🚨The Soon RETURN of the Greek Gods? Disclosure Scheduled 👽🛸

0:02 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.

1:03 The mission of Inquisition. Our A-tip was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. Saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is.

1:55 He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic. And we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God, they always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky. And, and. Like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere.

2:53 And then they, on the morning, they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension, saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists. 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files, another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases. Whatever that means. Lou Elizondo. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the U.S. Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively.

3:48 I, uh, I started to have these follow on experiences. But the phenomenon that was like the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night because my job was classified and I had access to classified, um, I was kind of aware this was not a one off event for the Navy. This, uh, these things happen frequently all the time. They happen all the time. Barbara. Betholic. Whitley. Striever. Both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative. In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I, uh, was involved with occult practices.

5:02 For almost a full decade and, um, after my conversion, if you will, I felt it, I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a? To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding. Of ghosts, any, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy.

6:04 So we need to know what the truth is. What to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Right. And since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye-opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system.

6:56 It's different than a religion, but it's religious-like. What they're seeing in the sky today is what they believe to be advanced technology. Whereas a thousand years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel or maybe that's a demon. Today. They look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people. Almost like a religious conversion experience. It changes their worldview. It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally, completely changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. My name is Tom DeLonge.

7:51 Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term, the occult, is the most important thing. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term, the occult, is the most important thing. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term, the occult, is the most important thing. Because in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions.

8:44 and the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man, period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. We've passed the 11-minute mark. Now T-minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome. And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning.

9:39 But there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a re-reading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people who have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. Then terrorists would be identified.

10:40 Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. And the funniest one of all was against what he called alien. And over and over again, over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. Are there other religions, I'm curious, David, that you know of in all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea? Yeah, I would say there are. You know, Hindus and Buddhists, you know, Tibetans or whatnot, the idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that, I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs, particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition, they have UFOs.

11:40 UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, too, is that UFOs, UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years. Mormons as well believe in extraterrestrial life. And I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets. You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God. You are saying to the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S. government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone.

12:35 Absolutely. The data points empirically that we're not alone. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found after interviewing myself in the subjects and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant on who they were, they found my complaint urgent. They found my complaint urgent and credible for the Intelligence Committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence? While I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations, I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this.

13:32 You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we would like to say in our language. Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain, a certain location. Who in the government, either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, etc., do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals, uh, that were in those.

14:28 And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, uh, I think they are very real, but I think, what is your idea of reality? That's the question. You see that the DOD and NASA, even, they're all hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue. And that's not where the choice is. The truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, uh, philosophy, religious studies. Um, that's, that's where you're gonna find the truth of this. But I don't think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people called angels. I think they're messengers. I'm, I'm dying to know what they've got to say.

15:26 We're now passing the microphone to the next speaker. Passing the 4 minute 30 second mark in the countdown, still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high-powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says, we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And the priest, uh, told us, could I have a bit more of your time, I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says, the grand plan. For, for, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause, just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. And he said, it's gonna be done in a unique manner. This, this grand plan, he says, is, is gonna take people, people are gonna eat the stuff. Because he says, spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet, unless something seriously proper is done.

16:27 To avoid it. It was a big thing that, uh, was coming up. One of the, uh, major deceptions of the last days. Welcome, welcome. Man, it's gonna be a great show today. I'm gonna tell you exactly what we're gonna be reviewing as soon as this starts, and you're gonna be wanting to be here for that. Please, hit that like button. Hit that subscribe button if you're not already subscribed, and tell me where you're from in the chat. I'd love to hear from you. See you soon. T-minus three minutes and counting. T-minus three minutes and counting. T-3, we are go with all elements of the mission at this time. We've just passed the two-minute mark in the countdown.

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20:12 We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And there's going to be a lot going on, so hit that subscribe button, hit that little bell icon. So you're notified when things like this happen, because we've got current news up to the hour tonight, and you're going to want to be in the know on what's going on here. So, get this. Manipur, I'm going to say, I'm probably going to slaughter this name, Manipur Mphala Airport in India was shut down today because they were seeing giant white orbs above it. We're going to go into that first. News reports that the UFO retrieval program is credible, according to what David Grush was saying, they said they found credible evidence for that. A prominent UAP researcher says that these things are Greek gods that are coming back. We're going to dig into that and what that's all about tonight. And David Grush, the guy of the hour that has been talking about all this stuff, is saying that this is a scheduled disclosure.

21:13 Now, they're going to be revealing a lot more coming out. We want to be on the forefront of what is actually happening here and understand through the Bible, through the lens of the Bible, what's happening. What's actually going on. Because this is more than just a UFO show. This is a Bible prophecy show. But before we get into it, I want to introduce our guest tonight. Mikey! Man, it's good to see you again. Oh, wait. I don't have your mic turned on. Just a second. I forgot to tell you that Mike is hot during the intro, so I had to mute you. So, that's my bad. How are you? Doing awesome, man. Good to be on here with you again. It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's great. Great to have you back. And we're going to be talking some fascinating stuff tonight. So, I'm glad to get your input, especially about this Greek God thing that's happening here.

22:01 I've heard about this before, and I'm kind of excited to dig into what they're talking about here. And I'm going to keep an eye on the chat. It looks like we have kind of a light night tonight. We're three from hitting triple digits. Usually, we're hitting triple digits by now. Probably Thanksgiving weekend coming up here in the States. So, I look forward to digging in. But, you know what, Mikey? I want to dig into this one thing real quick. I didn't have this in my notes. Usually, I put this thing out so that people can see what we're going to be talking about ahead of time. But something came up on my phone just as I was leaving a renovation that we're doing down the road. And I was like, what in the world? And so, I thought, you know, usually I don't put things out. Immediately, I try to vet them out and see if this is just a fake thing that's going on.

22:53 But I Googled it nine hours ago. Things were going crazy. And every news outlet is hitting this right now. So, I want to kind of show, since in the news is usually first, what is this? Check this out. We're going to play a short piece of this clip and then go on to the next one. Here we go. On Sunday, one unidentified flying object. It was spotted over Imphal Airport around 2.30 p.m. What we are getting it from the sources in Imphal is CISF spotted this unidentified flying object. What is that? Over Imphal Airport. And then after that, till 5.30 p.m. to 6 p.m., all the flights, this entire airspace was shut. And all the flights, there were two to three flights.

23:47 They were suspended. They were not allowed to come. Over Imphal. What is this unidentified flying object? That is still not clear what we are getting it from the sources in airport and also from the forces that Indian Air Force and also the airport authorities and the CISF. They all are inquiring and they are doing an investigation in this matter that what is actually this unidentified flying object. Now, we know that Manipur anyway is a situation in Manipur. Has been, Manipur is a conflict area. Rather now, it is quite peaceful in comparison to what it was. Situation was bad four to five months back and it was a continuous conflict is going on in Manipur. All right, I'll pause it right there. I'll pause it right there for a second because she continues to go on and she seems like she gets tired of saying unidentified flying object over and over and over again.

24:44 But what I found interesting about that is number one is that thing hung out. Up there for like four hours in the same place. So it wasn't a balloon. It looks like the flights because of it. Yeah, and they scrambled jets. They said I have another clip coming up. I'm not sure if she said that or not. But what was she talking about? It's been chaotic for four or five months. Was that any relation to these things or so? I think so. And I'm not sure if she really pulled out the connection there. But that's what I was just going to say because they said this has been a conflict area. I'm not too familiar with the politics over there to be honest. I don't watch. I don't watch the news very much. But what I've noticed and what we've seen here on this channel is that these things like to hang out over war zones, over conflict areas where people are dying. And we've seen them in the Ukraine. They seem a lot in the Ukraine.

25:34 Iraq, they said lots of military say that. And especially they said they hang out where the testing areas are. This is what the U.S. people are saying. The testing areas. The testing stuff. The testing and when they test the newest technology of fighter jets and stuff. They hang out right at the points where they do the loops and around just kind of monitoring what's going on. We know it. It's like Satan and his demons just want to see like, ah, yes, we're making weapons of mass destruction. Like he gets off to it. He loves seeing humanity just get worse and worse and worse. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he loves death and destruction. That's what he does. He seeks to destroy. Murderer from the, what does the Bible say? He was the murderer from the beginning, right?

