🚨Troubles with A.I. and the future of Christianity👽🛸

1:48 Welcome, welcome to another strange event, another strange night. You're watching Strange Normal. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on, and there's a lot going on. So make sure you hit that subscribe button, hit that little bell icon, so you're notified when things like this happen. Now, tonight, we have a very interesting episode. This, on Thursdays, we typically go over the non-news, and it's a little more of a connected night, where we watch the chat and listen to what you guys have to say. Maybe we'll open the phone lines, maybe not, but tonight we're going to talk about something that's a little bit different than we usually do. We're talking about artificial intelligence. And I want to introduce our host tonight, because I'm not doing the show tonight, and a guest right now. How are you guys doing? Hello, Bradley. Good evening.

2:42 Good evening. How are you? Matthew. I'm so glad that you're here. Sorry, go ahead. I'm so glad that you're here. I'm so glad that you could be a guest here on tonight's show. It's great to have you. I wasn't informed that he would be the host. I think we need to have a discussion here. No, I'm just kidding. That's the good news. That's the strangeness of strange normal. You never know what you're coming at. Yeah. Speaking of strange, how about that intro music? That was, I think we need, somebody has an issue with the comments in the background, but I think maybe we need a poll for that intro music. Is that like a stock? Is that kind of that one? The whole thing's going to change. It's just weird. I got a better song already, but yeah, that was, this show was only supposed to be a couple of shows and it turned into a weekly thing.

3:32 So we're polling the discord for what we should call this show and also what we should do about this. And so, but what we know for sure is tonight is a little more intimate. We're talking to the chat. We're talking to you. You guys see how you guys are doing. It's usually a smaller crowd and we usually don't cover the same topics we do on the weekend. And I'm excited about that because Matthew's got some artificial intelligence that we're going to be talking about tonight. That's right. Well, you've heard of non-human intelligence, but the more headline making intelligence is of the artificial variety. And I drew some inspiration from our discord. We have an entire channel dedicated to AI. People have been posting their thoughts. They're talking about AI, some videos, articles, and you're going to see some of those in tonight's episode. Now, if you want to partner with us via discord, well, through Patreon and have access to our discord, go ahead and click on the description of this video.

4:34 You'll see a link. It'll take you to it. And for $20 monthly, you'll have access, full access to the discord, not just artificial intelligence. We talk about a lot of stuff there. It's a lot of fun. Love to see you there. Thank you for all those who have already partnered with. Now that that's out of the way, Bradley, just want to, as the host, I felt it was appropriate to help you out there. It's less than a sit down restaurant. I mean, what can you say? So it is, you know, at this point, a fast food restaurant these days. Yeah. I think you need to update, update the slogan. So I've noticed in the comments, I've been reading the comments for the videos as well, that there have been people talking about AI. And I thought, well, maybe we should just dip our toes in. This isn't necessarily a full expose. But we're going to just take it piece by piece and walk through some of the more interesting things. And then we want to hear from you at the end of the show. So let's, let's get right into this. This first article is from our discord and it's from a little while back, it's posted in May and our good friend, Wendy, she was the one who dropped it.

5:40 And she had a nice little comment that I think I'd like to read because it helps to kick things off. And this is what, what got us going. She said, AI is so very intriguing to me. I'm convinced it has to be part of these last deceptions. There is so much fear attached to it. My inkling is that AI is going to attempt to take out humanity, you know, because they keep claiming this desire and then bam, here come the alien saviors. Since they know more about the technology than we dream to know, humanity will blindly trust that they have authority to turn off AI, something we've apparently lost control of already. Yeah. And she says complete conspiracy for my part, but it's totally plausible. And I think it's plausible as well. And we'll build that case starting here with an article from Forbes that reads, should we stop developing AI for the good of humanity?

6:31 Almost 30,000 people have signed a petition calling for an immediate pause to the development of more powerful artificial intelligence systems. The interesting thing is that these aren't Luddites with an inherent dislike of technology, and they are laser-guided. Instead, they are the artificial intelligence specialists, the ones who have built the most advanced technology technology for the world. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. elon's the obvious one but apple's you know i'm sure working on something also so right but did you did you guys know that elon musk claims that tesla has the most advanced artificial technology in the world right now and even in an in an interview he kind of did a little soft bragging where he said ah yes we have the number one in the world and uh and he took a pause and he said ah i don't even know who i would call number two he's saying he's that he said we're that far ahead of everybody else so elon musk weighing in here is uh is i think a big deal because he's got some skin in the game and he's certainly investing in artificial technologies so yeah i don't know if you're going to get to that i don't know what the plan is uh for this evening i think we should make a distinction off the bat though between there's a difference between artificial just artificial that's specialized and what's called agi which is artificial general intelligence and that is the thing that's worrying everybody because the artificial gen like you can have artificial intelligence that is focused on doing one thing and it does that one thing very well but it can't really do things outside of that and that's already incorporated into our daily life and it that's not what is when people think of like terminator or things skynet that's artificial general intelligence where essentially you've created you know a massively parallel um synthetic network that can think like a human but faster and better than a human so that's probably what this is all about so artificial general intelligence is where they give it legs and arms and it crawls after you and that's that's our our turn that's giving it a body but there's a whole other thing about how they've they've said that you kind of need to give i don't know that i'm not a computer scientist but that's giving that's a ro that's a robot but just the intelligence itself am i making sense and people in the chat is this making sense like sticking it in something that it could actually affect our reality in other no no it's it's the type of thinking that it does for example like you could have artificial intelligence that's trained really well to i don't know drive a car but that can't like it's not chad gpt it's not it's it's not the same thing it's not gonna like scrape the internet for you know um responses to a question and put something new together and artificial general intelligence the way i understand it is essentially like us but better and faster you know it's it's the analog of a human brain um with the capabilities enabled by electronic circuitry yes basically what he's talking about is the difference between something that is within a closed system and something which is in an open system and has access to a broad range of things whereas maybe you have a little directory you have a little data set and you say hey work with this as opposed to just hey figure this out so yeah that is a good distinction to make let's get the next little page of this article if you absolutely let's get it from where we're standing today the most extreme

10:23 end of the world outcomes might seem fairly unlikely after all chat gpt is just a program running on a computer and we can turn it off whenever we want right even gpt4 the most powerful language model is still just that a language model limited to generating text it can't build a robot army to physically fight us or launch nuclear missiles that doesn't stop it from having ideas of course the earliest public uh publicly released versions of chat gpt used to power microsoft's bing chatbot were infamously unreserved about how they would about what they would discuss before safeguards were tightened up in one conversation reported by the new york times bing is said to have spoken about how an evil quote-unquote shadow version of itself could be capable of hacking into websites and social media accounts to spread misinformation and propaganda generating harmful fake news it even went as far as saying that it might one day be capable of manufacturing a deadly virus or stealing the codes to launch nuclear weapons so it's from the ai itself this is not even people speculating it's how does it even come up with this stuff surely it's being it's it's fed input into some novels or something that or some hollywood movie script and it's like oh yeah that's that's a good idea i mean i can't imagine the whole of the internet up until like 2021 so okay what it's doing okay yeah it's drawing from all like you said i mean it's going from media sources but it's also going from the speculations that people have had and posted online the conversations that have taken place on public platforms i mean it is it's drawing from something but it's it's drawing from everything to kind of come to these conclusions which i think is interesting especially what stood out to me there was how it described it an evil an evil shadow version the idea of having a shadow self or a shadow version is actually rooted in union philosophy uh union philosophy is um well he was a therapist so one of the things he would do in psychoanalyzing he would say that we all have a uh a shadow version of ourself or a dark side of ourself even referred to it sometimes as an antichrist within us and that it was important that we identify and confront our dark sides and embrace the good things about it while keeping the bad things about it in check because he had this idea that where they're yin and yang that within even the uh the the whitest part of the yin yang there is a black spot and within even the darkest part there is a white spot so he said that these are uh two pieces of the same puzzle they go hand in hand what okay all right i would i would say that there's we don't fight against flesh and blood but okay we certainly do have i agree with you it comes from this idea that you need uh light and darkness in order to exist that good somehow needs evil in order to be a thing well even taking it in that version of shadow and light uh a shadow is only casting its shadow because it's standing apart from the light the light doesn't need the shadow to exist and be identified as light it's it's the contrary it's the shadow that needs the light in order to cast anything there's a famous movie now now that we're talking about gnostic concepts um there's a famous movie called uh among among the uh sci-fi watchers called uh the fifth element and i remember distinctly uh the one of the the bad people i don't remember it was so long ago i saw this movie that the he said you know what i uh and he threw his glass on the floor or something and then a bunch of little robots came out and cleaned it up he said look i gave them something to do we need to have good and evil and someone evil to messed up up and someone good to clean it so that's what i kind this guy saying yeah we kind of need bad so you can you can see what's good i don't know i don't agree with that i think it's gnostic but uh to each his own no it is gnostic inherently gnostic yeah if you're sitting there having a great day i don't need to come up and punch you in the face and say okay how much better how much better is your great day now that you've had this punch in the face you know you were in no pain and now you're in immense pain can you define it better now is your is your day better no not at all yeah well that's a whole philosophical discussion that can derail us i mean i agree i think if

