0:00 The phenomenon of global programs for space exploration is the modern version of pyramid building. Building up the pyramids was the Egyptian way of reaching immortality. Now, the way we find immortality is through space exploration. 3, 2, 1, start. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Wendy, tell me a little about yourself.
0:48 Sure. So, I am an educator. I've been in education for 10 years and a little more. Not to throw out labels, but I have my master's degree in education and concentration in Bible literacy. All that to just say that I love to read and have been a lifelong student. Very good. Very good. A student is what we all need to be. We all need to be always learning. And that's something I'm very passionate about is always trying to understand. What's next and what is available. And that's very good. What is, you've read some books recently. I think would be very interesting to our audience. What are those books? Do you have them on hand? I do. Yeah, absolutely. So, I have Tom DeLonge's Secret Machines, the first one.
1:42 It's called Chasing Shadows. And this book is intense. It's like 600 pages long. But it was written by Tom DeLonge and a best-selling author. So, it's a really easy read. I read it in like a weekend. Yeah. Well, that's interesting because that is a part of a series, if I understand correctly, the first one in the series, right? And it talks about some stories. And I haven't read it yet. That's why I want you on here to kind of talk about what you've seen in it. Because in Starfall, which is the... The documentary that started this channel, as you know, this is... We realized that Tom DeLonge wanted to reveal what he was presented by the U.S. government. What the government essentially believes about this stuff. And he's using fictional stories so that it doesn't cover anything classified.
2:40 But he has come out on audio programs and said that these things that he writes in the stories are... True to some sense. So, I'm very curious how true and how fiction they are. And so, I was hoping maybe you could talk a little bit about that. Yeah, well, I can try. This is the difficult thing. So, I'm actually going to read a little bit of the cover. Sure. And the back, just to give you their take on it. So, on the cover, it says that it's a novel based on actual events. And then, on the inside... It says here that... Though this work is fiction, it's grounded as much as possible in real places and events. And so, on another part in the second book, it says that all of the stories in the book are true.
3:39 But that the glue that holds the people and characters together is what's false. It's kind of a weird place to be when you're reading a book. Because... You don't know what's true and what's false. Because it's like saying a movie is based on a true story. It gives the director and the writer a lot of artistic liberty to then make up whatever they want. Put in their agenda, whatever they want. And you're stuck guessing what's true, what's glue. I don't know. And the fascinating thing is that the stuff inside this book, we can't actually be sure, is true. In and of itself. Even though it is what, perhaps, has been told Tom by our government. I'm not saying the government's lying to him. I don't want to go down that rabbit trail. But I do think that we are being fed a narrative by another realm. Take it for what you want.
4:37 If you're a Christian talking on this channel, which we are. We believe that this is Fallen Angels. If you don't believe that, then you have to understand that these things are deleterious. Deleterious and benevolent. Menevolent? Yeah, benevolent is the word. And there's things all over the place that reveal that these things are tricksters. And so how can we be sure that everything that is being seen, the narrative being presented, is absolutely true? So that's what I kind of want to preface it with. Because who knows? But let's dig in and let's find out what they are trying to push through this idea. Yeah, absolutely. So while reading this book, I just want to share. I talked to you a little bit about some of the details and how it's all muddy.
5:31 So a lot of what I did before reading was pray, honestly. Because it's hard to tell even what they're trying to get across. You know, I can tell you what happens to the characters. And I can tell you, you know, what they say. What they say is happening in the realm of UFOs. But what I think we really want to know is what are they trying to tell us? What are they revealing through this book? And so I know in James it says, If you ask God for wisdom, he will give it to you liberally and without reproach. And so I spent a lot of time in prayer asking God. But I truly feel like he revealed to me some great things. So I will happily share those. Well, actually, that's a good point. Do you mind if we have a little prayer before you get into that? That's probably a really good thing to do.
6:23 Father God, reveal yourself through this and help us understand the coming deceptions. Give us wisdom and guard us, everyone listening. We love you, God. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Awesome. So I have a lot of notes. It's a really, really big book. I would love to just sit up here and tell you my story. And that would be easy. But I have a lot of notes. So just so you know. I'll be looking down and reading stuff to you as the time goes on. So here we go. We have three themes, basically, that I found that are repetitive. And the first book, there's also a nonfiction book that I've just finished. And that's supposed to tell you the background of where they got their information to make the fiction story. And what's the name of that one? That one is God's Man and War.
7:17 It's probably backwards. I don't know. Okay. All right. Yeah, I see it. And it's not as thick as the first one, but it's history. And it's very factual, very dry. So it took me a long time to get through. Yeah, so I'll pull some things from that. I could literally talk for hours upon hours about that book because there's so much. And I took so many, so many notes. And so I'll try to just pull out them. And I'll try to find the right meat of it for you and what your audience would be most interested in. Great. Yeah. Through all those books, the spiritual theme, and there's a secular theme. And then kind of, you know, the disclosure that they're showing with what's going on in the UFO realm. I figured your audience would probably be a little interested in what they claim is going on, you know, with government files and all that.
8:11 So we'll open with the spiritual theme. Overall, consistent. In the first book and then the second fiction book, they kept alluding to the fact that you can open your mind and open your consciousness and receive supernatural power. And it's consistent. So, for instance, characters in the book, they can practice telekinesis, which is moving things with your mind. Once they have been on a UFO. So, spoiler alert, that's in the book. Or if they touch an ancient cuneiform artifact, which the nonfiction claims is the first form of writing. It's like the most ancient artifacts that they have available. And so it's interesting that once they have physical contact with one of these things, it opens their mind.
9:15 And then they can carry on these supernatural powers. Throughout the rest of the story. But I have these little things here because it's fun. Is that glue? I don't know. Like what's going on? So again, like these are just thought because we don't know what's true, what's supposed to be true and what's fiction, even for the writer. The other thing that they can do is astral project once they have either been in the UFO or touched these ancient tablets. And what is that? And. Let's explain that to what is astral projection. Astral projection is when somebody is in one spot and through their mind, they're traveling to another spot where they can see all the events that are taking place, but they're not actually there. It's all through your consciousness. And I know that's big in the New Age realm, but it's also really big in these books. So interesting. It also says that they have the ability to time travel. One of the characters. I'm going to give a lot of spoiler alerts.
