🚨What The Catholic Church Isn't Telling You About UFOs

0:05 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.

1:06 The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. Saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately?

2:00 And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic, and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God, always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky. And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere.

2:56 And then they, on the morning, they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the U.S. Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively.

3:51 I, uh, I started to have these follow-on experiences. But the phenomenon, that was like the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night. Because my job was classified and I had access to classified, um, I was kind of aware this was not a one-off event for the Navy. This, uh, these things happen frequently, all the time. They happen all the time. Barbara Bethalik. Whitley Strickland. Dr. Eber. Both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative. In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I was involved with occult practices.

5:05 I was involved with occult practices. For almost a full decade, and, um, after my conversion, if you will, I felt it, I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus' name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a... To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding of... Ghosts, any, anything of that kind of story. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy.

6:07 So we need to know what the truth is. What to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Right. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye-opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system.

6:58 It's different than a religion, but it's religious-like. What they're seeing in the sky today is what they believe to be like advanced technology. Whereas a thousand years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel or maybe that's a demon. Today. They look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people. Almost like a religious conversion experience. It changes their worldview. It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally, completely changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. My name is Tom DeLonge.

7:54 Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term, the occult, and that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men in flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions.

8:47 And the UFOs. The UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man, period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. We've passed the 11 minute mark. Now T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome. And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning.

9:41 But there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rewrit. There is a reading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop. I've been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy.

10:41 Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. And the funniest one of all was against what he called alien. And over and over again. Over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card and remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it, he said, is a lie. Are there other religions, I'm curious, David, that you know of and all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea? Yeah, I would say there are. You know, Hindus. You know, Muslims. And Buddhists, you know, Tibetans or whatnot, the idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that. I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs, particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition.

11:42 They have UFOs. UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, too. Is that UFO sightings have been going on. Yeah. They've been going on for thousands of years. Mormons as well believe in extraterrestrial life. And I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets. You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God. You are saying to the human race for the first time. An official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S. government is saying publicly, we are not alone.

12:37 We're definitely not alone. Absolutely the data points empirically that we're not alone. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found after interviewing myself and the subjects and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant of who they were. They found my complaint urgent and credible. They found my complaint urgent and credible. They found my complaint urgent and credible. For the intelligence committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligence extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non human intelligence? While I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations. I was briefed by a few individuals. a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that.

13:33 So let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we would like to say in our language. Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, etc., do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific. Cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.

14:31 And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, I think they are very real, but I think what is your idea of reality? That's the question. You see that the DOD and NASA, even, they're all hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue. And that's not where the truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, philosophy, religious studies. That's where you're going to find the truth of this. But I don't think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people called angels. I think they're messengers. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. I'm dying to know what they've got to say.

15:30 We're now passing the four minute, 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high-powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says, we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And the priest told us... Could I have a little bit more of your time? I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says, the grand plan for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. And he said, it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grand plan, he says, is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff. Because he says, spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet.

16:27 Unless something seriously... Proper is done to avoid it. It was a big thing that was coming up. One of the major deceptions of the last days. I always hit that button every time I try to do this on this thing. What I'm trying to do is hit the ducting so that it pushed down the music in the background so I can talk. Ladies and gentlemen, we have an amazing show tonight. It's going to be very interesting. We've got some special guests on the show as well as we're going to go over some very interesting clips. Talking a lot about... Spiritualism. T minus three minutes and counting. T minus three. We are go with all elements of the mission at this time.

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20:13 My name is Bradley. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. Because there is a lot going on right now. And although the news has been particularly silent for the last couple of weeks. That's not going to last long. I guarantee it and there is guarantee that something is coming. Something big is coming. And recently we've had a well-known Jesuit who is leading this endeavor in the news lately. Not just in the news but also in the podcast. He's doing a lot more podcasts. In fact, he's going to be on this one. Maybe. Well, at least he has my number. And we're going to ask him some very interesting questions. That I'm very curious about.

21:00 But before we do, we're going to talk about him. We're going to look and see some of the things that he's been saying on other podcasts. To get an idea of what questions we can ask him. This is what I want you guys to do. If you're interested in asking the following guy questions that we're going to be looking at on this broadcast. I want you to write them in the comments. Because I know everyone's. If I crowd source this, we can kind of figure out what in the world is going on. If we ask the right questions. If we ask the right questions. And so, if you would do that for me, I'd really, really appreciate it. As we watch this program, be thinking in your head. Go, what would I ask the lead lawyer Jesuit who's leading the endeavor for disclosure? That's what I want you to ask yourself as we're going through this. And we're going to dig right into what he's been saying about this right now. But before we do, I'm going to get our guest tonight.

21:50 We have two guests tonight. Stephanie, first, thank you so much for joining us. Stephanie has Stephanie Griff's Ministries. Stephanie Griffith. I'm sorry. I'm just mutilating that. Stephanie Griffin. Yes, yes. Good to be here, Brad. Thank you so much. Very good. Always a pleasure. And you, your background. I'm going to get to you, Matthew, in just a second. But I want to go over Stephanie's ministry. You specialize, specialize. It's like you're a doctor. You're a doctor. And you're like sideways, by the way. Should I move you? No, no. Other way. There you go. There's a delay. I can't. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So you know more about meditation, a lot of New Age stuff.

22:38 I'm not too familiar with it. So I wanted to bring you in because you know more about it. Can you tell me more about what your background was and why you started your ministry? Sure. Well, unfortunately, I know a lot more about meditation than I should. But I was a Christian. But I was a Christian who fell into the spiritual practices of Loyola, the same practices that our friend this evening will be talking about. And so for nine years, I was deep into contemplative prayer, et cetera, et cetera. And until God showed me that this was not his way. These are not his practices. So he brought me out, had me write my testimony in the form of a book. And now I go out and I try to share the truth of these things. As well as, really, the Emerging Church, which is just the next step in spiritual formation.

23:30 It prepares you to receive their theology. And so, which is really just a collision of Christianity with the New Age. And so that's how I stumbled into the New Age understandings. And so I am learning more about the New Age than I ever had wanted to. Understood. Understood. And Matthew. I think. I think we've seen you here before. But I want to remind everybody that you are a former Catholic. We're going to be talking a lot about Catholicism. And I want to ask everyone to say a prayer of thanksgiving. Because Matthew is having some severe internet troubles tonight due to a freeze. And due to us praying about it, I am certain of it, he's able to join us via video. And I want to praise God for that. So Matthew, how are you doing?

24:20 Oh, I'm doing well. Yeah, I'm glad that the internet seems to be pretty stable right now. And prayers that it remains stable. I was a practicing Catholic, yes. And I eventually had to leave Catholicism because of spiritual convictions. I ended up going through the Bible and comparing it to some of the teachings of the Catholic Church. And when it wasn't lining up, it started to... It was more than just a coincidental type of a thing. It seemed to be almost intentional that certain things were being ignored and practices were being put into place. And the Catholic Church is highly influential. I think it's funny that Stephanie mentions that she was practicing some of Loyola's meditations. And she wasn't a Catholic. When I was in the Catholic Church, certainly that was a form of prayer that was encouraged and endorsed by the Church.

25:18 I used to do adoration, for example. And adoration would be when you would go and sit in front of the Eucharist. And it was kind of like the real presence of Christ is there. Because the bread can be made into the flesh of Christ. So as you're sitting there, the idea was that you hold a vigil, essentially. It can be up to like 48-hour vigils or even longer. And somebody always has to be there at all times. So I'd go in the dead of night and sit there. And sit there with this. And you could. You could go into almost like a trance-like state of prayer. And even though you're only there for an hour, it feels like it's five minutes because suddenly you snap out of it. And you're just on to the next person to come in and do that.

26:04 So, yeah, certainly. I have a little experience with it. But fortunately, I don't think I ever went so deep into it. The way that they encourage it is very imaginative. And you're eventually supposed to put yourself there in situations. You're supposed to be like Jesus is carrying his cross and now you're in the crowd. You're not just thinking about this event. You are in the crowd. And you can hear what are people saying. What are you wearing? What are some of the smells that are happening right now? What does the clouds look like obscuring the sun? These are the steps you take. And suddenly it seems like something where it's, oh, you're just focusing on the word. But it moves you away from actually being in the crowd. You're totally being invested in the scriptures. And suddenly you're creating this place in your mind that you're going to.

26:52 And that becomes the source of your spiritual wisdom and knowledge. And, yeah, eventually you're encouraged to interact with beings too. Which is probably the scariest aspect of that is that you could talk to an apostle in this imaginative state. And, yeah, I'm sure we can all kind of see where that would lead to. What kind of door is here potentially opening? Yeah. Yeah. This is all the stuff we were going over. That's actually one of the questions I had tonight. We're going to cover contemplative prayer and meditation specifically. They mention that in this program. Actually, in someone else's program we will be looking at clips of. And I want to jump right into that because it's very fascinating. And I don't want to duplicate anything that we're going to already do. But I'm looking at the crowd in the chat tonight.

27:43 Looks like we have a good crowd. We have 148 watching right now. And let's see. Andrew asks, is that Giorgio on your T-shirt, Brad? So let me explain that real quick. This is Giorgio. It says, yeah, this says, I'm not saying that they're demons, but they're demons. So this is from the official Strange Normal store. You can go buy this T-shirt and wear it yourself. But I don't make, just putting it out there, T-shirts don't make a lot of money. And so this is just kind of something funny to wear to kind of spread the news that this is a serious thing. We need to get the word out and understand what is actually going on here. There will be more. I'm trying to think of other ideas that are a little more subtle. But, yeah, I am wearing Giorgio on my T-shirt tonight. So let's get into it.

28:39 We're going to cover some very interesting things. But before we get into the meat of it, I really want to introduce who this is that we're going to be talking about. And one of the guys that did the podcast, he did a great, great job of talking about his intro and who this guy is and what his background is. So I'm going to show you that right now. Daniel Sheehan is a Harvard-trained attorney with close to 50 years of experience. He served as legal counsel to renowned Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John Mack. After Harvard forced Dr. Mack to defend his controversial research in 2010, Daniel represented him and secured him his freedom to continue that work. Daniel has most recently served as general counsel to UFO whistleblower Luis Elizondo, is the founder of the New Paradigm Institute, and is currently pushing hard for UFO disclosure. He is a Harvard College, Harvard Law School, and Harvard Divinity School-trained constitutional litigation attorney. For close to five decades, Daniel has worked as a federal civil rights attorney, author, public speaker, and college and law school educator.

29:38 He has been at the center of the conversation. He has been at the center of many of the most important legal cases and social movements of our generation. In 1977, Daniel served as a special counsel to the U.S. Library of Congress investigation into the existence of E.T. that had been expressly requested by then-President Jimmy Carter. Following that work, he was invited to present a three-hour closed-door seminar on the theological implications of contact with E.T. intelligence, to top 50 scientists assigned to E.T. intelligence. What are the three scientists assigned to the SETI project, which is the search for E.T., at NASA's Jekyll-Polshan Laboratory? So obviously he's a very well-educated man. He's got a lot of credentials behind him, and you'll find out later that he's talking to a lot of high-level people, not only in the United States, in Washington, D.C. itself, but also in the Vatican.

30:33 And you'll find that out in just a second. But what's fascinating to me is the reason why we're covering this guy, is because he's leading. He's on the forefront, the front lines of leading the religious movement and helping religious understand the soon-coming disclosure of this phenomenon that's happening right in Congress right now. And he is gathering in, he's going to talk about this a little bit, he's gathering in all the different faiths, denominations, traditions, all the churches together in this ecumenical movement to understand this better according to what they believe. And we're going to get into, and this is why we're talking about this on this program, is because we need to understand what they believe before it comes time to ingest it from the news, from the media, from everything else that's happening.

