0:05 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.
1:07 The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. This is a Department of Defense official saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Bill, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately?
2:01 And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God. Always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as we see these as we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confuse Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship. There was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky.
2:52 And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere. And then they on the morning, they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experience, quote, perceived time suspension, ghosts and other spirit in all. That report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and over 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases. Whatever that means, Lou Elizondo. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the U.S.
3:42 Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively. I I started to have these follow on. Experiences with the phenomenon. That was like the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night because my job was classified and I had access to classified. I was kind of aware this was not a one off event for the Navy. This these things happen frequently, all the time. They happen all the time. Barbara. Both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative.
4:44 In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I was involved with a. Cult practices for almost a full decade and after my conversion, if you will, I felt it. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was just a hallucination or a. To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding of ghosts, any, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders.
5:52 And Jesus warns in the gospel of Luke and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So. We need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. OK. And so the government has had and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us with separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow.
6:39 There is something going on here. Right. This is out. It's in Congress and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. What's going on here? Absolutely. I saw that I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system. It's different than a religion, but it's religious like what they're seeing in the sky today is what they believe to be like advanced technology. Whereas a thousand years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel. Or. Or maybe that's a demon. Today, they look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people almost like a religious conversion experience.
7:33 It changes their worldview. It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally. Completely. Changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. My name is Tom DeLonge. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink 182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon. The term, the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon than, and that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats.
8:31 And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible. Other religions and the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man, period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. We've passed the 11 minute mark. Now T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christianity. It's going to affect our Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome.
9:22 And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning. We won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning. But there is information coming from another world. And once it is published. It is confirmed it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
10:28 This is documented evidence. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. And the funniest one of all was against what he called alien. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. Are there other religions, I'm curious, David, that you know of in all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea?
11:24 Yeah, I would say there are. You know, Hindus and Buddhists, you know, Tibetans and whatnot, the idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that, I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs, particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition, they have UFOs. UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, the Vatican, too, is that UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years. Mormons, as well, believe in extraterrestrial life. And, I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern-day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets.
12:15 You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God. I think that's what's happening to the human race. For the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the US government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone. Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone, yeah. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found, after interviewing myself and the subjects and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant on who they were, they found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in a public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence?
13:19 Well, I can't get into the specifics because I don't think that would reveal certain US classified operations. I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we would like to say in our language. Why do you say that? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs either in a public setting or even in a private setting?
14:14 And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, I think they are very real, but I think what is your idea of reality? That's the question. You see that the DOD and NASA even, they're all hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue. And that's not where the truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, philosophy, religious studies.
15:13 That's where you're going to find the truth of this. But I don't think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people call angels. I think they're messengers. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. We're now passing the 4 minute 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high-powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And the priest told us... Could I have a little bit more of your time? I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says the grand plan for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil.
16:08 And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grand plan is going to take people, people are going to eat the stuff. Because he says spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies. That are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet. Unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. It was a big thing that was coming up. One of the major deceptions of the last days. Welcome, welcome. This is going to be a good episode. We got three hours tonight until the ball drops in New York. What a weird thing. Watching a ball drop in New York kind of brings in the new year. I always thought that was strange. Well, it can't be any stranger than strange normal. We're going to be watching this tonight. It's going to be fun. And here it is. You can see it right here.
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20:04 Welcome back to Strange Normal. My name is Bradley. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And there is a lot going on. But it's the last thing for 2023. This is crazy. I mean we have hit another year. And we're going to ring in the new year on this program tonight. And we're going to spend some time past midnight and kind of watch what happens as 2024 is going to bring us some even more craziness. Absolutely. But we're going to, before we get too far into it, I'm going to bring in our guests tonight. See if I can hit the right button here. Let me just tell you, wait. Before I bring in my guests tonight, there is so much complexity going on in this program right now. I've got a laptop sitting right here right just off camera.
20:56 You can't see it. I'm going to be using the New York YouTube channel which I can pipe in real fast just as I did in the intro there and show you exactly what's going on. I won't show you because I don't know what is going on here. But it's really strange to watch dancing without any music because I don't know why everybody does the splits at the same time. It's all choreographed. It's just strange. But, you know, I'm going to sit here. I'm going to make sure that we don't miss the ball drop. And so that we can count down. And so that we can count down together. But before we do that, I'm going to introduce our guests and we're going to get into the program. So let's do that. Hello, everybody. How are you? Hello. I'm going to start at my screen is all backwards here. So I'm going to try to see which way I'm going. Wendy down below me. Meredith and Sarah off to my side down here.
21:50 Thank you all for joining me tonight. And Mikey. Mikey. Mikey won't be here. I asked him to come, but he he's not able to come tonight. The Matthew Matthew is going to be here in the last hour and too many names, I guess. I don't know. But how are you guys tonight? Wendy, tell me, how are you doing first? Good. Good. I'm glad to be here, Brad. It's exciting to see the New Year come here on Strange Normal. It's always a fun time. So I'm looking forward to it. Very good. Yeah, it's going to be exciting time. 2024 is right around the bend. Meredith. How about you? How are you? Great. Very blessed to be here and just excited to bring in this new year and see what kind of strangers is going to happen.
22:38 It's going to be a lot. We're ramping it up right now for sure. Absolutely. And Sarah, this is your first time here. I'm so glad you can join us tonight. I hope you do more often, too. How are you? Yeah. Couldn't be better. No place I'd rather be right now. Right on. Right on. And everyone, we're all remote. No one's in the same place. And we all come together through this little app called Discord where we talk about this, everything that's happening throughout the week. And I'm so glad you guys can be a part of the program. So let's get right into it. The first thing I have on the list tonight was actually yesterday, not yesterday, last week's program, which was supposed to air last week. But we had some major technical difficulties and I couldn't get the thing to work for me. So that was the first time we've had technical difficulties that bad in two years.
23:26 So I have saved that and we're going to go ahead and just roll it out for you guys tonight. Everything that was in that program and everything that was the next, we're going to cram it down to about an hour each and hopefully we can get through everything. And then we're going to roll into a third program in the last hour before midnight where we talk about just the amazing testimonies that have come out of the channel. We're going to talk about some big ones. We're going to talk about some video testimonies that I've collected from people physically. And we're going to also go over the plans for the new year, also some pretty cool stuff that we have going on. I'll show you a video. It's kind of a surprise. And if we have time, I'm going to air the 20-minute video that we just produced talking about the top 20 reasons why this whole deception is a demonic deception. It's a big deal.
24:20 And so this was a thing we produced at the end of the year because it was kind of a collection of everything that we've covered. And so it's kind of a good review. If you haven't seen that and if we have time, we'll air that on this channel tonight. If not, you can watch it. It's already uploaded on the channel. But let's get into tonight. Let's look at what's actually happening tonight. Before I do, let me see if I can find my B-roll and see what we are going for here. Everyone's unmuted. I'm just telling myself because I'm also producing. This channel. We have 123 concurrent viewers. Welcome, everyone. We'll look at the chat as we do B-roll, as we roll the videos here in just a second. And I am looking for my B-roll.
25:08 There it is. All right. I just want to say, hey, it's really cool to see Meredith and Sarah here. We're all on the Discord together, but it's unique to talk online and then get to talk about this. And then get to see each other here in person and just kind of hang out. Super cool. Big fans. All right. Here we go. Thank you so much for covering for me while I figured out where my buttons are. Let's play. But I mean, so why hiding it? Do you believe that, though? I mean, I'm sorry. I'm very cynical about the idea that elements of the U.S. Armed Forces have suddenly undergone a religious conversion and decided that they want to be disclosure activists. I can't believe it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't buy it.
25:53 I mean, I think the U.S. Air Force in particular is trying to gag this whole story. Yes. But I mean, you just use the word religious experience. I mean, it's I mean, I hate to say it. It's it's pretty well known that the people within the government who are the most the most anti letting of this information out are religious fundamentalists who believe this is I mean, talk about crazy. They're the ones who think it's the devil. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So they're saying it's demonic. I mean, I've actually had conversations with people in the U.S. Air Force who've told me this is demonic. Ross, you shouldn't be looking at this. This is evil. Right. And so how do you counter that kind of worldview? To me, even if it is demonic, I want to understand what they're doing and what their intent is. Well, that was my next question. Do you think on the evidence it's well-intentioned, whatever it is? I think it's neutral, to be honest. It's ambivalent. It's ambivalent. And, you know, if we kind of get in the way of whatever it is they're doing, you can get hurt.
27:05 Do you think the others, whatever they are, these aliens that you believe are here, do you think they want to be known about? Well, they're obviously not doing much. You know, but I mean, so why the interest in nuclear sites? All right. We're going to roll back to that because I realized I just had me and Wendy on the screen. I hit the button and it skipped to the next one. So I'm going to try to roll it back. But isn't this interesting clip so far? I mean, he's actually saying exactly what we have been saying the whole time. And he's saying, I don't care. I just want to know what it's more about. Let's continue watching the clip and finish the last 60 seconds of it to see exactly what he's going to say next. Whatever it is. Right. I think they're showing. I think it's what they can do. Right. They do show up. They've shown up around the nuclear sites.
