🚨UFO Injuries & Congress Debrief Highlights👽🛸

0:06 We've only seen the public version so far, but here's what we can tell you. Government investigators seem sincerely baffled by what these things are. Today's report analyzed 144 separate sightings of UFOs by the U.S. military. But in only a single case could the government explain what it was. So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official saying stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic. Correct. This is a person I respected tremendously. Very, very senior person. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop. Stop doing this. I said, OK, sir, I certainly can. But may I ask why? He says, well, we already know what it is. And I said, OK, sir.

1:03 So so it's ours. And he said, no, that's not what I'm saying. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I wasn't quite sure where he was going with that. I said, well, sir, I think I know what. It says what where you're going with this. And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them. And what I've been trying to do is to use the special privilege that I've been given of getting access to a Harvard education and the law school education. And with the Jesuits and all the different people in meeting, you know, Baba Muktananda and getting to meet all the spiritual leaders of our people on our planet is to try to develop a really intelligent, sophisticated. Spiritually informed, but rationally developed a set of policies for our dealing with extraterrestrial civilizations.

2:10 The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as we see these as we call them UFOs or maybe, again, the things that we have peopled our religions with in the form of spirits or. Gods or what have you are really just these things showing themselves as they appear to be now. Religions have made conclusions about the data have become set in their ways. And that is frankly what sets up this potential conflict amongst the religions, because they've all come to a conclusion. They're trying to prove the other one wrong. Yeah. A pillar of fire at night and confuse Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help?

3:04 There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightnings was starting shooting from the sky and like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere. And then they on the morning, they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke. And it's repeated in the book of Acts. Chapter. Chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy.

3:52 So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. We're now less than 16 minutes away. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first, the Russians are going to be considered to be. The enemy. In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy, then terrorists would be identified. And that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. We now call them nations of concern. And the next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the. Final card. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card.

4:56 And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. No, I'm not talking to you about this. What am I going to tell her or him? You know, these little kids, you know, 10, 11 years old. Yeah, that there's a force that exists out there that can control our environment, that can put thoughts in your head, that can lie to you, trick you, deceive you. Say that to a 12 year old. I mean, we're already saying it to a certain extent. 14 minutes, 30 seconds and counting. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized.

5:46 And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. Yeah. You know, there were there were no questions that prepared me for for what I was about to get into. You know, people often say, oh, must have been fun and must be exciting. No, it was it was pretty sobering. You know, I like in this conversation to like having a conversation with a loved one about maybe cancer. Now, the good news is the diagnosis looks fine. You're going to recover. But it's a serious conversation. This is this is something that we are challenging people to reevaluate their philosophical, psychological, sociological and theological. Belief system. Any time you ask humanity to do something like that, it usually takes generations. You can't just pivot because, you know, for example, let's just take culture, for example, of a country. It's like an aircraft carrier. How long does it take to turn an aircraft carrier?

6:40 Well, it takes quite a bit of time and a lot of bit a lot of effort and and whatnot. Well, this topic is the same way because we're challenging people to reconsider, if you will, reevaluate their understanding of what they've been told about the universe. And more importantly, our population. We're placing it. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or to be perfectly honest, a demon? You know, that's my understanding of ghosts. Any anything of that kind of story? Don't believe in ghosts. I don't. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. These so-called alien beings are actually alien beings. actually manifesting at times as dead relatives during the abduction experience to challenge the person's belief system as Christian theology in the idea that dead relatives can be talked to or even spoken to or that they're even around to be able to hear what we have to say.

8:01 No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well by contacting these things. Evolution says that these things are likely to be superior and so survival of the fittest will destroy us. Religion says that these things are deceptive and dangerous and the evidence if you want to include all the theory and all the stories of these sincere people, it says they've damaged crops, they have mutilated cattle, they've abducted people beyond their will, they've messed with our highest security protocols, they enabled and disabled dangerous warheads, forced pregnancies, forced surgeries, burned victims, killed pilots, and lied to people. And most experiencers have experienced at least one terrifying alien experience. So to say that these things, they haven't destroyed us yet, so they must be good, is to deny the fact that there might be a universal court saying these earthlings are protected here on earth. And that's what Christianity believes. We've passed the 11 minute mark. Now t minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. Both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. What's going on here? Absolutely. Very eye-opening.

9:26 The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some of the UFO sightings have been reported. Some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Mark, t minus 10 minutes and counting, t minus 10. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning. But there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are reading. And that's the kind of information that we are reading. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are, we can't explain how they moved their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that worse, people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is.

11:58 things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet and keep in mind there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe i mean you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there but you've seen this and you've seen the data well no one knows but i think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else the mission of atip was quite simple it was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles what i guess in the vernacular you you call them ufos we call them uaps you know how this sounds it sounds nutty wacky look bill i'm not i'm not telling you that that it doesn't sound wacky what i'm telling you it's real the question is what is it what are its intentions what are its capabilities my name is tom belong most people know me i'm a scientist i'm a scientist i'm a scientist i'm a scientist i'm a scientist know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called blink 182 i started a company called to the stars that eventually became to the stars academy of arts and science we are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about ufos in the papers today without all the stigma it's the first time that we had the videos properly declassified and because of that then we had information as far as altitude and speed eyes on target different radar systems different um sensors that all corroborated what was happening people start to understand more about the ufo phenomenon and when they they follow what secret machines is going to teach them and mind you as we'll talk about this in a little bit it's not all coming from me it's coming from other people of the highest places the the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the ufo phenomenon than and and and that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats there is a very very strong link between what people think demons are from the bible and other religions um and the ufo phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man period and something that feels um either jealous of or um has some kind of plan for what man uh is to be over the next 10 years i have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of jesus christ this is documented evidence but but what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect christian belief very soon not not right in the beginning we won't have to um deny our christian faith in the beginning but there is information coming from another world and once it is confirmed it is going to require a re-reading of the gospel as we know it and that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of vatican intelligentsia we're now passing the four minute 30 second mark in the countdown still go at this time and the priest told us could i have a more your time i want to do something very fascinating he says the grain plane the master's grain plane for harvesting the nations for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil so we continued you know after we express ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits and he said it's going to be done in a unique manner this this grain plan says it's going to take people people are going to eat the stuff because it says with the spirit of the spirit of the spirit of god it goes along with the spirit of the complex religion of the spiritual coming into existence so we're going to continue the process until we can put it on our heads and then we're going to see what happens for the even spirits even spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless lot's coming right up looking forward to it talk to you soon t minus three minutes and counting t

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20:40 I'm sure if you guys follow the channel, you've probably seen quite a bit of it. But before we get into it, I want to introduce our guest tonight, Matthew. How are you? Good evening. How are you? Good. Good. I was concerned there for a second. I didn't see you on video. I was like, oh, no, he's gone. We're not going to be able to. I'm going to run this by myself, and sometimes that can be difficult. But I'm glad you are here, and I'm glad you made it. Absolutely. It's always a pleasure. Love it. We got this amazing setup tonight. I mean, there's just so much going on, so much to talk about. But before we get into it, you know what we forgot to do, Matthew? And I'm going to do it right here, because this is the most important thing of the whole show. Let's pray. There's lots going on right now. Father God, please be with us.

21:30 God, our tongues, God, our actions that we normally pray before the show, but we forgot tonight because there's been so much going on with the audio technical difficulties. We thank you, and we look forward to presenting what you have given to show the world that we can reveal from the Bible. Amen. Amen. There's lots happening, and it's all been already revealed in Scripture. But I think it's important to look into this a little bit further and see what's going on. And see what's happening in our government right now. Because this stuff is going to affect every single person here on earth. It's going to begin a series of events that is not going to be stopped. And so with that, we had a congressional hearing yesterday. It lasted about two and a half hours. The first 45 minutes of it were introductions and introduction statements.

22:25 And then there was a half hour of them introducing the introduction. And then we actually got... That's some really interesting questions. And so we're going to just skip all the beginning hoopla and just jump right into it. Because that's what we're doing here. We got about a half hour of B-roll. And so we're not going to talk too much. But you watched it, too. I want to get your thoughts on it before I go straight into the beginning of it. What are your thoughts, Matthew? I did watch it, and it was more than I thought they would have presented, honestly. I saw some people saying, oh, same old, same old. Nothing new. And maybe to us, maybe to the audience that we have, there wasn't many new ideas that were presented. But these are new ideas being presented before Congress. And this is now going on to public record. This information, a lot of people haven't heard it before.

23:18 So even if you have heard it, just know a lot of people haven't. So it's brand new. And not only that, there was more information that I didn't know about before. There's some really... Interesting developments as far as, I suppose, the behind the scenes. Right. Makes you wonder. They don't seem to be telling us everything, but they're hinting so heavily at things that are happening behind the scenes. You've got to wonder. This deception goes deep, folks. Luckily, we don't have to know the full story. There are people who are chopping at the bit, and they would love to know because UFOs are kind of their religion. UFOs aren't our religion. It's something that we understand. It very well could be that deception that comes over the whole world. And I think after these hearings, that is the camp that I'm in more firmly now than ever, is that there will be an extraterrestrial UFO deception.

24:18 And that's what the Bible is describing. Yeah. It's crazy. But even more than that, this is kind of the catalyst that brings religion back to the atheist. It's going to grab everyone. Like you've heard. You've heard how atheism is rampant and all that stuff. And, well, now everyone is going to become very spiritual because this is a spiritual event that's happening. And all of a sudden, everyone is going to be either in one team or the other team. And we're going to have a polarized religious world. This is what's happening right now, folks. Right now. And so – I just want to tease something too. I'm working on cutting up a video for Brad. Because Brad is a little busy and we do have this little get-together over the weekend. So on Monday evening, I'd like to do a special broadcast.

