0:02 Good evening, everybody. It's another strange night for Strange Normal. I almost didn't make it tonight because I had a plumbing problem. We're up there. We're working on the new studio up the top of the hill. And man, oh man, I almost said, you know what, that can't make it. But fortunately, we have a pre-recording tonight of an interview I did with a guy named Andrew Jones. He's continuing Ron Wyatt's legacy and looking for different things that are over there and across the pond. And we're going to talk all about that tonight. But before we do, I got some things to tell you. We got some interesting stuff coming up. So make sure you hit that subscribe button, hit that little bell icon, because you're going to want to stick around to know more about what's next. See you soon.
0:57 The system is totally rigged and broken. The evil spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet. It is now 89 seconds to midnight. This is the closest the world has ever been. I still think these are what people call angels. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. Pretty severe suffering brings them. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. Welcome to Strange Normal.
2:47 My name is Bradley. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And there's a lot going on. So make sure you hit that subscribe button, hit that little bell icon to show us that you like us, to show us that you are listening. Because the more that you hit that like button, the more it reaches out and grabs more people that haven't heard this stuff. And that's the easiest thing you can do to help us out here. Hit that like button. Let us know a comment. We read every one. Why are my hands dirty? Well, I have sealant on my hands because I was putting in, some of the toiletries and bathtub and all this other stuff that was over in the other place. And man, oh man, what a leak. We had quite a trouble over there and I just could not get away. And I literally walked into here, 10 minutes, I'm hitting buttons, turning everything on, trying to get everything. See, see, it's the, if I touch it the wrong way, this light flickers.
3:42 You don't care. But this is, this is interesting to me because we are actually going to do a show tonight, regardless of how, how clean my hands are. But I do want to tell you that there has been an immense amount of work done. And I want to, I'm excited to be getting over there here pretty soon and actually doing some live interviews. Tonight's episode is a pre-recording, but it's a very good, interesting pre-recording because it's, it's, I reached out after, after that whole issue with the government, having a CIA file, talking about the Ark of the Covenant and how they were looking through it through a remote view. It's, it's, I reached out after, after that whole issue with the government having a CIA file, talking about the Ark of the Covenant and how they were looking through it through a remote view. It's, it's, I reached out after, after that whole issue with the government having a CIA file, doing, I was like, okay, let's reach out to somebody I know that's over there that does tours over there and see what he thinks about this. And I want to get his understanding of it. I think we put this story to bed tonight. We're going to really dig in deep and understand what is it actually saying?
4:36 Is it different than what the Bible says? And what can we learn from it through biblical principles? His name is Andrew Jones, and he's a very close friend of mine. And I actually lived, I lived with him before I got married and at his house. And he and I were both IT guys at the time, computer programmers, information systems, all this stuff. And he decided to go out and to do archaeology. I decided to do real estate. You know, it's, it's interesting how life works sometimes. But as the whole story behind that, I'll spare you the details. But the long story, short story is, he got very, very, very deeply involved. With some of the Ron Wyatt group and whatever you believe about them, it's, it's, it doesn't matter right now because it's still interesting because he's, he's grabbed a lot of knowledge from just being over there, knowing where things are.
5:31 And he, we're going to show you in Google Maps tonight. We're going to show you in a lot of different actual areas that happened, along with some very interesting stories about him being a very popular person to go to now over there. If he, if you want to go there. If you want to know things. And I mean, big, well-known people have come to him in many different churches and in many different kingdoms, just wanting to know more about what he knows about the area and digging, looking for Noah's Ark, looking for the Ark of the Covenant and all this other stuff. Very, very interesting stuff and neat to be able to contact him. So we're going to, we're going to dig into that. But I want to say, if you, if you're interested in this stuff, join us on Patreon. Patreon.com. That's the bread and butter of this show. We really appreciate that.
6:23 That's how we continue. Another part of that is also, I'm a real estate agent and I want to help you find something and I can get your agent in your local area to pay me if you find something through me. But you have to contact me first and let me talk to your agent or let me talk to someone and give you something in the area that, that, that will work with you. And if that's, if that's something you want to help me out with, I appreciate that because that will help continue bringing me to you. And if that's something you want to help me out with, I appreciate that because that will help continue bringing people out here, especially as we, we expand, which we're trying to do right now and do more live interviews that would be more interesting for you and bring more people out and that be able and able to pay for some of those bigger people to come out and ask them some of the serious, more serious questions for hours and hours and hours instead of just the short hour or an hour and a half that I have with them. All right. Enough gab, Brad. Let's get in with it. Get in with it. So one more thing to t-shirts. We've got free t-shirts for you. If you're going to the generous general conference session coming up on July three through something, if you want one of those, the link is going to be in the first comment below.
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10:03 Now, um, I got an email that came in and it was from a, a well-known, uh, Jewish, uh, rabbi, and he was looking for the arc of the covenant. They're not allowed in certain spots because, uh, if it's holy, then they're not supposed to be. Yeah. In certain spots. So they had to ask about Gentile. And so he's looking, I'm looking for equipment that would get, I could hide on my clothing that I could go into this off limits area to see if the arc is hiding there. Andrew, I, so this is the first time I've seen you in years. I mean, this is really neat to have you back on the, uh, actually face to face because we, we used to be before I got married. You were the, my, my last roommate, basically you've gone over to, to Cairo and tell us why. Okay. How are you over there? What's going on and what is your profession now? Yeah. Good to see you too. Um, and so, well, I'm here in Cairo because I got interested in archeology at a young age.
11:02 Um, but when COVID hit, I ended up staying overseas. I was doing many trips back and forth between America and the middle East. And then that led into doing tours because everyone started asking me questions like, Hey, is there a way you could take us along on your trips? And I wasn't even thinking about it. And then they wanted to bring their friends. And so I'd said, okay, we got to turn this into something more than just a casual meetup. And so then that's when I started offering tours, but then COVID hit and I'm looking at everything. A friend of mine in Turkey at the time, he said I could stay there and he had built actually a little studio apartment for me. And, um, and I looked at the cost of living in Turkey versus California. It was a perfect fit for me. It was close. It was, yeah, it was. It was my base for doing research. Um, and then, uh, I do tours also too, across the middle East. So right now I'm in Cairo.
11:54 I don't have a tour group right now, but I'm doing some research on the Exodus. And so right before this, I was in Israel, the Jordan, yeah, this back and forth all over the place. So, so you've, you've toured, I mean, not just, you know, you don't go, just go around the city and say, by the way, this is a pyramid you've, you've taken people. And maybe I shouldn't mention this, but you've taken people all the way up to the top of this burnt. Mountain. Can you talk a little bit about that? Ah, yes. Uh, so one of the, uh, I guess most popular trips is the, uh, Sinai and Arabia tour we do. And that's also one of my most favorite places to do research. And I love the deserts peaceful out there. You just got the camels and Bedouins and, um, yeah. So if you go to our website, discovered Sinai.com or our YouTube channel, uh, discovered media, uh, you can find out information about our trips, but, uh, yeah, um, I've been on top of that mountain.
12:46 Um, I've been on top of that mountain. Um, 20, some times now, uh, at the very top, uh, at least 10 times, but, uh, yeah, I really believe that is the real Mount Sinai and there's a lot of evidence for that, but yeah, I know that's another topic, but, uh, yeah, I do take tours out to Saudi Arabia. That's crazy. Wow. So, so you, and right now you're working on, uh, not only discovered media, but you have the arc thing. That's part of the whole thing too. You're finding Noah's arc. Yeah. So, you know, there is a site out there that was discovered. The Turkish government in 1959, it's called the Durupanar boat formation or arc site, and the Turkish government built a visitor center above it. So we now help manage that. Uh, we're also teamed up with different Turkish professors in promoting the site and also doing more research than what was done in the past. So for example, in 2019, we organized, uh, the latest GPR.
13:41 We brought an outside people from actually across the U S experts and, um, they did a radar. Ground penetrating radar. That's what GPR is. And that could peer below the surface. Uh, last year we've, uh, helped a local scientist do soil testing, comparing the soil inside the boat formation to outside it. So we really got some interesting results. We hope to publish later in the year, but, uh, yeah, so the, the Noah's arc site, uh, in Turkey, uh, you know, we're doing the research. Um, we believe it's Noah's arc. It's not a salvational issue. So if you think it's up on the big mountain or someplace else. That's fine, but this is to us the best candidate and we can, you know, actually walk on it and research it. And so I I'm half the year in Turkey and then half the year and the rest of the middle East that's using my schedule. So when it gets cold and snowy, uh, the arc site, you can't do much there.
14:32 I had South and, uh, I love, uh, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, these countries where the, you know, most of the Bible stories happened in this area of the world. So it's very special. I love being here. Yeah. I've often. I've often thought about coming out and doing your tour, because I think that's really neat to actually go over there and do that. We might have to talk about that sometime, but, um, yes, come see us here. Absolutely. What is your, what you have a YouTube channel as well. It's a, it has over 200,000 subscribers. If I remember, right. What, what, what is your YouTube channel? We're up to a 360, almost 70. Actually, I just checked this morning. Uh, yeah. Uh, it's discovered media and that just covers everything. I don't know why I just came up with the name and thought, okay. I'll put everything under this. Um, I used to own the domain. Oh, I still own the domain name, discovered.net.org.
15:23 And so, uh, later on, I started making YouTube videos on my travels and the research. I just put it under there. And, um, we had about a year ago. Uh, we hit, it was actually, uh, 2023. I brought out a pastor. Um, uh, what's his name? Jim Scudder Jr. He has a mega church in Chicago, uh, evangelical pastor. He's on TBN. And he, uh, wanted to film Mount Sinai Arabia. So he brought his whole film crew and some donors of his and his family. And we filmed that when I put it up November 23, it suddenly went viral. And, uh, you know, they gave me permission to put it up and, uh, within a couple months, I hit a hundred thousand, you know, so by March of last year, it was, uh, we hit a hundred thousand. And then from March until now, now we're, you know, three times as big and, uh, some other videos went viral, but yeah.