27:53 We all know this now. We've seen them over bases in Australia. Right. We've seen them around the USS Nimitz. And it happens multiple times a week. I mean, even today. And I've been speaking to people about that. By definition, that's a threat, isn't it? It doesn't mean they're going to kill us. No. It's by definition a threat. It's they're breaching the security of some of the most sensitive military installations on the planet. Right. And I guess what they're saying is, well, who said this was your space anyway? I mean, it just he's he's almost got it. I mean, but he's so off base at the same time, too. He's he's saying what's blowing my mind, though, is what Gary is saying. Gary Nolan is a is a doctor at a prestigious Ivy League university called Stanford.
28:47 Stanford's Ivy. Right. Stanford. And and he he he he does. So for those that don't know, he does brain analysis. He's he's an expert in brain analysis. He's one Tucker Carlson was talking about when he didn't want to reveal who it was that came to them and said, hey, I have studied over 100. I think I think he said 200 at one time. Over 100 brains of military people that have died due to walking up to these orbs on their on their Navy crafts, on their on their ships. And and wanting to know what's going on and had suffered head injuries. And so he's saying, you know what? I've had experience with this. I want to know what it is. And he says, I don't care if it's demonic or not. I want to know exactly what's going on here. Boy, I can hear some echoes from Eden, can't you? What do you think?
29:37 Well, yeah, I mean, how can you say it's demonic and then not care? That just blows my mind. And the fact that he's all, well, it's neutral, but it's completely benevolent. And people have died and are hurt. What? You're not even clear. None of that makes sense. I don't I don't get it. It's like the Pandora's box. You know, it's like they're afraid they're going to miss out on something if they're not the first one to know or I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me. In my mind, if it's demonic in any form, why would you want to mingle? You know, it's crazy. I don't think they fully understand what since we have so many people, I'm going to go around this way. I don't know. What this way is. I think it's clockwise. I don't know which way it is, but because my screen is backwards, so it's counterclockwise to me.
30:26 But Sarah, what do you think? I think it's interesting that he says, you know, even if it is demonic, he seems all over the place, even if it is demonic. However, the people who think it might be demonic, they're crazy. Like, if you don't know what it is, can't we have the opinion? And without being insane, you know, good point, Meredith. Yeah, I, you know, I don't understand how he can actually see physical people being harmed by this and still be so curious at it. That just shows you how much that Satan can actually deceive people and to wanting to want to know more, wanting to go see more, to see what's going to happen next. What are they going to do? I'm so glad that I see red flags in the chat because. This is red flags all over it, for sure.
31:21 It really is. It really is. And I'm so enthralled with what's going on here. I had to even look at my notes. I should have prefaced what was going on here because this is this is two week old episode. So I haven't even I'm not even sure what's happening next, but I'm going to bring up the discord. So I actually have my show notes here to see what we got. But that was that was an interesting clip because he really proved to me that they don't care. They don't care what's what if it lies to them. I was actually talking in one of the Facebook. Groups just tonight trying to get more information, but from the group members that are just enthralled by this and people are really deceived by it. And I asked him, I said, well, what proof do you have? Where is it? And I'm not being contentious. I'm actually truly coming across as someone that is very curious about this, which I am. But I know the limits and I say, what is it?
32:13 Where are you? Where is your authority? What is the source that says that this is something that you want to play? With that? Is that? How do you know they're not lying to you? And they said, you need you need to do the way we know is by our experiences. Number one, they have this one or two or three people that books that they have written, and they say that it's good because they've told them that it's good. And other people have chimed in into the comments saying, I have the same experience. They've told me the exact same message, and they say that we're trying to protect you. They say that we're we're good, good things. And so I believe them. How do you know? How do you know? How do you know? How do you know? How do you know? How do you know that this thing is not absolutely deceiving? I mean, that's what it comes down to. Where is your authority? But that was, so that was the wrong show. Let me scroll up to the top here.
33:08 Cole Hart and Gary Nolan, people think this is Satan, and he said, and even if it's demonic, he wants to know. He thinks it's nice. It's a threat. And it's a threat, but it's a threat. He thinks it's nice, but it's a threat. And that's the way they're going to push it. Okay. So dangerous. We have two more clips with. Let's do it anyway. Yeah, it just blows my mind. So two more clips with Cole Hart and Gary. This one is going to talk about the ET. The ET is worried about us leaving. Okay. Let's see. Let's see exactly what's happening here. Let's play and see if I can do this correctly now. You know, but, but, but I mean, but so why the interest in nuclear sites? I mean, I said this before that, you know, so humanity, I think, is on the verge of leaving the planet, as we know.
34:05 And I think any intelligence that was be looking at us from the outside, that's been around as long as perhaps they have, knows what the trajectory of humanity might be. And that would be to move out into the solar system. And maybe eventually, even if it takes conventional means, to accomplish it, move out into other stars. So here we are, a planet full of angry monkeys. And we can't even take care of our own planet. And we're threatening to move out into the, you know, nearby, you know, galactic arm. You know, might take us a thousand, ten thousand years to do it. Maybe our neighbors want to know what it is that we're capable of doing. Maybe our neighbors want to know. So in other words, he's, he's, he's surmising that the neighbors are, are the people that are nearby that are very curious about us.
34:56 The ETs that are coming to talk to us. They are telling us that they're concerned that we are not, um, smart enough to go about, uh, space travel yet. And that we, we, uh, could destroy planets. This is the narrative. This is the thing that we're going to run across over and over again. Yeah. Just, just, just watch. If you haven't heard. Yeah. This narrative before, this is, this is the thing. And if it goes beyond that too, because it says not just other planets, but maybe the, they, they, these things they're, they call them entities. We know as demonic, the demonic realm has is pushing this lie where it's coming. And it's saying, uh, you've harmed us in another realm by using your nuclear weapons. I kid you not. That's what they say. And, and, uh, so we are concerned about your nuclear warfare.
35:50 So does it, does it sound like, I mean, just, just that alone tells me that if, if nuclear war starts up again, what's going to happen? Right. Right. I mean, we're going to have, right. That's, that's what it sounds like. And so this whole thing. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. I'll just say it's that programming, like this, like where they tell you what they're going to do, you know, like, so you relate nuclear war to their being here, you know? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so you relate that. And then this is seeding people's minds. I mean, people are watching these podcasts. It doesn't have to be in media anymore. It makes you wonder, was this all orchestrated by the spiritual realm? That's whole, uh, Hey, I'm not going to go to MSM anymore. Mainstream media.
36:39 Now we're going to all these podcasts that are all kind of alternative media that aren't scared of losing their sponsorships and everything. And now people are learning all this stuff and they're reciting it. They're telling it. They're telling their neighbors. And now the, the, all these alternative podcasts are saying, oh, well, you know, the reason why such and such has happened, nuclear war is happening, or, you know, these ETs have appeared is because we're using nuclear weapons. Even though this isn't in the media, where are people getting the information from? And so all this stuff is happening right now. And all this, all these, all this disinformation is being pushed out there from the immediate spiritual realm. That, that's, I mean, that's essentially what it is. And so I, I think, um, we have a lot to, and, and, oh, oh, that's what I wanted to say. 2025. So does that, and this is just me surmising. I don't have, I don't have any proof on this, but I think that we really need to be concerned because, um, if you haven't, if you watch the news lately, we have a whole category on our discord at the very bottom called wars and rumors of wars.
37:46 And, um, all this stuff that's happening right now. I mean, there's just like five things that had it every day. I mean, there's. There's so much happening. I fully expect by 2025 for us to be in a major war, either with Russia, China, which would be devastating or, or Iran, you know, over this whole, I don't know if that's still going on. I haven't looked at the news lately, but so it makes you wonder if it is all this stuff coming together at the same time. I fully think still that's just me. Yeah. I think they're playing it from every angle. No, it's fine. We've got a little lag. I'm just saying they, uh, they're planning from every angle, you know, it's not just one direction. Yeah. I like what Brad said too about, you know, do they even know what they're doing? This news media is it just all spiritually led because I mean, without God, they're just puppets, you know, they're going to do whatever brilliant thing they think they're going to do, but it's definitely orchestrated.
38:49 There's a whole, you know, world out there. They're working together for evil purposes because devil knows his time is short. I mean, what I appreciated from that video is he's not wrong. You know what I mean? Yeah, we are on our way out that the Bible says that the earth moans and groans, you know, as, as time goes on because of the devastation, I think, uh, what people have done to the earth. There's only so long left for this earth to last and people that don't have God even recognize that. So, I mean, I think that kind of. Speaks for itself and, and going to show that, yeah, the devil is going to be working even harder, even faster, trying to roll out his plan. And for sure, yeah, war is definitely a part of it. It's all like, you know, right at the door. I'm just taken away real quickly these days. So, but I want to add, I always have to write things down because I feel like they say so much, but I think he's right.