31:32 We need to know this ahead of time. So we as leaders, as teachers, as laymen, we need to know this ahead of time. We need to know this ahead of time. And I'm hoping that we as laymen can talk more and understand and tell people about what's happening. So if you guys have any comments before I get right into the meat of it, go ahead and, I forgot how we do this. Let's go with you, Stephanie. If you have any comments, let's go right down the line here. Sure. I have a couple. One being he can talk about these different religions and beliefs because as a Catholic, he has many, many religions. uh many creeds whereas the fundamentalist which we'll get into later has only one creed and that's the bible sola scriptura so he can move forward in mixing all of this and uh and do it guilt-free and then i would also have a quote go ahead uh matthew if you have something i'm looking for my thing here yeah i would say that he's doing more than just spiritual advising because as you saw there in his little introduction lou alessandro is someone that he's providing counsel to and lou alessandro is not a spiritualist type of person in the ufo phenomenon he uh he used to work directly with the government and seems to have a more secular approach to it yet here he is also providing counsel to him and the reason behind that is if you go into any major committees any groups that are really having an impact whether it be in the ufo realm or the climate change pushers, what have you, government, if you walk into one of those committees and throw a rock, I can guarantee that you will hit a Jesuit because they are either openly invited in to these committees and councils because they bring with them the resources of the Roman Catholic Church. We heard Diane Pasolka last week talking about how she was able to gain access to archives and all this information. And that was a Catholic resource that she was able to tap into. And they're either invited in or they will infiltrate. They'll just go in and be a part of it. And all of a sudden you figure out, wait, this person is associated with Opus Dei or they're associated with the Knights of Columbus. Oh, they're just straight out of Jesuit and they're just wearing plain clothes. This is weird. I didn't know that. Well, they are all over the place. It's part of, like Stephanie was saying, one over the other.

34:01 One of the creeds of the Jesuit order is to have this level of influence on both the secular world and the spiritual world. Fascinating. And then Alice A. Bailey, just to tag on to that a little bit, says in Ray Young and says, he quotes her in Mother of the New Age movement and her plan to revitalize Christianity on page eight. The unity of spiritual thought would not be a single one world denomination, but would have a unity in the world. In diversity, multicultural interfaith, ecumenical agenda. Now, Wayne Teasdale, a monk, coined the phrase interspirituality. And so this is where we're going. It's syncretism, interspirituality, however you want to say it. This collision. First, Christianity collided with the New Age. And now this emergent church ideology is moving into all of the other realms together. So there's a second collision. Very. Very interesting. So before we get into our super chat here, we have the light going off. I want to thank you, Ming Gang, for the super chat. We'll talk in just a minute about that.

35:11 What did you say, Stephanie? What did you call it at the beginning of your quote? It was something, the beginning of this movement, you said, is absolutely... Interspirituality. Interspirituality. Interspirituality. Wayne Teasdale, a monk, a Catholic monk, coined that term. So this was the direction they are going. And really, we're kind of there when you're looking at the political happenings around us, as well as now this collision. I think the whole alien topic is kind of bringing everything forward in its train. Wow. Fascinating. And there's nothing new under the sun, because you may have coined the term interspiritualism. But if you... If you look back, what had always happened is the Roman Catholic Church would come in and assimilate pagan cultures. And yeah, that's fine. You just did whatever. You've got your pagan practices. That's great. It's bringing you closer to God, whatever. As long as you're acknowledging that we are the spiritual authority in your life, go for it. And that's why you have things like the Pope going to the Amazon and praying to Pachamama and receiving the statue of this goddess, which did cause quite a stir. There are many, many Catholics who consider themselves conservative Catholics and reject anything like that out of hand, because there is this basic understanding I think you should have if you're going to claim Christianity, not to intermingle your faith with pagan beliefs or that of the world. But the sad truth is that it's been doing that all along. It's been happening for a very long time. And that's why, even unfortunately, people who consider the Rosary to be this very Christian thing, that's bringing them closer to God.

37:00 It's a spiritual weapon, but people describe it as that. It's a weapon. It's like your sword that you're going to wield against dark powers. Well, they're just prayer beads and they come from mystic religions. That's the sad reality of what it is. It's not mentioned in the Bible. You're not instructed to use prayer beads in the Bible. It's not found anywhere. So unfortunately, no biblical justification for that. No. No. Not just that practice, but many others. There are so many questions I want to... Go ahead, Stephanie. I mean, just that spreads out into so many questions I want to ask. But go ahead, Stephanie, and I want to bring it back to the clips because we got a few of them tonight. Oh, sure. I was just going to say real quick, Richard Rohr, if you're familiar with him, he is a priest in the Catholic Church. And he also is a lot of other things, but he believes in the... The New Age Christ, really, if you listen to his teachings. But he specifically addresses beads. And he says that, really, Protestantism is the only belief system that doesn't utilize beads. And it's something that we need to learn to utilize.

38:16 Really? Mm-hmm. Oh. In his spiritual formation, it was offered to me. But it's funny how you'll take some things and think it's okay, and then not others. So that was something for me. I think it was too Catholic and too maybe Buddhist. And I'm like, no, I can't. No, thank you. But anyway, Satan always has a ditch. Interesting. I'm going to ask you about that because I think further down in the clips... Oh, let's just get into it. Because I'm thinking of all kinds of stuff that's happening right now and spurring off that. But we haven't played the clip yet. So first, before we... Do we want the super chat, right? Yeah. Your light went off. I just don't want that person to be ignored. Thank you. Yeah. Me, gang, I think is the name. It doesn't look like there is a comment associated with it, but it is their first super chat. I want to thank you so much for your super chat. And that's how we continue this program.

39:10 And that's how we... This light goes off right here. So if you see that light, I'm going to stop, and I'm going to acknowledge it, and I'll read your comment. Let's get into what the actual meat of the program is. So he's at Harvard. He's going to talk a little bit about his younger years, listening to a lecture at Harvard. And listening to what he believes his professors at Harvard University, prestigious Ivy League Harvard, is teaching their pupils. Listen to what he says. This was fascinating. So I had asked you, it's actually pretty cool what you said to me. So tell me if I'm off here too. I typed it out as fast as I could when you did say it to me. Because when I asked you the first time, I'm like, why? You gave me a shorter answer. I mean, this is good. The background that you gave here is great for the listener. And you said you became aware of the... So you were 30. You became aware of the fact that there was an effort underway to elucidate to people that there is something extraordinary going on. Yes. What is that extraordinary thing that you thought at 30 was going on?

40:18 Well, there were a few things. But the most important thing, and the reason that I was at the Jesuit headquarters, is that it's our human family. We're all human. Right. And it was our family. Right. And so when I went to the lecture, I had actually gone to a lecture by Professor Crain Brinton at Harvard. It was his final lecture after almost 40 years of teaching intellectual history at Harvard University. And I went to his lectures in the spring, May of 1968, when I was over at the Harvard Law School. And he was teaching back at the college across the street. I went back over there for the lecture. He was asked to address in his final lecture what he thought the most important single intellectual insight was that our human family had reached, that he had encountered in his over 50 years of studying in the field. And he announced, he said, this is easy, he said in his final lecture, he said, I believe that all the greatest minds in our human family have come to the conclusion that our human family is right on the brink of taking its next step in biological evolution, and that this next step in biological evolution was going to be giving rise to the full manifestation of another faculty, like seeing or hearing.

41:41 He said that by means of this other faculty, each human being was going to be able to directly experientially encounter the unitive phenomena. That bonds every single ultimately irreducible integer of matter in the entire physical universe into one unified, harmonious whole. And by means of this experience, which is direct and unreflected on, like seeing or hearing, each individual is going to be able to discern what conduct on the part of human beings, either individual or collective, is either harmonious with or disharmonious to the natural order of the universe. And I said, now that is something. That's profound stuff. And then he just closed his notes and walked away. And that was the... But the mission of the Jesuits is to... I'm going to pause it right there for a second. So what he's saying is that...

42:39 Oops, I messed Matthew here. I'm used to pushing the other button with just two of us. So what he's saying here is that they're expecting, and according to their evolutionary belief system, which I find that fascinating. Because I thought we were talking about a Christian system of... I thought he believed in Christianity. And I'm fascinated to know that it seems Catholicism has accepted some form of evolutionary theory where you have many different eclectic beliefs and it all comes into the same pot. And then you just kind of stir it and select which one you want. And so what he's saying is there's going to be a time... A near future that his professor was teaching that we're going to suddenly and realize that we have some kind of sixth sense that comes upon us, opening, dare I say, the third eye that we see.

43:37 And I think he gets into this a little bit further, where we are seemingly able to tell, not us as... I don't believe I'm never going to see that, I hope. But people are going to be able to feel they have... Some kind of sense that they can tell people are good or not. Sinners... Let's just use Christian terms for a second. Sinners, or are they righteous? Are they... Maybe it goes a little further than that. I don't know. What did you get out of that? Let me start with you, Stephanie. What I'm hearing is he's preparing the way to open the door for transcendental meditation and that direct experience of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... Of the... He's like, you're going to develop another sense, something like vision or hearing. And so, to me, that's going to be mental telepathy. We're going to see where he goes with it, but I think that's where he's going. And if you look at Catholicism, we have Carl Rayner, who was basically the architect for Vatican II, stating the Christian of the future will be a mystic or will not exist at all.

44:52 So you have... What you will become if you're going to be a Christian, which you will be a mystic, meditating, contemplative prayer, which is the same thing as meditation. So you're going to have this direct experience or you will not exist at all. And that, to me, is threatening, especially when you pair it with the quote I will share later from Alice A. Bailey. And then you have emergent leaders. And I'm sorry, I'm going to bring in a couple of quotes for emergent leaders along the way because, again, they are... There's a collision with the New Age. So they are espousing New Age teachings and an ideology, occult kinds of things. Brian McLaren says, On experience, the Bible is not considered an accurate, absolute, authoritative, or authoritarian source, but a book to be experienced. This goes back to what Matthew was saying at the beginning of the show, how they offer these experiences where you imagine yourself...

45:53 You imagine yourself in this place. And when you do this in the way that they suggest, you are, as he says, you're removing the Bible and you're bringing in an experience that will rewrite the Bible. So he says, Experience, dialogue, feelings, and conversations are equated with Scripture. So they're equal. But then they override. He says, While certitude, authority, and doctrine are to be eschewed. And who is that? Can you tell us? Brian McLaren? Yeah. Yes. He's an emergent leader. So he's written like over 60 books. I mean, he's like a well-known in the Christian, you know, authorship and speaking circuit. Fascinating. Matthew, what do you think? I think Stephanie brought up a really great point there because I've often heard, and we hear it, not just from spiritual people.

46:52 Again, this is a secular... It's a secular idea as well. The evolution of humanity, that there is another step for us. And I've often said that they'll say, we are evolving towards godhood. We are becoming gods. But we're very far from godhood. I think anybody could tell you that, whether or not they even believe that we are evolving into godhood. So there could still be several steps that need to be taken before you achieve godhood. And when Stephanie said telepathy, it's funny because, like I said, I always knew the concept, but I never thought, in what form will it come in? And that makes a lot of sense because what does the theory of evolution propose? That we were once these very primitive beings that we needed to evolve in order to survive. That's the whole idea. There's a survival of the fittest type of mentality. So certain parts of the human race had these attributes and then they bred for those attributes.

