0:00 Hmm. We have another great show planned tonight. There's been a lot happening in the news recently, and I thought maybe it might be time to cover New Jersey and all these drone incursions that have been happening there. What are they? Are they from us? Are they from someone else? Are they UAP? Well, we're going to find that out tonight. We're also going to talk about not only just the New Jersey stuff, but we got Ross Colhart saying that these are actually God, and there's a storm brewing, and 2024 is the very beginning of it. But the meat of the program, which I'm really excited about, is actually to talk a little bit about something strange that Courtney Brown, which we've interviewed on the program before, he said some pretty amazing things during channeling. All that coming up. Stay with us. I don't care if you think I'm Satan reincarnated. The Interspirit will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to us.
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3:12 And we got a lot to talk about tonight. In fact, I thought I was going to divide it into about two different shows, but I didn't, because I'm crazy. Actually, I got a lot to do. It's my wife's birthday. She's 29. Again, so make sure you give me a happy birthday in the comments, because she's allowing me to do a program tonight. So with that, I'm going to bring in my guest tonight, Travis. How are you, man? Doing all right. I'm ready for some strange normal. Right on. I agree. There's a lot of interesting things happening in the world that are very pertinent to this channel. Absolute, absolute. Lots of strange things. And I... I put a lot together tonight. I thought maybe we'd start with the bizarre, since the thumbnail is about the New Jersey thing.
4:08 And so I'm going to lead with that tonight, because this has been the major, major news that has happened recently. People don't know what's going on in New Jersey right now. And so here's a news clip from that. See if I can get it rolling. The people are spotting flies. Flying over New Jersey in the middle of the night. Look at this. One woman there took the video you're seeing. So that's it. It looks like it's flying pretty low. And from that perspective, it looks very large. Right? And all those lights in the sky that you see there, see those lights? Those are apparently drones as well, they say, seeming to fly in a V formation. But the whole saga is stressing people out nearby. We're all completely unnerved. I didn't sleep last night when I would get up and look out my window at 2 a.m., 4 a.m. And they were still hovering. I got up at 5.30 this morning and they were still there.
5:02 As the sun was starting to rise, they went back in the same direction they came from. And I expect they'll be back as soon as the sun goes down tonight. So that's that's interesting. That's not the only clip we have. We're going to try to diagnose what this is and extrapolate it from the media, what we're seeing here tonight. And I have a pretty good idea of what we're seeing. It's not. It's not necessarily exactly what you think and but lots is happening right now and it's related to what's going on. I'll explain more of that later as I'm trying to pull up my notes. Do you have any speculation, Travis? Seemingly, if there was craft that we thought they were aliens and they're hovering over cities, we'd maybe be scrambling fighters. There might be a military response. Maybe that would make the headline news. But for the fact that it's being ignored, it feels, from my mind, like it's something that is happening that they don't necessarily want the public to know about.
6:03 Yeah, exactly. Something's happened. They don't want to know they don't want the public knowing about this. This next clip is going to give us a little more clues about what's actually happening here. Take a look. For new concerns hovering over parts of New Jersey, the FBI is investigating these mysterious drone sightings in Morris County. Residents say they've been appearing more frequently in recent weeks and tonight. Many people want to know. Exactly where they're coming from. News 4's Adam Harding is live in Dover, New Jersey, with what you've learned, Adam. Yeah, Gilma, this one's really a head scratcher for families who live nearby. They are especially concerned because there's a military base not far from here. There's also a number of residential neighborhoods that for weeks now have been seeing these drones almost every single night. And as police investigate, now we've learned the FBI has joined in as well.
6:54 That's not a plane. The mysterious drones. The drones keep popping up in the late night hours over Morris County. Mike Walsh first spotted them in mid-November. Now he sees them all the time. We've been seeing them every night, you know, except Thanksgiving they seem to take the night off. Pay close attention to the three-pronged lights. Mike says he first heard what sounded like a helicopter from inside his home. By the time he stepped outside, he knew it was something else. He contacted police, but so far he hasn't gotten many answers. I'd really like to see one land and be able to report it. But, you know, they're up for a long time. I don't know, you know, where they're taking off from, where they're landing from. This is a video of the Morris County drones with characteristic triangle lights. The sightings have exploded on social media. Some casting doubt, others concern. People were thinking like UFOs or people were being spied on.
7:47 Do you have any concerns about these drones? No. And your reaction to it has been? That's crazy. I wonder what they're looking for. It's all over Facebook and all over our website page. What's your reaction to all of it? Well, it's a little scary. I'm like, what is it? A few days ago, local police agencies issued a statement along with the county prosecutor. In it, they write, there is no known threat to public safety. This joint statement is being issued in response to rumors about the drone activity spreading on social media. We encourage the public to be mindful that what they read online may not be accurate. Today, we learned the FBI is now investigating. It was going pretty slow. It had three blinking lights, red and green. Christian Velasquez says. He saw it, too, after leaving work the other day. Like everyone else, he wants to know what's going on. I don't know. It's weird. It's concerning that there's multiple of these being spotted at the same time.
8:38 It's not just one of these drones flying around. It's five at the same time. And they're all around Morris County. And it's definitely concerning. Police tonight say they'll continue to monitor and investigate. Meanwhile, they say if anyone has any information, you're encouraged to contact your local police departments, not 911. Unless it is an emergency, if you have any information as to who or what is behind these drones. That's the latest live in Dover tonight, Morris County. I'm Adam Harding, News 4, New York. It's so odd. So weird. And I think the strangest thing is, Travis, that they look very similar to the legendary TR-3B or whatever you want to call that thing. The triangle craft that all ufology trout says, oh, this is. This is a UFO, you know.
9:32 And it's making a lot of noise. And if they were trying to keep it secret, why would they be doing it? Well, number one, they're doing it at night. So I assume they're trying to keep it secret. But number two, why are they hovering over, you know, FBI houses, according to the news articles and stuff? Why are they making a scene, I guess, that there's more than one? Very, very interesting stuff. What are your thoughts? I think, you know, whatever operations are taking place, certainly the people. I mean, them don't want us, the regular folk, to know exactly what this is. I like how they said in there at some point, be mindful. What you read online may not be accurate. And that's just kind of funny for me because who's telling you the accurate take on this reading online or from the news? But when I look at the when I look at the craft, I think that it really screams to me the Chinese balloon floating over America.
10:29 You know, I get a similar. Vibe of something's happening. Someone's pulling the strings. Maybe not even everyone in power knows what's happening. They're trying to ask, hey, what is this? You know, who's in charge of this? You know, like, I don't think this is just some cohesive plan taking place, but it may indeed possibly be testing the waters to make people look up and see what their response would be. I think sometimes that would be of interest to people who pull strings. Yeah, I agree. I think something else is going on here. I don't think it follows the characteristics. Of UAP, but I think that, well, let's look at some footage, some actual footage that's not just, you know, scrubbed by the news, but actually people have uploaded this stuff to Reddit, to Twitter, formerly known as Twitter X, I guess you can call it. And I thought it would be good just to look at it as this mystery continues. Watch. Watch this. Let's see if we can get this to roll. Involved in an investigation into these mysterious, apparently small. There we go. So you can hear it up there.