39:47 You know, we are on our way out. This world's not going to last forever. And God promises to make it new. So, no, he's not wrong. Yeah, he's not wrong in several aspects. Number one, you're right. Christ is coming soon and he's going to cut it short. So we don't know exactly when that's going to happen. But, um, I think I want to add a little legitimacy to what you said. The Isaiah 51, six says, lift up your eyes to the heavens. Look at the earth beneath the heavens will vanish like smoke. We talked about that in the last, the top 20 video and the, uh, the earth will wear out. Like a garment and its inhabitants will die like flies, but my salvation will last forever. My righteousness will never fail. What an amazing promise. That's awesome. Yeah. Yes, it is. The, um, there's something else I was going to say too.
40:38 I don't remember what it was, but what about you two, Sarah and Meredith? I assume that you've completed your thought, Wendy. Um, do you have any, any other things to say? Um, yeah. Well, it's like, again, he's all over the place. Are we stupid monkeys or are we ready for hardcore space travel? And if these things are watching us, couldn't they just watch from afar instead of getting involved? And like, if we get off the planet, just shoot us down instead, they have to be in politics and all this other stuff. It's just odd for sure. Meredith, any thoughts before I continue the next clip? Yeah, I, I just want to quickly add, you know, I agree. Um, you know, Satan. He's working at, at every facet. He's going to use every, anything he possibly can to seed our minds, to make us, um, for primus, basically for what's coming.
41:33 They are planning. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. This next clip, they, they reveal that, um, they, they know, and then we use this on the top 20 video. I thought this was just amazing. If this is the one I'm thinking of, um, again, two weeks ago, I, I created this list, but they reveal that this. This thing, whatever they think it is, we know what it is, but this thing they say it can augment our reality. Watch this. There's a document I wrote about in my book called slide nine and Chris Mellon had accidentally left it on his website and it was discovered by a very clever British researcher who was just going through and checking to see what Chris had on his website. It's a document that was prepared as a briefing document for the undersecretary of defense. By members of the UFO task force, I think Lou Elizondo's team, the key thing about it is that it advises that whatever the phenomenon is, it's capable of manipulating human perception, human consciousness, right?
42:43 It can make us see things that aren't there. Do you think that's possibly what we're seeing in the sky? Yeah. I mean, I think part of what makes it so difficult to reproduce is that different people see different things. I mean, the best example of this that I know is a story that Jacques Vallee brought to me of a family in France driving down the highway. This was like in the last five to 10 years and they had a glass topped car and they look up and they see a UFO, you know, basically paralleling them down the highway. The mother looks around and sees. She sees that no other individuals nearby are freaking out about this thing above them. The children in the back take out their cell phones, take a picture of it. They get home and they look at the pictures on their camera and they don't see an object. They see a little star shaped thing about 30 so feet above it. And I have the picture that doesn't look anything like a drone.
43:43 It's like a, I think it has like seven spokes and a central hole of some sort. So you're, you're left with this. They saw a giant craft, but the picture shows that it was nothing else there. Nobody else could see it. So even if it was an object, it was, that was there. Others weren't capable of seeing it. So it was manipulating vision. So yes, is the short answer. Are you, are there stories you're scared to cover? Because there'll be times. And I guess I have Otto next on whoops. That was fascinating. I think that was interesting. Because what was it up there? What, what, what did we see a star, right? So that, that really blows my mind because we know that the Bible calls the angels, the ones that were around and surrounded God's throne, the fallen angels, I mean, every, every angel, the cherubim and seraphim, these are two different races, types.
44:48 I'm not exactly sure what to call them. Two different types of, of angels. Genre? Genre? Yeah. They're, they're, they're, I don't know, divided into these two categories. And these two different types of angels, a third of them left and went down to earth and because they decided we want to do what we want to do. We don't want to follow God anymore. We don't want to be the ones that, that obey a creator. We think that we can be our own moral authority. I mean, we're good creatures. So why don't we just decide for ourselves? And that's what the whole controversy is spiritually right now. And so these things, and God says, hey, these things are the stars of the heaven. Not literally. I don't really literally think they are the stars of the heaven, but they look like it. And so when we see these things, obviously they, they are like these glowing orbs.
45:42 That's what they always define these things as. When you see these UFOs going around, right, they don't see a cylindrical ship. Usually. That's maybe 5%, 5 to 10% of the time, 90% of the time they see these round glowing balls of light. And so if you see a round glowing ball of light, even if it was in the daytime up there, you would think, oh, it's a, wow, it's a really bright star, stars of the heavens. And so what he sees tells me that this, it confirms to me what we're seeing. We're seeing those spiritual entities. We're seeing angels. And up there. Amazingly, they have this ability to augment our reality, to make us see enormous football sized ships and all this other stuff on the ground. But when you take a picture of it, I don't know if this was allowed or it was an accident.
46:36 These things are infallible. And so if they made a mistake, we know they can make mistakes because they made a big one by becoming the fallen angels and they just decided, well, uh, well, I, I allowed myself to have a Polaroid taken over. He says a cell phone. The story I heard was a Polaroid and this happened a while ago. He said this last happened in the last 10 years. Maybe these are two different stories. Maybe this happened twice. That would be interesting. What do you think? I'm going to go around, um, the other way. What do you think of Meredith? Um, I, I do find it, uh, very typical when people say they say they're going to be seeing, um, actual orbs. And. Yeah. I've actually even seen one. So, um, it is, it's just a ball of light and, uh, they can manifest things for people seeing because I mean, if, if they can manifest ships, they can manifest, um, you seeing dead relatives that have passed away, they're, they're going to, um, trick your mind into seeing things that you're not actually seeing.
47:45 And that's why I really have to know the word of God so that you are not deceived. By these things. And so that you can, um, say, Hey, wait a minute, this ain't right and, and call out to God. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sarah, what do you think? Um, it made me think of something similar, um, but also I don't remember the name of the guy, but he had people, um, that would clear their mind and, you know, just call to anything that would answer. Um, it just reminds me of, um, you know, the importance. Um, to meditate on God's word, um, not like the, or the world meditates now where they clear their mind and whatever wants to influence them or, you know, present to them. Um, it's, they have to meditate on an actual word of God.
48:38 And I think that most people nowadays want, they think that clearing your mind is how they get an altered state, you know, but just such danger in that. Yeah. It's so dangerous because, um, the Bible says, actually there is a, a order of operations. I got to find it. It's in the Bible, but it says, you know what, if you want to get rid of sin out of you, you put more Christ into you. You don't take it out first. You don't clear yourself out and then put Christ in. You put Christ in and he pushes it out. And so it's the exact opposite in, in the new age movement where you clear your mind to allow something in. You quiet that still small voice. That's right. And that's the dangerous part. Yeah. What do you think Wendy? So true. Um, I was just thinking about, I mean, from a Christian perspective, when he talks about, yeah, it can manifest and, you know, appear as certain things that aren't necessarily there.
49:36 It's like, so I don't know, from a Christian perspective, it's like, yeah, demons are powerful. So it seems obviously another link to why we consider them demonic. Um, I'm just looking at second question. Okay. So it says in 1 Corinthians 4, 18, and it says, so we fix our eyes, not on what is seen, but what is unseen since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. So we know from the Bible that angels, um, you know, God's angels or fallen angels, they have these powers. They can be unseen, but clearly they can also be seen. So they have a lot of powers. They have a lot of capabilities, um, that we don't fully understand that we're not fully capable of, you know, grasping, I guess, the side of heaven. And so, yeah, when these things happen, when they say something's gonna, uh, manifest themselves, you know, as a whole to our world someday, I think, well, yeah, it's good to know ahead of time, but seems like the obvious next move for demonic forces, you know, they're trying to plant that seed and get out there more and more without causing, you know, mass pandemonium.
