0:00 He was on a beach one night, then all of a sudden the one light turns into three or four and they start dancing around. Everybody on the beach was just fixated on what was happening in the sky. Mike Stibbs has always been interested in UAPs, but he didn't put all the pieces together until his friend had an unusual encounter with them. This caused Mike to have a turning point in his relationship with Christ. It made such an impact on him that he decided to start a YouTube channel called Project Revelation as he continues his journey to understand this through the lens of the Bible. Before we get into this story, please consider supporting this podcast by donating via Venmo, Cash App, PayPal, Crypto, or Patreon in the description below. And don't forget to subscribe to be notified of future strange events that are a part of your normal life. Now without further ado, let's get into the story. Where are you from, Mike? Well, originally I'm from Riverside, California, grew up there.
1:20 I started playing in a band when I was a teenager and I wasn't a Christian as a teenager. And so I was playing in the Hollywood circuit and all of that. And eventually I did. It wasn't by anything that I did, but Christ came and he wrecked my world. To say the least. Wow. So you, you are, are currently in California and you grew up in California, that Southern California area? Um, well right now, um, I've, I've done since I got, since I have been a Christian, I have done quite a lot of moving around. So, uh, currently I'm in Northwest Montana. Oh, wow. Oh, okay. So you're, you're all the way you've moved out there into the, into the sticks, I guess, into the country area.
2:12 Yes. That's cool. That's very good. I, uh, I much prefer to be out there because it's a little more, a little more rural is, is kind of my thing. But, um, so what brought you, uh, from, from what I understand you, you run a channel. What made you, uh, begin this channel or what started that whole story beyond, beyond, um, uh, what you're doing, what, what you're doing right now? How did that come to be? Yeah. So, um, just a little bit of the backstory there of just. How I got into this topic in the first place, but, you know, I was playing in a band and, um, I was always into the alien topic. Okay. Um, as a non-Christian, but I was 30 years old.
2:59 I ended up in a church in a crazy circumstance. God hit me. I got saved. And all of those things that were before I was saved that I would, that I believed it. You know, especially with the alien topic, I kind of just thought to myself, well, you know, I'm a Christian. Now I'm just going to throw this stuff to the side. I don't need to worry about it. I don't need to think about it. And, um, I was only about six months in when the Lord brought a ministry opportunity to me to minister to a young gentleman who had a very, uh, uh, stark encounter with a UFO and I didn't know how to address it. And, um, and I told him, I said, you know, man, I don't know what you saw. I don't know what you were feeling. It doesn't sound like it's a God thing, but let me pray about it. And so this, this, uh, young, uh, man was in my life for, I don't know, about three or four months.
4:08 And so over this period, uh, the Lord really started to bring. This, this topic up to me. And so I did a lot of research, um, basically just reading the Bible, trying to figure out what was going on. And so that is what sparked my interest in this. And so it took me, you know, 10 years before I even decided to start a YouTube channel, never really felt called to, to ministry in that capacity. Um, but, but then it got to the point where, um, I felt like the Lord was, uh, pretty much telling me, this is what I want you to do. I want you just to start, you know, experimenting with, uh, videos and trying to edit stuff. And, you know, this, um, this rabbit hole goes pretty deep and the deception that's going on out there.
5:06 It, it is, it's very scary. And so I feel like, I feel like there's, there's some of us that are. There's some of us that are called out there to be, you know, talking about this subject because, you know, this is a gradual thing that's been happening since the beginning of humanity. Yeah. And I think what we're, what we're coming to is we are literally living in probably the most exciting time in history for a Christian. I believe it. And, um, because it's, yeah, it's purpose, you know, our purpose is to be preaching Christ. Um, in the midst of a perverted generation that believes falsely and, you know, and we'll, we'll talk about this a little bit more later, but, you know, when I go to church and they start singing that song, that Chris Tomlin song, you know, um, he's the name above all names.
6:03 It just in light of this topic, he's the name above all names. He's, he is the creator. He is the one who created. These beings that are deceiving humanity. And so when we say things like that, it's just like going to church, isn't just, you know, something that we do for tradition, you know what I mean? And it's just, it's that worship that we're giving to him. And, you know, Jesus is being revealed to us through this topic. Yes. Yes. You know, what's amazing to me is, uh, the, the further, further. I got into this, um, this topic, the more I realized that it is a religion repackaged. And I mean, I mean, everyone says it's almost cliche that the UFO thing is a religion, but it really is the same religious ideas repackaged in different formats, different terminology to the point where it's skewed just enough to make it completely off.
