🚨The LIES the Media & the Vatican Has Told👽🛸

0:00 Looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. This is a person I respected tremendously, very, very senior person. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, OK, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. And I said, OK, sir, so it's ours? And he said, no, that's not what I'm saying. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I wasn't quite sure where he was going with that. And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic, and we should not be pursuing them. And what I've been trying to do is to use the special privilege that I've been given of getting access to a Harvard education and the law school education, and with the Jesuits and all the different people, and meeting Baba Muktananda and getting to meet all the spiritual leaders of our people and our planet, is to try to develop a really intense relationship.

1:06 It's a very intelligent, sophisticated, spiritually informed, but rationally developed set of policies for our dealing with extraterrestrial civilizations. The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today, we see these as, we call them UFOs. Maybe, again, the things that we have peopled our religions with, in the form of spirits or gods or what have you, are really just these things showing themselves as they appear to be now. Religions have made conclusions about the data and have become set in their ways. And that is, frankly, what sets up this potential conflict amongst the religions. Because they've all come to a conclusion, and they're trying to prove the other one wrong.

2:13 A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving, heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like, there was, like, an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning, was starting shooting from the sky. And, like, sparks were going, were, like, spreading everywhere. And then they, on the morning, they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. Mm-hmm. As warns in the Gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts, chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days.

3:06 The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe, and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. We're now less than 16 minutes away. The strategy that Werner Von Braun taught me was that, first, the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. Then terrorists would be identified. And that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country crazies. We now call them nations of concern. And the next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. And the funniest one of all was the fact that, you know, the last one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials.

3:58 That would be the final card. And over and over and over, during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card and remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. No, I'm not talking to you about this. And what am I going to tell her or him, you know, these little kids, you know, 10, 11 years old? Yeah, that there's a force that exists out there that can control our environment, that can put thoughts in your head, that can lie to you, trick you, deceive you. Say that to a 12-year-old? I mean, we're already saying it to a certain extent. 14 minutes, 30 seconds, and counting.

4:53 If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. Yeah. And apparently, that invite extends even to Martians. You know, there were no questions that prepared me for what I was about to get into. You know, people often say, oh, must have been fun and must have been exciting. No, it was pretty sobering. You know, I liken this conversation to like having a conversation with a loved one about maybe cancer. Now, the good news is the diagnosis looks fine. You're going to recover. But it's a serious conversation. This is something that we are challenging people to reevaluate their philosophy. Philosophical, psychological, sociological, and theological belief system.

5:41 Any time you ask humanity to do something like that, it usually takes generations. You can't just pivot. Because, you know, for example, let's just take culture, for example, of a country. It's like an aircraft carrier. How long does it take to turn an aircraft carrier? Well, it takes quite a bit of time and a lot of effort and whatnot. Well, this topic is the same way. Because we're challenging people to reconsider, if you will, re-evaluate their understanding of what they've been told about the universe and, more importantly, our place in it. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a? To be perfectly honest, a demon. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. I was in the kitchen by myself, and I felt it come up next to me. And I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back.

6:38 And it hasn't been back since. These so-called alien beings are actually manifesting at times as dead relatives during the abduction experience to challenge a person's belief system as Christian theology in the idea that dead relatives can be talked to or even spoken to or that they're even around to be able to hear what we have to say. No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well by contacting these things. Evolution says that these things are likely to be superior, and so survival of the fittest will destroy us. Religion says that these things are deceptive and dangerous. And the evidence, if you want to include all the theory and all the stories of these sincere people, it says they've damaged crops, they have mutilated cattle, they've abducted people beyond their will, they've messed with our highest, highest security protocols.

7:48 They enabled and disabled dangerous warheads, forced pregnancies, forced surgeries, burned victims, killed pilots and lied to people. And most experiencers have experienced at least one terrifying alien experience. So to say that these things, they haven't destroyed us yet, so they must be good, is to deny the fact that there might be a universal court saying these earthlings are protected here on Earth. And that's what Christianity believes. Well, we've passed the 11-minute mark. Now, T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. Both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. What's going on here? Absolutely. Very eye-opening. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs.

8:50 And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Mark, T minus 10 minutes and counting, T minus 10. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti, and he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the Gospel as we know it.

9:59 And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. I'm saying about the nuclear weapons, the UFOs were turning our weapons on just so Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So these guys went into complete secrecy, to start coming up with a defense system against this phenomenon. There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that, people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is.

11:09 There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is, that there's something you would call life somewhere else. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky.

12:01 Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you, it's real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? My name is Tom DeLonge. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. It's the first time that we had the videos properly declassified. And because of that, then we had information as far as altitude and speed, eyes on target, different radar systems. Different sensors that all corroborated what was happening. People start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon.

12:56 And when they follow what Seeker Machines is going to teach them. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. The term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part of what makes it more common. It's more complex than just little green men in flying saucers and tinfoil hats. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man. Period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is.

13:48 It's to be. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. Very soon. Not right now. Not in the beginning. We won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning. But there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia.

14:48 We're now passing the 4 minute 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. And the priest told us... Could I have a bit more of your time? I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grain plain, the Master's grain plain, for harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff because he says spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. Welcome, welcome everybody. We're going to have a great show tonight. Please hit that like button. The more likes we get, the more this is pushed out into the algorithm. Thank you so much. See you soon.

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18:46 These mysteries to the universe we were never meant to solve but who we are and why we are here are not among them. Ignition sequence five, six, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome to Strange Normal. My name is Brad Burnham. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what's going on. And we have a lot going on so hit that subscribe button, hit that little bell icon so you're notified when things like this happen. Good evening, everyone. It's going to be an amazing night. We're going to go over some very interesting things, particularly from a podcast called The Theory of Everything by Kurt Jarmunkel, I think his name is.

19:50 But before we get into that, it's been a crazy night, and you've seen two pre-recordings from the last two weeks, and we have so much to talk about. I mean, this could go on for hours, but instead, I think we're going to break it up into a couple shows, and a couple shows next week as well. Let me introduce our guest tonight. Hello, Eric. Hello, Matthew. Welcome back. Thanks for having me back. No, I'm a gentleman. You're the first to introduce yourself. I should have asked each one of you. But yeah, we're going to have a fantastic time tonight. It's going to be a... And we got a lot on the table. In fact, I was going to include some stuff. I should give you a little taste of what we're going to probably do next week.

20:43 We're going to talk a little bit about the president and how there was a president in the United States that actually was debriefed on this UFO topic. A little bit of lore, and it ruined his understanding of religion. And we're going to go into that and find out exactly what made him cry. And we're going to... We're going to also talk a little bit about Alice Bailey and her, which is an occult leader. She's going to talk a little bit about the 2025 issue. We're not going to set any dates or anything like that, but it is interesting that everything is kind of pointing that direction. That's not this episode. That's going to be this next one. It's probably going to come out before Thursday of this next week. So you might want to make sure you hit that subscribe button, hit that little bell icon. So we are talking tonight. We're going to dive right into it, guys.