26:27 Murderer from the beginning. Yeah. So I think it's interesting that. Or liar from the beginning. Yeah. These things are just hanging out just to kind of monitor stuff. Maybe they are manipulating the people that are taking care of this stuff. I don't know. But there's something going on here where I like to say on here. If you. If you had something that was constantly in an area that had heavy conflict, that had lots of problems, and you had a lot of problems in this area, would you say that this thing was benevolent? And it must be a good thing trying to prevent stuff from happening. Yeah. Oh, they're watching because they want to help. Some of the really big ufologists, they love to say like, you know, we started seeing sightings when the first nuclear blast was blown up. And it's because. You know, these aliens were looking at Earth and they're like, oh, no, they're going to destroy themselves.

27:22 And they're actually coming to keep us from destroying ourselves. And that will probably be like the official narrative, you know, when they when there's finally contact and disclosure and all that, they're going to say, we've been watching you guys for a long time. And there's a lot of war and violence. And we're coming to help you to keep you from destroying yourselves. We need to actually unite together to save Earth. That's actually what Morneau said. Yeah. Exactly what's what's happening. And I have another clip from India real quick to show that this isn't. I mean, if you Google this, it's just all over the Indian news. But this is another clip that I just popped up in my feed. And I thought I'd show just this portion of it because he just goes on and on and on and on and loops about the same thing over and over again. But we're going to watch just a little bit of it. Where an unknown flying object was seen hovering high above the Bir Tehkendri Jeet International Airport in Nepal.

28:16 Now, two Indigo. Flights coming from Kolkata and Delhi were diverted. Now, flight operations have resumed. Now, this is as per the inputs that we're getting from the ground. And also what we are learning is that the Indian Air Force has activated the air defense systems nearby after the reports came in of this unidentified flying object above the International Airport in Imphal. That's what we are learning. This unidentified flying object has now disappeared as per the reports. But what we are learning is that. It was seen hovering above the International Airport in Imphal. And two flights, one coming in from Kolkata, one from Delhi, were diverted. Were diverted. And then the flight operations have now resumed. That's the latest. Wow. Really exciting. Especially that one. This is a worldwide phenomenon. It's interesting. I got a chance to share a UFO presentation in Bali.

29:17 Guatemala, a couple of months back, and it was a big event. I'm really like excited about how God orchestrated all that with the person who put on the event. But the people out there were saying, yeah, we don't we don't see anything about this in the news. Like they're not hearing about UFOs in the news. America is like on it, like we're pushing it hardcore. But even in India and places like that, they're starting to have to say something about it, because, I mean, when you have to shut down the airlines because of something strange in the sky, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. You're going to report something strange in the skies. You're going to report that. Yeah. Yeah. It's really fascinating what's going on right now. And so I think that it's going to be a global issue, even if it's just starting out in the U.S. here. In fact, we're going to go into what the Vatican says about it in just a second, too, because there's more information on that. I haven't even brought that out yet.

30:06 But before we do, there is another portion of the news that came out recently this week as I try to pull out just the stuff in the last week or two. That have happened instead of digging back into the past archives of old stuff. But this was interesting because they said that the crash retrieval program that David Grush talked about, I don't know if you've heard about that, has he said he was able to prove it. And he wrote a book about it. They were interviewing this guy. I'm going to show you this. Check this out. Hopefully this is this clip. Joining us right now with more of the best-selling author, Pulitzer Prize finalist, Garrett Graff. His new book is out. It's called UFO. The inside story of the U.S. government's search for alien life here and out there. And it just so happens it hits the stores tomorrow.

30:53 So congratulations on that. The idea that the U.S. government has a UFO crash retrieval program, that's actually quite true. We know that. One of the things I do in my book is I trace that back. It's actually existed for almost 100 years. It goes back to what was originally called the Foreign Technology Division at the Army Air Corps in World War I. It's a unit that goes around the world. And hoovers up sort of crashed UFOs, unknown flying objects. Right. But it doesn't mean there's alien bodies to be discovered. It doesn't necessarily mean that there are alien bodies. Right. I do believe also that that unit has likely recovered technology. It doesn't know what it is. One of the challenges, one of the questions that I have about David Grush's testimony, for instance, is when he talks about the government believing that it has recovered non-human technology. Is who is it?

31:46 Who believes that? Is that a member of this UFO crash retrieval program at ASEC, the Air and Space Intelligence Center in Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio? Or is that a broader conclusion, for instance, by multiple intelligence agencies with what the intelligence community would call high or medium confidence, which are sort of levels of belief and conclusion? Hmm. Levels of belief and conclusion. So they said they're not that absolutely sure that this is a... An ET retrieval program, which I think is legitimate because extraterrestrial means it's not from this world. And we're going to find out further on that even the people that are involved in these secret societies don't believe it's from extraterrestrial life. And they're saying that themselves. And so I think it's right on point.

32:40 Proof right here. They're saying, well, we don't know if it's from extraterrestrial life. But we know it is interesting. We don't know where it's from. Yeah. Those interviews with him and when they were asking about if it was alien or whatever, and he just kept saying like, well, I don't like to say that. It's just non-human intelligence. Non-human. We've been communicating with something that's not human. I mean, it's just right in your face. They're saying it without saying it. Whatever happened with the alien body from Mexico? Did you hear anything more about that? Yeah. And they're still harping about that. I haven't put much into the program about it because I'm just not convinced yet. I mean, it looks super fake. There's all these memes about it. But they did show x-rays that had like organs and stuff. Like eggs or something inside.

33:26 I don't know. They're claiming that they found a scientist and people are saying it's all from one organic thing. But then I found a video that shows that these things are pieced together and it's evident that it's from this bone and they compare it. So I'm not sure. We're still watching this carefully to try to figure out what's going on here. But it seems too bizarre even to talk about too much. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. I'm convinced that there's meat puppets out there that Satan is using. Yeah. And probably amalgamated beings, you know, genetically modified creatures. Mm-hmm. But, I mean, this was the Mexico government that was putting it out there, right?

34:19 It was. It came out during Congress. And so I'm wondering if Congress is a little less, I mean, because they're supposed to, I guess they have the same government as we do. They're kind of similar anyway. They check their government with a group of people just like we do. We call it Congress. But apparently their disclosure, that area that they did. Yeah. That they did this in was, I don't know if it was done by the government itself or if it was done from someone else. I'll check into that. But it's very strange what's going on. We live in the National Enquirer right now. That's what it feels like. Bat boy. We just need to go to the grocery store and we'll see our faces, I guess, in there. Yeah. This next clip is actually the same guy.

35:08 He's saying something interesting about politicians today and the reason why the government is not revealing this stuff. And I thought it would be good to keep abreast on what's being said in the news about this just for our own curiosity's sake. Check this out. My background is as a national security writer. I sort of have covered the war on terror, counterterrorism, cybersecurity, the American presidency, the Cold War. And there was a moment in 2020. When John Brennan gave an interview to an economist blogger named Tyler Cowen. Former CIA director. Former CIA director and former White House Homeland Security advisor. Where he says, effectively, there are things out there that puzzle us that we don't know what they are. And they may represent something that may be a different type of life.

36:03 And to me, you know, John Brennan had spent almost a decade at the table. At the top of the U.S. intelligence community. There can't be that many mysteries in John Brennan's life. If he wanted to know the answer to something, he was able to get it. So the fact that he's coming out of government and he's saying this stuff puzzles me, to me, says this is something worthy of diving into. So I think that the UFO phenomenon is real. The UAP phenomenon is real. There are things out there that we don't understand what they are. There are things that the government doesn't understand what they are. You know, I've spent the last two years sort of studying this for this book. I've spent 20 years covering national security. And to me, what is actually more interesting and troubling as a taxpayer and as a citizen, as a journalist in this space. Is I think that the government's cover-up at its core is not about its knowledge of UFOs.