10:19 So if anyone wants to actually read the books themselves, you know, you're going to get a lot of info here. But at the end of the second book, the one of the main characters has the ability to see what's going to happen. And then she she asks an alien. She's actually face to face with an alien in the book. And she asks them if she can go back and try again. And they're like, yeah, OK, go for it. So they reverse time and she tries again. The glue, I don't know what I'm sure that artistic liberty, because there wouldn't be, you know, government files. But one thing that I knew you'd be really interested in is throughout the books, once they have learned to open their mind or touched, you know, these artifacts or the UFO, they have the ability to speak to dead relatives. So that's pretty interesting. It's pretty prevalent. Yeah.
11:17 That's throughout the whole book. The first one, it's very brief. In the second book, you see it more and more and more. Really? That's really interesting. Wow. It is. OK. Yeah. And there's a couple of quotes I wanted to share from the nonfiction book about that as well, because it talks about there being a link between the phenomena. Phenomenon is what they call it. So any UFO, you know, ET information that they have, they call the phenomenon. So they say there's a huge link between the phenomenon and speaking with the dead or having contact with people from the dead. And that's that's interesting for our folks that don't follow this channel. The Bible says that the dead know not anything.
12:10 When you die, you die. That's Ecclesiastes 9.5. And so it's no it's a very. It's very surprising when you have spiritual realm that says, oh, yeah, you can communicate with the dead when they can appear as anything, as we've seen in Genesis three, when the snake appeared to Eve. And so could they appear as dead relatives? That that is what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting these are not dead relatives. These are deleterious and benevolent tricksters. And that's what's happening. But anyway, I digress. You go on. No, it's good. The interesting thing about that is in the book. The characters who have the ability to speak to the dead, what they normally see is a relative that they cherish in their heart deeply that recently died.
12:58 And it's always the good characters in the book who have this ability because you follow a lot of different people throughout the book. Each chapter is like a different character and you pick up their story, you know, the next five chapters later. And so you follow. You follow some of the more sinister characters through what they're doing, and none of them have that ability. It's almost to say that the those that can speak to the dead, you know, are on the good side, which kind of makes sense with this whole deception. Interesting. Okay. All right. Yeah. So it's a different person for every chapter. And so it's almost like a different story that they've they're saying, hey, these in this one, I'm guessing these people in this individual chapter, each one is. And so it's almost like a different story that they've they're saying, hey, these people in this one, I'm guessing these people in this individual chapter, each one is. A true story that we've changed the names of kind of like when you watch those those crime things.
13:51 I used to watch crime things on TV when I had a TV and it used to say, oh, yeah, the characters in this are real, but we've changed the names in order to protect the innocent. You know, have you heard that before? Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, it makes for a really interesting read because it even starts back in the end of World War Two and follows. You know, a vet from that era and then it flips back to modern day. And I mean, the fiction book keeps you on the edge of your seat. It was written by a best selling author. So they're good with that part of it. They made it, you know, very entertaining. So one thing that I wanted to mention, and it's just because I'm a mom and I'm imagining there are other moms that watch this channel from time to time is I. I find. It crazy that one of the things that they are trying to show is that just from touching, you know, one of these space artifacts gives you this power, this supernatural power.
14:58 And I thought, have I ever seen anything like that anywhere else? Because usually if something's, you know, if agenda is being pushed, it's not like you see it one time and that's it. You see it all over. And I couldn't even think of, you know, where have I seen this? And then it dawned on me that. I watched a video about the Commonwealth games. If you've seen that, and it's like the, the entertainment halftime show with the Commonwealth, and it starts off with all of these crystals falling down from the sky. And then all these people pricking, picking them up and praying to them. And then, you know, they have this crystal everywhere they go and then they end up taking it and there's this huge beast and they're all bowing down to the beast and, and lifting up these crystals. And worshipping this beast with these crystals. And I, I just thought, wow, how crazy, like what a connection.
15:52 So there's that, but here's even crazier. My son is five and he really wants to watch Paw Patrol all the time, and we're very, very limited in what we let him watch. But he, we let him earn a reward and he decided to rent Paw Patrol from the library. So we were like, okay, it's your reward. The one he decided to get. get is called uh fired up i believe i'm not really that into paw patrol so forgive me if i'm wrong but in this episode all of the dogs have supernatural powers they can lift stuff up with their mind they can create stuff like they just think about making a machine and it just assembles together so they have like this big paw patrol tower that they normally use and this one it assembles like in their mind and they build this huge tower well it shows in the show i'm literally i was praying about all of this content and i look up and my son's watching paw patrol and i'm watching them go into the tower and touch this giant meteor that fell from the sky to get their powers wow i was like i told him like stop we gotta turn this off and he's like what so i explained a little bit to him and then he was like i don't want to watch that anymore and i was like good he has a heart of gold but i was just amazed like how crazy that they're throwing this into little kids cartoons and yeah and here it is in these you know non-fiction books that are supposed to be from the government and i don't know so we have these books these uh by tom delong that we know is propaganda not not necessarily human propaganda but spiritual propaganda and then you got the uh the games the that you're talking about that is pushing this new age idea of crystals and everything and then you got paw patrol which is just a kids kids uh uh show and it's pushing the same new age stuff and there's a link throughout the whole thing fascinating isn't that interesting it's crazy yeah you would think that those were not connected in any way but clearly there's enough evidence to see that they're you know they have so many things in common they have to be from some sort of same spiritual agenda fascinating yeah well what else did you learn inside the books i'm curious okay so um this part you may or may not like so much the secular theme so i just had to kind of share this because it does get political and i know you don't like to get political on your channel but it's still interesting to hear um you know this is supposed to be them revealing truth and so this is what they're also showing or revealing and they're also showing that they're revealing the about our government which is just interesting to me so i'm sharing it um do it overall not the books it says and shows repeatedly that the government has very very few people that are privy to the truth about ufos so you you follow a pilot um who's in a war and he goes to drop a bomb on you know enemy territory and a ufo comes into his vicinity and basically just shuts off all of his controls and he doesn't know what to think about it what to do about it and uh basically he you know he goes back down and then he wants they want to interview him and figure out what happened and the cia just comes in and takes him and they're like don't worry about this one you know we'll cover it and they basically take him to area 51 and then start training him to fly a ufo um but he it follows him through several chapters in his training and um he's just constantly frustrated because they're not giving him any information they're just throwing him in you know a ufo when he's like i didn't even know ufos existed and they're like yeah they do so deal with it and then it's like this mental game of how much can he take before he breaks which you know is sad to