47:50 And as a whole, we experienced evolution. Well, what could come on the scene that would necessitate us to evolve towards telepathy? What if there were beings that we needed to communicate with telepathically? So we evolved. We took an evolutionary step. We unlocked it. Some of us already had that trait. Some of us already had that gene active because we see people. Remote viewing is taken very seriously by the government. And they've spent a ton of money on remote viewing, psychics, all that type of stuff. So they know that there is this type of thing that exists. What if that's what's brought out? And it says, yes, the next step in evolution will be for you to be able to communicate with your minds and open your mind and you can join this galactic family.

48:43 He's talking a lot about the human family, the human family, the human family. Well, what about the greater family? What about our extended relatives from beyond the stars? We need to communicate. We need to communicate with them via telepathy. So we simply need to evolve towards a more cooperative type of being with them. That's really that's crazy, Stephanie. Yeah, I just hadn't thought of what form it could take. But that that makes a lot of sense. I wonder. That's where you talk more. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. That's where they're that's where they're leading us, I believe. And then just to be very clear, he also says, Brian McLaren, that. Personal experiences, traditions, historical leaders. The Bible is not the answer book. So we have to there are no absolute truths, but we have to depend on personal experience, traditions and historical leaders. So this is where we are.

49:39 They're preparing the mind to move into an experiential truth. Yeah. Experiential truth, not based necessarily on any particular word. But. On personal experience. That makes total sense. And so speaking of you mentioned earlier, Stephanie, speaking of the the meditation trait and how does that come together with all this? I want to watch this one clip and and then we'll talk about that. Watch what he says here. This this blew my mind. But the mission of the Jesuits is to lead a life where you there is reflection. There we go. Let's try it again. You also said that you practice meditation. I don't know if it's because of because of that experience with the Jesuits or not.

50:29 But you said you also you also get downloads as well. Well, one has to be careful about this. It's what it really is. It's more of a dissolving away of the strictures that get imposed upon one's unconditioned consciousness. It's what actually occurs is that in in meditation, in the breathing exercises and the meditation of placing oneself in certain what I've what I've done, what I do is I actually go through a process. It's just a 30 minute process of sitting in complete silence and breathing and and chanting. I have a particular mantra that that. I was given by actually Babamukta Nanda.

51:27 It's just the classic Om Namah Shabaya. It's nothing great insight. But the bottom line is that when you chant and breathe this, you you can get into a state where you you start to transcend the kind of sensory experiences of your body and the time and place that you are. And you can you can place yourself in a situation. That is consistent with some of the primordial chakra energy systems in your body, to be specific, chakra in that that's what you do in your quick yes or no. Matthew is chakras. Is that a prevalent word in Catholicism? Yes or no? Okay, we'll talk about that in a second. Talk about that. So you're through this process in your meditation where you you're basically assisting in the falling away of.

52:21 Additional restrictions that are imposed upon your consciousness by your place and situation. And you run through these archetypal situations in your consciousness until you transcend them. And you're in a state of ultimate unity initially with the entire cosmos. And then ultimately out and out and away from the physical perimeters of the physical universe. into the field of complete, infinite, and eternal, undifferentiated consciousness that abides out beyond the sum total of mass and energy that make up the universe. And it's in that state of consciousness that one can then, it's not like a download, it's an unload. You're unloading yourself from all those conditioned restrictions that are imposed upon your physical body and mind.

53:23 I like the word unload, because in the unloading, you are opening yourself up to the expansiveness of what you didn't think. Think, and I use that word underlined in bold, think existed. Right. So you're not thinking, which is... Opposite to what you do for a living, which is thinking and thinking things through. Right. Thinking. So opposite of what you're actually doing, you're thinking. So I want to think about that. Let's think about this thinking that's not actually thinking when you're meditating. But while we're thinking about that, I'm going to go play one more clip about meditation that he alluded to that I missed as I was trying to get us back to the right clip. So watch this real quick, and then let's talk about it.

54:16 Here we go. But the mission of the Jesuits is to lead a life where there is reflection, but not just reflection, to a point where you can receive, you use the word downloads. Yeah. Can you elaborate a little bit on that? Yeah. There's an experience that human beings are capable of accessing. Yeah. Through certain meditative practices and dietary habits and habits of abstention from certain conduct that is super stimulating to your system. And that, you know, in the Eastern traditions of Buddhism and Hinduism, it's primarily sitting meditation. In the history of the Catholic Christian Church, it's meditation similar in the monks, et cetera.

55:13 In the Trappists, for example, and some of the Franciscans. But the Jesuits have a thing they call the Ignatian spiritual exercises, in which, in addition to sitting in meditation and what they call prayer, but it's in meditation, you place yourself in certain visual and sensory situations in your mind and absorb the experience. This is what you were talking about. And you sit open to a download from the universe of this unit of experience that Crane Britton talked about. And that in that context, you can experience how it is that a human being who is conducting himself or herself in a state of transcendent consciousness, in which one... ...rises above and transcends one's initial genetic predisposition of the physical body that you're in, the astrological predilections that have been imposed upon you by your genetic or of your biological evolution under a certain matrix of astrological influences, also the cultural influences that you've been subjected to during your upraising, and you can get into a transcendent state of consciousness, where you transcend those instinctive, physiologically stimulated responses to the situation.

56:55 Whereas if you're in this transcendent state, you can actually get a completely objective perspective on what it is that ought to be done, what kind of action you should engage in, if any, in that situation. And it's called the... Ignatian Spiritual Exercise. And that's what we practiced in the Jesuit order. I was a candidate for the Jesuit priesthood for ten years. Okay, I'm going to pause right there. So he was a candidate for Jesuit priesthood. He was going to become a Jesuit priest. And he decided not to. And I think he gets into that further, but it's really not important for what we're talking about right now. But I want to go to Matthew first, because you were talking about this earlier, and then I'm going to go to you, Steph. Ignatius Spiritual Exercises that put you into a non-thinking sleep.

57:49 This is what you were talking about earlier. I had no idea that this integrated with the chakras, whatever that is. From a Protestant Christian view, this is absurdly weird. And I don't know how this fits into Christianity whatsoever. So can you kind of explain what's going on here? The way that it fits into Christianity is pretty simple. If you're a Christian, you just don't engage with these practices. And you identify them as avenues that the enemy wants to use to get in and have an effect on your life. The whole idea of the chakras, by the way, that comes from a Hindu and Buddhist background. It's Eastern mysticism, is what he's talking about. But it does. It incorporates well with the Ignatian mysticism. And, there's another part of the reason for this.

58:42 Because we're in the medium of the Esoteric Meditations. And, for those of you who don't know, Ignatius of Loyola was the founder of the Jesuit Order. The Jesuits were brought about for one specific purpose, and that was counter-reformation. There were many people who were coming, and they had valid concerns and criticisms about the Roman Catholic Church. And they needed to be put down. They needed to be put down, militarily. into the world and dispel as much of the accusations as they possibly could. So incorporating this in is just another way to weaken one's mind and constitution against the devil and allow them to come in and give you that experiential religion. The meditations of Loyola, we don't have to call them that necessarily because, like I said, it's an Eastern mysticism practice. This is what shamans practice out in the jungles. This is what a druid would practice. It's found in all of the religions all over the world. It's just putting yourself into that meditative state. As he said, unloading, you're becoming a receptor for anything that comes in and you're disregarding thought. Well, God doesn't want to have that type of an interaction with you. It's just so silly to me that if you're a druid, you're not going to be able to have that type of interaction with God.

1:00:06 It's just so silly to me that if you're a druid, you're not going to be able to have that type of interaction with God. If you acknowledge that there's this God, he is all powerful. He is more intelligent than any other being because he created intelligent beings. It's like the intelligence of God. It's like the power of God, the creative power of God, the intelligence of God. These are things that we can acknowledge, but they're so beyond our reach. Why would we think that a God who is that much smarter than you wants to be communicated with through a series of chants that he wants you to sit there and empty yourself completely and just be a blank? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Slate to be acted upon. God created you for relationship. You know how hard it would be to have a relationship with one of your fellow human beings if you acted that way towards them? It would be impossible. You couldn't do anything. You couldn't work with anybody. You couldn't have any meaningful, intimate relationships with anybody. I'm a father. Imagine if my kids were having problems and I just sat there in a meditative state and I just expect us to sit there and empty ourselves. We're not going to get it. We're not going to get it. We're not going to do anything. So your relationship with God can improve by you not thinking thoughts. You need to be an active participant in your relationship with God. And fortunately, that's why we can go off of the Bible because there are many outlines and examples of those who walked with God and had these really positive and good relationships with God. And we find that those people are not perfect. We often find that those people stumble and they have mistakes and they have these periods in their life where they're having a hard time. And we find that those people are having these issues. But rather than just going blank and sitting there with their legs crossed, they poured their hearts out to God. They came to this loving creator and interacted with him and had meaningful prayer and repentance as well. That is how you would foster a relationship with the God of the Bible. You wouldn't put any of these things that he's talking about into practice. Before we go to you, Stephanie, I want to acknowledge StormReady202. Thank you for the super chat or super sticker. I think super sticker probably because my light didn't catch it. So thank you for that. She says, they say, keep it up. So thank you. Thank you for that. I think that's interesting because especially what you said at the beginning, I think they would say, I'm going to play devil's advocate just for a second. Not that I think this way, but I think they would say that the interesting part of the Bible is that it's not just about the Bible. It's about the whole thing is that we would receive downloads. So that's how you would continue. But I like what you said at the beginning there where you would say that you're opening yourself up to just any download. I mean, where is it in some hard writing anywhere? I mean, I want to see where someone's actually, you can point to it and say, hey, look, no, I'm only going to get this from God. I don't know of anything that says that. And maybe, Stephanie, you can bring this up.

1:03:06 If you know of a quote or something that says you received these, maybe this is a new term? Because I don't think, you know, back in the olden days, they called it a download. Is this a new thing since computers came along? Now we understand it better. Tell me what you think about this whole thing. It's just another way of saying channeling, right? It's a portal. When we meditate, when we practice contemplative prayer, transcendental meditation, any of these things, it's an open portal. So it's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. So it's interesting to tag on to what Matthew said. He said, he made a good point. God made us to think, right? To critically think. He gave us brains. And the Bible says, come, let us reason. Now, Jesuit tactics, they don't want us thinking. They're non-dual. They don't want us thinking, but they will use thinking and reasoning against us, right? So this is a tactic they use. I just, there's so many ways to go with this, but bear with me. So when it comes to this collision, as you don't understand why chakras are mentioned with Catholicism, Catholicism is an occult religion. And it encompasses Freemasonry. It encompasses all of these Knights of Templar, Knights of Columbus, yada, yada, yada. And when you see the symbols, you see these symbols in the Bible. So it's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal.

1:04:36 It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. It's a portal. In all of these practices in some form. So when you look at, okay, he has like, I think an Indian guru he named off that he follows or gave him some sort of mantra. All right. So brought to mind Swami Vivekananda. And this will help explain a little bit. He says, she, meaning the church, also has a responsibility in our age to be a bridge for reconciling the human family. The spirit is her through the signs of the times to open to Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Sikhs, Jains, Taoists, Confucians, and indigenous peoples, which we saw in the World Economic Forum. The Christian is not to become a Hindu or a Buddhist, nor a Hindu a Buddhist to become a Christian, but each must assimilate the spirit of the others. So this is part of that collision. Wow. So, and that's just, did you have something to say? I've got a few things I want to bring in that's gonna help really clarify this. Very briefly, for that quote, it's funny we have a Joanne in the discord posted earlier in our fellowship channel was talking about how she woke up early and was just doing a prayer and it was jumbled and she said just trust the Holy Spirit to help, you know, get her into communication. And then she made a really profound point where she said it's funny it's labeled as the Holy Spirit because it gives us a definition of what kind of spirit this is. It's not just any old spirit, it's the Holy Spirit. And what you're saying the Swami said is the Spirit is preparing all of these different people. No, yeah, no kidding. I totally agree with you. Yeah, the Spirit is preparing people. It's just not the Holy Spirit. That's the thing. We're dealing in a spiritual realm here.