50:46 So little by little, I think it makes sense for them to manifest themselves. Yeah. And then to get those individual testimonies, all these people saying, yeah, I saw it too. You know, open people's minds to the possibility of this happening, opening those demonic doors. And then the more this happens, the easier it becomes. Um, I'm just thinking back again to the, the book that I read with secret machines, uh, Peter Lavenda talked about how, uh, one of the first major UFO sightings happened after it was like thousands of people practice this yoga together. Yeah. for the first time and so they were opening this huge doorway and then it was like boom all this you know experience with spirituality so yeah i think manifesting itself is just a telltale sign of who this really is that we're dealing with yeah and can you imagine if this when this gets out in the open because it will uh we have all those people doing this same thing trying to get a hold of these things because of terrible things that are happening on earth it's going to open a lot of doors i mean they say that in ufology where you're opening a portal i don't i don't think it's actually physically doing that i think what what's actually going on here and there's there's talks about this in the one project which is a demonic translated thing where they they have um this earth they have decided that this is their home base spiritually and so they being uh trying to protect this place apparently from the rest of the righteous universe uh have have bordered this place god is more more powerful but he's also a gentleman and so if people on earth are not requesting his assistance he's not going to step in and so if we aren't praying that's why we need to pray because all the can you imagine i'm not i'm not saying this is exactly how it works but can you imagine if there's angels just lining the the heavens right now and preventing god from coming in here bringing angels from coming in here because angels are although more powerful than them they're going to sit there and they're going to wait and they're going to say there are people there that need my help but they don't they aren't asking for it and so all of a sudden when a congregation prays for the same thing we have enough prayers let's go down there uh you have to let us in our people are calling and so i i think it's it's the same way for these entities too god says you know what if you're not asking for me if you want your other husbandmen if i guess if that's what you want to call it to come down and be with you then um we'll give it to you but that's what you have to call for it's really spooky and i want to pull off of what meredith said just a minute ago because i think this it was a very valid point these augmented reality is um is absolutely more than just ships it's more than just seeing things in the sky it's dead relatives it's dead people and if you don't believe in et you will absolutely see something else that will tell you what you want to hear especially if it's an emotional tie to somebody and so we got to be very careful with that and very important any other any other comments before we move on to the next all right let's move on let's see what we got here we have uh tucker carlson and he's this is the first time we see him i have several clips of him and he's going to be talking about his belief in this thing and it's very very eye-opening this is the intro to it watch this are you are there stories you're scared to cover because there will be times and i know you are hit with a torrent of information on a daily basis way more than i am and i mean you have contacts all around the world that are you know there's probably someone on the space station right now texting you um with information about something and so are there things that you're
54:44 scared to cover you're sitting there saying wow this is like soul crushing like to the point where it really scares you in your soul yes the ufo story and you know the more you dig into that and talk to people with no with actual knowledge of it again that's another story where there are some you know fanciful ideas floating around that are just you know there's no evidence that they're true but if you talk to people who you know have actual knowledge of it that they gathered themselves there are parts of that story that i do not understand at all that are really really really dark it's so dark that i you know haven't told my wife about it but i'm not going to tell my wife about it i mean i i haven't verified any of this but this is not just stuff that i read on the internet i know you all are very very grounded in that story so i think i know you know what i'm talking about yeah but there's some stuff there that's just like man i i'm not even sure what that means there's a spiritual component there that i don't fully understand um so yes that story bothers me and i think last thing i'll say that one of the reasons that we've had all these disclosures and all these what 10 whistleblowers at this point and it hasn't really become front page is part of you know parts of the government don't want you to know about it but part of it is the public can't deal with it it's too far out the implications are too um profound and so and i understand that because i've heard things i'm just like oh man i i don't even really want to know that honestly deeply disturbing stuff you know forget like saucers and technology it's deeply deeply disturbing stuff that i haven't even told natalie i agree with you it's so disturbing i can't even tell my kids my kids ask me different stories about it and i won't say it because it's so dark it's so dark i totally agree miles is watching okay miles if you're watching the show daddy's not going to tell you about that part of the ufo stuff and what's going on with the government can i say one thing i'm they've known clearly i mean this is i think established and i feel comfortable saying this as fact the u.s government i mean these are real whatever they are they're not human and the government has done that for a long time possibly going back to the 1930s at least and of course there's tons of evidence in the written record physical record in paintings um and in the and in literature that people have been seeing and interacting with these things for a long time so we know that but the justification one often hears is well the government in the government various presidents who have been read in not all have been um haven't wanted to disclose this because it would scare people and i've always thought that's that's bull you know you're hiding a crime which they are by the way in my opinion um but i do think there's a sense in which that's not totally crazy like there is some stuff if it's true and i'm kind of thinking it may be true that's so radical that um yeah well as we both said we you know don't want to tell the people we love most about it because like why would you you know disturb someone like that so i kind of get that i hate to admit it i'm not i'm not arguing for hiding things i believe in the truth and i believe in disclosure but i understand the impulse like holy smokes this is heavy you know right and the government's involvement in it makes it even heavier because then you realize the complicity exactly yeah okay so we're talking about the same thing i couldn't tell okay yeah excuse me should i go no no no no we this is what we used to talk about in commercial breaks all the time this is the kind of stuff but anyway so at the time i never would have believed any of that but now i'm like yeah okay yeah yeah uh well i i'd be remiss if i didn't get you out of here on this tucker which is you've covered politics a long time tucker you made some very interesting posit right there uh that's oh my goodness there's so much to go off of there and i just looked at the time we got five minutes until the next show i don't think we're going to be able to make it wait i should have cut this down a little bit but this is really good interesting stuff because tucker uh let me recap what he just said here he said that some things tucker's scared of in this thing he says i don't i don't want to report on this i don't think that i even have told my kids my wife about this stuff and so did uh the whatever his name is the redacted guy uh he he says that tucker isn't going to report on this i don't know but he says james says it's phoenix not the white man it's the red person i've had to explain why everybody's afraid of phoenix what he said for the last seven years here's the problem with phoenix is it doesn't get you to be afraid of phoenix right some people are afraid of phoenix it just gives you the feeling you're like okay now you're going to get this stuff out the door to the cops and that's not in the story because phoenix isn't going to be about phoenix but it's going to be about phoenix and it's going to be a book i just don't have any time to talk about phoenix just like phoenix is about phoenix it's not about phoenix it's the last movie phoenix is just too heavy what in the world is he talking about and the reason why i added this clip is because every time he talks on a podcast after this every clip i have after this is referencing this one clip where he says there's stuff that i know that i'm not going to tell you and because and everyone's like blah why you know why would you do that that doesn't make any sense why don't
59:32 you tell us i don't i don't get it you know something we don't you're you're part of the you're part of the the cover-up aren't you tucker and so they just go off on him not really go off on him but it's it's fascinating to see exactly what's happening here because uh he he says this is weird and we know why it's weird i i can surmise what he's talking about and i think i i know enough of the lore to know exactly what he's he's he's gonna say but i don't even know if i know everything so i think what's what do you guys think i mean everything that we know about the demonic realm about the lore about what's happening here uh i'm wondering if i should even open this up this isn't this isn't really i try to keep everything focused down to not the theory but what is the fact what does the bible say what is what is what is going on here so maybe i'm just gonna do that i'm gonna let that go i know everyone wants to talk about it i'm gonna let that go for a second and uh and let's and if you want to say something about it say something in the next clip because we do need to get rolling keep that mind write it down if you need to but let's go on to the next tim cast clip and um and see what he says about this and then we'll we'll talk about that okay here we go tucker you made some very interesting comments recently that has been going viral all over social media when you're specifically talking about um ufos and you're specifically talking about something that is hard to kind of get to the bottom of because it's it's kind of really understand here i was wondering what's your kind of take on all of this because i i see this as a spiritual war do you see this as a spiritual war what are your kind of core belief systems when it comes to addressing the larger evils of the system well i you know as i so often do i spoke incompletely i didn't fully explain myself um in the clip that you're referring to which like eight people have sent me in outrage that i basically said there are things that i know that i won't say which of course is not exactly right i don't know i mean i can't prove it and i really do try to like say things that i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know things that i really believe are true and are provably so um and so that's kind of my hesitance if i had facts i would i would say them it's my personal belief based on a fair amount of evidence that they're not aliens they've always been here um and i and i do think it's spiritual that's that's my view so and and again it's not provable but based on uh on the evidence i think i'm with you well the military has been working in this realm for a very long time they have been also trying to to weaponize it there's a lot of people who have been working in this realm for a very long time there's also a lot of crazy experiments that they did with dmt hooking people up essentially to dmt ivs having people go off into the spiritual realm so they're they're they're if you're if you're not paying attention you don't understand that there's a larger kind of energetic uh frequency and battle happening but can i say one thing if the u.s government has in fact had contact direct contact with these beings whatever they are i've already told you what i think they are and has entered into some sort of agreement with them which is which is the claim of of informed people um i would say whether they're right or wrong i can't say conclusively yeah but if that is true i mean it's a very very very heavy thing yeah a lot of people say for dimensional beings right i want to ask are angels and demons or how would you describe these these beings you know i these are again i'm getting into the realm of conjecture so i just want to say that flat out entity but one thing i know for a dead certain fact having seen it is that um there is good and evil we're being acted upon at all times and i think every person can feel that in himself i mean there are a lot of people in the room who are more evil and destructive than you actually are you are subject to forces from outside yourself that is absolutely true now we can argue about what they are but every person in the room if he's reflective will tell you yes i know what you're talking about and so there are forces that are not human that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind that we cannot see and that when you think about it sort of make you think we live in an ant farm and so there are forces that are not human that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind yeah all right so let's pause it right there everyone hold your breath i'm gonna say if you like this this is interesting to you hit that like button hit that bell icon hit that subscribe button because this is what we do every week you guys are going to want to see more and more of this so uh this is this is the stuff we go over on the discord so if you want to be a part of that go to patreon.com strange normal become a patreon member join us all of us on here are part of that and we all look at this we all have probably seen this clip and we uh we uh we're we're digging deep into this tonight what do you guys think about that now keep in mind he didn't actually say that he thinks they're demonic or they're nice
