0:04 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.
1:05 The mission of NASA is to find out what the objects are. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. Saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Bill, I want you to stop doing this. I said, OK, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately?
1:59 And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God, always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as we see these as we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confuse Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship. There was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky. And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere.
2:54 And then they on the morning, they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experience, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and over 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the US Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively. I I started to have these follow on experiences.
3:53 I started to have these follow on experiences. I started to have these follow on experiences. But the phenomenon that was like the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night because my job was classified and I had access to classified, I was kind of aware this was not a one off event for the Navy. This these things happen frequently, all the time. They happen all the time. Barbara Bethalick. Whitley Striever. Both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative. In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I was involved with occult practices.
5:02 I was involved with occult practices. I was involved with occult practices. I was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade and after my conversion, if you will, I felt it, I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back and it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a? To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding. Yeah. That's my understanding of ghosts, any, anything of that kind of story. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the gospel of Luke and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy.
6:05 So we need to know what. The truth is what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days and define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us with separately without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Right. Since this is out, it's in Congress and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the, I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system.
6:57 It's different than a religion, but it's religious like. What they're seeing in the sky today is what they believe to be like advanced technology. Whereas a thousand years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel or maybe that's a demon. Today, they look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people. Almost like a religious conversion experience. It changes their worldview. It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally completely changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. My name is Tom DeLonge.
7:53 Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the, the term UFO is a little bit different. The term, the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon than and that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions.
8:45 And the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man. Period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. We've passed the 11 minute mark. Now T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome. And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning.
9:39 But there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed. It is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases. Of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence.
10:34 The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him. He would bring up that last card. And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. Are there other religions, I'm curious David, that you know of in all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea? Yeah.
11:23 I would say there are. You know, Hindus and Buddhists, you know, Tibetans and whatnot. The idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that. I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs. Particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition, they have UFOs. UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican. Two is that UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years. Mormons as well believe in extraterrestrial life. And I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets.
12:13 You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help you God. You are saying. To the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the US government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone. Absolutely. The data points empirically that we're not alone. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found after interviewing myself and the subjects and other subjects that I'm not even aware of. They found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a nonhuman intelligence?
13:17 Well, I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal the truth. I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal certain US classified operations. I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of nonhuman intelligence on this planet. Certainly. I would couch it as nonhuman intelligence, you know, NHI, like we would like to say in our language. Why do you say that? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Who in the government, either what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting?
14:11 And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding what programs are happening and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, I think they are very real, but I think what is your idea of reality? That's the question. You see that the DOD and NASA even, they're all hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue. And that's not where the truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, philosophy, religious studies.
15:11 That's where you're going to find the truth of this. But I don't think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people call humans. I think they're called angels. I think they're messengers. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. We're now passing the 4 minute 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high-powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And the priest told us... Could I have a little bit more of your time? I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says the grand plan for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil.
16:06 And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grand plan, he says, is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff. Because he says spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies. That are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet. Unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. It was a big thing that was coming up. One of the major deceptions of the last days. Good evening, good evening. This is going to be a great episode. We got lots of stuff. Real bangers right at the end. Or at the beginning and the end. It's going to be very, very interesting. We're talking a lot about the news. We're talking a lot about what's going on currently.
16:53 We're also talking about getting into the lore a little bit. And seeing what some people that are really leading this really truly believe about this topic. Stay tuned. T minus three minutes and counting. T minus three. We are go with all elements of the mission at this time. We just passed the two minute mark on the countdown. T minus one minute, 54 seconds and counting. All indications coming in to the control center at this time. Indicate we are go. Guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds. Leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds.
19:02 T minus 60 seconds and counting. We passed T minus 60. Our mysteries to the universe we were never meant to solve. But who we are and why we are here are not among them. Ignition sequence five. Six, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome, welcome back to Strange Normal.
20:12 My name is Bradley. And we talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life. To give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. Because there's tons of things going on right now. And you need to be informed about what those things are. So what we do on this channel, we go over the news. We go over what is happening currently. Relative podcasts. Sometimes we get into things that have happened a long time ago. But not this episode. Because there's so much happening in these last couple weeks. Maybe even this last week. That we have to catch everything. We have to catch everyone up tonight. So this is going to be quite the fire of an episode. Because we're going to look at things that you have not seen before. So before I do get into that. I want to bring in our guest tonight. Hello. Let me say hello to. We've had you on before, Sarah.
20:58 Correct? Yes. And welcome, welcome back. Hello. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you guys doing? Very good. And Matthew, are you there? Yeah. We're getting started early tonight, Brad. That's all good. It's all good. We only need to hear you. Well, here's the fun fact of my intro. I installed some brand new firmware. Thinking this has got to be it. This will take care of the camera issues. Because I've tried everything. I've gone through it all. And the only thing that's left is sending it back. And getting a new camera. Which I will be doing this next week. Thank you everyone for bearing with me. But we've got a new one coming. Coming out. And it's going to be great. It's all good. It's all good. We see your face.
21:45 And we hear your voice. So that's all we need right now. Let's get into it. This is going to be very interesting tonight. Because I found just a treasure trove of stuff that happened this week. And I'm just like, my mind's blowing. I haven't even got it onto the Discord yet. Because I just found it just today. So first, let's get into some interesting stuff that happened. In the news. So this is from... Oh, I don't have my laptop here. I was going to show you. I'll bring it up on the screen. So I'll put this link in the footage. So you can go to it. But this is from dailymail.co.uk. I'm going to read it to you guys. And then I'll show you the video that's on there. It says, a disc-shaped... Oh my. Well, I'm glad I don't have it on the screen. The ads are terrible. Disc-shaped, completely silent UFO was caught on camera. This is from DailyMail.co.uk. I'm going to read it to you guys. And then I'll show you the video that's on there. It says, a disc-shaped... Oh my. Well, I'm glad I don't have it on the screen.
22:32 The ads are terrible. Disc-shaped, completely silent UFO was caught on camera in the Ukraine. Troops in the war-torn country in footage shared exclusively with dailymail.com. They said... And then they go into this and they say exactly what the Ukrainians are saying. I'm just going to go ahead and play the video because it's a little more obvious in the video what's going on. They are just exclaiming over this stuff. And they don't have anything to say. They don't have any clue what they're seeing. I'm going to also translate it because I don't know Ukraine, but the internet does. Ukrainian, I mean. Watch this. Let's see if I can play it here. . . . . . . . . . .
23:22 . . . . . . . Oh, God. So, what did they say just now? Let me bring it back to everyone since I know you guys know Ukrainian. Can you tell me what he said? I'm kidding. Wow, look at the disc. . I'm telling you, it's a UFO. It's standing still, one of them said. The other guy said, zoom in more, zoom in more. It's standing still. Do you see it? The other guy said, can't see anything on the thermal cameras. Maybe ram it. . So, just run into it. I don't know what it is. So they're having all kinds of issues over there. And these guys are the guys that have seen this stuff over and over again. And they've not seen this stuff over and over again, but they've seen normal things out there.
24:11 So if they see something absurd, they're going to say, you know, this is unusual. What is going on here? And so this has been, this is, what do they say, broken the internet because the guys over there have filmed this and they're wondering what's going on. And I don't try to put things out on this channel unless mainstream media has talked a little bit about it, unless it's in a podcast or one of the people in the podcast have been in the mainstream media and we're trying to figure out exactly what they're talking about. That way we don't get, you know, putting out things that aren't even real. But this has been something that I've been watching for a few days and it's been out in the mainstream. And I think it's interesting that they're saying, this is even, is coming out more and more. And even in... If, and I've said this before, even if it's not real, it can be used to further this message. And that's essentially what's happening. So even if it's not real. We have other footage as well.
25:12 But before I go into that, do you have any thoughts on this? Either one of you. Nothing profound. So is this going to be more footage of the same incident? No. Actually, we got some other footage that has been out on the internet for quite a while. And it hasn't been deemed fake. And so I'm going to kind of show that. Usually we don't do that on this channel. I'm going to venture out a little bit further and say, let's look at some of this stuff. Just so we get an idea of what we're actually looking at when we're talking about this stuff. Right. Because there are people who, this is their religion. Every time a UFO video drops, whether it's legitimate or it's just total fabrication, that's what they're into. This is what they want. So what else have you got here?
26:01 That last one too, was that a military or civilian drone that was in the air? Probably a mix of both, right? Well, yeah. They were asking, what was it? They said, it's not moving and it's not making any sounds. We don't know what this thing is, essentially, what they were saying there. And they weren't sure what it was. But that was previously. And there's other footage. That has been out on the internet for quite a while. That, actually, this next one is from MSN.com. MSN, Microsoft Network. That's been around for a long time. You think that's more of a legit news source. What do you call legit? I mean, because you never know. Everything's propaganda nowadays. But let's just go with the idea of mainstream media. It has something to say. They might look into it a little further.
26:53 At least maybe they have the resources to. This says, military officials break their silence on UFO interfering with missile. So this is a theory, a video, that has been recreated and shown many times on the internet. And it's not, it's a 3D recreation. But there is legitimate video out there talking about this. And recently, this week or last, I think this is from last week, the military officials, and they named them in this article, have come out and said, this is something that we should look into. This is a legit video. Let me read about it. Let me read it real quick. The U.S. military is in possession of a video of a UFO apparently disabling a nuclear warhead during a routine test, according to multiple former officials. They claim the video in question captured a saucer-shaped craft circling the unarmed dummy warhead shortly after it detached from the Atlas missile booster, then shooting four beams of light.