16:15 So it's, it's been fun. I didn't expect, uh, it to gain momentum like that and just, you know, like a side project, just people want to see what we're doing. And so, yeah, I, I, sometimes I put a lot of videos out and other times, you know, I, I get lazy, but, you know, it takes a lot of effort to make videos or come up with content. I've been trying to do shorts and stuff like that and I'm nowhere on Tik TOK, but, you know, um, we had a Tik TOK, uh, guy from Miami, uh, uh, Hispanic gentleman who just became saved. And he wanted to. See these sites, you heard about on the internet. So he came out to Saudi Arabia last year, him and his wife, and he has one arm because of a motorcycle accident. And he has over 2 million Tik TOK, uh, subscribers and he followers, whatever you call them. And so he climbed the mountain with one arm, him and his wife. And, um, and so he made all these short videos and he, he told me his whole system and what was amazing. Cause it looked, uh, six months later, he said he had 300 million views of just his videos about Mount Sinai and all of this stuff.
17:16 And so he wanted to come back, and he came back last September to Noah's Ark, and now he wants to do it again, to do the whole Exodus route. So, you know, we help others too, and we have pastors always contacting us, ministries, news organizations. They want our footage or videos, and most of the time it's gift-free, and I do the interviews. This last year, Noah's Ark was in the news a lot last year, I mean last week, and we had Daily Mail. I just did an interview online with The Sun from Britain, and one of our colleagues did an interview with Morning Show in Australia. They wanted, you know, everyone's interested in the Ark. This was Noah's Ark, and it hits the news, you know, maybe once a year. But then right after that, the Ark of the Covenant hit the news. We got both Arks now in the news. That's interesting timing. It is. It really is.
18:08 So much is happening right now, and that's why we started talking. We send articles to each other over Facebook. Facebook Messenger every once in a while, sometimes email. And one of the things that came across was this Ark thing, because the U.S. government seems to be going through this phase of disclosure and getting all the secrets out and all this stuff Trump has been really pushing for this idea. And one of the bundles that came out was a bunch of CIA documents from the 80s. And so you had sent me, or we had communicated, I forget how it happened, but we were talking about this thing, how the government... Was doing some strange stuff to try to find the Ark of the Covenant. And so I dug into this a little bit, and I wanted to bring you on as the expert, because you know more about and have studied this stuff. I mean, as far as anybody I know, you're actually over there and actually looking into this stuff. You've been involved with a little bit of Ron Wyatt's material.
19:07 Is that correct? Yeah. In fact, that's how I got interested. I was a kid in middle school, and he had come out to a... A church in Sacramento back in 1991 or so. And it was a school night, and my father went, and he came back and told me, hey, this guy said he found this and that. I was like, oh, I'm going to check out his book. I was interested in the history and archaeology. And the local store had his Noah's Ark book, but it also had other things in the book. And so I actually decided to call him. So this was before email and the internet. And so I called 411, and the operator said, hey, I have a Ron Wyatt here, and I can... I can dial you through. And so I said, okay. And so he picked up. I was surprised. And I just started, you know, I was, you know, early teens. So I was just... I talked for, I think, two hours that first time or the following call. I think he had just come back from the Middle East. And so I started talking to him a lot until he had passed away in 1999.
20:05 But then in 97, that was my first time going overseas. A friend of mine in Florida who's passed away too, but he wanted to go see Noah's Ark on his own. So he contacted me as a travel companion. And I said, okay, I'm going to do this. And so my parents supported me. And I got out over there, and I saw the Ark site, and the Durup and Arnaud's Ark site in Turkey. And I just had to come back. You know, it gave me the travel bug. But yeah, so then fast forward to after Ron had passed away, his organization led by Richard Reeves, they got a permit from the Israeli Antiquities Authority, the IAA, to try to verify some of Ron's claims surrounding the Ark. And so I got a permit from the Israeli Antiquities Authority, the IAA, to try to verify some of Ron's claims surrounding the Ark. And so I got a permit from the Israeli Antiquities Authority, the IAA, to try to verify some of Ron's claims surrounding the Ark. And so I got a permit from the Israeli Antiquities Authority, the IAA, And so I got a permit from the Israeli Antiquities Authority, the IAA, And so they got a permit to do some excavations in a cave system, this quarry called Zedekai's Cave or Solomon's Quarries, which is under the old city of Jerusalem. It's a huge man-made cavern.
21:00 And then also a couple of years after that, this was 2003, and then in 2005, 2006, and 2007, they got permission to do work in the Garden Tomb, which is kind of like the competing site to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. The traditional site where they believe Christ was buried and crucified and resurrected, so his tomb. So there's a, you can say, a Protestant site just outside the city walls. And this is where they were excavating, because this is where Ron believed that the Ark of the Covenant was hidden on that property. And so, yeah, so I was involved with that, doing video work. And that was 2005, 2006, and that was it. And then for me, my focus has been Eastern Turkey and Mount Sinai Arabia once we got permission. The first time we got a visa was in 2016, and through a Saudi prince, which is another story, because this was before the tourist visas were around.
22:03 So I've been really busy with those two projects. But here and there, people have contacted me about the Ark of the Covenant, things like that. Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah, we could go in so many rabbit trails on this thing. I want to know everything about what you have done, because I haven't really talked to you for years and years now, and so we've got to catch up sometime. But the focus, I want to see what is the validity, or how valid is the idea that what they are seeing, what the government was seeing in the 80s, is the actual location of this thing, and what it is that they're actually viewing. Because. It's got some strange things to it, and that's kind of the point of this, is the whole point of this channel is to look into things that are a little bit strange, a little bit weird, a little bit, they are spiritual in nature, and look at the Bible and see exactly through the lens of the Bible if they line up or not.
23:03 And so one of the things, I want to pull up that article, if you don't mind. I'm going to bring it up on the screen. Yeah. So this is a document from December 5, 1988. It's called Project Sunset, and what it is, it's from the CIA. You can go to CIA.gov and actually get this document from the United States government. It's a declassified document saying that at this time, September 5, 1988, in Project No. 209, TNG 209, they had at 9.15 a.m. to 9.45, they had a remote viewer. If you don't know what a remote viewing is, I'm sure you probably do already. Andrew, but it's basically, it's what the Bible calls divination. Yeah. It's more than seeing the future, but like out-of-body experience, like you can see another place on the earth or something.
23:57 Yeah. Yeah. So this is kind of an interesting thing because I don't believe that we should ever be playing with divination at all. But this is, it's trying to see things that aren't there through accessing hidden knowledge. Basically, and yes, going, what they think is your soul leaving your body and going somewhere else, but we believe it's actually demonic entities that are telling these people things or giving them visions. And so looking into this, what's interesting, Andrew, is that I think that this is, this is edgy because I wonder how much would the demonic realm actually want to tell somebody about we're the Ten Commandments. You know what I mean? And that's what exists inside of this Ark of the Covenant. It seems like they would want to kind of make people look in a different direction. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah. When I first heard of the story, the first thing I thought of, oh, you know, every couple of years or so, there's an article about the Ark being in Ethiopia, for example, a news article.
25:07 And for me, I think it's somewhere in the Jerusalem area. We can talk about that more later. But yeah. Yeah. So when I see these stories, I'm thinking, yeah, is this the way to confuse the masses, get people thrown off the trail? And, you know, this document actually doesn't say where this, you know, so-called remote viewing location is. The Daily Mail story that kind of got it back into the attention of everyone, you know, they were saying, oh, they brought in Ethiopia, even though they actually, if you read through the document, the person doesn't mention anything like that. It's just the person claims that they could, you know, hear Arabic voices. But if you look up Ethiopia, and I had to look this up, you know, the main languages they speak are not Arabic. So if you want to say this person was actually viewing the correct location of the Ark of the Covenant, then it's someplace else and not Ethiopia.
26:04 But they mentioned a mosque and a minaret. And, you know, we can go through it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think... I'm with you on this, that, you know, this is definitely not, like, this is not God trying to reveal to the world where the Ark is. Right. It's interesting that in 1988, the CIA was testing these methods, and they thought they would try it on the Ark of the Covenant. So, you know, this was, what, you know, six or seven years after the Raiders of the Lost Ark movie came out, which was very popular. And, of course, throughout the decades, people have always, you know, looked for the Ark, explained they found it. So there's an interest in it. It's interesting that the CIA is testing this. And I saw in the document, it says it was approved for release in 2000. But I did a quick search on Google News, and I need to check, but I didn't see a story that was before this year.
26:56 So I don't know if someone just recently found out, because they're going through all the documents that were declassified. But at the very top of this document, every page, it says approved for release. It says 2000 right there, right? Yeah. Yeah, I see that. Yeah, August. Yeah, so I don't know if this was picked up. I don't know if this was picked up before, or this is just a recycled story. I didn't see anyone saying it's recycled. You know, the news is really – they do that a lot. But so I just – you know, to me, the first thing I thought of was timing. It's like, okay, what's going on that they thought this was necessary to, you know, to put out in the news and get people – Yeah, get people focused in on it. But it seems to be brand new. Like no one picked it up out of all the declassified documents, you know, 25 years ago. That's – Yeah, so that's my initial thought. That's what I wanted to check out more of it, which gets really interesting as you, you know, go through it.
27:49 Yeah, and that's what I was thinking too. Why is this coming out now? If it's out in 2000, maybe it's government bureaucracy that kind of held it back. I don't know. But for whatever reason, someone found this and someone pushed it out into the internet, and they found – I mean, this is what they're saying. So I kind of want to go through this and see what is the validity of this. It says, So I had to really dig into what in the world this is talking about, because I don't know anything about remote viewing really. But I was like, okay, so chatGBT, what is AOL? So this is what it says. Besides that organization of mail you just joined. I know. America Online. What is this? So AOL refers to, the conscious mind's tendency to interpret, analyze, or guess impressions received during remote viewing, rather than just recording the raw subconscious perception.
28:56 It is known as a mental interference that can distort the accuracy. So they give an example. This is what I thought was a really good example. If a remote viewer receives an impression, a vague impression, because that's all they're being given. They're not actually seeing this stuff. It's a vague impression of a tall structure. But then consciously think, that must be the Eiffel Tower. That assumption is AOL. That is, in other words, what is it called? Analytical overlay. And in other words, that's an assumption. So that's what they meant by that, is that they keep AOL to a minimum and are just stating the facts of what their impressions are. And what's interesting about this whole document is they said that it's provided a 50-50 success rate in their testing. So that's pretty crazy. Yeah. But let me bring it back to us real quick. I think that's interesting, but that's also disturbing at the same time.
