0:00 Something really wild just happened. David Grutch, a well-known Pentagon whistleblower, told Joe Rogan the U.S. government has recovered something that they gave an unusual description for. They said recovered non-human bodies from a donation site, or sometimes used to be called crash sites, were very, very beautiful beings. And when Joe Rogan pushed him a little bit further on it, Grutch said that a general told his colleagues to think about Greek gods when they're thinking about what these things look like. Human looking. How human? Very. Like, like look like a human or look similar to a human? Very, very beautiful. Beautiful. And I said this. What color was the skin? Bluish white. Bluish white. And it wasn't super close.
0:52 No, no, no, no, no. Like someone who drowned? Like a pale sort of albino. And it's interesting. And I said this in another interview that's not out yet, but, and God willing, this is my last interview for a while, hopefully in a pre-disclosure environment, you know. And General McCaslin, when he was talking to DeLong, and this is public record, Tom's talked about it on, I think, your show and other interviews, where he always told Tom, think of the Greek gods. And. And, oh, true, you look it up. And, and now I kind of understand what he meant. This changes things a little bit, as we normally don't talk about the supposed gift sites. And I, I didn't expect that sentence to come from a former National Reconnaissance Office rep on the biggest podcast in the world. But it, it fits exactly what, what I've been saying for years, because we know that this whole thing is part of the grand deception.
1:47 For there shall be false Christs and false prophets. And there shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they should deceive even the elect. John saw the same kind of power at work in the last days. And he doth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven onto the earth in the sight of men. One of my favorite authors, Ellen White, whom I believe is inspired, wrote that as we near the close of time, there will be greater. And greater external parade of heathen power, that heathen deities would manifest their signal power, and exhibit themselves before the cities of the world, and that this delineation has already begun to be fulfilled. She said that they were heathen deities.
2:36 Grotch described beautiful, pale, human-looking beings, and the first word his own chain of command reaches for is Greek gods. This is not a coincidence. I'm, I'm willing to write off. This is a topic we've written two books on, by the way. We currently have those two booklets, Angels, Aliens, Angels, and Ancestors, or Non-Human Intelligence. Both those are in our bookstore, and you should check it out, store.orainemedia.tv. Grotch did not stop at beauty. He went further with ancient civilizations themselves. Yeah, I mean, I won't be surprised if some ancient civilizations were essentially cargo cults, you know, for these visitors. Right. I mean, that is most likely true in many cases, not all. A cargo cult means people who built religion around something that lands among them.
3:30 This matches the exact same shape Ellen White described. Heathen deities exhibiting themselves before the cities of the world, and people responding with worship. Grotch gets there from a secondhand government testimony, and I get there from a book written in the 1800s. He went even further on the Greek gods. Now, this is a Greek god point in a later conversation. Well, doesn't it make sense that the Greek gods did exist? Like, I mean, not that they did exist literally, but that, like, when they talked about the Greek gods, they talked about them in this manner, looking like that. And then you actually find a craft with these things that look like us. Which is like the conquistadors were treated like that in the 1500s, right? Now, Moses already told us what stood behind the gods of the nations. They sacrificed unto devils. Not God.
4:18 The gods whom they knew not. The new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not. And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. I've said it before, Egyptian gods are tied to fallen angels. Not just tied, I believe they presented themselves as these gods back then. Because Egypt was the most deceived part of the earth in the ancient world. And the same thing is true for the Greek gods. Parthenon. The book The Great Controversy ties ancient pagan deities to beings from outside this world appearing to the ancients. And now the exact same description, beautiful, human, god-like, is showing up in testimony about recovered craft. We haven't seen this craft yet, but I think this is going to be part of the big deception. It's going to be wild. Now, the same podcast had another guest tracing the same beings back to Genesis.
5:18 And he got the doctrine wrong. Timothy Alberino sat down with Joe Rogan and talked about the Watchers of the Book of Enoch. The Book of Enoch is not a book of the Bible. It's not a book I endorse you read. I think it has a lot of error in it. You could describe them as extraterrestrial entities. And they begin to lust after the daughters of men. And they desire to pro-generate families. They want to have families. Do you think that this is a simplification of genetic engineering? And that this depiction of it is just, you know, like the game of telephone. You're telling the old story through oral tradition for a long period of time as it gets relayed over time post-flood.