11:33 Right. Something's happening. It's definitely sounds like a regular prop plane to me. Except it has three odd lights. This is crazy. Probably. This is right over my house right now. You have one job. It's like a fucking. A lot of science fiction fans would be mad if UFO sounded like that, probably. Rather than. Sort of noise. It just sounds like a plane jet flying above. It's what I have. A funny clip from. Glenn Beck. He's looking at this thing going, yeah, I don't know why the aliens are saying, Hey, you know what? We should probably conform to their lighting standards. So let me make sure we have a red and a green light on each side on port and bow or whatever. Yeah. And I heard it going for a while. I came outside. Okay. Let's scoot on a little bit.
12:28 This is it from far away. Yeah, it's going. All right, let's move on a little bit more. And this is a little closer. You're kidding me right now. Okay. It really does give an ominous tone, like something you'd see in a futuristic movie where there's shuttles monitoring and flying around. Yeah. So it wouldn't surprise me if. Well, I don't really get my opinion yet. Let me see. What do I have? Because there's a lot of stuff. So that's the actual footage we have of it. No, it's actually time to give my opinion. Okay. So what I think this is, is I think the military. Or, you know, China or something is actually trying to give out or push out an agenda here. I personally am leaning towards the idea that our military is trying to advance its drone capabilities to defeat some of the other stuff that's happening, maybe in China, maybe over in Ukraine, or maybe just UAP in general.
13:45 Maybe they're trying to get stuff up there to try to protect us. I don't know if you knew, Travis. But this is. This is interesting that on the third, I think it was, was some UFO prophecy from some guy. And he was saying, oh, yeah, we're going to have a drone invasion on this day. And, well, we had a drone invasion, but it's it was, I think, not UAP. So. So I don't think this really came true necessarily. But it is interesting that the military decided to push up or China decided to push up their drones at the same time. Lisa Milner, thank you for the super chat. She says, we can't bring them down first unless they do something first to us. Check out the don't know what that act is. I don't know how to say that. Act of 1878.
14:39 Interesting. Well, so if what she's saying is if there is something that is that is threatening us that we don't know, that's not domestic. Then we can't. We can't really touch it unless it does something first to us. I have to look into that. That's interesting. I don't I don't I don't. And then maybe that's why they can't bring it down, perhaps. I don't know. But we'll look into that. Lisa, appreciate it. There are five observables. I think that it would be good to go over five things that to to know what a UAP is, because I've had a lot of people send me this and go, look, it's actually happening. Something happened here. And if you're one of those people. Thank you for sending me stuff. And don't discontinue sending me stuff just because I might not have the same opinion. But I think it's good to kind of go over these observables real quick. Do you have any any thoughts on that, Travis, before we continue?
15:35 I think that it is always of interest to militaries or countries to test their new capabilities to see if they would be how they would measure up and things like that. So I think you and I sort of agree of what we're likely seeing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. This is a short clip of Lou Elizondo defining those five characteristics. There's five unique observables that these things are displaying. One is instantaneous acceleration. The second one is hypersonic velocity. The third one is a bit of an oxymoron, but it's low observability. And then the fourth one is transmedium travel, the ability to operate in different environments. And then the last observable is this, if you will, this weird positive lift or anti-gravity where you have these vehicles. You have these vehicles with no wings, no control surfaces, no engines, and yet somehow they're able to fly and, frankly, outperform some of the very best aircraft that we have in our inventory.
16:30 All right. So that was very, very quick. He actually goes in and explains a lot of those things. But this is how the Pentagon is defining a UAP. It goes in and talks a little bit about that. What's also interesting is that a lot of when people see these things, they've noticed that they don't hear anything happening. They...it's completely... It's completely dead silent. And so seeing or hearing a what seems like a gas powered or airline fuel powered engine just doesn't sound like a UAP to me. It sounds like we're military or at least China or someone else has this stuff going on. One of these things that I noticed here, let me actually go over the five real quick. Sudden instantaneous acceleration. So you see these things, they zip, zip, zip, and it doesn't look like they're ramping up to go anywhere. And then all of a sudden hit velocity, hypersonic velocities.
17:23 In other words, they, they are going 80,000 miles an hour, ridiculous speeds above Mach five, and they don't have a signature, which means that they don't have any, anything that the military can look through their radar or look through their IR cameras and say, oh, we recognize that type of engine because it has this heat signature on it. And so they're not seeing any heat signatures. They're not seeing any signatures, period. Low observability, meaning it can disappear and appear again, transmedium travel, meaning it can, it's flying down 80,000 miles and goes into the water and continues at that same speed without any or very little rupture of wind or, or, um, uh, what do you call that? When, when you go so fast, you hit a sound barrier and it booms, um, positive lift. It seems to levitate itself for no reason. It's like, it's, it's again. I'll show you. It's like, it's like that. It's like, it's like, it's like this. Yes. It's just. Oh, no, no. It's a paradox. It's just like that. It's a paradox. It's just like that. It's just like that. It's just like that. It's just like that. It's just like that.
18:22 It's just like that. It's just like that. And so this is the type of stuff when we're talking about UAP, that we think is a spiritual nonsense that's happening right now. And I'm going to get into that later. We're going to go and do a full, full Bible study on it. We're going to really dig deep into it later in this program because we've got some very interesting stuff that's coming up. But right now we're dealing with this weird stuff that's happening. So that's what people are seeing when they see a UAP. But these New Jersey ones are not characteristic of that, but they're still very strange, very interesting. So, Travis, I have so much content. I might have to skip the Glenn Beck clip. I've already ruined it. But he basically says he doesn't think these are UFOs. It's strange that they have the same light signature and everything like that, and you can hear their motors. But this one is strange, and I can't really explain it.
19:19 I'm going to click forward here and show this to you. Watch this. There we go. A flying drone mystery raising alarms in New Jersey. There are clusters of large drones swarming the skies near the Bedminster Golf Club belonging to President-elect Trump. What is going on? Nate Foy with an update in our newsroom. Hi, Nate. Hey, Dana. So one witness says it's like a parade. The drones just keep coming one after another, and you can hear them coming because they're so loud. Listen to the power of this drone last night. So residents in Morris County tell me this has been happening every single night with the exception of Thanksgiving over the past few weeks. One family claims... They followed a drone in their car, and while it hovered above them, the clock in their car changed times. Then they say the clock went back to normal after they drove off. Witnesses also talk about the size of these drones. Some say they can be as big as a small car.
20:21 Despite the growing concern, though, Morris County officials insist, quote, there continues to be no known threat to public safety. But residents tell Fox they're becoming more worried. The FAA is continuing to temporarily restrict flights. Over Trump... The National Golf Club in Bedminster and the Picatinny Arsenal military base. But authorities in Morris County this morning say they have no new information to share as the mystery continues. They look like a small car to me. Their wingspans are probably six feet across. Mark Taylor is the mayor of Florham Park, one town north of Chatham. People are calling myself, my home. You know, it's just it's one of those things where they are alarmed. The FBI is investigating... ...the clusters of possible drones reported over the last few weeks. Florham Park's police chief sent a message to residents that drone sightings have been reported above critical infrastructure, such as water reservoirs, electric transmission lines, rail stations, police departments and military installations.