37:00 But about its ignorance of UFOs. And that it does not actually know. What these things are. I was actually launched on this book project by an interview that John Brennan, a man you know, former CIA director, former White House Homeland Security Advisor, gave in December 2020, after his time in government. Where he said there are things we're flying around up there that puzzle us. That may end up constituting a phenomenon that looks to us like a new form of life. A terribly tortured syntax. But I think at the end of the day, John Brennan was telling the truth. That the government actually is as baffled about what this thing is as many of us are. I'm going to say, I'm going to add a little bit to that. I'm going to say portions of the government. Because the government's made up of many different people.

37:57 And perhaps the highest levels might know what's going on. Might not. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the dragon is going to deceive the entire world, including military governments and all that. He's going to make world leaders think that he's a being that they can trust and all that type of thing. So there may be really people in higher up places that really are deceived about this. They think, what are these things? Are they visitors from other worlds? And then I think there's other people that are like, we know exactly what's going on. And we're going to fight Christ. When he comes and all that. And speaking of those people that really know what's going on. There was, I don't know if you saw this clip. But there was a guy, and stop me if you have. Or maybe it's better I just rehearse it for anybody that hasn't heard about it. There was a guy that recently said his story.

38:54 He's a former, let me see if I can get his name right. Mike Herrera. He's a Marine. He was a Marine. And he talks about, very recently, like this year, he talked about for the first time his story in Indonesia. Where he, they found that Barack Obama, this was back in the day, was over there. And they had to extract him due to some things that were happening. And so he, you know what, let me just let him tell his story. Just for a recap real quick. And it's a fascinating story because he did a little drawing about it. And see what he says here. Now, during that operation in Quetzana in the Philippines, they had actually heard that a tsunami and earthquake hit the western part of Sumatra, which is western Indonesia, Padang City more specifically.

39:46 Out of all the ships in the 7th Fleet, the ship I was on was the only one that was routed to that location. So this happened September 30th. We're briefed that there is some of President Obama's family members that are present on either in the city or somewhere else. Okay. They were somewhere near there. They had a seal platoon that was ready to go to retrieve those people. We were then briefed that we were going to be armed during this operation. So they ended up selecting certain Marines to go ahead and do this. We were only in sticks of six, six Marines. So it had NCOs on top of other Marines to help with that. So we, again, boarded CH-53 Super Stallions, which are gigantic helicopters that are roughly 100 feet long. I love the design of them. It's my personal favorite.

40:32 But we ended up boarding this on the ship, and we flew to the southwestern part of the city, which is Padang. We got off the bird, and what we were instructed to do at that point through the briefing was to push to a high ground at least to get better observation. We trekked up about 300 meters. When we got to this high point, I was taking video camera, and I had actually turned to the north, which just kind of slopes down. And right there was something that stuck out like a sore thumb, especially with jungle terrain, things like that. It's always going to be basically imprisoned in my mind for the rest of my life, and it has been for 14 years. It was something that was rotating, and it was transitioning between colors like a light matte gray as well as a dark matte black. So in between, that's what it kept, and it was very smooth. We had all looked at each other as we got online, and we decided to investigate.

41:24 Once we got down this slope, we were approximately 150 meters away from this craft. So he goes on to talk a little bit more about this, and what he says about it was that it wasn't just him that saw it. Because we've seen where demonic entities can implant, almost give you ideas and stuff into your mind. He said this was something that everyone saw at the same time, and all of our guns were taken from us. They're Marines. And they said that people that took them from us were like shadow ops people. They didn't have a signature on the side. But they had all their gun material and everything they had, all their backpacks, their shoes, were government issued from the states. And so they said something else was going on here. And he says, they told me that they said, what are you doing here?

42:15 You're not supposed to be here. And then they sent them back. They said, we could kill you right now, but we want you to go back and tell no one about this. He said after he got back, he said he got back to his base. And he said all of his friends, his six friends that he was with, their cell phones were taken randomly. And they were brought into a room separately. And they were asked to sign this disclosure saying they wouldn't talk about anything like this. I mean, crazy stuff is going on. And I feel like a little bit of a conspiracist just talking about this. But it was a legitimate story that was happening. And so I thought it was interesting because he's come out and revealed a little bit more about what was going on here. So as I say, and now he's talking about it and he's not being killed. So you just wonder there's so much deception in the military. There's all this misinformation, disinformation that happened with William Cooper.

43:10 He, you know, he wrote Behold a Pale Horse and he was seeing all this stuff. He was being taken out on Navy ships and he was seeing UFOs fly at a thousand miles an hour, smash into the water and not make a splash like they just like crazy technology. And then he started exposing. And then he started exposing all that. And then he's like, wait a minute. This is they want me to expose this. They they were hoping that I would come out with all this because I'm a credible person and I'm saying all this. They want us to believe that this is real. That was what he said. And then he got killed for it. And now this guy is saying it wasn't supposed to say it and isn't being killed for it. Yeah. So I think they want this to be the official mindset of people. You're on the right track because we're going to find out more about that.

43:56 And just a couple clips. There is absolutely a they say a controlled and this has been going on since the 60s. I mean, even Tom DeLonge did a whole show on him last time. And he's he's been saying that this has been a controlled disclosure and he was trying to help with that. And so this whole thing. Let me show you what he said next, though. This was really fascinating. And this is what really perked my ears up is when he said when he started talking to the people. That were actually in the know about this stuff. After he came out with his story, he was able to reach out to some of these people. This is what he said. They said this is this is going to blow your mind. And one of the questions that I asked this these insiders, I said, what was the first thought that went through your mind when you saw this on full personal?

44:47 And what he explained to me was it confirmed that there was an afterlife to an extent that there's more to what they know. But it shows that there's a lot of truth. It shows that there's a lot of spiritual stuff involved, which reassured him. So maybe when I get to see a lot of this stuff more in person, he can probably elaborate on that. Or maybe I even interpret that with what I what I will see coming up soon. So the host, Chris Leto, who runs a podcast, he's a former military pilot. He didn't really dig any further into this. He probably didn't know where to go with that. But I would have just spent a half hour on what he just said there because he's he. Wow. What a thing to say when you're when you're talking about UFOs and all of a sudden you're like, yeah, well, the officials that know more about this, they confirm that there is an afterlife.

45:41 Now, now what I'm convinced of due to Joe Jordan's research and due to the stuff that we've seen on here is that these things love to pretend to be dead. Dead people. Yeah. And so they they and this is this is a part of the deception that's going to happen at the end. I don't think they even care if we know that they are fallen angels or that they want to pretend that they are the good. Pretend that they're the bad and try to convince you by bringing back your friends from heaven or whatever. And so what he said. Go ahead. Did he say he was saying what? What? He was saying what I'm about to see more of like he's he plans on being seeing more and exposing more. Let me see what he said. I thought he said something like, well, I have to ask them more about that.

46:33 Let me just play it real quick. Oh, but it shows that there's a lot of spiritual stuff involved, which reassured him. So maybe when I get to see a lot of this stuff more in person, he can probably elaborate on that. Or maybe I even interpret that with what I what I will see. Coming up soon. One of the questions that I ask. So I think I think that's what he meant. He was he wanted to elaborate on that further later on in a date. Is that what you got? It seemed like he said when he gets to see more soon, like he's going to. Is he still in the military? I mean, I don't know. I haven't finished watching this podcast. This was just something that stuck out to me and I was I'm going to dig into it more. We've talked about some of the stuff before that movie contact. Where she sees her dead husband or something from an alien.

47:24 Also, I've mentioned a movie called Starman that was same thing. An alien or a UFO crash landed in this woman's backyard. The alien was kind of like this, I don't know, spiritual blob or whatever that looked in her scrapbook, found a hair, a lock of hair from her dead husband. And right there on the floor, like evolved from an infant to her husband. And through the whole movie, she's hanging out with her dead husband, which is really an alien. So, I mean, this is kind of like predictive programming put through movies all this time telling us, yeah, if you see your dead loved one, it might be an alien. Not a ghost or it used to be when you saw a dead loved one, it was a ghost. Now it's like, oh, maybe it's actually an alien. There's some kind of integration now between alien visitors from another world and what happens when you die.