25:10 So set your timers. Get ready because I'm going to have clips chopped up that Brad hasn't necessarily seen from a Ross Colhart interview where he is talking with a theologian who holds a PhD. And it's exactly what Brad was talking about, saying more and more spiritual. It's crazy because I've looked. And I've tried to see what is Ross's religious convictions. And I couldn't find any. But he finally, in this interview, kind of led on that he calls himself more spiritual than religious. Of course. And just to wet the palate a little bit, he says that the more he looks into this phenomenon, the more spiritual he becomes. Oh, man. That's going to be – That's Monday night, folks. Get ready for that one. I'm really tempted to watch it ahead of time. I won't, though. I'm going to watch it. I'm fascinated. Okay. All right. All right. Let's look at this because like you said, this is the major event. This is why this is big because this is in front of a legal ideal system here.

26:13 Congress. Congress is supposed to balance out the government's power, right? And so they're swearing these people in and saying, you're going to tell the truth. And what they said under oath is surprising. But let's first go into this real quick. And before we do, please click that Like button and share this with someone because this is going to get – this is going to be very strange. Here we go. All right. Now I'd like to introduce our witnesses. Our first witness is Lieutenant Ryan Graves. He's the Executive Director of Americans for Safe Aerospace. Lieutenant Graves is also a former U.S. Navy F-18 pilot with his own UAP experience. The next witness, David Grush, is a former senior intelligence officer with the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and was a senior technical advisor for UAP issues. And finally, retired Navy commander. Thank you. Thank you. Commander David Fravor, squadron leader who worked as a naval aviator for 18 years.

27:06 Mr. Fravor has his own UAP experience known as the TikTok event. I look forward to hearing from all three of you today. Pursuant to Committee Rule 9G, the witnesses will please stand and raise their right hands. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? So help you God. Thank you. Thank you. Let the record show that all the witnesses answered in the affirmative. You may be seated. We appreciate you all being here today and look forward to your testimony. Okay, I'll pause it right there because now he's just going to explain how to press the button if you want to talk and all that stuff. All the extra stuff. But that's interesting. They swore them in, so right now they're going to tell absolute truth. So from here on out, according to them, and they're all in agreeance on this, all three witnesses, they're all going to explain stuff. That is bizarre, just strange.

28:05 And I'm not just saying that because it's behind me here. I think we're living in some amazing times. And so the next thing is a new story about an event from Ryan Graves, the pilot that is on the witness stand here. So let's get right into that before we do any commentary. My next question would actually be for Mr. Graves. Can you please explain to me in detail the event that occurred at Vandenberg Air Force Base? Certainly. In the 2003 time frame, a large group of Boeing contractors were operating near one of the launch facilities at Vandenberg Air Force Base when they observed a very large 100-yard-sided red square.

29:03 They approached the base from the ocean and hovered at low altitude over one of the launch facilities. This object remained for about 45 seconds or so before darting off over the mountains. There was a similar event within 24 hours later in the evening. This was a morning event, I believe 8.45 in the morning. Later in the evening, post-sunset, there were reports of other sightings on base, including some aggressive behaviors. These objects were approaching some of the security guards at rapid speeds. Before darting off. And this is information that was received through one of the witnesses that have approached me at Americans for Safe Aerospace. Was this documented in any official form, whether it was a police blotter? Yes. They had official documentation and records from the event that the witness held over the years. And I'm not going to ask you to do it right now for time reasons, but you would be able to sketch what was witnessed, correct? And have you seen that before on any other equipment and or during your flight time?

30:00 I have not seen what they have described. This object was... Estimated to be almost the size of a football field. And I have not seen anything personally that large. Not seen anything the size of a giant square in the sky, the size of a football field coming at you. They're saying this under oath. What is going on here? I think that would just make me uncomfortable if I was among the audience. By the way, Matthew, you know who is among the audience? You know who these guys are back here? I'm going to pull up a quick... A screen cap real quick to show the widescreen. Tell me who you see in the background. This is really interesting to me. Look at this. Who do you see on the far right beside David Grutch, who's in the middle there?

30:49 On his right, you can't talk right now because I don't have your audio on. I don't know how to do that. And to his left, there's two prominent, well-known guys that are to the right and left. If you can see them, you can see them. If you know in the audience who these two guys are, let me hear in the comments who these people are. And I'm going to come back to Matthew to see if he knows who they are. I'm going to put you on the spot, Matthew. Who do you think these two guys are right here? I forget the guy on the left, the older gentleman. But I know that that's got to be Jeremy Corbell there on the right. He's unmistakable. That guy is like a spitfire. But I have seen the other guy. I think he's actually done some shows with Jeremy, right? They're the same kind of a clique. Why don't you tell me, who is that? That is George. Is it Knapp?

31:46 I know it's one of the Georges. You don't know yourself? I know it's George. George something. George Knapp. Yeah, see, Debra knows that in the chat. I knew it was Knapp. I knew that. So I think it's interesting that somehow they got in on this thing. How does a normal person just get in there? I don't know. I think that's fascinating. But they are well-known, I guess, journalists. At least Jeremy is calling himself that now in a recent interview. But George Knapp has been a journalist for a long time, trying to cover this stuff. So that's interesting. So what do you make of this? I want to use the keywords that they're using here. And they are saying, I can't say it with a straight face. An aggressive red square the size of a football field is coming at the military officers.

32:44 It's hard to keep a straight face and say that. That's all right. I think the aggressive adjective might make it funny somehow. Because the idea that it's an angry, bearing red square. Are we on Cessna? This episode is brought to you by Angry Red Square. What color is this? What shape is this? I don't know, but it's angry. It's angry. Okay, enough. I've got to compose myself. It's wild, I think. But I imagine people have seen such a UFO, such a UAP. If we're not going to use that outdated terminology, how? I'm going to say UFO. It's like I'm in yesteryear.

33:36 No, no. It was a UAP, and that UAP was massive, apparently. It was. It's funny because I read something similar out of the book, Piercing the Cosmic Veil, which is a book that Joe Jordan put together with a guy named Jason Dezember. And Jason's UFO account had UFOs the size of football fields. And I believe. He was trying to tell other people, hey, like, look, they're here. There's these massive things. How do you not see them? And the people that he was talking to couldn't see what he could see. So there is something that we've kind of talked about before. But there's this weird aspect where they can be detected by whatever sensors they want to be detected, and they can be seen by whoever they want to be seen. So they can show up as a square, a propane tank.

34:29 They could be anything you want. But one of the weirder ones, and maybe we'll get to this clip that they had mentioned, was that there was a sphere, and inside of it was a gray-black cube. Cube, yeah. That's pretty wild. There are some occult connections to the black cube itself. Interesting. We're going to get there, though. Actually, we have that clip. We'll get there, OK. Let's talk about it when it comes. OK. Let's not jump the gun. So this next clip is. OK. OK. Let's talk about corporations. Apparently, not just the fighter pilots are seeing these things, but your average Joe pilot that's flying commercial airlines. And the airlines are telling them to be quiet. Check this out.

35:17 OK. And follow up. In regards to the reporting procedures that Mr. Garcia had addressed on, as well as Representative Burchett, with the FAA, to your understanding, pilots that are seeing this, commercial airline pilots, are they receiving cease and desist letters from corporations? I have been made privy to conversations with commercial aviators who have received cease and desist orders. So the American public should know that corporations are putting their own reputations on the basic, not the line, but ahead of the safety of the American people. And I think, would you agree with that statement? It appears so. OK. All right. Just going to pause it right there. So it's more than just fighter pilots and your average bumpkin pilot. I think it's more than just fighter pilots and your average bumpkin pilot. I think it's more than just fighter pilots and your average bumpkin pilot. I think it's more than just fighter pilots and your average bumpkin in the backwoods that is seeing these things. It's a lot of other people. And they're all being told, you know, be quiet about this. And we're going to find out a little bit further on in the show that if you are a fighter pilot and you want to keep your career and you don't want to be seen as crazy because they won't give you any more flying if you start seeing things that they think is weird, then you'd be quiet about it.

36:27 But this is happening all too much. And it's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's talked about under the breath of these fighter pilots. And they're like, OK, we've got to do something about this, which is how this came about. What do you think? What do you think, Matthew? Any comments on that before we go on the next clip? What happened to that? Wait, wait. I can't hear you, Matt. Is your we're good. We're good. We're we're good. I had muted myself by accident. It makes sense that there there would be this type of a cover up, especially if you had more of like an older guard mentality. People who would hear about the UFO stuff and it just sounds so off the walls, you would start to think maybe they're kind of a little mentally unstable. And when you're flying equipment that costs tens of millions of dollars, you don't really want an unstable person in the cockpit of that vehicle.

37:23 So it's it. It became a necessity, I imagine, for them to come together and say, look, we know what we're seeing. This is a real thing. They can't just shut us up and even worse, end our careers over it. And here we are today. It has been a very long process, folks. Just just keep that in mind. Everything that's happening here, these people are heavily invested in. And it didn't just get drummed up last week or a month ago or when the Grush interview broke. This has been happening for a very long time. Absolutely. We're we're not only going to talk about that tonight, but apparently and you've heard about crashes, right? The crashes of these UFOs, they've come from and they're so advanced and they come and they crash into our. They've come billions and billions of light years away just to crash into our measly planet and tell you that Christ, Jesus Christ is not true God. Because that makes sense.