1:06:30 It's just not, you can't equate that to the Spirit of God. But go ahead, Stephanie. You can't. It's a good point, Matthew. It's compare and contrast, right? And that's two different spirits. So we're back to, basically, they did a study on Zen meditators and Buddhist studies, huge, with contemplative lifestyles. They consistently produced mid to high wave, high frequency alpha waves. All right, right now you and I are in beta. We're thinking, we're processing, alpha, you know, this is a hypnotic state. It's, you're susceptible to whatever downloads are coming in. So Richard Foster says that, and he's, he brought, he was pivotal in bringing in contemplative prayer to Protestantism. So he says, meditation is a good way to obtain a consistent alpha brainwave pattern. Then we move into Laurie Cabot in The Power of the Witch. She's a witch, and she says, alpha is a springboard for all psychic and magical workings. It's the heart of witchcraft. All right, so why are we teaching Christians to practice this? I'll tell you in a minute. But this says that, Laurie says, the science of witchcraft is based upon our ability to enter altered states of consciousness in alpha. In alpha, the mind opens to non-ordinary forms of communication. So here we go. And then the status of contemplation is reached when we make contact with the soul. Now, most people don't know that. They don't know that the soul is like a third party, and it exists inside of our body, rather than the breath and the body become a living being, right? So when you separate this out, we open ourselves to spiritualism. And so the stage of contemplation is reached when we make contact with the soul. Through the soul, we have access to all knowledge, past, present, and future. And this is Alice A. Bailey. We also have the ability to communicate telepathically with souls of others. And so these souls, we know, are demonic. They're fallen angels. They're demons. So we have these demons now downloading thoughts into those who are practicing contemplative prayer, the Christians, those who are meditating, whether they are New Age or just not anything, but they meditate. And then your New Age transcendental meditators, then, you know, they're all doing the same practice. They're all doing the same practice. They're all doing the same practice. They're all doing the same practice. They're all doing the same practice. They're all doing the same practice. They're all going to receive the same message. And so this, the last quote I'll give is from Alice A. Bailey. Again, this is an ultimate goal of esoteric training. And this development will allow us to access the mind of God and directly answer what the Bible calls the pattern of things in the heavens, right? So this is a counterfeit. And then she says, we will then understand and be able to participate consciously in the great plan for humanity. Remember their great plan is to bring everybody together. Bayley addressed this step when she wrote, one after another the sons and daughters of God have entered into their heritage, becoming God right and found themselves sensitive to the world plan they have through steadfastness and contemplation. Equip themselves to act as interpreters of the universal mind. Universal, UNM is capitalized, we know that's Satan's mind, and as intermediaries between this Like it or not, Tiredness Even the Over Есть Mut bakers of the Universal mind. Universal, UNM is capitalized we know that Satan's mind. And as intermediaries between these Obama With a dimensional of the Universal wise. Universal Level is capitalized. We know that's Satan's mind and as intermediaries between this. This is what is happening to people occasionally with human error. In fact it's very important that we organize within this through multiplicity.

1:09:59 intermediaries between the non telepathic multitudes those who don't meditate and The world to the intuitive thinkers and all fields of knowledge and to the telepathic and inspired Communicators can be traced the best that man knows So this is we're looking for higher knowledge, and they're looking at it to come from basically demonic entities So hidden hidden higher knowledge Yeah, and it's given it's given through an elite class as well. You know you can see the So condescending if you ever wonder why? Sometimes these quote-unquote elite people really look down on the the rest of humanity It's because they feel they are elevated beings They have this spiritual calling that you don't have access to they are the telepathic class and Essentially yeah, they're the initiated. They're the Enlightened ones right there the illuminated beings That's there's a bunch of different things that they do to to just bolster themselves up. They're very puffed up and What's happening is no matter where in the world these people are it's they're all going down their own individual wells But they're drawing out of the same spring and that's why like you were saying Stephanie they can receive a unified message And it's going to be all the more convincing because wow if So-and-so saying it over here, and this person saying it over there. It's just ink it starts to It's like a net you know say if you have a net that goes out and has many different points It's like we can spread this thing as wide as we possibly can and that's the nature of this deception for sure Can I make one more quote short quote? Yeah, go for it. Okay. This is again This is Alice Bailey, and she says this is this connects to Christianity instead of opposing Christianity the occult would capture and blame Itself with Christianity and then use it as its primary vehicle for spreading and instilling the New Age consciousness So this is all preparing us to receive another Jesus Wow that's that's really really hits hard, and that's that's the whole the whole The whole plan basically right there, and it's all outlined in Daniel Revelation as well But you're hearing it from both sides and the both are saying the same thing. It's even more powerful I want to want to catch our super chat real quick Our very own Deb. Thank you so much Debra She says get the word out for the best downloads available The only download that you'll save that that will save your life Matthew's brilliance is but a reflection of the awesome content He chooses to fill himself with get in on it and of course she's talking about the Bible Thank You Deb. Yeah, she is certainly talking about the Bible Very good. Well, I appreciate both of you on here tonight. We're not done yet I mean in fact we probably need to speed up We're only a third of the way through the whole whole thing and we're already 45 minutes into it So we are running behind I hope you don't guys are interested in a longer program tonight because we got some very interesting things coming up in Particular this next clip. We're gonna talk a little bit about The Vatican and what the Vatican is concerned about and what they're doing to put together a nine-person team in the United States watch this in November of 2009 Yeah, the Pope Benedict Not the most progressive of all of hopes in history Who had been the formerly that the head of the doctrine of the faith that is kind of the hammer in the horse room of?

1:13:48 doctrines he convened at Castle Gandolfo outside of Rome where the papal observatory is a Cadre of scientists from around the world, you know astrophysicist biophysicists others and And brought together members of the Vatican To go out to Castle, Gandolfo to meet with the scientists for over a period of a whole week to discuss the issue of the quest of for discovering extraterrestrial life in the universe. The church officials realized that we were approaching a moment in our human family that was going to be clearly analogous to that realization that we were not in the physical center of the universe, and that was that we are not, in fact, the only sentient, intelligent life in the universe. And so, therefore, there was a time approaching with the church when they were going to have to reconfigure their basic geographic understanding of the place of our human family in the universe. So he called them together.

1:15:03 They spent a week there in conference with all of them. And then Pope Benedict instructed Father José Gabriel Funes, a Jesuit priest who was the director of the Pontifical Observatory, to go back into Rome and from the Vatican, himself, in the press room, to issue a public statement. And the public statement was issued on the 10th of November of 2009 and went public basically on the 11th, in which they said the following. They said, in light of the discovery of more and more of these new exoplanets by the space-borne telescopes, the Planck telescope, the Hubble telescope, and what was upcoming was the... the James Webb telescope, that in light of the discovery of more and more of these new exoplanets, it has now become clear that much sooner than had been previously anticipated, our human family is going to be discovering the existence of life elsewhere in the universe.

1:16:12 Therefore, the time has arrived for the commencement of an extremely important set of conversations addressing the profound... philosophical and theological questions that are presented to our human family by the discovery of life elsewhere in the universe. And so, when that statement was issued, in my capacity as the former general counsel of the Jesuit social ministry office, what I did is I reached out, I contacted Father José Gabriel Funes within the first... two minutes of our conversation. He said, look, Dan, he said, look, we're not talking here about discovering some single-cell life form under some frozen sea on some distant moon of a planet in some far-off galaxy.

1:17:09 We're talking about another highly intelligent, highly technologically developed, but distinctly non-human species right here in our Milky Way galaxy. And so, I took it upon myself at that point to start figuring out how I would be able to assist in facilitating the convening of this set of conversations among our people that we have to have in order to adjust to this. And so that has brought me, since that time, up to this point now, where I am fortunately participating in helping to nominate the... the individuals who are going to make up a nine-member board of review that is going to be appointed by President Biden at the beginning of 2024 to extract from every single one of the U.S. military services and every one of the 18 intelligence agencies and all of the agencies and departments of the Defense Department, as well as the U.S. government contractors, who have any information whatsoever about the UFO phenomenon and the potential existence of extraterrestrial or non-human intelligence that is operating these UFOs. And that they're going to be... all of these agencies are going to be required to turn over this information to this board.

1:18:43 And the board is going to be obligated, pursuant to a... it's Amendment 797, of the National Defense Authorization Act. It's going to be enacted on December 22nd of 2023. And within... within 45 days of the passage of the act, we have to submit... there's a list of us... have to submit nominations to President Biden. And he's going to nominate people of his choice to the United States Senate. Just... as they would a Supreme Court justice. And there's nine of them, just like there's nine justices of the Supreme Court. This new board is going to be the... the unidentified anomalous phenomenon records review board.

1:19:38 And they are going to be mandated by law as of December 22nd of 2023 to publicly release this information. All information, if it was obtained more than 25 years ago, is going to have to be released within the first 180 days. And the rest of the information, if there is an application to postpone public revelation of it, it has to be justified to the president. And this board is going to operate over a seven-year period to establish what the statute calls the control... the control of the world. And the court is going to be able to make a full disclosure to the world of the information that is in the possession of the United States government pertaining to the UFO phenomenon and the existence of extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional life.

1:20:40 That was fascinating. And that's what's happening right now. I'm just blown away. And so you have... He started with what has happened... What has happened in Benedict's era, right? Where he said, you know, look, they realize that this is going to be so pivotal. It's going to be just like when the church realized that we weren't the center of the universe and we had to make an announcement to the rest of the un... un-understand... under-understood... uneducated group. And now he says, we got to get a group together to get ahead of this because it's going to be a big deal. And he's trying to do that. He's part of the group that nominates those people to do that. What is happening here? Before I ask you guys to comment, this... I'm going to get the Super Chat here. Chatbot2UK, people need to hear this.

1:21:30 I like that you are breaking down the arguments in line with Scripture. Can you do some punchy shorts of this, please? Yes, we intend to. There's some very interesting stuff happening right now. We want to get more content out. More punchy shorts are coming your way if we can be more punchy. So I want to get into that in just a second. By the way, if you do enjoy this and you think this is valuable information, I want to ask that you join our group, join our private community, patreon.com slash strangenormal. We will see you there on the Discord. Matthew, let me go to you first. Do you have any comments on this before we go into our next clip? Man, he had a lot to say, didn't he? Yeah. I feel like there was a ton of information to take in. I noticed earlier on, did he mention the content? Did he mention the Congregation of Doctrine and Faith?

1:22:22 They're part of this initiative, this nine member. Did you guys catch that at all? That was one of the things he was talking about. Well, the Congregation of Doctrine and Faith, that was better known as the Roman Inquisition. It's since changed its name. So if they are drawing candidacy from this group or this group is having any hand in these nine members that are being chosen, it's just the old Inquisition kind of flexing its muscles. There's going to need to be a new Inquisition because as he's talking about, there needs to be a disclosure. People need to have this information. And why? Because people are ultimately going to need to make a choice. You remain ignorant of it until somebody gives you the information and then it says, okay, are you going to believe it or not? Are you going along with this?

1:23:13 Yes or no. That's part of the will that God has instilled in you. That's part of the will that God has instilled in us. He wants us to choose love. He wants us to choose obedience. He wants us to choose righteousness and eternal life. That's something that's set before you. And Satan desperately wants, for as many people as possible, to choose his side and to choose to rebel against God and fight against him. So, unfortunately, the masses, I believe, are going to be, just think about it, people, think about how interconnected we are in terms of media. Not even the old news media, but your social media. The amount of people who received peer pressure, even biblically, there are examples of people who had peer pressure. Peter was peer pressured into denying Jesus because he was so afraid of what was happening around him.