20:07 say that the government would do that but again i get my little sticks out is that the glue i don't know you know maybe the writers have a vendetta against the government we got a punk rocker writing a book that's right i don't know um so according to the books they say that the the government consistently lies to their own people manipulate anyone that they can um that they hide information even from you know their own employees and they do all this based on you know the government and they do all this based on you know the government you know the common good basically you know they want to um not disclose information until it's absolutely necessary which you know from a government standpoint i could see why they would want to do that um but another thing that i found crazy in this book is that um you follow another lady who um whose father just died and she ends up inheriting his wealth and according to the book wealthiest people in the world and she finds out that her father is a part of like an elite think tank of men who own the world's wealth and not hard yeah not hard to uh to not believe that okay let's go on i know if you've ever followed rockefeller you're like oh yeah i've heard that before probably not too far-fetched um but what the book also says is that this think tank basically controls the entire world's power and that they'll assassinate anyone who gets in their way including government officials or um there was somebody in congress that was killed because he was trying to tell this lady the truth and then an assassin he was assassinated by somebody sent from this elite group but again you know interesting is this entertaining fascinating you just don't know do they ever uh give any clues to who these congresses men are probably not because then they might be uh anyway yeah it's all my wife's clean we don't want to do anything like that um yeah so in essence what the writers of this book are saying is that you know our government as well as the government is not going to be able to do anything like that unless this wealthy think tank of elitists are willing to steal and kill and destroy for whatever purposes they have anybody that gets in their way or finds out too information too much information they just take them out and it's just you know you think of stealing and killing and destroying and one thing comes to my head i don't know about you but it's it's the enemy you know who comes to steal kill and destroy but the devil satan that's his game and so if anything it's just sadly showing how even a non-christian writer is is revealing that the world is run by people who have those same ideals it's interesting too because that's that's the same uh mindset of the jesuits too they were the the functioning arm of the catholic church at the time and they um they would have this saying if i remember right it would be um for the greater good they would do things like that and they would do things like that and they would do things for the greater good and if that meant you know taking someone out to take care of business then they would do it it's the same mindset the pharisees had in the day we must get rid of jesus because if we don't get rid of this even though he's done nothing wrong it's going to ruin our our jobs i mean people are going to go after this religion instead of ours what are we going to do and so that's it's a leading mindset that satan has developed to try to push forward his message yeah very interesting yeah it's sad for sure um so the last little area that i was going to talk about is the ufo disclosure because it is interesting to hear um what they are telling you about it all again whether or not it's the truth even from um what's actually in the files but you know we know it's all a deception so it's like what's the truth of the truth of the lie i don't know so um yeah so the ufo disclosure so according to these books the nazis owned the first ufo and um it was at the end of world war ii and it was um recreated so it doesn't say if
25:03 they they really allude it in the i should say in the fiction books they really allude to the fact that there was a ship that was on the ground and it was a ship that was on the ground and it was that potentially crashed and they started using that to reverse engineer a bit and then start building their own um but you follow a character who is a prisoner of war in world war ii and he is used to help bring supplies in to build the nazis first ufo and um he's a really interesting character it's one of sadly like my favorite i just enjoyed following him because my heart like went out to him um but yeah so it shows him finding the ufo him and his brother find it for the first time they've been bringing supplies and not knowing what it was for of course it's all slave labor but um they find it and when they finally see it they're his brother's killed and they try killing him but he escapes so um so they were nazi or they were germans that uh saw what the nazis were doing these prisoners of war they were actually polish okay him and his brother were polish um but they were being held in germany yeah okay okay so it's interesting that they don't okay so this was long before we've heard the lore behind um um um what's that guy's name that says he he had worked on ufos in the u.s this was long before that um something why can't i remember his name anyway i'm sure everyone in the comments is gonna say oh it's this guy man it's just eluding me right now but everyone knows what i'm talking about um and so this is this is way back then it's going to start out with the nazis that's that's fascinating uh but again i'm not gonna be any legitimacy to it but that's that's fascinating go on um well so they actually kind of follow that story i don't know the guy's name either but i know who you're talking about his name's like von something right what is it i don't know i'll think of it now i'll interrupt you and be like it's this guy yeah no worries um but they they follow this story of operation paperclip and that's where this guy comes into play and so it's all these scientists who worked on top secret things in world war ii and then at the end of world war ii because they were all german what happened was they basically had them captive and they said all right so you have two options you can die or you can come to our country we'll give you a new name and you can be our scientists and so you know they chose to live and began working here instead wait a second wait they said you can come to our wait wait repeat that again because this is uh this is this is so this is talking about operation paperclip is that what they were trying to refer to as as legitimate yep okay all right let's let's go with that bob lazar is actually who i was talking about but i just remember the name yeah i was thinking of anyway i was thinking of the german guy who um one of your videos has like the white haired lady and she's telling about how the the deceptions he told about all the deceptions um but he was a german and i believe maybe i have it wrong but i thought he was one of them that was brought to our country so yes who was that the scientist um was he a scientist i don't remember um i i do know who you're talking about now i have to have to look it up okay well so in in these books they talk a lot about operation paperclip and so um the other thing that they they claim and that they show in the books is that america owns ufos um and we use them like daily and so this is a part of it so after um world war ii the scientists that were brought over to our country and you know given the freedom as long as they comply and and build our own spaceships um they spent a couple decades then with the information that they knew and some of the things that were confiscated from the nazis uh reverse engineering and building ufos here um yeah in the so in the fiction book no that the fiction book um talks about operation paperclip a lot in the non-fiction book they don't necessarily mention operation paperclip but they reveal a lot of the same things so um yeah i like i'm not sure when and where to share things but verner verner verner verner was his name yeah yes exactly and so it talks about how um america now has all the same technology