38:17 But I'm being sarcastic for those that don't understand. But the the the interesting part is that we found out a couple episodes ago that these things, the majority of according to what they're going to say soon under oath that they've found craft. Now, we haven't seen any of that yet. So let's just throw that out there. But it's interesting that they say they found craft and the majority of them have been left intact as a gift. It seems they haven't crashed. Something weird is going on here. And as Christians, we're not we're not saying that these things are absolutely aliens from another planet. What we think is probably absolutely physical deception. Matthew, you have a theory on that. Have you seen anything in the Bible that relates to physical deceptions? Yes. You're referring to Exodus, aren't you?

39:17 Where the magicians of Pharaoh were able to replicate the staff turning into serpents. They were able to replicate the blood, the water of the Nile turning into blood. And they were able to replicate, I believe, the lice. It stops. There believe it's the staffs and the first two miracle or the first two plagues, excuse me, which are miraculous, but the plagues, those were physical deceptions. And I like to take the Bible at its word. And I like to say, OK, if it says that they turn them into serpents, it wasn't necessarily a sleight of hand magic trick, as we know it, an illusion, so to speak. It was a staff turning into a serpent. So, yes, I believe they can manifest. Things physically for their own ends, but they're obviously from the Exodus account, too. We know that there's a limit to that capability because at a certain point they ran out of gas in the tank and they couldn't they couldn't perform any plagues and God has infinite power and he could just churn them out all day if he wants.

40:26 Right. And his mercy, he only went up to ten, but Egypt could still have plagues falling on it today if God wanted that to happen so. OK, very good. Very, very good. This is the unsanctioned, no, unsanctioned programs that the government is running. This is this is out. This is in Congress now. This is they're saying this under oath. There is unsanctioned programs that the government is running, misappropriating funds to disassemble these things. That's what they said. I'm just telling you what the books say. Watch this. Mr. Grush, as a result of your previous government work, have you met with people? With direct knowledge or have direct knowledge yourself of non-human origin craft? Yes, I personally interviewed those individuals. Mr. Grush, as a result of your previous government work, have you met with people with direct knowledge or have direct knowledge yourself about 80s advanced technologies that the U.S.

41:22 Government has based on conventional advanced tech? I was briefed to the preponderance of the defense departments, both space and aerospace compartment of programs. Yeah. Do you have knowledge or do you have reason to believe that there are programs in the advanced tech space that are unsanctioned? Yes, I do. Okay. And when you say that they're above congressional oversight, what do you mean? Complicated question. So there's, you know, some I would call it abuse here. So congressional oversight of conventional special access programs. So I'll use Title 10. So DOD is an example, right? So 10 U.S. Code Section 119. It discusses congressional oversight of SAPs, discusses the DEPSEC DEF's ability to waive congressional reporting. However, the Gang of Eight is at least supposed to be notified if a waived or waived bigoted unacknowledged SAP is created, and that's public law.

42:21 Well, so that how does, I mean, I don't want to cut you off, but how does a program like that get funded? I will give you generalities. I can get very specific in a closed session, but a misappropriation of funds and self-fund. Does that mean that? Does that mean that there is money in the budget that is said to go to a program, but it doesn't, and it goes to something else? Yes, I have specific knowledge of that. Yep. Do you think U.S. corporations are overcharging for certain tech they're selling to the U.S. government, and that additional money is going to programs? Correct, through something called IRAD. Okay. IRAD. Do you know what IRAD stands for, Matthew, Mr. Military? No, why don't you tell me, Brad? I don't remember. It's something. It's something about, oh, I had it. In fact, I looked it up when they said it. It's something about the, let's see, I'll look it up real quick. IRAD, military, someone's going to say it in the chat before I get to it.

43:20 Oh, no, independent research and development. Independent research and development. So, yes, there you go. Tiny got it. You had it before I did, because I'm about four seconds ahead of you, which makes me behind. So, you would have heard me late. So, yeah, you got it before I even found it. Oh, Brett. Tiny Tabernacle. Your name's not Tiny Brett. So, I should read the whole thing. So, that's interesting. And if we have any military in the chat, I'd like to, give me a raise a hand. Give me a checkbox. Do a salute. A salute, yeah. The salute thing. I'd like to see. Drop a salute in there. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. Everybody. Let me see if I can find it.

44:08 There we go. But essentially, what he's talking about is that they're embezzling funds. And not only embezzling them, but they're getting those funds through lying and saying, well, here's the price tag. And we know how our government spends money. The U.S. government just prints money and throws it everywhere. There is almost no accountability. So, it shouldn't be surprising that any sum of money is ending up in their pockets. And now illegal activities, criminal racket, is kind of formed out as a parasite onto the government. And I think that's interesting. Because now that they're pointing a finger and saying there's an illegal racket going on, and it gives you more of something to go after, right? Because if it's just... Oh, there's just some secret projects that are happening.

45:06 Yes, certain people in the government are checking the boxes. But what he's saying is nobody's checking the boxes. They're rogue. And they need to be stopped. It's a bold assertion. And it should probably grab the attention of more members of Congress. Because nobody likes to be taken advantage of. I've often heard about these conspiracies or these, hey, the government's lying to us and all this other stuff. We kind of know that. Because they have to say some things in order to make sure other countries' enemies don't find out about things. We understand that. But to the extent that we're finding these things out right now is kind of unbelievable. And to say they're misappropriating funds to disassemble these things so they can get... You know, again, we haven't seen this stuff yet. But I wouldn't be surprised if we see a physical deception soon.

45:58 So, how do you find these things? Of course, Congress is going to want to know. How do you find access to these things? We're going to see that next. I'm going to direct this, I believe, to Mr. Grush. But if any of you all feel like you need to jump in, just jump right in. We're good. Has the U.S. government become aware of actual evidence of extraterrestrial, otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence? And if so, when do you think this first occurred? I like to use the term non-human. I don't like to denote origin. Keeps the aperture open, both scientifically. Certainly. Like I've discussed publicly previously in 1930s. Okay. Can you give me the names and titles of the people with direct first-hand knowledge and access to some of this crash retrieval, some of these crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases that the recovered material would be in?

46:55 And I know a lot of Congress talked about we're going to go to Area 51 and, you know, there's nothing there anymore anyway. It's just, you know, and we move like a glacier. As soon as we announce it, I'm sure the moving vans would pull up, but please. I can't discuss that publicly, but I did provide that information both to the Intel Committees and the Inspector General. And we could get that in the SCIF if we were allowed to get in a SCIF with you. Would that be probably what you would think? Sure, if you had the appropriate accesses, yeah. What special access programs cover this information and how is it possible that they have evaded oversight for so long? I do know the names. Once again, I can't discuss that publicly. And how they've evaded oversight, in a closed setting, I can tell you the specific tradecraft use. All right. When do you think those programs began and who authorized them? I do know a lot of that information, but that's something I can't discuss publicly because of sensitivity.

47:52 All right. If any of y'all want to jump in on any of this, you're more than welcome to. What level of security clearance is required to fully access these programs? Well, anybody who has... And I say that because my son is a security officer. I'm a security officer myself. Representative Gates and Representative Luna were basically turned away at one point at Eglin, so please go right ahead. Certainly a difference between member access and, say, somebody like me, but anybody who has a TSSCI clearance and meets the eligibility criteria, the access adjudicative authority should be able to grant you access. Mr. Burchard, if you'll yield. So just to put a fine point on that, there's nothing that you're aware of that's above special access program classification? It's a misnomer that there's anything actually above top secret. Executive Order 13-526 delineates the classification levels. Right.

48:41 But I draw a point on that because we can have access to those programs, and so the notion that we're not being given that access sort of defies our typical muscle memory here in Congress. Thank you, Mr. Burchard. I'll yield back to you. Thank you, Mr. Gates. Along those lines, Title X, you may not know this or not, but Title X and Title 50 authorization, they seem to say they're... They're inefficient. So who gets to decide this, in your opinion, in the past? It's a group of career senior executive officials. Okay. Are they government officials? Both in and out. Do what? Both in and out of government, and that's about as far as I can go there. I got you. All right. Well, that leads to my next question. Which private corporations are directly involved in this program? How much taxpayer money has been invested in these programs?

49:34 To your knowledge. I mean, we know we audit the Pentagon every year, and I've been here five years, and they failed the dadgum thing every year. They lose over a billion dollars a year, we think, and I was told the Department of Defense maybe 60% of their assets are unaccounted for, whatever the heck that means. In the public sector, you go to jail for that kind of crap. So tell me. Yeah. I know when I'm a dollar off of my DTS travel voucher, I get hammered. But it seems like it doesn't work the other way around. If you sell over $600 worth of stuff on eBay now, you get a call from the IRS. So please. What corporations? Yeah. I don't know the specific metrics towards the end of your question. The specific corporations I did provide to the committees in specific divisions, and I spent 11 and a half hours with both Intel committees. Okay.

50:25 Has there been an active U.S. government disinformation campaign to deny the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena? And if so, why? I can't go beyond what I've already exposed publicly about that. So it seems like a lot of negativity that he can't go into. He can't go into. He can't go into. But I want to suggest that the fact that he's absolutely here and he's saying, hey, I can't go into that publicly in this public hearing, but I will talk to you about it afterwards, is saying something. Because what's going to happen after this is these people who we've entrusted to watch over our government, they're going to take this stuff and they're going to run for office. They're going to make this stuff and they're going to run with it. And we're going to see that by the end of this program because they have an after party that they did after this whole thing. And it's quite revealing. What do you think about all that, Matthew? Well, Dave Grush wants to talk in a SCIF.