7:10 But it looks. From the, from the, the outside to be, to be really, really, uh, um, what's the word I want, uh, uh, uh, interesting to the, to the observer, because we are, we are, we're beings that we want to, um, believe in something different. And that's the tagline of this whole thing is, Hey, uh, I, I, I want to believe. Well, these, there's so many people that want to believe and they, they, uh, they're just, just. Believing in the wrong thing. It's a belief. It's a, it's a, it's a get, it's a, it's a hope. I mean, so many things parallel the Christianity so closely, but there's so closely off. It's, it's, it's just amazing deception. How did, um, how did you find out that this thing, I mean, how'd you go from believing in UFOs?
8:06 That's what I understand. You, you understand, uh, you used to believe and then become saved as you said. And then. Um, you, how'd you tie it back together and realize that this, this is going to be a big deal someday. Where, where did that come from? Yeah, that was, um, pretty much just a 10 year process, I guess. Um, um, I had, um, not to go into deep to the subject, but I was, um, a really, uh, bad drug addict for many years. And, um, I would, uh, take psychedelic drugs. And so one of the things that I started seeing the connection was that, and people can check out the video I made on this on my YouTube channel, but there, there is a connection of these entities that are manipulating humanity, not only through the, the UFO type of subject, but the parallels between that and the psychedelic drug realm of them.
9:11 Um, and it's very big. I mean, uh, Joe Rogan, one of the most influential people on this earth right now is constantly talking about it of doing these. I don't even want to give it a mention, but, um, there is, there is, um, a connection there that's undeniable, but yeah. So, so for me, it was, it was coming to this place where. I knew I had an encounter with God. Now I didn't see him with my eyes. I didn't see Jesus with my eyes, but there was an encounter that I had with him in a church environment. And I thank God for that pastor of being there and having, doing what he does. So people like me can come in. Um, but I had an encounter and I, I had to walk. I, when I walked away from that experience with God, I had to make the decision.
10:09 Look, either. This is something. My mind is making up or God is who he says that he is. Okay. And it was so, I couldn't, I couldn't walk away from it, but the thing was, is that he wasn't saying that I'm the God of Islam or I'm the God of the Hindus or one of the gods. It was Jesus. I mean, and that, that, um, witness in my spirit, it was undeniable. So going back to this gentleman, okay. That I was ministering to, and I'll share a little bit of his story. Um, he tells a story that he was on a beach one night and he said that there was probably, uh, 40 or 50 people spread out in a half a mile stretch of the beach. And all of a sudden these one light shows up in the sky and it starts to dance around.
11:07 And then all of a sudden the one light turns into three or four and they start dancing. And then he said, all of a sudden it was like a portal had opened up and right on the beach and everybody on the beach was, was just fixated on what was happening in the sky. And so the next thing that he told me, it got me and it will forever be etched in my memory of how he explained this. But he said that I couldn't tell you what it looked like. Like I have no reference. Like he says, I can't tell you it looked like a TV or it looked like a bus. He says, I was seeing colors and shapes that I have no reference point to tell. Wow. And then he says that it was accompanied by this feeling that there was nowhere that he could go to hide.
12:02 And there was a consciousness that was attached to this light show. And he said, it felt like no matter. He says, it felt like they were in his mind, that they could hear his thoughts and they could read him. And I asked him, I said, well, well, you know, did it, was it like a good feeling? And he's, he's like, no, it was not a good feeling. It was like an evil type of presence that was attached to it. And he started at this point, he started to cry. As he's told me this story and I'm like, dude, I have no idea what to tell you, you know? And so what happened in this, in the next four months, is the Lord started to bring me to, um, some teachings on dimensions. And once I started to understand, um, just on the surface, not the deep quantum physic type of stuff, but the, of how the dimensions are theorized.
13:02 And then it made sense that if God created other beings that, um, it says in the book of Psalms, and I can't remember the name of it, but it says, I can't remember the reference right now, but where he says that he made man a little lower than the angels. Um, but that is what, that's what got me started on this journey. And then, so, you know, I came across a lot of research from other people and then it just got to the point, you know, where we're like, uh, where God's like telling me, you know, you gotta, you gotta do this, man. You gotta start this channel and you gotta start talking about some of these things because it's a global. I mean, it's a global, I want, I hate to say conspiracy, but it's a, it's happening on a global level and some of the top people in, in governments around the world are either wanting to see UFOs or channeling them through meditation and claiming that they're getting, uh, they're getting information from these beings.