6:10 So you get this sort of distorted version of what the actual event was. I think it's possible there was genetic engineering involved. Because we certainly look different than everything else on the planet. Well, the Book of Enoch, at least the Hebrew account, both in the Book of Genesis. Because there's a verse, Genesis 6, that says, Now it came to pass that when men began to multiply in the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful. And they took wives of all whom they chose. There were giants, or Nephilim, in the earth in those days. And also afterward, when the sons of God came into the earth, the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men of old, the men of renown. That's the reference to the origin of giants and Nephilim in the Book of Genesis. And so in the Bible you have these angelic beings, the sons of God, who are lusting.
7:05 They're looking down at the daughters of men. They see that they're beautiful. The Book of Enoch is even more explicit. The Book of Enoch says that the angels of heaven, the watchers, lusted after the daughters of men. And they desired to pro-generate families. His claim is that the angels had children with human women and produced giants. That's not what Genesis 6 says. That the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were fair. And they took them wives of all which they choose. There were giants in the earth in those days. And also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bared children to them. And the same became mighty men, which were of old, men of renown. The book Patriarchs and Prophets explains on page 81 that the sons of God were the godly line of Seth. And the daughters of men were the ungodly line of Cain.
8:08 The Nephilim were human beings born of intermarriage between believing line and the unbelieving one. Not children of angels. Angels can take a human appearance, but they cannot create new life. I'm writing a book about this called Nephilim, mighty men of renown, from what the Bible says about this, not from the book of Enoch's speculation about this. Albarino also said something about demons that needs the same correction. These are the demons that, these are the, in the New Testament of the Bible, these are the demons that possess people. This is the origin of demons, by the way, in Hebrew cosmology. So there's this pervasive idea, again, especially in the ancient Near East, that dead giants can be communicated with and can possess living human beings, their spirits. Demons being the spirits of dead giants means the dead are conscious and able to roam around possessing people. Scripture says the opposite. The dead know not anything. Neither have they any more reward for the memory of them.
9:17 It's forgotten. Early Writings talks about this a little bit. It says that Ellen White was shown that the mysterious wrapping that was occurring back then was from the power of Satan and is sometimes directly from his agents. And that the dead know not anything. For the living to go to the dead for knowledge is to depart from the living God to converse with the dead who know nothing. They don't know anything. As Ellen White put it, I saw that the mysterious wrapping was the power of Satan. Some of it was directly from him and some indirectly, though through his agents. But it all proceeded from Satan. The dead know not anything. Demons are fallen angels. Whatever is beyond these beings is a fallen angel. Now Joe Rogan did not just talk about Grutch and Albarino. He sat down with a sitting vice president of the United States and asked him directly about this. If you look historically at, you know, things that are similar to the alien phenomenon.
10:18 Where, oh, some like strange being. It kind of looks like a human being but doesn't look like. But it's not human. And it shows a particular interest in human beings. And then it takes the human beings and, you know, like does weird experiments on them. I think my argument is that's either bullshit, right? You're either talking to a crazy person, which I don't like. I'm not saying just because I believe in the supernatural doesn't mean I believe in everything supernatural. But if we're talking about an extraterrestrial being that is human-like but not human. That contains effectively infinite powers and is torturing human beings. You can call it an alien if you want. But I think there's a lot of historical precedent to call that a demon. Demons will present as beings from far away. And the label people hang on them does not change what they are.
11:11 He goes even further in a separate interview on CBN News. Picking up and this one gets directly at prophecy. As we are marching towards the end of days, now I'm not saying we're in the end of days. I'm saying we're always moving closer to it. Is the veil going to thin between the spiritual world and our world? I don't know. Even him who is coming after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion. That they should believe a lie. Vance even reached for the passage himself. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie.