51:21 And for those of us who don't know what a SCIF is exactly, it's S-C-I-F. And it stands for Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility. Ooh. And what that essentially is. Is it's a space where there's all the preventative measures are taken that there's not going to be any eavesdropping or that the information will leak out. Tim Burchette, the senator, was saying that they were unable to get a SCIF. The question becomes, is it a scheduling difficulty because there's only so many of these facilities available or are they being stonewalled? Is there someone actively working against them? Or is it just seeing that request for the SCIF and denying it outright just based off of who wants it and for what purpose? I think that Dave Grush will end up being able to communicate this information to them. And it sounds like he's already communicated a good amount of information to other people.

52:21 And the, what was he saying? The inspector general is who he's talked to. And he's given lists and names and that type of a thing. Just seems to be more. Be able to disseminate the information a bit more. Put it into more people's hands. And, I mean, isn't that the definition of disclosure, really? Well, I think it's interesting, too, because I actually read up a little bit on this. And it turns out, I'm not sure how many facts I have right here. So correct me if I'm wrong, Chad. But the, he went to some of the higher up military and said, hey, you guys, show me what's going on here. And they said, you don't have the high enough credentials. You don't have the high enough credentials to do this. Apparently, there are credentialed people inside Congress.

53:07 And there's some kind of gang of eight. This is something I haven't read up on. So I don't know much about it. But there's people that are privy and those that are not. And he apparently didn't have the right access to this. And him and whoever that other girl was, Laura Croft, I forget her name. And they didn't have the right access. So they couldn't get information. But after some talks, they talked to the right people. And they gave him at least a little bit to whet their appetite. They got to see some pictures and stuff of things that would normally be classified. So it's interesting to see where this is all going because of that. But what was their names?

53:53 It was going to drive me nuts now. Tim Burchett and Anna Paulina Luna. That's their names. Don't let me forget that. What do you think about it? So I just want to address the gang of eight real quick. The gang of eight are basically, I have it right here, just a definition. The gang of eight is a colloquial term for a set of eight leaders within the United States Congress who are briefed on classified intelligent matters by the executive branch. And if we look at the current sitting members, of the gang of eight, we see the two names that stand out. Well, three names that stand out to me right away would be Marco Rubio, who has spoken on this UAP issue.

54:43 He seems to be pretty invested in it, which makes sense if he's involved in this intelligence and the classified. If he's feeling like maybe a little slighted, something got past him that he's not aware of. Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, by the way. So Chuck Schumer recently came out talking about this and saying that we need to take it seriously. And Mitch McConnell as well, which Mitch McConnell just experienced. I don't know for anybody who's maybe outside of the news cycle, but he had like a really weird malfunction. He like glitched out at a little presser. It was really, really bizarre. If you get a chance, look it up after the broadcast. But he was in the middle of answering a question and just like completely freezes. And then the aides are the aides are just saying like, Mitch, do you want to go to your office?

55:33 You want to go to your office now? And he's just like. And he just gets led away. And then no one heard from him. And then his office released a statement saying he's fine. So he's fine. But anyway, those three names stand out to me. And I'd like to just point out that Chuck Schumer, being a Democrat from New York, is a very prominent Democrat and Marco Rubio. I mean, he ran against Donald Trump in 2016 for the Republican nominee. You are going to see that this issue is going to unite the right and the left. It's going to happen. This is the the issue where they're going to find the common ground and come together. And there won't be this really weird polarization around it.

56:24 I bet there's going to be a lot of handshakes, a lot of hugs. And it's all going to be thanks to this issue. And we're seeing that right now. I think even AOC, Cortez, whatever her name is, she says that, I think, in this thing. And I don't know if I included that clip, but I thought that was interesting that she would even mention that. We're going to jump into hostile activity. This next clip is talking about the hostile activity of these, these craft, as they call them, the incompetent aliens that crash into our world. And multi-dimensional, as they're calling them. Check this out. There's been a lot of things that have been said in the public, Mr. Grush. And so I want to get down to, if we can, some specifics, right? So at one point you had said that there has been harmful activity or aggressive activity.

57:25 Has any of the activity been aggressive, been hostile in your reports? I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured. And the activity... By UAPs or by people within the federal government? Both. Okay. So there has been activity by alien or... Non-human technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans. I can't get into the specifics in an open environment, but at least the activity that I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here because you don't, you know, they tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right? So what I personally witnessed, myself and my wife, was very disturbing.

58:19 Okay. One of my constituents actually sent this next question, and I figured I'd ask it since I had the same thought. You've said that U.S. has intact spacecraft. You said that the government has alien bodies or alien species. Have you seen the spacecraft? I have to be careful to describe what I've seen firsthand and not in this environment, but I could answer that question behind closed doors. Have you seen any of the bodies? That's something I've not witnessed myself. Okay. And so with that being said, you know, the other statement that has been made that was intriguing to me because, and it's intriguing because my view has been that we are billions of light years away from any other system.

59:13 And the concept that an alien species is technologically advanced enough to travel billions of light years, gets here and somehow is incompetent enough to not survive Earth or crashes is something that I find a little bit far-fetched. And with that being said, you have mentioned that there's interdimensional potential. Could you expound on that? I'll answer your first question. And, you know, I'm here as a fact witness and expert, but I will give you a theoretical framework at least to work off to kind of espouse crashes. Regardless of, you know, your level of sentience, right? You know, planes crash, cars crash. N number of sorties, however high, a small percentage are going to end in, you know, mission failure, if you will, as we say in the Air Force. And then in terms of multidimensionality, that kind of thing, the framework that I'm familiar with, for example, is something called the holographic principle.

1:00:12 Both it derives itself from general relativity and quantum mechanics. And that is, if you want to imagine a 3D object such as yourself casting a shadow onto a 2D surface, that's the holographic principle. So you can be projected, quasi-projected from higher dimensional space to lower dimensional. It's a scientific trope that you can actually cross, literally, as far as I understand, but there's probably guys with PhDs that we could probably argue about that. But you have not seen any documentation that that's what's occurring? Only a theoretical framework discussion. Okay. Okay. Yeah, okay. I've heard that theory before about the 2D, 3D, 4D type thing. I don't know if there's any math that can prove that. Now, someone's going to say I'm absolutely incorrect in that, but I want to see the facts.

1:01:05 And I like the theory. It's interesting to me. But show me the facts any day that prove this 4D thing. I'm sure there's something out there, but we don't know if these entities, whether they... that we know are demonic, they're fallen angels. We don't know if they're on a 4D plane. I mean, some people even say that the fourth dimension is time. Well, we know that's not true because they're not in... You can't manipulate time. Angels can't manipulate time. And so, absolutely, there's something else going on here, whether they're just veiling themselves so they can't be seen, or they're entering some kind of different realm. We don't know. Maybe you threw a glass darkly right now. I don't know. Prove me wrong. What do you think, Matthew? As far as time manipulation goes, there is a bit of what they refer to as the Oz factor, where Dorothy spent all that time in Oz.

1:01:59 And in reality, she was out for, I don't know, like however many hours in the movie. Haven't seen that in a very, very long time. But there's that. And I suppose it's like you're saying, they're here, but they're not quite perceivable. So that either means they're kind of like sideways to us, right? In terms of our reality. It's a hard thing to grasp. When we start looking... Yeah, when we start looking into the mechanics behind it, there's a lot we don't know. We can just kind of describe it. And that's almost... It becomes a frustrating thing when you're trying to evangelize and tell people there is a spiritual world and a spiritual reality, that there are spirits who wish you harm, and the protection against them is to obey God.

1:02:53 And God is a spirit. We know. Jesus Christ taught us that. So this unveiling, I hope that we still have time to do some evangelism when they are revealed, because it's such a supernatural, paranormal thing. I just hope that once people say, whoa, there are alien beings, non-human intelligences now, we can say, yes, and there is a God as well. And the arrival of these beings means that the arrival of Jesus Christ is right behind them. Let's see. I'm concerned about that too, because you know the arrival of the Antichrist, a physical manifestation of Christ as, I mean, Satan pretending to be Christ, let's put it that way.

1:03:46 And so, oh man, that's going to become the most confusing thing, because there you go. Look, it's right there. We do. Yeah, and they're going to say, okay, you believe in God. Yeah, we do too. Look, there he is. No, not this guy. Not that guy. Yeah. And not only that, it's something that I don't want to see it. I don't want to interact with it. I've said it before. You know, our phones, the media, the way everything is set up, you're bound to see the information, the arrival of they're here, they're here. And it's going to turn my stomach if I have to see an image or a moving video of them. It's so repulsive, the idea like my skin is crawling, just saying it out loud. But I know that it's something that we'll have to contend with.

1:04:35 It's going to be the reality that we're going to be living in. And that's the time of trouble. That's the time of trouble that I think is being described. It's having these things among us. I want to just look at Revelation 12, 12. Here, one moment. It says, Rejoice. Therefore, rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them, because Satan has been cast out. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea, for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. So that sums it up. That's the issue that we're going to be confronted with, is that the devil has come down to us in the same way that he was standing in the heavenly courts and making his petitions to the angels and saying, are you really going to follow him?

1:05:25 Join me in my rebellion against God. Well, he gets kicked out. And of course, the inhabitants of heaven are like, yes, literally, thank God he's not here anymore. We don't have to deal with him. But then they look down and they're like, oh, those poor inhabitants of the earth, now they have to contend with him. And he knows his time is short. He knows that he's only got so long before God's going to pull the plug on that. That's what we're going to be dealing with. And just like you were saying, they're going to say he's Jesus Christ. They're going to say that he's God. Yeah, so confused. Not cool. Yeah, exactly. That's going to be a strange, as Aaliyah said, in the chat, a strange new normal. That's the whole point of this channel.