21:24 He added that their presence appears nefarious in nature. Hmm. So I can't really explain the whole time changing thing, but it could be just a one off. You know, someone thought. clock changed or something like that who knows i wouldn't give them too much credit but from what i've seen the most of the information i've seen it doesn't lead it to be paranormal i guess yeah for for me the dead giveaway is that the drones apparently celebrate thanksgiving um that's that's you know fortunate uh to say the least um it's like oh thank goodness thank goodness the drones have decided to hold off while we celebrate our turkey dinners or whatever you know it's uh well i'll say that it is interesting that they're starting to give very specific shapes and sizes and things like that and people people have have their eyes looking up people are interested in this subject so people are constantly maybe even thinking they're maybe seeing something when they are seeing a plane in the distance so people's eyes are up and that is something that they can engage because with regards to this right now it's almost possibly some of them wish it was something you know more i agree i think you're exactly right this is actually a good i found this one clip i want to put in here but i didn't know where i'm gonna play it now right now i'm on uh clip five i'm gonna play so i have six next i'm gonna play this clip right here they um so this whatever this thing was either they took it down or uh they the it's not very good navigating and it crashed so watch this a lot of smoke and fire we're on the highway and out in the distance we see all these lights going off and there's some smoke over here all right yes youtube magic right there the field's on fire there was like a craft that crashed out of the sky it was crazy i don't know what's going on yeah so there's actually a lot of uh information uh about this and some of the police uh chiefs of the counties have come out on facebook and said we're testing stuff in the air right now everyone chill out basically everything's fine and apparently and and i wouldn't be surprised if the military like testing some ai flying drone and it just kind of you know crashed into the ground who knows so you know something i said earlier which is funny something i said earlier has stuck with me but for real like when when you look at them they look like they could be surveillance drones that might become a way of the future things that stay above they monitor they check for gadgets getting nearby other gadgets and and can identify doing things like that maybe even for some reason changing the time on a car wow but i doubt that that's a huge emphasis but you know just being able to affect things and monitor areas of interest maybe there it might be something you start to see more commonly once they test it yeah yeah i i 100 agree i mean this this uh i've seen them where they take rogue uh cell towers that just uh do man in the middle attacks and they route traffic through the cell tower so they can watch all the metadata that comes through and so they have all kinds of ways to monitor if they can get close enough in proximity and so i think it's it's very possible what we're seeing is is our own government so i'm not really real surprised at um but there are actual uh uap cases that have come out and i kind of want to go over those real quick redacted a youtube channel sometimes i watch uh did a quick snippet now these are former news anchors that uh started their own youtube channel so they got some some good stuff they're off off center a little bit on some things but they got some very interesting stuff i'm gonna watch this clip real quick watch this well the fbi is now investigating ufos over multiple military bases and in fact these same ufos are now being spotted over fbi agents homes and it's all happening right now in the united states and the united kingdom why watch this well well one of the ships was in fact inspected by the coast guard and they couldn't find anything the thing is that there were several other suspicious ships in the region that they never got to and will it gets worse just a couple of months earlier there were several mystery drone flights over our new testing range in Nevada, just north of Las Vegas. And again, nothing was done. And it gets even worse. Some of the FBI agents that have been assigned to look into this have reported drones
26:16 flying over their homes as if to say, hey, we know where you are. So what the heck is going on here? Let's ask excellent journalist Christopher Sharp, who covers these UFOs and UAP stories on his website, Liberation Times. He also writes at the Daily Mail as well. Christopher, great to see you. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me on, Clayton. It's crazy. So what is happening? What is your assessment? I know you don't have all of the answers, but you've been piecing a lot of this together from across the pond. A number of these UFO incursions happening in the UK. They've been, I mean, seen by many, many eyewitnesses. Check this out. Social media like this one that we're showing here on your screen. So what's going on? What's just your initial assessment of what you think is going on? I have a variety of sources. All I can say is that this is, I can only speak in so far as my opinion, but I have a very strong opinion that this does constitute a national emergency, correct?
27:16 There have also been sightings as well at another RAF base, which is operated by the US Air Force named RAF Fairford. That's in Gloucestershire. So that's more to the west of England, but a different geographic location. But yeah, this is a crazy situation we find ourselves in. One of the bases that's been most impacted is RAF Lakenheath. Interestingly, RAF Lakenheath has been prepared to receive nuclear weapons from the USA. And the rumor is that those may now be deployed at the base, which if true, it makes the situation even more concerning. So that's... That's... It's interesting, because he's over there across the pond. And what they're seeing, I'm going to actually show that clip a little bit longer, because I think it's worth a shot. And we'll talk about it as we see it. This is the clip they were showing. Now, notice it had three lights on it, but this thing was not, you know, just flying along, although we can't hear it. It looks like it does flips and switches around. Consequently... It doesn't have any flashing lights on the side. And what is that? Look, it just became a line. Maybe it's tilting. But I think in the past, what we have seen is with UAP, real UAP, we've seen actual these round lights that appear in the sky, and they fly in formation with each other. And they're not a part of craft. They're not a part of anything machinery. No nuts and bolts or anything like that.
28:58 And there's like three separate objects flying with each other wherever they go. And they're seeing these things more in the Ukraine where all the nuclear weapons are being shown. And so why that's amazing to me is because these UAP are notorious for being over nuclear sites. Anything that is destructive, anything that is warlike, anything that is... It's all because of the military's power over this stuff. You know, it's an entire military that's trying to get these things out and annihilate people. For some reason, they gather around this stuff. And that's one of the characteristics, I think, that we can assume that this is nefarious. And so could it be, I'm just putting this out there as my personal opinion. But could it be that since the military is saying, hey, we're seeing stuff over here, we got to do something about this, the military in the U.S. was Because we're having a lot of these things around our nuclear bases. That makes the most sense to me. What do you think? Yeah, I think that if indeed, an authentic, unexplained aerial phenomenon is flying around, it would make sense that countries that like themselves having power and ability to protect the skies and all this different stuff that they would be developing and trying to improve their own, maybe aerial phenomenon that they don't want you to identify.
30:27 And so that there might be, you would see something and think, is that one? Is that one of them? Or is that somebody trying to make one of them or something that could combat one of them? You know, it's like, I think it is interesting that in areas of great conflict, where, you know, people start talking about the possibility of World War Three, because of a lot of these conflicts going on, is possibly where you have these authentic sightings of things you can't explain. That makes everybody nervous. You imagine that even has military power to see something that can do something you can't, right in the center of the sky. Yeah, 100%. And I know, we know that military has lost men due to this stuff. According to Tucker, and Harvard medical professor, he says that there's over 100, over 100 court cases about people that have gone up to these things or been in the cockpit of their planes and have head trauma or something that kills them because of this. And that's only hearsay. But it's very... A first pan hearsay. That's why Tucker wanted to reveal it. But something that we got this week was actual unclassified documents that show that China, is it China? China and Russia have been, have had military lost due to pursuing these things. And so that's another reason why they would probably want to act and have something ready for when they see these things. Check this out.