12:04 And all the ways wickedness deceives those who are perishing. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion. So they will believe the lie. And he read that verse on his own on Joe Rogan to explain UFOs. The book The Great Controversy confirms exactly this. That Satan will work with all power signs and lying wonders through false christs, false prophets. And that the fearful sights of supernatural character will be revealed in token of the power of miracle working demons. The same CBN segment went further into the pattern of these encounters. People who claim they've had UFO encounters. They've had abduction experiences. Those experiences often mirror what people will say they've experienced in a possession. In a demonic possession.
12:51 So when we talk about evil and whether or not aliens are really not aliens but they're something spiritual. You have to start looking at those experiences. And so we address that in the film. Also the areas in the country where occult activity is the highest. Those tend to be the places where UFOs are reportedly seen the most. And so why is that? Well if this is truly spiritual and not a physical alien. That exists. People are engaging in the occult at higher levels. Therefore they are experiencing what they think to be aliens. When in reality it is a demonic deception potentially. But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrificed. They sacrificed to devils. Not to God. And I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. A Joe Rogan clips channel brought a clip about a religious studies professor. To explain why Vance even reached for that word demon.
13:42 And she laid out the Catholic category for this. All right. So he's coming from the perspective of Catholic theology. So in Catholic theology there are generally if you're looking at anomalous phenomena. Which they do supernatural anomalous phenomena. A lot of weird stuff happens within the history of religions. Okay. So they have categories for understanding this stuff. And the categories include three different categories basically. Three different types of things. Supernatural things. Which they think can't be explained. And that they're like miracles. You know. Someone terminally ill prays for a saint's intercession. And then they become healed. And doctors say we can't figure that out. That's supernatural.
14:29 That's a miracle from God. Okay. That's one category. The other category is the natural. So things that are within nature. We can explain them. You know. Everybody knows what a natural kind of event is. Hurricanes and things like that. But there are events that cannot be explained. But don't merit supernatural. The supernatural category. And those events. By the way. There's a word for it. And they call it the preternatural. Okay. So I'm not Catholic. And I do not test anything by what Rome's theologians decided in the Middle Ages. I test it by the Bible. To the law and the testimony. If they speak not according to this word. It's because they don't lie in them. Her category for the preternatural is just a Catholic word for what the Bible already calls spiritualism. Where her framework is useful is in the pattern she described next.
15:19 Now that I've been doing this since 2012. A long time. It is beyond a doubt that there's a pattern match between people who have these experiences and people who have demonic experiences. She also describes something called the hitchhiker effect. And he said because it's really negative. The things that happen to people. They get something called the hitchhiker effect. And so the hitchhiker effect is when this scary stuff that's associated with like a haunted place follows you home. That hitchhiker effect is exactly what you would expect from fallen angels hanging out with a person after contact. Revelation tells us that the spirits are doing it right now. For they are spirits of devils working miracles which go forth unto the kings of the earth and to the whole world. To gather them. To the battle of the great day of God almighty. Not that that verse specifically is happening right now. But you can see that this is something that they want to do.
16:15 They want to go and hang out and talk to people a little bit. Roger Monod was told by a satanic priest years before any of this was public. That demon spirits would declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant galaxies. Coming to earth to explain an impending destruction of the planet unless something proper is done to avoid it. And a former intelligence officer describing beautiful godlike beings. A vice president saying call it an alien if you want. I call it a demon. A professor mapping the abduction into possession. None of the people are even in my church. None of them have even read what I believe is inspired writings. They are arriving at the same conclusion from completely different directions. Because the thing behind the phenomenon. Is real. And it's doing exactly what scripture said it would do.
17:09 White wrote that the heavenly universe is waiting for a consecrated channel through which God can communicate with his people. And through them with the world that God will reveal his spirit in a visible and glorious manner. Especially in this time. When Satan is working in a masterfully manner to deceive the souls of both ministers and people. A masterly deception. Does not announce itself as evil. It comes beautiful. It comes human looking. It comes with a government official telling you to think about Greek gods. And if I'm right about this. Then the agreement that White said these beings will make with the people of earth is not far off. And it will look like we figured it out. It will look like beauty, help, and offer too advance to refuse. Let me know in the comments what you think about all this. And if you wish to wear your belief and understanding of all this stuff. Check out our new merch store with over 120 products, t-shirts, stickers, all kinds of stuff.
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