27:55 This is on mainstream media. What is going on here? This is on mainstream media. This is on mainstream media. This is on mainstream media. Four beams of light at the warhead disabling it. Retired U.S. Air Force officers Lieutenant Bob Jacobs and Major Florence Mansman, boy, he's a man's man, claimed to have viewed, M-A-N-S-M-A-N-N. I mean, yeah, that's his name. Claimed to have viewed the recording of the 1964 encounter before the tape went missing. Boy, the mainstream media has become the tabloids now, but the tabloids are not. The tabloids are becoming real life, so I don't know what to think about this. So, I dug into, and that's what brings me to the two videos that I want to talk about later, or right now, actually. These two next videos have been out for a while, and you tell me in the comments if you have any legitimate resources that say that these are debunked, because I don't think they are.
28:53 So, I'm going to go ahead and play them for you, this next one. Let's see if I got that on the right one. Oh, is this the right one? Yeah, this is it. Okay. Check this out. What do you think about this? Play. Oh, it's a beautiful sound, huh? I'm going to go back real quick to that. I'm going to play it just a little bit more, and I'm going to turn down that sound, because I didn't realize it was going to do that. But I want to do a little commentary over this thing. Go back and play again. Okay, play. So, look at these things. This is what they commonly say when they say a UFO. These things are going back and forth. They're not flares. They look like they're flying over each other. You can see the stars in the background look totally different. They're very high up there. They don't look like they're very close to the ground.
30:07 They're going behind the clouds, even. And they're beams, I mean, objects of light. And in this next video, this is fascinating, because this is another one they say that has not been debunked. This is from a documentary of a guy. He went out early in the morning. And look at these beams of light going, or these dots going around. And all of a sudden, you're seeing these things happen on the actual... Bertie told me that you had a brief thing with Mr. Gates. I'm going to pause it here, because now it's just going to play through everything. But these things are what people see when they're thinking about these UFOs. They say, what is that, this guy? They're not really thinking, hey, maybe it's a random cylindrical object or a flying saucer. Usually what they see are...
30:59 So it's really fascinating to see these type of videos happening right here. And this really adds a little bit of credibility. I'm not going to say too much about it, but it adds a little bit of credibility to the idea that some, at least some of these crop circles might be something that is just playing around with us. And to further the message, I don't know. I'm not going to go as far as to say that, because maybe that video might get debunked. But it's really fascinating, because it's obvious this is taken... This was an old video, that crop circle one, was an old video that was taken a long time ago with those VHS cameras that you can zoom in and zoom out, you know, with the big tape in the side. And so, what... There's no VFX back then. That was... You could overlay stuff, but it wasn't as it is now. You could do it in After Effects or something. So those are the interesting videos that have been out, and that a lot of the lore refers back to.
31:57 When they talk about these UFOs. Any comments on those things before I go on? The extremely loud video, it just looks like five balls of light that are tied together. It looks like separate, like not just one thing, but separate. You know, whether or not it's legitimate, it just, that's what it looks like to me, like, just all tied together. And the other thing, if that's real, that's pretty crazy. How those are made. Makes a lot of sense. A lot more sense than, you know, other things. Yeah. Yeah, they did appear to be disjointed there. I could see why, if they were flying in like a certain fixed formation, people would think, oh, this is one craft. But I think the shift of the perception is that anytime you see an orb, now you know that's an individual, I don't know, whatever.
32:52 Well, if it's the legitimate thing, we know what it is. But it could be, you know, people messing around with drones, or whatever nowadays. There's a lot of people who have access to drones, really, really good drones, high-tech drones. That's why I was asking about that Ukrainian video, to see if it was from a civilian, because I know that part of their war effort is that people who just, whatever, had drones that they were using for wedding photography, now they're using it for reconnaissance and surveillance purposes. So seeing something like that and just racing across the sky, it really does. Get that seed in your mind. We're dealing with something that has a far greater capability than us. And for a long time, it's just been this technological angle. But now that they're introducing this whole new element of interdimensional beings, non-human intelligences, it's becoming a lot more something that's innate, something that isn't necessarily a technological advantage that they have, but a power in and of themselves.
33:58 So that they're able to enact. Right. It's incredible to see what is going on right now, what's coming upon the world. I think we'll just astonish people. The great delusion, if you will. More than that, if you don't think we've lost our senses already tonight, we're going to get even into some... You think the mainstream media is going to lose it? If I've displayed that from MSN, Daily Mail, now we're going to go... And we're going to go to Askapole. Askapole is this guy who goes out and he asks a politician. You can pay him to go ask a politician the question. And just recently, it came out in the media and on some podcast, it was leaked, that apparently there is some classified footage that was showed to Anna... I'm going to mess her name up if I don't look. Anna Paulina Luna, which is also working with Burchette, on trying to get the government to stop giving money to these programs that they say are working to do stuff behind the scenes.
35:06 So, I can't even say it. I'm just going to play the video. It's just too wild. Watch what he says here, because this, I think, is more information about this stuff, whether it's legit or not, is coming out this week. Bertie told me that you had a briefing with Mr. Gates and you saw bodies? Yes. Discuss these things. You know that. Was that classified? I'm sure we'll have field hearings. No comment. No comment? It's intriguing. Have a good one, ma'am. So, obviously, she can't say anything about it. I'm just going to give you the news and get back to talking. Because I don't know what's going on here, but we know that there's going to be major deceptions in the last days showing things that we, as Christians, know aren't legit. That's it. There is absolutely a physical deception that is able to manifest through the dark, dark realms that are trying to deceive us.
36:10 And so, what does that all mean? Well, it means that when you go get your hair cut, you're going to have some very strange things to talk about. When you go to church, you're going to have to explain why now the government has been keeping ships and alien bodies. Nothing has been seen. I want to make sure that everyone understands that. This might not come into no fruition at all, but at least this is what the internet is talking about right now. And so, I thought it would be important to at least get us caught up to date on what is happening so no one's completely taken off guard when something might happen like this. That said, any comments before we go into the meat of our discussion tonight? I just found it interesting. For her to say no comment, it's either she saw something or she wants people to think that she saw something.
37:07 Because otherwise, why wouldn't you just say no? Right. No, bodies, what are you, crazy? You know, like, just to leave it open, it has to be something to that. I felt the same way. In fact, when I was listening to a podcast, this Ask a Poll guy, that's the name of his program, his company. He said, that was... By far, the most interesting part of the whole thing is that she didn't go out and immediately try to correct him and say exactly what you said. Say, you're crazy. Why would you even say that? And so, the fact that she says, no, we'll have field hearings about this. I can't talk about it. I can't talk about that. I don't know. Just want to get that out there. Matthew, any thoughts before we move? Yeah. It's the ever-changing way that this topic is approached. It's just like Sarah said.
38:01 Back, I don't even know, probably a decade ago, maybe even less than that, if someone was asking a politician questions about, have you seen alien bodies recently? They would be laughed at. And they'd say, no, of course not. I'm far too busy with my congressional duties to be staring at alien bodies. They'd give you some type of snide remark, but now it's changing to no comment. I think we're just starting to see, the legitimizing of the idea, it's kind of been perpetuating over the past couple of years, and it's got to come to fruition. It has to be taken more and more seriously until eventually that fateful day when they break the biggest news that humanity has ever heard before. And it's going to be pretty wild at that point.
38:56 Absolutely. And can you go into what you're thinking, your theory about this whole, I'm calling it yours, but I think a lot of people have kind of figured this out too, about the physical nature of these things and how that's biblical? Oh, yes. We can talk about that a little bit, right? Well, it's just that in the Bible, I looked and I wanted to see, is there any accounts of a physical miraculous manifesting that took place by Satan and his fallen angels and the Bible? The best argument that I could put forth would be found in Exodus when Pharaoh's magicians are capable of copying the miracles of God. And it doesn't say that it was done by sleight of hand. It doesn't say through trickery. The Bible is usually pretty specific about what, if something has happened, they say something.
39:48 Even if it's just one word, it appeared that a serpent, it appeared they had turned their rods into serpents. But no, it just says like they did this. This is what happened. They turned it into a serpent. It went from a non-organic thing to a living serpent there. And I don't know the mechanics, but clearly they were capable of pulling that off. So I don't think it's beyond Satan, especially with the help of earthly agents. We're talking, there's some weird stuff that goes on, splicing of DNA. They call them chimeras. It's not like the most mainstream topic. Every once in a while, it kind of makes its way out into the mainstream. But they're doing weird stuff. And I think that a convincing kind of organic material could be put forward, whether that be through human ingenuity or just straight out something that the dark powers are capable of putting forth for humanity.
40:45 So that it just benefits their deception more greatly to have that physical proof. Yeah, I agree. They can't do everything. But they can. They can do some things. I mean, we know that Satan can't create life, but he can definitely puppet it and puppet something that makes it look like life. And so I think that's absolutely what we saw with the snakes and the deception in Egypt. And I absolutely think that what we saw will be, if there is bodies, it'll definitely what I call meat puppets of some kind. Sorry, I love that phrase. It makes me giggle every time. Meat puppets. And the thing, what really, really tickles me is that God's snake consumed two of Lucifer's snakes. That just, I love it. Right. As eventually, anything they want to put forth for this deception, any amount of craft or bodies or what have you, will also be consumed.
41:53 It's going to be consumed by fire. And that's another ironic thing. It just goes, it's funny, you point that out, and it's even those little parallels that you can draw. It's like, what happened to those snakes? Well, they're consumed by the snake from God. What does it say about our God? He's a consuming fire. What does it say eventually will happen to sin and wickedness? It will be consumed by the lake of fire. And Jesus' second coming is a fiery second coming that the elements are going to burn up and be consumed. So again, this is reading the Bible in light of the bigger picture. Because I think that God is always pointing to the eventualities, as well as being able to greater explain those eventualities in smaller details. So you can kind of look at them and the stories of the Bible are great. It's a good observation.