1:06:16 It's going to be a strange normal. I mean, that's what this is. It's the new age, in other words. Anyway, we're dwelling on that a little bit because that's the whole point of this channel is to talk about this strange normal that's going to be happening here pretty soon. But I also want to touch on something they said at the very beginning. Harmful, hostile activity. Harmful, hostile activity. That's what they said. I think that's interesting because how can you say that these things are absolutely good and they've come from so long far away and they must be superior and moral and they come and they tease and they scare and they mess with us? It said they're harmful and hostile and we want to grant them what? Oh, yeah. Come on. You guys are ill. Let's baptize you. I think I may have puzzled it out a little bit, Bradley. I think I know how they can have their cake and eat it too.

1:07:15 All right. And the way that they do it is that they say, just like we have an understanding that there are holy angels and fallen angels, they'll say, well, there are good non-human intelligences and there are bad non-human intelligences. And unfortunately, both of them have been here. The ones that have been mutilating the cattle and killing people and harming people with radiation, that wasn't us. That was the bad ones. And we're here to get rid of them. And the fact that they're setting up a hostile force, what I think is going to happen, and I'm going to look over Matthew 12 for a moment. So when Jesus was casting out a devil or devils, maybe multiple ones, but I know at least one, it says, but when the Pharisees heard it, and we're starting at Matthew 12, 24, but when the Pharisees heard it, they said, this fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub, the prince of the devils.

1:08:12 And Jesus knew their thoughts and said unto them, every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand. And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself. How shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. If he's going to play the role of Jesus, he needs some devils to cast out. And it's funny because he's saying, if they're not working together, if his house is divided, how can it stand? Well, these bad demons who are inside of them are in cahoots. They're working with it. It's that old trick where it's like, okay, I'm going to tap them on the shoulder three times and you get out. And then boom, here I am.

1:09:09 I'm casting them out. And it's so twisted because I bet as Christians, when we point to that and we say, this is like a smoke and mirrors, a weird demonic trick, they're forging miracles and they're setting up demons to be cast out, you're probably going to hear Matthew 12 quoted at you and they're going to say, oh, I mean, you can't cast them out. You're saying what the Pharisees said in Jesus's own time. You're accusing Jesus again. And you are the modern day Pharisee. You who are clinging to your Bible rather than as a Pharisee clinging to the traditions and the laws. You as a Christian are not getting with the times. You're clinging to the Bible and this testimony that's found in there. We've got this, the light is in the world with us now. He's back. I don't know. We're seeing the beginning of that, even just this week, of the religious idea of ramping up in this ufology thing.

1:10:09 And Matthew, that's why you're putting together Monday. I have another clip, I think that you should include in there. I'll show it to you after in the discord. By the way, if you want to be a part of that discord, go to patreon.com slash strange normal. Partner with us because without your help, we can't do this. And we think this is a very important thing because the two main things that are going to be major issues in the last day, worship and spiritualism. That's going to be the big, big, big things that are happening. So that's what this channel focuses on. Strange normal.com. It was the website or patreon.com slash strange normal. Just look at the description. It's in the description right there. It says, join our discord. Just click that link. You'll be fine. Don't memorize anything.

1:10:58 We all have five second attention spans anyway. All right. So next clip is story about the Congress trying to get into the deep government and realizing they can't. So here we go. Watch this. Several months ago, my office received a protected disclosure from Eglin Air Force Base indicating that there was a UAP incident that required my attention. I sought a briefing regarding that episode and brought with me, Congressman Burchett and Congresswoman Luna. We asked to see any of the evidence that had been taken by flight crew in this endeavor and to observe any radar signature as long as, as well as to meet with the flight crew. We were not afforded access to all of the flight crew.

1:11:46 And initially, we were not afforded access to images and to radar. Thereafter, we had a bit of a discussion about how authorities flow. The United States of America. And we did see the image. And we did meet with one member of the flight crew who took the image. The image was of something that I am not able to attach to any human capability, either from the United States or from any of our adversaries. And I'm somewhat informed on the matter having served on the Armed Services Committee for seven years, having served on the committee that oversees DARPA and advanced technologies for several years. When we spoke with the flight crew and when he showed us the photo that he'd taken, I asked why the video wasn't engaged, why we didn't have a FLIR system that worked. Here's what he said. They were out on a test mission that day over the Gulf of Mexico.

1:12:41 And when you're on a test mission, you're supposed to have clear airspace, not supposed to be anything that shows up. And they saw a sequence of four craft in a clear diamond formation for which there is, a radar sequence that I and I alone have observed in the United States Congress. One of the pilots goes to check out that diamond formation and sees a large floating, what I can only describe as an orb, again, like I said, not of any human capability that I'm aware of. And when he approached, he said that his radar went down, he said that his FLIR system malfunctioned, and that he had to manually take this image from one of the lenses, and it was not automated in collection, as you would typically see in a test mission. So I guess I'll start with Commander Fravor. How should we think about the fact that this craft that was approached by our pilot had the capability of disarming a number of the sensor and collection systems on that craft?

1:13:52 Well, I think this goes to that question. I mean, on that national security side, you can go back through history of things showing up at certain areas and disabling our capabilities, which is disheartening. And for us, I mean, like I said, it completely disabled the radar on the aircraft when it tried to do it, and the only way we could see it is passively, which is how he got that image. So I think that's a concern on what are these doing, not only how do they operate, but their capabilities inside to do things like this. And how should we think about four craft moving in a very clear formation, equidistant from one another, in a diamond? In all of the phenomenon, perhaps, Mr. Grave, that you've analyzed, have we ever seen multiple craft in a single formation? I have one particular case, and that was during the Gimbel incident. The recording on the AT FLIR system shows a single object that rotates.

1:14:46 You hear the pilots refer to a fleet of objects that is not visible on the FLIR system, and that was something that I witnessed during the debrief, and that's part of the radar data on the situational awareness page. I would like to add, however, Congressman, there's a small bit of anger, I would say. I would feel that those pilots are still facing that difficulty in reporting this topic, and they don't have the tools to be able to mitigate this issue. It just goes to show how serious this is and why this is such an important issue for our pilots and for our nation. It was stated explicitly to me by these test pilots that if you have AU of AP experience, the best thing you can do for your career is forget it and not tell anyone, because any type of reporting, either above the surface or below the surface, does have a perceived consequence to these people, and that is a culture we must change if we want to get to the truth. Mr. Chairman, I would observe that perhaps as we move forward from this hearing, there are some obvious next steps. Every person watching this knows that we need to meet with Mr. Grush in a secure, compartmentalized facility so that we can get fulsome answers that do not put him in jeopardy and that give us the information we need.

1:15:59 Second, I would suggest that the radar images that were collected of this formation of craft out of Eglin Air Force Base, and specifically the actual image taken by the actual flight crew that we can actually validate be provided to the committee, subpoenaed if necessary, so that we're able to track how to get this type of reporting and analysis done in a more fulsome way. That would be my recommendation, humbly, as a guest here of the Fine Oversight Committee. I yield back. Whew, that was long-winded, but he said quite a bit there I thought was interesting. That was a story about Connors trying to get into the government to talk about this stuff. One thing he said that was interesting was that they've disabled radars and all kinds of other stuff, and they made reference to, they didn't say it explicitly, but some of the stories that have been heard that aren't, they aren't proven yet, but I'm suggesting they probably will be, are them disabling and enabling nuclear weapons.

1:17:06 And so this is something that they kind of alluded to when they were talking about the radar being disabled by that. Any thoughts on that? Anything? The whole tone of it has shifted, hasn't it? I think in the chat, our chatter here, Panda, brings it up. How serious this issue is, in quotations. All of a sudden, it's so serious. And they're right. It has become a very serious issue. If you look back a year ago in June when they had the first congressional hearing, it was so flat. It was so dull. I mean, you really had to be into this sort of stuff to sit through it and listen to it.

1:17:57 And a lot of people were just so fed up. They were saying, oh, this is not what we needed. This is not going anywhere. People were very frustrated by it. This recent hearing, people are celebrating. I mean, those who are ufologists are saying this was momentous. This is a historical hearing. This has pushed us, pushed the issue further in the congressional lens than it ever has been before. It goes to show that things are heating up. And Bradley, you did a little one-off broadcast recently, a surprise broadcast, where it talked about how there was a timeframe. Correct? You had that show? Yes. That was just this last one. And it talks about, yeah, about how the New Age movement has correlated these dates and they are representing the same dates in ufology.

1:18:53 So that's a little interesting, that correlation there. Yeah. And even beyond that, it seems that there is a belief held in the ufology community that there was some type of an agreement made with the non-human intelligences. So silly. But that they would disclose their existence to the public and that they would let people know and that that timeframe seems to be in the late 2020s. It's really easy, folks, to find out whether or not this is going to happen. Just stay alive for the next five years or so. And if nothing happens, nothing happens. And we're like, who cares, right? But if it does happen within that time period, it's going to be, it has to be fast.

1:19:43 It has to be breakneck speed. And I think from what I'm seeing, it looks like, I feel the speed cranking up. Does everybody else feel the speed? I want to know. Yeah. If you're watching this live in the chat, I want you to tell me if you think that things are picking up, if you've noticed that over the past couple of years, or if you're watching this recorded, leave a comment. Yeah. Let me know. I want to know what you think about this new rapid rate of disclosure and the seriousness with which it is being taken now by Congress. We just got to wait on Legacy Media. We just got to wait on Legacy Media to catch up. As soon as they stop playing the X-File theme, we'll know. That's funny you should mention that, actually say that. But the fascinating thing, oh yeah, hit that like button on here. It really does help promote the video more, bring more people into the chat.