29:56 Because if you're the CIA and you're making mission-critical observations and your 50% success rate, I don't know if I'm going to rely on that really. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if this was just a test they were doing, or they actually used this to try to gather intelligence overseas from the Washington area. It doesn't tell us much. I did actually dig into the whole project. So I don't know if they shut it down or they're still trying to do this. But I think with something like this, you compare it to what the Bible says about this method, and then you realize that it is not approved by God. But you can then say... You can then see, okay, well, what did they say about the Ark?
30:46 And I think that's the interesting part, because it is pointing to... And you can say they're just guessing, but it is pointing to an Arabic-speaking country or region or area. And I think they even said the Middle East in one of the words. If you go through the document, you can see where they write down words as they're getting these impressions or whatever you want to call it. And like this. It's like a stream of thought. They just keep writing down these words and things, and then they draw things out. And you've got to understand a little bit about how this stuff works. So I asked ChatGPT this, too. I said, you know what? How does this remote viewing actually work? And it said... I like how ChatGPT always validates me. Great question. This gets into the heart of remote viewing.
31:36 And does this viewer know what the target is? That's essentially what I want to know. He says no. In standard remote viewing protocols, the viewer does not know what the target is, what they're trying to view. In other words, in this case, the Ark of the Covenant. This is called a blind session. The viewer is given only target numbers or coordinates, which randomly assigned to the actual target. In other words, they probably have a picture of it in some other room or something like that and says, you are going to be remote viewing the actual thing of this, but we're not going to tell you what this is. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. This is done to avoid analytical overlay, AOL, which is what we talked about, and to keep the impressions as pure as possible. So it goes into the method and different things like that and the stage and the process and actually do it. I don't care too much about that because I don't want that to be something that we do. But this is what the viewer, so the viewer doesn't know what he's trying to look at. Right. So I think it's interesting to see.
32:42 what is being told to them to actually match it with the Bible and see if this is a real thing. Target is a container. This container has another container inside of it. The Target is fashioned of wood, gold, and silver. The Target is similar in shape to AOL, a coffin. And in other words, that's AOL, the coffin. And it is a decorative with seraphim. That's interesting. He didn't know what he was looking at. And he said it's seraphim. See sketch on page 16. The Target is located somewhere in the Middle East as the language spoken by the individual's presence seemed to be Arabic. Visuals of surrounding buildings indicate the presence of a mosque dome. See page 12. Individuals in the area were clothed in virtually all white, had black hair and dark eyes. One figure I had honed in on wore a mustache. The Target is hidden underground, dark and wet with all aspects of the location of the Target. The purpose of the Target is to bring people together. See page 16. It has something to do with ceremony, memory, homage, and the resurrection. There is an aspect of spirituality, information, lessons, and historical knowledge far beyond what we know. The Target is protected. This is what really was bizarre to me. The Target is protected by entities. See page 14. And can only be opened now by those who are authorized to do so. This container will not, cannot be opened until the time is deemed correct. Once it is time to open the container, these mechanics of the lock scene system will be found to be fairly simple. Individuals opening the container by prying or striking are destroyed by the container's protectors. See page 17.
34:35 What a weird thing. And so he has a bunch of scribbles. This is his original documentation. People want to go out and actually look at that deeper. That's welcome too. I don't care too much for it, but I thought the summary was rather interesting. The summary, like if you scroll down how they're doing this, the guys is kind of like have a stream of thought. Like he's just writing down these words, like wet, moist, cold, dark. And then the guy who made the summary, he said, okay, this is where it's located. This and that. Now the, the, the interesting thing is that on that first paragraph, it says, this is a container in a container. It's kind of like the Indiana Jones movie where you have a stone sarcophagus and they hid the Ark inside. And just like Ron Wyatt's claim too, he said it was in a stone box. But then it says the target being the Ark of the Covenant is fashioned of wood, gold, and silver. And we know in the Bible that silver was not used to make the Ark of the Covenant. But when you actually go down through the document, the guy does not say, I mean, the way they're doing this, it looks like he just has a list of words. Yeah. So he doesn't say that the actual box was made of silver. In fact, I was looking at the words, I saw stone and steel and I don't know how they made up the summary. But you know, they had drawings and like there's a part in the summary that talks about protectors.
35:58 So if I'm going to scroll down, if I could find it, you know, I, I went through and uploaded these images to ChatGPT. And most of these words you can decipher. They're well written, but some of the ones I couldn't understand what they're saying. What page are you on? Let's see. This is page 18. There's a part of the document where they talk about like those protecting. And I don't know, go to the container. Okay. If you, yeah, there's those eight. Now look at the one that had the wheel. I don't know. That was page 16. Oh yeah. Yeah. Right there. Right above it. See those square brackets. That's kind of like, um, to me, I don't know if that's the guy tell them like the viewer person to do this. Let's go to container and open it or up, uh, open it up. Uh, re I don't know what the other one is. Discover it as you go or describe it, uh, describe it as you go. So go to the container, open it up, describe it as you go. Um, okay. Well then, okay. Then here's where they do mention silver with gold. It does say like that first word below it on the left, uh, metallic, it says metallic, um, silver, gold. Okay. Yeah. There's silver. Then there's gold, blue, red. Yeah.
37:27 I don't know. Like how is this, but the summary, you know, like they, they skipped, they don't mention blue and red. It didn't fit what they're trying to describe. I don't know. Um, and then they have a wheel drawn. Like, what is that? What is that? It just is, is it, is the Ark of the Covenant, is it on legs or is it on a chariot of some kind when they moved it? No, it's on, it's no, there are feet. Um, so the Bible and Exodus described that had four, um, you know, stands or little feet, uh, think of a piece of furniture that keep it off the ground. Um, yeah. So, you know, then I was, I kept scrolling through this because, um, uh, you know, it mentions strange things about, um, you know, the, the Ark, uh, that the Ark is protected by, uh, what is the word it uses? Entities or? Yeah. It's weird. Is there a plant in the world? I mean. Well, I'm trying to find where, okay. How is it open? And then we'll see. So scroll down. If you go back to this, uh, page 18. I'm going to cut over, add your audio back. Okay. Yeah. See it. And it has in brackets, how is it open? So I don't know if that's the question. The manager, it tells the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the remote viewer, but then the guy draws a, you know, these misspell it, Saradin, but, um, uh, they, they call it a seraphim. Now what's really interesting is a very similar, uh, wing state shaped creature was carved in Zedekai's cave. This right across the street from the garden tomb area, uh, this underground quarry, and it was, uh, found in the 1800s and they, they removed the carving. Now it's in, um, in London, in England. So, uh, Very similar shape, and I wish I had a photo to show you, but you can look it up, Cherubim, Zedekai's cave, and you'll see an image of this carving that was in the area that Ron claimed that a tunnel led to the garden tomb. So suddenly you're seeing, okay, well, it's like they're mixing things up because they're saying, how is it open? Cherubim, or how do they call it, Serabim, opens it. Now here's something just for your Adventist viewers.
39:35 We're Adventists, but if you were to read the Spirit of Prophecy, she says that during all the travels during the Ark, when the Ark was on Earth, well, it's still here on Earth, but when it was being moved around, she says four angels guarded it. And so this is why, and she talked about they had the mission of God to keep it safe. They're the ones who knocked over the Philistine god, or whatever that was. Oh, yeah. I dig that. They're the ones that killed the guy who tried to touch it. I mean, so they were there to protect the Ark and these invisible beings. And then, you know, we'll, I guess, later on talk about the Ark being hidden. But if you go by her writings, you can assume that the Ark is still protected by God for a future purpose, just based on what she says. And then the assumption is, did the angels leave it, or are they still there gardening the Ark?
40:32 And so here we have it. You know, this guy is saying that these serendipity are there to open it, to protect it. He calls them entities or beings. What was the key word? I think it was entities. Entities, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, but the way the devil works, he mixes truth and errors. And since we've known really, you know, there's no proof that the Ark is here or there, the different stories, to me it makes biblical sense that the Ark is still in Jerusalem, some area before the Babylonians destroyed the city. So it's somewhere that there's a lot of caves, you know, that have not even been discovered yet. And according to, you know, and I do believe what Ellen Wright wrote, that the Ark was hidden by righteous people. So, like, God told them what to do. Like, this was not their own idea. And then she says it's still there, undisturbed.
41:27 But, you know, right beside the garden tomb is a bus station, which is right below this, they call it Gordon's Calvary. It's the skull face. And right next to that skull face is this cave that's called Jeremiah's Grotto. It's a traditional Jeremiah's Grotto. They say he lived in or stayed there. There's a mosque that guards it. Not guards it, but it's just there in the front. And when you're at the garden tomb property, you know, a lot of Protestants believe that that's the tomb of Jesus and he was crucified on that property there. And it makes the most sense. It's outside the city walls. But when you're standing… When you're standing at the garden tomb property and looking at that skull face, right beside it, you see this Ottoman, which is Turkish, style minaret with two windows on it. And it has… There's actually two minarets. One behind it has more of a dome.
42:18 The one in front of it is more of a pointed dome, but it has two windows. Now, if you go back to your document and scroll… And this is where it's weird. And I think, you know, the devil, he can, you know, again, mix truth and error. Sure. Because he does that. But if you go to page 14… And this is what it mentioned in the summary. But if you actually look at the notes, the drawing, there's the minaret. It said… And when it says right beside it, it says it's a white. To the left, the word white, you know, it's white stones. It says mosque dome. And then it has windows. Now, you know, it's drawn like a tower. And so on a mosque, you do have, you know, minarets. The one right beside the garden tomb is a white towered minaret. And… And from the garden tomb property, you see two windows visible on that minaret. And so it's just, you know, you can get into confirmation bias where you try…
43:14 If you believe Ron Wyatt's story, you say, hey, like, this matches perfectly. But then you look at, hey, this is a remote viewing CIA document. And so you got to be very careful with that. So, you know, there are some interesting things in here. Anyways. No, I agree. It's interesting. I wouldn't put my… Hopes and dreams or any type of belief in it. But it's fascinating to me because even though I… So I get a lot of comments when I brought this up. They said, well, we know, this is what comments have said, we know that the Ark is in heaven. God brought it to heaven. Isn't there a duplicate of it? I mean, wasn't the point to have everything duplicated? Even the sanctuary, the tabernacle in heaven is duplicated on earth. And so that's… That was kind of the point is to have… They wanted to have God on earth with them.