42:44 Absolutely. You know, speaking of that and the fire from God, and we actually do a fireside chat where we talk a little bit about that. And at the beginning of it, the two minute intro, we show those verses from the Bible that talk about how God is a consuming fire. And He wants to make us fireproof, essentially. Everyone will be in that part of that fire. And whether or not you want to be burned up because you are sinful, or you want to be covered in the righteousness of Christ is up to you. And so I actually went through and I was reading this last week, actually just yesterday, about some different interesting things I found in Ellen White's writings, Bible commentary. I'm a Seventh-day Adventist. I follow her writings pretty closely. And I just want to read some of that from there just for a moment, because I think it's really fascinating to realize what the end is like according to what she says and according to what the Bible says, because ultimately what she's reading is the Bible expounding upon it, with a third-grade education.
43:49 These word pictures are amazing. So listen to this. As if entranced, the wicked have looked upon God, upon the coronation of the Son of God. They see in his hands the tables of the divine law and the statutes which they have despised and transgressed. Sinners. They witness the outburst of wonder, rapture, and adoration from the saved. And as a wave of melody sweeps over the multitudes without the city, outside the city, the sinners, all with one voice exclaim, God and marvelous, great and marvelous, are thy works, O Lord Almighty. Just and true are thy ways. Thou King of saints. Revelation 15, 3. And falling prostrate, they worship the Prince of life. We know that. That the sinful, everyone will worship God before the fall, before the wicked are consumed.
44:46 Every knee shall bow, every tongue shall confess, the Bible says, right? So it says, it goes on and says, Satan. Now it talks about Satan specifically. This is just amazing. Satan seemed apparent. Satan seemed paralyzed as he beheld the glory and majesty of Christ. He who was once covered, a covering cherub, remembers whence he had fallen. A shining seraph, son of the morning. How changed. How degraded from the council where once he was honored. He is forever excluded. He sees another now standing near the Father, veiling his glory. He has seen the crown placed upon his head of Christ by the angel of lofty stature and majestic presence.
45:32 And he knows that the exalted position of the angel might have been his. I'm going to jump down a little bit. This is fascinating because this is what happens to the wicked after that. Notwithstanding, Satan has constrained to acknowledge that God's justice and to bow to the supremacy of Christ. His character remains unchanged. The spirit of rebellion, like a mighty torrent, again bursts forth, filling with frenzy. He determines not to yield to the great controversy. The time has come for a last desperate struggle against the King of Heaven. He rushes into the midst of the subjects and endeavors to inspire them with his own fury and arouse them to instant battle. So he's about to take the city. He wants to take the sands of the sea. He's ready for them to just come to him.
46:22 He jumps in the middle of them and says, now is the time. We take the city. But all of the countless millions who he allured into rebellion, there are none now to acknowledge his supremacy. His power is at an end. The wicked are filled with the same hatred of God that inspired Satan. But they see that their case is hopeless. They cannot prevail against Jehovah. Their rage is kindled against Satan. And those who have been his agents in deception. And with the fury of demons, they turn upon them. Whoa! And so fire comes down from God. The earth is broken up. The weapons concealed in its depths are drawn forth. Devouring flames burst from every yawning chasm.
47:12 Boy, I've never used that word before. The very rocks are on fire. The day has come that shall burn as an oven. The elements burn with fervent heat. And it goes on and on and talks about that. And we all know about that, because every Christian religion talks a lot about hellfire. But I don't want to dwell too much upon that, because it's a very sad thing to be lost in that group. But it is amazing to realize, and this is why I pointed out, that Revelation 16, when we're talking about the three frogs, which I go in more detail in the documentary that I'm sure most people on this channel have seen, Starfall, those spirits that go out to the kings of the earth and to the whole world to gather the people in for the great day of God Almighty, that great day of God Almighty, the big battle is not the third coming. Because this is talking about the third coming. Everyone turns on Satan. So, the great day of God Almighty is the second coming of Christ. And so, you have all these stuff, all this stuff that's happening right now, and the battle that is raised against Christ is happening and is going to happen, I believe, in our lifetime.
48:29 And if you look into the news, it's happening right now. All the news, all the people, everyone's preparing space for war. We got Space Force that's going out to monitor everything that's happening. And I realize I'm monologuing here, but I'm really amazed by this. You're weaponizing space in order to prevent, you know, putting nuclear weapons up there. That's what's been talked about by, what's it called, Russia right now and why the United States is so concerned about that. What do you think the ultimate goal here is? Do you think the ultimate goal is to, so we can nuke ourselves? No, the ultimate goal, Satan's spiritual goal, is so that he can do battle or at least show who's on the side of us. Because really, we can't destroy God.
49:16 So, what's the purpose here? So, anyway, I'm going to digress for a moment. What are you guys' thoughts on this as we, before we move into the meat of our program? I'm going to go with you first, Sarah. Well, it's strange because I know that when Jesus has to do that, he's going to be doing it with tears in his eyes. Yeah. And it's going to be awful because not everybody is going to accept the free gift. And they'll choose to hold on to their sin and, you know, sin cannot exist in the presence of God. Like, just being close, people will burn away like stubble. But on the other hand, I'm extremely excited. And it's kind of hard to be like, I can't wait for the world to end, but also, you know, but also be like, try to, you know, talk people into, I don't know, it's really hard because I want people to be saved.
50:14 But I also really look forward to, I look forward to that time because right after that is when things finally are good. Yeah, I agree. Matthew, are you frozen? That's okay. My camera is frozen. My mouth still works. I can still speak into this microphone that is functioning very well. Space Force. Remember Space Force? Everybody laughed about Space Force. Haha. They made a Netflix series about Space Force lampooning it. Steve Carell was in it and everything. It was a real hoot, a real riot. But I've been seeing mentions of Space Force pop up here and there as these rumors of war, the World War III, have been circulating.
51:01 All of a sudden Space Force is being taken a bit more seriously and they're managing vulnerabilities in the satellite networks and things that are beyond Earth and beyond Earth's orbit. So having more investment there, more activity, and more eyes in the skies, I think that's just going to lend because a lot of the stuff that we see that seems credible comes out of the military. And I think that's how the public is going to actually accept some of this stuff. It's not necessarily going to be a guy in his backyard who got the film or whatever. It's going to be trusted military officials who are trained and proficient in their own areas coming forward and saying, this is not of Earth origin or this is a non-human intelligence. Confirmed. There is no other way. And we've collaborated with other Space Force agencies because it's that serious. And that is going to give it some of the credibility that I think it needs.
52:08 It's through a military angle. Right. Yeah, 100%. Military angle is, that's how this whole thing is going to come down. Absolutely. I totally get what you're saying. It's fascinating to see not only the military talking about this, but also other people talking about this, specifically people that have been pushing this agenda for a long time. I'm speaking directly about Tom DeLonge, who we're going to be talking about next. Tom DeLonge has kind of disappeared from the picture. We talked about him at the beginning of this channel for a year, for maybe about a year. But he kind of went off the map because after he started something called To The Stars, this company that he originally was using to push this idea forward with his books and stuff, he vanished. And from what I understand from reading and listening to a couple of podcasts, the reason why he vanished is because the idea he had was to procure some interesting elements for private investors to start using.
53:10 But the powers that control this stuff were not happy with him. And that got changed. And so he's back now after a year of silence with his podcast. He actually put one out just last week. And I was curious what he had to say because after his complete silence for a year, he's got to come back with a bang. And sure enough, he talked a lot about the religious idea of this thing. Oh boy. Let me go back to my script. Make sure we're actually going to talk about him next. Good. We are. That's what's queued up. All right. So listen to this. This is just the intro about how he grew up and his religious background. This is kind of fascinating. And then we're going to talk a little bit about it. I might play two clips at the same time. But let's go with religion a little bit. How does this all play with science and consciousness?
54:01 How are you putting this together? Well, I grew up like my mom tried to force everyone in the family to be within her beliefs. She was a Christian. And so I had to go to church like three times a week. And you learn some great values. And you learn your kind of first introductory lessons into spirituality. Whatever that means is different for everybody. But you just know that there's something outside the physical senses necessarily. Not all the time. But what happened was is when I got into UFOs, you go down a lot of rabbit holes. And it kept leading me back to spirituality and consciousness became a fundamental reason why they're here. So religion was a primary reason why he thought that they were here. That's interesting. What's the next thing he has to say about this? Let's listen. There's some reason why, to me, I'm not saying everyone will believe this and I know it gets tricky territory, but it always seemed to me that all the religions of the world were saying the same thing and having the same UFO experiences.
54:58 So for me, my experiences growing up in religion and then, you know, my band played in the Middle East for the troops. And I remember looking around all these dudes in robes, you know, with like the headdress. And they just looked at me like I was like the infidel, like tattoos everywhere and dirty clothes. And I know you travel these places much more than I have. But the first thing that struck me was these guys don't give a fuck about what religion I was born into and learned about. Because theirs is older and they have their own situation. So I kind of started looking for the patterns that exist in all of them. Okay. So that's kind of just in the beginning of what he's going to talk about. He's saying, number one, he says he doesn't trust any religion. He's going to go back and look at what has happened throughout all religions and then kind of piece it together and call that the truth.