1:20:36 By the way, it's interesting to me that they mentioned DARPA. DARPA is an interesting department or agency. Someone asked in the chat, what is DARPA? A Defense Advanced Research Project Agency. What it is, is this crazy department of the military, I guess, and they do iRobot stuff. If you YouTube DARPA online, you will be scared out of your mind because they have robots dancing and they look like they're human. That's their movements. They're able to stand up and walk around and jump and all these other stuff. They have robot dogs and all kinds of stuff. It's kind of scary, but that's DARPA. I think that's DARPA. I'm second guessing myself now. But anyway, that was fascinating.

1:21:29 I got wrapped up in the story. If you have anything, let me read what I got next here. Story about Congress trying to get deep into the government. That's the one we just did. Has the government made contact with aliens? That's another question. And this time, they're going to list several. They're going to list specifics. They want specifics of those involved. Let's listen to what they say. You say that the government is in possession of potentially non-human spacecraft. Based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts, do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in a public setting.

1:22:14 Okay. I can't ask when you think this occurred. If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary references, video, photos, eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a SCIF about. Gotcha. Okay. So, and you may or may not be able to answer my last question, and maybe we get into a SCIF at the next hearing that we have, but who in the government, either what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting?

1:23:15 And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. Super. Thank you. And I yield back. Cooperative and hostile witness list. Wow. And I'm happy to give that to you after the hearing. That's not, hey, let's get into a SCIF. We're done. I mean, here it is. And you guys can go out. I've got it in my pocket right here. I know. That's what I'm thinking. He's like, let me tell you. He's been making a list and checking it twice right now. Let me tell you what's going on here. And so that's where I think things are going to start coming down the hole rapidly.

1:24:07 Because even though he's not revealing a lot of stuff and people are kind of upset about that, it's particularly UAPology. They're kind of like, oh, this guy. But he's got a list. I mean, he's got stuff and he's prepared to tell everybody. And so once he has told the individuals that are ready to take action on this, we're going to see some crazy stuff happen. And that's how close we are, folks. And so I'm not saying, hey, I'm ready to see them bodies. What I'm saying is we're close to the end of time. You like that, Matthew? See them aliens. Yeah, no, we're not like drooling over the idea of seeing the proof. You know, I've got enough proof of this sort of stuff just through my faith in God. I know that this sort of stuff exists. And I know that the devil is crafty.

1:25:00 I want to give a little shout out here. Liz Cruz, she said that this is what comes to mind and quoted Isaiah 26, 20, and 21. Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers and shut thy doors about thee. Hide thyself as if it were for a little moment until the indignation be overpassed. For behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity. The earth shall also disclose her blood and shall no more cover her slain. Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, it's a little moment. It's a little moment, isn't it? I mean, what an assurance. I always love going to the word of God. Just totally. If there's anything that you do after watching this show, before you watch anymore ufologist stuff or dip into it, if you want to be a part of the research, that's great.

1:26:04 But go to the word of God because the assurances that you find there are such a comfort. And it really will just roll right off of you. I'm amazed at how I'm able to look at some of this really sinister stuff and see all the implications. And it's weird, it's dark, but it doesn't get to me. It's almost like a duck has its feathers and you see when the water goes on its feathers, it just runs right off. That's what happens. When I get into the word and I see a verse like this, it just totally... I'm at ease. God has assured me that it's not going to be this prolonged thing if he didn't do that. And I'm thinking, the demons are going to be here and ruling over Earth for who knows how long? God, where are you? What's going on? No.

1:26:52 They're coming. It's true. But this time of trouble is a short while. Love that. Thank you, Liz. Absolutely. Absolutely. 100. 100. I'm chatting with people in the chat here. National security. So this is where this whole thing is going. Everyone wants to... The reason why the push is happening is because the government doesn't move unless there is a threat or there's something that's a problem. And so this has been pushed as a national security thing to kind of push things along. Listen to this because this is how this thing is going to be pushed along here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you all for being here and the courage it took to come forward. And again, the sacrifice that each of you have made.

1:27:42 I serve on the National Security Subcommittee for the Financial Services Committee, so I really want to stay in the national security lane, if I may. So when we think about traditional adversaries and both us towards them and them towards us, we probe their capabilities. We look for weaknesses and we collect that data, that reconnaissance, in the event we need it in the future. For each of you, yes or no, question. Based off of your own experience or the data that you've been privy to, is there any indication that these UAPs could be essentially collecting reconnaissance information? Mr. Graves? Yes. Mr. Grush? Fair assessment. Mr. Fravor? Very possible. Again, in the national security vein, is it possible that these UAPs would be probing our capabilities? Yes or no? Mr. Graves?

1:28:37 Yes. Grush? Definitely. Is it possible that these UAPs are testing for vulnerabilities in our current systems? Yes. Yes. Possible. Do you feel, based off of your experience and the information that you've been privy to, that these UAPs provide an existential threat to the national security of the United States? Mr. Graves? Potentially. Yes, sir, potentially. Same answer, potentially. I would say definitely, potentially. Mr. Graves and Fravor, in the event that your encounters have become hostile, would you have had the capability to defend yourself, your crew, your aircraft? Absolutely not, sir. No. Based off of the information that you've been privy to, is there any indication that these UAPs are interested in our nuclear technology and capabilities? Yes.

1:29:36 By external observation, sure, that could be a fair assessment, yeah. Yes. Is there any indication that the Department of Energy is involved in UAP data collection and housing? I don't have an answer. I can't confirm or deny that in a public setting. Could you do it in a secure setting? Yes. Mr. Fravor? No, I don't know. Mr. Chairman, I think I'm the last member to go, but there clearly is a threat to the national security of the United States of America. As members of Congress, we have a responsibility to maintain oversight and be aware of these activities so that, if appropriate, we take action. I would encourage the Chairman to demand that we have any and all, but in particular Mr. Grush, talk to us in a skiff, and if that access is denied, I will personally volunteer to initiate the Holman Rule, against any personnel, or any program, or any agency that denies access to Congress.

1:30:45 Mr. Chairman, with that, I will yield the remainder of my time to my fellow colleague from Tennessee, Mr. Burchard. Wow. Very interesting. And I want to acknowledge Liz. Thank you for the super chat. She says something that's very interesting, I think is actually good to point out here. She says, I'm just going to say it. I think Mr. Grush is a non-human entity. Praise God for his word and comfort. So I think it's interesting, because I believe at the end of time, whether or not Grush is or is not, I think there will be non-human entities that manifest themselves and work along human entities, both good and bad non-human entities. Both good and bad angels. Those that are for, and those that are against. That's going to happen. And so, what we could be seeing right now, we could actually be seeing some people in this room, in Congress, that are, I mean, for instance, the Bible talks about when angels appear, you don't see wings on their backs.

1:31:46 That's, this is a painting. This is the Catholic Church's idea of giant little cherubs. I mean, little babies flying with little wings on their backs. This is what people actually see in the Bible. When we read the Bible, you see primarily, I mean, all the time, men that look like men and they look human because they have physical features that men have. And so, I think it's interesting to see that it could absolutely be people in here that are not actually people. I'm just saying, she's on to something. Hey, hey, don't give me that smirk.

1:32:31 It could happen. I'm just saying. Well, I will say, in defense of David Grush, Ross Coulthard, the guy who came out with the interview from News Nation in the first place, recently made the comment that David Grush apparently is autistic and said that people who, because people were doing body language analysis of it, we showed a little bit of that on the channel when it first came out. And he said that maybe some people aren't aware of this and they haven't factored this into their analysis of his body language and his cadence, but he is an autistic man. And he said, sometimes he can come across as weird in the way he says things or his mannerisms can be a little strange. But he, Ross said, anyone who is familiar with somebody who has autism, they'll easily be able to see that David Grush has that condition as well in his defense. Now, that's not to say that anybody else there might not be.

1:33:28 It could be Tim Burchett for all we know. He puts on a good front and then he just goes, I'm just going to peel it off. So, are you interested to know more about reverse engineering these things? I think this is interesting that this is coming out in the actual under oath, because this is something that's highly debated even among ufology, especially Christians. And so, for them to actually talk about this I think is pretty weird. Check this out. Mr. Grush, I might have asked this before, but I want to make sure. Do you have any personal knowledge of someone who's possibly been injured working on legacy UAP reverse engineering? Yes. Okay. How were they injured? Was it, is it something like a radioactive type situation or something we didn't understand? I've heard people talk about Havana syndrome type incidences.

1:34:31 What was your recollection of that? I don't think it in the specifics, but you could imagine assessing an unknown unknown, there's a lot of potentialities you can't fully prepare for. Are you aware of any individuals that are participating in reverse engineering programs for non-terrestrial craft? Personally, yes. Do you know any that would be willing to testify if there were protections for them? Certainly closed door and assurances that breaking their NDA, they're not going to get administratively punished. Yeah. I yield. That's for sure. Fascinating. Fascinating. Fascinating. I mean, even if it's a huge deception, it is really interesting that, let's just take that just for a moment, because I know this is debated and I can already hear people saying, emailing me.

1:35:22 So listen, for a moment, take the goggles off and say, okay, we have a craft on this earth that is not made by human hands. And what, whatever theology you fall under, potentially, wow. I mean, just for a moment, imagine what you could learn from that. The problem is that it's in the hands of the Defense Department. The Defense Department wants to use it to defend the country. They want to use it to kill people. Maybe not just defense. Yeah. Maybe offense as well. Yeah. So I think that's where the rubber meets the road, is that this plan has been devised for hundreds of years.