1:24:10 No, I don't know this man. I don't know this man. And he ended up buckling under the pressure. So I think even through social media, that could be a thing. If you've got a profile on one of the major sites, expect that to be. We've seen a lot of things, and I believe there's been so many dry runs in the past few years. And I don't think I have to get into the specifics necessarily, but you have, for example, the Ukraine war, right? It's like people go and they change their profile pictures to Ukraine flags. And it's like, who is not doing that? Oh, you're supporting the Russians? That's not good. You had with George Floyd, you had Black Lives Matter. What, you don't think Black Lives Matter? What's wrong with you? Why aren't you posting this on your thing? You have the COVID-19. Oh, we're all in this together, posting this type of thing on your social media.

1:25:02 This is part of, if we're going to audit you and see what you believe in, we're going to go here. So I think there's going to come a time where the social signaling is going to be towards, aren't you so happy? Aren't you so happy that these beings are here? Aren't you so happy that they exist and that we're not alone and there's this intelligence that's out there that's not just us? Well, I don't need them to tell me that there's an intelligence out there that's not just us because it's very clear that there are spiritual intelligences that are actively working against us. And there are spiritual intelligences, holy angels of God, God is a spirit, as the Bible says, working for us and for our salvation. So the war is on. It's already being waged. And unfortunately, I do think a lot of people are just in the dark on it and they're going to be introduced to this and it's going to, wow, blow their mind. And yeah, it's just going to come from all angles, really. Very good.

1:26:00 Stephanie. Oh, well, just some thoughts. I mean, this is going to be a powerhouse board, in my opinion. You have a Jesuit who's handpicking nine people to suggest to a Jesuit president to pick from. Really? I didn't know that. Joe Biden? He's a Catholic, a practicing Catholic. I mean, he's been, when, so this is interesting, when Pope Francis was actually elected to his papal office, it was not Barack Obama that went overseas to congratulate him. All of the leaders of the world went over and they, I've included a little clip in this of one of our more condensed videos, but they came and they showed their homage to the Pope. And the representative of the United States of America was Joe Biden, the vice president at the time.

1:26:54 So. Wow. Yeah, I would say that Jesuit connections, I don't know where he went to school, but I bet it's a Jesuit college. How much do we want to bet? Sure. And I shouldn't say he's Jesuit. I should say I believe he's Jesuit educated, but I'm sure also he's very influenced by those around him who are Jesuits if he is not a Jesuit. So it just seems to me the board is stacked and therefore the narrative will be a script. And then you have Operation Mockingbird for all of the media outlets. So whatever is going to go out is not going to be tested like we test the scriptures, right? The things against the scriptures. This is just going to go out as a narrative. And like Andrew said, you're going to have to believe it or you will be canceled, right?

1:27:49 Cancel culture. Very good. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, that was it. Very good. Very good. Eason Patterson says, just did a deep dive on the U.S. Supreme Court justices and they are all a part of secret societies connected to Freemason and Jesuits. That's interesting. He says three red flags, probably more than that even. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I think we're going to see a lot of things happening very quickly as the scripture says. And I want to reach out to Sheehan as well because I'm sure if Sheehan, if you do, are interested in talking about this, I would love to talk about this. We're not going to bring you on here and give you a deposition about what's happening here. We truly are fascinated by the world events that are happening around us. And if we're getting some things wrong, hey, let's find out. What have we got wrong?

1:28:50 Because we think we've studied this pretty well and we want to know what you know and talk to us. We'd love to hear it. And again, it's not going to be a, we're not going to hoodwink you or whatever that's called when you put something to hood over someone and take you into the back room. We'd love to just chat. So if that's something that you'd like to do, let's come on, let's chat about it, and we'd love to see exactly what it is that's happening behind the scenes because it sounds like you have a lot more information that you are just not telling everyone because we've got the questions to ask because we believe we know the inside. Matthew, it sounds like you want to say something. You're making funny noises over there. Oh, no, just see. Daniel Sheehan, if you are watching, I might not be there for the conversation. If you are watching, I just want to say, repent, come to Jesus Christ, and you have to forsake all of your worldly ties and throw it all on Jesus.

1:29:49 I don't know. Brad wants to have a conversation with Daniel. That's great. There are certain people that I'm up for chatting to in good faith, but I think some people know a lot more than they're letting on, and I think they might be a little more sinister than other people. Man, okay. Not to go crazy on them here or anything like that, but just certain backgrounds and certain folks. I mean, you know, Pope Francis could want to come on the show and chat, and I would have the same reaction I would have. Pope Francis, please, if you're watching this, repent, come to Jesus Christ, abandon all of the pagan practices, and throw yourself wholly upon God. I mean, I want you to experience the fullness of eternal life, with the rest of us, and go forward into a new world where we're not deceiving anybody.

1:30:40 Isn't that going to be great? I think that's great. I don't want to deceive anybody, right? Absolutely. It's crazy. I don't want to deceive anybody either. But I do want to chat. I want to find out, because I think a little over-the-fence talk would be at least a bit interesting to chat with a neighbor about this. And I'm sure, just as I mentioned at the very beginning, all the people, patrons and watchers and everyone involved, they're all thinking about questions that we would love to ask. Love to ask someone that's deeply involved in this, and I have mine as well. The full disclosure, this is a disclosure on the Strange Normals channel, I have had about three or four emails in with his secretary on this, and he currently has my cell phone number just waiting for that phone to ring, and we'll see what he says.

1:31:35 I'm not sure if I'm going to get a tongue lashing for this broadcast, or if we're actually going to meet up and we're going to talk. I got a question. My question is why, in all these clips that we're watching, you're not referencing the teachings of Jesus Christ a single time, and you've talked about the Catholic Christian Church, when it's not called the Catholic Christian Church, it's called the Roman Catholic Church, and it's that way for a reason. But yeah, I would say, incorporate more of Jesus' teachings into your worldview, specifically when you're talking about spiritual matters. I'd like to know what Jesus said that makes it okay to meditate the way you do, and would like other people to meditate, and yeah, that would be a great question, I think. I want to know. Please, bring a Bible, and just, out of the Bible, pick some scriptures as to why we should be practicing our religion that way. I think that would be fascinating. More so than any of the UFO stuff. I think that's where the money's at.

1:32:36 Okay, all right. Sounds like you should be asking some of the questions. Go ahead, go ahead. On that note, Andrew, I'm going to follow suit. So, why is it that... We'll see you later. Stephanie. Why is it... Can you hear me? My name is Matthew, just so you know. My name is Matthew. Did I say Andrew? You've been calling me Andrew, I think. I have been? Oh my word. Yeah. What took you so long? Brad's normally the one who screws up the... Well, at first you said Andrew, and I was like, is she talking to someone in the chat? But then I was like, oh no, she's calling me Andrew. There is Andrew in the chat. I've been reading it. I'm so sorry, Matthew. Right, yeah. That happens. We've got a couple of Andrews now. It's okay. I'm going to go. No, don't worry about it. So, I'm so sorry.

1:33:21 So, I... Anyway, where was I? Okay. So, I want to know why you want to paint the fundamentalist as ignorant. So, we'll get into that later, but it's insulting. And to put yourself as a higher authority, more bright, more brilliant, and the fundamentalist is just plain ignorant and lacks experience and knowledge. So, we can have that discussion, but only with using the Bible. So, you can't be bringing in other things. So, there you go. That's my input, Brad. Yeah. That's the trouble. And I think that's a trouble because I think... I'm trying to get inside their head and understand what's going on because I truly want to understand just so I can better relay the truth. And so, what's going on, I think, is they think that, hey, look, and I've talked... I've had a Catholic roommate that reminds me of Sheehan. He... And I want to preface it with this. Sheehan, you have so much in your head. You have a lot of education.

1:34:30 Just as my professional educated roommate that had been in college for 20 years, he could write papers better than I could, but he had so much information that I wouldn't get a word in edgewise. And so, long story short, hey, Sheehan, I would really, really love to talk with you, but we're going to have to put a time limit on what you're saying because we got a full program to do, just as we're doing tonight. We actually got a lot of clips to cover. There's a lot of clips to cover, too. I forgot what I was going to say at the very beginning there, but let's get on with the program because there's lots happening right now. There is two things that Sheehan, the Jesuit Catholic law professor, is concerned about, who's putting together this whole UFO disclosure for the rest of the United States, and he says there's two things he's concerned about. What do you think those two things are? Let's find out. And so, the bottom line is that we're now at a stage where there has to be a great revision of the thinking of the Catholic Church. There needs to be a great revision of the thinking of the secular culture that obtains on our planet.

1:35:42 We have to reevaluate our economics, our philosophies, our theologies. This is a profound juncture in our human history in that what I want to do is to assist and facilitate and participate to the extent to which I'm allowed to in this process. And I think that we all have to do this. We all want to engage in this process, and I think that we have to invite people in, not just the scholars and the theologians and the philosophers and the economists, but what's happening right now is this board. It's called the... It's called the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Records Review Board. This board of nine that we discussed. That's the board of nine. It's going to be called. In that they are going to...

1:36:38 This is not the clip that I expected it was going to be. I'm going to skip ahead real quick to see if it's the other one, or maybe it's at the end of that one. I'm not sure, but I want to make sure that we're using the best amount of time we are, so let's watch this one. Popular ideas and narratives that maybe are, you know, popular within the world of UFOs at the moment. Do you think are false? What narratives do you think are incorrect or a way of base? Well, one of the principal ones that I'm deeply concerned about is the fact that maybe the extraterrestrial civilization is hostile to us, you know, and that they're, you know, I mean, half of the movies, more than half of the movies that are produced by Hollywood, you know, have these horrible, rotten-looking creatures, you know, like in Aliens and other things that, you know, are coming here to kill us, you know, or to eat us, or to rape our women. You know, I mean, it's like, it's the typical dialectic of the reactionary worldview, you know, is settled in trying to paint the extraterrestrial civilization as an existential threat, and therefore, not coincidentally, to authorize a whole new round of weapons construction that is going to generate trillions of dollars of profit for private military corporations.

1:37:52 You know, I mean, that's the main trope that we have to be concerned about. On the other side of that spectrum is the theory that somehow the deep state here in the United States has broken the code on the technology by recovering these UFOs, and that they've built man-made UFOs, and that they're going to kind of put them together to launch a fake attack against the United States. The false flag idea. The false flag idea, and they're going to, therefore, use that to justify building a whole new round of military equipment, and that, therefore, our deep state is actually trying to plan a false flag attack to pretend that we're being attacked by an extraterrestrial civilization, you know, taking advantage of that first trope that I was talking about, and that they're going to try to utilize that for their own personal self-interest, and that that's the second major narrative that's being generated inside the UFO community that I adamantly disagree with. So those are two of the main tropes, I think, that are operational inside the UFO community that I'm convinced are not true. There's not any direct existential threat being presented to us by the extraterrestrial civilization itself, and I don't believe that our national security state people are planning a false flag operation utilizing the back-engineered technology.

1:39:30 So we don't have to comment too long on this one, because I don't know if there's a lot to say about it, but the two things that he's very concerned about are exactly what we are on this channel. We're saying, hey, these things, at least from our study of them, and you can go, you can look at the top 20 as a video, go to our video section, the top 20 reasons why we believe this is demonic, and we give you very clear explanation on why we think that. Not only former occultists have said it, we have written scripture that talks about it, the different characteristics of it, all kinds of stuff. I mean, it's just a kaleidoscope of different information to kind of prove that this thing is not what it appears to be. And so I'm fascinated, and I'm sure it's going to be one of the questions that I would ask him, why in the world would you think this is a good thing? What evidence do you have, other than experiential, that says, other than people, these things coming and saying, we're good?