29:52 just because we won the war and basically confiscated it um so in the book uh america had three ufos and the military man that we follow he's basically thrown into one with a trainer and he figures it out really quickly and learns how to use it and he's like oh my god i'm gonna he's like oh my god i'm gonna he's like oh my god i'm gonna you know i've got to make this thing work i'm gonna you know i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna make it work i'm gonna make it work i'm gonna make it work he learns how to fly this thing and it's interesting because what they claim is that it doesn't have any effects of gravity basically it can go you know from here to over russia within seconds you would like in essence plug it into the console's map and then it just takes you there and you're there so um inside of the ufo they claim that there is no g-force no gravitational pull it feels just like you're inside of a room and you don't have the effect of gravity so yeah so yeah so that's that you would have in a plane but huge glue there maybe it seems like i've seen that i recognize that scene from hollywood somewhere i i can't put my finger on it but i have seen like either it was a trailer or something because i haven't i haven't gone to the theaters for years but it has been it's it's like this um yeah man i'm gonna have to i'm gonna think about that for a second because i have that scene exactly how you you said it in in the in the trailer somewhere that i've seen anyway side side note but go on yeah yeah so um i'm gonna tell this part of the story because it kind of fascinated me so um you're following this main military guy and he's learning how to fly these ufo these ufos that they have there's three of them that are like the same you know model or whatever and he's progressing really quickly so they keep upping you know his uh missions or whatever that he's doing and the whole time he's asking the people like what are we doing what is it exactly that's going on why am i doing this what's the end goal and they keep just you know oh you'll find out when you find out type of thing and um he ends up being over russia and he's like hovering over a military base and then they spy him and basically chase him back to area 51 and um when he comes back he finds out that they brought like more ufos and it's just like a battle and so they take out um they try shooting him down and then the other two ufos that our military owns come up to join him and they're shot down and then he lands his ufo and goes inside the base and finds out that the person who was his trainer was a spy and the reader knows this because you get to follow the characters from each chapter but the spy is from this elite think tank so he's not owned by a specific country he's just owned by these really wealthy men who you know have control of the world and so he's chasing the spy and um he's trying to figure out like where he went and he knows that the the military base is being like shot at or whatever with these other ufos and then he's like what's going on with these other ufos from russia and he jumps into this uh like higher technology ufo so they had one that was like under wraps and he kept saying what's that and they're like well we haven't figured it out yet we're still working on it and he just decides like it's time to figure it out because the other two ufos are shot down you know this is this airspace war going on that i need to jump in yeah i know your face um yeah well it was still it was the entertaining part for me but um yeah the entertainment is probably the glue we'll just throw that out there it sounds like a great movie yeah it would be for sure if you watch the movies but um right yeah so he he jumps into this higher tech ufo and this is where it got crazy so before this he didn't really have any supernatural powers but he jumps into this higher tech ufo and he really doesn't even have any will power so his brain just stops and he just kind of likes to do everything with this and then he finally gets the idea of how to handle it he has no idea how to work it because the dash is just smooth there are buttons or anything and then he finally puts his hands on the dash and can control the ufo with his mind so he ends up saying that it was really easy to figure out because it ended up just i mean you
34:37 know telekinetically he's moving everything so he's like yeah it's like an extension of your arm chasing the other ufos away and then comes a big huge gigantic ufo which they allude as being run by the extraterrestrials because the russians kind of scare away from it and all of his controls are lost again so when he's around the russian ufos it doesn't bother his control system at all but when this one comes into the airspace it just freezes everything on him so you know they're alluding to some sort of mental capability of the bigger larger extraterrestrial flown ship i don't know interesting yeah but wait before you go into the before you go into the mothership uh what is what are these weapons are they mount uh mig missiles on these things or is this like extraterrestrial spiritual weapons i mean what what weapons are they using on on ufos you know i can't even really they didn't really go into it so it was like that ship was shot down and it's like a i want to say it was more like laser type things okay um but i know that they could easily like it it was you know it was done in a second so it's not like a missile where you send it and then it you know has to follow the target and hit it okay was like as soon as the ship sees something it locks on it you you know push the button and it hits it so you know just like their flight that they claim to have be so technologically advanced where you know there's no gravity or anything apparently the same is with their weapons but it's some sort of like laser-ish i don't know interesting i didn't really pay attention to that part storyline in the drama no um yeah so the mothership um they don't talk a lot about it other than the fact that they show um that is the ship that can turn missiles off because they did that on the the base um in utah the area 51 base so when the the big mothership comes in it just shuts everything down so it's kind of like you know you're rendered useless in that case um but they all were um in the second book uh towards the end when everything like all the drama is ramping up and there's this you know these battles going on uh the mothership comes and stops all of the good people from carrying out their will but it actually kind of alludes to the fact that it was backing up russia which interesting okay multi-layers of propaganda going on here i'm not sure yeah here's another this this actually made me laugh really hard so i'm sure this is propaganda maybe not you know take it as you will but uh one of the characters a new character she's a uh a reporter and she ends up stumbling on the ship and she's like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die too much truth and so this elite tank sends out a sniper to come take her out and she catches word of it and runs and so the whole story she's running from these you know dangerous men and um she ends up going to a basically a really wealthy nursing home and um in the story she is given um um like a diary from that man i told you that came from the end of world war ii so he's almost dying and he's like i have this information i have to get it to somebody he sends it to this reporter and it's also with like a piece of metal that that is you know explained to be extraterrestrial so it's not any metal that we have here on earth it's like translucent and you touch it and it's all shimmery and um i don't know sure but um she she takes this information and she finds through her research skills this nursing home basically of people who came out of world war ii and this is where they talk a lot about operation paperclip so all these people are connected to the end of world war ii and they were all either like a daughter of a scientist there or somebody that specifically worked on all this stuff so she finds a way to sneak into this nursing home talks to a really old lady about the piece of metal that she has and the lady starts telling her a little bit and then she's like you need to leave it's dangerous so she leaves and she's being followed and uh she starts