48:18 Yeah. Maybe die and become an alien. I don't know. Yeah. And I think absolutely they're going to try, they meaning these things out there that I believe are demonic entities. They're going to deceive us. That's what they're meant to do. And they're trying to, we as a society is trying to acquire the data so we can make sense of it. But you can't make sense of something that can change the data whenever it wants. They don't care what we believe as long as we don't believe the truth. Literally, like it's at that point. We believe, the majority of people believe that these are visitors from another world. Some believe they're these ancient gods or whatever. But like we are the minority who are saying they're demonic and they're trying to deceive the world just like the Bible says. Right. Like that's the minority opinion. It can be everything else but demonic.

49:09 And that's what Satan wants. Believe anything, just don't believe the truth. And you know someone who believes that that's a prominent ufologist? Jacques Vallee. Jacques Vallee. Let's dig into what he says about it real quick because I think there was a recent book came out called Cosmic Trigger. And it's by, if I can find it here. I didn't write it down. Well, it's by this guy. You'll see the actual picture of it here when I bring it up. I think Robert Wilson. That's not by Jacques Vallee? No, no. He talks about talking to Jacques Vallee and Tom DeLonge and all these other characters that are involved with this right now. And he says something very interesting. Watch this. And then Jacques Vallee arrived. I had wanted to talk to Dr. Vallee for several months now, and I immediately kidnapped him into a room which the other partygoers were not informed about.

50:00 On the way, we spotted Hymenaeus Alpha, Grady McMurdy, Caliph of the Ordo Templi Orientis, and his wife Phyllis. Tom, still giggling at inappropriate moments but no longer sure he was going mad, tagged along. The skeptic had heard Jacques Vallee talk at a conference on science and spirit sponsored by the Theosophical Society earlier in the year. Theosophical Society. He had taken a new approach to the UFO mystery and was systematically feeding all the reports of extraterrestrial contacts into a giant computer. The computer was programmed to look for various possible repeated patterns. Jacques said that the evidence emerging suggested to him that the UFOs weren't extraterrestrial at all, but that they seemed to be intelligent systems in the universe. Jacques said that they seemed to be intelligent systems intent on convincing us they were extraterrestrial. Now, the skeptic started pumping Jacques about his evidence that they weren't extraterrestrial. He started to explain that analyzing the reports chronologically, it appeared that they, whoever or whatever they are, always strive to give the impression that they are something the society they are visiting can understand.

51:07 In medieval sightings, he said, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In medieval sightings, he said, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. In the great 1902 flap in Syracuse, they called themselves angels. Since Venus has been examined and seems incapable of supporting life, they now say they are from another star system in the galaxy. Where do you think they come from, I asked. Dr. Vallée gave the Gallic form of the classic, scientific, not-speculating-beyond-the-data headshake. I can theorize and theorize endlessly, he said, but is it not better to just study the data more deeply and look for clues? You must have some personal hunch, I insisted. He gave in, gracefully. They relate to space-time in ways for which we have at present no concepts, he said.

52:00 They cannot explain to us because we are not ready to understand. What do you think of that? That is super interesting. How did you find that? So, that was found by a guy named Adrian. I'm trying to get him into the Discord because, man, he is on it. He's on Facebook and he friended me and he said, you've got to do it. You've got to do some research. You should look into this. And I'm trying to get him on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. He has a very interesting... I'm going to go off on a rabbit trail. I'm going to hold that. Anyway, what do you think about that? Yeah, so, I think Jacques Vallée, I like that dude. I like that he's open-minded enough to look at this as being a deception. Sure, he's not a Christian. He doesn't... But I think he's open to that.

52:51 I think he would be open to that if the evidence... or shown to him, he does understand that these are beings that are not what they say they are. And, dude, I've been trying... I've talked about this different times when we're on the show and I've tried to find the clip, but I remember a time when Grant Morrison, the comic writer guy, was giving a speech to a crowd of people on... There was a podium that he was standing at with a devil head was the logo and it was called Disinfo was the name of the... It was called Disinfo was the name of the conference he was at. And during it, he was saying, magic is real. He said, it's real. Like, you can write. He said, I talked to aliens and he said, you can talk to him anytime you want to. He said, you just, you know, you just want it. You will up. He didn't say the word pray, but you basically just think about that. You want to talk to him and communicate with him and they will show up. He's like, they will show up. And he says, and they taught him magic and they taught him that you write what you want.

53:53 Like law of attraction, whatever you want. Say it's a car. You take the consonants of the name of that car. You remove the vowels. You take those letters and you arrange them into some kind of symbol. The letters, you like stack them on top of each other, reverse them, whatever. And then like you write it on a piece. You draw that symbol on a piece of paper and like stick it in your shoe or something. And he's saying that these beings will appear anytime you want to talk to him. The magic is real. That it all works. And he says, you can do it. It works. And then he says, but these things are so deceptive. They just constantly lie and all that stuff. And this is somebody who's promoting the idea of talking to them. So we got to find that clip because. Yeah, that'd be interesting. And I'm not, I want to, I'm not laughing at what's going on here because it is a very serious topic.

54:43 I just got a message from a Patreon member that said that I was being too frat boy like about this or maybe just comical. It's a very serious issue, but putting it in your shoes just made me laugh, I guess. Yeah, I know. I think it's just, we don't really know how to handle some of this stuff. Sometimes you just hear things that are so extraordinary that your body just, its response is just a laugh because you don't even know how to, how to handle it, you know? Yeah. So we're not laughing because it's a funny matter. It's really just like, this is insane. Like we're really living in prophecy where demons are manifesting at us. We're manifesting as visitors from far distant galaxies and deceiving the world and it's happening right now and nobody can even see it. Right, right.

55:28 Yeah. I think it's absolutely nuts. Mind blown. I want to, I want to just real quick acknowledge Marbury. I think I said that right. I probably ruined it, but thank you so much for your super chat. We, that's how we exist and that's how, that's what we are doing right now because without you, without your support, we are nothing. I used to watch News Channel 8 when I was a kid. I was growing up and they'd say, this program is funded by people like you and that's kind of what we're doing here. We want to monitor this. We want to understand what's happening and to do that, we, we absolutely are pushing out this message and running ads and trying to get further up there because, you know, YouTube isn't friendly to a lot of UFO stuff. So appreciate your, your monetary support. They like UFO stuff if it's the right, if it's the right narrative. Right. I see plenty of Gaia commercials all day long. Right. You know, it's, it's, it's interesting because along the same line that we just, we're just talking about, there is a woman that came out of the book.

56:35 She's been in a lot of podcasts lately pushing her message and her name is Polska, Polska and D.W. Polska. And she wrote a new book called Encounters where she speaks with Jacques Vallee. And in speaking with him, he tells her to understand this better, you might need to look in a certain place. That place was fascinating. Watch, watch what she says here. My friends asked me about my lunch with Jacques. On the surface of it, I had a nice lunch and we enjoyed friendly conversation. We all thought I was there to discuss the topic of UFOs. Instead, I was encouraged to read up on angels and fallen angels. Whoa.

57:21 Okay. Whoa, bro. So this is recent. Jacques Vallee's one of that? Yeah. This is a recent thing because she's, she's, I mean, she's brand new, well, not brand new into this, but she's been writing a new book recently. So this is her new book, Encounters. And she's not, as far as I know, I think she came up in the Catholic faith or, or something like that. She talks a little bit about it. I'm going to dig further into this. But actually, I, a friend, our friend, Adrian. Adrian has a whole spiel he's going through right now with Paul's guy, kind of digging through her stuff. And it's, it'd be very interesting to, to find out what he has to say about this because she, I mean, they're, they're on the right track. And so this, this is fascinating to me, Mikey, because why is this not being hidden? You know, this is something that I thought this channel would bring out and we'd be like, oh, look, we've exposed the demons. And, and, and it sounds like there's an agenda here to reveal that they want to be the good guys and the bad guys.

58:25 And there's going to be demonic activity. And that's what I see coming down the line here, because they're not trying to hide it for people that are really looking. So these aliens might eventually say that they are angels, but they'll say that they're the good angels? That's what I think. I mean, you see these ideas. That's... It definitely happened in the New Age world. I talked to the, you know, all these, I hear New Agers all the time say, I was talking to Michael and Gabriel and all these ascended masters and stuff. Yeah. They believe they're talking to angels. I do. That's, that's what, yeah, that's what they believe. And I think that's going to happen because how, how else is, I mean, Satan wants to be worshiped as Christ. And we know in Bible prophecy, he's going to say Jesus Christ is, I am Jesus Christ.