32:01 So one of the things you hear... Well, maybe these objects are Russian or Chinese, but your piece points out Russia and China have literally lost aircraft chasing these things. So they're not Russian or Chinese. So we have a declassified British government document, which is a research document into UFOs that points out a couple of times, actually, that about four Soviet pilots, perhaps Russian pilots since, were lost trying to engage these aircraft. Were killed. Were killed, yeah. Does it say how? Doesn't say how. And I haven't been able to find out how. I did hear from someone, though, engaged was an appropriate term to use, so that they were trying to shoot these things down was the implication. Okay, so if Russia, China, and the U.S. have all had this experience, then these are not... These are not. And I think that's a pretty clear assessment on the part of the military as well. These are not made by human beings. No. Well, yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. Wow. Okay. But I'm going to skip the other clip because this is a duplicate. I actually was going to show you the actual unclassified.
33:02 Unclassified documents, but because of time and how much content we have tonight, and I really want to get into the Bible study of this, I'm going to skip that last one. But what do you think? What do you think about that? Do you think, I mean, I know there's not a lot to talk about, but it's just an interesting thought. And if you don't have anything to say, it's fine, too, but I want to hand it over to you so I'm not monologuing. Well, when they keep looking at the phenomenon and saying that we don't have this capability, either they're lying about it or it's true. So either somebody is saying we have interactions, they hurt people's brains, they do this, they do that, we can't explain it, or they're lying about it. Both are problematic. And, you know, an interesting, you know, sort of idea is that maybe they would...
33:53 They would be wanting to have something that they could tell you is happening and then use that to control you. And then maybe they could be subverted by the actual thing happening. And then they'd be scrambling, trying to, oh, wait, there's actual things? We were going to fake it, you know. There's just a lot of possibilities with this. Right, right. So we're monitoring this. We're trying to piece out every single part of the data that's coming out about this. I did find one interesting clip that might be the answer. Watch this. This is from the Pentagon spokesperson talking about some of this stuff. Throughout his tenure, Secretary Austin has prioritized the development and rapid fielding of capabilities to counter the urgent and growing threat posed by unmanned systems. This week, the Secretary signed a classified strategy for countering unmanned systems to unify the department's approach to countering these systems that looks across domains, characteristics, and timeframes.
34:52 Unmanned systems? Unmanned systems? More commonly known as drones have the potential to be both an urgent and enduring threat to U.S. personnel, facilities, and assets overseas, and increasingly in the U.S. homeland. As you know, the threats presented by these systems are changing how wars are fought. With this singular strategy for countering unmanned systems in conjunction with other major DOD initiatives like the Joint Countersmall UAS Office and Replicator 2, the DOD is orienting around a common understanding of the challenge and a comprehensive approach. The DOD is orienting around a common understanding of the challenge and a comprehensive approach. To addressing it. Hmm. So that sounds like they're working on it. Just as we speculated. Something's happening here. So. At the very least, they would be nervous that every country would be nervous that this wouldn't be UAP. This would be other countries' technology that is way better than ours. So they'd be scrambling whether it's true UAP spiritual beings or actually another country that's just way ahead of you and you better watch out type thing. Yeah. Man, can you imagine if they had that kind of technology, what they could do?
35:58 I mean, that'd be a huge, huge, huge mess up for an intelligence system like the Pentagon. So definitely something interesting to follow. It doesn't stop people like Ross Colhart, who's a news anchor in Australia for News 7 or from News Nation. I forget. Maybe they're one and the same. But he is speculating that maybe these are the UFOs of God. Check this out. So what if UAPs are merely a manifestation of something that is above and around us, a consciousness? Some might call it God. Yeah, I know this is heavy stuff. But what if the purpose of its engagement with the human race is to slowly twig our awareness and to encourage us to do the same? To encourage us to use abilities that we don't even know we have?
36:55 And my growing hypothesis, it's just a hypothesis because there's a few things I can't tell you right now that I'm going to be reporting on in coming weeks. And I'm very excited to be bringing you that story. But I do know that the Air Force has been working on psionics for many, many decades. They never stopped investigating the power of the human mind and consciousness ever since the Stargate program. And the remote viewing program. I know it's been poo-pooed. I know there's a George Clooney movie based on John Ronson's book called The Men Who Stare at Goats. And I know all the supposed debunkers say it's BS. But I can tell you, it's not BS. I've seen it for myself. And it's real. And in forthcoming weeks, you will see why I say it's real.
37:47 And I believe the United States Air Force, has knowingly deceived Congress, successive presidents, and the American public, and the world, about what it knows for far too long. But what if the purpose of its engagement with the human race is to slowly twig our awareness and to encourage us to use abilities that we don't even know we have? What? I'm very interested in hearing from people who were part of the GATE program, 20 to 30 years ago, who found themselves in rooms with U.S. Air Force officers and strange psychologists in white lab coats, showing them, on occasion, strange, apparently non-human objects. Yes, this has been happening. Young kids, pre-pubertal kids, have been misused in experimentation by our military in experiments designed to develop an understanding of how to engage. How to engage with the phenomenon, with a consciousness.
38:55 And I think at the same time, that NHI consciousness is trying to engage with humanity individually. I think that if these are a craft, if they are craft at all, they are a manifestation of a consciousness that is trying to engage with humanity. It's bizarre, but behold your thoughts for a second here. Let's hear what he has to say in this. Let's hear what he has to say in this next clip that goes right along with it. Watch this. Yeah. I think we are going to look back and we are going to say that the autumn of the drones was a turning point. Because I know there's a lot happening behind the scenes that I can't talk about. I think this consistent sightings of drones over military facilities, I think I've done stories about it, you and I have talked about Langley and Eglin Air Force Base.
39:49 And this has been going on now for months. The sighting of what we are told are drones over sensitive, super sensitive military facilities. It sounds like nothing at the moment, but I wager it's going to turn out to be enormous. It's a way of pivoting from 2024 to 2025, because this seems to be ongoing. I think 2024 in future will be seen, ironically, as the calm before the storm. I think very early in 2025, all hell is going to break loose. Watch this. You heard that here first, folks. I mean, to say all hell is going to break loose in early 2025, you don't get a lot of wiggle room on that one, Ross.
40:40 Yeah. No. By March of 2025, I'm going to be holding you accountable saying, okay, you said, let's hear it. Let's hear it. Can you imagine? I mean, you're really putting your credibility on the line here. So I want to go over what he said, because we said a lot of stuff real quick. He speculated that these UFOs were of God. He talked a little bit about the woo-woo type stuff where you are able to have special powers if you only dive into it further, which apparently is part of the phenomenon's, when it happens. When it engages with you, it tries to tell you that you are God. You have these abilities. You can do stuff with your mind if you will it enough. And that's all the New Age stuff put together. Ross then went on and talked about how he's saying that this year is a calm before the storm and there's going to be a big, big thing that happens in 2025, as we already have covered a lot on this channel.