39:41 going down random country roads and then out of nowhere a ufo comes and hovers above her car shuts all the controls off in her car which is interesting and then she blacks out doesn't remember anything she wakes up inside a basically the ufo like she wakes up and it's a a completely white room and uh an alien as she describes it comes in and she's like zip tied to a table and they're getting ready to experiment on her and she's like you know trying desperately to get out ends up breaking a zip tie punches this alien knocks it out cold okay and of course she gets off the table and um the alien is like flat on its face so she's like oh my god i'm so scared i'm so scared i'm so scared i'm so scared i'm so so she goes over to the alien and she sees a zipper she unzips it and it's a rush and there's a person inside yeah yeah and so there's a rush and um where have i heard this before i've heard this somewhere anyway go ahead crazy well um yeah i may have told you about that okay i just thought it was the funniest part of the story but yeah she tries to escape and basically like jab her in the neck and she's like oh my god i'm so scared i'm so scared i'm so scared with something she passes out and then wakes up at area 51 so like what i don't know they throw a lot of what are they trying to say here okay so go ahead oh so um well i was gonna ask you another question so what were you gonna say no go ahead so do they allude to anything or try to explain the truth about one of the most well-known ufo possibilities in the u.s in the 1946 seven i forget what it was um the uh roswell incident do they say anything about these things that have come down or that it crashes that have happened and they've recovered things in the u.s not in germany it's a good question um in the fiction books they don't talk about it they say that um you know the town around uh area area 41 right area 51 51 i don't like that didn't sound right yeah area 51 so they say around there it's uh all touristy and they have a ton of stuff about the roswell just to you know draw people in and all this stuff but that their their cover for it is actually just hiding what's really there um in the non-fiction again they do not come out and talk about this stuff but he alludes to it very much so um there is a quote that i have somewhere i'll have to find it and it talks about how um how this guy's asking um from the files like are you saying that we have you know these ships and that we've been using them to further our own technology and the guy that he's talking to doesn't respond he just gives him a big smile and like holds it so he's like uh okay i guess we are so i i feel like there's a lot of things they're still trying to you know keep under wraps or or keep as a mystery um but you know i don't think we'll ever get the whole truth and nothing but the truth yeah yeah until we get to heaven we're not going to actually see what what actually happened here i'm looking forward to that holodeck experience where we all see exactly what's going on but but um i i think it's it's really fascinating to see the narrative that's being pushed out and and especially when you see it and you're like oh my god i don't know what's going on several times in the book like you saw the the state of the dead uh saying that you know we could talk to dead relatives that's fascinating and and things like that really interesting i'm really surprised they didn't mention anything about about roswell because that seems to be the most interesting whether it's fake or not part of the u.s lore but um area 51 is over there in new mexico roswell new mexico not missouri oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no yeah i traveled across the country from california to here and i made it a point to stop there this little town and if you live there i'm not saying anything bad about it it's it's just i expected to see a lot more than i saw there who knows um i will say that there is another book that i do not have on me personally um the so there are two non-fiction books and two fiction books and they're supposed to follow up with what was said in the fiction
44:33 and so i've read the first fiction and the first non-fiction and then i've read the second fiction but the second non-fiction book according to the internet is what discloses all of those files so it would be really interesting again to read that so maybe they talk about roswell there because that's where they try to like dig into what the government is disclosing um the non-fiction book that i read is really again a historical account so um if you're a christian it's like infuriating because they they literally just just look at history and they say well the bible is written at this time and since we have um these ancient sumerian texts that we can date to before the bible clearly the bible has plagiarized all of these stories because the sumerian texts have stories that are similar but um they are definitely twisted in order to get them to fit the line of what they're trying to share so if you read the the non-fiction book they take bible stories and they just twist them they twist the character of god to act like he's bloodthirsty and that he demands human sacrifice and uh they take scripture way out of context it's clear that even though he has read some scripture to write his book he's never read the entirety of the book because he doesn't even understand some of the simpler stories of like abraham and isaac um one of the things that they try saying for that is um they say that abraham was told to sacrifice his son and that right before he did an angel comes and tells him not to listen to god and so they allude that well maybe this is the angel the same angel that's trying to help us today and by giving us all this technology which you know it's the whole gnostic gospel yeah and and in the non-fiction uh peter lavenda is said to be an occult expert so he definitely loves the gnostic gospel and if you haven't read the bible this book could really change the way you think about things because he talks you know in a very uh educated way he uses really big words and sometimes you're going to read the paragraph a couple of times to understand what he's saying and he has tons of knowledge and tons of information tons of research but from my standpoint having read the bible and studied it for years i can see that where he um uses the bible in his works it's not accurate not even close so like we know as Christians that god is the one who stopped abraham it was a test of faith to see if abraham was going to obey and because we don't know that he was going to obey we don't know the truth abraham was going to obey they were going to obey him and that was the test of faith because abraham was going to obey like we don't even like what um don't we the truth y'all i don't have that the truth we just don't have it and so we just have to god loved abraham he stopped him and said no you're not going to sacrifice your son instead i will provide the sacrifice which shows us how god ended up you know using jesus christ as a sacrifice for all of us yeah but he twists the story completely and says god's this horrible person who tells him to sacrifice his son and then an angel comes and tells him don't do it so abraham actually followed the angel and disobeyed god like no that's not the story in the slightest it's infuriating if you're a christian and you try to read this book um which is why it literally took me months to finish um but there's so much in here that lines up with what you share on your channel so uh i did want to share you know some of the non-fiction things well i appreciate it i do and i i think it's interesting too to what you said um we're told that at the end of the time when the antichrist does come you know satan uh on earth he will try to do away with all that is is um of a different god of a different worship and he will want all the worship himself i forget i just read that in morning worship um just a couple days ago and i i oftentimes my wife and i will will be listening to an audio bible on the way to work and now i'm like pause it pause it pause it wait a second i didn't catch that before and i'll have to get the verse i'll put it down here in the bottom here when i when i find it but it's it's interesting because that's the exact thing that we were just reading and and if if this is the narrative that's being pressed right now is is uh you know the bible's false and jesus is not the real messiah it falls in line with what's going to happen at the end where he tries to prove that