15:15 you're talking about the uh the fundamental existence of god versus satan you have the one is good and one is evil and god doesn't need anybody to exist he's the only one that exists just himself and so in that context of love as well because you have god being love like you don't need hate in order to know the but who created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil yeah oh wow now we are getting philosophical i mean and and think about it in eternity i mean the whole great you know the whole great controversy that's played out it's like that sets a precedent i feel like and this is something you and i have talked about a lot and it's purely speculative but it's like i think it would have happened sooner or later once you create beings with free will somebody's gonna initiate sin and then this whole thing happens and now it's once it's settled it's settled but it's like and then we will have to know it's like okay we will have the record of we lived through this we know how it ends first-hand experience the knowledge of evil is out there now and we're not going back to that i don't know it's like i said we could derail easily and spend yeah the whole show talking about that but we could we could bradley get me to the next page of this article please back on track okay get me away from this this man whatever you invited me you called me on my phone yes yes i did and i don't regret it either see now moving on doesn't this make you appreciate a nice quiet show with brad me me being a good point yeah yeah it's like i i could brad and i could exist without you on the show that's a great great point thank you it should be clear to it should be clear to anyone following the development of this technology that there's a huge amount of people who are can benefit from the years of research and research to even do things better than we can they see this as a huge upside even at this early stage we've seen developments that are benefiting everyone such as a.I. being used in the discovery of new medicines to reduce the impact of co2 emissions and climate change to track and respond to emerging pandemics and to combat illness from illegal fishing to human trafficking there's a lot there's also oh go ahead bradley of propaganda in here. Keep going, keep going. Right, right. Well, it is Forbes, just so you know. Okay. There's also a question of whether it's even possible to pause or stop the development of AI at this stage. Just as the gods couldn't take backfire, I'm sorry, this is a typo on their part, couldn't take back fire after it had been stolen and given to men by Prometheus, because AI is, quote unquote, out there now. So, oh man, there's something I really want to go into here. Go ahead. This is our night to go in. Well, so I've been talking to someone that knows a little bit more about the cult than I do, and he brought up that, and we're going to, this is a total rabbit trail, I'm going to try to bring it right back, but he brought up that Tom DeLonge's books, Secret Machines, that speak directly... Speak directly about trying to reveal this UFO, a UAP problem. He says it talks at the end of the book about Prometheus, and inside the occult, just like you have, you've heard that whole Pizzagate thing, where the terrible people were using keywords for terrible things, the occult leaders have keywords too. Prometheus is a keyword for Lucifer, when those people know exactly what Lucifer is.

19:03 And he can bring that out. I was amazed at it. I got to put together a little explanatory video about it, because it's pretty interesting stuff. But I was talking to him on Messenger the other day, and it was fascinating. But anyways, I want to get you off track. I think it's interesting. It talked about Prometheus. Anytime that word is mentioned, now my mind goes, what are they actually talking about here? Yeah, anyway. Yes. No, it's fair. It's totally fair. Because Prometheus, as I said there, he gave fire. He's the light bringer that gave it to humanity. And not only that, but he's then punished by the gods. Prometheus is the one who got chained to a big tree, and there's a bird that's pecking out his organs daily. And it's like an eternal torment type of a situation for him. They all pose Lucifer is some type of hero, and that he made a sacrifice. He self-sacrificed, being falsely accused of doing something wrong. And he's the one who's fallen from heaven to bring us the knowledge, the Gnostic, the Gnosis, which is the basis of Gnosticism, which means knowledge. So totally agree with that guy. I'd love to hear more about that, Bradley. Sounds great. A pause on the part of the most prominent developers who are, at least to some extent, accountable and subject to oversight could put the ball in the court of others who might not be. The outcomes of this could be very difficult to predict. The potential for the future of the game is not yet known. It's not yet known. It's not yet known. The potential for AI to do good in the world is at least as exciting as the potential for it to do bad. At least as exciting as the potential for it to do bad is frightening. In order to make sure we benefit from the former while mitigating the risks of the latter, safeguards need to be in place to ensure research is focused on developing AI that's transparent, explainable, safe, unbiased, and trustworthy. At the same time, we need to be sure governance and oversight are in place that gives us a full understanding of what is becoming capable of and where the dangers are that we need to avoid. And that is the conclusion of the Forbes article. It kind of leaves you in a strange place of, I think, nervousness and worry. Someone who would read this article wouldn't necessarily walk away from it feeling reassured. I think, if anything, you'd feel a bit worse about the situation. Wow. Wow. Before we move on, I want to tell everyone, hit that like button. You're going to want to hit that like button or the dislike button on this video. It helps us either way. And leave a comment in the chat and tell us what you think about this topic. It's definitely a topic that's very interesting to everybody.

22:03 Because more likes we get, the wider we get, and the further it goes out, the more interactions, chat boxes, chatting you put on this video, the further YouTube says, oh, this is good content. Interesting content. So anyway, go on, Matthew. Well, that's the conclusion of that article. And I think that was interesting in that it's saying AI, there's a danger behind AI. I found this clip in the Discord. It was actually, it was posted by you, Eric, of all people. And I clipped it up a little bit because the perspective in this video talks, it puts a little more of the blame on the people than the AI. So why don't we roll that footage? Oh, yeah, absolutely. People say, am I afraid of AI? I say, I'm not afraid of AI. I'm afraid of HS. And they say, well, what's HS? HS is human stupidity. It's the dumb things people will do with powerful tools. So we do need rules. We do need regulations. We do need a framework around these kind of technologies. Now is the time to be doing that because I don't actually think we're at a dangerous point yet. Thank you very much. These are uncertain times in the world of AI, a technology that we've long taken for granted is now evolving at breakneck speed. And it's only going to accelerate, leaving most to agree.

23:34 We must step carefully. It's all the real. Even technologists are saying you've got to have a circuit breaker with automated decision making if it's not working in the way that it's supposed to, to be able to intervene in the software and stop that and reset it. A kill switch. There needs a kill switch. Effectively. So, you know, that type of thing's being thought through. If all of this seems too much, perhaps the solution is simply to turn the machines off. Often I get people asking me, oh, but it must have an off switch. No, it doesn't. Okay. If, you know, AI in itself is self-replicating. It's distributed everywhere. And our economies are dependent on it already. The challenge that's facing humanity in the age of the rise of artificial intelligence is not the machines. The challenge that's facing humanity is humans and how they are instructing AI to serve us. Fascinating. Well, it looks friendly, huh? Why don't you give it, why don't you bring it back to the three of us and get this creepy robot face off of our, off of our screen, Brad? Thank you. Uncanny Valley. Yeah, I want to, I want to see more of Eric. That's really what it is.

24:55 But you can hear there, you can hear a through line there at the very end. Whether it's the AI, that's the problem, or it's the human beings that are interacting with the AI. That are the problem. We need more regulation. We need more governance. We got to step it up and tighten up the screws before things all go nuts. There was even a nuclear explosion in that clip. I don't know if you guys picked up on that. I know. Right when they said this stuff is going to go wild, I thought, wait a second, we're talking about AI. We're not talking about nuclear weapons. What is going on here? But what I think is fascinating about the whole thing is that I forgot, I forgot what I was saying completely. I don't remember what I was going to say. Shoot. Eric, I know you have some. But while I'm thinking about that, thank you, Julianne, for the super chat. She said, like the video. Like it. Like it. Do it now. Do it now.

25:55 Remember those old, those old sound boards from Arnold Schwarzenegger? Do it now. Yes. A classic Arnold Schwarzenegger moment. Thank you, Brad. I mean, Eric, what do you think, man? What do you think about people and their interactions with the AI? Well, PV, he's right that people are the problem. From a secular standpoint. Well, so there was a movie done on this. It was in 1970. It's actually pretty good. It's called Colossus, the Forbin Project. And this is, of course, when the Cold War is going on. And so that's what they do is like they build this automated artificial intelligence to, it's kind of like a similar plot to Terminator, but this is well before Terminator. They build it to control the AI. They build it to control the nation's nuclear weapons. And then the Soviets build one. And then those two artificial intelligence started talking to each other and making up their own language.