44:05 They wanted to be with his people. And so what do you think about that? Is it in heaven or is it both here? Yeah. So if you use just the Bible, we know in Jeremiah, I think it was three… I actually had it up here. Jeremiah 3.16, like John 3.16. But that's the… Jeremiah says there's a time that's coming. And this is the ESV version. It said, When you have multiplied and been fruitful in the land, those days, like in the future, declares the Lord, they will say, they shall no more say the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord. It shall not come to mind or be remembered or missed. It shall not be made again. And that's the last verse in the Old Testament that mentions the Ark of the Covenant. Now, you're talking about a future time. I think this would be like the millennium or the new earth that people won't think about it or need it.
45:04 But we know that the Ark disappeared right before the Babylonians came and captured the city. And right before that time, I think the last mention of the Ark during the kings was Josiah. And he mentions to the priests that they… Because they were, I guess, because, you know, Josiah did all those reforms. And the priests before that, when the temple was being desecrated or used as a pagan temple, they took out the Ark of the Covenant and they were just kind of carrying it around. They were putting it in their homes because Josiah tells them, you know, to stop carrying the Ark of the Covenant. And so, here you have this one brief mention of the Ark of the Covenant. No, I don't want to misquote that verse. Let me just see something here. Let me just look at Josiah Ark. Yeah, sure. So, one of your… Someone's going to say, ah, you got it wrong there. Let's see.
45:58 Anyways. And so, you have this, the Babylonian army coming in, surrounding the city, and then, poof, the Ark is gone. But the Bible mentions, like, everything they took to Babylon. Like, the count, I think it was, like, the utensils and the bowls. Very detailed count. And was it Ezra or Nehemiah? And what they brought back. But the major furniture, like the table of showbread, the menorah, the golden candlestick, the altar of incense, the Ark of the Covenant, they go missing. It's not mentioned. And so, some have assumed either… Oh, the Babylonians destroyed it. But you'd think they would write that down in the Bible. Like, oh, you know, the Babylonians came through and just melted the gold or something. Because it does mention that they melted down, I think, the bronze, because there's so much of it. But the Ark is just gone.
46:48 And then, right after this, you have, like, Maccabees, which is not inspired, but it's a historical book from the, you know, written a couple decades after the Maccabean revolt. So, you're looking at, you know, maybe one… They say 120. So, in between the Old and New Testament, it mentions a story about Jeremiah and his men hiding the Ark at Mount Nebo, which would be across the Jordan River. And it mentions the Ark and the tabernacle was hidden. And then you look at another book that they say dated to right after the Second Temple was destroyed. So, after the time of Christ, around, like, 100 A.D. or so. And this is a second Baruch. And in this book, it said that when the Shekinah glory left the temple, God told the earth to swallow up, and I'll read you exactly what it says, which is quite interesting. Second Baruch, Chapter 6.
47:49 Again, these are extra-biblical books. But written during probably the Second Temple period, right after the Second Temple was destroyed. And it mentions here, it says… And so, again… This is, I guess, Baruch. He was the scribe of Jeremiah. So, he's writing this, they claim. So, I'll just read the first seven verses here. And it came to pass on the morrow that, lo, the army of the Chaldees, these are the Babylonians, surrounded the city. And at the time of the evening, I, Baruch, left the people, and I went forth and stood by the oak. And I was grieving over Zion and lamenting over the captivity which had come upon the people. And, lo, suddenly a strong spirit reigned. It raised me and bore me aloft over the wall of Jerusalem and beheld, and I beheld, and, lo, four angels.
48:40 Interesting that Elohim talked about four angels protecting the ark. And, lo, I beheld four angels standing at the four corners of the city, each of them holding a torch of fire in his hands. And another angel began to descend from heaven and said to them, Hold your lamps. Do not light them until I tell you. For I am first sent to speak a word to the earth. And to place in it where the Lord the Most High has commanded me. I'm sorry, what the Lord the Most High has commanded me. So verse 7 here it says, And I saw him descend into the Holy of Holies, and take from there the veil, the holy ark, this is the Ark of the Covenant, and the mercy seat, and the two tables, and the holy raiment of the priests, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones, that would be the ephod, wherewith the priests were adorned, and all the holy vessels of the tabernacle. So everything, you know, everything else that Moses had made at Mount Sinai. And he spoke to the earth with a loud voice, Earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the mighty God, and receive what I commit to you, and guard them until the last times. And, um, this goes on, but, so in this tradition outside of the Bible, uh, they have the, uh, like the earth, you know, the ark is hidden down below somewhere.
49:57 Um, and then if you go back to Maccabees, it actually has something similar, it said they would be restored, um, um, let's see, okay, and so after Jeremiah hides the ark, according to Maccabees, it says, some of those who followed Jeremiah came up, the intent, uh, came up, uh, later, intending to mark the way, because it was supposed to be like a secret mission to hide all this, and, uh, but could not find the way. Uh, then Jeremiah learned of it, he rebuked them and declared, the place shall be, remain unknown until, God gathers his people together again and shows his mercy. Then the Lord will disclose these things, and the glory of God and the cloud will appear, that's the Shekinah glory, and they were shown in the, as they were shown in the case of Moses and as of Solomon. Uh, so again, they're always talking about this, in both of these accounts, a future time that the ark would come out. Uh, one, Baruch says the last, the last days, uh, Maccabees just says, you know, future time when the people, uh, when God gathers his people together. Um, uh, and then if you, you know, outside the Bible, and outside of these books, you go to Ellen White, and I'll read to you what she says in the Prophets and Kings.
51:11 Yeah. Uh, and she, and she's talking, and this is a kind of a famous quote too, for those who, uh, study her writings. Um, it says, among those, among the righteous still in Jerusalem, so this is Prophets and Kings, um, chapter 37, yeah, 37. So, uh, we're looking at, uh, page 453, um, paragraph 2. Uh, and she doesn't, she doesn't mention, um, Jeremiah's name. One second. Mm-hmm. Because actually, if you read the Bible, Jeremiah was locked up, uh, during the time of the, um, uh, Jerusalem was destroyed, the king had thrown him in the dungeon. Mm-hmm. But it said, among the righteous still in Jerusalem, to whom had been made plain the divine purpose, so God was talking to them, were some who determined to place beyond, beyond the reach of God. Mm-hmm. To the reach of the ruthless hands, the sacred ark, containing the tables of stone, on which have been traced the precepts of the Decalogue.
52:09 This they did, with mourning and sadness, they secreted the ark in a cave, where it was to be hidden from the people of Israel and Judah because of their sins. Mm-hmm. And was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hidden. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted. Hmm. Um, but then you read it from, there's other, this was a short quote. It was written by Jesus, who wrote someplace else, and this I have it in a PDF here. Um, and this one talks about, uh, this to be hidden, there's a play I'm trying to find, sadness hidden in a cave. Uh, uh, this is in personal letter. Here we go. This is in Bible Commentary 1102, and other places too, Manuscripts 122, written in 1901.
53:12 And he, being Christ, gave unto Moses, which he had made an end of communicating with him upon Mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, the tables of stone, written by the finger of God. Nothing written on these tables shall be blotted out. The precious record of the law was placed in the Ark of the Testament and is still there, safely hidden from the human family. But in God's appointed time, he will bring forth these tables of stone to be a testimony to all the world against the disregard of his commandments and against the idolatrous worship of a counterfeit Sabbath. So in her writings here, she believed that the future purpose of the Ark, which is basically the Ark is a box to hold. The tablets was to bring forth the tablets during a future time when there's a Sunday Sabbath issue, which as Adventists, we believe there will be, and that Sunday laws will be promoted by the government.
54:15 And so you have this interesting, like for her, the whole thing was the Ark was hidden for a reason for the future. Of course, these other books, they don't mention that, but they do mention the Ark being hidden. And then if you look at just the historical record, it makes no sense for the Ark to be hidden in Ethiopia or even in Egypt here where I'm at. But to be hidden in the Jerusalem area where the Ark was at the time that the Babylonians came. And so do you, that was actually my next question. Do you, where do you believe the Ark is currently? And what do you think about that? What kind of proof do you have? And I know we ultimately don't have proof right now. But if you were to go. Somewhere, where would you think it might be? I'm going to go somewhere where it would be. So when you look at the Jerusalem area, there are a number of sites people have claimed. They've either seen the Ark or that the Ark was hidden and they don't, you know, they haven't gotten to it yet.
55:14 Let's look at the first claim. And that is the Ark being hidden on the Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock, the famous Golden Dome is in the Alaska Mosque. This temple platform is where. King Herod's, I'm sorry, King Solomon's Temple first stood, the first temple that had the Ark, that the Babylonians destroyed that temple. And then later after the captivity, the second temple was built by Zerubbabel. And then they, then King Herod enlarged it and it became the famous second temple during the time of Christ. And you have some, a number of Jewish rabbis who have claimed that, that they were looking for the Ark under this, the Temple Mount. And they believe that Solomon had a way to hide the Ark deep in the chambers and the Temple Mount. And in the early eighties, they were trying to even go down in there and take it out. And they even broke through the outside walls underground to go into this area that's sacred today to not only the Jews, but also the Muslims.
56:18 And so when the Palestinians heard about it, they, a huge riot broke out. And I don't know if, I think people were killed, but definitely, what happened was the Ark was destroyed. What happened because of this effort, they blocked up that tunnel. The Palestinians, I believe even the Israeli police. And so when you go on this tour of the Western Wall tunnels, and you see these huge, massive foundation stones from the time of Christ, the tour guides will stop. You're underground under the city of Jerusalem, and you're on the western side of the Temple Mount. As you're walking along, they'll stop at this one place. This is even a sign. It'll say this is where you're the closest to where the most holy would have been, further behind the wall, above ground. But they also say this was also where a certain rabbi and his men broke through, and they were into the Temple Mount itself, tunneling through. And there's different stories thrown out, whether the guy actually claimed he saw the Ark, or he was close to where he thought it was. So somewhere on the Temple Mount was one claim. The next claim is one I'm more familiar with, and that's – he was an Adventist, Ron Wyatt.