55:47 I'm going to call that the the democratic system of religion. Not that it has anything to do with Democrats, but it has, but that it's, your vote is based on what the populace thinks. It's a theological quilt is what he's stitching together. Right. There's a patch here and a patch there. And what agrees with this? What is the same shade of color here? Sounds drafty. Yeah, very. This is one of those things that Satan set up for a long time. He's been working to deceive humanity at large for thousands and thousands of years and has laid out all these breadcrumbs so that people with itching ears and a desire for a greater truth, a hidden truth, like he said, can be saved.
56:37 Oh, I went to church. My mom dragged me to church or whatever. It was a great introduction into spirituality, but I knew there was so much more. It's the people who come and they see Jesus standing before them in the gospels and they don't take any notice of him. Oh, this guy cast out a legion of demons into a herd of swine and they ran off a cliff into the water. Yeah, we'd prefer if you left. We don't want anything to do with you. We don't. They hear a story. They hear an account of him and they're not interested in him. It's like, okay, whatever you're doing, it's weird. There's something spiritual going on here, but we don't want anything to really do with it. There's more to this matter than meets the eye. And that's the character of Jesus is that he really just laid it bare. And he's like, I am that I am, right?
57:26 That's the way that God operates. That's why Jesus was the way that he was. Nothing to hide. Just displaying what it is. And Satan is the one who's crafty and tricky. So if you want to go down that road, by all means, you've got the free will to do so. But just know you're going to be dancing on the devil's playground. This is what he set up. He set up countless amusements. Solomon said that there is no end to the writing of books. And that's true in all aspects. The occultists and the theologians throughout history, you can spend an entire lifetime and you wouldn't even crack a fraction of the amount of so-called wisdom that's out there.
58:12 But thank God. God made sure that his own book got written. So you can take that account and parse it out that way, I think. Absolutely. Any thoughts there? I got a few too. Yeah, actually. It reminds me of when Jesus said, you have to eat my flesh and drink my blood. And they're like, are you trying to say, be cannibals and be vampiric or whatever? And the disciples were even saying, this is a hard teaching to understand. And so many people fled away. And he, Tom DeLonge or however you say it, he went to church. That doesn't necessarily mean he heard the truth. And even if he did hear the truth, like even people who saw and heard Jesus, they would run away.
59:02 Some people want things that are easier to consume, I guess. And also everyone has this desire to be strong enough in themselves and be, I'm a good person. I'm just going to go to heaven because I'm a good person. Why would God destroy a good person? He's not destroying the good person. He's destroying the sin that you choose to hold on to. And you do have a choice to give that to Jesus and take Jesus' righteousness so you can actually stand in the presence of God in the last day. Or you can hold on to your sin and hope that you're a good enough person, but that's just not going to work out. Right. And along those same lines of hoping you're a good enough person, that's what most religions tell you. And so if you build that quilt on these, how many religions, you're going to come to the conclusion that all religions are based on how well I can do and what I can do, what I can do as far as works to get to heaven.
1:00:02 So you have, what is the difference between true Christianity and all the other religions, the massive amount of religions in the world? Well, the main difference is that instead of us trying to find a savior, the savior came down to earth and found us and found us and finished the sin. Also, all we have to do is accept it and then follow him. Have that relationship with him. And so that's why the Bible says that the road is narrow and few find it. And you can't just build a quilt and say, well, this is what the majority have said, then this is what I will do. That way I can get to heaven. That's a broad way. That's all I have to say. But. Agreed. What kind of patterns? So it made me think, what kind of patterns is he looking at here? What is the, what are the things that he's seeing that are making sense to him that all religions are seeing?
1:01:03 And this was actually pretty fascinating. And he got some things right here. So let's dig into that. Like, for example, you and I have had so many discussions about the jinn. And the jinn was like a demonic figure that came out of a lot of Middle Eastern religions. But it's really no different than the demons of the Bible or the archons of the Gnostic texts. Like, it seems like all these religions have this same kind of entity that can move from point to point. Can inhabit your body. Take over your body. That plays tricks on you. That's trying to deceive you. And so on and so forth. And you start to see these patterns. They're just kind of described in different ways. But they're all, every religion is describing the same thing. I just think you look at all these things over time and find just a few things that are being repeated. And that's really where I came to the conclusion where this is what makes sense to me. Where mankind is not necessarily in charge, but it's being done.
1:01:56 It's being deceived to make free will choices to end up in a certain place to their benefit. And that can be found really within all religions and UFO experiences and so on. There seems to be a pattern there. And that's really where I've landed with all this stuff. Deceived to make free will choices to end up in a certain place. Guided through time and focused into one area. That's very fascinating that he's come to that conclusion. And I think that's worth a discussion real quick. Because as far as that goes, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe at least he's halfway true on this.
1:02:47 We have an element of this that is absolutely guiding us on both sides to that idea. One's guiding us in one direction. The other's guiding us in the other direction. I'm going to leave it open with that. What do you guys think? That's actually what I was thinking. He's got Hegelian dialectic. He's got that part right. But he's leaving out that there is an ultimate truth. Some people might say, okay, some people might see the same thing and say, okay, there was Jesus, but he was just a prophet. There was Jesus, but he was just a good man. Or there was Jesus and he was the Messiah. He was the Son of God and God come. There is an ultimate truth. But the idea that we are being led thesis, antithesis to a synthesis.
1:03:39 The synthesis is the goal of the principalities who have been doing this for a long time, longer than we've been paying attention. So he's right, but he's also missing the point that there is ultimate truth. Matthew? Yeah, that's perfect because it ties right in with what I was thinking. That Tom DeLonge is fundamentally a truth seeker. I think he comes from a very unique background because being this type of rock star, he's always been into aliens. He used to put on his guitar, aliens exist and stuff like that before he had any involvement with, you know, putting together to the stars or meeting with the other government officials. And that type of a thing. He's wanted to know what is going on here. And the question then becomes for Tom and for all of us, is what level of truth do we want? Because the devil understands.
1:04:38 If I can feed him enough, he's stepping up. And sometimes I can just get people with a little appetizer. You know, they come through the door and I give them that and then they're satisfied. But this guy is like, no, I've had the appetizer. I got the soup. I got the salads. I'm ready for the main course. What's going on? And if he can just keep pushing that and pushing that to you, eventually, if you continue to seek after the truth, the devil can't serve up the final dish, which is salvation and Jesus Christ. That was what happened for me. I was pulling on all these different threads and conspiracy stuff. And when it got down to it and I realized there are powerful people who are worshiping Satan and they go by certain occult systems, symbolisms, and they do certain practices.
1:05:24 And it's very clear once you know what those are, you see it being performed and practiced and little buzzwords, all that good stuff. You'll have to really come to this conclusion. It's okay. So if they're taking Satan this seriously and he's this powerful, what does the Bible say? Well, the Bible actually tells you, yeah, like this is, he's the God of this world. This is it. Lowercase G, God of this world. You will start to understand, and this is that great truth that I'm talking about. I do like the term for it. The great controversy as a term, I think is very, it's very good in describing what's happening between God and Satan because this started a long time ago. It started before Adam and Eve. This has been the, I mean like, you know how whenever, like the UFC, there's a big fight and they hype it up and it's all over the place and you see ads for it.
1:06:20 Well, like you can't, even if you don't watch anything fighting related, it's like, well, I'm being bombarded with this pay-per-view stuff. That is the event of all creation so far. It's been God and Satan because ultimately what it's doing, Satan is going to be gone, but God is proving his character to all of creation throughout this entire process. He could have, if he wanted to, he could have just snuffed Satan out right away, but that would have left the rest of the angels. I mean, you know, I'm standing around a little uneasy like, is this the God we serve? Some guy starts asking questions and you're just going to take him out like that? What's the deal? Maybe he had a good point. Are you hiding something, God? What's going on? Instead, God is gracious enough to say, okay, you want to question me. You want to put me on trial. Even as the supreme being, I'm willing to come down and meet all of you on your level and show you what I'm all about.
1:07:18 Yeah, that's why people look at even the Ten Commandments and they get upset about the Ten Commandments and having, oh, what, I got to keep these laws? Guess what? God, who has limitless power, has these as his moral code. They are, it's a self-imposed thing because it's good and he can recognize what is good. He says, this is how you live because this is how I live. This is who I am as the progenitor of all life. That, yeah, just bringing it all back together, it's such a difference when you look at all these religions. It's a shame that he has this view where he's looking out and he's picking out all these things that are so similar and he's just being satisfied with half truths and it'd be so nice for someone like Tom DeLonge and others who are in a similar boat to him, the people who are truth seekers, to arrive at that ultimate conclusion and realize that they have hope in Jesus and they can choose him this very moment.
1:08:15 Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to give a shout out to Maureen. Thank you so much for your super chat. Sorry, we're late on that. It turns out I didn't start up my system that sends the light notification to the light so I didn't actually see that but I appreciate you and everyone in the chat saying, you need to shout out your super chats. Thank you, everybody. That's why we got the light, folks. That's why it's there. It's not just a gimmick. It literally, like, things will go by the wayside unless we have super chats. I'm going to start that system up right now so it actually does turn that light on when we get super chats. That's my fault. But it's so fascinating. It's almost like you're reading my script, Matthew, because that's exactly what I was going to next and it was a great transition except I'm going to pause here to make sure this thing is running and so I don't miss anything again.