21:38 We're going to talk about the Vatican tonight, because at least that's the first on the agenda. We talked a lot about the Vatican already in a previous episode. And so I want to point everyone back to that. But again, it's mentioned because this flow and steady drip of information is coming out and seeding everyone's mind with this idea that the Vatican already knows all about this. And it's already... They are privy. They are privy with everything and they know everything. We know that they are already being set up to be the world leaders in this. I'm going to use my finger quotes, disclosure that's coming. Here we go. So let me let me jump right into this and see what you think about this. It's from Kurt Jarmunkel's podcast. Great podcast, by the way. I try to catch it. He's got some some good guys on there. Check this out. Earlier, you mentioned the legacy program. It's still going on, though, but it's called the legacy program.

22:37 Yeah, it's essentially it's a it's an acknowledgment, I guess, that this is a program that goes back to the Second World War, at least, that there have been retrievals since allegedly, according to Grush. Well, the first retrieval he knows about was in 1933, which is allegedly the magenta Italy-Italian UAP craft, which was allegedly returned or recovered by the Americans in 1944 with the assistance of the Vatican and brought back to America. And if that's true, that's what Mr. Grush is alleging. If that's true, one can only hope that it's investigated and that people get to the bottom of it. In collaboration with the Vatican? Yes, the Vatican interceded to assist in handing the technology over from the vestiges of the Italian government at the end of the fascist Mussolini regime and handing it over to the Americans. As the Americans moved into Italy at the end of the Second World War. So that doesn't mean that there's something inherently Christian about this. It just happened to be where the Vatican is. Like, there's something geographical about it. Do you know, it's funny, I've spent a large part of my career revealing the horrible, sordid history of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

23:50 So I'm not a fan of the way it's conducted itself with its treatment of children. But one thing I will applaud the Catholic Church on is that it's long had a very progressive attitude towards the notion of a non-human intelligence. And I think 10 years ago, the Vatican astronomer, they do actually have a Vatican observatory in Italy. He spoke publicly about the notion that essentially whatever species we are of intelligent being, we are all God's children. And I think the Vatican knows an enormous amount about the phenomenon. And one person I commend you speak to is Diana Walsh Pasolka, who's written a terrific book called American Cosmic. And she's got a new book coming out that I've been privileged to to preview, and it's fascinating. And I think the Vatican is well aware of allegations that the planet has been shared with a non-human intelligence for a large part of humanity's existence.

24:48 And I'm told that some of the best archives and information historically on this is stored in the Vatican. And we went over all that just recently and forgive me. I don't have my screen up here, so I can't even see what's going on. But I'm talking to a blank camera. This this is this is fascinating because we went over this whole thing, the Vatican archives in a previous episode just recently, and this is this is a big deal. Do you, Matthew, I know you were originally Catholic. Do you know what do you know about this? Do you know anything more than what I've shared already? Have you been to the Vatican archives, Matthew? Oh, no. I didn't get to go to the the wonderful Vatican archives. I wasn't blessed enough to be enriched with that wisdom.

25:41 Brad and I did do an entire show on this. So if you haven't seen it, check it out on the channel. Went over a lot of it there. It's it's interesting to see that a guy like Ross Coulthard is coming out secular guy, I'm assuming. I don't necessarily know if he has a religious bend to him one way or the other. He says that he's not a fan of what the Catholic Church has as far as a history of child abuse. But he's he's a fan of their progressive stances on this matter. We know that the world we do share, we cohabitate this world with with evil spirits, fallen angels. There are also holy angels that come walk among us. We were privileged enough to have God himself, Emmanuel, walk with us for a time and we're looking forward to that time when he dwells with us forever. More. But, Eric, you weren't on that broadcast, were you? So what do you think about the Vatican archives?

26:41 My friend, interested to see what you should got in your noggin there. I'd just be interested to see how far back they go. You know, Roman Catholicism got its start in the Roman Empire. But a lot of records were destroyed in Alexandria and Jerusalem. And so I'm more more or less. This is just a curiosity for me because I'm sure there is good information and historical information in there, but obviously a lot of information that's I just view it as kind of like classified information in the military. Most of it is just being kept secret for no reason. Or, you know, somebody has some grand scheme for it, they think, or and ultimately it's going to come to nothing. But, you know, if if they release or, you know, as Brad uses air quotes disclosure, I can see them using the aura of like they're already using with classified information and these secret archives to give it some kind of mysticism or air of legitimacy or something like that in people's mind to excite the the imagination and get people all riled up about it, that's that's one way it could go.

27:48 So one of the things that they brought out that we we found while we were doing that episode is that they have perhaps in that archive there was three messages from Fatima, which was not Lady, they say it was it was Mother Mary. Mother Mary's dead. Hate to break it to everyone, but it was a a demonic entity that appeared to these kids and she delivered three messages, two of which the church said, oh, yeah, this is this is a message from God. The third one was not so godly. And they hid it and they say it has something to do with UFOs. And so I believe that's going to be revealed someday by the Vatican Church as part of this whole disclosure. Yeah, and it's in this, you know, keep in mind that, you know, the entity or whoever could have told them, like, hey, we're going to give you this third one, but you're going to hide it and pretend like it's this thing that is like you shouldn't air, but then we're going to tell you when to release it.

28:50 And this is all remember who's in control here. Right, right. Yeah. They want full disclosure. And we've discovered that and Ross is the white haired guy being interviewed by Kurt on this podcast. And he is a a Australian news anchor or news investigator. And he has a lot to do with revealing this stuff that's happening through News Nation and as they bring this stuff out and disclose this stuff from the Pentagon. So what he says about the media outlets really surprised me because he since he's not a part of the American media outlets, he was very upfront and critiqued them quite a bit. And so hold that the thought about the Catholic Church and present it with this because this is it's kind of interesting. Watch this. The best commentary has not been coming from The New York Times or The Washington Post because all of these institutions, they no longer have the resources to have the reporters on the ground doing the work that these kind of papers used to do.

30:00 They're waiting for the Pentagon to tell them what to say. And that's the tragedy. So I've been going on to Telegram. I've been going on to the sites where you actually have Russian observers, Ukrainian observers on the ground reporting directly what's really going on. And this is why social media, I think, in the long run will be the entity that breaks the story of the UAP reality, because mainstream legacy media, of which I've been a part for so many years, has completely dropped the ball on the UAP issue. That's the problem. And it's a it's a huge dilemma because I suspect that there are people in the Pentagon right now who feel that they've done a really good job suppressing this story, that David Grush has been effectively marginalised.

30:52 And they're working, I'm sure, behind the scenes right now to try and neuter any congressional inquiries. Yeah, and I don't think he presented everything there. But what I think is fascinating about that is that he is very critical throughout the whole podcast about the media and saying that he goes into more detail and say says that the the media itself has and he said, I've been a part of this. This is this is I'm talking to myself, too. It's been a big deal because we just have originally presented what the unbiased opinion is. And we've been a part of this for a long time. And I think that's what's really interesting about this. I think that's what's really interesting about this is that the media, at least the American media, go to the White House and say, hey, can you just tell us what we need to say here, because we don't we don't know what to say, for instance. And he gives this example, the the lady that gives the I forget her name.