57:24 And he claimed that God had led him. To the spot on the Garden Gym property, which is on the northern city walls, just outside the Damascus Gate, so outside city limits of the old city. And he believed that right where Christ was crucified, the blood of Christ went down onto the Ark, and that this is where salvation was met 600 years later, after they hid the Ark. Because the Ark was hidden about 586 BC. During the destruction. So his story was that he was digging there for two or three years, or more, from the late 70s until 1982. And he claimed he saw the Ark in the chamber, that he was tunneling through Mount Moriah, him and his sons. And they saw the Ark, but that they came in through the natural tunnels that are in this limestone mountain of Mount Moriah, so they couldn't remove it. So he had no proof. And he said every time he took a picture, the pictures were blurry. Basically, what he understood was that God didn't want the Ark to be revealed until a certain time.
58:33 So that was his story. And then I think there's another claim that the Ark is hidden down in the City of David area. But basically, we're in Jerusalem. And I think those claims make the most sense. Now, which claim out of all those that I personally believe? Again, without any proof, I do believe that the story, I think it makes biblical sense. I know there are those who will say it. This is not a good biblical theology. But I think that the Ark being hidden where Ron said he claimed to have found it without proof is, to me, I don't see anything wrong with that idea. So there's no proof. So I don't even argue. Most of the time, I don't even discuss it with people unless I'm really into this topic because it's pointless. And I can't prove it, so why should I argue it? But for my belief, I think that's a good point.
59:26 That's a good spot for it and being under the crucifixion site. Now, I'll tell you an interesting story. When I was here in – I was there in Israel in December, I got an email that came in, and it was from a well-known Jewish rabbi who writes books. And a friend who knew him too had told him to talk to me, and he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant. And so this – I'm not going to give his name out because he's still looking. And so – So he asked me because I was there – I was in Jerusalem at that time for three weeks in December, and he needed help. And the spot he was looking for was an area that he couldn't go himself. I don't know if he was even in Israel because I didn't – we just communicated over email. Maybe he's back in the U.S. But anyways, he asked me to do specific things like take pictures mainly and try to look on old maps to see if he could find the spot above ground.
1:00:26 We did all that, and then at the end, his next step is now I need you to get a metal detector or some type of device and bring it to the site, which is – that would cause a problem. And so he's looking for equipment that I could hide under my clothing that I could go into this off-limits area and use this metal detector to see if the Ark is hiding there. And that's where we're left. It's left there for now. But it's interesting. I meet some interesting people in all these travels, and that was one that just recently happened. Oh, and then on the same trip, I met an individual. And I met him physically. He wasn't over email, but he takes care of the red heifers, which are the cows that they're trying to get ready for the sacrifice. I know. So they want to burn them. You need the ashes for the purification. So they can start the third temple.
1:01:29 And so some people in America and Texas donated these red heifers, and they sent them to Israel, and they're being taken care of there. And I was with actually a Mormon tour group. I know the leaders of this group, and they brought me along to talk about some of this stuff, about the Ark of the Covenant and things like that. The Mormons are interested in Ron Wyatt. And so we went and visited the red heifers. They knew the gentleman, so I met him. But we were on a side trip together down in the Dead Sea. And he was looking, or someone he knew in the past believed that the Ark was down there, that somehow they brought out the city of David out of the Temple Mount and used the tunnels that maybe Zedekiah used when he fled. You remember the story when the Babylonians were about to destroy the whole city? King Zedekiah, the last king of Israel, he fled with his men down to Jericho, where Nebuchadnezzar's, I think, general captured him. King Zedekiah, the last king of Israel, he fled with his men down to Jericho, where Nebuchadnezzar's, I think, general captured him. King Zedekiah, the last king of Israel, he fled with his men down to Jericho, where Nebuchadnezzar's, I think, general captured him. And then, so somehow they were able to escape.
1:02:31 And so this gentleman, who is no longer around, but some of the people who follow his work are still looking for it down in the Dead Sea area. And they think that the Ark would be hidden there. And so I met this guy. So it's interesting. You have all these different stories and people looking for the Ark around this time period. And now they have the CIA document come out. It's all kinds of stuff that's happening right now. And that's very interesting. And you said, I wanted to go back real quick to that metal detector thing. You said that's where you left it. What do you mean? You left the metal detector there? No, that's where the project, his project. Well, right now Ramadan just finished. And so… Don't say anything that would incriminate you. Yeah, basically it wasn't a good time to do anything. And so, yeah, so it has not been done.
1:03:21 And he was looking at a certain spot. And, you know, if it's not too dangerous, I was willing to help him. The first part was kind of easy. I was just, you know, taking pictures with my iPhone, acting like a tourist. The next one, you know, first I got to get permission to get into the spot he wants me to go. And that requires, you know, I know a guy who knows a guy, put it that way. And this guy could possibly get me into the spot. But then to bring in equipment, I'd have to be hiding under my clothing or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So. You know, but it's interesting that you have. And the reason why he had asked me to do it and not himself, this rabbi, because, you know, they're not allowed up there. Well, I might have given it away, but they're not allowed in certain spots because if it's holy, then they're not supposed to be in a certain spot.
1:04:11 So they had to ask a Gentile to look for it. And so that was the reason. He told me, I'm friends, you're a Gentile, so I guess it's okay. So you can go looking for it because I can't personally. Because he's a Jew, so. Very good. I'm very curious. The places that people think they are, I don't know the geography of Jerusalem or that area at all. And maybe I can put up a little picture with the little star where the different areas are that people think they are. That probably helps. Yeah, I would like to see that myself. And I think that would help the audience understand a little bit better. Can you give me like a little pin or something on Google Earth or something like that that you can show me? Because I don't even know where the north side of Jerusalem is, really. So you want me to send it so you can add it in post or right now?
1:05:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll add it in post. Just send me an email. Yeah, okay. I can send it to you. So you want me, so right now, do you have Google up? Yeah. I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Let me remember Google Earth up. That would be fun. Okay. Here we go. Flying down. Wow. This is not remote viewing, guys, just so you know what it is. Right. This is remote scrolling. I don't know even what I'm looking at here. Yeah, it's a whole, because the Jerusalem city now is huge. You have a lot of modern development all the way around it. Zoom in just a little closer. We should see the Temple Mount. Yeah, okay. Now scroll up to your, or it's the top right. You'll see a square platform right there. Scroll in. Okay, just right to there.
1:05:54 Yeah, so this is the Temple Mount that King Herod had built. So he had, there was a Roman fortress on the northwest corner. You can see the outline of the actual, yeah, right in that area there would have been a Roman fortress. Not there anymore. Then when you zoom back out, you'll see the actual Dome of the Rock, which is the golden dome on a platform right there. And, you know, many believe that this area is where the temple stood. There's difference of opinion as to where on the Temple Mount people think. Some, you know, most people say it was on where the Dome of the Rock is today. That's where Herod's temple stood, which would then been where Solomon's temple stood. Others say, I was watching a video today. You know, there are a couple of scholars who do say that the temple itself was north of this, on the same Temple Mount, but just north of the building of the Dome of the Rock.
1:06:46 And then others, I've seen a lady, she has a, I don't know her background, but there are people who like what she does. She has presented on the same topic. She's researched this, and she believes it's on the southern end, that south, western corner. Right down here? That's where, yeah, on the platform itself. And so then the actual City of David went out from there to the south. So is there like caves or stuff? How is, why do they think it's here if there's nothing here? I'm confused by that. So, yeah, the whole City of David, this whole, you can call, you know, the Bible talks about mountains, but when you're, if you've been to Colorado and see the Rocky Mountains, you're like, these are hills. But Jerusalem is built on mountains. Yeah, Mount Moriah is, it looks like a hill to us who are used to the big mountains. And so the Temple Mount, that would have been the area for Mount Moriah, that whole ridge going south to north, north to south. And it's a limestone sedimentary rock formation, these mountains or hills.
1:07:52 And so. And so it's a very easy for water or acid or whatever, you know, just to mix and create cavities. And so you have a lot of natural and man-made tunnels and caves and cavities all through under Jerusalem. Under here, under this thing or under the whole thing. Yeah, and plus there's like cisterns where they stored water. You can look up the cisterns on the Temple Mount. There's maps from the 1800s where some of these early explorers were able to map out these cisterns. And so some people believe that in some of these cisterns could, be the Ark of the Covenant or directly much deeper under the Dome of the Rock. And just west of that Dome of the Rock or the edge of the Temple Mount, that's where you do this underground tunnel tour to show you the Herod's platform. No, along the whole, the western wall of the Temple Mount itself. Yeah, underground there, that straight line.
1:08:43 So you go, there's a tour you can take and that's, and they'll take you right across from the Dome of the Rock, like right there, you stop. You're right west of the Dome of the Rock building, but you're underground. And this is where they, they were digging there at the same time Ron was digging north of the city. They were digging here and you look up the old news about what happened, the big riots that happened because they were looking, these rabbis were looking for the Ark of the Covenant and they entered underground into the, this platform. So now it's all cemented up, but they'll point out the spot. You go on the tour. And then, you know, if you zoom out a little bit and scroll up, you're going north, so going up, there's the city wall, the old city wall, which was built, the city wall today is the Ottoman Turk, the Ottoman Empire. They controlled this area of the Middle East. You're talking about this city wall right here? No, that's the edge of the Temple Mount. So kind of where the yellow was at. No, no, go back down. Right here. There's that road. Yeah. So that's the old city wall. You can actually see it there. Yeah. It's like a castle wall, but there's built by the Ottoman Turks.
1:09:45 If you zoom out just a little bit and then scroll to your left. Yeah. So right there. I'll stop and I'll zoom in just a little bit. Right there. You'll see a bus station. You see all these big vehicles, long, skinny vehicles, white. Yeah. That's a bus station right beside it. Just north is this huge Muslim cemetery. That's a hill. That's like the top of Mount Moriah. Oh, wow. And so the whole ridge of Mount Moriah goes all the way down to the city of David past the Temple Mount. But this part where the bus station's at, that's where you, when you're in the Garden Gym property, right beside this bus station property is what they call, Gordon's Calvary or the Skull Hill. Because you have this rock formation that looks like two eye sockets and a nose that's broken now. But so this whole area is full of cavities and tunnels too. Because again, this is all limestone rock. It's pretty soft. Now the Garden Gym property, if you look at that Muslim cemetery, just to the left of it, you see a lot of trees right there.