1:09:12 There we go. Okay, pause, unpause, monitor chat. All right, there we go. So, that's interesting. You should mention great controversy because Pete, you know, he goes straight into Peter Lavenda next. Have we heard of Peter Lavenda? Oh, I'm looking at Matthew but I can't read your eyes. So, Peter... No, of course you can. They're just non-expressive at this point. Peter Lavenda has been Tom DeLonge's sidekick, sideman that helps him write his books. He's also a proliferate, proliferic, prolific, whatever the word is. Prolific. There he is. Yeah. Occult writer and so he knows a lot about the occult and why he would choose the occult to write his UFO books makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
1:10:06 So, listen to what he says next about this. This is actually kind of interesting. What do you think, I mean, do you think that our relationship with this phenomenon is more deterministic? In other words, are they directing traffic? I mean, do you think they're directing traffic or? I do. I mean, if you look at Peter Lavenda's book, Sinister Forces, you know, what he did over a series of three books is he found all these synchronicities in patterns in real life events over decades and decades and decades from, you know, World War II and the Nazis and the Roswell into the JFK assassination into so, it just goes all the way through. But, you know, a lot of things are happening, a lot of weird connections to certain groups and secret societies, like weird things where you're kind of going, if someone wanted to engineer life to end up in a certain place, these, these are the things that did it, like, like, like very specific events got us here and then when they're all connected to each other in odd ways, then you're kind of going, who set this up?
1:11:13 You know, and so his books, I think were really genius in that regard and I stopped it, I stopped it too soon. Oh, well, I missed my point here, but what happened was, I think it's interesting that he starts talking about sinister forces are guiding us in some odd way to set, and set up by external life. So, I, what was he talking about here? Well, it's so funny because religion and this UFOlogy stuff is, is almost speaking the exact same language except they're using different terminology. They're not using biblical terminology but they're, essentially, what you said, Matthew, the great controversy, the, the, the argument between two big forces out here. And, he's, he's saying, absolutely, Peter, Peter Lavinda is finding that there's, there's some strange forces that are guiding us. And I think more and more as we get closer and closer to these manifestation, these externalization of the hierarchy as some occult calls them, we're going to see that there's some sort of religious aspect to religion which is why this channel follows the religious aspect of this so closely because we're going to have to, it has been said that if we don't know our Bible we will be deceived by this thing even though it seems very obvious that aliens are deceiving, right?
1:12:41 Well, it also says in the Bible that your young men will dream dreams and old men will see visions as they are. It's a little bit of a phraseology there but if that's happening too that means both the good and the bad are going to have these strange phenomena happening to them and we need to understand which ones are correct by testing the spirits, testing the dreams, testing the visions otherwise we will be completely cut off guard and that's my main concern. What are you guys' thoughts on this before I go on to the next clip? Any thoughts? I actually had something like Matt made me think of the fact that this might sound like it has it makes no sense and it's not connected, but I'm going to try to connect it. So, you know how it says in the Bible that Lucifer, when he was in heaven, he was perfect until iniquity was found in him. And iniquity is sin since transgression of the law. So it stands to reason there is law in heaven. But it also supports the Bible supports that by saying the law is perfect.
1:13:49 Jesus is perfect. The law is truth. God is truth. The law is eternal. Jesus is eternal. You know, there's like at least 15 different things that compare God and the law. And they're the same. It is his character. And so the whole the reason I think why everyone's saying spiritualism, I'm spiritual, I'm not religious. You know, and I don't really like religious either. I like. I don't really like a relationship because religion always has rules. You know, it's not about rules. It's about relationship. But I say all that to say, I think people are more focused on back to what we're saying earlier about just being a good person and just doing your best instead of saying maybe we need to make our characters line up with heavenly characters. Not saying we can be perfect, but with, you know, saved through faith by grace or by grace through faith. But then there's the sanctification part of it. But I hope that made sense. Yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah.
1:14:49 Having that relationship is the thing that changes you. And that's the sanctification because we've been justified by Christ. We can also be sanctified into that relationship, which ultimately changes us, gets rid of our nasty habits, our drug habits, our anything habits that cause us to be sinned. Because ultimately, sin is a habit. It's something that we desire. And that we want. And that is not necessarily good for us. We were made to look upon the glory of God and be changed over and over and over again, as Paul talks about. And when we are changed into that image, that becomes the habit that we are in. And so that's the habitual nature that God built into us so that we could easily obey him. But Satan has worked that to his own nasty feet by giving us bad character.
1:15:42 Anyway, I'm going to go into sermonizing, but no, that's exactly it. I've been doing it too. Matthew, you have any thoughts? No, I think you guys nailed it. I want to hear a bit more from Tom DeLong. Absolute. Yeah. So, rules of engagement. This is what I thought was fascinating. They're using similar terminology, but they're talking about rules of engagement in this thing. Something is guiding us. They're going to go along with that aspect of it. Listen to what they say. There's all these things. We would read a lot of these ancient stories where the devil can't kill you, but he can deceive you enough to kill yourself and kill other people or whatever. There's these weird laws. But then you look at some of the spiritual teachings in other places, and they're just kind of like these outside forces can't necessarily live in this physical realm, but they can deceive you. Or they can be on your shoulder whispering in your ear and so on.
1:16:38 And the UFO event stuff seems to be very similar. It's very similar where you have these people that have abductions, and then they're whispering in the abductee's ear about the end of the world or how you need to change your life. And Jacques Vallée was like, well, if we can't study when these things show up, maybe we can study the abductee. And if you look at the abductee, they're starting cults or they're killing themselves or changing their life and leaving their wife and fucking leaving their jobs and starting a religion or something. And he goes, this is weird. It's like they're being deceived. And then they make. Free will choices to end up at a different place. So I'm putting all these things together, and it seems like our society and Earth, as we know, it has been engineered to be in this spot by a lot of religious paranormal and odd UAP events over time.
1:17:30 Even Hitler would wake up in the middle of the night screaming that someone was in his room telling him to do things. And it was like this. It's you're kind of going, well, are all these world leaders being corrupted? Somehow, sometimes, you never know. Man, Tom almost has it. I mean, I really want to pray for Tom at the end of this episode because he really understands at least that there is a great controversy going on here. There is absolutely something that is beyond us, guiding us. And it's not just, I mean, if you want to say, if you really want to define it this way, yeah, God is not a big-eyed green monster. That's waiting for us, like Hollywood says, but he is absolutely not from this world, and he wants the best for us. And so I think in that aspect alone, he's on the right track. But if he's going to make a collage of religions, he's got a long ways to go.
1:18:28 He needs to focus on one aspect, which is the Bible, and that's what he's opposed to. That's, oh, it just breaks my heart. There's really not much to say about that that we've already said. So if you want. I'm going to go on to the next thing, which is talking more about free will. And there's a lot to say about that one. So I'm going to punch on. Here we go. This whole idea of religion being created as a guide for people to move them in a certain direction, you're not saying, for example, that we don't have free will, right? Or are you saying that? No, no, I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying that we have free will and religions were created to contain it. Because I grew up in the church system. And if you look at, you know, even if you look at Catholicism, you know, in like they they help Nazis get out of Germany, they did the Inquisition.
1:19:24 They have all the pedophilia going on. They are laundering money. They work with the mob. You look at the Christian religion. It was just as involved with as many of those things as the same. You look at the Middle Eastern religions and the amount of war and bloodshed and beheading. It's all of it. And if you like, I look at someone like even my own mom. Who's a hardcore born again Christian, but she's never remarried and the reason she's never remarried is she has a whole bunch of rules of who she can marry, who she can be in love with, how she has to go to church, how they have to worship, like all these, you're boxing in all of your free will. And as soon as you box in your free will experience by any set of rules, it could be religion or it could be anything else, your consciousness and your involvement doesn't grow. You don't get stronger to source. You're like you have a garden, but you're cutting off the roots. Well, you guys have a lot to say about this.
1:20:16 I know I do. It's just silly. How twisted, huh? Go ahead, Matt. I'm sure you're going to say some crazy stuff. Oh, that's just ridiculous. What he's saying, okay, so first of all, with his mother not remarrying, good for her for having some standards and not just running out and marrying any old person. I think that's, maybe that's an admirable thing. Maybe some people can be a little unrealistic in their expectations of funerals. I don't think it's a bad thing to have rules where you're, because choosing to enact certain rules is me exercising, guess what? My free will. Wow. I'm not somehow limiting it by accepting these rules. I am going out of my way to say, I identify this. This is an objective standard that I'd like to live by. And I'm going to do my best.
1:21:12 To live by this standard. And I also trust that God will help me to stick to that standard and will forgive me should I stray, should I fall, and fall short of, which I have. Trust me. We all have. All of us have fallen short of the glory of God. But, okay, so the thing is, for Tom DeLonge, the first thing I think of is, well, Tom, why don't I hand you a gun and you go out and kill somebody? Oh, wait, you don't want to do that. What? Have you placed a limitation on your free will? Tom, you're stifling the garden by refusing to murder somebody in cold blood. Don't you see how silly it is? Really? Yeah. In order to embrace, that's embracing lawlessness and no human being embraces lawlessness the way that I think Satan does.
1:22:08 Really. Satan is like so anti-God that he is like totally lawless. Like why? Because he's the father of all lies and he's like the chief murderer. There's nothing beneath him. He doesn't have, in his war against God, it's, you know, where they say all is fair in love and war. It's like that, that is how he takes it. I'm not going to hold myself to any standard. I'm going to exercise this free will. Yeah, God, you made a mistake giving me this free will because I'm not going to put any limitations. I'll do whatever it takes as long as I win out in the end. That, you know, that is ultimately what Satan's mindset is. And I think he does operate that. That way. But for the most part, no human being. I think I must have some very serious psychological problems. Maybe we all have some type of moral code that we choose to adhere to.
1:22:56 And yeah, to say that is just, I think he's kind of jumping the gun on himself. A hundred percent. What do you think about it, Sarah? Oh, I absolutely agree. I was actually thinking. I was actually thinking. I was actually thinking that free choice is the freedom or free will is the freedom to choose. You can choose, you know, whoever you obey is, that's who, who is your master is what I was going to think. But even Satan, like I agree with Matt, but then if you take it to like the extreme, Satan's one rule is me, me, me, me, you know, whatever I want, whenever I want it. So it's just silly.