1:36:13 And they know exactly what they're doing. And so that's what's going on here. They're fueling the war machine. And so what we've seen, what's interesting to me about this is that it could potentially, boy, I already hear the naysayers. It could potentially, vindicate Bob Lazar. And if anybody knows about Bob Lazar, he is a very smart scientist that claims, he claims that he was offered to work on reverse engineering of these craft in the S4 area of Area 51, which is somewhere around Area 51 area. And no one believed him. There's been documentaries made about him. And he says, no, absolutely. And the funny thing is that this is saying exactly what he's saying. So I'm not saying he's true. I'm just saying it's an interesting story.

1:37:14 Bob Lazar is an interesting guy for this whole theme. And to talk about this under oath and say, yeah, we have craft that are being reverse engineered. You kind of got to scratch your head and go, what's going on here? So we know what's going on here. What do you think about that? I'd say originally I was in the camp that there was no physical craft or anything like that. I thought that this was purely a like hallucinatory type of a thing where you would see things, perceive things, but there wasn't actually anything sitting in a lab day in and day out, where, you know, you go home, turn the lights out, come back, turn the lights on and it's there.

1:38:05 And you're working with it year after year. It begs the question, how did it get there? Where did it come from? I was thinking back to Roswell and that happened in the late forties. And Roswell, that was a long time ago. We're looking at 70 years. I imagine that anyone who was holding any significant rank at that time is dead and gone. So if there were corroborators, is what I'm saying, is if humans somehow, maybe under the influence of demonic entities, were able to craft something and present it, pretend it was crash landed and then give it to them. This is a scenario that I've come up with and run through my head. It's hard. It's a hard thing to understand, but all those people would be dead at this point in time. And then we'd really just be running off of whatever story that was given to us. Napoleon Bonaparte, he had a pretty interesting quote.

1:39:07 And he said that history is a set of lies agreed upon. And that, I mean, the guy, the guy's brother was like head of Masonic lodges. So I think that he knew a thing or two about the lies that we've all agreed to believe in. Yeah. I mean, bring it back around at this point in time, I have, I have to conclude that it seems likely that there is some type of physical, we'll call it craft. I don't think it's really a craft. I think it's some type of demonic technology, either inspired, right? Demonically inspired mankind, kind of like a Jack Parsons situation came up with it, or they manifested it directly. And humans have been playing with it for decades at this point in time. But yeah, it is crazy. Yeah.

1:40:00 I think on Coast to Coast AM, it was the Blink-182 guy, Tom DeLonge, that said he channeled something that, or he heard someone that did channel it, that said these entities told them. And again, this is demonic deceivers, but they were saying, yeah, these things have been created layer by layer, almost as if they were 3D printed in a giant angel 3D printer. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is it that you refer to the phenomenon as non-human intelligence why deviate from the basis of extraterrestrial life I think the phenomenon is very complex and I like to leave an open mind analytically to specific origin when you say specific origin are you referring can you elaborate on that for those if it's a traditional extraterrestrial origin or something else that we don't quite understand from either biological or astrophysics perspective yeah I just like to keep an open mind on what it could be yeah okay and referring to your News Nation interview you had referenced specific treaties between governments article 3 of the nuclear arms treaty with Russia identifies UAPs it specifically mentions them to your knowledge are there safety measures in place with foreign governments or other superpowers to avoid an escala escalatory situation in the event that a UAP Oh malevolent malevolent event occurs uh yeah you're referring to actual uh public treaty in the u.n register um it's funny you mentioned that yeah the agreement on measures to reduce the risk of outbreak of nuclear war signed in 1971 uh unclassified treaty publicly available and if you cite the george washington university national security archives you will find the declassified in 2013 specific provisions in the specific uh red line flash message traffic with the specific codes pursuant to article three and article uh also situation two which is in the the previously classified nsa archive what i would recommend and i i tried to get access but i got a wall of silence at the white house was those specific incidents when those message traffic was used. I think some scholarship on that would open the door to a further investigation using those publicly available information.

1:42:55 So there's two things there. One, he's talking about that these things are mentioned in different laws, specifically between Russia. But I think the beginning was the most interesting to me. Why mention that these things are not necessarily extraterrestrial? I wonder if the language that the Pentagon uses was crafted by Christians. As we know, Lou Elizondo was in there and was frustrated because he couldn't get his Christian supervisor to allow him to go forward and disclose this stuff and talk more about it. And he said, you need to squash this project. We know what those things are. Those things are demonic. And so they've crafted this language because probably the people that created the language created it. The rules and laws inside the government realize what this thing is. And that's encouraging. What do you think? Well, the term extraterrestrial, what that kind of points to is that they're not of this earth. So I think removing that label, well, what are we left with? And they're of this earth. One of the main things that the ufologists have been saying is that it will shake people's minds. And they're saying that the earth is the home of creation. These non-human intelligences, maybe they're claiming that earth has been their home before it was our home and that they had a hand in creating humanity and that they've been here all along. They've been watching us and monitoring us through our evolutionary process. I don't believe that, but obviously evolution is what is widely accepted, even amongst people who are nominally Christian.

1:44:44 You'll see they'll do polls every once in a while. And it's just like, does evolution contradict your Christian beliefs? And people are like, no, there could be evolution. And also the Bible is true. It's like, how, how do those two, how do you reconcile those ideas? Don't understand, but okay. They could, they could claim that there's been a guided evolution process and that they've been here this whole time. So they're not extraterrestrial. They are terrestrial. This is maybe their home planet. And they just introduced us as their home planet. And they're not extraterrestrial. They're children. And then also, and I, and sorry, this is so silly. Non-human intelligence, NHI. I want to say NIH for some reason, NHI. It also could be that they're not necessarily from another planet. They're from another dimension. We've seen that mentioned even earlier in the broadcast. So they don't want to say they're necessarily from another planet. They make the point too, that, oh, the nearest galaxy is like a billion light years or whatever away. How do they get here? It's so much easier to just brush that off. If you say, well, we're interdimensional. So we just step into a little pocket and we pop out of the other side and we're wherever we want to be. We don't play by the rules, the physics of your world. So those are the two ideas I have is either they're from earth all along. So they're not extraterrestrial or they're from another dimension and they're not from any planet necessarily. Another thing I've heard them say is that they, they, uh, they monitor, you know, with satellites and stuff, making sure that, that they don't know, no ICBMs are coming in to hit the, hit the country. And they don't see these things. They don't see them coming from outer space. That's what they said. And they see them inside here. And more often they see them coming from the ocean, which is kind of strange to me.

1:46:36 Yeah. So I, I, I don't understand that completely. I have theories about that. I mean, we don't know a lot about our oceans. And if these things are transmedium, um, then why not have a congregation or a giant meeting every hundred years under the ocean, or maybe cities of angels that live down there? We don't know. Atlantis, Bradley, don't you? Haven't you ever heard of the legend of Atlantis? Oh, that's, that opens up all kinds of things, doesn't it? An advanced civilization, you know, that, yeah, I think that the Atlantis, Atlantis is like this really weird thing. And I do think that the whole idea of them being underwater or having underwater bases. I think it probably will come to the forefront or even like you're saying the dark side of the moon or something, but whatever the case is, they're based very close to us, uh, rather than there's like a fleet or whatever beyond our, our sensors. I was also going to say good, good mentioning.

1:47:32 So not only do we have NHI, we have UAP and even UAP has undergone a change because start out with UFO. Everybody knows UFO, even little kids know UFO. Yeah. Unidentified flying object. We all think of the little flying saucer, you know, whatever. Then they go to UAP. It was unidentified aerial phenomenon. Okay. It's stuff flying around in the air. The official definition now is unidentified anomalous phenomenon, which no longer limits it to the air. It's just like, you're saying it could be the sea. It could be space. It could be wherever terrestrial, you know, who knows? Maybe they have a little caves that. They live in. I don't know. Yeah. I have a feeling. We'll find out soon enough. I do. Whatever the lie is.

1:48:20 I do too. I absolutely. Um, on, on that note, I want to jump back to a commercial pilots real quick because I have a, I have actually the beginning of this channel. We talked a little bit about, remember how we talked just in the beginning of the show about how commercial pilots are seeing this as well. Um, yes. Yeah. I have a pastor. Who's also a pilot who I worked for, for many years. Um, yeah. Yeah. And, um, he, uh, I had him on the program. We were kind of, um, tongue in cheek talking about, uh, the Bible and, uh, how the story in the New Testament. I think Paul talks about it where he, he says he was, uh, abducted. And I used that, uh, loosely just to, just to make a program. But I asked him about it and see what he thought about it. He said something very interesting. He says, I'm a pilot. I see these things.

1:49:08 Check this out. Revelation 21, 10 says that, John had been abducted as he said, I was carried away in the spirit. And John saw a new Jerusalem descending from the heaven from the sky. Was John carried away by technologically advanced beings? And is this a giant city? Is it describing a UFO? Well, of course, UFO is just an unidentified flying object. Uh, and, uh, I, I'm a pilot and I've encountered many UFOs flying. Sometimes they're later identified. Sometimes you can't tell what it is. So, but we typically think of a spaceship now when people say UFO. Well, this is a city in space. And, uh, you know, any star Trek group, he has no problem believing in the city in space.