14:08 Yeah, man. Isn't that something? Yeah. And, uh, I've been watching many, uh, many of these interviews with, um, um, Lou Elizondo. I'm sure you've, you've heard of this guy and, uh, he's been kind of the, the, he's the government representative that has, um, left the government and has been, has been outspoken about what's going on here. And, uh, he, he's, uh, trying to take this a very fact, fact-based, uh, sense and not presenting his opinion, which I deeply respect, but I'm really concerned about him and coming too far out with this topic. Because the more we talk about it, the more interested people become, and, uh, perhaps someday, you know, if something bad happens, people are going to say, Hey, you know, all these things that we've been seeing, maybe we should try to contact him because I don't know what else to do. And that's the scary part to me when people don't have it, when the nation doesn't have God, basically, they're going to reach out to things that aren't God. I don't know how this whole thing is going to come to come, come down, except what the Bible says, but it's, it's really fascinating to try to see what's happening in our generation right now.
15:09 And, and. And, uh, perhaps get to see the final culmination of stuff, but, but back on your topic, I'm totally off on a tangent right now. Cause it's a very fascinating topic. Um, how did you, you also told me that you, um, take, we're going to take two steps back just for a second. Um, you also work for another, uh, YouTube channel. Is that right? Or can you talk about that? Um, yeah, I could talk about that. Um, so this actually, this all ties in, um, is. Well, um, I work for a, uh, a precious metals company that's actually Christian based. And so that, so that's part of my story here. So I, I work on another, um, another YouTube channel, um, that produces content, um, about finances and, you know, talks about, you know, the financial situation that's going on, you know, as right now we know, uh, inflation is, uh, definitely off the charts and that's actually.
16:09 If you look at that, some of the top Google searches, inflation is one of them because I think, um, you know, I would say anybody like, you know, under 30 right now, they don't really quite grasp. Well, why is my dollar not buying me so much? So, yeah, I, I work on another YouTube channel, um, as well. It's called rigged against you. Um, all based, uh, Christian, um, kind of stuff there too. Fascinating. Very, very good. I'd like to check that out. Cause I. We, we are very, my wife and I, as we have moved out of the, out of California, we, um, we are very interested in to where to put, uh, some of the finances that we've gotten from selling our house. And, uh, that's, that's, uh, that's always a very big concern because we've seen other countries and what they've had, what has, has happened to them when they've gone through some severe inflation. And we don't want that to happen to the United States, but, but at the same time, we know that God is. At the end, before, before the second coming of Christ, there's going to be all kinds of stuff that's happening and it's going to be, get, get very rough.
17:15 So I'm, I'm not going to be surprised that this is a part of it. Inflation is going to be a very difficult time. In fact, the Bible talks about how it's going to be difficult to say even buy and sell in that time. And as I don't want to go into too far into that, into this topic, because I mean, we can go off on so many tangents with just those two topics. Um, I, I am fascinated with, um, with your continued story about the, the, the, um, how you got into the UFO topic. Um, is, is that the culmination of everything? Um, as you said, the dealing with that, that friend of yours that, uh, had had this amazing, uh, thing with the people on the beach is, is that where the story ends or is, did it go, does it go further than that? Well, yeah, that's just, I mean, pretty much, um, what happened with that young man, um, is. I was eventually, um, during this four month process, um, and, um, at that time he was, he was going through a lot of stuff. And so he was best friends with one of my roommates at the time.
18:18 And so he was hanging around all the time. So just in ministering to him, I was finally able to give him an answer of what happened. And so he, uh, he accepted Christ, you know, and, um, he was getting demonically attacked, um, all the time as well. And, you know, we just figured, you know, Hey, look, the door was opened. Let's shut that door, you know, and let's stop that. And so the last I heard of him, um, he was, you know, he was, uh, saved and doing well. Um, but for me, my journey, you know, in to go further into this topic, um, you know, and I want to say this next part with a little bit of caution, because I think that. I think that sometimes, you know, we can blame certain people, but they become a part of our journey, but I was going to a church and I was so fascinated with this topic. And so every time I would bring it up with my pastors, I would just get shut down and they, they would tell me like, Oh, don't worry about that.
19:30 You don't need to worry about that. And, um, I listened, you know, I did. I listened. And I said, well, you know, God, you know, just telling the Lord in my personal time, if this is something you don't want me to be talking about or worrying about, and it's not that I'm worried, you know, cause that's, we have the authority over them. Um, then just take it from me, you know, just, just take it away. And it just, it was like every time that I would put this subject down, I can't explain it, but we know that when we're close to God, as we know the, the chastening of him, when we're not doing. What he wants us to do. And, um, I would just feel that. And, you know, it's just, you know, I just become passionate about preaching the gospel of Jesus, of who he is through this topic, but it hasn't been easy because, you know, I've, I've got shut down and they tell me, you know, Oh, it's just demonic.