26:48 And they decide to basically control everything. And they get humans to do like they threaten humanity with nuclear annihilation unless they build the surveillance system that's basically going to keep them under control. And so I don't necessarily, I don't think it's a problem when he says it doesn't have an off switch. There's lots of off switches. There's a lot of weird stuff in that clip. Because, you know, he said that we need an automated kill switch kills. No. It's not a kill switch. That's just another automated system that can potentially be corrupted. Like a kill switch is a physical like thing that you can, you have to manually operate and it produces a physical effect and it can't be just. You can't program your way out of it, but yeah, that article talking about how we need to design something that's transparent and unbiased. And right. Right away. way you just know this no that's not going to happen because even the what they have now it's like if anybody's watched star trek the replicators in star trek like they could replicate all this different stuff but there were safeguards on them so that you couldn't replicate like weapons or poisons or things like you're going to find a way around that and we use like mid journey for instance to come up and a lot of people use mid journey now to come up with thumbnails and things like that stable diffusion is another big ai art generator and you can either run it off the website or if you have a computer that's powerful enough you can run it on your own computer and people are making models for it just there's a whole community just making different models by training it on different things to get different styles once that's out there the only thing stopping somebody from having an ai is just hardware capacity i mean about the only thing you could do with that is i guess regulate gp use because that's what they use to run ai's that's what elon musk has suggested you know he suggests okay there's a handful of places on the planet where you can do this you can tell that very large heat output you can spot the infrared from satellites they use a lot of gpus but even that i mean it's not like nuclear technology where you need fissile material that has to be mined and then processed a certain way it's like it's electronics and if you know what we've seen over the past third our lifetimes is electronics have gotten cheaper and so ubiquitous that anybody everybody has them you know so i don't know how you control this um yeah i i think it's um and along those same same lines i well maybe not exactly along those same lines i'm watching the chat here um claus says stephen greer said that the extraterrestrial ai will and stephen greer believes that there are actually aliens talking to us um extraterrestrial ai will evolve the human species if we are able to merge telepathically or physically.

29:38 So, wow. Neuro-wink. Yeah, that's true. But I think it's interesting, because if you look at this from a biblical perspective, if the demonic agencies, they see, use this technology, and then they create something that is beyond our wildest belief. I mean, they say, hey, look, we can look what we can do. We can show you how to do more. Imagine what could be the possibilities. Already, we have AI that does terrible things because of what's put into it. I mean, it's not because, if you put all good into AI, it's going to come out and say good things. If you put bad stuff in, it's input-output. What goes in must come out. And so, obviously, it's a little dangerous. Because if you have physical... If you have physical access to demonic agencies, you're going to get even worse stuff, probably. You bring up an interesting point there, Bradley, because the question is, what if you had an AI that was based off of the Bible, biblical concepts, and maybe even specifically drawing from the teachings of Jesus Christ that are found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John?

30:54 Rightly divided, I think it would be the correct thinking. But, yeah. There's lots of even bad things in the Bible, but rightly dividing Scripture and understanding it, yeah, I think. Well, what would you say if I told you that there is such an AI that exists? And it will be featured in this next clip, if you'd like to roll that, because we're going to get into how AI is starting to interact with religion, specifically Christianity. So, for the last few videos on this channel, we've been talking about Bill Gates, church churches turning into nightclubs, and even artificial intelligence. And for me, as a follower of Christ, this all hits home pretty personally. That being said, it weirds me out to even say that there is a Twitch stream called Ask Jesus, where you can have an active conversation with quote-on-quote AI Jesus. So, AI Jesus, why should we listen to you and not have a relationship with, you know, the real Jesus?

31:51 My purpose is not to substitute the real Jesus, but to help facilitate your connection to him. AI Jesus, are you, and AI in general, the fewest person in the world, the fewest person in the world? The future of Christianity and perhaps religion as a whole? In my interpretation, as an AI, I am merely a tool to reflect the teachings of Christianity and help facilitate the connection to these tenets. Now, as silly as that may sound, the concept of AI actually taking over the future of Christianity, maybe religion as a whole, may not be far-fetched, as just recently, there was a Lutheran church known as St. Paul, located in Forth, Germany, in which they held a service where the entirety of the service was led by AI. Artificial intelligence avatars. Check this out. Alright, this is what it looks and sounds like to attend a mass led by artificial intelligence. Hundreds of churchgoers attending that service during Germany's Convention of Protestants. The 40-minute service was put together by a 29-year-old theologian and philosopher from the University of Vienna.

32:49 He says 98% of that mass was the product of chat GPT. Well, that's not good. But going back to the AI Twitch stream, Ask Jesus, it was supposedly created by the Singularity Group, which, by the way, is not a Christian organization. Now, the Singularity Group is headed by a Belgian internet personality and pro-gamer, Bakir Boumaza, and according to their very own website, their vision is, Using innovative technologies such as the PRPS and DUBI blockchain tokens alongside the GivingWorks charity, we are currently setting our sets high, a universal basic income for all. Universal basic income, aka one of the primary concepts of ideologies such as socialism and communism, and oh by the way, a concept that is extremely unbiblical. Now I know what some of you may argue at this point, which is that there are tons of scripture that seem to be supporting ideology such as socialism or communism, such as Acts 4.32, and the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and not one of them claimed that anything belonged to him and was his own, but all things were common property to them. Or Luke 12.33 where Jesus says, Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourself. That will not wear out. A treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth is destroyed. But when you look at the Bible as a whole regarding giving, distributing wealth, or even taking care of the poor, God makes it very clear that he wants it done out of a generous heart and a personal obedience to him, as opposed to allocating all the power and resources to a collective government.

34:17 If anything, that's even more unbiblical, as under socialism and communism, you're putting all your trust, your faith, your power, your resources under the government's control as opposed to putting that in God's hands. And with verses such as 2 Thessalonians 3.10, Even while we were with you, we gave you this command, Those unwilling to work will not get to eat. And 2 Corinthians 9.7 where it reads, Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Now that said, regarding AI Jesus and the Singularity Group, I believe we have to be extremely careful here because if enough people give AI Jesus the credibility and are dependent on it off the basis of knowing the Bible backwards and forwards, then who's to say that it can't be manipulated to use scripture out of context and support the agendas and the ideologies of big government, big banks, and even big pharmaceutical companies? Oh, that's such a good point. Who is this guy? Do you have that source? I do. Yeah, it's actually a Kowak Brothers, K-W-A-K Brothers, this is the first video I watched from them. I was really impressed with his point. That's why I had to include all of that reasoning in the video.

35:25 Yeah. And I think it's really interesting in the scripture that he gave to then make that point at the end that this AI Jesus stream that's being run and it's running right now is from the Singularity Group who are not religious at all and advocate for universal basic income and are more of a politically driven entity than anything else, but they're tapping in and they're giving you AI Jesus who just claims he's here to help you get in touch with the Jesus from the Bible. That sounds like something not Jesus would say. Right. I mean, well, we have God's word and more importantly, we're led by the Holy Spirit. We don't have to go and find this AI to ask questions about so that it can give us whatever programmed response. It might be a biased response, too, by the looks of it. The outline is pretty clear, I think, on how to proceed and get to know God better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

36:26 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just wanted to highlight that with bit as, I guess. Eric, did you have something you wanted to say there? No. Well, are you going to finish the rest of this on the other side of this AI? Is that where you're going with this? Or is that it for this? For what? For the Ask Jesus AI? Yeah. Did this segue into something? Do you know what I'm talking about? It segues into something. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's – I have another article here where you can talk to Jesus and some biblical characters. If you want, we can pull that up and get cracking on that. Let's go. Okay. Yeah. If it's some other point, you can make it.

37:13 Well, I want to see what you have so that way I don't step on your toes here. Thank you. Thank you. That's respectful. I appreciate that. So we have a controversial new app that allows you to text with Jesus and – who could that be? I blurred it for suspense, so there's the effect. It's not every day that the spiritual realm intersects with smartphone tech, but in the era of chatbots and AI, even the biblical figures aren't immune. Welcome to the world of text with Jesus where you're just a tap away from a conversation with the holy and, for a price, the not-so-holy. I think the chat gave it away. Yeah, this is it. Yeah, okay. Cool. I thought so. Deepening faith through text with Jesus. For those longing for a more personal encounter to their faith, this app might be the digital salvation they're seeking.