41:41 So there's a lot packed in there. What are your thoughts on this? My mind goes to a funny mental picture of people, a ton of people in a field trying to find out what ability it is that they have that they don't know that they have. They're just trying stuff out, trying to figure out what that would necessarily be. But I think that that tweaks people's interest, a lot of interest in superheroes nowadays and certain stories of gaining powers. And I think that would maybe also be the draw of some people being drawn to the occult, is telling you you can have special abilities, special powers, special influence. And so he's tickling your ear, telling you you might be able to become more powerful because of this crazy time that is about to come upon the earth. And he says he believes maybe it's a godly thing. Maybe you're in mine.
42:34 Maybe there's red flags in the chat and our radars go off thinking maybe this is complete opposite of a godly thing that is about to be maybe encouraged or possibly, as this guy supposes. Yeah. A lot of confusion about this, whether or not it's good or it's bad. And that's, I think, what it's going to come down to. Is this phenomenon, is it good or is it bad? And that's what a lot of people are really confusing about. And that's, I don't know if you've heard about this idea of the Galactic Federation. We're not talking Star Wars right now. But they actually, this has been mainstream media saying that, yeah, we have been told that they are communicating with the Galactic Federation. It even cracks me up inside talking about this because they're like, well, these are the people, these are the things that we're pretty sure are the good people.
43:29 You have all these blogs, all these New Age stuff that's talking about this idea. Let me introduce it to you. If you don't believe that the mainstream media is talking about this, watch this clip right here. And then we're going to go into the characteristics of this. This Galactic Federation and see if it is good or if it's not. Watch this. Aliens exist and President Trump knows about it. That's according to Israel's former space security chief. In an interview with an Israeli newspaper, he said the aliens have been waiting until today for humanity to develop and reach a stage where we will understand in general what space and spaceships are. NBC News chief global correspondent Bill Neely explains this one. Well, this is quite a story and it comes from the man who headed Israel's space security program for nearly 30 years. Haim Eshed is making the extraordinary claim that the United States and Israel have been in contact with a group of aliens for years, not immigrants, but extraterrestrials.
44:34 He has called them the Galactic Federation of Aliens. And he says President Trump is aware of the existence of these aliens and had been on the verge of revealing their secrets. But he was asked not to do so by the Federation in order to prevent what he calls mass hysteria. Well, the retired general says the US and Israel have kept it from the public because, quotes, humanity isn't ready and the aliens don't want to reveal themselves until humanity can evolve, he says, and understand what space really is. Okay. I mean, we're getting to the crazy now. But I wanted to show people that this is really a real thing on mainstream media. They're really starting to talk about this. A couple years ago, you would not hear this stuff. And it's really bizarre to me to hear and go, really?
45:23 That's what they said? Are we really talking about this right now? The Galactic Federation? And we haven't even had any contact like that yet? Yet. I believe the government probably is talking to these things. And that's really scary to me. What are your thoughts on this whole thing? You know, I doubt King David had a space security chief. But this guy would seemingly be that guy's successor, successor, successor, whatever, the great, great security chief. And he is holding a high position in a country. And he's making some massive claims and maybe claims that some people have on radar to where, you know, the world could shift. We've seen the world shift in certain ways in our lifetime, even in the last decade in certain ways.
46:10 And you see a moment and you say, I remember before this and I remember after this. And they seem to largely been insinuating that, hey, you know how we've been hyping up UFOs and aliens and ET and whatever it is, you know how we've been hyping this up. You know, we've been talking about it in Congress. We've been trying to, you know, get you warmed up for it. Seemingly, if it isn't spiritual in some respect, there would be a plan anyways to make it hit right now. And if it is spiritual, seemingly, there would be a plan right now to make it hit. It almost seems like if it doesn't happen, they're going to be set back. Anybody who's been pushing for disclosure, anything like that, if nothing happens here, coming up at the turn of, you know, presidents change, this and that, essentially, people are going to maybe start being like, man, nothing's ever going to happen.
47:02 They'll lose interest. Yeah, I agree. And there's always something that seemed to happen after the initial president change too or right before. And so I've kind of got, you know, a little bit of concern about that as things progress and go on. That's not unusual. And so I'm wondering where this is going to go. By the way, we didn't talk about this beforehand, you and me, Travis, but you run some social media, right? Do you want to talk about that? Sure, yeah. If you want. I have a podcast. Yeah, yeah. I have a podcast on Spotify called Called By Love that I do, that I'm very passionate about. And apart from that podcast, I also go on TikTok as Rage and Love. And I talk to people about beliefs, sometimes about UAPs and even this channel.
47:55 And I do those things. So if you want to check those out, you're welcome to. Yeah, absolutely. And make sure you hit that like button. This video only 60 likes right now, and we have over 200 people watching. So I want to make sure people know that if you hit that like button, you'll actually spread the message a little bit more. And if you want to do more for us, we really would appreciate it. This is at the end of the year. We know that it's important for everyone to get their taxes done right. So if you are looking to donate somewhere, please reach out. And also you can join our Patreon, patreon.com slash strange normal. Be part of our community of people. Travis is on there as Rage and Love or Ragen, Ragen's up there. And I'm really glad he's on tonight because it gives me someone to talk to, so I'm not just talking to an empty box in my room.
48:44 Yeah, so we're going to get into the Bible study part tonight. I thought it would be very, very interesting. And don't skip out right now thinking, oh, they're going to open the Bible, it's going to become dry. Because we're going into some really, really deep stuff. We're going to collect what's happening currently in society by looking at what Courtney Brown, and I had to bring up the Galactic Federation because he's going to talk about that. He believes this stuff. Courtney Brown, I've interviewed on the channel before, and he is a Emory University professor of statistical data, I believe. And he is 100% sure that the aliens are returning. He believes that there's a good side and a bad side. And that he's communicating through channeling with the good side. Except the characteristics of this good side are not lining up. And so I want to piece that apart tonight and kind of look into that.
49:42 But I had to introduce the Galactic Federation to help people understand what in the world he's talking about. Because this is a legit thing that people are actually talking about in the news. Again, also, I want everyone to know that I'm a real estate agent. If you're looking for a home, let me help you find a realtor. It really does help out the channel. Your agent will give money to me because I give him the referral. And that way you can help continue this channel on. And you can reach out to me by 423-749-0000. Okay, I won't play the whole commercial for you, but just remember that. So let's get into Courtney Brown. I'm going to give him a little bit of an intro for people that haven't seen the entire episode that we have on him. And dig into some of the most recent stuff that he's had because this was the most interesting part of this whole week for me.
50:32 So watch this. You are about to see a video of a meeting between the remote viewers who work at Farsight and two extraterrestrials. The extraterrestrials are from a group of extraterrestrials who have worked and have supported Farsight for many years. At their insistence, these meetings are now being recorded live on video and published on social media. There is currently a cold war, soon to turn into a hot war, between two extraterrestrial groupings who have been interacting with Earth humans for a very long time. One group works secretly with the U.S. government and some other governments, and it supports the U.S. secret space program that utilizes reverse engineered ET tech taken from crashed UFOs. Much of this has been reported in the U.S. congressional hearings under the UAP crash retrieval label.