1:04:19 but i think he inferred a lot there a lot more than he does in his normal program and so um i'm gonna go to you wendy first what do you think we'll we'll circle around man i think that was kind of mind-blowing to hear him say that because he's always had such a kind of a back you know back real view of it he doesn't just come out and say his own personal like he was saying i'm not going to say it unless i know for a fact but now he's kind of being questioned and they're asking him why did you make that comment you know without knowing and he's like okay okay okay so he's kind of cornered a bit but i'm glad that he's finally letting it out um i remember you showing the clip can't tell you when but where he was speaking about hey i decided to open my bible wait a minute so you've been considering yourself a christian this whole time but you're just now opening the bible i mean take that for what you will but i'm glad that he's at least opening the bible and you know he has this platform and if you are seeking out truth god's going to give it to you if you have a pure heart you're going to find the knowledge and the truth of god and so he's reading the bible and suddenly he's having all these personal convictions that are weighing what he's saying and how he feels about the whole you know nhi subject so i mean i think it's kind of wonderful that he's showing up on these shows and acknowledging i mean what you've been saying all along here on strange normal and um yeah some of the comments of the people around him kind of threw me off the guy that uh had the epstein shirt on i'm pretty sure isn't that the atheist i think so yeah so it's weird because where was it no that was the law that was a long-haired guy wasn't it wasn't it did he say he's an anarchist i'm gonna i'm gonna okay yeah yeah you're right the anarchist that's right i was like an atheist i'm like wait he's talking about a spiritual battle but you're right the anarchist so it doesn't believe in government but whoops wrong button keep going welcome to new york for a second okay go go for it so i don't know i i'm just saying that seeing him speak about this from a better religious perspective yeah it's thrilling to me you know i like seeing people with a big platform sticking up for their convictions so and i think that's a breath of fresh air yeah yeah what about you sarah what do you think uh hopefully i can articulate where my my mind's all over the place with this um basically when you peer into darkness it it's it's scary and so if he knows all these dark stories um of course he's going to be terrified and i just hope that he takes some time to look at the light and to study more about god because i mean don't get me wrong i would be terrified if i saw an angel or anything appearing in front of me but i know who i serve i know who actually is in control and that really would give him a lot of peace you know i just oh and also uh like people are so um concerned about the government being in cahoots with these things but if we um actually take a look at it which i know you guys um talked about it a bit but entertainment's been in cahoots with them for a long long time and they actually have a lot more influence than government as far as how people think um and so that's just what i was thinking 100 yeah i don't know why people don't talk about that you think we talk about your government being involved with this now in the uh the the hollywood scene has been talking to these things especially writers and we have proof of that uh for a long time 100 meredith what do you think well you know you think about it um he seems like in every place he's he's i think he might have had an experience himself i mean you think about it he's just got in more and more talking about um every uh uh how these things have come about people have been telling him more and more things he even said on there i wrote down he's seen it seen what i mean if you go back on the clip i don't know if that's what he was talking about but over just slipped out but he's he's talking literally like he's he's experienced something that it's pushed him to want to read the bible
1:09:01 to want to um you know find out more about you know what these really are because he he really i think he might have no he kind of knows what what's really going on between all everything that he's he's gotten from um people he's interviewed to research he's done on his own to probably possibly an experience and so that's what's thrown him maybe to reading the bible which i i agree with wendy i think it's amazing that he's at least opening that up and and i pray that you know god will continue to open up his mind and let him know the truth behind this yeah 100 yeah i'm i'm with you guys i think this is an interesting thing that that tucker's gotten gotten deep into and in breaking points he goes in further on this topic and he tries to to figure out exactly what's what's going on here he says if if if i had verifiable facts i would put them on air watch this i know you're on a tight schedule my last question here is we have shared uh we have shared passion for ufo transparency and you made a comment um very recently which has gotten a lot of attention in the ufo world they've learned things that have made you afraid and i've seen uh there's been a lot of i think right-minded skepticism not even just from uh not even just from people who are more establishment minded others who are like well if the government is quote-unquote acknowledging ufos and that's how i know that it's not real so you seem to be a believer you've spoken with dave grush i've met him as well he seems like a very uh he at least at the very least i don't think he's lying to me whenever i've spoken to him so what gives you assurance that what you're hearing what you have uh what you've come to believe is not a government psyop so to speak um well everything's government psyop including ufos but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that there aren't ufos um and i think i know the comment you're referring to is on clayton morris is an old friend of mine called clayton morris's podcast a great guy really interested in this topic and and i said that there are things that i don't want to talk about and i as usual didn't fully explain myself if i had you know verifiable facts about this phenomenon i would immediately put them on the air because i'm committed to that completely because my whole life is about that so um i should have said more clearly i i can't be certain this is just what i believe based on you know talking to an awful lot of people about this some of whom i trust a lot some of whom i trust sort of i mean you're trying to piece it together from lots of different places but um no they're they're this these are my views okay they can't be proven but they're i think they're informed views um the the phenomenon is real it's been recorded for thousands of years we know that um there's something buzzing around us in the skies but also uh under the oceans we now know and probably underground as well um so it's real uh the government's lied about it a million different ways probably for a million different reasons for at least 80 years that's also confirmed they're lying about it now who knows what their motives are and they're also trying to keep a lot of the stuff from being disclosed that's true yes so to those people it's like it's a psyop well yeah i know for a dead certain fact and it's provable that say mitch mcconnell and speaker johnson and people who should a couple committee chairman who should all know better are trying to prevent the uap disclosure act of 2023 from taking effect in a meaningful way so they are trying to hide it still that's a fact my own view is that these are not aliens um there's no evidence that they've come from somewhere else we would probably know we've got a lot of a lot of technology that's watching what comes in and out of the atmosphere and there's no evidence of that i think we're ever um i don't they're not i don't this is my view again it can't be proven but i'm just telling you after a lot of conversations um i think it's likely that the u.s government has had contact with these uh direct contact and you know over a period of years i find that really disturbing um because i you know and and a bunch of other things that i that are highly distressing that i can't prove and so i'm not gonna throw them out there but i can i'll tell you this i've talked to a lot of people about this not because i've never interested in ufos until like five years ago and i was like wait this is real what is this why aren't we talking about this i'm just like coming at it from a totally idiotic i don't know anything curious position which is my normal posture on everything and so i've talked to a lot of people and my view is that there you know this is my opinion that there are things about this that are really disturbing and while i hate any kind of government secrecy and if i could prove any of this i would say it immediately consequences be i do sort of understand why they don't want to let this stuff out it's not about oh we've got fragments of one of these crafts at a lockheed you know facility in california and we have biologics
1:13:48 from the you know everyone knows that that's likely true well it's certainly true that they have the you know pieces of this stuff but i think it's likely that it's it's it's darker than that and that the u.s government is i said the u.s government people in the u.s government not the u.s government but you know there are part it's a vast it's the largest human industry parts of it you know have knowledge that is very very disturbing and um i personally think strongly think um that there's a spiritual component to this that i don't understand and will not pretend to understand um but i think it's very clear that there's a spiritual component to this that's one of the reasons the vatican and again i'm not catholic but has been involved in this for over 100 years has an observatory etc etc i mean it's it's it's pretty obvious that these are not i think that was a psyop because i think the truth is a little bit wilder and has deeper implications just than than that giving us even more to think about tucker i want to thank you for your time really appreciate it i encourage everybody to go and sign up for your subscription program okay we'll pause it right there just for a second i i uh let me re recap what he just said because he said a lot and i think he's referring to um what he thinks it is here so i think this kind of tells us a little bit more about what the lore is that is being pushed on the people uh tucker on character holmes says hey do you know something i just read on tv that i hold so deeply then why don't you read it to me what do you say okay and that there is this myth in early diabetics that we might actually haveacja the sniper legendary um dr tidings that he's mentioned that wasn't with him in old don't really what they had to do with his behavior That propaganda, fascinating. But so I think he's alluding to what he thinks it is because he's been given a piece of unverifiable lore and I'm going to reveal that tonight.
1:15:49 I just thought about it as I was going that way that this, according to the lore, unverifiable. Again, you can't really verify this stuff, but I thought it's important for everyone to know at least what he knows and what he thinks about this whole thing. And I'm not pushing this stuff out there just to push out theory because we don't believe this stuff on this channel. I don't believe this stuff. I believe that this is the deception that's coming not from humanity, but from the spiritual realm. So what has been said? Okay, so long time ago, and you can look this up, it was said that President Carter, was a deeply religious man who had also witnessed a UFO with six other people. Everyone thought that he would be the one to finally release all this stuff.
1:16:43 And he, eventually the CIA had told him exactly what was happening. It is said that after Kennedy, this whole thing, the president became a temporary employee type. That's how they referenced him. So they didn't tell him everything. I don't know how true that is, but it said the CIA had the talk with him. And afterward, it was reported that he sunk his head down in his hands and that he began to sob deeply, but was visibly disturbed for some weeks afterwards. So what did they tell him? So what did they tell him? This is what they say. This is the story. In one paragraph, he was told that the major religions, including Christianity, were programs created by extraterrestrials to prevent us from destroying ourselves while they ran experiments.