59:16 That's what he's going to say. And if he's going to do that, he's got to fulfill prophecy, which is destroy the dragon, destroy or get rid of the antichrist. And how is he going to do that without an antichrist, if he is the antichrist? So he's got to play both sides on this somehow. That's what I see coming down the line. I'm going to try to pick that out a little further. But the fact that they're not trying to hide that they are demonic, that this whole thing is aliens could be demonic. As well tells me that, you know, his, his kingdom is not, is, is, is at war with itself because everyone is do what they wilt. And so, so why not just, you know, play into that? If you guys don't want to come into the order, Satan's order, and just want to do what you want, well, then you guys can play antichrist. It will defeat you.

1:00:09 I don't know. This is probably pure speculation, but it seems interesting. But unless you have another thing to say, I'm going to dig further into what Poleska says about this real quick. Yeah, go for it. So this is from the That UFO podcast. It's a very popular podcast on YouTube for UFOlogy. It's called That UFO podcast? Yeah, it's called That UFO podcast. And DW, and I'm not, I'm not promoting these things. I just want people that have been saying, hey, what is that? Let's witness to them. Maybe we can go in their comments and do that. So I'm not saying, hey, go to these places. I'm saying these are the references. So, you know, I'm not just pulling this out of the air. But this is, this is fascinating. This guy has a very thick accent.

1:00:56 So listen very carefully. But it's an interesting four minutes. Here we go. I'm very much looking forward to speaking to my guest. She is a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina. Also an author of several books, including Heaven Can Wait. The Ever Popular. American Cosmic. And now her latest release, Encounters, Explorations with UFOs, Dreams, Angels, AI, and Other Dimensions. Making her second appearance on the podcast. I'd like to welcome Professor Diana Walsh-Pusulka. Diana, welcome back to the podcast. So on that, within those chapters, not to go into all the detail, but to tease it, St. Michael comes up, a symbol of protection. And you begin to notice yourself, various symbols coming up after initial conversation.

1:01:43 With the gray man, who in turn has his own epiphany of sorts. And I want to ask two questions off the back of that, Diana. First one, what's your take on the idea that old religious ideas of angels, demons, and such, were real entities who over time have just been cataloged differently in different texts and scriptures? And a little spoiler alert, but at the end of Tom DeLonge's Secret Machines Book One, it very much ends with the line, and if you want to skip 10 seconds, if you've not read it, folks, that the Greek gods never left the earth, and essentially this is what we're seeing now. You know, what are your thoughts on that idea? Okay, so I didn't know that about Tom DeLonge's book, and that's really interesting, because I actually did give a talk on the Greek gods and the muses in New York City a couple of weeks ago. And I didn't want that talk, they were going to videotape it and post it, and I didn't want them to do that.

1:02:42 And thankfully they didn't. And part of the reason was because it appears that it's absolutely true that the Greek gods have never left in a very real way. There's, especially in the space industries, you know, there's a lot of what I would call rituals and forms of almost worship to these, you know, these gods. So. Okay. That said. What? You know, I think that people who are of various religions would object to that idea. And they would say, you know, you have Augustine, who's an early Christian, who writes a lot about Christianity. And he basically says, in the past, we had the myths, right? And now we have real religion, right? These are real entities that we're worshiping. Okay. And of course, a lot of people could say, you know, that's just idiosyncratic.

1:03:47 You know, you just think that because you believe this, that they didn't exist. Because certainly the Greeks in the fifth century certainly believed in, you know, their gods and goddesses. But there were, you know, people like Plato and Socrates would say similar things, too. That, you know, these are myths and we don't believe them. But then again, they would have their own idea of the good, which was a mystical, you know, thing of truth and beauty. So I guess, you know, so everyone has their own claim on what is a god and what is not a god. You know, what's a deity and what's not a deity. And so, yeah. So I think that with respect to UFOs, we can't get away from interfacing with things that people would consider, you know, even Steven Dick says this in his essay, which, by the way, I should send to you so that you might post it for your listeners.

1:04:50 Yeah, please. He is updating it, by the way, just so you know. It was written 20 years ago, but it's really appropriate for today. He basically says that the AI that we might meet as ET is going to appear so powerful as to be like, you know, something like a deity. Right. There's so much we could talk about in there. Whoa. I agree with that stuff, though. It's like, so hear me out. So all through history, people have had these different gods and their beings from the stars, Mercury, Mars and all that. And that's what these beings are. We see things flying over the sky and they're supposed to be beings from other galaxies, from the stars. And they perform miracles. And that's what the Bible says, that in the latter days, people, many are going to fall from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons.

1:05:48 And they're going to be falling for these signs and lying wonders, that there's going to be miracle working demons presenting themselves before the world. And they're going to be gods because they, you know, they perform miracles and they come from out there. Even the great controversy. It talks about that. In the last days. There's going to be heathen deities that are going to manifest and pray themselves over the cities of the world. We're seeing it today. So, yeah, it sounds strange to be like other Greek gods or whatever, but we know that Greek gods are literally just demons. Right. The Bible says that they were offering up sacrifices to idols, which were just demons. That's right. That's right. That's right. I should have pulled that verse up. I wonder where that is. I actually have that in a list in a Bible study.

1:06:36 While I'm looking for that, I think we should dig into that a little further because, oh, you know what? Before we do that even, let me see what I'm on. Right now I'm on clip seven. Just remember that. It's an easy number to remember. Okay. Perfect number seven. I didn't want to go too far out from Jacques Vallee without showing this. This was interesting. Oh, I can't see it. It's too small. It's too small on my screen. Can you read that? I see Jacques Vallee attended a Crowleymas party. What? So, Aleister Crowley Christmas party, I guess. Yeah. Party for Aleister Crowley's birthday with Robert Anton Wilson. It says, is as likely to be a dangerous kook as a high adept.

1:07:30 In attendance at the Crowleymas party were Grady, McMurray, and Euphrates. And Ufologist Jacques Vallee, the real life model for the character portrayed by Frenk Kuis Truffont in Steven Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Wilson asked Vallee about the origin of the UFOs and received an interesting response, Vallee believed that the UFOs aren't extraterrestrial but were terrestrial beings, and that they could create the place where they were, and so, it's a long story. terrestrial beings intent but we're but we're terrestrial beings intent on convincing humanity that they were extraterrestrial they relate this is a quote they relate to space time and ways for which we have at and then it kind of cuts off cuts off yeah so it's interesting that uh jacques valet was actually at crowley's birthday party that's super weird uh-huh and now the go for it the clip i had seen of jacques valet the first time i had ever seen him he was talking about he had a book called messengers of deception and he was being interviewed by a guy about that book and and he was saying well the interviewer was saying basically what's in the book is that these beings are trying to create a mythology about themselves that they are actually visitors from a far distant galaxy that that's that's the mythology that they're creating about themselves because they know that they're interdimensional beings from heaven who have been cast to earth and they're stuck here but they're they're creating this lie about themselves and so he believes that he believes that these are deceiving beings and that he said that he believes there's something if he finds out that they're just visitors from another world that it would be kind of uh a letdown for him because he believes there's something more interesting such as interdimensional beings that's right that's right that's what he says that is fascinating and and going off the same idea about this being a very uh gnostic uh theme to it david grutch actually interviewed with an obscure newspaper that i still haven't gotten my hands on but uh it was a monthly newspaper that comes out only in several different cities and so we got a clip from it uh that someone sent in and i thought this would be interesting i figured out how to actually see this closer so i can read it this time um i think i can anyway there we go so uh ignore the the red part for a second i'm going to read up so i get some context when i ventured a theory that knowledge of its secrets might introduce an insight in insiders over time a state of cultic grandiosity grutch says i'm on to something he says the person that's talking he says you're on to something he's describing a gnostic streak in a certain in certain initiatives we are the gatekeepers they think in other words the government there are also people now listen to this there are also people of fundamentalists religious views who regard the matter with spiritual horror and would rather it never see the light of day obviously there are some who are going to think these non-human intelligences are extensions of demonic principalities well i'll just put it out there i know so i i think everyone's kind of cute cute cute in cute in to this because uh and they're just not really saying much about it yet but this like i said like we said in our documentaries that that this is going to be uh a religious war over this stuff this is going to be an absolute i mean it just hasn't broke out yet we're going to see some crazy stuff so it seems like they're i don't know man so it's hard to it's really hard to follow which direction it's going because i want to say that they're trying to make religious fundamentalists all right let's uh sorry look like ignorant kooks who are out of touch and or whatever but then at the same time like what you're saying like they're almost alluding to that they are angelic right so yeah it's really weird it's hard to follow well and i think the reason is is that that's going to be the the introduction they're going to push into this um in order to for satan to appear as as jesus as god he's got to talk about religion somewhere and he's got to be like well actually this does integrate somewhere and it's got to change hands