31:52 Maybe you guys or someone in the chat will remember there's a there's a lady at the White House that does all the press right now. And it seems to change. What about this whole UAP thing? What about this this David Gruch thing? And she's like, well, you're going to have to ask the the the military about that. And he he's very critical about him. He says the media should have stood up right then and said, no, you're the White House. What has the president been debriefed about this? What have we learned about this? And this is where we get our information. You guys should know about this. But nobody said a word. Nobody wanted to. Nobody wanted to be the one that doesn't get invited back to the press house of the of the White House. Right. And so that's what he said is the fear of not getting the news anymore from the White House.

32:42 So how does this tie back to the Catholic Church? Well, what has happened here is that the media is no longer being unbiased and they're waiting for the official story to come out. So when the Catholic Church comes out and says something, oh, don't touch any religion. What is the actual thing? The the the they want us to say that's what's going to be pushed out. It's all being set up. So it's it's it's a mess is what it is. It's not unbiased anymore. Well, I wouldn't it's never been unbiased. People, people who believe there was some glory days with Walter Cronkite and he was an unbiased. No, they were all biased. They were all pushing an agenda. If you want to know more about that, you'll research Operation Mockingbird, where the CIA has been involved in media. People have written books about it. And they've lost. I would say they've lost the pretense of being unbiased.

33:36 Now it's just out in the open and they don't care because they know that. I mean, and it kind of ties into current events and things going on politically. People wonder, you know, why are these companies committing suicide? You look at Bud Light or Disney or things like that and these issues they're embroiled in. And it's like, well, don't they care about profits? No, they care more about their part in the agenda, whatever is being pushed forward. And that's the truth. So and the news has always been that way. And it and I it would behoove us also, I think, to be leery of people who step outside the mainstream as far as trusting them, because that can also be a tactic of the person who, you know, I think I'm not going to judge what his motivations are. I can't get inside his head. But you look at Tucker Carlson is a big topic right now. It's like, OK, he was kicked out of Fox News. You know, he's being persecuted. We should trust him because he's obviously telling us the truth. Well, maybe. But I mean, he's part of the system when you're part of the system for a long time. Unless there's like a unless I see me personally, unless I see like a complete disavowal and specifically mentioning Jesus Christ and Satan and calling things out from a biblical perspective, I don't I don't I tend not to trust people.

34:49 So that's me. Yeah, I agree. A great way to control the narrative. Well, a great way to control the narrative and to move into the alternative news media space, because that is the trusted news source these days. People aren't necessarily going to what they call legacy news media for the scoop. You would take it, you'd put someone out there who is going to present a certain angle that you'd want. And then once that person presents that angle in the alternative news space, it's kind of like, well, we've already talked about this. The authority in our zone now has already said something like we'll use Tucker Carlson. As an example, something breaks with David Grush and it comes out. And then on his Tucker on Twitter is his new thing. He says it's confirmed aliens walk among us and we have non earth based craft that are that are here.

35:47 So it's kind of like, well, Tucker already said it. Anybody who's now coming in after the fact and trying to get that angle, get that scoop in on it is they're probably going to be discarded because it's like, well, we've already got Tucker on it. You know, he's he he has his his his foot in the door on this issue. So, yeah, it is fair, I think, to just be leery. We need to be like Bereans, you know, anyone who comes up, you know, and might seem like a great thing, you might really actually like the person personally that you might find them appealing, but always test what that person is saying against the word of God. And as Eric said, ideally, we have people coming out and just proclaiming a strong faith in Jesus Christ and denouncing whatever associations they've had previously. Yeah, yeah. And that's it's the point here is this has all been set up. Now we got let's review the Catholic Church, obviously, news media all set up.

36:45 I mean, and we already know if you've watched this podcast before TV and media and the shows you watch. Yeah, they're they're in on it, too. Well, let me show you exactly what I mean here. I'm not just saying that. It's right here. Watch this. And what people don't realize is that it's part of Grush's allegations, that they've been deliberately disinformed by the Pentagon and by the intelligence community, that there's been an active disinformation, that frankly, our media and our movies and our TV shows have been manipulated. Literally, you've had people from the intelligence and military coming in and actually controlling and dictating by regulating access to military resources, how movies are told. How explain about that, please. Oh, sure. For example, my co-host of my podcast need to know Bryce Zabel.

37:41 Bryce is an illustrious Hollywood screenwriter and producer, and he made a TV series that was very much the precursor to X-Files called Dark Skies. And in Dark Skies, it tells the story of alien beings secretly infiltrating at the time of JFK, infiltrating the US government. And it's essentially it's a science fiction story. Yeah. And he postulates that JFK was murdered because of his attempts to bring this out into the open. The fact of a secret alien presence on planet Earth. Now, that's fiction. And in one of the sequences, the aliens possess humans by quite frighteningly emitting a ganglion from their mouth and literally putting it inside a human being and taking them over. And it's quite frightening and terrifying. And it's one of the graphic video images that you see on Dark Skies. Bryce had a lot of fun telling it. But the way he tells it, he and his co-producer colleague were approached by the Department of Navy Intelligence.

38:48 And in secret, they were approached and offered the opportunity to tell the story accurately about how aliens really do possess people. Now, they can't verify. The truth of what these guys were telling them. But what both he and Brett, his colleague, attested to is that they were actually approached by a military agency and offered the opportunity to collaborate on getting the information in their fictional series as accurate as possible. And apparently that's been happening in Hollywood for years. There have been collaborations between the Pentagon, the Defense Department, the intelligence community and movie makers. I'm sorry, do you put accurate as possible in quotations because you feel like they're going to feed them disinformation at this point? I don't know. I don't know. But I don't know the truth of it. I mean, I don't know if aliens do have such capacities if aliens exist. But isn't it intriguing? Why would a military intelligence agency be wanting to actively involve itself in in in controlling the output of a fictional TV show to influence the public about a non-human intelligence aliens?

39:57 That's been happening in Hollywood for years. And since Bryce and I spoke about that on our need to know podcast, which people, by the way, can access at www.needtoknow.today. Since we spoke about that, I've heard from other people who've told me about how there's been active attempts by U.S. military and intelligence to essentially influence how movies are told when it comes to talking about non-human intelligence for decades. Why are they doing that? What? What? What's the role of the military or the intelligence community in influencing fictional stories in Hollywood? Why would they feel the necessity to do that? I'm just asking that question. But again, it's the lack of curiosity by media because a lot of this has been dismissed as tinfoil hat nonsense and conspiracy theories.

40:49 It's not it really isn't. I mean, I know for a fact I've spoken directly with producers and filmmakers who've had these approaches. There are whole books written about the way I think it's one called I think it's called Silver Saucers. I recommend it. It's a great read. It talks about how Hollywood has routinely been meddled with by the military and intelligence community on the issue of UAPs. Actually, I want to he's made me want to read that book now. Silver Saucers. I looked it up. It's kind of hard to find about 17 U.S. dollars. And I might just grab that Hollywood's Silver Saucers. I think it was called I forget the exact name. Um, he mentioned this. He said, was it he said the military came in and wanted to do this. Now, it might have been the military, but in a previous episode, we dug into this a little bit. And I don't know if I presented it here on this channel or somewhere else, but I thought it would be good to kind of review about that because there's a lot more information that he didn't tell us in that last clip of how the military came in and told him how possession worked.