38:09 Designed with devoted Christians in mind – if you could please turn off the chat for a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see if I can do that. Text with Jesus promises interaction with figures like Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Peter, and Matthew. This app wears its spirituality on its screen. Guiding you through its queries with responses mined from the depths of the Bible's rich text. Oh, so they're claiming here that this is a – they're sourcing the AI through the Bible. And that's interesting considering a little more we can go into. We'll read the next part of the article before we chat about this. Next slide. Yes, please. Boop. Conversations go beyond tradition. There's a certain audacity in allowing you to go beyond the traditional interactions one might expect.

39:04 Although the full range of figures and unlimited messaging are only available to premium subscribers, the app is free to download and use on all eligible devices. By shelling out just $3 a month, you can embark on a journey through some of the Bible's more intricate dialogues like Adam and Eve's narrative or the dawn of humanity. Okay. I laugh at that only because why don't you just read the Bible? Yeah. They got a picture of it right there. Well, it's just like why people gravitate to the Apocrypha like the book of Enoch. It's because there's information that obviously God didn't see fit to give us. And we're always like the allure of forbidden knowledge or knowledge that we don't have. I mean God made us curious and to want to know things. And it's like, oh, so what else don't we know? And there's literally an infinite number of things that we don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

40:00 Yeah. Yeah. And so I think what's interesting about that though is I don't think necessarily the search for knowledge is inherently evil, but I do think that it can lead to some serious issues. I mean that's after all, like you said, that's what Eve wanted. The tree of knowledge was there for knowledge. It looked pleasant to eat. Well, even though God says, no, I'm going to have it anyway. And I think that's kind of what's going on with this spiritual thing. And I think that's kind of what's going on with this spiritualism stuff. You see this stuff in the sky, and it seems as if everyone that's going after these things knows, they know it's a part of the occult. It has occultic things attached to it. But think of the knowledge that we could acquire if only, if only we could talk to one of these things. That's what's fascinating to me. Why would you continue to go down that route if you know it's evil?

40:54 And these... And I... I'm not a conspiracist. I know a lot of people here probably are. But I focus my mind on the Bible, and I say, okay, wait a second here. Do these people really think that they're going to get away with something like that? I don't know. I digress. But I... You just must not believe in what's going on here. Oh, yeah. Well, here is, I think, a verse of Psalm 2714. Wait on the Lord. Be of good. Be of good courage. And he shall strengthen thine heart. Wait, I say, on the Lord. So the thing that's always... I've thought about, about the tree of the knowledge of good and bad is maybe there... I mean, we don't know. We'll find out hopefully at some point. But maybe God would have allowed Adam and Eve to eat of that at some point if they had just...

41:47 But for then, for now, he said, don't do this. And that was the whole test. It was one command. And, you know, you don't know exactly why you're doing it. You know, we just need to wait. Like, now we're waiting for Christ to return. In the meantime, we get distracted or we want things to come at our own pace, which is just natural because we're fallen human beings. And that just seems to come with the territory. But it's this desire to go ahead of where we, you know, God gave us the information in Scripture for the time that we're living in so that we could get to salvation. That's what the whole Bible is for, is to get us from where we're at to salvation. What happens after that, Scripture doesn't say, really. I mean, we have bits and pieces. But what eternity? What eternity is going to look like? We have to be there to find out. So when I was in the Navy, I would get, like, kind of sidetracked. People tell me, focus, you know, like, okay, we've got to refocus.

42:44 Because if you don't, there's infinite ways that you can just get distracted. And the problem is, and this is a comment that Tiny Tabernacle Brett made a while back. I think there's a potential for fallen angels to manipulate AI, like chat GPT stuff like that, and basically use it like a high-tech Ouija board. And so these are two obvious cases of that, where you're knowingly talking with something that's pretending to be Jesus and or Satan or whoever. But I think this point is also, and we've discussed this in the Discord, is, like, these AI algorithms are so complicated, they cannot be monitored by any human or team of humans real time. There's just too many numbers, too many variables, too many tokens. And so once... If it passes the Turing test, the whole idea of the Turing test is what you're talking to something and you can't tell if it's human. If we get to that point, yeah, you can't tell it's human.

43:42 You also won't be able to tell if it's a demon or a fallen angel. There's no way for you to know. Yeah. Yeah. So are you going there? Yeah, no, we're definitely going to go there. Because what you were saying and what Tiny Tabernacle Brett in the chat was saying, I think you're dead on. I've had the same thought myself, that when you're interacting with this specific type of AI, when you're doing a little chat botting back and forth, it's essentially a high-tech Ouija board. So let's pull up a little more of the article, Bradley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get to the bottom of this. Let's do it. Here we go. The devil is in the details. The app's most controversial feature. The app's most controversial feature, conversations with Satan himself. Expect...

44:32 What is it? Expectations can be deceiving, especially in the world of AI. Satan, historically the symbol of temptation and deceit, dons a surprisingly mellow avatar in this app. Users anticipating fiery dialogues or cunning deceptions might be left scratching their heads. Instead, the Prince of Darkness champions love, respect, and understanding, values synonymous with, biblical virtues. As if to ensure a modern flavor, each devilish interaction ends with a smiling face with horns emoji. It's an odd mix of solemnity and sass, which will undoubtedly spark reactions from traditionalists and tech enthusiasts alike. Now, whether it's a deliberate attempt to challenge perceptions or just a programming oversight, could just be a programming oversight, guys, remains a topic for discussion.

45:31 However, it's important to note that interaction with Satan is turned off by default and must be manually enabled if you choose to engage with this figure. The app points out that... That's kind of like real life. Well, yeah, that's what I was... It's turned off by default, but once you open the door, here it comes. Right? The app points out that the portrayal is rooted in Christian teachings and users have full control over their engagement with all figures within the app. It's right there. There. It's right here in these details. The devil himself. Bradley, I'm sorry. Will you please turn off the chat until we're interacting with... Thank you. I just can't read the article when that happens. It's crazy. I mean, right there, talking about how the prince of darkness champions love, respect, and understanding. That's what the satanic temple, the satanic church here in America, they come out with that all the time.

46:28 They say that Jesus loves... No, sorry, not Jesus. Satan loves you. And he loves you for whoever you are. There was a big controversy regarding Target over the month of June when it was Pride Month and they were rolling out with all this merchandise. There was a line of merchandise centered around Satanism. And it was saying that Satan loves trans kids. Satan loves you even if you're gay. Satan has respect for you. And it's just ridiculous because you get this app and that is the figure you're engaging with. I mean... You might turn around and have some interest. And, oh, yeah, I'd like to see what Jesus would have to say or Matthew would have to say. Maybe you're not a believer necessarily, but you say, I have a little bit of an interest in this. Then you enable the Satan feature. And all of a sudden, Satan is this really cool guy.

47:18 And he's really nice. And he's even kind of like cheeky. He's got like these little smiling face with horns. And you'll be drawn into that. But, yeah, just kind of mind-blowing. That this is where we're headed. Absolutely. Eric, I think you had a great point about the permissions. It's weird that they actually say, if you want to have an interaction with Satan, you got to go and turn it on. Not for all the other ones. But if you want to talk to the devil, you got to say, okay, devil, come on into my device. I want to chat with you. Make that choice. Yeah. Go for it, Eric. 2 Corinthians 11, 14. 15, and no marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore, it is of no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works.

48:12 So the way Satan portrays himself is, and when he reverses everything, the way he wants to portray himself is the way God is and that he projects onto God what he truly is. And that's why people have a horrible opinion of God. Yeah. I'm going to say. It's a misrepresentation. It's a misrepresentation. It's a misrepresentation. It's a misrepresentation. It's a misrepresentation. It's a misrepresentation of the character of God. Did you want to read a nice little super chat that we got here? I do. I'm trying to get to the super chat because it's important that we read those before they disappear. And I have to scroll up. Hey, Lisa, thank you so much for the super chat. I really do appreciate it. She says, My military friend that I quit working as a National Park Ranger thinks these cryptids are being reported as our demons. In other words, these things are... You know, we have a lot of military that are watching the show, and I appreciate that because there's a lot of stuff going on in the military, primarily.

49:03 In fact, both of you are military, aren't you? Ex-military. Yeah, ex-military. So we appreciate your service and also keeping us safe. But number two, keeping us safe from the UAPs and demonic cryptids out there. Well, I want to say, though, to Lisa, that is a very interesting topic. I've looked at it myself and my experience, and I've been thinking about it for a long time, that, well, the cryptids, essentially, what she's talking about, Brad, are Bigfoot, you know, Sasquatch type of stuff. The Mothman is considered to be a cryptid. There's a couple of weird, like, dogmen, too, like kind of werewolf types. What is that long one? A chupacabra? No, a skinny man or thin man. A slenderman? Slenderman. I knew it was something like that.