1:12:11 from little green men to delightful angelic beings and i think that's where we get the idea of these little grays and then also the ets are these nordic uh angelic angelic looking uh beautiful tall uh aliens that by the way are them yeah they're the only ones that are clothed even so right i don't know i think something's going on here and uh it's going to switch yeah i my thought was kind of like that jesus or satan's going to appear as jesus coming out of a ufo and he's going to be like yeah you know i i just ascended back to my mother's ship when they watched me go up in a cloud and all that and now i'm back you know and same with enoch and elijah you know he's taken up in a chariot of fire that was actually a ufo abduction and because of time and space you know i'm still alive and i'm i look the same age because out there you don't age and all this stuff you know yeah and when it says actually in revelation his his hair is white as snow right i think anyway that's that's going to look like that yeah he's but he's going to appear as if what we think he's going to supposed to look like and so i just use everyone um let's dig into this uh this next podcast where uh pauluska also talks a little bit about um uh jack valet this is from the concrete podcast um and he talks about some bizarre things on here um watch watch this talk about jacques valet so there's a chapter in your book where you mention what i think was one of the most fascinating parts that stuck out to me the most was you go to his apartment in northern california can you describe what happened there his he has a beautiful apartment and has a amazing view of san francisco and so we were in his apartment and he showed me the um his library which is really amazing and he had a lot of you know historical things from the history of ufology in the united states and things from uh you know european catholic history like um looked like extent you know copies of books about angels and things like that so it was it was amazing and things that belonged to alan hynek and things like that and you you were shocked i think to see all of the books that he had on on angels that were in his library i was would you ask him about that what did he say about that um so in the library uh we he showed me a lot of books about you know like like i said the history of ufology like you know historical stuff from project blue book right that's the kind of stuff that i would expect to see in jacques valet's library it's really interesting and so but the most of the library was dedicated to these very old books of um of angels and so he took out a couple and he showed them to me and he had a whole row of angels and a whole row of like fallen angels type thing and he made some jokes about it you know well if you have one you have to have the other kind of thing and he gave you a book at the end of your meeting with him that day what was this book um okay so book on the devil well well it was a history of satan okay and it was um it was done by these carmelite nuns and so he gave me the book and he said you should try to acquire this book it's really good and i looked at it and then the paging on it was really interesting it was the the last page was six six six so he laughed and said they had a sense of humor you know and so yeah that was at the time i was really shocked by that and um and thought it was what you know so it took me a while to actually talk to him about it because i thought how do you ask somebody about this right so i did ask him and he said that um you know and he's right so the way we see he was basically suggesting it because of the ways in which you know how the ways in which the ufo are made to look kind of

1:16:54 a certain way but when you look into it they look different so i thought well let's look at it and And the same way with religious traditions, like Teresa of Avila's experience with the little angel. If you look at pictures and paintings from that and the statue of that, it looks very different than the primary source material. Okay. Like the description that she actually gave when she wrote it. Yeah. It looks completely different than what you call it telephone game. Right. Yeah. So there's telephone game in texts too. Right. And in representations of spiritual experiences. So basically he was saying that, that if you look at the history of this person, you know, well, not person with his being, that it's going to look completely different. And the people that did the best biography are these Carmelite nuns who had access to all of the primary source material.

1:17:47 Did you read the book? So I did look for the book. And I didn't. I didn't do a hard search for it because I was so busy. Right. I haven't been able to, but I do want to acquire the book. Absolutely. So no, I have not read it. But, you know, his work is basically to look at these texts, just like my work is to look at the primary sources and to create his own understanding of it instead of looking at what people say about these primary sources. So that's the work he was trying to do with that book and why he gave it to me. I think he also gave it to me because I'm not sure. He's funny. He's got a good sense of humor. Uh-huh. He's funny. He's funny. He may have been trying to kind of shock me. I don't know. But it was pretty funny at the time. Okay. We're going to pause right there for just for a second because we got one more clip from her. But so more evidence that these things are that he's convinced that he needs to read more up on angelic entities, which I find fascinating. He's reading from a Catholic point of view on this because. Right. I just think it's interesting that they're having a conversation about.

1:18:51 Well, is she from a UFO podcast or something? She does. She's a writer. And so she's got a number of different podcasts because she. Okay. So in that show, the topic was about UFOs and Jacques Vallee and all that. But when as soon as the idea of angels got brought up, they're like angels, like, you know, it's like people just blow that off. Like, it's ridiculous. Like angels. No, there's aliens. But angels. Come on now. It's so weird that that's how the mindset. When it was not like that back in the I remember I saw a black and white video of a guy walking around interviewing people on the street, asking if they believed in aliens or UFOs. They're like, no, man, that's like science fiction. But those same people you would have asked, do you believe in God? Oh, yeah, I believe the Bible. I'm Christian and all that. There's been a major shift in our lifetime. We were born in the same year. Me and you were born in 83. I remember when I was growing up, you could ask pretty much anybody.

1:19:50 Do you believe in? God? Yes. Are you going to go to heaven when you die? Yes. They could be drinking a beer, smoking a cigarette, cussing or whatever, but they're going to go to heaven. And, you know, and and the majority of the mindset back then was if you're a Christian, you're you can trust that person. They're kind of a respectable person. But now and in a mere 20, 30 years, it's like if you're a Christian, you're a bigot, you hate people, you're a hater. I know you're ignorant. And yet and try to think through everyone's everyone's feelings in order to to talk nowadays. And so those same people, if the mindset was majority Christian and aliens were kind of sci fi and stuff. Now we're at the complete flip. Like, of course, aliens are real. You'd be ignorant not to believe that. What about what about the Bible and angels? No, that's ridiculous.

1:20:43 That's an old, you know, archaic mindset or something. And it just happened in like 30 years, bro. Like the whole mindset flipped. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One hundred percent. And and and speaking of the mindset flipped, who did that? Probably the devil. And he's working on us right now. Speaking of the devil. I love to pervert everything. Yeah. Speaking of that. Changes. Speaking of the devil. You know, that whole phrase is actually speak of the devil and the devil shall appear. So whenever you ever see here, someone say speak of the devil. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want you want that. I never. I never heard the ending of that. Yeah. So is is the devil real? This is this is where they go into that podcast. This is the last three minutes of that clip. Check this out. I'm sure you've done a lot of I'm just interested in this because I'm interested in the devil personally.

1:21:36 OK. And one of the famous quotes, I wrote it down here. One of the the old sayings that I love is the devil has always been the church's best friend because he kept him in business. You've heard that, I'm sure. Yes. And I had a guy. I had a guy on here recently who was teaching me all about the devil. He did a little documentary on the history of Lucifer. And he basically said that Lucifer was never real. Well, I mean, that's like saying God has never been real. Right. So we can't actually prove the existence of the beings that people believe in. OK. There's no microscope. OK. This being exists. Right. Which is kind of an interesting critique of religion because there's a lot of things we can't actually prove. Existence of like when we tried to prove the existence of atoms, you know, they kind of go around.