49:17 hey i am actually the one you need to worship that whole stuff that happened back then that was all false and so yeah very interesting yeah i'm guessing that's in daniel i've definitely read that before it sounds like daniel where he talks about um everybody coming together and then basically turning on the religions to create one power because god puts it in their mind to do his will anyway um yeah so there's actually a quote in here i have them um tapped so this is a quote from the fiction book the first one um secret machine chasing shadow and this just kind of sums up what they are trying to share with this first book the story that they're pushing and so i'm just going to read it to you um it says why am i here alan said managing to dredge up a little defiance you know i didn't kill hatcher the man whom he was he not a thought believe his eyes falling on the book on the table he was bound with black leather something like that worn and cracked and when he flipped it open the pages were thin as snow and he was in his tissue and marked with slim gold ribbon tell me med tell me major he said absently are you religious alan blinked and tried to focus maybe he was already dreaming not really he said at last why what does any of this have to do with religion oh said the bald man looking up and smiling a cat-like grin that did not reach his eyes he pushed the book across the table where where alan could read the two words on its spine absolutely everything said the man tapping the book with his index finger the lettering on its spine said the odyssey by homer though perhaps myth is a better term than religion less loaded major young did you ever wonder how the apollo space program got its name alan blinked apollo was the sun god right and crossed the sky daily in a glittering chariot the guy agreed so so let's consider the possibility that the chariot was more than metaphorical let me get this straight said alan you're saying that the craft were flying were brought here by aliens which humans took to be the gods of ancient greece but they left and now we have their stuff in response to alan's contentious tone the man smiled but for a moment so long that it became uncomfortable he said nothing and just blinged at alan at last he opened his mouth but the eight the next eight words came out so low that alan had to strain to hear them what makes you think that they ever left and that's the end of the book so this idea yeah that these aliens have been along posing as you know the old gods of greece and rome and all these places that we we gotta ship them and that they're still here wow kind of massive yeah yeah i see the narrative that the lie let's just say it as it is the lie that's being pushed right now is uh i mean we we know that satan is on earth right now this is where he has called his home base to make his chaos throughout the whole universe and so and we know through roger marno who has talked to us about how spiritualism kind of went underground in the 1700s and hasn't i mean we're living in a society that we think is normal but right now everyone before us had some kind of some form of spiritualism that was very visible we don't and uh and i think it's fascinating because um that's all going to change and it's going to be absolutely crazy and so what he's saying is that they have we have had these aliens on earth and they've been here the whole time and we have their craft which we know is probably a complete deception which i i think that's that's so that's the narrative being pressed that's that's really fascinating thank you for that that's that's the narrative being pushed yeah so i have a couple of the quotes that i want to share too from the non-fiction book um it's actually quite a few but it shows uh what what they believe to be true because the non-fiction it says nothing about like fabrication or glue it's literally this is the research i've done this is from the words of peter levenda and um i will say it's very subtle in the very beginning of the book they're like
54:00 well here's an idea here's a theory and then they're like if if you can see how this is true and then in the end they're like oh absolutely this is the only thing logically to believe so yeah like the whole thing is kind of brainwashing again if you've never read the bible i could see how it could convince you of these things because it's very logical in that sense um but hogwash if you're a christian because you know it doesn't hold any light compared to the bible so it talks a lot about um the occult and how the occult has always been kind of shoved to this corner of fringe and information that was forbidden and what he claims is that the occult holds all the answers and now we're just finally realizing this and that we're now tapping into the knowledge that they've always kept again hogwash but from the words of peter levenda i'm an occult expert you know take it as you will but he says if ceremonial magic seems like a stretch rest assured because the government has been using every type of occultism parapsychology mediumship attempting to weaponize the psyche and understand the phenomenon it says the cia has a mission to uncover the secrets of the human mind for use in psychological warfare behavior modification and mind control or brainwashing and it says what we are attempting to do here is suggest a spiritualized refinement of those methods in order to maximize their benefit for the common good in terms of our proposed revolution and the sciences and culture so with all that he's just basically saying we're taking this old method that was called witchcraft that was you know not previously respected in any form and we're using it because well the government wants to and because we've seen that it works and we can brainwash people so why wouldn't we use it bad bad juju wow wow yeah i don't know what you want to take take from that but i thought it was interesting i have no words well that's i'm still thinking about that man it's so twisted i mean we know that peter levenda was was an occultist and and and uh saying that you know the occult has they have um the true wisdom i mean it takes us right back to the tree of knowledge of good and evil in genesis 3 where uh it is the tree of knowledge of good and evil which we learned and didn't have to and uh did we really want that knowledge i'd say there's some knowledge that we just don't need to have and so i think the the cult i don't want to i don't want anything to entice me to um to obtain knowledge as a christian so i think i'd i don't know i don't know i don't know i'd rather just uh believe that god knows the best for me that's all i'm going to say about that yeah agreed so here is something else that really um interests me and um i think you'll see the parallels and how it ties to the bible pretty quickly so chapter two is called the gate of the gods and um it's talking about how the earliest direct experience of the phenomenon was recorded in history was with the sumerians and they have what was called the gate of the gods and so it says when it comes to the phenomenon there are two circles one is the other world and the other one is this world and where they connect and overlap it says it's a really small area so kind of like a venn diagram you know you have one circle on one side one on the other and where they come together is what they have in common so it says the region um is the domain of the phenomenon called mesopotamia the gate of the gods or babylon oh so yeah yeah so what he's saying is that there's our world and then there's their world and where we come together and connect so where we can reach the other world is called the gate of the gods or also babylon i mean can you get more blatant yeah yeah it's like at the commonwealth games where they have that tower of babylon and they're they've got their crystals worshiping this beast it's like if you read your bible at all these are clear red flags like they're not hiding stuff and so he says you know yeah it's babylon but again he has the gnostic gospel view which is that our god is