1:23:41 Absolutely. To say that free will is stifling. Absolutely. And I think the thing that comes to my head is this, it's kind of funny, but I think everyone will recognize probably. Bertie told me that you had a briefing with Mr. Gates. That's not the run that was supposed to play, but I can pull it over. I wonder what happened there. Somebody pointed out too in the chat, B Blues pointed out in the chat that it is that Crowleyan idea. Do as thou wilt. Yeah. Right. Yep. Cause it's like, that's, that's the whole thing is don't restrict yourself. And even he and his mad quest to become Satan's chief Lieutenant, he, he did some really just disgusting things in general.
1:24:27 I mean, yeah, like some things morally disgusting, but even just like sanitation wise, I don't want to gross anybody out, but, um, you know, from a very young age, you know, like, uh, babies know not to do some of the things that, that Mr. Crowley was up to. And, uh, he, he did it just to, to rebel, fully rebel and do as he wilt. I will do this disgust, these disgusting and terrible things. Right. Right. So silly. That's exactly. Cut off, cut off your nose to spite your face. Right. Yeah. And this, this is a, I think I have the actual clip here. Oh, not that clip. Um, this is what comes to my head first. This right here. Have anybody ever seen this? This funny? It says, I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear. I hate being confined by fear.
1:25:12 Right? But, but it says, face this they say, let's bring him to die. Right. Okay. Which is my favorite. Oh, actually, I told you you should stop opening all of those door handles. And now I'm trying to find a way and get you in. Can you stand still? I had asked you this part. Oh, man. I can't get. Look, I have a little problem here. Face this fence. And it says wait? That's not a fence. That's a guard rail. So whoever keeps commandments keeps their life. But. He doesn't look too happy about it either. Oh no. Yeah. Probably not. Holy. It looks like that weighs down. Proverbs 1916. I'm not saying that Tom DeLonge is going to die because of this, but he's on a path that leads to destruction. And if he doesn't agree that there is some kind of confined mechanism, that true freedom... Because if you really look back on it, Satan believes that true freedom is this idea that you will not have anything.
1:26:01 You can be your own moral god, basically. You can decide what the truth is and what false is. And he has said in the raw material, which is a UFO New Age transcription of what they've said. What's that called? Automatic writing, where this thing comes into them and they tell them exactly what to write. It actually says in there that this being from long ways away, they say through the Orion, is coming back, the one who created the Ten Commandments, to enslave humanity on Earth. Well, that makes total sense in the occult. That makes total sense from a Luciferian type of view, because they believe that having rules is enslavement. You can't do this. You should do it this way. That's a slavery.
1:26:54 Well, in some aspects, but if you were created to be in a certain way, like don't kill somebody, don't lie to people. How hard is that to do? Why is that such a slavery mentality? It's not. It's not. It's a good thing. Anyway. It's a way to maximum happiness. It's an actual, that's the way to heaven. You know, like heaven's going to be like that, where we follow those rules, and it's not going to be a burden. It's a law of liberty. And yeah, I think it's people who often, like the turn and burn, I think is the phrase. Like, it's just, it's like step in a puddle, your foot's going to get wet. I mean, the thing is, just don't hold on to your sin. It's really that easy. Just say, here, Jesus, and that's it. You know? And then just keep your eyes on Jesus. Yeah. Die daily.
1:27:49 Very good. Perfect. I've lost the browser that has the chat. So if you guys can keep monitoring the chat while I find it in the next clip, I hope I haven't missed anything. The whole thing about religion, too, because people tie it in. And yes, there have been people who have misused the scriptures. Very terribly. I mean, in Jesus' own time, he was confronting the Pharisees about that, saying they're laying all these burdens on the people that they should not be laying on them. You know, you're turning the Sabbath day, which is meant to be a wonderful, rejoicing day of rest. It's supposed to be a delight. And everybody's miserable because they can't do anything. I can't even, in the morning, I can't open up my curtains and look out the window because guess what? You pull. The effort you exerted on pulling those curtains. That's considered work, you know. There are people who make curtains and handle curtains in a similar manner like that every day.
1:28:43 That's their work. So, yeah, you're done. Well, the thing is, when you're looking at all these systems, people, I've heard it said before, the Bible is just a control mechanism. It was written specifically by mankind to control the rest of mankind. You know, when I started studying the Bible, there was so much in it that I had no idea was actually in the scriptures. If it's true that the Bible is this just control mechanism that was perfected over thousands of years, why don't we all have the Bible memorized? Why is that not the standard? It's like everybody is raised with this expectation that you're going to know the Bible inside and out, whether you want to or not, because it is this powerful at enslaving the people. The truth is, it is the key to the lock.
1:29:34 It will help to. It will help to shed the chains that you're under, and it's not going to place these bondages on you that people seem to think that it will. Yeah, I agree. There is a couple of verses I want to bring out here that talk about free will, and because there will be people in the chat who don't believe in free will, and I think that's, I love them anyway, but I think that's ludicrous. And I think that this whole idea of humanity being saved. It's based on free will. We were lost because God gave us the free will, whether or not we could eat the fruit or not, and that we decided to go against what God gave us to do. And so, Proverbs 16, 9 says, The heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps. So, there's a clear definition of what's going on. Man is, you know, going along these ways, and God's going to help him, right? Establishing his steps.
1:30:32 So, in Leviticus 25, 18, this is verse 18. I love to go to. It's the first thing that, first time it's mentioned, safety in the Bible. And so, it says, So, you shall observe my statutes and keep my judgments and perform them, and you will dwell in the land safely. And this is what that whole meme, that whole funny, whatever, however, whatever generation you were from that calls this thing. Is it a hashtag? Is it a pound? Is it a, whatever it is. I don't even know. Don't date yourself, Brad. Pound sign. So, this is absolutely what the Bible refers to as safety. It says, And this is the first time the Bible mentions safety. This is how you are safe.
1:31:25 You have to have those rules in place. You have to have those guardrails. Otherwise, you will have trouble with this whole thing. And so, I just want to push that out there. I realize we probably. I spent a long time on this. But let's get into the next clip because I think it's another interesting clip that discusses a little bit more about his ideas of this whole idea coming together in ecumenical movement. Watch this. So, the one good thing that comes out of disclosure of all this stuff is my hope would be that all the religions of the world may realize they've been duped. But they will keep the core fundamental. Every thing is about it that they really only care about, which is the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, physical body, tether, source. And the more you pray and meditate, you open up that fiber optic cable. And you can have crazy power. You can heal.
1:32:21 You can walk on water. You can move. You become telepathic. And you can beat an AI computer at chess. And if we spiritually evolve our consciousness by being able to measure it and understand it, explain it, and bring that into our physics. And if all that happens because we disclose that there's things here that are after our form of consciousness, then we will be able to push back because they won't be able to get what they want. They'll have to move on and go somewhere else. In theory. In theory. You don't see UFOs coming here and zapping us and killing us all like Independence Day. I do know, obviously, things like Calares down in South America where there are people that have wounds. And, you know, they're okay. Somebody got shot. They got shot by a bunch of weird lasers and they died or whatever. But maybe they were just trying to sample what organic material was out there. You know, we don't know if it was there to kill people or if it was there trying to say, is that a plant? Oh, that's a human. And it hurt. You know, we hurt ourselves all the time with technology.
1:33:20 We don't know. But if something wanted to come here and just wipe us out, it could. But it's not because what it needs from us is important. And if they can't get that, why would they even? I don't know. I'm pretending I would know. But I just don't see it that way. Okay, Tom is all over the board here. But basically what he's saying is he subscribes to the zookeeper theory. Basically what he's saying is all of them are nice. Don't worry about it. It's all for our good. And they're all pushing us in the same direction. And that's essentially what he's saying here. He says don't bite the zookeeper. There might be some bad things that happen. But, you know, it's all for our own good. And I don't subscribe to that. I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. I did a whole video on 20 reasons why these things are demonic. And it's absolutely demonic.
1:34:11 100% demonic. And because you could see every aspect of it if you look into the lens of the Bible. If you don't know the Bible, you won't see this. And so that's essentially what I thought was interesting about this, is not only are these things demonic, and thank you for the red flags. I see them all over the chat. But they all are. So he's also saying that he's hoping that this whole movement, that all the churches and all the religions and all the mosques and the masses and everything like that, they all come together and they see their faults one day. This is what he's saying. And that they all come together and they retain their core values. And he names some bizarre slew of core values like your spiritual tether to God and opening up the fiber optic cable. And it's obvious that he's not using any type of Christian terminology here.
1:35:03 Right. Right. Right. He's getting him some UFO books of some kind. Because these are not the core values of Christianity or any religion that I am aware of. So any thoughts on that before we continue? Yeah. Is that like shooting lasers from the eyes, the fiber optic? Anyway, I don't know if I have that one. But yeah, some people's Father, Son, Holy Spirit is different than another Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And ecumenical stuff. It would be all fine and good if we would circle around the actual true Jesus, not some, you know, misconstrued concept of him. But that's the one thing, or rather he is the one thing that is left out of the ecumenical movement. That's the one thing that has to be set aside for everyone to come together. And I'm just not down for that. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
1:35:59 Matthew, any thoughts? Two thoughts. The first thought being, I'm not an animal in a zoo. Jesus, he called me friend. And I have a higher, more noble calling than being zoo-capped by some extraterrestrial species. So you can keep that ideology if you'd like. But I think that I like mine just a bit better. In 1 Corinthians, we actually see a rebuke. A lot of... 1 Corinthians is actually a very loving rebuke. But in 1 Corinthians 14.12, we read, Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
1:36:52 That is something that I've always kept in mind. Because knowing that discernment is a spiritual gift, what do I do with the discernment? What do I do with the discernment that God has given me? Do I put the lamp under the bush? No, I don't. I have to go out and use this spiritual gift to edify the church. Tom DeLonge's talking about, oh, if you just do certain things, you tap into the network and now you're healing people. Now you're walking on water. Now you're doing all these sorts of things. God doesn't endow any spiritual gifts, whether they be some of the more, I don't know, visually impressive, outwardly miraculous, that people would say, or just giving people wisdom and reason. He does all those things for the edification of the church. It is all to serve. It's in service of one another. It's not to suddenly become an X-Man and have these crazy powers. That's not what God does.