1:22:24 Electrons move in different directions. And, you know, so scientists even have a hard time proving what they believe to be like real kinds of things. OK. So. All right. So as a person who studies religion, when you start to look at the ways in which either Satan and there is a named Satan in the Bible, which is the hebrew bible christian old testament and new testament right so um and lucifer so you look at these you see that the bible's created um it's basically a bunch of different books put together and they're written by different people over many many years hundreds of years okay okay so the the depictions of like the satan in the book of job for example looks to be like you know he's kind of like a friend of god right so if you look at that depiction of satan and then you look at the depiction of satan and other texts in the bible they look to be terrible or something completely different than that so there's no it doesn't look like there's like a cohesive right person or entity that's satan now in terms of the unreality of it i would say that if you're looking at a cohesive person you know or a cohesive entity called satan it's not cohesive within the bible you're not going to see that but if you look at it within the various traditions that discuss this person or assume it and you know in various denominations of christianity satan exists or doesn't exist so you know there are some denominations that don't talk about satan even certain factions of one denomination that will talk about satan or not talk about satan so yeah that would be my my answer i think uh james fox's creature in virginia could have been satan yeah so when you yeah exactly that's my point is that you have descriptions of weird things like that and then people ascribe it to satan they say this must be satan or this must be satan or this must be satan or this must be satan or this must be satan or this must be satan or this must be a demon or something like that and you still have that within catholic cultures if you have a ufo sighting and there happens to be the smell of sulfur and you know these beings that look like this i there's a lot to talk about there i've often heard does she really study the bible i know and so that was interesting you should even say that because um uh our our uh our friend uh my friend i don't know if you're friends with him on facebook um let's see if i can find it people are just blowing up the chat because of that right now so i think i'll let you know what's coming up next!

1:25:12 I lost it. A friend of God. Satan was a friend of God during Job. You mean when he was asking if he could hurt Job? No, no, no. I was saying our Raelian friend, the Anderitas. He watches the show every once in a while. He's a friend of mine on Facebook. Hello. How are you doing, buddy? It's very interesting. He actually knows who this woman is. I'm glad you looked her up. He says, Pauluska is a Catholic. She is a chairman of the religion at North Carolina University. So she is more than just a writer. I'm glad you brought that out. That is interesting that she's chairman of religion and she doesn't believe that there's a cohesion between Satan and the Bible. So let me dig into that real quick because I know you probably want to speak on that too.

1:26:05 But when I was working at a Bible Answers. program, audio program, that is a global system run by a company called Amazing Facts, often we'd get a question at the beginning of the year saying, because people are beginning to read the Bible and they're getting through this thing, and they're saying, why is it that the God of the Bible is different from the New Testament to the Old Testament? And so now you're seeing the opposite. They're saying, why is it that Satan is different? Why is it that Satan is different in some texts and in others? So I don't believe there's any disconnect there because, let me answer the first one, God, loving God, you get the same text, love one another from the Old Testament that you hear in the New Testament so much. And in the New Testament, you got some of the worst curses known to man said in Revelation, which is still the New Testament. So it's the same God that's going on here. These curses are because of Satan. It's what we've chosen to do. And at the same time, Satan, just in Job right there, is, why can't he still, in that short span, because Job is known to be one of the first books ever written, even.

1:27:26 And yeah, and the conflict between God and Satan is ramping up, and they're still in a judicial type system where nothing is... is completely proven yet, because they're going through and trying things on Job, who is on earth right now. And so just because they're talking doesn't mean that they hate each other, and doesn't mean that there's anger between them. Right now, Satan, the Bible says, Satan knows his time is short, and so he's going out like a dragon. He knows the chess game's over, and so he's just angry, but he's still held in check by God. And so, yeah, there's... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's more emotion of him today than there was yesterday. It doesn't make him a different person. Anyway, rant over, but what do you think about that? No, I... So maybe you're agreeing with her. I was thinking when she said...

1:28:22 I don't agree. I don't agree that she... I don't agree that she thinks... Because she thinks there's two different personalities of Satan in the Bible, right? I don't mean to agree with all that, but like she said in the book of Job, Satan's talking to God like he's his friend. But I... I very much believe that he was already, you know, cast out of heaven. He had already deceived Eve. He's not a friend of God by any means. He's like, hey, let me, you know, let me hurt Job and I'll curse you to your face, you know? How is she reading that and thinking, oh, this is a friend of God? Yeah, no, I agree with you. And I think that God treats everyone with the same love, even the ones that disrespect him and the ones that don't want to have anything to do with him. And so that's what I was saying. It's not necessarily that they're buddy-buddy anymore, although he was a covering cherub, one of the closest to God.

1:29:18 Oh, yeah. That's how it was. But it's a sad... It's a really sad story. And you know what? There's a good book. Don't read the Catholic books on this, because they don't really have a good idea of what's going on, I don't think. There's a book called The Great Controversy Between God and Satan. Oh, yeah. And The Great Controversy is the book that spans the... The Great Controversy. Down the time of history, even into what's going to happen here in the next couple years, I believe, that we... If you do read it, I recommend... A lot of people say start in a later chapter. The beginning is kind of like a lot of history of the church, and if you're not into that... But I hear... Do you know what chapter they say to start in? Like, it's later down, but there's some really interesting stuff in there about how Satan's going to deceive the world and things like that. But I picked up a book that was... Portions of that book.

1:30:10 It was a small book called A Great Hope, and the first page said, why is there suffering? And I was like, that's a good question. That's a question I've had that I haven't got good answers from Christians about, and I'd never heard any Christian break it down in such a rational, logical understanding that we are going through this pain of this life because of our own choices. God loves us so much. He doesn't want robots. He's saying, I'm giving you the gift of choice, and because of all these choices that we've made, that's why we are living, and that's why we're having suffering. That's why you don't blame God because somebody raped somebody else. That's not God's fault. That's the choice of that person. You could look at, why is there starvation on other sides of the world? Well, because there's a lot of people here that could literally afford to cure world hunger. I mean, you know, the greed of man isn't going to help.

1:31:10 You know, if we really treated everybody like our brothers and fed the orphans and the widows, we wouldn't be in this mess we're in. But basically, when we get to eternity, we could never say, what if God is keeping something good from us? What if his laws are just trying to keep us down because we'll always get to replay Earth's history and be like, no, this is what it's like when you do it your own way. Remember Holocaust and prostitution and addiction. That's what it was like. When you try to your own way, we'll be like, oh, yeah, I never want to experience that again. And so we're really learning the hard way that God's laws are perfect and holy and just and they're not to keep anything good from us. And that book really breaks that down a lot and even talks about how God pled with Satan to don't do this.

1:31:59 I'll give you a chance. Repent, you know. And that just made Satan angrier, like, nope, I'm going to prove you wrong or whatever. In fact, that's a good plug. If anybody's interested in getting that book, I'll give it to them free if you send me an email. So I think it'd be really interesting if you were fascinated by finding out exactly what's going on and more about what's happening in the future. The Great Controversy book is a great book. So email me and I'll put my email address in the first comment. I'll pin it so that you can get that. Brad Burnham at? Protonmail.com. Okay, so let's, this last section, let's dig into it real quick. And then I know you want to go to bed. I want to go to bed. But this is a fascinating thing.

1:32:49 And so LeBlaze interviewed a writer. Glenn Beck. Yeah, Glenn. Yeah, it wasn't actually Glenn Beck that was interviewing him this time, though. But it was, he interviewed a writer called Walter Kim, who spent some time with David Grush. And he talks a little bit about the spirits of E.T. in the Disclosure Schedule. Listen to this. Let's talk about this UFO whistleblower. I mean, there's so much content swarming out there. It wasn't that long ago when it was the freaks who wanted to believe in the UFOs. And now it's the government that wants you to believe in the UFOs. It's very difficult for even someone, you know, whose job it is to kind of track this stuff, to separate out, to come up with. Any kind of coherent mental map to make sense of what's real and what's not. What's your experience been with this whistleblower guy?

1:33:44 And I don't know, what advice can you give to Americans trying to dare to understand what's happening? So I spent 10 hours with him in Colorado, deep in conversation, met his wife, found him very compelling, impressive, intelligent. He's a 36-year-old guy who has served at the highest level. He's been doing a lot of research about the history of the UFOs, and he's testified before the U.S. He's also been in the U.S. He's been in the U.S. He's been in the U.S. He's testified at several levels of military intelligence, briefed presidents. He's testified before Congress. And his story is that he did an interdepartmental investigation of the UFO phenomena. Because he had so many clearances, he was able to go here and there throughout the government, throughout the military, throughout the intelligence world, and find out what was going on.