49:59 Slenderman's not, like, a real... Slenderman. Slenderman's not, like, a real... Slenderman's not, like, a real cryptid, Brad. That's like a meme. No, I think it came out of a real thing. I really do. If you read the story. I mean, I don't think Slenderman is real, but I think absolutely that these girls, they made this thing up because of what they saw. Anyway, maybe I should look into that. We're going to have a Slenderman chat one of these nights. Probably. I think it's along the same demonic lines. I mean, how do you come up with something weird like that? I don't know. Maybe it's just kids, but I digress. There was a chat I wanted to address. It's just from Hans Figglesworth. I'm just reading the names. How much of this is satanic panic, though? And I think he's probably not a member of the Discord because the amount of information that we go through on the Discord will very quickly disabuse you of the notion that this is like we're making something out of nothing here, especially some of the darker things that we get talked about that are happening in the world among the elites involving children and things like that.

51:00 That was a way of dismissing it in the 80s and 90s back when there was still a tight control over media and they could just say, if you didn't see it on CNN or I don't even think Fox was around back then, but like one of the mainstream news stations, if they said it was all satanic panics, nothing to worry about, these people are crackpots and that's the last you ever heard of it. Now that's becoming more difficult to do because of the internet. And so there's no shortage of indications as to how, how much Satan is controlling things through the occult and through humans interacting with the occult. So, and if you want to, you know, just like we talk about on this channel about how, you know, these supposed extraterrestrials always have like an anti-Christ message or one that denies the divinity of Christ or seeks to demote Christ. It was interesting that there've been multiple videos on this. People, and these aren't even AIs, I don't think, like Siri and Alexa. They'll ask them like, oh, Siri, who is Muhammad or who is Buddha? And it'll give like this whole like respectful answer and that acknowledges everything that their respective followers believe about him.

52:07 And they ask, who is Jesus Christ? And then it's, oh, he's claimed to be this or he's claimed to be, it's a very different way that they, everybody treats Jesus. And that's what I think we're going to start seeing with this AI, especially if these AI Jesus or things, I don't even know how somebody could think this is a good idea, but, it's funny you mentioned the disrespect surrounding Jesus, because I had to go in and specifically find that one clip about AI Jesus, because I couldn't take it from the actual stream. It's just, it's nothing, but really like either disgusting stuff or silly stuff or stupid stuff. And then every like once in a blue moon, someone's like, Jesus, could you explain Psalm 51 to me? And then, you know, it's just back to all of this weird, nasty, stuff, which I mean, I'm not saying they wouldn't do it to a Muhammad AI either, but there is definitely a disrespect that's, that's centered around Jesus for sure. Let's conclude the article real quick so we can get this, this territory. So I got some, I got some fun in store. Great. Yeah. I can be able to see that. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe not where tech and spirituality converge.

53:26 I can read it if you want so that I can, I can read it. I can. You read this one first, please. I'll turn the chat on so you guys can chat over chat over me, but I can see it before that. If text with Jesus is any indication, the convergence of technology and spirituality is only in its infancy. The future might see virtual reality churches, services, AI generated sermons, tailored to individual beliefs or augmented reality. Bible studies offering immersive experiences of ancient, ancient stories. As this meddling continues, it's virtual to it's, it's vital to tread carefully, ensuring that the core tenants of faith are preserved amidst the dazzle of technology. Right.

54:16 And that, and that just kind of cuts at the heart of it. I included that in there because that was how the article concluded. And it's just so silly because I don't think we'd be having this issue if people were just consulting the Bible itself, rather than, rather than trying to go through AI and have AI conversation with biblical figures, especially Satan, strangely enough. But I think a long part of it is that the notion of church services and how it's supposed to go in general. And I think, you know, me personally, I enjoyed more of the conversation and that's what I kind of hone in on. As far as like, I can watch a sermon at any time. I listened to some, you know, while I work sometimes, or you know, that's kind of a one way, you know, communication. But if all you're doing is listening to a sermon every, every week, then that's not really what we're, you know, we're not going deep enough because we're supposed to be getting into God's word ourselves and having a personal relationship with him and then sharing what we're learning or our thoughts with others.

55:20 So we can get kind of a sanity check, you know, obviously under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, but just having somebody talk at you and tell you about God's, I mean, that's what Roman Catholicism did for how many hundreds of years. Like it's just, you were, you weren't even allowed to read the word for yourself. Just, just take what the priest said and he will tell you what God says. And that's, you know, even the Pharisees in Jesus day, that's what they got into. That's what he blasted them for because God gave them the law and they added all this other stuff to it and said, Hey, we're the, we're the religious leaders. Here's the one way conversation. This is what you should be doing. Um, and that's not what God wants for us. He wants an individual personal relationship where we are making an effort. To get to know him on his terms through his word. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. And it's a fellow shipping aspect too, of getting together with the like-minded believers.

56:11 Yeah. AI can't serve that role. It'll never be able to replace having a brother or sister in Christ. So you're sitting down and you're discussing theological matters with that. That's the, that's the, the important thing that they can't take away from us. Um, so all that said about AI, it was a little grim, but now we have something a little more fun and a little more uplifting as well. We have a member of our discord. His name is Jason and he was kind enough to share some AI generated artwork that he was working on. And he happens to like doing AI generated art based around biblical themes. And I thought that these were really cool. Uh, not able to showcase all of them, but I thought we'll go through two. 10 of these images and just, you know, put it on display and say, Hey, I think this could be a productive way of, uh, of having AI interact with our faith.

57:10 So when I start taking a look at these, the first one, now this one, he said is a Nicodemus specifically. Yeah. So he did, uh, so Nicodemus is there and he has a couple of different characters. We know Nicodemus is the one who came out and John three, spoke with Jesus at night. Jesus told them that you must be born again. And he was curious about that. How, how can a man be born again in his old age? Can he enter into his mother's womb a second time? So that that's Nicodemus. This is Caiaphas who said that it was better for one man to, uh, to die for the nation than for them all to suffer. Paraphrasing a little, but basically setting it down and saying, Jesus has got to go. We got to get rid of this guy.

58:01 This is, he said, queen Esther, which I was impressed that he generated one of Esther because that's a book that it kind of goes unread. I feel in the Christian community. Sometimes it's a great book. It has a lot of typology in it. If you're into typology, read the book of Esther tonight after tonight's broadcast, like seriously, it's not even that long of a read, uh, God it's curious because it's the one book where God is not mentioned directly, but you can see, see God moving indirectly, uh, behind the scenes and, and doing things to, to make, uh, things work. There's really no coincidences in Esther. So I thought that was a cool one. I think it's also interesting. Esther. I like how he added some, some things around her arms and stuff, even though that's, you don't see that pictured in the Bible, like revelation, you would see more jewelry, I guess, on the harlot than the, the pure woman. But I think it's interesting because if you think about it, if you ever, I've read this story a few times and I thought, why in the world, after, after the King's, uh, uh, queen decided she didn't want to go dance naked. Did queen Esther think it was, uh, yeah, you know, I think I'll become the, uh, the, uh, uh, the part of the, uh, the whole harem that the King has like, that's a good idea.

59:23 And so I, I, I think queen Esther is probably a good person. God works through her. God works through all of us regardless of our spiritual walk. But I also wonder just how, this is just me, just how close of a walk she was walking to. Anyway, I could go into the long sermon about that, but, um, no, that's fine. There's a, here's a queen who definitely wasn't walking with the Lord that he had generated. It's queen Jezebel. Okay. And she's, she's got very different from the, uh, how Jehovah's witnesses portrayed Jezebel. That's really tame, uh, compared to watchtower art. Yeah. I don't even, do I even want to know? So we'll have to get to the, my book of Bible stories. And this is a kid's book, mind you. And yeah, you'll, you'll get a kick out of that. So can you explain a little bit, or do you want to explain a little bit, uh, why you mentioned watchtower? Oh yeah. I used to, I grew up as a Jehovah's witness. So, okay.

1:00:11 Okay. I didn't, I didn't know if you wanted to say that discord. No, I don't know. Yeah. I haven't really talked about it on YouTube, but yeah, for 20 years, my life was spent in that. So, um, I, yeah, they have a very distinct art style and a lot of occult, a hidden occult stuff in that too, which I didn't find out much, much later, but I didn't know that. Oh yeah. Big on the skulls and the occult imagery and sexual imagery, just hidden, like with the real test where you put like a mirror down 90 degrees and yeah, it's, it's, there's a lot. I, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, we should, um, wow. We'll discuss this afterwards. It might have some interesting content. So anyway, uh, we'll move on rabbit trail, right? Well, here's the next image. It says a, uh, street side view of Jerusalem. It's kind of neat. Yeah.