1:17:33 Now, think about experiments as in cattle mutilations, okay? Or abductions, or these things that all the backwoods people have come out and said, I had someone abduct me and they put something in me, all right? I'm not saying everyone, let me preface that with, maybe you're listening to this and you're not a backwoods person and you have had something like that happen to you. I'm not downplaying that. I think that's very interesting, but I'm just saying that there is, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the whole joke, right? And people have seen stuff, legitimately had experiences, and it's very scary. They can instill fear in you without even ever being scary, but it was scary. So, at this moment, Carter, it became clear to Carter that such an information could cause tremendous economic and social upheaval, and that he was very concerned about this for weeks.
1:18:32 And so, that is the lore that I'm sure Tucker knows about, and I'm sure that a lot of people are going to, I'm sure this is going to come out someday. And they're going to say, yeah, you know, we've created the religions to keep everyone in check while we, because we created you on earth, that was transcribed from one of them. We've created you on earth, and we have been testing you to make sure that your DNA, if it's our DNA, and that's a big deal because now we know that we can, we can do this science on earth here. We're a giant experiment. That's what this whole thing comes down to. That's a load of hogwash, right? That's a bunch of baloney, but that's the deeply unverifiable disturbing stuff that I think Tucker is referring to. What do you think about this whole concept, Wendy?
1:19:26 Let's go to Wendy first. It's just mind boggling, mind boggling. Again, like the first thing I think of watching Tucker, in these conversations, is all he's doing is like drawing curiosity. There's something so horrible, I can't even tell you. You know, it's like, don't you want to know? I feel like most people are like, yeah, wait, what is it? What's so bad that the human race can't handle? It's just like this, you know, drawing people in further into something that they should be steering away from. It blows my mind that it works, but it does. It's like we're little children just wanting to know things still. But I was also thinking about, again, back to Peter Levenda, one of the things that, from the beginning of watching this whole UFO, UAP thing unravel, it's like, how can people go through these horrible experiences and again think that there's any good that can come out of it?
1:20:24 Blows my mind. One of the things that Peter Levenda said that is an interesting explanation if you don't have God. One of the things that Peter Levenda said that is an interesting explanation if you don't have God. One of the things that Peter Levenda said that is an interesting explanation if you don't have God. You know, if you're refusing to believe in God and the spiritual aspect of things, his point of view is that if you take a look at initiations like with, yeah, I mean, like sororities, any initiation, but especially the old ritualistic ones, like the Freemasons, they have like a huge, horrible initiation system that you have to go through before you're accepted into the club. And so Peter Levenda says, it's the same thing these alien races or you know whatever he wants to call them they are performing these things on people doing these horrible acts and the whole point is to like separate you from your consciousness separate you from the idea that you have control over what's going on so that you just fully trust the experience and consciously let go of like blocking them from I believe you know feeding you the delusion but it's mind-boggling mind-boggling that they can say there are these horrible things going on yeah let's track it down let's find out what's going on let's talk about it all the time let's you know draw it closer to us that's a really interesting point oh sorry go ahead I don't want to walk in so before I go to you Sarah I think what you said is key here because I didn't put those that together what what that also does it not only separates you from your consciousness but it also separates you from your understanding of things but it also separates you from your family because you say I had this experience and people are like okay I mean hopefully your family loves you well enough that it doesn't separate you completely but think about what happened to the Bledsoes and their church family it completely separated them if you don't have a loving congregation that it's gonna say okay we need to work on these guys closer and not you know just pound them with the Bible pound them with the Bible and then you're going to have to work on these guys closer and not you know just pound them with the Bible pound them with the Bible pound them with the Bible and then you're going to have to what's right we need to we need to be closer friends with them spend more time with them they're gonna separate so fast they're gonna be like I believe this thing I had a better experience this thing than I had with you I mean something's big is happening here you guys haven't seen it and you guys think I'm crazy get away from me I'm not gonna ever go back to that church that's the danger you're this whole thing separates you and it prepares you to be something that it can use so I think that's that's really really interesting very good Wendy what do you think sir again quite a few things first I love his laugh it just always brings a smile on my face but I thought it was interesting also I feel like he has many many stories similar to what you outlined about Carter did you say was it Carter um but I think that he's heard some gory stories you know and we know so many of like people being turned inside out stuff like that but um I think there's a lot of things that he's heard and I think there's a lot more to it you know like he said people that I trust and some I don't so much but I'm sure he's heard some awful like really creepy things and you know when you can kind of feel just how you know it affected them and we're empathetic in some ways where we like when somebody's crying they we start crying when someone says this terrified me and then you kind of go through it with them and so you kind of feel it too but I thought it was interesting that he when he said the Vatican has been involved he made a point to say and I'm not Catholic like uh like that was a question so I kind of wonder if that has something to do with uh some of the stories that he uh might have been told and also last bit um something I heard can't tell you who it was or where but this whole thing um some I think it might have been a Pope of some kind said uh sorry sorry I'm not very specific but that it would this whole UFO thing would make us rethink the inter our interpretation of the Bible and so I wonder if that kind of is what he's kind of going for hope that made sense yeah no that did it made me think really really deep because I know that even even Tucker has said at the very end when he was on that Tim cast which was the previous one Tim Tim cast test what is it his podcast called Tim cast IRL IRL yeah yeah Tim he said uh to the Catholic guy I mean watch the whole thing he said to the Catholic guy wow I really like what you had to say it's
1:25:05 really making me me reconsider Catholicism and I was just shocked by that but I didn't include that because I was we were on something else this is a whole different topic but I was just like no no can reconsider Catholicism if you're getting back into the Bible stay in the Bible don't go to the Catechism yeah I need to take five I'm sorry yeah yeah peace uh Meredith what do you think I agree I think you know there's he cracks me up you know this these aren't men on Mars okay um but uh he he knows it's a spiritual component that's that's going on and I think by the Vatican having such draw into it for so many years I mean wouldn't that make anybody think there's a spiritual component to that why would the Vatican have anything to do with that what's the whole purpose there why do they have a telescope of Texas you know in Arizona I mean I I mean these are just interesting facts that we we need to understand why are they it's definitely a spiritual component and I think they're leading on more than they're saying because there's a lot more to it and I think they know more I even Tucker I know he says I'm not gonna you know if I had facts I'd tell you but I think he has a few facts that he probably knows and he just doesn't want to say at this moment until more things happen but yeah that's my opinion a few reliable resources I think I think it's interesting we're gonna see a lot more come out so you're gonna want to hit that subscribe button hit that little Bell icon because you don't know what what else is happening make sure you uh you hit that Bell icon because it notifies you when we go live and that's when you can stay the most up to date with this stuff and you can be one of the 190 subscribers right now we hit a new record we've been at 180 186 before 190 welcome to the new club hopefully we can get better tonight that'd be cool and um let's let's continue on to see what is next I'm gonna pull up my my scripts here uh we have uh let me go down to the uh show outline okay so Tucker Carlson we just went to and and we looked at the oh man we got such an amazing show I'm not sure if we can pack it in it might have to be next week for the next one uh Tucker Carlson breaking points Tucker Carlson okay now he's going to interview Grush Grush I never know how to say his name Tucker with David Grush and Tucker asked David about the spiritual battle this was fascinating because I don't think tuck that now Tucker's interested and now he's going to refer to it to David and David's going to have some interesting answers so watch this do you think and I I've read a couple uh not just in this country but others a former government official saying they believe there's there's some spiritual connection to these things well I think you know if you were to back out to the hundred thousand foot level there certainly is a phenomenon and how do we quantify that you know theologically we can quantify that as you know Angels demons that kind of thing um you know many people with religious belief systems expels faith in that regard and they believe that a phenomenon exists there with the UFO UAP subject is probably just another facet of that same phenomenon but the conventional explanation for the U.S government among those who believed it was hiding these facts that can explanation for why was the government doesn't want to show panic doesn't want to admit weakness in the face of its adversaries Etc Etc those explanations do not account for the behavior you're describing yeah they're hiding something real that implicates them and if they're talking to these entities whatever they are and I I believe in the basis of evidence that the U.S government has made contact and has had continuous or at least sporadic but over a period of years contact um you don't need to nod or shake your head but that is my belief based on talking to people okay so notice just from an editing standpoint they did not show him they did not show grudge during that clip I'm gonna go back and and I thought that was fascinating because he's probably nodding his head and Tucker's like don't nod your head or Etc those explanations do not account for the behavior you're describing yeah they're hiding something real that implicates them and if they're talking to these entities whatever they are and I I believe in the basis of evidence that the U.S government has made contact and has had continuous or at least sporadic