1:34:36 And he did that. And his conclusion was that we had all these craft hidden away, that there's been a craft retrieval program that's gone on, you know, since actually the 1930s. That there are even bodies that have been recovered, that there may be some forms of agreement between our government and these other non-human intelligences, NHIs, that's the new word. And so he told me this whole story, a lot of it off the record. And I came away feeling like somebody had thrown a sort of mind grenade into my skull. Because it's a reality-melting prospect that there are other forms of life, some of them supposedly interdimensional, non-corporeal, a lot more like spirits maybe than E.T., that we've known about this, that we've put our sort of best defense contractors on the problem of exploiting the technology.

1:35:51 And possibilities that have been introduced by their presence. And there's a promise that we'll get to know more. I mean, there always is with UFOs. We are always a year away from the big reveal. But he assured me that that reveal is kind of got a schedule now. And in the next year will be accelerated in a way that the whole world will find astonishing. And if there were any skeptics ever, skeptics of the Bible, they should know that prophecy is true. Like we have the military saying we are in communication with spiritual non-human intelligences and we're working with them. Dude, that's what the Bible literally says. Like, oh, my goodness, that we've battled not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places and high places.

1:36:54 Like they are, Satan is working with the governments of the world. And that's what we see happening and being admitted on national television by the government, by the military. And yet people can't see it. I don't know. The Christians and the military are speaking the exact same language, just using different terminology. Yes. And so that's what it is. It's spiritualism. And they actually admit it. They said we can't tell if this is coming from. Outer space. But we certainly know that this is here on Earth right now. And I don't think we want to donate. Don't donate. Not donate. Denote. There we go. Denote origin is what I think David Gresh said. And this is this is going to grow even more intense.

1:37:43 They said that this is what this guy says. This is amazing because he's even talking to David Gresh. Right. So he says that he knows that this is going to be a rollout because what Hollywood's. Doing. Check this out. No way. So what do I think of it all? Well, because I can't see any evidence of it, except in his narration of the thing and, you know, his assurances that various things exist, I can't, you know, I can't handicap the likelihood that we're all going to be convinced of this. But I will tell you that. The information operation, whether or not it's backed by real craft and so on, is serious, very serious, and it's going to grow more intense.

1:38:39 And, you know, you've already seen Steven Spielberg has a UFO documentary, I think, on Netflix. I think there's another series being contemplated or imprinted. I think there's going to be an introduction about some of the first abduct abductees and so they're going to roll this out and whatever the truth is and whatever the actual nature of the of the phenomena, you're going to have to deal with it. You're going to be asked to believe and you're going to be asked to believe by our authorities. You know, they they they act as though they're all in conflict. Like they're. Some there there are some parties that want to get out the truth and there are others that are stopping them, and that drama adds interest.

1:39:33 But my sense of it is that there's kind of a consensus at some level about rolling out more of this and the theater is a little distracting. The powers that be have decided we should know more. Dude, he's telling it like that's exactly what I've been. Thinking this whole time, too, like that they've been purposely leaking because when I got sucked in all this junk my whole life as a elementary school and on through the high school years, and then even as a Christian, believing that God sent aliens to help Moses out of the wilderness and all that junk that ancient aliens teaches, I fell for this. The reason I was so. The reason I believed so much was because. I was the one that was seeing like the alien autopsy on TV and I was like, oh, it got leaked out, you know, and and I was seeing all this stuff, these little leaks, but they're doing that on purpose.

1:40:37 They're the ones that are leaking it. It wasn't leaked by somebody wasn't supposed to be leaked by the leaked by the controllers who want you to believe, look, it's real. You know, you're on to something making you feel like you have the power and you're finding it out and you're figuring it all out. And that's where they want you. Like they want to get the people to the point where they're saying, let us know the truth. We know you're hiding it from us. That's all this controlled information that's coming out. Right, right. Yeah. Someone someone asking the chat. They said, who is this guy? Well, it's Walter Kim is his name and he's a writer. The Blaze is interviewing him. He's probably recently got a book out. I haven't seen the entire clip yet. So that's all I know is his name is Walter Kim. If you want to look him up a little bit further. But. Let's go into this, this, this last clip here.

1:41:29 Usually I don't say that. Ah, I said it anyway. But this last clip I want to I want to show you. But before we do that, I want to appeal to everyone out there. We do this and it is a lot of work. I probably put about a day's worth of work into each podcast that we do just research and try to figure it out. So if you think this is a worthy cause, if you found value in this, consider joining our Patreon. Patreon.com. Slash. Strange normal. And you can also be part of our private community, which is on discord. And you can access that through Patreon.com. Slash. Strange normal. Um, uh, Mikey, I got to get you back in there. That's, that's a, it's a fun place. I know, man. Yeah. It's really where, um, actually the community is actually able to help you stay on top of things too, because you can only look at so much, man, like you're one person, but you got a whole community of the.

1:42:24 Uh, synergy people there, the strange normal research group that are out there giving you stuff and that ends up on the show. So really you're as a patron donor, you're supporting, keeping the channel up. You're helping get information out there, which is helping expose, uh, the deception that's coming upon the whole world. So it's a really great investment. Very good. Yeah. Very, very good. And so, uh, I encourage anybody that finds value in this. Help us out. Patreon.com slash strange normal. Now, all right, let's go on to the next clip here. Uh, this is, um, is this a government issued fairy tale? That's what this guy's asking. I think he's onto something. Watch this. Um, what if it's all a fairy tale? What if it's the, you know, what if this is the first, you know, government issued fairy tale? Uh, I mean, I wouldn't be the first, but the biggest, um, that has strange implications.

1:43:21 It means that our very belief systems. About ourselves, our past and our universe are being, um, re-engineered at the highest level. And, uh, that, you know, you thought if you want to, if you want to be conspiratorial, paranoid and skeptical about this whole thing, you will, you would conclude that a substitute religion is being prepared for mankind or, and even a substitute science. Because, uh, I happen to know that what, what is set to come out involves, you know, things like the genetic, um, the genetic manipulation of the human being through time and so on. I mean, really weird stuff. And we'll be monitoring all that weird stuff as it comes out. And Mikey, we're going to have to have you back on the program again, uh, more often. Yeah, man, that dude just killed it, dude. Uh, government. Issued fairy tale.

1:44:25 That's creating a new religion. Like that's prophecy right there, right? Yeah. It's all been prophesied through the Bible and people, uh, I think the biggest problem is people aren't reading it and they don't know if you're skeptic, read the Bible and see that we're living in it right now. Right. Man percent. So, um, anyways, that's all I have. You want to have prayer before we jet out of here? Yeah, let's do that. Okay. Oh, I pray. Yeah. Go for it. Lord father in heaven. We just thank you so much for everything you do in our lives. Uh, we thank you for this opportunity to get to have a platform like this. We know it will not always be available. And so we just thank you for your protection for keeping it up. We pray that you would help the algorithms to push this out there and not be censored and shadow banned by those who want to keep this message from getting out there.

1:45:18 I pray, uh, pray for everyone who's in here. I thank you that they're here. They could have been anywhere else, but we just thank you for. Uh, their desire for seeking out the truth and for getting this message out. Lord, I just pray that you'd be with us every single day. Help us to become more and more like you give us more and more opportunities to expose Satan and what's coming upon the world because we want to see as many people in the kingdom as possible. We believe that you've given us that ministry and that you consider us worthy to do it. And we just can't thank you enough. Um, we just love you and thank you for all you do. Continue to guide and direct us and protect us in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. All right, Mikey, if you can stick around for just five more minutes, I'm going to, I'm going to do an outro and we'll talk to you in just a second. That was good friends. Thank you so much for joining tonight and we look forward to seeing you again very soon. And if you have found value in this, like I said previously, join us, join our discord, and you can do that through patrion.com slash strange normal.

1:46:20 We look forward to chatting with you there every day of the week. And we'll talk to you. Uh, very soon. Again, my name is Bradley and this has been pure strangeness and absolute normalcy. Strange. Normal. See you soon. Watching strange normal with the truth is the truth.