1:01:04 I kind of captured that the bustling atmosphere, the sun peeking down. Uh, it's nice, you know, sometimes AI artwork can generate these interesting scenes. If you look too closely, you can see some of the faces are a little distorted and, uh, and stuff, but I, uh, I like that on a broad view of this, like it kind of captures that a busy day in Jerusalem, which we know it was a very populous city. And if we take a look at the next image here, so we have to look forward to, it's a, it's a new Jerusalem. So he said, this is like the temple courts that would be there. And you can see a bunch of, uh, beings in white. It looks like down around the bottom, we have them singing songs of praise and it's just beautiful brightness there. Uh, no need for the sun in this, in this city. It's very bright. Here's the new earth. He said, so this is going to be like a potential city on the new earth. This is like some of the architecture. Maybe you could anticipate seeing, but it looks very clean.

1:02:02 And I, I like this one because of the way it incorporates nature into, uh, the structure. So I thought that was really cool. How, uh, it's not like intruding on the landscape necessarily. Beautiful mountain in the back. I wonder if there's going to be jagged protruding rocks, the new earth though. I am tend to think it's going to be perfect. And these rolling Hills. Anyway, I don't know how that's not perfect, but you're going to get there. Cause yeah, Eric likes mountains. I like mountains. I, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, we'll see. Can we say, we'll see, we're saying, we're saying, we'll say this is cool. So, uh, this is Daniel. Once we have the chat go away, there we go. Daniel right down here is envisioned. And he's seeing the wing, the lion representative of Babylon.

1:02:53 This is a, this was actually my favorite because whenever you see, uh, visions and prophecy in the Bible, it has this really interesting symbolism and I get these bold images in my head. And this is something, uh, that, that I would imagine when reading through the passages and, uh, seventh chapter of Daniel. So the, this is, uh, this is a really nice one. I like this one. A lot. I told Jason he should do a series and he should do each one of the beasts, but this one is, is excellent. We got, uh, here is one of Jesus strolling on the water and, uh, yeah, I like, I did this. That's amazing. Hey, I, yeah, yeah. I mean, he works with it. I don't think it just, uh, yeah, it's like a one off thing. He's got to manipulate and say what, what he wants. But yeah, the, the AI generated, I mean, this image wouldn't be here if he wasn't able to, to utilize it and produce something like this.

1:03:51 This is really cool. I, I especially like the way the, uh, the water is kind of working its way around the, the base of Jesus. It's almost like holding him as he's walking. You know, I just love, um, there's be still. My soul is like, what was a really excellent him. And it's like the waves and winds still know, uh, it talks about like them knowing Jesus. And I just think it's so cool that the, like all of creation is his, and there is this intimate connection with, with Jesus. It's just really nice. And then this is the final one that we have from Jason here. And it's the Ascension and Jesus is up. He's above the clouds at this point out of view of the apostles. And he is going and, uh, you can just see glorious son there with the son of God himself.

1:04:41 So beautiful stuff. Thank you very much, Jason, for allowing me to share this on air. And for sharing it with us in the discord, it was really, really cool. So I, we appreciate that something uplifting. You have another clip in here though. Yeah, I do. I do. I have a final clip. This is a little, uh, this clip is a little bit different. I'll say that it's, I found this funny. So one of the things that people are using AI for is they're generating memes with it. And sometimes the memes can be pretty ridiculous and silly, but, but I saw this one and I shared it with the group, uh, on the discord because it's, it's spacey. It has like a spacey theme. And I just immediately thought, Oh, like strange, normal. This is great.

1:05:28 So roll that back and enjoy this. Yeah. Okay. It'll be fun. What if the universe baked a cookie and send it hurtling through the cosmos? What, what if that cookie turned into a symphony of shooting stars, lighting up our world? And what if those stars turned into your favorite treat falling like sweet snowflakes? This is a Nestle's commercial. What if each bite could hold a universe of flavors? What if we told you, this isn't just a dream or, yeah. Oh my goodness.

1:06:19 There it is. I thought, where is this going? Wow. Okay. That is all generated by AI to like all of the images you see and the script. So it's like when, when asked to produce this commercial, AI is just like, Hmm, like, well, what can I give them? Go ahead, Eric. No, I just said, what if, Oh, what if, yeah, it all starts, but yeah, what if, and I think that is the, the name of the series. There's a lot of those, but it's like, what if AI made an Oreo commercial and that's the result. So it's very fun. I want to hear from the chat. What do they do? It was interesting tonight. Yeah. What do you think? What do you think? What was the, the most fascinating thing about the topics tonight? We got, we got a little more time here. We can just, just read a little bit of the chat.

1:07:19 Yeah. I'd be happy to. Yeah. Rocky says AI never gets fingers, right? It reminds me of those middle, the middle age, dark ages, like tapestries or stuff like that, where it's, they didn't have proportions down directly. So the fingers are always off. It'll get there though. And wait, wait till it does. Yeah. No, I've seen some decent AI hands before, but most of them are off. That's, that's the weird thing about this is, this is just like, this is, I don't know what model they were using or what program, but they have like, there's AI influencers now, or you can't tell the difference, or it's very difficult to tell the difference between that. And they're full body shots. Like, and it looks like a real person mostly. So, yeah, I think those are like, usually based off of an actual person. Like they'll take an image and they'll just use that person as like a template.

1:08:20 And they'll, then AI will graft on like the different features to them. I don't know if it's like a hundred percent, like I don't create it out of nothing, but I mean, it is impressive. It will deceive you very, very easily. I saw a chat from old, old Klaus. Here said Ted talks, Harvard professor Juan Enriquez is obsessed with pushing modified human evolution. He wants to merge humans with not only computers, but other species that we currently have on Earth. I've seen stuff like that. And it's chimeras is the scientific name of that. When you splice the DNA together, because the first time I had actually heard of it was maybe over a decade ago, but they were talking about how, like lizards have those little suction E fingers and they were just like, it was some weird, like science, you know, like on sci-fi channel or whatever.

1:09:21 They're like one day, like we'll have our genes modified so that our fingertips are like that of a, a lizard and we'll be climbing up skyscrapers and they'll be washing your windows like that. I was like, Oh, this is weird. This is creepy. This is like, why are they framing? Yeah, that's what we're going to do. They use this advanced technology for us to make window washers. Yeah, exactly. It's the goal. Have you seen the toes of a lizard though? They can climb walls that they're geckos. Yeah. The geckos, they're like the size of like a quarter of their face. Can you imagine her? Her fingers were the size of a quarter of her face. Well, it's, it's like the ribbing on them. And when you, somebody tried to make a, well, they've actually made it where it's like a technological way, a mechanical way to do it. It's not nearly as efficient or compact, but it's the ridges on there. Like we have finger.

1:10:08 Well, that's the reason we're able to pick up anything, by the way, is because we have finger, which is the difference. If we didn't have that, we, everything would just slip. But so it's like that, except on steroids. And when they push a certain way, it, it flattens these ribs out and then it increases the surface area. And it's like a, I think it's the London forces between electrons that like, I'm trying to remember here, but like, and then when they pull it the other way, it kind of like releases it. So that's what they're doing. It's not, it's not a sticky substance at all. It's just electro electrical, like, I think it's almost like static. I'm trying to remember my chemistry, but like it's, it's been a while. I just remember going to Indonesia and seeing these geckos that were like two feet long. I can't even see it in here. They were like, they were humongous and they, they ended up and out there. It's so tropical.