1:29:47 but over a period of years contact um you don't need to nod or shake your head but that is my belief based on talking to people like what is that yeah if there's certainly you know a relationship that was cultivated with non-human intelligences hypothetically I guess you know to play off of what you just said good or bad it's almost like we were afraid after 9 11. dirty bombs terrorists okay well that's nature that's life you didn't Yang in the universe if there is malevolent non-human intelligences okay well that's a fact of life don't hide it because what if the U.S populace one needs to be prepared for something something hypothetically and it's also not their right to hide it because they don't own the government the public does actually exactly and it's just I understand the reasons at first but like you said I think it's just the moral decay and the decay in leadership and once again well we don't want to admit we did all this stuff years but also if the U.S government has had contact with these entities and again it is my informed belief that the U.S government has had contact what are they talking about what is that hey I would like to know too I mean I grew up watching Star Trek so yeah whimsically but like well great I mean of my generation under 40 that's like we're not shocked that's cool like a Gen Zer who's 18 would want to study physics if they found out this stuff was real yes like this is how you boost stem in this country for goodness sakes I mean this is like the most exciting yes a little scary but overall it's exciting I mean nothing's happened you know we're still living I'm able to talk about this and nothing's happening you know to the you know the world so it's I think it's exciting for for young people and I think it's the right time to do this um going back in history I mean they're you know there are all sorts of mysteries about history that we you know just can't explain even now um but is it it sounds like it would not be surprising to learn that people 3 000 years ago had contact with these yeah I mean you look at the works of Jacques valet I'm a famous um researcher his character was portrayed as the French character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind by Steven Spielberg that guy exists his name is Jacques valet and he has a PhD and he's a smart scientist but looked at this and uh there's a couple books like passport to Mongolia and some other stuff I'm probably butchering the name where he looked into antiquity this phenomenon so when people say oh it's probably adversarial technology Etc we've been seeing the same stuff since antiquity and this should also potentially enforce stories in the biblical texts say the Bible or whatever that people actually saw Ezekiel Ezekiel's wheels as Tim Burchette has espoused publicly maybe that actually happened now unfortunately you're you're bursting maybe a world view or a bubble for some people but it actually ultimately enforce it might enforce people's belief systems because stories in the religious text weren't fable allegory or whatever they happened I'm not saying all of them did but there might be evidence if we were openly and honestly studying the subject in more detail hmm this is really interesting because see all these people start to talk spiritually about something because I haven't seen any of these people actually reach into the Bible or actually think about the Bible or think about spiritual spirituality until this topic comes up and that's what's so fascinating about this topic because it becomes a catalyst for introducing the idea that there is a God into normal life and I've had so many uh my own experiences just telling people hey you know this is a podcast that I do and people are like tell me how that relates to the Bible that's fascinating um what what I let me recap what he just said here he said um Tucker said Tucker asked grudge if it's spiritual what kind of contact had the government had with these spirits nothing is he says nothing is going to happen we're still here nothing's going to happen I don't worry about it we don't even worry about these things uh we've been seeing these things since antiquity some one of the things that I'm going to bring out in the next episode about um Orion uh Bledsoe is he doesn't believe that it's a big deal either it's not a big deal don't worry about it these things are they're they're they're not I mean if you this is one thing he says and it's kind of relating what what they're saying here if you put off Good Energy then Good Energy is going to come back I don't know you know it's going to come
1:34:34 back it's just not going to match it however it absolutely doesn't matter nobody has a reason to be better than you on the tablets I mean there are a couple of things f angelos and they're gonna see if there are actually to you and good spirits are going to come back to you. If you put off bad energy, then you have bad spirits. Do you think these things have a mind of their own? They do! They're deceptive! And they're, in the next sentence he's like, well, you know, they have been deceptive and they have done some strange things. They do have a mind of their own. Which is it? Which is it? So, and I find it also fascinating, I see Tucker, he's listening to YouTube because I don't know if he's heard the spiritual ideas of this stuff, maybe from this podcast, but there's another podcast called and I'm not going to say the name of it because I don't want to give too much away, but it's the phrase he used in this. It was, I won't give the name of the woman that runs it, but it's a mystery is with the history. And so, I see that he's really diving deep. He's trying to figure out exactly what's going on because mainstream meaning is not giving it up and so he's going through his sources and going to other other uh plays on the internet probably to find it and so that was seen by some of his verbiage what do you guys think about this we're gonna go into a joe jordan clip after this but um let's go with uh meredith first we're gonna go the opposite way this time uh it's mind-boggling like wendy said like i mean just just to see um them relating things back and forth with each other and like you said pulling out the bible in and all the aspects of the spirituality of what's going on and and they're they're really searching they are they're they're trying to find what's going on um with all of this that's happening but um what's what's sad is is they they're searching all the wrong places yeah you know if they would search the bible um and i think you know i think maybe tucker is to a point but he's still reaching out to the world a little more but then i pray that he does reach into the bible even more and so that god shows him but reaching in the bible you will definitely find out exactly what's going on and exactly who these entities are which which we know as you know fallen angels demons so 100 sarah um i noticed that in every interview or every video you've shown so far uh tucker brings up the word spiritual and it's spiritual i'm just certain of it um and i i agree with meredith that you know he really should then take it to the author of all this spiritual stuff but um it feels like they're it's like they're teasing and dropping a lot of hints like similar to earlier oh there's something big something big it's almost like they're and not that this is the bad thing it could be good or bad for good or bad reasons but it's like they want to get more people interested in seeking this out whatever it is you know they just uh whether it be the spiritual aspect or the alien aspect they want more people to be interested in this so it could be to sell books or it could be for people's benefit i don't know it's crazy yeah no i i think it's very fascinating because he along those same lines he didn't actually ever say he thought it was demons he didn't actually ever say that it was bad he inferred it and i truly do believe he thinks that because of the way he thinks that because of the way that the verb is but um this is what he says uh that he used and uh people try to pull it out of him but he's very careful and saying yeah it's definitely spiritual i don't know we'll see wendy what do you think uh i think similar to sarah here i was thinking uh i wrote down the word spiritual it's like spiritual is the safe word that's not going to get them in trouble because i'm sure tucker still wants to have audiences with people that disagree with him yeah uh grush i know you'd had on here before a clip where grush was talking about the phenomenon and then he's saying well yeah definitely is going to rewrite everyone's prior beliefs from you know the bible and all this but then you have tucker saying oh yeah it's spiritual and and uh i know there's a lot of components here that are you know spiritual in nature and then grush is like oh yeah yeah many people refer to it as angels and demons and like it's just weird it's weird how they they're talking about god and the demons but they don't want to you know it's just let it out just say come on we're all waiting it's a little painful um but i don't know i i appreciate that grush is willing to talk with tucker about these things and you know he's not bashing him for having a different view which is nice i think grush has made it pretty obvious that he's more intellectual and not willing to you know cross the gap and say yeah okay god's involved but i don't know i'm i'm glad tucker's trying you know little by
1:39:32 little maybe he's doing the leak method where a little by little he'll tell people yeah okay finally it's demons okay so which is interesting sorry i walked on you what did you say i said we'll just keep watching and hope he gets to that point yeah a hundred percent i hope i hope so too i i think it's interesting you the words you said they're they're leaking a little bit i don't know if he's you know people in here in the chat i've seen him mention i say isn't tucker kabbalah and we've talked about that previously i think he uh he has been wearing the the red thread around his his wrist and we've seen that before i don't know you know maybe he was just doing a fad we've seen uh uh celebrities do that where they you know throw up a sign or cover one eye not because they believe they're in some society but because they see other people doing it other people have maybe he was purposely doing that maybe it was a rubber band we don't know but i think i think what what is interesting is that he at least he's reading the bible and another factoid i think is interesting is that there have been people that have said matter-of-factly that this stuff will be released in before 2025 2026 i forget the exact date but they said this stuff is leaking out and we're going to do it a slow roll and uh we need to do it a slow roll and we need to do it a slow roll to have it leaked out before 2025 there's a lot there's a lot of people talking about 2025 i don't know why i mean i've heard people say 2025 2026 but the majority even in in the uh the cult books that have been written decades ago everyone talks about 2025 i find that fascinating and a little spooky and a little scary but at the same time i think that we have a bigger god and so that we need to hang on because something is happening here that is is beyond spiritualism i mean it is spiritualism but it is beyond our control and i i uh i truly believe that this next year and the following are going to be significant so that said what is the truth about this whole thing let's dig into it further if you've been involved in this realm at all you've heard the word cover-up and it's always government cover-up this government cover-up that and the leading researchers themselves have agendas and they are covering up information that they don't want you to hear like what you're hearing from me today after 20 25 years of this research working with over 600 plus cases of abductions we have found that the name and authority of jesus christ and a personal relationship with him can not only stop this experience but terminate it as a life pattern this gentleman that we had taken his testimony he said that he had called out in the name and authority of jesus christ said jesus jesus helped me and experience abruptly stopped and he woke up in bed well these leading researchers off the record they told me that they too had come across similar cases where people had either hummed a hymn or sang a hymn or quoted scripture or something of the sort and the experience stopped and i said but you guys said that this couldn't be stopped and they said well their answers were we didn't know what to make of it and i would have been fine with that except that they had to go and give me another excuse and it said the excuse was we were afraid to go there because it might affect our credibility in the ufo research community so that's withholding information yeah that's pridefulness too yeah that's cover up after 20 some years of doing this and you know the the navy seeing the the objects that they're seeing and we being able to see the videos of what they're seeing um that's just giving more clarity to all of this and giving more um understanding to the general public that yes something is going on um fascinating something is going on here and it's definitely spiritual and if you can thwart it with the calling out the name jesus christ to having a relationship with him i think that's that's a that's a huge thing and if that's being covered up something much bigger than us is happening um uh before i move it on to uh so i'm gonna put it to you next wendy i want to say uh
1:44:22 one of the people in chat thank you so much for your super chat trevor he says i have been screen sharing this episode with my MetaVR big screen a lot. Interesting results. Most people come in and realize it's Christian perspective and leave the room. It is. This is a hard topic because not only is it a very niche thing to talk about, but we're also taking the hardest way to talk about it because it is definitely going to be the most interesting and the most truthful in the end. And I've talked to many people about that and that's why I've seen podcasts that go along the exact same thing. They're UFO podcasts. They were started right when this podcast was started. They have three times as subscribers because three people are more fascinated with it being extraterrestrials than the Bible. Sad, but it's true. And most Christians are not wanting to talk about this. They'd rather just go to church and not realize and not think about there's actually a spiritual battle and it's physical. And you... You need to be very aware of it because lots of people are going to be caught off guard. That's why we've got to talk about it. We've got to talk about it at church. So many people are not talking about it and it's very important to tell people about it because this is going to be, it's going to affect a lot of lives very soon. I mean, year, year and a half too. I believe it. It's going to be a big effect on people. So, let me recap what Joe Jordan said and see what you guys think about this whole thing. There is a cover-up of the UFO Research researchers and they are not telling you everything, he says, but calling out to the name of Jesus will stop it. And it stopped many, even 600 that he's, he's counted. I'm going to go to you, Wendy, first. I think I said Wendy. I was going to go to you first, right? Yeah. This actually, Brad, is probably one of my favorite clips that I've ever seen on your show. As a mom with small kids, excuse me, it's hard to, you know, bring up the subject of aliens.