1:40:33 And why would you think that this is something that you can hold as evidence? As a Harvard-educated lawyer, I don't know if one testimony like that, or maybe even a bunch of testimonies like that, would stand up for truth, if you have all this other evidence that is pointing in the other direction. The second thing he says was something that we have talked about here before on here, which is the idea that there's going to be some false flag, and the government is planning to use this as a false flag. I don't believe that either. I think there is going to be a big spiritual deception that's coming. But what do you guys think about this whole thing? Any thoughts? Stephanie, you first. Oh, I don't really have anything to say about this clip. No, no, that's fine. Very good. Matthew, otherwise we'll move on. Matthew Frozen?

1:41:26 Yeah, the... No, I'm here. Okay. The whole idea about the false flagging. So, yes, humanity has done a lot of false flags. Different governments, everybody's guilty of it at some point. False flagging is when you do something to your own citizens under the false flag of a different nation or entity or whatever to justify then taking a step forward in another direction. So if the government's going to false flag, it's going to false flag. There's nothing to that. But I think as for take our word for it, these beings are not evil and they're not going to destroy you and you should be accepting of their benevolent help. Unfortunately, I believe they're going to get to present their own case and speak for themselves. So you're going to have this class of humanity that's coming forward and saying they're peaceful, they're peaceful. They come in peace and then they're going to have the big moment where the curtain goes up and there they are and they say, we come in peace.

1:42:28 Oh, they do. Oh, that's so good. That's so good to hear. We've heard it all before. Oh, they're so powerful. They would have destroyed us already if they could have. So there must be a benevolent aspect to them. There has to be, right? What if there's a cosmic... I don't know. I mean, if they are so powerful and the universe is a collection of all these different species, even just from a standpoint from evolution itself, there's got to be a cosmic court. And that's what Christians believe. There is a cosmic court going on. There's a court case going on right now that protects us from danger. And I think that's something majorly overlooked by the Christian community. And I'm amazed that it's not brought up by a Harvard-educated lawyer. Come on. This next one is just a clip where we're talking about what's going on in the world. We're just going to watch it real quick and we will comment on it because I think it's good information to know.

1:43:19 There's two weeks before the election. There's some substantial information that's going to be presented. I'm just going to show you guys this so that we are all on the same page of what's happening down the timeline. Watch this. Cool. In a nutshell, I mean, I just wanted to get this one just a kind of quick answer. You historically have not done too many interviews. I know you've kind of been popping up here and there over the years, but you haven't done as many as recently. What's changed and why have you suddenly started taking the bull by the horns and doing so many interviews? Yeah. Well, mainly because we've succeeded in getting Congress to actually issue a statute now mandating that this information be turned over to the National Archives. And all of the information, this is extraordinarily important provision of the law, that all of the information that has been in the possession of our government, any government agency of any kind, or any private party that has been funded by government funds, has to be turned over to the Archives.

1:44:22 And it is presumably going to be made public on October 17th of this year, which turns out to be just a matter of two weeks or so before the national election that everybody's talking about instead. And so because of that, I know that the clock is running now. When a subsidiary, a substantial amount of information, is going to be at least made available to the National Archives and is going to be subject to the statute to be publicly revealed. So we got some major things coming down the line here that's going to happen, but there's not much to say about that unless you guys have a comment. But what I want to get into is this first-person story that he has. This is going to have a lot of commentary on it.

1:45:09 And what he talks about here is somebody that he knows, that he met on their deathbed, that worked at S4. S4, if you know the lore, is the Area 51 that nobody, that is a little south or north somewhere, where also, if you follow the story, the lore, I'm not going to say it's factual or not, but it is, what is that guy's name? Bob Lazar's territory, where he used to work. And anyway, he said out there, he said this is legitimate. This is a lawyer saying this. And this is what baffles me about this. So I think it's worth going over. Check this out. I got called by a man who was in Project Blue Book. And he was dying. He was actually literally dying. He was in the hospice. And I flew to see him, went in to meet with him, and he was sitting with all the tubes in him, and just kind of at death's door.

1:46:11 And he decided it was time to talk about what he knew. And he started sharing with me the details of the internal workings of Project Blue Book, gave me the name of his commanding officers and the people that were field investigators, et cetera, with him, where he was based and all of that, all of which I was able to confirm was true. And then he told me about his commander. He had spent years being in Project Blue Book and got to be kind of part of the fixtures there at Project Blue Book, dealing with those cases which Project Blue Book could not explain away, even though they had characterized all kinds of very real sightings as swamp gas or mistaken birds or mistaking Venus. But there were over 700 of these cases where they were absolutely unable to deny the fact that dozens of people had seen them, that there were photographs of them, et cetera. He was in that group. And his commander, finally years into the program, brought this man with him to S-4 out by Area 51.

1:47:25 And he described the details of what the place was like, which was confirmed by lots of other information I knew, and that he was actually brought down into a facility at S-4 where there was a live E.T. Okay. E.B. It was an extra-biological specimen. Entity. It was... Okay. I'm going to pause right there because everyone's going to go, whoa, come on, Brad, what are you presenting on here? Listen to this. Listen to what he says. I'm not saying they're E.T.s. I'm saying what he's saying... Ugh. Just listen. We're going to talk about this. This is crazy. Yeah, an entity. It was like six feet tall, you know, very benign, but it was in this room where... This guy was afraid of him.

1:48:11 He said, I thought he was like demonic. Well, it turns out that this guy was a real fundamentalist Christian, you know, and thought that this was completely unacceptable. He didn't want to go near him, but he could see him through this double mirror that his commander went in and was having telepathic engagement with this being, and this other fellow stayed outside, but he had military personnel that were there, and they showed him these three and a half by five index cards that they had taken notes from telepathic interviews with this particular being. And so I was convinced that it's absolutely impossible to think that they're going to be conducting telepathic interviews with this being and they don't film them. That's just not going to happen, you know, and it wasn't that this man said, oh yes, and I saw the people filming him, that he didn't say that. But I knew positively that with his commander right there having a face-to-face encounter with this being and the fact that they had records of his extensive interviews in the cards that they had to have a film of this.

1:49:25 That's what I said actually when people asked me about it. And interestingly, this man was allowed to read through the index cards because he wouldn't go into the room with it. He would sit outside. And so they said, here, look, here are some of the cards of the things he's been saying. And one of the things that the being was saying is that he was part of a group that had been put together and they were beings from different star systems. They were all part of this same organization in that they were tasked to be going around inside our galaxy to where planets had generated life to try to get an evaluation of what stage they were at, how they were doing, etc. And the interviewers, at least what was said in the cards, had said, who is it that's in charge of this project that you're talking about? And he said, well, it's like what you guys, you people would tend to think of as God, but it's a lot different.

1:50:27 That's what he said. And then this guy, because he was such a fundamentalist, he said, I wasn't going to tell anybody about that because I didn't believe him. I thought he was demonic and I thought he was lying about it. And so I never reported it to anybody. But he wanted to tell me this on his deathbed. And so that's why I said that I'm convinced that there has to be film footage of the interviews with this being. All right, pause it right there. What in the world just happened? And so what I'm thinking here is, okay, number one, what could be happening here? It could be just some guy on his deathbed and he wants to talk? Probably not. I mean, if he's on his deathbed and he's sworn to secrecy and all this stuff, he probably doesn't want to take it to his deathbed. But he's probably also telling the truth.

1:51:15 He probably really thought this was demonic and he probably gave him some good reasons why he thought this was demonic. And so what I'm thinking is here, what in the world, what information are they trying to present? Obviously, he gave a little bit of information. He said, well, we're from a different star galaxy and we've been sent here to monitor the progress of Earth, that we've put you on Earth. And we've heard from the lore that according to this weird spiritualness, they want to present that they are God and that they crafted us here on Earth and they're watching our evolutionary process. That's where this is going. That's what's happening here. And so what do you guys think about that? This is not the newest, but we haven't really covered this much on this channel. And I think it's fascinating to find that another piece of evidence from another high up military official that thinks they're demonic.

1:52:13 Stephanie, go for it. Okay. So, you know, I appreciate Easton's comment in here, predictive programming. And that's exactly what I think is going on. You know, in Catholicism, they like to tell stories, basically made up stories that grab your heart, you know? And so this man was on his deathbed. And then they presented it in a way that it was like neither here nor there, but he was basically laying the foundation, I feel, to build on this man changed his mind on his deathbed and he wanted to talk about it. So by bringing up this narrative or this conversation, it evokes doubt for those who doubted aliens. They can evoke doubt for some. And it paves the way for maybe sharing more tidbits of the story, whether it happened or not, and building another case.

1:53:18 So that's how I look at it. And it's gobbledygook. And I'm just, it's kind of hard to listen to, but it is what it is. And it's got to be talked about, because they're talking. Yeah. This is the same exact story we've heard over and over and over again. And it's the same thing, if you hear these experiencers, as they call them, they talk about the exact story that they've been told during these experiences. And this is one of them. That they have met the creator of the universe that has seated us here and they've been monitoring our progression. I think it's fascinating that whether or not, I hear from what you're saying, Stephanie, that it's probably just a story. And it probably could be. I'm not saying it is or isn't. I'm just saying it's fascinating that this exact same story is happening over and over again.

1:54:11 Whether it be a story that's presented in the mind or a story that's completely made up altogether. What do you think, Matthew? What do you think about the whole thing? Anything. If the story is true, then I hope to see that fundamentalist in the New Kingdom one day. And I'm going to pat him on the back and I'm going to say, you know what, buddy? You were right. That thing was demonic. And I hope you had a good chat with God afterwards. Because if someone considers himself a fundamentalist and feels that they're coming into contact with a demonic being like that, I don't know. I see, I mean, obviously you can tell from even earlier in this broadcast, I have a hard time with the idea of sitting down with people that I believe are working in bad faith. That are putting on a mask and are saying things that they're the deceivers who are going out and deceiving as well.

1:55:07 That's a characteristic that we were told to look out for. That there would be those who are deceived and be deceivings. Well, if we're going to take that to the next level and it's a demonic entity, this is a fallen angel. You once had your habitation in heaven and were serving God. And you chose to rebel against him, to go against all of that goodness and forsake your relationship with him. To actively try to destroy God and destroy God's people. There's no way. I'm not going anywhere near that thing. It's like, not even because I'm like afraid. It's just like I have nothing to say to you. I have nothing to do with you. It's funny when Jesus was confronted by Satan in the wilderness, it was, the responses were so simple. And I think that's what we need to get into this mindset that we just need to say it is written.

1:55:59 When we come into contact with these beings, it is written. And when they say, oh, we serve God, but he's so much different than the God you're aware of. Oh, the God of the Bible. This one right here, talking about the God in Genesis 1. This, it is written. This is God's characteristics. Yeah, no, I'm not buying it. This says one thing. You say another thing. There is no light in you. Bye bye. Nothing more to say. And that's how Christ overcame. I mean, he quoted scripture. I mean, even the devil came, he tempted him. He said it is written in every instance. And so that's how we overcome the devil as well. That's how you rebuke him. Yeah. And he went away too. You know, the devil goes away at a certain point.