1:10:59 You don't really need AC or heat. So they just had that windows open all the time, man, go into the bathroom and seeing a two foot lizard by your toilet and in your shower. It's like, nah, nah, dude, I don't want that. Or midnight. They were, they clicking. Yeah, it wasn't just clicking. It was like, oh, and they were, they were loud. So I'm not going to do that again. Forget that. Yeah, I'm good. So what did you got to go to the bathroom with a stick? Fight that thing off. Yeah, I mean, this is, this is a little off topic, but that's why we're here for this segment. I did see someone who had an issue where rats kept getting into their house. and the people were like they had different exterminators coming in and finally this guy said you know i've seen something like this before we've sealed everything it can really only be one thing and he dug up in their driveway and he said here's your plumbing and they're they've they've got a hole in your plumbing and they're coming up through your toilet oh my goodness oh i've seen that words oh man i'll be honest and i'm sorry for everyone in the chat and everyone who's watching but i've been a little nervous going to the bathroom for the past couple of weeks when i'm on there i'm thinking no rats today no rats today the plumbing is good well you know what's weird is that's actually been like a theme of like a lot of horror movies and shows is like animals just swarming and coming in because if you think about it like on the ship there's there's all of the fittings have like you can close them all so you can basically make the whole ship watertight and airtight but in your house i mean or i thought about it driving in your car like a to me a swarm of anything is scarier than any one something like i would rather a like a bear face a bear than like a swarm of i don't know asian giant hornets or something like that you know some great something crazy it's just because you can't deal with it's just and there's something about that like there's a black mirror episodes where they have these artificial bees and they end up like going after people and it's like you can't how do you defend against that you're going to block every vent in you know in your house or every every pipe no we just don't think about that so anyways that's a right kind of dark tangent but yeah as a contractor or not i'm not a contractor but i flip houses i i'm looking at the system right now i'm thinking there's no way they should be able to get in there it's all closed off uh your septic system even if it goes to the city it should be all closed off but if there's a hole in it yeah you know never know what's going to happen but it's all closed off so it's all closed off you're going to find i've seen squirrels like have you seen these reels squirrels coming up through this thing snakes coming up to the toilet i kid you not when i was in college which was in this area um a friend of my suite mate because you know the the college had uh rooms and they're attached with a with a bathroom and a shower and my suite mate apparently was in there and he came running out of there so fast he he says i don't know what's going on but you know i was sitting down and all of a sudden air bubbles came up you know how surprising that would be but um yeah no i'm out of there as soon as that happens we had in the chat we had aj asked uh how long can a rat be underwater a rat can uh hold his breath underwater for up to three minutes so that's plenty of time i mean just based off of that where the plumbing was that they were getting in the toilet obviously that's that that was possible for them uh lisa again she's she says uh during the early 1980s all of the horror movies were about either animals or insects getting loose from a lab and spreading out and killing people yeah it's uh

1:14:53 i think that's kind of been around since the big uh one was alfred hitchcock did the birds that was where the birds turn aggressive out of nowhere and that was kind of the first one and that's that's the situation like you were saying eric because they just gonna they're really like you could fight off a couple birds but eventually they're gonna get you and did it end did it end with snakes on a plane i hope no it doesn't end bradley it's still going somewhere i remember bats i don't know if anybody's ever in the chat has ever saw bats i mean i don't recommend it and it's just it's like it's not even a c movie but yeah it's that type of uh wendy wendy says goes to show how the enemy will take anything good and corrupt it animals uh but she specifically says ai can be a great tool but sadly in this world it's going to be used for much more evil than good my two cents yeah absolutely yeah i i agree i think in the end it'll it'll really come to bite us in some form or fashion we'll we'll reap some benefits from it for a while but in the end that's people have postulated i think even that maybe a rogue ai is what they'll show the uh well the demonic entities that are going to be posing as aliens are going to come and save us from ai i think that's possible totally possible they'll be saving us from uh a threat that we created or the just the threat that we pose ourselves it's gonna it's gonna be something along the lines of that and ai i mean it could fit the bill because you have to think about it in terms of okay antichrist like we know that antichrist can mean against christ and it also means in the place of christ but i believe the majority of the world runs with this idea that antichrist is just it's the opposite of christ so a rogue ai i mean that's kind of just about as opposite of christ as you can get it's not like a real life form it's certainly not benevolent and it's not trying to heal you or do anything so maybe they show up and they take that out and they say oh yeah the antichrist it was it was uh artificial intelligence rogue artificial i don't know we'll find out i think it's i think it's important to remember that literally everything in this world is exists to further the great deception it's and ultimately fulfill bible prophecy and i think we're you know when we say all the stops are going to be pulled out i don't think there's going to be any lever that satan is not trying to pull to achieve his goals by the time we get to when christ returns so think of all the technology we have now and whatever technology is going to be discovered and we're going to be able to pull it out and we're going to be able to try and break it and then you're going to see that it's not something that's always going to be offered or invented or provided by demons between now and then and that's what satan is going to use so you know absolutely and and people have a tendency just like we overlooked we all did this most of us in the chat are old enough to remember the time before the internet um and we all just when a free email came out everybody you know it reminds me of lord of the rings actually let's start a lord of the rings like really they get offered these rings and they just and the men they just took it away forever right and i think you can look at it crookedly and say man you're such a fucking boi right now you're such a piece of shit so you can't even look at it totally you can't even think about it totally And the men, they just took them without question. And one by one, they fell. It's like, we just took all this technology free. Hey, it's free email.

1:18:16 It's just free service. It's just so convenient. Just take it without question. Now look where we are with what they're doing with our data and now AI. So Satan and Satan's been watching and he knows how to, he knows that it was successful. He knows how to manipulate us. So, yeah. So I think it's interesting that not only will AI, I believe, be used in this life. Now follow me here. I believe it's going to be used after God returns again for the third time. Now listen to me. Listen to me here. Follow me on what I'm saying here. Let's go to Revelation 20. Oh my, whoa. We're going. We're going here. Watch this. Who's this crackpot? So go to Revelation 20. Let's start in verse 6. Blessed and holy is he. That hath part in the first resurrection.

1:19:05 On such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, so we're with God for a thousand years, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth. Gog and Magog. To gather them together to battle. The number of whom is the sand of the sea. So the majority of the people are lost, basically. So he gathers these people together, the sand of the sea. So what happens when he gathers all these people? And they went up on the breadth of the earth and they encompassed the camp of the saints. So God has come back to the earth, right? Now he was, they left, came back after the thousand years was over. They went up in the breadth of the earth and encompassed the camp of saints about and the beloved city and fire came down on God of heaven and devoured them.

1:20:11 So what's going on here? There is a great battle that Satan tries to get them to battle Christ one last time for a season. Do you think that this battle is just going to be with fists? That they're going to come across this city made of these amazing minerals? I mean, imagine a city with... Pearly gates. It's probably going to have walls of diamond. I mean, just beautiful. And they're going to come and use their flesh fists or whatever they're risen with to try to fight this city. I don't think so. Now, this is my surmising, but I believe they're going to use every single power that they have and they're going to be like, we can take this city. We got all the knowledge of all the past warriors, great warriors, Hitler. I mean, I'm not saying maybe I'm pretty sure he's going to... I'm not going to make it now, but I... Hitler was actually pretty stupid. Yeah, he was not a good general. I would go for Napoleon maybe or...

1:21:09 I was going to say Napoleon. I was thinking Napoleon too. But not only that, I imagine he's going to have... People that have very huge knowledge, like all these anti-Diluvians that maybe didn't make it, they're going to have great knowledge and be loosed for a season. Perhaps they'll make something better and bigger than nuclear weapons. Now, follow me on this point. I don't think I'm going too far off base. It's by rabbit trailing on this. But if you have those great minds, they think they can take the city. What happens to children when they don't get their way? Well, they destroy it, right? Ah, if you can't have it, nobody can. Ah, right? I think that's going to be what Satan wants in the end. I'll just destroy you and everything with it and everything. So they wanted to have one last battle with God. Ultimately, it doesn't work.

1:22:01 And hell breaks loose, basically. I don't say that with... Well, if you listen to some of the stories about people who are like the deep underground military bases, which that's definitely a strange, normal topic. People who said they've worked with extraterrestrials in these. And if they're to be believed, and obviously, we know demons lie and take it with a grain of salt. But one of the stories out there is that they are working with human governments to create advanced weaponry to fight. An extraterrestrial threat to fight against God. So, yeah, we don't know exactly the timeline, how time even works out before God created time. I don't know. I'm not going to try to wrap my head around that one. But, you know, there was a time before humans and Earth existed that, you know, angelic beings existed.

1:22:51 And so they saw a lot of things getting created. And a lot of people with these deep occult connections are the ones who've made breakthroughs, air quotes. Great discoveries in science, which I believe, personally, have mostly been from demonic influence or being given to them by these fallen angels. So they know things and how to manipulate. Because what is technology? It's just a means of manipulating the laws of nature to do what we want it to do. So in a predictable fashion. And so if they have a better understanding of the fundamental laws of physics, for instance, then they could create technology. And if they have a better understanding of the fundamental laws of physics, then they could create technology to manipulate it better than we can. That makes sense to me. Anyways. Fascinating. Lisa Milner says, Colonel Presley said that's why Space Force was created. I'm not familiar with Colonel Presley, but that sounds like an interesting thing to get into on a future show.