1:49:58 We've got a international space station that theoretically like Lego blocks can keep on growing. So man's got that technology. Now, why wouldn't God have that technology? It's to me, it's a very small thing. Uh, but, uh. Uh, but when John was shown this and he sees the new Jerusalem coming down, he probably didn't leave very far from the earth. In fact, I think one place that says he was on a mountain and, um, he's, he sees the city coming down. So, um, he has seen something that's coming down out of heaven to the earth. And, um, yeah, the city is, um, a flying dwelling place. But yeah, I entirely believe that's possible. You know, you read other places in revelation. It talks about like revelation 12 verse nine. It said, um, therefore, um, well actually verse 12, it says, therefore rejoice. Oh heavens and you who dwell in them.

1:50:56 So the Bible is describing intelligent creatures that can rejoice in heaven or the heavens, which is, you know, plural. It's beyond this earth. It's not just talking about, you know, clouds where angels play harps or something. So yeah, God has creatures out there and, um, how they get around probably varies from one creature to another. So that's interesting. I, I mainly, uh, surrounded that clip with the rest of the story because I could have just used, uh, that portion where he talked about, uh, seeing things as a pilot. But I thought it was fascinating that he included that little, little portion in there that says, uh, yeah, I'm a pilot and I've seen things and I, I don't, I can't describe them. I don't understand what those things were that I saw. It's a good chance he might've seen a UAP. Of course, as a pilot, you don't talk about that just as the fighter pilot don't talk about it because then you, if you're seeing things as a flight and you're flying around, they might take your license away.

1:51:54 Who knows? But, um, I, I think nowadays it's probably, uh, a little less stigmatized. What do you think about that, Matthew? Yeah, I think it was cool that he brought up Revelation 12, 12, cause we just had that earlier in the broadcast. So definitely knows that there are, uh, beings observing. Fortunately, there are good beings as well as the bad ones. Uh, I, I imagine that he's not alone and seeing some weird stuff as a pilot. You know, anyone who's dealing with navigation equipment or any type of sensors, you're going to see weird stuff. I don't know necessarily if he saw it with his own eyeballs. Is that what he was kind of alluding to? Or what?

1:52:40 I think so. I've, I've been asking if I could get him back on the program. I have only sent him one email, uh, saying, hey, we should talk about this. But you know, I, I, his focus is, um, evangelism and the Bible. And so I, yeah, to, to, it's, it's hard for me to say, hey, let's talk about your experience because I don't, I don't want to give, uh, any glory to, you know, uh, what demonic entity he saw, obviously. But at the same time, I think it's, it's a, it's a fascinating story that he, he included a little, little sound bite for. I mean, you'll ask him about it privately one time. Okay. Yeah. I, I'd be interested to know more. I would too. If, if he would share. Because I think it's important as Christians that we get out in front of this, you know? I mean, the time is almost becoming too late to get out in front of it because it's getting away from us. It's getting away from everybody. It's going to just smack into the earth like you wouldn't believe. So keep on sounding the alarm, people.

1:53:37 That's right. Even if it seems ridiculous. You'd be falling on deaf ears. I'm telling you, if you're a Christian and you're saying, it's funny, my wife actually told me today she was in at work and one of her coworkers said randomly to her, hey, did you hear the government saying that aliens exist now? Isn't that crazy? This is kind of like a ditzy girl that she works with. And she just said, my wife is, she's very upfront. She just said, yeah, I believe that there are aliens and that they're actually demons. And that they're part of the end time deception. And it means Jesus Christ is coming back soon. And the girl said, huh, yeah, you know, I believe in Jesus too. And just kind of left it there. Didn't go any further. So at least all you could hope for is in that little interaction as if this stuff, not even if at this point, we'll just say when.

1:54:31 It seems to be more of a matter of when than if. This happens. The people who you've talked to, the seed that you've spread, hopefully it just, it raises in their mind and they go, wait a second. I remember the conversation. I need to be leery about this. I need to be a little more cautious. And maybe, just maybe, I'm going to open my Bible that's been sitting on my shelf collecting dust because we've got a lot of Christians who are not in the word. Well, you know, maybe nominal Christians. I don't know. I don't like to pass judgment over people like that. I'm not the judger of souls. And I don't want to be. I'm so grateful that God has that position because I would screw it up. I really would. But I think that a lot of people, regardless of their level of faith, need to be opening their Bibles so that when this happens, they can overcome the deception.

1:55:27 Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's a great conclusion. But I have another video. One more video. So check this out. This is kind of the after show that I was talking about. It has a really interesting clip. It's about three minutes long. And it's concluding what they were all talking about. Kind of like the little, the main players in the party. And they're kind of talking amongst themselves. This is a Forbys video. Watch this. It's like a glacier. I mean, you know, we get to fight every step of the way. But I think the American public. And here's what's going to happen. A few of the big shots in Congress are going to get a call from some of their donors saying, hey, let's get to the bottom of this. And they're going to start getting interested.

1:56:22 I've had so many congressmen put a bug in my ear saying, man, some of them have told me they've had sightings. And they're afraid to say anything. And they're glad we're doing it. So I think we're knocking the varnish off of it a little bit with this. We're not going to bring you in a saucer or a little green man. That's not what it's going to be about. And I know y'all, every time you play this interview with one of us, you play the theme from X-Files. I get it. But the reality is the American public deserves to know. And you better be careful about a government that doesn't trust its people. Because there's no telling what they'll pull on you. I'm sure Jared could say that a lot more eloquently. I did earlier. But I want to give Tim a lot of credit going back to some of your questions, which is this is a really simple hearing. It's about oversight.

1:57:13 And I'm a really simple guy. Is that what you're getting at? No, I wasn't going there. But it was really hard for him to get this scheduled. It was hard for him to get it scheduled. It was hard for Congressman Luna to get it scheduled. It was hard to get a room. It was hard to get staff on board. It was hard to get approval. Every single step that they had to go through to make this hearing happen next week, the witnesses, they were stonewalled. And they had to push and push and push. Again. There's nothing to talk about. Why was it so difficult? And that, again, is what breeds these theories and these concerns. And so I think the best thing that can happen, quite frankly, just to end this whole debate, is just, like, let's hear the testimony and let the government come forward and figure out what they have and share it with the American people.

1:57:59 Anybody else? Yes, ma'am. I think that it's probably going to be the start. What Representative Burchett, myself, and my colleagues behind me have realized is that, ultimately, as elected members and being assigned to House oversight and accountability, we can conduct field hearings. And if we continue to get stonewalled, if we smell that they're giving us a bunch of BS, we are going to do the field hearings directly at those locations. And we're going to open it up to the press because full transparency really is what we need in this situation. And ultimately, to piggyback off of what all my colleagues have said, the military, the Pentagon, the intelligence agency, they answer to the people and thus Congress. And so we are going to hold them accountable. So there you go. This isn't the end. This is only the beginning. And they are planning to do a lot more. You're going to see a lot more content coming out here on Strange Normal. So make sure you hit that subscribe button.

1:59:03 Hit that little bell icon because you ain't seen nothing yet. You really haven't. This is going to get absolutely nuts. Go for it. The ball is rolling. The cat is out of the bag. It really is. And you heard it. You heard her say it's about accountability, too. Like I had mentioned earlier, now that they are pointing this more and then this is an illegal type of a thing, that has a lot more steam behind it than just, oh, there's aliens. Oh, there's craft that's somewhere. It's no. They're misappropriating government funds. What? You can't steal from the government. We'll get them yet. And that's part of it, too. I think it's cool. Tim Burchett, he seems to be really into this. I feel like he's the rising star as far as politicians in the UFO realm because you're right.

1:59:55 I don't know. I didn't know he said that, but he mentioned the X-Files clip and that's the X-Files theme being played over all the stuff and people making a mockery of it. Yeah, that's something that, you know, I've noticed just time and time again. We do it on this show whenever we have to show anything from a mainstream media outlet or even some of the lesser, you know, mainstream media outlets. Or even some of the lesser alternative outlets depending on who it is. They make all of the UFO segments a joke and it's for no reason either other than to just mock it. Stigmatize it, yeah. Yeah, right. And stigmatize it because it's like, oh, we're going to talk about something weird for a little bit. You know, they go into it and they have someone come out in a green man outfit and they're like, oh, there he is. He's in the studio. So that shows to show you, though, how much media has an influence. Yeah. Even if they don't even say it, the music they use, the way they talk about it, the emphasis they use on it, it all can affect the people.

2:00:53 And they are using that and it has been used for years and years and years, not only just in media but in theater, in art. And it's affecting the minds. I forget what King said this, but he says, I'm more afraid of the poet than I am of the other kingdoms or something similar to that. Yeah. But that's it. That's all she wrote. So you want to close us with prayer, Matthew? Yeah, I can do that. Why not? Father in heaven, thank you for the opportunity to broadcast and come on here and examine some of these and share some scripture as well. It's so wonderful being able to study your word and then contrasting it with the reality that we're living in right now. You are truly good, honest, and righteous. Amen. And you deserve to be God.

2:01:48 You deserve it more than any other being. You're fantastic. Thank you so much. Just please keep our minds safe and secure and don't let us feel any anxiety towards these happenings. Let us just have your peace, the peace that surpasses all understanding. In Jesus's name, amen. Amen. Thank you so much, Matthew. Hang out for just a second. We're going to do a small little short after show. I know it's late. I know it's late, so I'm not going to stick around for very long, but please hang around for just a second. Guys, thank you so much for what you've done. If you want to join us, chat with us on Patreon or on Discord, join patreon.com slash strangenormal. My name is Brad. This has been Pure Strangeness, Absolute Normalcy, Strange Normal. See you next time. Thanks for watching this segment.

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