20:28 And yeah, it, it's not just demonic, but yes, it's demonic in nature. Um, but too many people are having too many experiences. And now that we see this in the news and you mentioned Lou Elizondo and he's an interesting character to say the least, you know, cause he'll cause they'll ask him, I, you kind of mentioned it a little bit, but they'll ask him, Hey, uh, so what do you think it is? Well, I don't want to offer my opinion, but then he, but then he says, but we're not alone. Yeah. Or we may not be alone or he'll talk about the, um, just the fabric. Fabric of reality of what we are understanding about that through even CERN and the extra dimensions. And, you know, what I see, what I see with all of this is it, it has to do at the core of it. And it's just as, this is just like the story that's in my head, you know, everybody's got their own, you know, way of interpreting this, but it's all about cosmology, like the origin of humanity.
21:36 And how we got here. And that's where a lot of that deception lies because we understand God created humankind. He created angels. There's a certain order that's there. And so what the, um, I'll say the new age and like the occultists want to do, um, and the ancient alien propaganda guys out there, what they want to do is take that cosmology then tell us, well, you don't. You don't quite understand the origin of humanity. You're just, it's just, uh, the Bible is just how they were interpreting those events. And then, then I'll, I always take that back to my experience of meeting God, God, when God hit me. And it was like this, that special place that only God can touch, you know, it wasn't, I'm the God of these, this alien race, or I'm the God of this alien race. I'm the God of this alien race. I'm the God of this alien race. I'm the God of this alien race. I'm the God of this alien race. I'm the God of this Islam. No, it was all about Jesus. And that to me, it's just so fascinating.
22:44 Um, when we look at it from that angle and the fact that, and I saw when I'm watching your documentary, you saw, you have my buddy, Joe Jordan. Yes. Uh-huh. And, and he, he like, he'll say it. He's like, man, like we use the scientific method in interviewing hundreds of a duck of a duck. Not these. And Jesus stops them. Just the mention of Jesus stops them. 99.99% of the time. And now, and now that I said that, and maybe this will open up a can of worms, but I had an experience about a year and a half before I was saved in the name of Jesus stopped that. Wow. On a dime. And it was, um, it was just a weird thing, but saying Jesus stopped it, but it wasn't a real thing. It was in the mind, you know? and um yeah there's there's i think there's some different phenomenons going on with all of that but it all points to the enemy and deception yeah you know it's it's interesting that you said that when you went to all your pastors and they said hey don't worry about that right now it's it's a general idea i mean even among the churches that i go to that um that this thing is is is uh since it's so generally perceived as demonic and i'm glad it is in the churches that we shouldn't have anything to do with it but if it is going to be the big deception ephesians 5 11 says i actually have it up right here have nothing to do with the fruits and deeds of darkness but rather expose them and so that's the whole idea for the christian is to hey don't be involved in it but hey you should spread the word that this stuff is dangerous so that if the time comes that this stuff does become well known and prevalent that we would save as many as possible and so i i i deeply respect what many pastors are doing and i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i by by not uh going to that area but i think there needs to be some conversation about it especially if it becomes mainstream as it has been well you know it's really interesting because all this all this stuff that's happening right now uh just simply saying the name of jesus can can stop it i had an experience as well that uh was very very interesting um i i did a youtube video about it which i went probably into way too much detail it's the only video on my channel that people watch and uh they it talks a little bit about um the uh they call it night paralysis and uh when i first started into this topic it was um i was experiencing this and so i decided you know this is strange i don't know what's going on i'm not scared of this topic but every time i go to sleep i wake up with this phenomenon and i i i'm gonna quit researching this for a while this was 10 years ago and um and it immediately stopped and i thought you know what i'm not touching this stuff anymore but when it started becoming mainstream yeah that's when i realized you know something has to be done about this and i go into further detail about this and the video on my channel talking about uh when those who watch you at night attack and and the good part is that jesus can stop all of this but he's a gentleman and he will wait for your choice to to to say hey i need your help and uh but the the most amazing part about this whole thing is that the spiritual realm that we can't see right now is real anyway i'm i'm i'm sermonizing how did you continue on down this path and to join the youtube system yeah so um so i found myself i found myself working um for this company and uh you know eventually i took over uh the youtube channel and um you know learning how to edit you know a tv show and whatnot and then that was that was really where the lord was like okay now it's your turn now it's your turn just you know