1:37:53 So if some type of a force is giving you these powers and then saying, yeah, now you can heal people, but what do I do with it? What do I do with these healing powers? It's not telling you, hey, I want you to direct people to Christ. I want you to heal people in the church. I want you to do these things. It's like, no, just go out and let them know that you have these healing powers. Tell them we sent you. It's just you're working with the enemy at that point. And unfortunately, that's one of the things they can do is that they can give you those types of powers. And I think that a lot of people who they just want it easy, they just want to say, okay, if you're doing these great things, it's got to be of God, right? And it's so funny because poor Jesus in his own time, he's healing people and they say he has a devil.
1:38:40 He heals people by Beelzebub. They did the exact opposite to Jesus. But this is the time we're living in. We've seen the reversal. And it's just all in preparation for this coming deception. Absolutely. Yeah. Many people are going to be moved by the experience. Right, yeah, 100%. They will be moved by the experience. No, no, no. Yeah, talk over me. I'm serious, guys. If there's any trouble and you want to get a thought out, yeah, keep it flowing. That's good. That's really interesting. And I'm glad you brought that out, both of you, because that's something I didn't write in my notes, but I meant to say is that this idea that he brought out was not only of the ecumenical group coming together, but that people will, have these powers to heal and all this other stuff.
1:39:33 He's obviously subscribing to that idea. And we've seen that in the blood-soaked case. If you've watched that episode, it's really fascinating to see that all this stuff is happening and it's all coming exactly how we'd expect if you read the Bible, if you read what the Bible says about this stuff. Major deceptions are happening. And like with that blood-soaked thing as well, one thing I was thinking when I was watching, everyone talk about that, like the devil, like for instance, with Job, the devil was given, he was allowed, you know, he was given permission to do those things. And similarly, I think these zookeepers, they are given permission, whether by, you know, well, God is in control of everything, but we have to also be open to it. But, I'm sorry, I forgot what I was going to say. No, no, I do that all the time.
1:40:26 Yeah, I get it. Because it goes in like five, different directions. I'm like, wow. But yeah, basically, you know, we're an impartial jury. They don't have like control over us in that way. Everything is basically being monitored. Yeah, monitored and there's rules and how you're supposed to engage into this world and the court is open and the books are open. It's a major, major thing that's happening and it's all behind the scenes right now. And with that, I wanted to take it from his discussion, Tom DeLonge's discussion on To The Stars podcast and take it into Ross Colhart and Michio Kaku. Michio Kaku is this physicist, a fascinating physicist, but he's going to say some stuff here that I think is just very interesting. And the first way that the first, he's going to ask, Ross is going to ask him about a lot of stuff about the Bible.
1:41:29 And it's just blowing my mind right now that all this stuff, and it's not that this stuff gets into religion all the time. It's that it's always in that realm because it has to deceive those who are in religion in order for it to succeed. And so that's the whole point of this channel is to try to correct some of that stuff. Watch this next clip. So what do you, one of America's most eminent theoretical physicists, say to people watching this who might be thinking, UFOs, UAPs, they're just a bit of a giggle, seriously. They don't need to be taken seriously. If it turns out that we have in fact been visited by an advanced civilization, this would be, let me take that again. If it does turn out that we have been visited and it could be proven by an advanced civilization, then that would be the greatest moment in the history, in the history of the human race.
1:42:29 It would be a pivotal event in the history of homo sapiens on the planet Earth. The realization that we are not alone. And then of course we have to begin the process of analyzing the question, who are these people? What do they want? How can we relate to these people? These are cosmic questions. And so this is perhaps one of the greatest questions facing the history of the human race. What happens if we make an encounter? What happens if we make an encounter? What if an alien comes to Earth? Well, I think I would suggest that we already have had an alien come to Earth. His name is Jesus Christ. He's not really an alien as you would expect, but he absolutely is off this planet and he came to save us. It was the biggest thing that has ever happened to planet Earth. And he did come and present to us the right way to live. And it's fascinating to me that that's exactly what ufology is looking forward to, that exact scenario.
1:43:26 That's what I want to say about that clip. But any thoughts until I go on to the next clip? We're going to talk a little bit about that, if it's incompatible with religion or not. I'm sure I'll have something to add to the next one. Sure. You took my thought anyway, Brad. Just that we're not alone. Back in the 1960s, the Brookings Institution did a paper that suggested that the world wasn't ready, America wasn't ready for the whole idea of the possibility of extraterrestrial life because of religious beliefs. Do you think that the notion of extraterrestrial life is incompatible with conventional religious ideas? In the year 1600, there was a former monk, Giordano Bruno, who was burned alive in the streets of Rome because he said there were aliens in outer space.
1:44:23 And if you go to Rome today, you can go to the Plain of Flowers, the very spot where he was burned alive. And there's a statue of him, a statue of him pointing to the heavens. And it indicates that, hey, maybe civilization has grown up a bit. That in 1600, we burned them. We don't burn astronomers anymore. We don't burn scientists anymore, like they used to in the year 1600. So I think that the people are more accustomed to the idea that the universe is huge, that our Earth is not the only planet out there, that can sustain intelligent life. And so I think the public would be more welcoming the idea that there could be other civilizations out there. There's been a change in public attitude because Hollywood has pretty much created the new mythology. It used to be demons and gremlins and leprechauns that people dreamt about at night and feared.
1:45:20 Now it's aliens from outer space. And some of them could be friendly, like E.T. And so I think the American public is ready for information about an encounter with an extraterrestrial civilization. Crazy. Wow, he just laid it out. That's a great clip. You don't see that too often. You don't see it too often, even in all these circles, that someone just lays it out as plain as that. Because it's like, yeah, I totally agree with you. I just think the motivations are very different for what's going on. Is he sure that that's why he was burned in the 1600s? Because from my understanding, that wasn't generally why the millions of people were burned. And also for the Vatican to have all this archaeological, like from that time and even before talking about aliens and they have in their little vaults all this information.
1:46:22 I don't think that they would have burned someone for saying something that they had in their vault. It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me. doesn't add up but also um something something that he kind of touched on that we uh it's it's not likely that we're the only place that has civilization and because there's so such a vast universe when i hear people say how the the probability of there being life out there because there's so much out there it makes me think well we have a nice little planet here why are us little monkey people the only ones especially with all the evolution why are we the only ones on this planet why don't we have competing like civilizations of say fish people you know going along with their logic i don't believe in evolution one bit but like from his standpoint this is a big enough planet to have other um what's the word he used um sentient sentient creatures sentient creatures you yeah where's the uh the middle between uh all the evolution from the uh the placebo or whatever it was called the uh the amoeba amoeba and so the human amoeba yeah no yeah yeah and like you say other uh life forms that came out of the other species yeah the same amount well it'll i think that those questions will be answered eventually by the by the visitors we we guided it we made sure earth is a very special place and we made sure that everything happened according to plan and we don't even want your thanks we just want your worship i think this next uh this next clip is gonna i don't have the notes for this next clip let's just watch it and see what happens i asked you earlier about religion and the impact that you thought the revelations of potential alien life might have on establishment religion arbitrage was what they were about uh but a bunch unsure i don't know if they actually still on the front line and their account probably simply adjusts if they don'tちょっと they are very somewhat i think a lot of people have showed up in some kind of thing or that's where the thing came from me that's right well i think it suddenly got their family into a whole Wieh轵 bridge you know with all sorts of other religions prior to it ended up hitting the average age range health is an religion. You've written a book yourself recently about God. You've engaged with the possibility that the theoretical physics that you're exploring isn't incompatible with the idea of God. Now, one of the people you've named, Stephen Hawking, he suggested that God didn't fit in to the Big Bang theory. There was no room for God. Why do you disagree? Well, the late Stephen Hawking had very sharp opinions about God and the creation of the universe. According to Einstein's general theory of relativity, the Big Bang was almost instantaneous and therefore Stephen Hawking said, ah-ha, there was no time. There was no time for God to create the universe. It just happened just like that and therefore God could not possibly exist. But you see, that's an old theory. We don't necessarily believe that.