51:29 That ET group is authoritarian, to put it mildly, and essentially runs this planet as an extremely sophisticated psychological prison that supplies a huge human trafficking operation. The group of extraterrestrials who we work with at Farsight are very different, and they are opposed to that group. Our side are absolutists in supporting the concept of free will. Their goal is to free this planet and its population, not militarize it with advanced ET weaponry. For many governments, the lure of ET military tech is just too tempting, and they are willing to compromise principles in order to get that tech, no matter what the cost. But that path leads to slavery for all of humanity, and it turns human militaries into mercenary forces supporting a fascist cause. More than anything else, those governments don't want you to know about the extraterrestrials or what they have been doing with them.
52:31 Our side simply wants the end of secrecy, so that humanity can make a free will choice of what side it wants to support. Okay, so a lot was said there in his intro that he's introducing this meeting that they're having together. And by the way, there's not going to see any aliens tonight. He has people here who are being our channelers, and we're going to talk a little bit about that as we view what they have to say, and look at the Bible and say, okay, this is actually what they're trying to say here. The truth. But what he said was interesting. He's mixing free will and slavery around. And I thought that was interesting, because he's talking about good and bad aliens, he's talking about slavery, and he's talking about free will. Well, where in the Bible do you see and talk about free will?
53:19 What is the truth behind this free freedom that we have? Is it the freedom to do what you want? And was that in the Bible? Judges 21-25 says, In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in their own eyes. And this isn't considered a good thing according to the Bible. And so when you do what you want, that's not considered to be free, but that's how Courtney is going to define true freedom, being able to do whatever you want, and not be constrained by any rules. Particularly, if we press them on it, would be the Ten Commandments, because those are the rules of love. Truth of love. I have a couple more verses here. I mean, I have a lot of verses, but for this clip, 2 Peter 2-19, While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption.
54:20 So what's he doing? He's promising liberty, but possibly, we'll see what happens here, is he a part of this same system, 2 Peter? Is he saying that they themselves are also slaves of corruption? For by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. So if you don't, if you're not abiding by the principles found in the Bible, then you are a slave to what it is that has bound you. And finally, man, I have so many that I could go over here. John 8, 34-36, So how do you become free?
55:22 Well, you become free by the law of God. And so he'll make the statement that, it is not a law that makes us free. So you see the pattern here that's already being set up. And I'm going to preface that. Any thoughts on that, Travis, as we continue? Yeah, definitionally, I've looked at sin and kind of come up with my own personal definition as unloving, destructive ways of acting or saying, you know, essentially, unloving and destructive in your words. And so, what essentially shows is you're being free, but you're using your freedom in an unloving and destructive way. And so this guy is definitely framing like alien disclosure as there's the good and there's the bad, and the bad are hyper focused on your freedom to choose.
56:11 But he doesn't necessarily set any boundary of what guidelines or if there's morality, just rather, the truth is there are aliens. And that would be the truth, the big kahuna, I guess. And then apart from that, and some want you to be free. And that sounds great. But it's like in some way that is a sort of, and some don't want you to have restrictions, you know, and because they perceive that you're a slave if you have restrictions. Rather, you know, biblically, as you went through, if you are a slave to sin, you're a slave to bad behavior. And behavior to a Christian or a Bible believer certainly should matter. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that's exactly what we're going to see some of that behavior as we continue the show here as he talks more about that.
57:02 It says, let's cover one of his introductions to this meeting they have. And we won't talk too much about it, but watch this. All right. I want to thank everyone for being here in this ET board meeting. And I want to thank our two guests for showing up and leading the discussion. And they seem to want to be talking. They want us just to start. Okay. Are we ready? Okay. This is sort of, I'm picking up sort of an intensity. Like, okay. All right. So they want me to calm down. What? They want to thank everybody for being here. This is very important. It's great that everyone's listening. They want to thank all of the earth audience for tuning in and listening to what they have to say.
57:55 It's a privilege for them to be able to come here and speak to everybody. They have been locked out of the ability to talk to people for, earth people for centuries, thousands of years. And they just want to say that they don't undervalue in any way, shape or form these communications that are actually happening. And they're precious because they're, they're alive and they're transmitted and understood not through like channeling, but this is an actual real conversation of the type that should be happening all over the planet with people. Because this brings in this new, well, okay, hold on. This brings in this new, this shift, this change. Humanity is, can I use vernacular? The humanity is all screwed up. Nothing is correct in humanity. And so none of the information that you've been getting from all sorts of sources, especially anything controlled by normal humans, is correct.
58:52 All right. So let's pause it right there. All I wanted to show in this clip was how he's stammering. I think it's interesting because it kind of proves to me as he talks to these things, I mean, he's, I've talked to this guy one on one. And I think before we continue, we should have a little prayer because this is serious. I'm, I'm, we had prayer beforehand, but I also want to have prayer now. And we're going to get into some serious talk about what the Bible actually says and what is being revealed by this man who is just an hour or two away from me in Atlanta, I believe Emory University is, and what he's actually saying. So if you don't mind, Travis, I'm going to have a little prayer. Father God, as we go over these thoughts, guide and direct us. We know that people are just joining and we want to make sure that they don't misunderstand what we're doing here.
59:51 This is very important that we understand this because you've told us through your servants that you want us to study this so that we are not duped at the end of days. And so we want to do that, but we want your holy guidance in Jesus name. Amen. All right. So something's really happening here. And as he's, he's communicating back and forth to these things, I want to skip ahead and find this next clip because this is, this is not one that actually reveals anything. But the next one, he's going to talk about the change. He's going to talk about the, what's happening in the future, visible sightings, and going out and looking up. This is not him talking.
1:00:38 Watch. So what's going to happen is there's a change and they want all of humanity to be aware of this change. The group that Courtney calls the goodities, us, we're going to start, he just wants me to keep, we're going to start, they're going to be, we're going to be showing up all over the place. Courtney has already showed you, Farsight has already showed you how to take pictures, video recordings of UFOs. But those are UFOs that are being cloaked. Those are the bad ATs. What we're going to start doing is we're going to start, we're going to start showing up. There are going to be sightings, lots of sightings, but these are not going to be sightings that you need special cameras for. These are going to be visible sightings. These are going to be things where you can see. And they're us. They're not them. Them, they're cloaking. The bad ATs want to hide themselves.
1:01:29 They use the cloaking because they don't want you to know about them right now. They want to kick the can down the road, delay it, delay it, delay it. But we can't have these human troubles happening without an understanding that the extraterrestrials are involved at the same time. And it can't be sudden. It can't be just like a switch six months down the line. So what we want, what we, what we want from everyone on this planet is to start going outside and looking up. You have to start taking, the social media that you have access to right now is not going to be free for very long if you don't do this. Social media is part of the things that the bad ATs and the powers that be are trying to control as fast as possible. It's a tug of war and it's a losing war unless we do this. You have to, now is the time and the only time to stop that, that crush down on social media.