1:10:43 Zoom in. The one, the trees that are kind of below, not that one, the main part. And what? Yeah. Right scroll. Move. South, not north. That's the actual Catholic property. St. Stephen's there. That's it. That's that is owned by a British organization. They bought the property in the 1800s because a tomb was found on there, an empty tomb. And they believe that this is the tomb of Christ. And it was on this property that Ron got permission in the late seventies to start excavating him and his two sons. They cleaned out this area of the property that was not landscaped at the time. It was kind of a trashy dump area. And this is where you can go and you can worship and meditate there and read your Bible. And, you know, a lot of church groups go there, have communion, you know, a lot of tour groups go there and have a really nice facility. Well, that's a landscaped area, but it was all that property that Romley was the crucifixion.
1:11:37 Of course, many Christians believe that that is the actual true spot where Christ was crucified and buried right here. I thought this is where you said the tomb was. Yeah. So that, well, it's a big property. I mean, it's not big, but. It's the property itself. I don't know how many acres that would be or half an acre or two acres. I don't know. Visually you could measure it on Google maps, but yeah, on the property, there's a tomb. And then you go around the corner, it kind of followed the green. If you go to the it's kind of like an L shape. If you go to the bottom. Yeah. So right there, go back up. You can scroll in. You'll see where the, I'll tell you where the tomb is. It's kind of a bad way to do all this, but no scroll up now. So you get to see the tree property. Okay. Stop right there. Now zoom strike in the middle of your screen. Zoom in, um, right past where the trees are right above the trees.
1:12:25 It's kind of some cement looking area. Yeah. Right. That's the edge of the property right there. That's where there's actually a tomb. It's a cliff right there. So built into the side of that mountain face is a tomb. Um, and so this is their whole property. All that, uh, green is their trees and plants. And so the two, yeah, it's just right up against the edge of their property line. Uh, above them is the Muslim cemetery. Um, now if you scroll down, follow the, like an L follow the trees around the corner to the south. Yeah. So this is kind of move over, scroll down right there where you're at, where your cursor was at. That's where Ron white was excavating. So he believed this is the crucifixion site. Now the garden tomb does not recognize any of his claims. They do know he dug there. They gave, you know, the person in charge back in the eighties to give him permission.
1:13:13 Um, so he wasn't digging illegally. Um, and the IAA at the time was the, uh, department of antiquities. They also gave him permission. Um, so that's the interesting thing there that later they say, no, he dug illegally, but we know from, um, letters from, uh, others and from people who saw the IAA or the department antiquities, archeologists like sign off on his permit. Yeah. So, you know, there's different reasons as to like, why would they give him permission? He wasn't an archeologist. Did he just have the favor, you know, with them? Um, and then for them to deny it later, why was that? Was it just because he was controversial or did it? Is it? Cause of their height? You know, there's maybe it's both, um, but, uh, here's something interesting. Um, and all the, I can tell you it, but I won't show the photos yet. Um, so in the late nineties, when Ron, I think he had just passed away, uh, or maybe you were just, you know, he passed away in August 99, but I had contacted, uh, the IAA, the Israeli antiquities authority.
1:14:12 And I just asked, and this is where, you know, I wanted to ask them about any thing in their archives without. Not mentioning Ron's name. Oh, yeah. And then I'll shut down the request. So I just said, Hey, do you have any, um, archeological, um, uh, reports or photos, um, from 1980 to 1982, where Ron claimed he had found the art. And that was when he was actually on site digging, um, in your archives and didn't say anything else. And then they, they, the guy, the archivist responded and this Israeli archeologist said, Oh yeah, we have this, um, scientific report. It looked like it was misfiled. And it has, uh, This certain archeologist's name and the guy's name was one of the guys that Ron had mentioned in a meeting that's been recorded on YouTube. I think New Zealand or someplace. And Ron said he lists four people that had signed his permit. And this guy's name was one of them. But anyway, so that, that perked my interest. Okay. But they said, okay. And there's like three photographs in this file. And it won and they show pottery pieces in front of a, um, a cave opening.
1:15:14 That's all it said. So I wanted to see those. I was like, okay, here's an Israeli archeologist taking photographs. Um, in the cave opening area in 1981, this is where, you know, Ron was in the middle of his dig, you know, what's this about? Um, so I asked for permission. Then they, then they got suspicious. They're like, well, what do you want it for? I said, Oh, just for private research. I said, okay, well, it should be no problems. He's got to pay a fee. I said, okay. Um, and then they came back to me and said, well, you know, these, these are unpublished photographs. Um, so you need permission from the publication committee. And, and I said, okay, who are they? And then that was the last thing communicated with me. I'm like, okay, no, no, no problem. So then fast forward though. Yeah. I, you know, in the back of my mind, um, I've even asked other, um, friends who are archeologists to try to get them. And, um, well then I remember one time COVID hit and then, so everything was shut down and then I, they were all working from home in Israel.
1:16:05 Um, so they couldn't do anything, but then out of the blue, I got this, um, contact, um, this person contact me and he's one, uh, a top attorney in Israel. Um, and he, um, uh, he, uh, he was telling me later, he said, yeah, if you look. At this time, um, was it four years ago? Um, he said, like, you look at the top 10 stories about lawsuits in Israel, his firm handles, um, the top six of those 10. So he's well known. Um, but he became a believer and, um, interested because of the Exodus and hearing about Mount Sinai in Arabia. He, he grew up as an atheist, uh, Jewish. Um, his last name is Cohen. I guess I can say that. Um, which is the priestly line. Interesting. The Cohen, you know, the Cohenites were the priests. Um, anyways, but he grew up. He grew up as an atheist and then he became a believer. Um, and he, uh, just out of the blue contact me and said, I would love to help any way I can for anything.
1:16:58 And right away I thought, oh, well, these photos that are waiting 20, you know, this was, this was 1999. And then now we're looking at, you know, 2022 or so, like 22 to 22 years later, I was still thinking about that. I said, Hey, would you want to check this out for me? And he said, oh, you know what? One of the ladies in my law firm, she's good friends with. Uh, the, the IAA archivist was like, oh, so within a couple of days they had emailed me the photos for free and, um, he said, do whatever you want with them. So I haven't published anything yet. Cause again, it doesn't prove Ron found the art, but this is what's interesting. What it proves is that the IAA had an archeologist on site documenting some of the things that were pulling up out of the ground. And if you look at the, one of the photographs, it was the exact spot where Ron said he started his excavation.
1:17:47 You see all the rocks are the same. Ron's photograph behind, like where the pottery's at and the, where this Israeli archeologist, uh, took his photograph. Now, sadly that Israeli archeologist has passed away too. So we can't like talk to him about it, but you know, they have these photographs in their archives and no one probably ever thought about destroying it. If they, if they really believed Ron found the art, which again, we don't know. But, um, but to me, that was just another thing. Cause I have letters from the Israeli antiquities from the nineties where they, this really bad mouth Ron and even the garden tomb property, very negative. And they say, ah, you know, he doesn't have his. His degree, he would not even get permission to excavate. Uh, but you know, one time they're even begging, you know, even if Ron did it illegally, if he wants to share what he found with us, um, we would love to see his report. So it was kind of interesting that they would say it that way. And this was in the mid nineties, but then, you know, you have on file, you know, in their archives, these photographs, um, not the Ark of the covenant, but a pottery that Ron was pulling out of the ground right at the same place.
1:18:48 At the same time. He was digging the same location he was digging. Um, and, uh, so, uh, you know, for those who believe Ron's story, that's just like another piece of evidence for those who don't, they're just like, okay, well, you know, uh, it doesn't prove Ron found the Ark just proves that he was digging on the garden tomb. So, um, you know, one of those interesting things though, the, I just threw it out there. Um, so yeah, I haven't, you know, it's been, what is it? Three or four years now. And I, uh, you know, some things I'm just waiting to say, okay, how can I tie this in? Uh, I don't want to just do a story. Just for clickbait, especially for the Ark. I was thinking, you know, maybe there's something, but then the CIA, this stuff came out. I was like, Hey, this could be hits me to tie it all in. Right. Um, but, uh, you know, you can get, you know, some things you do at the right time because the interest level is, and you can get the truth out that that way. So there's nothing wrong with that, but just to do it on its own, just for, um, you know, subscribers sake.
1:19:41 Yeah. And I do believe the Ark still is still around, whether it's Ron who found it or still waiting to be found. Uh, as an actress. I do. I do believe that Ella White is correct, that it was, uh, has a future purpose that the Ark exists in the chamber. Uh, she doesn't say Jerusalem, but the way she wrote that to me, that paragraph, the couple of paragraphs there in, um, prophets of Kings, she's talking about it being hidden right before the Babylonians destroyed the city. Uh, and then, you know, it goes along with, you know, second Baruch and second Maccabees, um, the same other, you know, non-biblical books, but, you know, written, you know, closer to that timeframe that talked about the Ark being hidden. For a future purpose. For a future purpose. Interesting. Very, very interesting. And all, all possibly around those areas that are, are right there. I, I have a very ignorant question. What, why is the IAA so mad at, uh, Ron Wyatt? That's, well, I don't know why. I mean, you maybe can ask them, why would they be mad? I, I think, uh, you know, he has, and this goes back to, if you believe the story, you know, it goes down, it comes down to, uh, you're going to make a lot of outlandish claims.
1:20:44 I say that from their point of view. They say, okay, this is the guy saying he found the Ark of the Covenant in Israel. Uh, now, so if you don't provide the photographs, like what's the reason? And so Ron had his reasons for different things, saying that the photographs were blurry or, you know, to them, it's like, oh, the dog ate the evidence type of story. Yeah. You know? And, and, and so, you know, from a cynical point of view, you can see why, uh, you know, you can say, well, here's the guy who's making a lot of claims. Uh, we don't want to be associated with that guy. Um, but it is, you know, the other point of view, you can say, well, cause Ron claimed he worked with certain people there. And, um, one of those. Individuals are still alive, actually. Uh, but this guy, uh, won't talk about any of it, but essentially there was a report, uh, reporter asked him some questions about Ron Wyatt in 2003. It was in the Jerusalem post. And, um, right after our first excavation, Zedekai's cave, when we were doing this after Ron Wyatt had passed away.