1:56:45 I imagine if you actually, if we are seated before any of these beings and you just say it is written, it is written, it is written, I bet they'll eventually just turn away and leave. And you know what's going to happen? The crowd of human beings will get upset with you. Oh, look what you're doing. You've insulted him. Oh, you're not sensitive to what they're saying. You're so evil and terrible. What? I'm just reciting scripture. What's the big deal here? You know? But they can't stand before that written word of God. And it really, it upsets them, especially when you are using it. That should be your weapon. I mean, Jesus said that he's coming to bring a sword. Jesus is the word of God. And yeah, arm yourselves. Put on the armor and grab a sword.

1:57:33 Just get ready. Stephanie, do you have anything to say before we go into the next clip? No. It's really, really fascinating. Yeah. So how is religion? So it kind of brings in this whole idea of how is religion connected to the whole thing? Well, let's just hear what Sheehan has to say about that. So Robert, my patron, would like to ask you based on that kind of exchange, how do you think religion is connected to this phenomenon, the UFO phenomenon? Ah, the religious institutions, in the hierarchy in the religious institutions, has been keeping secret from the people information which they thought regular people wouldn't understand or couldn't understand. For example, in the Catholic Church, you know, the entire cartography of the belief system of the Catholic Church, you know, was formulated back at a time when 99% of the people in the whole world were completely illiterate.

1:58:30 You know, and that 99% of the people never went more than 50 miles away from the place where they were born. And so that as a group of people that were able to experience these higher capabilities of our human family began to share the information with each other, we're trying to figure out a way to communicate at least something about this information to the masses of people who were completely illiterate and uneducated and unsophisticated and didn't have any kind of contact with the rest of the world. And so what they did is they provided stories. They came up with mythologies and fictionalized accounts of something at a very simple level to try to communicate to people about. And the problem is that that's become ossified, you know, and kind of poured into concrete those kind of childlike mythologies that they were promulgating. And then the institution adopted them and then started becoming totally protective of the literal truthfulness of those kind of low-level understandings of what it is that's going on. And so that's what's happened. But the Catholic Church and the other major traditions, the Hindu and the Buddhist and Sufi traditions, et cetera, are knowledgeable about this.

1:59:52 And there are writings, secret writings and things, that talk about the actual capabilities of our human family, et cetera, and how it relates to this. And what it's ultimately saying, based upon my review of this, and it's one of the reasons that I went back to Harvard to do the master's work and plan to do the regular Ph.D. work on this, is I was trying to understand this in kind of the most sophisticated level so I could try to figure out how we can get a more modern story conveyed to people who now are not illiterate. Okay, let's pause it right there. So, wow, he said a lot there. And I'm fascinated by what he's saying. Because I don't think he has the concept right. If you go back and read some of the history, you'll find in the 1600s there was a very popular manuscript that was being written by Robert Kirk. And actually Matthew and I are working on more of an excerpt about that here pretty soon, more produced. If you're on Patreon, you actually saw a bit of that already. But Robert Kirk, he started gathering all these stories that had happened, and he realized that it wasn't just Scotland that had them, and the characteristics throughout all these were very similar throughout all these nations.

2:01:17 And so, he realized that there was something very nefarious about this, very dark. And then he died. And we're going to talk a lot more about that, so stay tuned when that video drops. But this isn't just some made-up stuff that the Church made up, although I kind of agree with him. I do think that some churches did make up some stuff. I'm going to go to Matthew first about this. What do you think? I can add this to the list of questions. Specifically, what myths are you talking about? And what low understandings do we have that are false? Also, where, again, biblically, show me biblically where God says, I'm going to place secret writings in the care of an authority, power on earth, and the majority of humanity will not have access to them.

2:02:09 They will live in ignorance. They will be stupid. They will not know the full truth or my character. However, a select few will have secret access to these writings and they will know my character. They will know the truth and they will be able to lord it over everybody else. Does this sound like the character of the God of the Bible or does it sound like the character of a different God, a little G God? It just screams to me of satanic deception because all of this would be well and good. Believe me, if I didn't have a biblical foundation, if I didn't believe and I was a secular person, then I would be so if. I would be fascinated. I'd be like, what are these secret writings? Is there a way I could get access to them? What do I have to do? Is there an order I have to join? I want to know about this. I remember before I was a Christian, the idea of magic, even from a Harry Potter level of magic.

2:03:00 I thought, wow, if magic was real, I would totally devote my life to studying magic because then I could perform magic. I'd be a wizard. It'd be so cool. Little did I know in my ignorance, magic is real and there are people who practice it and they just guard it in these little secret corners. But once you realize what you have to do to gain access to this occult knowledge, this esoteric knowledge that they keep so heavily guarded, trust me, it is not worth the price. What Jesus talks about, you're going to sell your soul and gain the world, that's what's going on. You will ultimately give up your life and not just eternal life. I'm talking this life right here. You will be absolutely miserable and confused if you try to pursue this secret knowledge. Don't go after it. What do you think, Steph? Where to go after that, Matthew?

2:03:47 Good job. I'm going to say three things, bullet points. He said stories became ossified because back in the 1600s and such, people were illiterate. They were dumb, right? Basically, they were ignorant. So they used stories and the stories became ossified. And then he mentions secret writings. Well, the secret writings are the stories that were written by people who were illiterate. So the stories that were written by people well, the secret writings are theosophist. They're the occult. And then he refers to modern stories. So his, he still thinks that we're ignorant today. We just have to bring modern stories to you like he did with the deathbed experience. There you go. He's treating us the same way as they did before. Yeah.

2:04:32 Fascinating. Fascinating. I just put out a poll for the first time in the live chat. I said, would you like us to see the stories that were written and I said, would you like us to see, would you like to see us not live but a recorded episode of us asking questions to Sheehan in person and anybody can be a part of that if they want, if they're a part of the discord but Matthew won't be there. He doesn't want to. I understand that. But if, if we do get him on, I'm going to ask him a few pointed questions. I'd love, love to hear his answers. I don't, I wonder if that's actually going to happen but we'll see. Well, this is another fascinating clip because he really, really opens up about who he believes God is in this next clip. Watch this. And that the, it isn't that the, that, quote, God is some human being, you know, you know, sitting on a throne, you know, with a long white beard and a scepter, you know, that's, that's, that's that primitive, you know, kind of mythology.

2:05:40 It was Jesus Christ. The, the, the beings, human beings who know about this, know what the configuration really is and they've, there are all kinds of texts in Hindu and in Islam and in Christianity that talk about these things but they've kept them secret, you know, because it's like casting pearl before swine as they say. Oh, so the secret knowledge of who God is. He finally did it. We finally got a quote from scripture and it was as twisted as you could expect. I'm an educated man to, to give. Wow. So the, the swine in, in the pearls before the swine are actually, are the unwashed masses. Great. Good one. I'm pulling up that scripture. Go ahead. Go for it. Let's, what is it? Let me, I'll type it in. I'll bring it up on the screen. Let's see. When you find it, I'll, I'll pop it in here.

2:06:37 This is, it's from Matthew 7. And I'm just making sure I want to read the verse before, which is about being a hypocrite. So it's kind of, yeah, it does stand on its own. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before a swine, lest they trample them under their feet and turn again to rend you. It's funny. Yeah, I think I, I don't know if I mentioned this on, on air before, but that, that last part of it, they'll turn again and rend you. It's like they, they destroy your ideas and then they actually hurt you physically and they come after you, which is, is what they do. I don't believe that Jesus that he's talking here is talking about secret knowledge. He's talking about that which is holy and the, the gospel is holy and Jesus commanded that it be spread to all nations that you preach the gospel to all of creation.

2:07:31 And, yeah, neither cast your pearls before a swine. The swine would be, in fairness, swine is considered a mean animal. So you would not want to. And why? Because they'll trample it on their feet and turn again and rend you. Yeah, I mean, whatever. If that, if you want to take your own belief and say that Jesus here, Jesus in Matthew 7, keep in mind, this is like the Sermon on the Mount. This is like right in the center of the Sermon on the Mount. He is talking about secret esoteric writings that, that are guarded and, and this is the, these are the pearls that we're going to keep secret. No, I don't think so. Not my interpretation. I've kept nothing secret is what Jesus said. Oh, that's good. That is good. Find that verse. I'll pop it on the screen here. Stephanie, what do you think about that? Well, I'm going to tag on to what Matt said about highlighting that last verse about destroying because that's, that's ultimately where it goes.

2:08:31 Like I said in the beginning when I quoted T. Steele, this is the, the Christian of the future will be a mystic or will not, he will not exist at all. So, this is that closing, book-ended quote from Alice Bailey that says the new era is coming. The new ideals, new civilizations, new modes of life, of education, of religious presentation, and of government are slowly precipitating and naught can stop them. They can, however, be delayed by the reactionary types of people, by the ultra-conservative, and the clueless and the conservative and the conservative and the conservative and the conservative and the closed minds. Think fundamentalists, right? Wow. They are the ones who can and do hold back the hour of liberation. These must all be brought under the power of death. So, this will happen. If you don't comply, if you don't onboard with their narratives and such, then you will be deleted.

2:09:31 So. Deleted. Wow. Wow. A poll came back. It says that the question was would you like to see us ask questions of Danny Sheehan on an episode? Eighty-nine percent said yes. Well, Danny, I hope you show up. Don't, don't disappoint these people. What, I think I found that verse, did you find John 1820, Matthew? Yes. Yeah, I did find John 1820, which, yeah, let's see, let's see what it says before that in 19. So, it says, I'm going to ask you a question about the doctrine of the disciples and of his doctrine. So, here it is. This is, he's being grilled at this point by the Pharisees, by the Sanhedrin.

2:10:25 They brought him forward in the darkness of night to try him illegally, by the way, not supposed to be doing that, but they did it anyway. And he's asking specifically about his doctrine. And in secret, have I said nothing. Wow. In regards to specifically his doctrine. So, his doctrine is not one that's kept secret. It's one that he spoke openly of and taught openly and wants to be spread openly. Now, it goes back into even Psalms. There's Psalms that talks about the two women. It talks about the virtuous woman and it talks about the wicked woman. And the virtuous woman is going out into the world and the wicked woman is the one that says to the simple, like, what is it, like, the waters are sweet.

2:11:13 I'm sorry, I don't want to butcher this. I could look it up if we really want to. But it talks about stolen bread is good and like, it's like wine that's had in secret. It specifically talks about secret and it mentions that her path is the way to death. It's the way to hell. And, I mean, that's what it is. Satan, he is leading you on a one-way ticket to the lake of fire. No doubt about it. Because Jesus said that that, that lake of fire, hellfire, is prepared for the devil and his angels. And if you choose to yoke yourself to Satan and his philosophies, you are willingly walking into that destination that is made for them. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.

2:12:02 We got, don't, I'll let you talk in a second, but I just, I wanna, I wanna say everyone, hang out. We got two more clips left. It's gonna be amazing. And this is the power-packed ones for the very last. So, hang in there. Stephanie, you have any, you know, comments before we get into that? Just a contrast to what Matthew was saying and that is Revelation is a, it's just that. It's a revelation of Jesus Christ. So, when we study the Bible, particularly the book of Revelation and prophecy, it tells us plans to us, to, to keep us or to save us, right? And we are blessed. He pronounces a blessing. So, we can either follow the secrets and die or we can follow God, Jesus, Christ and live. Amen. Amen. And, you know, we were talking about how that works with the Holy Spirit the other day, or the other day, the, just about, maybe half hour ago, Sheehan thinks the Holy Spirit is since he thinks that God isn't a bearded man sitting on a throne somewhere like the Bible says.