1:02:18 We want you to go outside. We want you to go out with your normal cameras. Don't worry about infrared. Don't worry about cloaking devices. Don't worry about speeds over 20,000 miles an hour. Go outside and start recording those videos. They're of us and we want you to see us at this time. We can defend ourselves and we will defend ourselves against the American Secret Space Program, against what Courtney calls the bad ATs. No one's going to stop it. We want the sightings to start to be happening. Stop taking the advice of authorities. Stop taking the advice of astronomers. Stop taking the advice of academics. Stop taking the advice of the government saying that they want proof that these things. Just go out and take the damn pictures. We're going to be out there. We're not doing this. We're not doing this because we're out on a Sunday stroll. We're trying to just have a good time to having a picnic.
1:03:05 We're trying to make you see us and you have to see us and you have to start sharing these photographs and these video recordings in as high a quality as you can make them. And Courtney actually wants me, Courtney has suggestions with regard to the stuff they're using at Farsight with regard to video editing program. There's things that Courtney, that Farsight's using for... Okay, enough of that. But what I think is interesting, he's referring himself in the third person. That is Courtney. He is talking, but he's doing a different type of channeling. And they, Courtney, even though he's a professor at Emory, he doesn't do this as a profession at Emory. He has a side job. He has a side ministry, if you want to call it that, where he is, I think it's called Farsight, where he takes military, former military ways of doing things to try to reach out and try to do remote viewing, which is completely demonic.
1:04:05 They did this in the Bible. It was called divination. And so he's doing divination and he's communicating with what he believes are aliens. And he says all these things are going to start appearing. So I can kind of put together that something else is happening. 2025 is going to be really interesting, at least the next couple years, if these things are really, really pushing the idea that people go out there, take video of us. Because what happens is the same thing has happened at the tree of knowledge, good and evil. God said, don't communicate with these things. Eve went and talked to the serpent. Well, they're saying, he's saying, hey, look, we've been banned from talking to you for so long. And all you have to do is just reach out to us. Go take pictures of these things. And so people can reach out to us. And then when they come and reach out to us, then we can communicate with them.
1:04:53 If you remember back in Morneau's talk, he said that things would float around the room when he was a former occultist and he became Christian, and they weren't able to talk to him. But when he acknowledged them and said, fine, what do you want to talk about? They said, finally, we're allowed to talk to you. Let me tell you about all the things that you could have if you just continue to follow us. And that's essentially what they're going to tell us. Hey, by the way, you could have all these things. You can have special powers. You are God. Don't you understand? That's coming down the line, folks. And that's what I think is happening here. What are your thoughts, Travis? You know, there's the vampire myth. Some believe in vampires, I guess, but I do not.
1:05:42 But I do believe in the demonic. I do believe in spiritual things and what is outlined in the Bible. And in the vampire myth, a vampire really can't harm you unless it's invited in. Or essentially, there's like this idea that they have to be invited. And so, it just rings similar, like seemingly, maybe even in with myth of scary things and creatures and monsters and demonic type vampires. There's these rules that might get, you know, how chaotic would the world be if demons could just scream in your ear all day long, you know, if they had access. You know, seemingly, maybe there is some rules of engagement that we experience in our reality today. And the pursuit of an alien, the Bible seems to list the cast of characters. The pursuit of an alien being is the spiritual being, seemingly, that is rogue that would not be in line with God because a spiritual being that is in line with God would probably ask that you just pursue God, talking to God or, you know, praying to God.
1:06:50 So yeah, pursuing these things certainly sets off a radar in my mind of something spiritual and dark. They seem to mesh the different strategies and whatnot. Yeah, 100%. And so, that was just a short clip talking about that. But we're going to talk a little bit further about the nature that this thing inhabits. So, specifically, if you want to turn to it, we're going to go to Isaiah 14, 12. We're not going to talk about for the typical reason, but watch this next clip. Okay, Zs. Could I speak candidly? Yeah. I think that we are a propaganda outlet for an intelligence operation that's being done by them. Right. I think, without a shadow of a doubt, that there is not a single thing that is good anything about anything.
1:07:40 I think the only, that makes zero sense in nature. I'm the good gazelle. I'm the good lion. I just eat for healthy reasons. It makes no sense. It just isn't a thing in any animal species ever. And if you increase the intelligence of the animal, suddenly good and evil apply? This makes zero sense. There is a power struggle between competing political groups. Those competing political groups exist in a macro level environment that is intergalactic. I'm gonna pause it right here just for a second. We got a lot more clip of him talking about this, but essentially what he's saying is that he doesn't believe that there's anything good out there. It's just competing politicals of two different types, which is essentially exactly what Roger Morneau said that the satanic individuals that he met during the, during his worship services said.
1:08:38 He said, well, don't you believe in good and evil? He said, no, we just believe it's political. That's literally word for word what they said. We just, it's all political. And so he's saying right here that there is no good based on evolution. All there is is a competing system. And we just have to, we know that, and he says, we know that it's, we're talking to the good ones. We're gonna go further into that and find out how we know that they're not talking to the good ones in just a second. But Travis, before I hand it over to you, I'm gonna play a little bit more. He's gonna really hit it home. And keep in mind, I'm gonna reveal, I've watched more of the clip than I'm gonna reveal here, but all these channelers, their spirits that are inhabiting them right now are just jumping for joy about his rant, speaking candidly right now.
1:09:31 They reveal, they go on for a 15 minute talk about how great it was about what he said right here. And it's utterly, utterly, a deception, completely satanic. Watch this. And Earth is a contested territory that is being, having a shift of management underneath the umbrella of probably another galactic empire that is just de facto controlling this entire place. And we see all those snout-faced extraterrestrials, and we don't see that they're going away. We just see that there's like a shift that's a very real shift in terms of the management of this planet on the surface. And every person in this ET community has been talking about, oh, the extraterrestrials, they'll be here eventually. Well, then they need, absolutely need, from a logical perspective, they absolutely need to have a thorough amount of psyops that are out here on the base surface between humans, which I think we're just one of them. Yes.
1:10:31 And we're just, all these psyops that are there are designed to do one thing. It's to make it so that when the alien forces or when the new management comes out in force and shows up and says, hey, we're kind of just running you humans, you guys, the humans, have to be able to be accepting of that. And if they come out and they say, we're the Galactic Federation, and then everyone looks at all this Google articles about the Galactic Federation being like these happy, oh, these all super, oh, the Galactic Federation, they're going to save us, they're so pretty. And then these pretty people come out on spaceships and they say, we're the Galactic Federation. It's like, oh, I saw the article. I went to a New Age conference about you guys. It's a psyop. It's like this is just military groups from the regular secret space program. We're talking about them like they're like, oh, these are the bad ones and these are the good ones. Like, no, I think there's just military.