41:55 Now, that's that's that's another good question. I'm going to let you guys talk in a second, but I'm kind of monologuing here. But what what is possession? Is that something aliens do or is that something demons do? That's that's what blows my mind. Why don't people go to the Bible, the ancient text, to look at this stuff and say, hey, wait a second. Where have we seen possession before? Why do they go and say, well, aliens must somehow possess people because it has to be aliens? What's the logic in that? What do you guys think? We're playing a game with each other. We're playing the who wants to talk first game. We don't want to talk over each other. Let's just let's just go at it. Let's just shout over each other. You go first. You go first, Matthew. I'll go first.

42:50 Yeah, I the military feeding the lines to Hollywood and it not being anything new. A lot of Christians have the idea correct. They get it. They know that Hollywood. Is evil and satanically run. They know that the music industry is evil and satanically run. And they know about some some bodies like World Economic Forum being really weird and even the U.N. But you have to take the next step and realize that all of the political agencies of the world, the military industrial complexes, that stuff is run by Satan. At. It doesn't mean that everybody involved in a political position or a military position is an evil person. I do believe that he has he has sway in all of these areas. Nothing is sacred here on Earth that Satan isn't willing to infiltrate and use for his own ends.

43:52 So. A lot of the things you see in Hollywood that are blatantly satanic, it's because that's the stage where they allow it to play out in front of the public so that the public looks and they say, whoa, they're so evil. But if the truth is that behind it, the military is actually feeding them these lines. You have to wonder if these are all just kind of puppets performing, then who's pulling the strings? And it seems that military industrial complex is pulling the strings in some of these cases. And they have done some really sinister stuff. I mean, I don't need to go into detail on it right now. I'm sure that some of our viewers have a pretty good idea of what I'm alluding to. But, you know, Eric even said Operation Mockingbird. That's the CIA operation where they fed news organizations the script. You know, you will say X, Y and Z.

44:44 Here is what the American people need to know, and this is what is off limits for you to talk about. There's the MKUltra project. Yeah, exactly. There's the MKUltra project. I mean, that that is nothing short of torture that they conducted on people. And brainwashing, it's really disturbing. And these are some of the things that have to be classified and we're allowed to know about. Man, when we get to heaven and we're given access to the full library of knowledge and we're able to look back, there's there's going to be some moments where we're going to say, wow, I didn't realize we were living in this snake pit where it was just so much dangerous stuff. But it makes the makes God all that more glorious because he's shielding us, he's protecting us. He's he's letting us live and sometimes even thrive in this fallen world. And so how much better will it be in the end? That's one hundred percent. One hundred percent.

45:36 Yeah, there's a lot to I mean, that goes along with this. And this is like a whole tangent that we could go down. But as far as the mill, Matt's right about, you know, it's not everybody involved. I've heard figures something like a thousand, definitely fewer than ten thousand people in the world that we would consider elites that are essentially running the show and, you know, from our our naval experience, it's like we're on the ship. We don't. We don't have any control where that ship goes. Like if we're we're just doing our job, you know, if the ship gets sent into, you know, wherever, yeah, I'll know where we're going because of the nature of my job, but I'm going with you whether I like it or not. You know, most of the people in any, you know, finance, Hollywood or things like that, there's good people everywhere, there's good people in every organization. And they're just they it's compartmentalization. That's why compartmentalization works, because they have the only everybody focuses on their little piece of the puzzle without a clue of the bigger picture. And, you know, and it's amusing that we think that these programs like MKUltra or something is shut down, there's a scene that we should play at one of these days.

46:41 But if anybody's ever seen the the Bourne, I forget which Bourne movie it is. I think it's the Bourne Identity, the first one where basically at the end of the movie, he's before this congressional hearing and they're talking about Operation Treadstone, which is the secret operation. And he's like, you know, it didn't pan out. It's all been shut down, decommissioned. And they're like, OK, what's next? And he pulls out this folder, which has essentially all the Treadstone stuff in it, just renamed it. Oh, this is Operation Black Briar now. And we're going to OK, great. You know, like so don't we can't delude ourselves into any thinking that human politics or human endeavors or something is somehow making things better, it's progressing exactly how Satan wants it to. And ultimately how God said it would. That's that's who ultimately is in control. God is not the one doing the bad things, but he's allowing Satan. He's allowing Satan to fulfill Bible prophecy, essentially. So any time you see especially movies or media that has the direct cooperation of the CIA or the military, if you see something with actual fighter jets flying around or inside views of the Pentagon or something, that means that that movie script was approved by whatever agency helped them and it is delivering some kind of message.

47:55 Yeah. So just know that this and this is this is well known. You can look into it. We don't have to go into it all here, but you can easily find this out. Yeah. Yeah. I think we actually had an episode on that, too, where it showed the military saying, yeah, if we give you B-roll, it's called, you know, give them the clips to show, hey, this is a fighter jet taking off. You will let you do this as long as we can control what you're saying about it. And then they tell you exactly what to say. That's 100 percent. It's like give and take to the. To the end, too, that everyone involved in this is not evil. I want to clear the air a little bit because I know that we've brought up points against the Catholic Church. We've done it even in this episode. I want to go on record to say that I do not believe that all Catholics are doomed and will never enter into heaven. I that is not at all what I've ever tried to convey. I do read the comments.

48:53 So I see sometimes in the comments people making that allegation to where I have an agenda against the Catholic Church. Maybe even against Catholics to an extent. Absolutely not. I think that we have to take a reasonable stance by this. You have to determine what is my standard that I'm going to judge by. I have chosen the word of God. If I take the Bible and I look at the practices of the Roman Catholic Church, they simply do not align. I if I wanted to sit down and maybe I should one day just write out paragraphs about what the contradictions are. They're all in there. It does not adhere to that. That doesn't mean that someone who's in the system and practicing that is doomed because God knows their heart and God does wink at the ignorance of the people involved. Yeah, I think that there are a good a good number of people who will be in heaven.

49:49 And when they realize that they were betrayed by that entity, they're they're going to be very sad. But they will be saved, not not by their practicing of Catholicism, but in spite of it, because of the faith that they had in Jesus Christ and that they were doing something in accordance with the will of God. They're sheep in many folds. That's all exactly even there. Well, to tie this up, to tie this into God's word revelation, starting in chapter 18, starting in verse one, and after these things, I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying Babylon. The great is fallen, is fallen and has become the habitation of devils and the whole of every foul spirit and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. And jumping down to verse four.