1:21:40 But in there, they interviewed, um, people who didn't like Ron, like, um, the one atheist archaeologist in the IAA. And he was like, oh, this guy just, you know, he's a con artist. And then they interviewed this one other individual who, uh, Ron claimed was one of the guys who signed his permit. And this Israeli archaeologist, um, who was high up and, um, he was, you know, the main guy for that area. He, uh, he had nothing negative to say about Ron. He said he, he believed Ron acted out of a pure heart. I think it was the exact words or something. Uh, and here's his chance. So Ron was gone. He could have said, oh yeah, that guy was a con artist. I didn't sign any, you know, he, he doesn't, um, say he signed anything for Ron. But he just says. Like, um, he thinks Ron's story when, when Ron talks about him being with an archaeologist is referring to himself. Um, yeah, there are photos of Ron with this guy.
1:22:29 Um, but, um, I think he was at a conference in America. Um, but still, uh, Ron knew the guy and, uh, the guy, you know, this one news article only said kind things about Ron. Um, you know, he didn't say Ron found the arc, but, uh, still, that was a chance for the guy to say, Hey, they've Ron made it all up. Yeah. Very interesting. And is, is there, I don't want to make this all about Ron Wyatt, cause I know that's not necessarily your purpose, but I, I do, uh, I am curious a little bit more. If there, if there's one documentary about Ron Wyatt's, um, discoveries, what, what would you recommend watching? I depend on, on the different ones. So if you looked at, um, the Mount Sinai Exodus, uh, discovery, which I believe is a discovery and more scholars are seeing it that way. Like Mount Sinai being in land of Midian, which is on Northwest Arabia. Um, then it was pretty long film or it was a bunch of films, but it's the pattern of evidence ones by Tim Mahoney.
1:23:28 And he goes, it's like a discovery channel type of documentary film, high quality, top notch, but each there's six of them or more now, but anyways, they, they're each a couple hours long, I think. So, but that one hits like the pros and cons of the Exodus routes and Mount Sinai. And at the end, his inclusion is, and he, you know, he believed Sinai was in Arabia. But he's just showing both sides. Sure. But at the end, he states on camera that Mount Sinai, this Jebel Makla, you know, Jebel Allah's, that area there, um, in Arabia is the best candidate, uh, for Mount Sinai. And so I think that's the best one on that topic. Now on the Noah's Ark one. Is that the place you, you've, you've, uh, taken people to? Exactly. That's, uh, Jebel Makla is the actual name of the peak. Ron called it Jebel Allah's. That's the range, the mountain range there.
1:24:16 And there's actually up. Yeah. The peak called Jebel Allah's, like five miles to the north or so. Um, but this area is where the locals, even when Ron went out there, they said, Hina Jebel Musa, which in Arabic means here's the mountain of Moses. And this is before YouTube, because some critics say, ah, these locals, you know, what they say now is that cause they watch a YouTube video and now they're trying to make money. Like, no, the guy in Ron was with another guy. He just happened to be on the trip. Uh, David Fazzle passed away, but even Fazzle, when he was there in 1985 with Ron on Ron's second trip. Uh, but his first time legally, because the year before he went in illegally and got caught, but, uh, Fazzle just happened to be there with him because he was interested in Ron's Noah's Ark site. And because he was on that trip, the Saudi businessman who gave Ron a legitimate visa at the time, because Saudi was a closed country until 2019. Like you had to get a business visa or a Hajj, you know, if you're going to Mecca as a Muslim or military or whatever, but you couldn't just get a tourist visa to go see, uh, visit the kingdom.
1:25:17 Until two out September, 2019. And, um, so like when we went in 2016, we got a business visa through the Saudi Prince. Um, and so at that time, Ron got a business visa, but because Fazzle was with them, he got a free trip too. And he was able to go see this mountain. And when they were there, the local Bedouin came up. It was like the one, he's like a sheep, like the one main guy that lived there at the area. And he said to them, Hena Jebel Musa here in English, that's here's the mountain of Moses. Now, how did this guy who is on YouTube back then, why would he say like this peak is Mount Sinai? I was like, well, not that one, but this one, you know, when there's a traditional Mount Sinai in, uh, St. Catherine, which is a monastery run by, you know, Greek Orthodox and it's, um, in Egypt where I'm at. Um, and so, uh, why would this guy know that that type of information, unless it was passed down and then shit.
1:26:10 So you have this local tradition. You have a lot of, uh, you look at the history, um, from the classical time period, like Joseph around. The time of Josephus and Christ time, um, the idea of that Jethro, like Mount Sinai is near where Jethro lived and Jethro lived in the city called medium or median, uh, which is the modern day town of Al Bada in Saudi Arabia. And they have a traditional well of Jethro where Moses met his wife there, you know, future wife. Um, so you have all this tradition, even Islamic sources and the ages all pointing to Sinai there. Um, uh, so yeah, the patterns of evidence is a great. Uh, film, uh, if you want something shorter, I know there are a different YouTubers who have made little videos. My friend, Ryan Moreau, he made a 20 minute video. He, you might see him on Fox sometimes. He, um, he's a national security analyst. He does his own tours. Um, but he's a good friend. Um, I helped him with his first visa in, and we filmed his 20 minute film for him, a friend of mine. And I was there and we, uh, did the film, um, others edited it, but, uh, that's what I'll send to you.
1:27:13 You, you, people can watch that. Cool. Um, uh, and the Noah's Ark, same thing, like different YouTube videos out there. I can send you a list of links. You can watch, uh, you know, from short little five minute ones all the way up to, you know, a couple hours. Yeah, no, I, I, I've, I watched Ron Wyatt, uh, some things on Ron Wyatt a long time ago, but I thought this looks interesting. I didn't commit it to memory. And so I, I, when I had the ability to actually interview some more of the official people, I thought, well, I want to actually, uh, make sure that I believe this before I put it out on YouTube. So, oh, yeah. And so like today, uh, the same thing, there's no proof he found the Ark of the Covenant. Um, you can say, Hey, it matches, like, you know, maybe there's some things that CIA document that's matching Ron's location by chance. Uh, it's matching what Ellen White wrote, but you can say, you know, Ron was Adventist. You could have just said that cause he read Ellen White. Um, uh, it, it matches the biblical account in the sense that the Ark was lost in the, somewhere in Jerusalem, you know, that type of, uh, but the, uh, the specifics, yeah, there's no proof, uh, of his story.
1:28:16 Um, of the blood on the mercy seat. And so you'll find a lot of, uh, uh, pastors and conference officials and, you know, even Adventist archeologists. I don't think there's one that accepts anything Ron says. Uh, it's fine. Um, I like when I'm dealing with the Noah's Ark, uh, um, site, uh, you know, every two years they have a Noah's Ark symposium where they bring in all these lay people and archeologists and different professors, Turkey and around the world. Uh, and so I'm good friends now with the local university that organizes it. And so they contacted me in 2023. At the beginning, they said, Hey, um, we, we want you to help promote, like get creation, like West, they want Westerners. They said, we don't just want Turkish scientists. I was like, okay. So I sent the word out to different people, like trying to get creationists, but also sent it to, you know, Adventist archeologists. Um, well, I was in the, um, Istanbul airport, um, heading actually on one of my many trips through Turkey, heading back to my hometown there at the base of Mount Ararat. And I hear some Americans speaking. I thought, wait, I recognize that one voice. I turned around. It's actually, I guess.
1:29:16 I can say his name, uh, Dr. Randall Yonkers, who's in charge. He's the department head at NGC university for archeology. And now he's against the claim that drop in our site is Noah's Ark or Ron or that Ron found anything, but a very nice guy. And I've known of him and known, been to his seminars, many, you know, since the nineties actually. Um, and he was there with his team and I was like, oh, and I knew that they got interested a couple of years ago, looking for Noah's Ark on the big volcano. And, but then they, they, um, they kind of. Backtracked from that. I said, well, so what are you guys doing here? And he said, oh, we're, we're, we're going to study more of the, um, like all the sites, but more also the history and the, the folklore and the myths of Noah's Ark in the region. And, um, I said, oh, that's cool. And so, uh, about, uh, you know, we were both flying into the same airport in Eastern Turkey. And so right after I said goodbye to their team, his team, and then I had a meeting with the, the Agri university and the vice director at the time, um, in this meeting, uh, him and another professor.
1:30:16 And they, they, they, they told me, Hey, um, we need this help. Like, who can you bring in for a keynote? And I immediately said, Oh, Dr. Yonkers. No, he actually presented at one time, like they held this every two years. So I think it was in 2019, he presented, um, and I said, what about this guy? And I know he's presented at, um, Azor and other places, like, you know, he's well-known good speaker and they said, oh, that's a good idea. And so actually, so by the time of the October conference, um, these two university had partnered, uh, and. I think it was half the conference and that we had two Adventist professors who were the keynote for the, um, the, the, the, the big symposium and that included Randall Yonkers for, um, the archeology. And then they brought in the head, the Dean of the school of theology that Randy did. And he gave the other keynote. It was about the story of Noah's Ark, the theme of Noah's Ark in the Bible. Huh? And so, so the presentations are, um, uh, I don't know if it's on the internet.
1:31:15 I'll have to check. But, um, anyways, I do have the video file for it. Uh, but, uh, so here's this, we get these people involved and then, um, at the end, it's a two day conference. You give them papers. I gave two papers myself. Um, so you have, you know, lay people and archeologists, uh, and I'm always meeting, I see them at lunch and, you know, it's, it's a very friendly, even though they don't think this site is real Noah's Ark. I think I'm crazy. Uh, but you know, we get to the third day we're at the Noah's Ark site. Cause it's like an outing day or excursion day. So they go to the base of Mount Ararat, uh, then they go over to the, our site, which is this across the valley. And we have a chai and tea and baklava desserts. And, um, me and my friend, we sponsored that for the whole team and his team is down on the Ark. And I talked to one of the professors who's doing this interview with Turkish press. I said, Hey, you should team up with this university, like announce that you're teaming with Andrew university and his interview, which goes worldwide.
1:32:13 He announces that he's that they're teaming. He's teaming up with Andrew university to study Noah's Ark, like the whole area. You can say, including the Derup in our site, but, um, and I said, you better, you better go tell, I told the professor, you better go tell Randy. Cause, uh, cause I, I don't know if he knows you guys are teaming up. Um, but, uh, you know, at the end of the day, you know, his team went down on the boat and they said, oh, it's all geology. And, um, I, we were working on them. Uh, you know, the, the, the couple of professors we're dealing with in Turkey, one's a Turkish geologist. Who studied at the most, it's 1985. Um, and this guy's retired now, but he's a geologist and I consider him the world expert for that region. And he believes it's not a natural formation at all that you're dealing with a man-made object. And what else is boat shaped in the mountains of Iraq, the exact size of Noah's Ark.