1:46:26 I mean, you're like, hey, how you doing? How's it been? Oh, good. What have you been up to? Oh, this, there's this research group I, you know, I follow a lot and spend time in. Okay, cool. The minute you say aliens, they're like, uh, what? Anyway, like, we'll just change the subject. But truth be told, you know, you can tell them all the facts. If people, if they hear this little bit, like, how can you tell them all the facts? Like, how can you tell them all the facts? Like, how can you tell them all the facts? Like, how can you tell them all the facts? Like, how can you deny the truth? Over 600 cases, not from at one state, from all around the world of people who have called on Jesus. And the demonic, sorry, the alien activity completely stopped. Of course it's demonic. That's the power in the name of Jesus. Nothing else can do that. You know, it says in the Bible that Satan can cast out Satan. So clearly Satan is being cast out by the bigger, stronger power. And, um, when I have shared that little bit of information like that clip with friends, um, just, you know, verbatim telling them about it, it's really open their eyes and their ears. It's like suddenly they're willing to listen to some more of the alien, you know, facts that I've learned along the way. Um, what I find really fascinating about it is you said this before is that it doesn't always work for some people. And, um, Joe Jordan's talking about, you know, you have to have that continued really, relationship with Christ, which is so important. Um, I just kind of want to throw out this though in the Bible, what it says, and I wish I had the scripture on hand, but I don't. It says, those, those of you that call out to me with a pure heart, I will listen. And so God knows the intentions of our hearts, 100%. And you don't have to have a relationship with Jesus. The first time you call on him, but as you're calling on him, God reads your intentions.
1:48:23 If you're calling on him just to see if it works, but you don't really believe, yeah, it's not going to work. Sorry. It's not how things, things go with God. He reads your heart and he gives you the intentions of your heart. And so if you're calling on Jesus for the first time, as a sinner, you know, as somebody far from God, that's the prayer he's never going to turn away. If you're seeking God, he's going to answer you. And so, so powerful. I'm going to, out of all the clips that you share, Rod, that's my favorite by and far. Um, it's just, it shows the power of God and shows matter of factly who we are dealing with and how to stop it. Um, I would tell you, even as a Christian, if I didn't have that little bit of info going through all this alien, the NHI stuff, hearing that there's such a, a dark, horrible side to it all and thinking, well, man, I don't ever want to experience that. But knowing that there's an answer, you know, all you got to do is stay close to God and he protects you. The demons, the dark forces, there's a, you know, there's a line they can't cross. When you belong to God, he protects you. So, um, yeah, I love it. I love that you shared that again. And then just, uh, one quick scripture that correlates is Jeremiah 29, 13. And that's the one that says, you will seek me and find me when you search for me with all of your heart. And again, I, you know, I think that's what Tucker's starting to do.
1:49:49 Or at least it seems. And, um, I'm glad that we have the answer. Like what happens when we seek God? The darkness flees. So, you know, praise God for Joe Jordan and being able to share that here so often. Praise God. Sarah, what do you think? Um, yeah, like with what, um, Wendy was saying, draw close to God and he'll draw close to you. Um, and like, it's funny cause everything she said, I was actually thinking, um, a, a, a parallel to it. Like the guys who were trying to cast out the demons of the Bible and the demons were like, Paul, I know, and Jesus, I know, but who are you? And then they beat them up and strip them. Um, so they were trying to wield the name of Jesus, like, you know, uh, and, uh, they learned the hard way. Um, but the super chat actually has a lot to do with, um, what, like people don't want to hear. The truth. They have the tickling ear syndrome where they just want to hear like, oh, you know, they're going to come down and the Hollywood, you know, ideas, they don't want to actually know that it's a life or death situation. And, um, you know, it's just interesting that, um, it would, uh, harm their credibility to actually make it about more than just little green men.
1:51:20 Yeah. That's, that's weird. It is weird. And it's, it's weird that, um, Christians are opposed to hearing about it. I think, I found it fascinating when Wendy said they, uh, they're opposed to hear about it unless they, they have something to tie it to Christianity. I mean, cause I imagine they're thinking, this stuff isn't real. Why, why are we even talking about this? But when, once we, it's like, oh, you mean Jesus gets rid of this stuff? That means it is demonic. What, what was going on here? That's fascinating. And so I think that's what, what, why, uh, Joe Jordan's ministry is so important in CE4. CE4 research, I think it is. Meredith, what do you think? Well, I, I agree with both of you. Um, you know, it's, it's, um, it's, it's beautiful to see that how God's power just, you know, comes in and, and alleviates the, the pain and the strife and, and the, the scaredness, the fear, you know, that people are having. Um, God's power is strong. And I, I think it does come down to the, um, tent of the heart. You know, God knows your heart. And, um, I, I've actually, when I seen an orb one night coming back from church, literally following me all the way from church to home, that was the first thing that I said was Jesus. I didn't know what it was. Cause this was before the show. This was before I even knew anything. I just said, if this is not of you, Lord, in Jesus name, take it away. And I mean, in a split second, it right off faster than speed of light gone. And that's another story. But anyway, I have to say that I know the power of God and it is real and, and God knows the intent of my heart because I was really calling on him because I was actually praying all the way home. So, um, I, I just want to say this verse, um, that kind of correlates with this in Matthew seven, um, seven and eight, you know, if we ask, ask and it will be given to you, seek and you will find, knock and the door and it will be open to you for everyone who asks, receives and who seeks, finds and to him who knocks and it will be open. You know, Jesus wants to, to help each and every one of us that are in need and, and when it comes to this or anything else. Praise God. Absolutely. Did you have something else you wanted to say? Oh, Wendy. Yeah. Yeah. So, sorry, where am I? John seven, 16, John 16, 33. So in the world, you will have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.
1:54:12 Uh, Meredith, I just love that story. I mean, it was such a short little story that you shared, but what I took note in that is that you are coming home from church and you're praying and you see this. So clearly as Christians, we are not above, you know, tribulations. Things still happen. We're, especially as the close of time comes, you know, we're going to be tested. We're going to be put through the fire. That's the point of, you know, strengthening our faith. And so, um, I love that your initial response to call it to Jesus and it's gone. Um, amazing. I just love testimony. So thanks for sharing that Meredith. Praise God. How many want to hear Meredith's testimony? I want to hear that. I mean, we don't have to be tonight, but I'd love for you to come back and actually tell us what in the world happened. That's, I never heard that story before. That's, I mean, that's interesting. So yeah, that's, and it's a, it's a, it's a, a happy ending too. Amen. Yes. So come back and tell us more in the discord. I think that you should, uh, you should write something in the discord before, uh, we do that. And if y'all want to hear that, great segue, go, go to patreon.com slash strange, normal, and join us. We'll see you next time. Bye. Join us in the private group, the Patreon by joining that, uh, group via Patreon. Uh, I mean, join discord via Patreon. That's how you get in there. So, um, thank y'all. We're going to jump into the next show. Uh, we have gone an hour over, so I think I'm going to save the second show for tomorrow, but I, I think that was worth it to go through this whole show. We're going to continue this whole entire episode all the way till midnight. We're going to count down until midnight. I'm not sure if we should end this.
1:55:56 And, and start it up again, because I'm worried people will disappear, but we all need to, to, uh, maybe take a little break. And so what I'll do is I'm going to, I'm going to end it. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to, I'm going to end it. We're going to jump back in. You'll have to go back to the, back to my main YouTube channel and you'll have to click on the next, uh, the next live stream, which is already prepared. And, uh, and we'll see you back here in just a moment. All right, we're clear.