50:42 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins and that you not that you receive not of her plagues. So there is an acknowledgment. Like, why did Christ say not to be deceived so many times? Because there's going to be deceptions. Why? Why did he say that? You know, many are going to follow the broader road leading off into destruction because it's going to be unfortunately few following the narrow road. But we are given the call. It's not. I was raised in a cult. Matt and I were both part of the military, which is an occult organization, especially the U.S. military, you know, that is in the United States, has a significant part to play. He wasn't raised in the military, by the way. No, he wasn't. He wasn't like taking it. I understand how he was going to get that impression. He was born on the Fourth of July. Freedom rings. Yeah, but I mean, you can come out of it and that's what we're called to do.

51:37 The Holy Spirit can draw anybody out of anywhere. You know, we just have to let it in. And so that's what the when we talk about certain organizations, it's not that, you know, I hate people working in the government or that we hate Catholics or in any organization, but these organizations, we have to recognize that the organizations are the problem individual. There's a differentiation between individuals and organization. And God is calling individuals. Jesus Christ called individuals to follow him. You know, organizations don't pray. Organizations don't aren't disciples or follow Christ's individuals. It's all about the individual. The church is a group of individuals. Yeah, even kingdoms, too. I mean, look at the kingdom of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar. You know, he's got a chapter, chapter four of Daniel written by Nebuchadnezzar. He's the king of Babylon who has renounced his his beliefs.

52:32 So obviously, God still has issue with Babylon and the system and what it what it's for. But there's Nebuchadnezzar saved out of the system. Now, I fully expect to see him in heaven one day. How cool is that? I believe that God can reach anybody. Even Paul said that he was made an example. He was the chief of sinners and he was saved so that others. Could look at him and see his track record and go, wow, what a wicked guy. But there it is. At the end, he sided with God. He chose Jesus. And we have this wonderful example in the scriptures. So absolute, absolute. So I wanted to dig into this a little bit. And by the way, I just I said Silver Saucers. I'm not giving a recommendation to that book. I haven't read it.

53:18 I just thought it was interesting that it talks about Hollywood and UFO thing and kind of meshes with what we talk about on here. And so that's not the name of it. I have found the name of it. But to not. Present it, you'll have to find it yourself. It's kind of like the name of it. But I wanted to talk. I want to dig deeper into that story about, you know, his podcast and his experience with being in Hollywood as a producer and and and having someone come to his house and try to tell him how to run his movies. We're going to find out. I think we're going to find out whether it's military or something else. Check this out. Well, here's the interesting thing. You talked about the mythology of the government and some kind of symbiotic relationship with Hollywood, I don't know how extensive it's been, although there are cases that go back to the frankly, 1950.

54:15 But I personally have experienced it with my dark skies television series co-creator Brent Friedman. We created a series called Dark Skies that aired on NBC in the 90s. At the same time, Miles was out, I should tell you, and we had an incident that happened to us that I just have never heard anyone else have anything quite like it. This is what happened. We decided to have a dark skies premiere party for when the show was first going to air. It was a two hour episode. It was on September 21st, 1996. And we had a party, 200 people who were cast and crew. And the network executives, the studio executives, and we had it at my house. So there's that. So we have all these people coming to my house to watch the show that has not yet aired. All right. And while that was happening, we were approached by a gentleman who got into my house, a guy that got into my house.

55:18 I knew everybody else, 200 people there, knew them all, didn't know this guy. And he approached Brent and myself as the co-creators of the show, said he was from intelligence and they wanted to help us. I'm going to let Brent tell a little bit more of the story now. All right. Before we go into that, I want to kind of pause it there. Hold your hold your comments just for a second, because we're going to go right straight into the next clip, but this we're going to find out just what military intelligence this guy is. This is really weird stuff. And I have these clips are not moving for a reason because otherwise they get caught by the content ID and I want to present this to you. This is fascinating stuff that you're not going to find. Anywhere else. Watch this. He was not a man in black. He you know, he looked like a young Republican.

56:06 He looked like a young politician, right, if anything. And he came up and introduced himself and said that he was a big fan of the show and he loved what he had seen. And again, the show is in the middle of a broadcast, right, for the first time on television. And he's already talking about that he's seen the whole thing, which struck me as odd. And as we started to have a conversation, he had said, yeah, I just I was sent here by some very interested people to let you know that we really appreciate what you and Bryce are doing with the show and we wanted to help. And that was my reaction. A very face you made was my face. And again, I can't tell you how surreal this was because I'm trying to, like, keep an eye on the party. But I'm talking to this guy and I'm I'm very confused as to who he is and why I'm having this conversation with him.

57:08 But it's kind of fascinating. So I keep talking and I say, well, I don't I don't understand. How do you think you can help? And he said, well, you've actually got a lot of truth in your show, but you can have a lot more if you work with myself and my partners, we're prepared to come in and tell you some really interesting things. One of the things that I will tell you that happened is that when you shoot a pilot in the US for the for television, a lots of people actually are part of the process to make the pilot, but they don't all get to see it. All right. So this guy, when he showed up at my house the night of the premier party, said he had seen the pilot and me kind of being, you know, well, a skeptic like yourself, I said, oh, yeah, well, what happens after a pilot sees the crop circle, which I thought, well, that I smoke him out pretty good and the guy said, oh, yeah, well, that's where they go back to the majestic twelve headquarters and they they they perform the surgery, which is exactly what happens in the series. And keep in mind, do you think he was saying that some of do you think he was saying that some of what you were putting in your program was actually true, even though you and Brent had just made this stuff up? That's exactly what he said. He said, that they had seen our pilot and they obviously had had I mean, they had seen the pilot and that they thought it was very good.

58:37 And they I guess they thought there would be the drip, drip, drip of disclosure. And we were part of telling the truth under the cover of fiction, which was kind of the the way that we sold the Dark Skies series in the first place. So I guess what this fellow was saying is we think there are some things that you could put into your show. And I think that would be even more helpful now to that. I said, I'm a Hollywood producer, as you just pointed out. I really don't want guys from O&I giving me ideas. They're not going to be in our TV series or whatever. OK, I'm positive just for a second. O&I, I think, is is a is a high military base in in Australia. I'm not sure someone from Australia correct me on that. But maybe it's like the CIA or Office of Naval Intelligence. There we go. Intelligence branch of the US Navy. Oh, OK, thank you. So O&I is Office of Naval Intelligence. So he was saying he doesn't want any military in in the in the system because the other guy is Australian. So I was thinking he was talking Australian.

59:39 O&I, I'm glad you military people are on the show. Yeah, you need Eric in your ear at all times, even if his face isn't here. He needs to play producer for you. Just buzz your buzz, your little headphone. Bradley, Bradley. O&I, like what is that? O&I is nuts. Not an Australian military base. What are you doing? So O&I, go ahead. I have to give a shout out to Eugene in the chat, a fellow sonar technician. Is it STS, though? So he was on submarines. Matt and I were on surface ships, but I was roommates with a few STS. So they tend to when they when they get off the sub, some of them come to my sonar special special command. So so welcome. And glad to have you, Eugene.