1:49:21 anymore because we now believe that the big bang was a quantum event and in a quantum event if it happens once it can happen again and again and again creating a multiverse of universes so instead of one universe expanding which is the big bang theory we have a bubble bath a bubble bath of universes bubbles being formed out of the vacuum because we're now exceeding the Planck energy and these bubbles create entire universes and so we begin to realize that there was plenty of time for a god to create a universe because there was not just one universe okay would someone please in the discord make a meme of him going bubble bath bubble bath oh it's a bubble bath so I know so I see I see your lips going I'm going to say one thing before I get into you Matthew this this this guy is the same one that said I think it was five or six or seven times in this entire interview I counted them that he only goes off a fact he's he's a uh what do they call it a physicist we only talk about facts I'm a physicist I only actually you know what I I want before hold that thought Matthew I want to play this clip real quick I'm a physicist we live and die with the data we go where the data goes even if we have to be dragged kicking and screaming into areas that we feel uncomfortable with we go where the data goes we go where the data goes and the data you go where the data goes you go where the data goes well I'm a physicist we believe in data that is testable reproducible falsifiable I'm a physicist we live and die by the evidence science is based on things that are testable reproducible and falsifiable anything outside of that is considered hearsay a bubble bath a bowl bath why in the world we can't test this theory and so i i that's that's what really blows my mind is that he's he says this over and over again throughout this whole interview it's a it's it's absolutely we only do facts and then he goes into this well let me tell you about the theory the big bang is a quantum event and now they're the multiverse is real multiple universes and all this stuff which we don't get into that too much on this channel and maybe we maybe we should see uh some more of that multiversal stuff because that is so popular it is you know it was really made popular by marvel uh the uh avengers and the whole idea behind that eventually was that there's more universes and they've just been exploring that idea ever since i don't think it's quite as popular as it once was uh but the idea still got put out there there's other forms of media that have explored this idea of there being multiple universes but it's it's something that i've thought of and it's like how do you even begin to entertain that because if they're going to come in and say um yeah like some of us are from your universe some of us are from the universe three blocks over some of us are from a whole another universe i mean that one's really crazy this is what a what a buffet because you're just saying that you know all things are possible and not through god but all things are possible fundamentally because there is a multi multiverse in existence and anything is anything and you are anyone you know there's like a version of you that is the king of a country that doesn't exist there's you know a version of you that isn't even you it's like some other guy you know what i mean this gets so ridiculous that if that becomes something that is like tied into the end time events i don't even know how i will i'm going to get into the ring i already know it's going to be a difficult fight but if they introduce this whole idea of the multiverses into it and um yeah it's like i'm trying to tell them about how this is a deception and it's a lie and everything like yeah you're saying this in this universe but i actually talk to you from another universe today yeah and you agree with it you said not to trust you it's like what so what do i do at that point just throw your hands up in the air and say jesus come soon please jesus yeah i'm out of ammo yeah yeah i guess the best thing is just keep studying revelation and say well does you know i i don't know i'd be that confused as well
1:54:09 um but yeah basically something i wrote earlier um that god is omniscient and omnipresent he's out of space and time yet in every moment and situation everyone who considers that perhaps he is an alien or has a small understanding or he would have a small understanding of god and likely an inflated sense of self because i heard some of what this guy was talking about about things earlier and uh i was just thinking about that he kind of seems has an inflated sense of self yeah you know i agree it's funny because one of those clips he had to restart himself and he said oh i'm gonna restart if you remember that that one clip and that um he kind of broke character because if you've listened to these clips over and over again as i've been editing them he says the same thing over and over again with the same cadence and he has a pre-planned way to say it and so i i think it's it's a interesting that um he's obviously been given the questions ahead of time to prepare for and uh he he has a very specific way to say things and he broke character and i was like oh that's really actually what he sounds like he doesn't sound like a machine when he's talking but you're right i think that um all this is pre-planned it's it's it's all part of the agenda matthew you still there too yeah i'm here okay um i got i got one more clip and i know i normally don't say that but i i think this is this is the funniest clip of them all um john um i keep calling him no i don't want to call him jean ross colhart that's his name and a reason why i confuse that all the time is because i used to work with jean ross so i keep thinking every time i see ross i want to call him jean ross it's not jean ross it's ross colhart so ross colhart has some questions for him.
1:56:15 Listen to this question. This is actually pretty interesting. Now, I'll probably get my head put on a stake by some of the religions for suggesting this possibility, but is it possible God's an alien? I mean, is it possible that what we are is some kind of genetic experiment by a much more advanced civilization? Because at the heart of it isn't what, say, the Bible or the Koran describe something that involves a highly advanced intelligence coming down to planet Earth, imbuing us with knowledge and skills, passing on understanding. Isn't that God? Isn't that alien? Well, if an advanced civilization were to come to the planet Earth in the year 1500, for example, we would consider them to be gods. Now, does that mean that they are God that created the entire universe?
1:57:10 No. It just means that our level of technology in the year 1500 would suppose that they are, in fact, God. But whether or not there is a God is independent of whether or not an advanced civilization were to meet us in the year 1500. These are two independent questions. One question is simply, are they advanced enough to appear like God? The other question is, are they God that created the universe? These are two distinct questions. All right. So, two distinct questions, huh? And so, I agree with them. There is two distinct questions there. Is it God? But we know what's going on here. We already know the end from the beginning because it's outlined there in the Bible. The Bible says explicitly that there will be a deception at the end of time. Do not be deceived, Jesus says to his disciples, because there will be huge deception.
1:58:03 And that's how the enemy works. He does not play fair. And we need to be wise to that. We don't know. We don't know what the Bible says. And I'm going to appeal to the audience here. If you have not read the Bible, get an audio book, stick it in your ear, and just open it every morning. It's so important. I mean, you're just going to be amazed at what's in there. I know I was when I first opened it. And I was just like, wow, this is actually the story. This isn't the VeggieTales version. This is actually really what happened. And this is the original idea of what's going on here. And it's the only way, you can refer back to it. And once you read it once, just once, it is forever in your brain, especially if you're doing it with a purpose in your heart. And you will be extremely blessed by it. So any thoughts on that last clip?
1:58:59 Oh, I agree with you about, they actually have a really good app with a guy that has an awesome voice, the King James. So for people out there, highly recommend it as well. Alexander Scorby? Probably. Probably. You know, he sounds, like I can listen to him all day. Very proper sounding. Yeah, very into it too. He sounds, yeah. What is the app? It's King James. Hold on, let me see if I can find it. I'm going to download it. I got it on my phone. Oh yeah, it's super cool. Yeah, there's one that I like to listen to. It's like, it's kind of dramatized in some ways. There's music that accompanies it. And it's like, there's a crowd of people. You're like, like the murmur or whatever. And they have different, they have different readers for the different, you know, people who are speaking.
1:59:50 It's like, it's consistent. If there's like a narrator of the book, like in Isaiah, if you're going through Isaiah, it's just like the guy reading it is Isaiah. And then if Isaiah speaks, that narrator is speaking. And then other people come in. It's nice. It's, that's pretty, that's cool. Yeah. I like that one. So, but I do also like the Alexander Scorby one, which I think is what you're talking about. Yeah. Which I think is what you're talking about. It's just a very, a very classic kind of reading. It has a little icon of the Holy Bible, King James version. And it has like a little reddish brown Bible on it. Yeah, that's the one. I used to listen to it and fall asleep to it as well. Okay. Tell me which one this is. I'm going to hold my phone up. Is it on?
2:00:39 Oh, it's all out of focus. Okay. Can you, you can't even see it. Yeah. It's okay. You can see it. A little bit. Is that it? Is that it? The, the, this one right here. It's there. How much does that cost? How much is that? It says get, it doesn't say I have a price on it. It's free. Oh, you can't be free. Mine says, I love this. This is so fun. Mine says the Holy Bible. Then it has a little letters, King James version, like on the little icon. Okay. All right. So it's that little, little square. I can send you a, uh, on discord. I'll send you a picture. Cool. Yeah. Put it on discord. And that, I mean, by the way, if you guys are interested in joining our discord, please do. Patreon.com slash strange normal.
2:01:30 You can get an access to the discord and we would love to chat with you. We talk about this stuff all the time, but more than this stuff, we talk about everything from Bible prophecy to, uh, the current events, the war. We have a whole channel dedicated to what's going on in the war as well as the nuclear and, and, uh, uh, because that's a big thing just in the UFO realm and, uh, sermons that are based on this stuff. The channel devoted to that and quotes from the Bible and quotes from society, quotes from Ellen White, quotes from all over the place talking about what is actually going on here. So if you're interested in that, you think we're bringing value with this channel, help us and, uh, join us. And I think you'll be a super blessed by it. Patreon.com slash strange normal. We'll get you in and you can, uh, go from there. So, that's all I have for the night. And also fellowship and prayers too. Fellowship and prayers. Yes. Yeah, we do that on Friday nights. We, uh, we all get together, voice chat and we talk and sometimes it's only just a few people.
2:02:27 And so if you really want to get out and talk, talk with us, um, we would love to hear from you and, uh, we, we love to get on and chat quite a bit. So Friday nights and, uh, and, uh, you'll see us obviously here on maybe Thursdays and obviously every Sunday. Go ahead. You're going to say something else. Oh no. Okay. Very good. Matthew, you have any last comments? Oh, oh, I'm here. No. Okay. I'm good. I think this was a nice, uh, nice episode. It's good to dip back into some of this, uh, stuff and just check the boxes. Yup. We're moving right along. Full steam ahead. That'll be a show. If this has ever pulled back from, and imagine that one week is just like everybody comes in at the same time. Yeah, it's nothing. It was, it was all big misunderstanding.
2:03:20 It was just like, okay, all right, here it is. But no, it's, it's, it's going just as we, we believe it's going to go. And I think we'll see the fruition of it, uh, relatively soon. Yup. Yup. Absolute. Absolute. All right. Well, in that case, I hang out for just a second, guys, we're going to do a little after show and I'm going to, uh, post actually post those actually this time. Um, and by the way, I keep thinking there's something else I got to do. I can't remember what it is, but I just want to tell you guys that I love you all. You guys are fantastic. Everyone that's been watching, you guys have, uh, uh, really been the light of my day. Every time I come to the comments, it's very positive. And that's a very unusual for, uh, YouTube. Uh, and I, I appreciate you even going in there and militantly, uh, going through and policing the comments too, because sometimes they can get, uh, kind of crazy, but not, not this group.
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