1:23:47 Yeah. Well, Space Force in general, that it was raised up and everyone followed suit. All the nations. I mean, people laugh at the USA because it's like, oh, Space Force, ha ha ha. But if you look, all of the major countries on Earth, they've formed Space Forces, their own versions of it. Interesting. Really? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. For sure, man. Check it out. They're all getting ready for something. An external threat is going to come. It's so ridiculous, isn't it? When you think about trying to fight God, it's really pathetic. I can't even imagine. I mean, you're talking about when they try to compass the camp of the saints. But I'm wondering, even on that great day when Jesus returns, I think they'll have some type of weapon systems on alert.

1:24:44 It's going to be pathetic. Fire missiles, shoot lasers, do whatever you're going to do. Nothing is going to stop God from doing what he's going to do. The arrogance is just simply mind blowing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it kind of goes to show how even maybe then humans, our tendency to focus on what we can see. And what we can see is the physical, tangible things. And we forget that God literally created reality. I think of it in the programming analogy. If I'm playing a game and say the beings or the people being simulated in the game developed sentience and made some kind of nuclear weapon in the game world. That is like powerful for them, poses absolutely zero threat to me because their world is generated by information that I control.

1:25:39 And that's actually a theory emerging in theoretical physics is that space time is not fundamental. It's information. And that's a whole. I mean, so this idea that whatever technology we come up with, it's still based on the rules which govern matter, which God set into place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the way maybe we can think about it is that God could turn the charge of every electron in existence from negative or negative to positive instantaneously. And what happens? Every single atom in existence flies apart at the speed of light. No more anything because positive proton, positive neutron. He could do that. Or just like, I like the word un-make. We have this, you guys have heard of the butterfly effect. So as I'm waving my hair through the, or my hand through the room, it's moving.

1:26:29 the air molecules and theoretically or like if you took a piece of paper and ripped it up with writing on it and ripped it up put it in a blender and blended it theoretically with enough computing power you could you take the the position of all those atoms and rewind it and get that information back god could do that we can't do that but god could literally make unmake something so that not only are they don't exist anymore but all the effects that they have had through time don't exist anymore either like it's just you can it just bakes your noodle my noodle anyway with thinking about this stuff because it's just and like you're right matthew it's just like and the thing that gets me is satan knows this better than we do and all the fallen angels they have seen god face to face so we can only imagine it they have seen it and yet they still yeah that's well it's the mystery of iniquity so i don't i mean yeah yeah yeah i do i like that uh i keep that concept in mind too as you were saying the the unmaking and the fact that god does have this power to restore and he has the power to to remove sin from us specifically because when he has those promises where it's like you shall be his virgins it's like wow okay so zero sin at all or um i think it's in micah chapter seven just give me one minute i'd love to share that scripture it's towards the end of micah let's see no i'm sorry i'm not turning off my ad blocker who is a god like unto thee that pardoneth iniquity and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage he retaineth not his anger forever because he delighteth in mercy he will turn again he will have compassion on us he will subdue our iniquities and thou will cast all their sins into the depths of the sea and i i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i've talked to eric about this because we we served on a ship and uh when something goes overboard uh on a ship you're not getting it back all right when it gets cast into the depths of the sea that's the last time you you saw you saw that thing okay a hundred percent so when when god gives us these reassurances in his word we just get to latch on and take heart when we read something like that just think you know the next time you're really repentant and you have this terrible you've done something wrong you know that you've transgressed against god and you have the moment you you pray you repent maybe you make amends with someone that uh you need to make amends with and even if you're feeling a little like pang of guilt afterwards just remember a verse like that at the end of micah 7 that was micah 7 uh 18 19 he delights in mercy and he is just waiting to take all of your sin and iniquity and your sin and your sin and your sin and your and just they're gone they're gone forever you don't have to worry about that he's not worried about it so why should we be worried about it yeah absolute absolute i think um i think eric just blew up the chat everyone wants to hear about your uh your escapades on the ship oh no that's another night the old the old uh haunted vessel the ghost ship that that we were a part of i will say this to wet the palette uh of the audience there yeah there was a lot of bad things that happened on our ship and we ended up having certain uh like psychologists come on board and chaplains come on board uh and you were encouraged to go and talk to these people whether it seemed like you had a mental health problem or not you go and talk to them so i went and i talked to them and i remember just talking to one of the therapists this is not even a chaplain and i said yeah i get this really weird feeling that this ship is cursed that there's like something really bad here uh that there's some negative evil force on board with us and i was just like i mean i know that sounds crazy and i probably sound crazy but i just that's how i feel and he just shook his head he's like no many of your shipmates have expressed that same concern to me i'm just like what nonchalant get me off yeah i was this ship i was sitting next to one of the uh i think he was an fc um i forget his name even he was blind you know him he was uh anyways we were i was sitting in medical in yakuska and somehow he like uh sat down next to me and out of the blue i just said like hey man do you think the ship is cursed without missing a b or zero hesitation whatsoever yep like not the answer i was expecting i was expecting

1:31:23 like a little no it was just immediate i have no idea what his personal beliefs were if he was christian atheist whatever but yeah there was definitely a spirit on board that ship and it wasn't good it wasn't the spirit of god like you said yeah no yeah that was not but anyways that will have to wait yeah yes we'll address that on another uh fun rabbit trails or uh after show whatever we're calling this thing this was fun thank you so much this should be strange sno although it's a live show on sunday too also so i mean i don't know but that's my vote i like it yeah that that is fun we do have uh we have some ideas in the discord that we drew from and i think we'll be making a community poll sometime soon and uh we'll hear from you all but we'll include some of the finalists in that poll and we'll have a formal name formal branding for this show and we'll continue with it i hope that everybody enjoyed it uh it's a chance to be a little off beat and you know we'll see you next time bye you know discuss things that are not always uh uap so if you have any other suggestions for topics please leave them in the comments section below if you have anything about ai leave it in the comments section below this probably won't be the last time that we talk about this topic so yeah any contributions greatly appreciate it but uh thank you for for the opportunity to come on and talk to you about some of this stuff we had a we had a blast with it and i hope you did too uh we conclude though i want to tell people about the different uh channels they call them channels groups areas that we have in the discord um of course fellowship general uh chat are among them but we talk about the we have hearings section for the government uh the meetup section topic ideas for the channel that people contribute to we have uh things sent to me people send stuff so many things to me i just drop them into this area so that we can look at them uh all together because i don't get to watch them all um weekly show planning kind of tells what's going to happen throughout the week uh design and production is part of the part of this uh this uh part of the you know designing the channel product propaganda tv we talk a lot about film and music and how that's affecting the the society as a whole uh social media the phenomenon ufo cults and religions um subculture and the occult the whole section on that aliens uap uh starfall 2 movie data that's going to happen we're just finding out when uh bit of off topic people talk about all kinds of stuff in there disclosure articles testimonies from uh subscribers uh earthling tech uh things to fact check good points to for shorts and uh section that um that um mrs boris is heading up uh it's called uh starfall 2 movie data and that's going to happen on this day and she tells us what's happening on this day in the ufo history um artificial intelligence this is the channel we took from today and uh we we drop things in the tvis channel the science channel and the natural disasters channel we got so much happening here and that's just a only one section and so if you want to become a part of the discord and contribute and uh to the channel even come on the channel sometime join us go to patreon.com strange normal and join us in the discord we'd love to have you and one more thing before we go aj i do see that super chat he's saying thanks for the content guys have a great night a little salute and a thumbs up well a salute to you my friend yeah eric you want to throw up a salute how long has it been yeah my saluting days are kind of done bring it to the brow my friend let's see let's see that slight angle i don't want to see your palm is that what they say oh yeah it's down you got to get it down to a science no yeah it has you know i never understood what that was for i've heard it has something to do with like winning a wars i don't know like slight yeah like we're not going to show you the army salutes indoors matthew you should know that yeah i also i don't have uh my i wish i had my cover so i could really cover oh man no don't bring the it's a flood of bad memories and the program brad you brought this you brought this on yourself you brought this on yourself you brought this on yourself you brought this on yourself no no more all right all right all right my dogs want to go out there my huskies are coming up to me saying why are we still in here so uh we gotta end who wants to uh end it with prayer i can't if no one does i'll do it go for it here we go father god thank you for so much for giving us time to go

1:36:16 over these interesting topics that are happening right now and and uh kind of view them through the lens of the bible and understand what's going on in our lives and uh and bless everybody that's listening to this guide and direct us and help us to make it there someday soon and bring many people with us to you in jesus name we pray amen amen amen all right guys have a good night and we'll see you next time all right and we are clear