1:11:26 And the military is just, there's space military. And when space military comes to play on Earth in front of everybody, they want to make sure. We are prepared. They want to make sure that the common public looks at them and says, wow, you're so cool. And that's our whole thing. Like, I just, I'm listening. Like, this is a real telepathic thing that we're having. And I just am like hearing all this stuff and I'm just thinking to myself, that is the only thing that makes sense. It's not just like a personal feeling. It's just like the only thing that makes sense. It's the only thing that makes sense to nature. It's the only thing that makes sense as above so below to any geopolitical conflict. And if you look at anything that's happened in history since like ancient Egyptian times, it's like there has never been a situation where one country looks at another country and says, they're the bad guys, I'm the good guys, and we got to duke it out and save those people and bring them democracy.
1:12:25 That never happens. That has never been a thing ever, period. It has always been, they have something that I want or they're developing something that could be a threat. It's always survival, jungle, I got to be the king and if I'm not the king, somebody else is going to be the king over me so I have to expand, period. So I just want to make sure I say that because anything, if anyone's watching this, if you think that there is anyone who's here to save you, you're dumb. Like absolutely dumb. Like, expand your sense of understanding that the world is a jungle and civilization is a lie and it's meant to pacify you to make you think that, oh, I don't have to get psychic abilities because they're going to save me.
1:13:19 I don't have to pull myself away from the comforts that are designed, by design, with artificial intelligence working every single day to make sure that you give all of your effort to production, to making the machine, to having babies so that the machine can continue to thrive and then, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying that everything about the machine is bad. I'm just saying, civilization is an exploitative process because nature consumes itself. You're not helping the world by saying like, oh, I'm a vegan. If you die next to a tree, the tree's going to eat you. That's what's going to happen. Nature consumes itself. Okay, enough of that. My goodness, he went on a rant. And so, what happened here? Well, he's trying to essentially refute biblical ideology.
1:14:11 That's essentially where he's going with all this stuff. He said that there is no good things. There's a power struggle between two political groups. There is no good. Nature consumes itself. So do we see anywhere in the Bible where it actually says that there is good and there is evil? I mean, it seems like the principle that the whole Bible is based on. He says that you're stupid. You're stupid if you believe that something's coming to save you. Man. Isaiah 14, 12 through 15. Listen to this. How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. How you are cut down to the ground, you who weaken the nations. For you have said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven. I will exalt my throne above the stars of God.
1:15:01 I will be like the most high. Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, the lowest pit of the depths. So I think it's interesting that the Bible does talk about this war. And what he said was, look, all we see throughout evolution, all we see through nature is just being consumed by people, people fighting against others. So it has to be that and he said, as above, so below, which we know is an occult phrase. He's saying, look, just like it is on earth, you're going to see it in the heavens too. What is he talking about when he talks about the above? Well, he said, he's alluding to the idea that, oh, look, everything exists down here is just like up there. It's not. This is such a unique place that this earth is a mess.
1:15:59 And I think that's kind of why the Bible is here to tell us what is going on with this place. And it's amazing to me that evolution, the foundation of evolution, has conjured up this idea. See, if you build it upon the foundation and you start with the foundation of this stuff, then you come up with all kinds of strange stuff. What do you think, Travis? Where is this going? I think it's very interesting that he is trying to spin the tale that reality, is not broken if it is power driven. If your lens that you see reality through is political power, accumulation of power, failing to keep power, if all your motivations are for power, in the biblical sense, you are in line with Lucifer who simply wanted power. He desired power. He wanted praise and worship for essentially taking some other position that was higher. So, the motivation was political, really. That struggle is political. But on one hand, you have one that is seeking power and the other that is trying to convince all living things of love.
1:17:13 Love should be the lens that allows you to live as the best possible human being. And the brokenness with humanity is really a pursuit of power, of things, of status moving upward rather than of what you do and the morality of that, the love in that. You know, it's like, who should lead? Should it just be the one who is more powerful and just wins? You know, that's the reality he's painting that we're just in this power game. Maybe it's possible that we are in a power game, but on one side sits love and that is God. And it's essentially where we look at this controversy before us and we see in one corner is love, and that starts to look a lot better to us or regrettably for some, maybe we turn towards the other side.
1:18:07 100%. Revelation 12, 7-9 says, And war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world. And so this part of this deception is the idea that hey look, this is just how society progresses. It progresses in a form of competition. You have to compete in order to survive. The survival of the fittest as has been said over and over again by Dawkins. Who was that guy? I forget who made the thing.
1:18:56 But it's amazing to me that he's gotten so far off of the idea that the whole rest of the universe is run on, like you said, love, the truth. And we, unfortunately, Satan has developed this idea of competing with your neighbor, competing with society, when you should be cooperating. Nature doesn't consume, it cooperates. We breathe out to give carbon dioxide to the trees. The trees give us fruit back. That's not competing. And so the idea that you're consumed and so there's no reason to be vegan. And by the way, where did the whole vegan thing come from all of a sudden? We were talking about spiritual things and he all of a sudden started attacking the health message. He started attacking the law. I mean, he just went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like this is a message directed at you.
1:19:55 He's directed at a people. This isn't a message that he's just randomly coming up with. And so it makes sense now why there's a spirit in the room that was very excited about what he was saying. Let me see if I can find that next clip here. He really goes into some very interesting information here. Good exists on top of predators and force. Oh, this lady is next. Watch this. I'm not saying there's no such thing as good people. And love and sunshine and rainbows. All of that stuff exists, but it exists on top of the foundation that is built through predation. It is built through force. And I think we're on track for a very beautiful earth.
1:20:45 I really want to emphasize that. I think we're on track for an incredibly positive civilization as these events continue to unfold. But don't be dumb. Don't think to yourself that there's this idea of just like the good guys always win because that's what happens in movies. Because if you look at what's in 99.999% of all extraterrestrial topics on the internet, period, that's the narrative. It's Star Wars. It's something that looks and sounds super cool and the good guys are gonna win. Don't worry. We beat those scaly bastards. No, that's not the case. That's not the case. And honestly, that's... And it's kind of racist, too. It's speciesist. Speciesist. Speciesist.
1:21:38 I'm sure there's plenty of scaly people that are just incredibly decent. And we would love to have dinner with them if we could eat the same things. As long as they don't eat us. As long as they don't eat us. They don't eat us. Anyway, so I'm gonna stop talking right now. But I just... No, that was beautiful. Okay, so first Samuel. Go ahead. I remember back to the last clip, one thing that was especially jarring is nobody's coming to save you. Yeah. I think that that also can maybe be, you know, in the same line of thought as nobody's coming to confirm what you believe. Like, that's not gonna happen. And then he's encouraging you to believe what he's telling you. And then he's telling you you're gonna see something that's gonna maybe verify you.
1:22:25 That's gonna maybe verify what I'm telling you. But you're not gonna see what you're waiting for. Your savior's not coming. And this is, you know, it's kind of cold. You know, there's dog eat dog. It's the powerful versus the less powerful. But it's gonna be okay. You know, humanity's gonna have a better humanity at the end of all of it. It's like his hopeful message, but he's also trying to talk you down from whatever you might believe that's putting up a wall from you from necessarily subjugating you. From subscribing to what he's putting out there. Right, yeah. I agree. 1 Samuel 15, 23 says, For the rebellion...