1:00:28 Yeah, yeah. We're watching the chat, everyone. So keep talking. And and I want to pause for a second to tell everyone, hey, hit that like button. It really does help push out this a little bit further and get that live out into the algorithm. Really do appreciate it. So not only did they not only did these people, whoever these military O&I people are, they already knew what was going on in the show. And they hadn't even seen the pilot or the had they how they see it. We don't know. Or they also didn't want any money for their services. And they didn't want to be known who they were before we have any more new questions. Let me let me just show this next clip. Do you witness any of this? Yeah. Yeah, I did. It's almost interesting. It would have been a great experiment to put Brent in one room and me in another room and have us tell the story because I can confirm all of the details.

1:01:23 It was very antagonistic. Yeah. And the meeting ultimately went nowhere. It's like I think I got the sense that this guy that I met in Bryce's yard who called himself J.C., that's all he would tell me about himself, that he was trying to broker something with this military person from the Navy. They started throwing around, you know, and I don't remember the differentiation, but there was a group called the Aviary and there was a group called the Aquarium. They were different. One aviary was the Air Force, I think, and the Aquarium. The Aquarium was trying to get the truth out and the Aviary was trying to shut it down. And so these guys and so I felt that J.C. was trying to negotiate something with the Aquarium to get some truths out and tell them and they wanted to help us come up with some story ideas. They did not want story credit and they did not want money. No story credit, no money, calls himself J.C..

1:02:23 What could that stand for? If someone wants to be like God and they also already saw the thing, but it wasn't sent to the military because he says he doesn't want the military involved in their production. What in the world is this? I don't think this is I think this is something else. That's my belief system. I could go into further detail about that because I've seen the whole program. But what do you guys think? The Aquarium and the Aviary cracks me up every time I hear that. It's like a children's mystery novel. Who could they be? The Aviary and the Aquarium. But maybe it's the US Air Force and the Navy. I don't know. You know, yeah, I think it's interesting about kind of the not knowing about these which agencies these people are supposedly from, there's an interesting thing, and I think this is one of their hiding in plain sights that they do in the media, but if you'll watch movies that involve the CIA, I remember they did this with one of the Tom Clancy.

1:03:25 Jack Ryan or something like that. It was a newer movie with that character. And I think Kevin Costner was in it. And basically he's a CIA. Well, this happened in the hunt for Red October, too, where a CIA officer puts on a Navy uniform because he has to keep people can't know he's CIA. So they pretend to be military. And, you know, when you're on a military base, you see somebody in uniform. You're just looking at the uniform. You're not asking for their ID card to verify. So, you know, it looks like an officer. The uniform is correct. You just assume that's an officer. And so. These people are not just talking about demons, but, you know, the people in the higher up, they can they can get any credential or any uniform or anything that they want to pose as whoever they need to. This is a theme in the X-Files. So there's a lot of this that, you know, it gets to the point where it's like you can't you really can't trust anything except God's word because you don't know who you're talking to, you don't know what the agenda is. So that's why we just really have to focus on what we know is true and then just kind of passively observe.

1:04:25 And then we can just go back and rest because that's all we can do. Yeah, I 100 percent agree. And I don't think for the record, I, I don't think these things were human. I don't. I think. No, this specific case, if what they say is true, then yeah, it was probably it was probably a fallen angel. Yeah. And we know that they don't appear with wings. We know that they appear when they appeared a lot. They appear to just regular men that ate and drank with them. So it it makes total sense to me that, you know. Hey. Oh, we're missing one point. This is the this is the clincher of the whole thing. What did they what really bothered these these things that came to them? The the ABR and the Aquarius or whatever, what not they call themselves. What what bothered him about this program that he wanted to change and wanted to have more truth in it?

1:05:18 Well, let's find out. And this is this is this is surprising. Watch this. One of the things in the Dark Skies series is there is a ganglion that kind of infest somebody's head and then it gets out of their head. That's what bothered them, Ross. They said, well, that's not the way it works. And I said, well, I don't care how it works. This is a TV series. You know, we're it's drama. We make things up. And he goes, yeah, but you know, that one. It's just not quite the way it works. You could do better on that. You could do better on that. OK, I'm going to jump straight into the next clip in particular, though, I remember one thing that irritated them, but we had a great, I guess, storyline and series laid out about a conspiracy.

1:06:07 Right. But one of the things that Brent brought to the party because he had kind of a horror film background at that point is we added this thing where the aliens were we called it the ganglion and they would infest a person, you know, physically. And so you had ganglions coming out of people's mouths and all that. I remember they were like, that's not the way it works, OK? And we were like, we don't care if that's the way it works. It's the way it works in dark skies. It's a TV show. But they were like, no, see, you're setting everything back because that's not how they really do it. So they wanted you to publish what they were saying was the truth. Yes. Yes. OK, let's let's assume that's true for a moment. Why would any government agency that's presumably presiding over an intentional cover up come to a TV program and try and sew it with aspects of the truth?

1:06:55 Because J.C. said to me that this is it's a drip system, right? Like, get the truth out there in small ways. And you have a television show that millions of people are watching right now. Some people will take it seriously. And if we start lacing it with bits of the truth, then we're preparing everybody. So so, Ross, just to be clear, they were they were on board with the alien invasion aspect of it. They just were not on board with us telling it as a horror story. They had. Issues with that. And to answer your your question, which is a really excellent one. It's as Brent said, they were looking at a disclosure scenario. How how ultimately does this secret become known to the public? And they said to us that, you know, pretty much what Brent said earlier, you just can't the president can't come out and say, by the way, here's everything.

1:07:51 And all at once. So they wanted to see more of the truth. Through fiction. And in fact, that which was exactly what our show was doing. We literally told people in our sales materials when we sold the series that we had been approached to tell the story, the true story under the cover of fiction. And just like Tom DeLonge's book, Secret Machines. Fascinating. Tell the story through fiction as a drip system. Hmm. Same story never gets old. I can't help but think that the recent interview you did with Wendy and how she mentioned hearing the same stories, something about like the the fallen angels say that they love God the Father and want to go back. But they, you know, made this pact or something. And it's like any time there's that. Well, any time a demon tells you anything, just don't trust it. Just pray and don't trust it. But I mean, if that's you know, we hear these narratives. So we not only have to look at we think about what they're dripping out, what they're why would they want to do that and why would they want to say that versus something else is that's that's what interests me is if they're if they're pushing one narrative, that means they're not pushing another another narrative.

1:09:14 Something I wanted to mention, too, is the Hegelian dialectic is we don't talk too much about it on this show, but basically, if you got a way that you want people to think or actions, you want them. You want them to take you set up two opposing sides artificially and you get those opposing sides to war each other and get to the point where the just is so polarized and then you come in down the middle with something that's reasonable to both sides and we I think it's safe to say we are living in the most polarized time that certainly any of us remember and on multiple levels. And so that's absolutely being used to Satan's advantage and somehow fits into this. How yet? We have to wait and see. But. I think it's drip drip, too, until you just turn on the faucet and you let it all go. And that's what the deception is going to be, the grand deception. What we're experiencing right now is it's the little thoughts that go into the back of your head for the average person, you know, when they're commuting to work in the morning and they watch something like the X-Files the night before and they're driving and their mind is free to wander. So what are they meditating on?