59:03 the one that's holding us back the creator actually the gnostics actually what they say is that um there are multiple gods and that one calls himself the creator and that he is the one that wants to keep us you know in this box and that the liberator is the snake and that's the one who gives us the knowledge and the freedom and wants us to grow and evolve consciously into gods ourselves yeah which again no all gnostic you know that's true um so the gate of the gods i'm just going to read a little bit about this it says it may be actual in some sense we do not yet understand but was understood by the ancients and perhaps by those who have had some measure of contact today or it may be virtual and then he goes on to say it's likely a virtual gate that acts as a mental or psychological construct that mimes the action of the actual gate so all throughout his book again it's like this um he takes a theory or what he says is a theory and then he slowly releases information and then at the end he's like okay this is what it is so in the beginning he's like maybe it's this maybe it's that and here he's alluding to the fact that reaching the phenomenon or the the extraterrestrials the ufos whatever might be by your mind but then by the end of the book he's like okay this is what it is but he says oh absolutely this is all a conscious plane of you know working um yeah so let me find the next one that it goes right along with that okay so towards the end of the book he says travel to the stars is done through consciousness and it's talking about um yeah so he alludes to it and then he's like oh actually this is fact so throughout the book he goes through a lot of things and he's like oh this is a fact and then he's like oh this is a fact different cultures and different historical time periods of like alchemists and sorcerers and witches and indian tantrikas i don't even know how to say that um different cultures who all tried to use magic of some sort to reach the stars or to reach immortality and it says so it began the development of a technology for space travel predicated on the ability to reach the stars and immortality and it says so it began the development of a technology of human consciousness to do the heavy lifting so this is not a new phenomenon but it's as old as humanity's first contact with things not of this world and as such demonstrates the validity of our argument that at heart all religion is ufo religion wow so yeah so back to your thought about eventually there's going to come a modern religion that replaces modern religion that replaces modern religion that replaces modern religion that replaces all religion well he just says it outright all religion is really just ufo religion because the gods who drive these ufos are the ones that have given manner and all forms of religion that are available today hogwash yeah yeah and you know i've we've already have religions out there that are presenting themselves as ufo religions i mean we have the most notable one um is scientology i haven't even talked about that on this channel yet and then you have the ufo religion we have um uh the one we did a whole video on it was called um i guess i haven't talked about it for so long i can't remember the name of it but um oh it's gonna come in my head here the railions yeah very good there you go yeah the railions and uh who supposedly got their name from israel rail you know so it's it's interesting yeah and they've they all they all present themselves as ufo religions and they're saying in this book here that all religions are based off this and they're just off and they're just off and they're just off and they're just off and they're just off it sounds like it's somebody that's what he's trying to say i just don't understand yeah and again how the railings you know his name is israel so it's like they're trying to take some uh words that are all over the bible and say hey look we're all tied together it's all just the same thing it's terrible and so here's a couple more it says the secret machine of the human brain is a main contact point with the secret machines that continue to populate our skies so over and over again he just says that we contact these things through our mental facilities it's all consciousness and that's why in the okay okay that's interesting so the the namesake of the
1:03:55 book is secret machines so uh and so he's saying that the secret machines is paralleled as you do ufos secret machines are also in your head so your your secret machine right here is consciousness that that is able to do much more than just the secret machines and so he's saying that the secret machines are able to do much more is that that's what he's saying right yeah absolutely he said that they're connected and um because he follows the new age uh theories and understandings he's constantly saying that the more that you open your consciousness the more power you have and eventually you can open it enough that you become just as advanced as the technology that you're seeing in the skies so again that whole you can become god just coming back um so this is to follow up on that last quote it says the next step in our evolutionary path which includes contact deliberate cautious and consciously controlled contact with the gods of our alien genesis so he's saying if we want to evolve as humanity we have to be cautious and consciously controlled but we need to be communicating with the gods of our alien genesis see there you go that's interesting too because what this so he said not only say the first part again not only do we have to communicate with these things but we have to what it says um it's that this is the next step of our evolutionary path so in order for humanity to continue to evolve that's one of the things that he says throughout the books um in in the fiction and non-fiction is this idea that when the ufos show up to humankind they're kind of like a um a way to get humanity to take one step further into technology so you know when ufos first showed up they looked very different back then than they do today and the idea is that the alien gods are trying to help us evolve that's the whole point of of what they're doing supposedly so when they first showed up it it looked very different than you know i don't know like a blimp or something or like a you know not even as technical as a plane and so it helped them expand their minds into thinking well how can we make a plane and then you know on it the the form of the ufos are changing and so now they're saying ufos that we see now are teaching us that there's capability of opening up your mind and doing things you know telekinetically or telepathically through your brain and um i see you know i see inklings of of of a false revival happening here and uh where where people uh start communicating with these things and things start happening um and not only that but that is what we say at the very end of starfall is that the whole whole goal of these things seems to be you know hey come out and contact us and and when we contact us as soon as we have direct communication it's over i mean that's that's what happened the tree of knowledge and good and evil as soon as they started talking to eve done i mean the the the the deception went so fast after that so that's interesting that that they're asking us over and over again contact us yeah you need to contact that's the next step all you got to do is just reach out to us and and then uh you could have everything right so i actually have a really great quote to further what you just said and this was the um towards the end of the book and so this kind of summed up a lot of what he was trying to say throughout the book but it says okay so it's talking about how the ufo contact and sightings first showed up on the scene and it says um the more formal initiatory groups are predicated on the safety of ubd participants how the ufo contact findings first showed up on the scene and it says the more formal initiatory groups are predicated on his deficiency and if a guard predicated on what his ability to defeat the wrath of causes the episode i kind of got the idea on the belief that the sightings and experiences can be deliberately courted if not caused so he's saying that um a lot of these things um they can be deliberately caused so so initially in the book he's saying that he just like flipped the whole switch so what he was saying initially was that ufos show up with no rhyme or reason we don't know you know other than to help technology keep advancing nobody's asking for them to come but then he flips the switch here that the script here and he says that now they believe that they're deliberately caused so he says here this