1:33:04 So this guy, he's still alive, thankfully. And we had just filmed the whole series with him in Switzerland and a friend's TV studio there. And, um, and so I was just there in January and February in Switzerland doing that. Um, and, uh, so, uh, you know, then you have this university project they did announce with Andrews. I don't know what all they'll study. You know, they're looking at all the sites, uh, what, you know, what they're going to do. Um, but, uh, you know, it's exciting times who knows what will happen, but, uh, just so you know that like, yeah, from the, if you send an email to like Randall Yonkers or, um, to like another church archaeologist, they'll be like, oh, Ron White. Uh, you know, he's a scammer or a con artist or, or no, no one believes this stuff. So. It is what it is. Everyone has an opinion. So, yeah, I'm, I'm curious about it. In archaeology, they say it's hard to get two archaeologists to agree to one thing. No, I'm not, I'm not just saying that just as, you know, uh, but I do believe that you have a lot of a nitpicking, uh, or people, um, I don't know what the reasons are, but, uh, no more work needs to be done on these sites.
1:34:06 Uh, and we're doing it and others are, uh, and so let's see what happens. But I think it's the best candidate, just like Mount Sinai Arabia. And I tell people until you find, you know, another place. I have better ones saying this is Mount Sinai, uh, and other place that matches the biblical account has a big area for this rights thing camp, you know, then this is the best candidate for me. Um, you know, so for now, that's the Mount Sinai and I, I haven't seen one other, you know, there's at least a dozen or so Mount Sinai is proposed and they're all over the place. Yeah. But, um, only one seems to have everything lined up exactly. And that's the one, um, right there called Jabba Makkah. Very, very interesting. Very interesting. And I've really enjoyed. Watching your channel and all the drone video that you put out on that. Um, I can do another series about, uh, drone, um, um, adventures, birds attacking, uh, um, drones, you know, $6,000 drones falling from the sky.
1:35:03 Um, uh, sneaking in drones, the places we shouldn't be using Royal letters to get through customs. Yeah. But, uh. You know, but, but, you know, all that aside, the interesting thing, and I love showing new people, these sites, we just had a tour group, uh, last month, February, and mainly Australian actually on that, on that group. Um, but, uh, seeing people, uh, where they, uh, get the, like the first reaction to sites and they went matches the Bible and they see the story to come alive. And sometimes you can say, okay, you're 90% sure, but unless you find another site again, you're like, this is the best candidate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I love doing, uh, going back. Cause some people ask me, aren't you sick of seeing the same thing over and over? I'll do maybe four tours a year, sometimes back to back. And then I do private groups, like film people, like, you know, pastors wanting to film, or even just like I had Mennonites, Mormons, you know, people who wanted to have their own tour on their own.
1:36:05 Um, but no, I love seeing, uh, you know, of course you meet a lot of new people, but just seeing their reaction when they see the Bible stories come alive. So if people wanted to support you or they wanted to find it and do a tour with you, how would they do that? I want to kind of promote your content and see how people can get a hold of you. If there's one thing that I want to look up on YouTube, you can look up Discovered Past tense, Discovered Media. And on there are different links to our websites. For the Mount Sinai Exodus trips we do, you can go to discoveredsinai.com. And then for the Noah's Ark research, which also has the tour link on the menu, is the noahzarkscans.com. So noahzarkscans.com. And you can look up. And yeah, so we do have certain public tour dates set up, different links.
1:36:55 So if you want to do like a three-day, five-day, 12-day for Turkey especially. We'll soon do that for Mount Sinai. But for that one, we have a five-day, one-week-long tour. And then we have a six-day tour for Egypt. And it does. For those who just want to show up. So it's not a money thing. It does support my living overseas and doing the research and making videos. But at the same time, we do a lot of free stuff. So when people just say, hey, I'm going to be in the area. Okay, just show up at the visitor center at Noah's Ark. Or we met up with people at Mount Sinai. And then they just, in their car, follow my tour group. That's cool. Yeah. Or if they want to go on their own. It's not a secret. I'll tell them exactly where sites are. And it's okay. Well, here's the GPS. Here's the car rental companies we use. Here's a local guide. So, and I've sent many different, you know, especially I get a lot of non-adventists, of course.
1:37:48 So a lot of different denominations and people coming through. They don't fit in my schedule. They want a, like, really cheap tour. Or it's just I'm not around during that time in another country. So I'll send them to the local, like, you know, the Saudi companies I've made a bunch of money off. The people I've sent them. So it's not people who want to attack, say, oh, it's a money thing. No, it's not. It's a passion. I love doing this. And I'm thankful that I learned of these sites through Ron Wyatt and then studying other people. You know, it's not just Ron Wyatt stuff. But, you know, that's a big part of it. And seeing these sites on my own and being able to share now, you know, through YouTube. That's cool. That's awesome. Well, man, this has been eye-opening to see everything that you're seeing. I'm going to go to your YouTube channel and look at some more of those drone videos. That's my latest. Yeah. Very short. But, yeah, I do want to get out this CIA video.
1:38:41 I'm just trying to think of when. But let's see. The next one I have lined up. We had Pastor Rick Renner, who's – I don't know if he's charismatic. He's just evangelical. But he moved to Moscow right when the wall fell, and he started a ministry. Now they're – like, the amazing facts are huge. They have, like, 200 employees worldwide. So he does a lot of video programs. So they came out last year and the year before to see the Noah's Ark site. And he wrote a book that helped edit giants in the Bible and the so-called Nephilim. I don't want to say so-called. We know the Nephilim exist, but, you know, everyone has their take on what they are. But anyways, he wrote a book about it. And then – so I've been putting out the videos of our trip because I was there for a week with them as their guide. I was also on screen just like I did with Jim Scudder from Chicago.
1:39:31 So I was kind of like the on-screen guide. And it was really great with that group. And so those are some of the videos I've been slowly putting out. And I've been doing a lot about the Noah's Ark adventure with them. Cool. Very good. So one-word answer or maybe a sentence because I know we're going to get cut off here in about five minutes. But I wanted to ask you, have you in your archaeology or has any of your archaeology friends been digging out there ever find giant skeletons? One word or one-sentence answer? Yes. That's it. I would have expected you to say no. But really – It's a whole story. No, I have – let's see. There's at least two people I know from Turkey who have seen it. And I've seen photographs of one. I mean legit.
1:40:20 I've seen photographs. I can tell the story. And then Ron Wyatt claimed he had found some bones. I don't know if it was in Nevada. One was from there. But definitely one was from Turkey too that he had brought back. I don't know how. But it was back in the 80s. You can do that. Put giant bones in your leg. But they're like finger bones. Yeah. Clearly we got a lot to talk about. I actually do want to get you on here again. I want to talk all about that because I've seen pictures and I always thought they were photoshopped. And I didn't think that they were legit. But if there is some validity to these giant skulls – Like Noah's Ark? Well, no. Oh, the giants one. Yeah, the giants and the skulls and stuff. I'm not convinced that those are legit. But if there's some validity to them, I'm curious. And maybe those pictures themselves are not. But if you've seen something – There's some really fake ones that are like this huge, like 30-foot tall.
1:41:13 Yeah. But I am curious about that if you found any human bones. Like I'm sure there's big bones. But if you found anything human that has been bigger than eight feet. Yeah. So you asked if I knew somebody. And I said, well, I know of at least two from Turkey. Who in that area? Of the Noah's Ark site have seen giant skeletons. And the way the one guy described the skull that they had saw him in this one. Basically, a local came to an acquaintance of mine and said, hey, I have this giant – Like he had dug up – A lot of people there do grave robbery or looking for treasures. And so he dug up a giant skull. He showed it to this acquaintance of mine who was telling me this story.
1:42:05 This guy. And I then sent a photo to a friend in America, the guy who I first went to Turkey with. His name was Bill Fry. I mentioned earlier he had passed away. But he was from Florida. And – but when he died – so my friend – I don't know. They used Hotmail back then. But he can't find any email with the attachment. But he told me this story because the other guy is dead now, Bill. And so this other guy was telling me this story. And I said, well, give me access to your email. I can go maybe use my IT savvy and try to find it. But so far, nothing. But he was telling this story from – it happened around 2001. The area of this local – I don't know if it was a farmer or something who had dug up this burial.
1:42:55 It came from – is this area where Ron had his own story about a giant burial in that area. So before I tell Ron's story. So basically this one little valley. Everyone – like I know of like three different stories coming out of that valley of three different individuals who have giant stories. Two of them have seen it. One is just telling the story no matter what he saw. What happened involves thousands of dollars, then a missing skull, and then the guy denying he ever had the skull. Oh, my. Yeah, I'm telling you. Some of this stuff can be written in a book. Yeah, I'm very curious about this. I want to have you back. I think there's a lot of things we could talk about. It's pretty strange indeed, and let's go from there. Good to hear from you again, Andrew. This is really neat to catch up. All the way from California buddies to now we're across the nation and across the world.
1:43:49 So very cool. Out there in Cairo. Yeah. Can you have a little prayer to close us out? Sure, yes. Okay. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for this time where we can dig into these biblical stories. And even though the devil is trying to confuse people and throw out other things out there that will cause people to doubt the Bible, we know that the stories in the Bible are true. And I'm just thankful for Brad and what he's doing, sharing the truth on his channel. These strange things are going on in the world. Just bless him and his ministry and his family. And thank you for our time together that we can talk more about the Bible. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Andrew. We'll see you later. I hope you enjoyed that. I did. I thought it was interesting. We're going to have Andrew Jones on again because he is a very interesting character. He's done a lot of different things in the last few years that I haven't seen him.
1:44:50 And so it'd be interesting if you guys are interested in hearing more about that or if you have any comment on this whatsoever. Leave it in the comments. I'm interested. I do read those comments and it'd be fascinating to see what you think about this if you want to have more of this content and hear more from Andrew Jones. And if you do want to go on his tours or... Want to catch up and understand more about what he's talking about, you can reach him at Discovered Media on YouTube or Discovered Sinai. That's... Make sure you are using past tense. Discovered Sinai dot com. Discovered Media on YouTube. And of course, as always, if you are interested in continuing this conversation and helping us out, go to patreon.com slash strange normal. My name is Bradley and this has been Pure Strangeness. An absolute normalcy. Strange normal.
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