2:13:08 He's not a man. Which, in the clip, I hope everybody heard, I said, who is Jesus? Yeah. Easy. Easy peasy, folks. I thought you were playing Jeopardy. Yeah, exactly. A little bit of, a little bit of Jeopardy there. But I do, I hear that over and over that it's like, you know, they just deny the, the incarnation of Jesus Christ. He took on flesh, became man. This is the Bible, not me, saying this, by the way, so. Not that they care. Not that they care. It's, it's okay. So, if Jesus isn't on a throne, where is Holy Spirit? That's, I mean, that's, that's obviously in that question. What, what, what is this Holy Spirit? Let's find out what he thinks.

2:13:55 Yeah, let's find out. In the, you know, the, the, the Holy Spirit bonds every single one of the ultimately irreducible integers of matter in our entire physical universe into a unified harmonic whole. We can tap into this field of attraction, which is the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Which is talked about all the time, you know, oh, the Holy Spirit. All of a sudden, I got, Thousand different words for it. Yeah, I got this overwhelming unitive experience that made, knocked me off my horse with Saint Paul. You know, this is an experience that is a, is a physiological experience pursuant to which the energy system in our body that surrounds the aura of our body can fall into direct sympathetic resonance with the vibrational frequency of the, the phenomenon that bonds our universe together in a unified whole.

2:14:49 You know, this is a, this is known by our human family, but it's not shared with the people. And so what we, we have come to this position now where we have to begin sharing information with our people. So the elite inside the governing structures, the elite inside the religious institutions, the elite inside the scientific community has to be prepared to start sharing this information with our human family. So we will realize that we're not in fact so different from these extraterrestrial civilizations that may have billions of years more evolution than, than we do. This is your money at work, folks. This is your Harvard, Harvard law professor in the field Harvard law professor in the government that's pushing for the next generation of religion that will take over, will take over the United States here very shortly. And this is the beginning of it. We're watching it unfold right now, the progressive steps that are happening. And Jesus is not a bearded man apparently on a throne and the Holy Spirit is a phenomenon. It's a, it's a, what do you say, unified as something or another phenomenon?

2:15:56 Go ahead. Experiential, I think. I'm gonna go to you, Stephanie. What do you, what do you think? Experiential. Well, he's, he's meaning experiential. He's looking for that direct experience through transcendental meditation. So that's the, that's the experience you are to have. And so he poo-pooed the Holy Spirit but he kind of referenced the Holy Spirit in terms of, my perception is that was more like the charismatic Holy Spirit with tongue because he's like knocked off your socks and, you know, so again, he compares the Holy Spirit movement with his false Spirit movement. Not use, not bringing in the real. Does that make sense? The real, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it does. Offering a counterfeit Holy Spirit. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Matthew.

2:16:49 And depersonalizing, depersonalizing the Holy Spirit as well, which I think even as a Christian, I'll say this, I think we can be guilty of depersonalizing the Holy Spirit because it's like, okay, so it's like an, it's like a force. It's like an energy. No, no, no. Remember that the spirits that surround us, Satan has a personage. This is a being. Satan is not an energy that's being projected throughout creation and it's like, oh, it's just this evil kind of miasma. He's like a fog, an evil fog that just seeps in. No, it's, it's a being with a real thoughts and motivations of the Holy Spirit. This is, there's a personage to the Holy Spirit and there is a, a purpose and a function and a, a rationality to the Holy Spirit.

2:17:38 It is not just some type of underlying thing you can tap into. Like at Star Wars, it's the force, right? I think that did a lot of damage for people's perception on what that is because it's, oh, it's this energy that binds us all and we're all connected to it and we all can tap into this force power. Well, the Holy Spirit is not the force. It's not how it acts and it's not like a universal thing. I mean, it's, it's holy. To be holy is to be set apart. So, this is a spirit that is holy. It is set apart from these other spirits, the unclean spirits that we read about. Yes, and he has feelings. He has personality and feelings and we can grieve him. Yes, because he could be, exactly, he could be grieved. Yes, if this is just a, an impersonal energy force, like, I don't know how well it could do with comforting you as well because to be comforted, you have to have a level of knowledge and understanding of who you're dealing with and interacting with, so.

2:18:38 True. Yeah. Wow. Do you think this whole thing is just sporadically coming together? Just random? Absolutely. I'm kind of baiting the question because I have the answer. You do? Yeah. Well, don't, don't be a Jesuit, Brad. Well, I mean, there's a word for that, irony maybe, that the, the, the religion that has kept so many secrets from people and tried to hide the Bible, even killing people for owning a Bible, is now saying that all the other religions are now keeping you a secret and we have the truth. Cool. What's going on here? So, I think that's interesting. I want to thank Michelle Brown. She said, I'm thankful for this channel, always presenting the truth. Great presentation tonight. Thank you so much, Michelle. And, we thank you, everyone here, for hanging out with us.

2:19:34 We're going to show our last clip here and then we're going to go and we're going to be gone really quick. But, hang out and have fun because this, this show is just beginning and this year is going to be an absolute, incredible year because lots of stuff is happening and hopefully we don't get caught up into the, into the mess that's going to be going on because it's, it's going to be a wild ride. All right. Let's get going with this final clip. Watch this. Well, it's extraordinarily important to note that the, the statements that were made by David Grush, you know, in, in July, on July 26th to the, to the Congress were all cleared and authorized by the Defense Department. Same thing, the actual release of the videos that were done by Lou and Chris Mellon back in December of 2017 were all cleared by that office. So, you know, what's going on in the background of clearances being allowed for some of this information, that, that stuff is all choreographed, you know, that, that, you know, for example, coming forward talking to Ross, Kulthar, you know, was very much connected to the planning to get, coming forward in the hearing, you know, so there's, there's a kind of a conscious coordination going on here and how to do this in the most effective way.

2:20:53 Three times. We've shown evidence that this thing is completely choreographed. I mean, a whole disclosure process is government planned. It's, and there's a small little secret group that's planning it. I mean, we've had Korbel say it. We've had Ross, whatever his name is, Kulthar say it. We've had, now we've had Danny Sheehan say it. And these are all the little society that's come together to push this idea forward. It's all choreographed. This is all coming together because people are planning this. And it's all gonna come down on a specific timeline. We are watching that happen right now. This is, this is, I have mixed feelings about this. It's exciting and at the same time, it's, it's awe, just awe inspiring.

2:21:41 I just, I just don't know what to think about it because God's coming soon. That's what, that's what I'm, I'm 100% sure of. And we're gonna see it, I believe, in our lifetime. Any thoughts? Any thoughts on that as we, as we conclude, on anything that we've covered on this so far? Or even a conclusion statement? Uh, Stephanie, go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead, Matthew. Go ahead, Matthew. It's okay, Stephanie, if you want to. Matthew. I just, yeah, what I wanted to say is, yes, this is planned. This is planned, of course, by human agencies. But we can't forget, if you're watching this channel, I want you to keep this in mind. It's a very popular scripture. It comes out of Ephesians 6. We're gonna start at 11. Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

2:22:34 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. So, when we are going over some of this information, we are certainly seeing these, as I said, human agents working and trying to propagate this message. But where did they receive it from? Ultimately, where are they getting their marching orders? They are getting it from the wickedness of the devil. This is directly from Satan, disseminated through his ranks, and the human beings who have bought into the lie are at the very, very bottom of the totem pole. When we think of the most powerful, wicked man on earth, he is the smallest pawn to these fallen angels. They do not care about them at all. And they are only using them to advance their rebellion against God and to draw humanity away from God.

2:23:37 So, as agitated as I get listening to some of this stuff, we do need to pray for these people who have been deceived and who are actively spreading deception. And we need to have the mindset that my war is against the spiritual wickedness. It is against Satan and his fallen angels. And that will help us. That will help us now and will also help us in the future when there is a time of persecution that will come upon God's people. It is going to be very, you are going to feel very personal. You are going to be betrayed by people in your life and it could hurt a lot. But if you have this mentality that I am not wrestling against flesh and blood, even though there is someone right here putting the handcuffs on you or leading you up to the gallows, what have you, this person is deceived. This person is in darkness.

2:24:27 My enemy is Satan. I am going to stand tall. I am going to proclaim my love for God and God's truth with my dying breath because that is what I am called to do. Amen. Stephanie. Yes. I was thinking too a couple little scriptures. One is what Jesus said before he was crucified just before he died. He was like he told his disciples and the people do not be deceived. And so this is where we are. He gave us that warning for a reason. And so the battle is for the mind as we know and we want to have the mind of Christ. So we know that he who is in us is greater than he who is in this world and we can claim the scripture let this mind be in me which is in Christ Jesus. And how we do that is by staying in the word, reading in the word, reading his word in our heart.

2:25:22 And Revelation says it tells us to hold fast that which you have. So what do you have? What do you have in your mind? What we focus on we become. So yes it is good to know deceptions so that we can warn others and be aware of the slippery slope to not go on. But it is even more important I think to know truth. So we are in a time when we have to know both. But we need to fill our minds with the truth so that we can have the mindset of Christ and be prepared and sealed for his soon coming. Amen. One hundred percent. And I want to yeah just like both you said quoting scripture I also want to quote one myself. Ephesians 2, 2-4 Wherein in past time ye walked according to the course of this world according to the prince of the power of the air the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience among whom also ye all had our conversations in past time I'm going to actually put this on the screen past time of lusts of our flesh fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind and we and were by nature the children of wrath even as others but God who is rich in mercy for his great love with him he loved us. The Bible is powerful and those who read it there's not going to be a person in heaven that's going to go well I just never heard the word of God. God is God is here and those who walk according to the word of God are going to be a part of his kingdom someday.

2:27:04 So you have to dig into the word. You have to be more into the word than you're into this program. You have to be more into the word than you're into your favorite hobby your work. It has to be it has to be at the top of everything and that's what I hear people say both you guys saying. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Matthew. Thank you Stephanie. Thank you God for giving us the internet capabilities to come together like this and talk and maintaining the entire time especially Matthew's internet who is not happy today. And thank you Stephanie. You haven't been on here very often but when you come man you bring a powerful punch. So I appreciate it. Praise the Lord. Always love being here. Thank you Brad. I'm going to have to have you over. We don't have much time. Both of you over because I need to catch up my people on what's going on.

2:27:51 So Very good. Come on. I'm going to ask Stephanie and Matthew. Would you pray us out? Yeah. Stephanie do you want to? I feel like you're more of a guest than I am. So I want to extend the honor to you. Oh well it is an honor. Thank you Matthew. I'll take it. Or you can pray behind me. Close it up. Yeah sure. I'll close us out. Okay good. Father in heaven we just thank you God for how you've protected things this evening. The internet and the live streaming and just your message most of all. Lord I thank you that there are people here on this platform who care about the deceptions that can so easily beset us.

2:28:41 And so I pray for each one here as well as ourselves Lord. Help us to have the mind of Christ Lord. And seal us for your soon coming. May we remain faithful Lord because Father through Jesus Christ and his death for us on our behalf we can be saved through his blood and with his covering. So Lord cover us and cleanse us and prepare us for your soon coming. Bless this ministry. Bless each person according to their needs Lord who's watching this. And just go before and make the rough places smooth. Amen. And we thank you God. In the name of Jesus we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Father if you would please hear this prayer for Daniel Sheehan. For the people that hosted him. We want to pray in the spirit. Jesus Christ who as he was being led to be crucified said forgive them Father for they know not what they do.

2:29:42 And we know through your word that these are people who are deceiving others but they themselves are deceived. And as we just read in Ephesians there is a spirit working through them. And Father we ask that you dispel that spirit. Break the bonds that they have and let them become really just wonderful champions of you and your word. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Right on guys. Stick around for just a second and I'll be right back. Folks thank you so much for joining tonight. And if you want to be a part of pushing this forward because there's two main things that are just going to be prominent in the final days. It's going to be spiritualism and worship. False worship and major spiritualism.

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