1:08:47 is an aspect of the phenomenon that is largely unnoticed because of the assumption that ufo contact and spiritual contact are fundamentally different and the historical proof that he uses it says that there was a mass kalakakra initiation where hundreds of thousands of people were practicing yoga and meditation and um they all did it together so it was like the initiation into whatever belief system this is kalakakra um and this was back in history so it says these hundreds of thousands of people were practicing yoga and meditation to um as part of their initiation into this belief system and this began in the same era as the modern ufo sightings so it says that they've been manifesting an appearance of the ufos in the sky through their meditation which again it just goes to say what you've been saying that they're asking for these things to come so what are you saying here is that there were thousands of people meditating doing yoga and meditation which we know i mean it opens your mind you're supposed to still your mind so that your content is still alive and you're able to do yoga and meditation which we know i mean it opens your mind you're supposed to still your mind so that your consciousness can open in ways it's never done before and then boom now they have the beginning of all these mass modern uo sightings so to say that it's happened by chance is kind of a big leap of faith yeah but it's interesting to me that he he ties yoga meditation and all these things with the ufos but he says all religion is ufo religion so i guess they're just you know calling out in their own way fascinating because there is something to spirituality i mean even christian understanding of spirituality the more uh you know jesus said two more gathered there i am and uh um we we need to come together and pray more often the more people that are praying you can i mean prayer moves the hand of god and so it makes sense that satan wants that counter like he wants a following he wants a church of himself and uh if you have enough people that are in one area that have this you know they're going to follow that path um you know god's gentleman he's going to say okay if you guys want what what's coming i'm not going to stop you but um he's going to allow it so we serve a loving god and he's he's not going to stop what um what someone desires if they really desire it even if it's not best for them fascinating yeah there's a scripture that you made me think of i don't know the reference but it says that they will be you know handed over to their own delusions yeah so there's a point where where god allows them to go so far they're they're in this delusion but they're not reaching out for god by any means they're reaching out for you know these false gods and so he says well you've gone so far i'm just going to hand you over to it that's what you want it's yours second thessalonians 2. yep yep second thessalonians 2 around 10 or something yeah i mean didn't mean to catch you off keep going that's okay no it just goes to show you following god there's danger huge danger in it and when we're not seeking truth through god we're gonna find lies and they're gonna be destructive so you know be careful with what you read and what you consider as truth and be careful you know god says to read his word and be in his word and that's our protection from the fiery darts of deception and from the enemy so his word and uh using the sword of the spirit which is the word of god then we're gonna be led into deception again like these books are very convincing if you don't know what the word of god says so um i'm thankful to bring some of this to light so that hopefully others can you know steer clear of the nonsense absolutely yeah and i i think i think this is a it's a dangerous thing and if you don't know your bible you'll be in trouble taken in and uh and deceived by it just like you said that's really interesting do you do you have anything else or do you is your time up i mean it's okay if it is i do have one more that i think it goes back into uh sorry it's hard to read and talk it goes back into the spiritualism and the state of the dead oh interesting okay from the non-fiction i feel like it's just good
1:13:28 to have quotes to prove that this is actually what he's trying to say yeah um yeah i think i got the rest of them yeah so so here's a quote from the non-fiction and it talks about the tie between um the phenomenon and the state of the dead it says there are present stories that alien entities have the ability to heal humans from sickness or even bring humans back from the dead says it was ann streber the wife of an alien abductor d william streber who noticed a weird correlation between experiences of alien contact and the presence of the dead having the dead appear along aliens during a contact experience seems to indicate a post-death existence of some kind if there is existence of identity after death then perhaps space travel holds the key that unlocks the elixir of life the phenomena of global programs for space exploration is the modern version of pyramid building and then he goes on to talk about how um building of the pyramids was the egyptian way of reaching immortality so he's saying now the way we find immortality is through space exploration interesting huh huh i never thought about that so space exploration is our pyramid of today is that's what i'm gonna have to dwell on that for a little bit wow that's interesting um wow so okay so he's he's absolutely saying right there that that we're trying to um build ourselves into an idea that um that we can be immortal which is the exact same lie that snake eve was saying you can be as god knowing good and evil yeah fascinating yeah and the part that like spoke to me is where he says that uh having the dead appear alongside aliens during contact experience seems to indicate a post-death existence so he's just going on and saying the opposite of what the bible says you know you say it all the time on here the dead know nothing and there's so many scriptures that go along and say the same thing yeah after the grave they do not return to their home um the old testament and the new testament are filled with them so he's saying that showing that the dead up here with the aliens proves existence after death job 1412 a man lies down and does not rise till the heavens are no more first theslonians 4 16 17 the lord himself would descend from heaven with a shout and the dead in christ will rise how are they rising unless they're dead uh and thus we shall be with the lord forever and after death a person returns to the dust psalms 104 knows nothing Ecclesiastes 9.5 possesses no mental powers Psalms 146.4 has nothing to do with anything on earth which is Ecclesiastes 9.6 does not live 2 Kings 21 waits in the grave Job 17.13 does not continue Job 14.1 and 2 and we're even told that David who was said to be you know a man of God that we will assume to be in heaven it says he's not he's in his grave yeah so I think this the Bible is very clear except for a couple strange stories but it's that they're parables they're fiction and I think it's fascinating to see that the occult is absolutely saying the exact opposite which we expect what was that? I heard a dog that's my dog that's the garage opening she's sounding the alarm it's over well I guess you gotta go but I really do appreciate it and I thank you so much unless you have something last to say before you go I'm sure yeah thanks for having me on here it's nice to spread the truth in a small way and I know your channel does that in a huge way every week so it was nice to use my my nerdy reading skills to help out of it very good thank you so much Wendy I really appreciate it and we'll have you back on here sometime yeah sounds good Brad we'll see you