1:10:20 They're going to be meditating on these concepts and saying, well, maybe it is kind of like that. Maybe it is or even just it'd be cool if it was real. That's what you do. You kind of condition the populace to accept this thing. And then in one swift moment, I think it's that magicians pulling back the curtain to show it's like, oh, there's nothing here. There's nothing here. And I pull it back and boom, an elephant is on the stage. Everyone's like an elephant. How does an elephant get there? And that's what we're going to be faced with for the grand deception. It's going to be something huge because I do believe that when this breaks, when whatever it is, when the the real disclosure happens, it's going to set into motion the events of the end times and they'll be quick once it's going to be rapid and it's going to be boom or another. You're going to see people having to make decisions under pressure and it's going to get messy. But that's why we're doing it right now. And we're we're parsing it out. Well, well, there's this time to sit back and relax and do the meditation. Understand it. Yeah, 100 percent.

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1:12:39 We haven't seen any yet. So we're just going to go with that thought for a second here, because that's what this guy is saying, Grush. But they're saying that these things just appear for the military. They just appear. And then they take them in. Is that the truth? I don't know. Let's find out. But the allegation that has been put to me, and that includes British special forces personnel, is that there have been active operations, crash retrievals even within the last few years. This has been an ongoing issue. And people may say, oh, well, how come these things are crashing? If these are such advanced technology, why are they crashing so much? Often? They're not crashing. They're just retrieved. We don't know the circumstances in which they came to be where they are.

1:13:30 But I'm told it has been alleged to me that on occasion they have been fully functioning technologies recovered. With no visible damage to them. No visible damage. So this tells me, OK, let's take a look at this from a completely unchristian, unreligious standpoint. You're telling me aliens came from all the way across the universe to abduct people and mutilate cows and tell people that Jesus isn't who he says he is. And then they just leave their craft and they disappear. What? Here's the keys. Earthlings, have fun. Maybe they were too drunk to drive home. Maybe Earth is the party planet and I had to just, you know, pick it up. That's what I say. Yeah. I think I have the Christian perspective.

1:14:25 That would actually be. That's my line. It would be that Earth is some type of a party paradise for alien beings to come. And they just get they get too drunk on whatever they've got out there in the galaxy, and that's why the cows get mutilated. Whoops. Like they've got like a weird disintegration ray. Oh, man, on the button. Just just going through the lore. It just doesn't make sense. And so we're actually in the next episode coming this week. We're going to go over what what the narrative is that they perhaps legitimately are trying to push this. A lot of the lore doesn't make any sense. You can't put it together because it's not true. And even though the the the narrative that's going to be pushed has some big holes in it, but that that for one, if you look at it through a Christian perspective and if if if there is some kind of physical deception that we're going to see in the future, it would make sense that these things are given.

1:15:28 To push our our technology forward so we can destroy ourselves. It's all being used for military. I mean, that's exactly what what what I think if I was the devil, I would hope to do push these guys forward so they can destroy ourselves in the past. All we've been able to do is lob cannonballs at each other. But now we can do significant damage, maybe because they pushed us forward a little bit with this gifts of technology. I don't know. I don't know. Someone in the chat telling it like it is, they said that demons leaving tech to help them fight. So maybe I could think of if humanity is going to take up the gambit and an ally with the demonic forces and point weapons into the sky. I mean, it would be more impressive than just pointing a couple of missiles at the air.

1:16:24 It would be more, I don't know, angelic to fight them with that could be a thing. Right, right. This has been a wild, wild one. Do you have any comments, Eric? Before I jump into the last, we're going to talk about Ukraine now a little bit. Go for it. The Ukraine. I got this clip from Ross. He talked a little bit about the Ukraine. I was surprised because I I didn't know this was still going on. Christian Broadcasting Network. Just brought this out a while ago. I'll show that clip in a moment. But he says this is continuing to happen in the Ukraine where the military is seeing these things. And his sources say it's all over the place. Check this out. I interviewed a former British special forces soldier called John Chapman. He's a former British para, very highly trained British soldier.

1:17:14 He was literally in combat in Ukraine in the very early days of the battle around Kyiv in April last year. He was with a group of Navy SEALs, special forces soldiers from all over the world, an international battalion that was fighting behind Russian lines. And in the interview that he did with me, he and his colleagues described seeing firstly three strange lights appear in the sky in the night sky. And then all of a sudden, a triangular craft winked into existence. And the way he's described it, it appeared to be operating as some kind of surveillance and reconnaissance platform. It silently moved above the battlefield literally as they're getting mortared. They're looking up and they're describing it. They're seeing it.

1:18:08 They're absolutely categorical that they saw it. I've corroborated that this was seen. Some kind of triangular surveillance platform was being used on the battlefield, clearly monitoring Russian positions in the very early days of the Kyiv offensive. By the Russians. I don't know who that was, but something was taking an interest. And that platform, that triangular object has been seen by multiple witnesses all around the world. Now, I know people love to dismiss all this as a wacky conspiracy theory, and they love to sort of push the idea that this is just a conspiracy theory and it's pushed by crazy people with little green men agendas. That's no longer the case. This is being rationally suggested by sober men and women at a very high level in the American governments, both in Canada and the US. I've had conversations with people in your government.

1:19:06 You know, they privately admit to me that they know something's going on, but they're frightened of asking. You know, it's almost like, well, we kind of assume it's in the national good, so we're not going to push any harder. But I think that's what the people who've been hiding this all these years have been playing on. I think there have periodically been people inside the US government who have an oversight role. One of them is perhaps Admiral Tom Wilson, the Wilson document, as we've discussed previously, Kurt. Good memory. And I think people have stumbled across the issue from time to time. And I think they've bought the line that this is a national security imperative and that they shouldn't push any harder. Hmm. Now, we've seen this before. And that's kind of what I want to go into here. We've seen this once before where things have been in the Ukraine.

1:19:57 Let me show you exactly what it is. Hold your thoughts. We're going to jump into this. Check this out. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship. There was like an attack from the spaceship. It was like a UFO or something. We've never seen anything like it, just a brilliant flash. There was a lightning in the sky just taking over the whole sky. There was some kind of a lightnings was starting shooting from the sky and like sparks were going well, like spreading everywhere. A group of Russian tanks were supposedly wiped out by a mystery UFO attack after the families of trapped Ukrainian soldiers prayed to God to offer their troops some help.

1:21:02 And then they on the morning they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed. Yeah. It's bizarre. And then the next morning they woke up and they said all the equipment from the Russians was destroyed, UFO attacks on Russian tanks, if only. Although in this case, God is real and UFOs are real, as the Pentagon has confirmed. There you go. Apparently there's lots going on in the Ukraine right now. And that was Christian Broadcasting Network. That wasn't like some random YouTube channel that was talking about this stuff. And there was a couple other videos in there as well. But this. This is not, you know, just a low, a low visibility thing. Something something weird is going on here. And so I think that we need to be wise to understand what is going on and see it through a biblical lens.