26:39 start start you know preaching and uh teaching and preaching from you know the perspective that he's given me with all of this stuff so you know it's still a journey you know it's um to convey all of these you know you know connections and with the bible and with current events you know it's not the easiest thing in the world to do it's not the easiest thing in the world to do it's not the easiest thing in the world to do and you know it's like we're just you know and watching your stuff too i'm like no this is this guy's a brother man he's going after it to to tell this to tell jesus's story through this and so yeah that's that's how i ended up in it i never you know i was i didn't go to school for editing or anything like that um i just kind of fell backwards into it but um you know uh i think every christian out there you know whether no matter what you do you're like you are called to a purpose yes and you know being close to jesus and with through prayer and through reading your bible it just awakens you to that purpose that he has for us and that to me is probably the most beautiful thing because i look i look at what i do and it's it's getting better all the time but i know for a fact when i watch something i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my that's good that i did i'm going back i know it had nothing to do with me yeah it's the first time i really understood grace because of the fact that it was something that now i'm deeply i'm deeply um uh involved in editing and and trying to convey this information but it wasn't something that i ever saw myself doing you know i was a musician i always you know before i was a christian like oh i'll just play christian music and that didn't happen and it's not in my heart to do that you know and it's like just god when he calls you to that purpose um there's something just beautiful with that and i always try to you know encourage christians alike as to you know what do you feel like god is pointing you into you know i mean it's all always you know pointing to jesus but how are you going to to lift up jesus with your everyday life and i mean there's so much purpose with that and um just fulfillment you know um in your relationship as you start to co-labor with the creator of the universe and that to me it just blows my mind absolutely wow wow what an amazing story well i'm so glad to have you like you said a brother in christ uh spreading this word i mean even inside my own denomination it's it's just just not talked about enough i think and i think we need to gather outside because obviously i mean even though you have all these different ideas i like how you say on on your video many of your videos say you know although we don't agree we need to talk about this right i don't that's not quote for quote but it's it's very important that regardless of our differences that we bind together because ultimately i hope you're going to be my neighbor in heaven someday and that that is the ultimate goal is to is to to be with christ in heaven and uh bring bring as many people with us as possible amen amen that's that's where the war is man because right now that's we're seeing it play out it's like uh it's a war of worship are you going to worship the true god or these other thing things that are out there and uh that's where i just see it man if i i just want to take as many people as we can you know and uh yeah man it it's so crazy what's going on right now i mean 10 years ago i would never thought that this this conversation would be would it be happening in our lifetime you know that that there's you know and a quote unquote because it just depends on how the story plays out but an actual full-on disclosure of another race and i say quote unquote because we know who they are you know i don't believe that there's you know at least from my perspective right now i'm open to possibilities there's other planets out there with with you know beings on them that are coming here and you know i in this realm you'll we will run into christians that will start saying that and i think it goes back to that cosmology and we got to be we got to be super careful when it comes to how we're viewing the universe and that cosmology and once it starts to
31:32 be taught that's a little bit of a thing that's a little bit of a thing that's a little bit of a off we need to just reject stuff like that because we could just be a little bit off but then be full-on deceived absolutely yeah yeah i i i i don't know what i believe about that either but i do i do believe that um if the bible doesn't say anything about it perhaps we should be quiet about it so and i i uh i like to bring it straight back to the bible because that's ultimately that's our guidebook it's the i know it wasn't originally this acronym but i liked it basic instructions before leaving earth right it's the bible but um it's it's fascinating topic and it's it's and and we can see throughout by by just going to uh our channel your channel my channel watching starfall or any there's actually another documentary that's made by my official nine-to-five work called disclosed that uh was made in parallel to mine uh they they took it from a non-christian perspective and showed christ and i took it from a christian perspective trying to bring in both angles and uh it's it was really fascinating i really like how they did it um they did a professional job but um both it just needs to be spread we need to talk about it more we need to bring people use this method as a tool to bring people closer to to reading about the bible reading about christ reading about the true god that uh is not these false gods that will appear someday amen anyways it's really good to have you on mike i thank you so much for for coming on and telling your story because i i think we need to talk more about these stories and not uh not keep them as taboo because these these are important things they're they're part of our testimony and even our testimony can be kind of strange sometimes or when we do say see strange things we need to step out and say hey these these are things that are um that that need to be spoken about because we need to find an answer to them um because it could be demonic and uh that's the that's the dangerous part so thank you for coming on tonight today and i'll uh i'll be looking for more videos on your channel thank you thank you very much for having me on i've been been a blessed conversation here