1:21:56 There is that. Are you able to pull the clip of that? It was pretty creepy. That trailer for the show, it's in the discord somewhere. Maybe this can be somebody in the chat can help us out or in the discord can link link to it. But it's that that is Russian. Like, it's a Russian soldier and she's in this shack all alone. And she's looking at a radar display and there's a voice talking to on the Reddit. Can you get that? That was a that was a that was one of the first episodes on this channel. I loved that. That that man like and that just goes to show like I've had this thought before of, you know, talking about even if we could communicate with the spirit realm, we have no way to it's like God it's one of the reasons God told us don't do it is because we have no way to verify who we're talking to. We don't have driver's licenses. There's no IDs to authenticate. The only thing we have, well, really, is to see how they react to the gospel of Jesus Christ. That's and test the spirits. But other than that, I mean, and that that it just made me remember it because it's in the Ukraine or it's in Russia, it's set in Russia with everything going on now.

1:23:02 Also, something interesting that's kind of might be related, as I've heard. I can't remember where I heard it. Maybe somebody else in the chat knows or sort of the same thing, but basically part of the plan for Ukraine right now for like the World Economic Forum or whatever, and again, this is I'm not unverified. So we'll wait and see. But is to tear it down and basically rebuild it in the image that like the way the World Economic Forum went into their utopia with like, I don't know, the 15 minute cities or the digital currencies or how I don't know how much of that they want to work in there, but basically it's it's being what we know it's being destroyed right now and so it's going to have to be rebuilt. And we know what they want. We know what they want to do with other societies. And there's that the city that the Saudis are that I don't know how many kilometers long that the line city that they're looking to put up. And so they have all these projects that we're getting hints of them wanting to build.

1:23:57 But how do you build in many cases? You have to destroy what's already there in order to build something new. Right. And so we're seeing greater and greater destruction, the greater and greater disruption to preexisting systems. That's I wasn't going anywhere with this. No. And the video you were referencing is on this channel is called Hollywood's most accurate UAP scene. I should have renamed it to UFO scene because that's the key word everyone's searching for. But yeah, if you want to see that, you know what? It's about a 15 minute video. It's really low quality. I should probably redo it because it's a really good scene. It's a really because it explains a lot of what's happening here. And I'll try to link that in the first comment. I'll pin a comment. At the end of the show. But you have any thoughts on Matthew?

1:24:46 Well, things strange things happening in war zones isn't anything new. You look throughout history, there's some weird stuff that happens around battlefields, and that's simply because of the toll of life. The trauma that takes place there. We've heard from various ufologists will even admit that if you've got a traumatic situation, you're more likely to have some type of an encounter with entities or UFO. I get more traumatic than a battlefield on any age where people are dying left and right and it seems to be total chaos or isn't really any rhyme or reason. You know, it's not like that bullet is necessarily discriminating between the good good guys, the bad guys. Everybody's going at that point. So, yeah, there's been historically. There's a precedent to to just seeing weird things in general happen on battlefields.

1:25:49 So not surprising that it's ongoing today. And specifically with the UAP, and we've covered it already on this channel, is that the first UFO sightings in this country were after the atomic bombs were dropped and they've been seen near nuclear missile silos. So there's something about and that's absolutely right about the death toll. I personally am of the belief that any massive loss of human life is in some way usually engineered and is in part an occult sacrifice, blood sacrifice has always been a thing. And you think of something like World War One or World War Two, the amount of death. And that must have delighted Satan, because there's something about our minds that it's weak, that it can be broken by methods that we don't fully understand.

1:26:38 And that's what like, you know, the MK Ultra and the Monarch programming and things like that, they take people, especially, and this is abhorrent, but children and break their minds so that they can do all sorts of things and, you know, ultimately the only protection is reliance on Christ and the Holy Spirit. That's the only thing that we're going to have to fight against, because ultimately these events, yes, they're physical events, but we're told that we don't war against flesh and blood, we're warring against spirits. And we're not spirits. We don't have we can put on the spiritual armor, but the person that fights for us is the spirit and is the creator. And that's that's who we have to rely on. So powers and principalities of darkness, terrible, terrible things. That's what we're warring against. But we have a we have a much better, much more powerful God than that is right there. And that's that's what that's what I love about it is that it's the most obvious thing that explains that what this thing is, is the fact that when bad things happen in this genre of of reality, calling out in Jesus's name always stops it.

1:27:49 Always. It's not Buddha. It's not Krishna. It's not some other strange God. But calling out in Jesus's name with a relationship with him will always stop it. Well, even then, we must be on the same wavelength tonight because you just even without a relationship, it seems there's been plenty of cases. And I know Joe's. Joe Jordan's in the chat, plenty of cases. I'm sure that he's run into where people who may not even have a faith necessarily in Christ or a relationship with him, but they remembered like, oh, my mother taught me to cry out to Jesus and they do it and it stops and then that starts their relationship. So, you know, Jesus Christ is the one the one person in the universe that will never let us down. We will all let each other down. I will let you down. You will let me down. But Christ will never let us down. So anybody, if you're watching this and we don't say it enough in each episode, but if you have an encounter with entities or you're being harassed, call out to Jesus Christ.

1:28:49 Start to study his word. Ask him to lead you to him and he will without fail. Yeah, and do cultivate the relationship. I was going to say, even having that my mother told me to do this type of a thing. I mean, I think you're you're obeying one of the Ten Commandments and doing that. You're showing respect to what your your mother has told you this is a proper way of dealing with it. So there is some level of faith that's going into that action. I don't think that we can necessarily throw around the name of Jesus as some type of a magic spell or it's like a talisman, because you even see biblically speaking, the Ark of the Covenant was lost to the Philistines when it was paraded out simply as an object that says, OK, if we put this Ark out there, we went to battle. No, that's not how this works. This is this is God. This is he's the one who's fighting and winning. So we need to make sure that we. Yeah, but they were also immersed. They were also so cursed that they gave it back because they're like, get this out of our city. Yeah, exactly. I was trying to I wasn't trying to have the last word.

1:30:03 Yeah, there's no magic spells and obviously don't take the Lord's name in vain. But this works without fail. I think it should be. The name of Christ works without fail. Full stop. Full stop. Absolute. Absolute. That's all I got. Matthew, do you want to have last word or pray us out? Yeah, I'd love to pray us out. OK, Father in heaven, thank you so much for giving us this opportunity to come on the air, spend time with these wonderful people watching the show. Anybody who's watching the replay, I want to say a special prayer to our audience. Thank you so much. Thank you for bringing us together as a community and providing us with this zone where we can talk about this kind of a thing with a biblical lens.

1:30:54 It can be very strange and dark and confusing. But when we shine the light upon this subject through your word, through our faith in you, it becomes so much clearer. And I believe that we are well equipping ourselves to deal with this deception. And I pray that we can reach people in our lives, strangers on the street, springing as many people as we possibly can, going to the highways and the byways and offering that invitation to the Supper of the Lamb in Jesus's name. Amen. Amen. Matthew, Eric, thank you so much again for being here. Stick around. Let's do a little post show for the Patreon and we'll be right back. Guys, I want to thank you for sticking around and watching the program tonight. If you thought this was valuable, please join us on Discord, patreon.com slash strange normal.

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