0:00 Chad, tell me, what in the world started you down this path, number one? And number two, where has it led you? I mean, obviously, your history. I know where it leads, obviously, but where has it led you as far as productions? Where have you worked, and what have you done? What gives you legitimacy in this, I guess you could say? I actually started working on a radio show, Fourth Watch Radio Network, doing a show called Remnant Revolution. With Justin Full and BDK, as well as Kay Carswell. And probably about nine months down the road after I started doing that, Kay had reached out to me and asked if I would be her co-host on Deception Detection Radio. So I did that for probably about four years. And the next thing I know, I started working more and more with Justin and Wes.
0:53 After that, I just continued doing Deception Detection Radio while they were working at Skywatch. And whenever they... After about a year working at Skywatch, I decided to leave. They reached out to me and asked if I wanted to do another film. And I had an idea about covering a group within the United States government that most people nowadays know as the Collins Elite. But that's not the name that they actually went by. Their actual moniker was called The Writers. And a friend of mine, Ray Boucher, was the pastor who actually dealt with these individuals. They contacted him. And he put them in contact. He put them in contact with Linda Moulton Howell. And they corresponded for several years. And like I said, these people were direct people from the DOJ, the Pentagon, that were seeing that the United States government was actually engaged in satanic rituals.
1:48 And that they were not only successful, but they were deriving something from it. And it alarmed them to such a degree. These were actual Christians that were part of the programs. They had reached out, and they were very cautious about who they contacted. They actually contacted Ray Boucher because he was a pastor, but he was also a MUFON researcher. Huh. Okay, so is this group still... How long ago was this? I believe this was back in the early 90s, late 80s, early 90s. Wow. I didn't realize it was still going on. Do you know if it's still going on? As far as the satanic rituals and stuff? Well, I assume not. Are you talking about the actual individuals, the rioters, the ones that people know as the Collins elite?
2:41 I believe that the individuals that reached out to Ray Boucher have both passed away. Both passed away. That would make sense, as they said that the... I just recently read... Who was it that was saying this? Some prominent, like Elizondo or someone, or Mellon. Was saying that the previous generations have passed the torch. And they have prevented us from bringing this out, or something like that. Just recently. But I'm really fascinated to hear that the Collins elite, which is what I knew them as, and I was trying to figure out how in the world to get a hold of some of these people in the government. Because we know, as far as what has been let out in the last 10 years or so, actually in the last few years, that Elizondo had some serious trouble with his superiors in the Pentagon, because they believed it was absolutely demonic.
3:39 And so I'm wondering if that wasn't a branch, if you will, of the Collins elite, of the rioters. R-Y-D-E-R-S? R-I-D-E-R-S? What was it, the rioters? Yeah, W-R-I-T-E-R-S. Rioters. Oh, okay. Rioters. Yeah, rioters. They call themselves the... That name... The Collins elite was actually coined... That was a moniker that a author by the name of Nick Redfern had coined and, you know, put to them, but that was never what they were known as. Huh. In fact, I have the actual documents that were exchanged between Ray Boucher and Linda Moulton Howe and the rioters. I have all those documents. Ray Boucher has given those to me. So many questions. Well, I just have so many paths to go on here.
4:27 Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait. But number one question on my head is, Linda Moulton Howe? I didn't realize... She's not Christian, is she? I mean, she has her own YouTube channel, and the only thing I know about Howe is that she has this massive YouTube channel. Well, she was one of the biggest proponents or one of the biggest people that was talking about the cattle mutilations. Okay, she was a reporter. Because, yeah, she was a reporter who started out talking a lot about the cattle mutilations, so that was one of the reasons why he reached out to her. Because he had been working with her previously, you know, through Muthon. So that's why he approached Linda Moulton Howe. Because she had way more contacts and knew a lot more than most people did. So did this... I imagine that she wasn't on the same path that they were at this thing's demonic.
5:17 So how did that work out? Do you know anything behind that history? She did not write it off at all whatsoever. She took them very solidly at their word. And she... It actually opened a lot of... or set her down past. And that's the thing. You find out about a lot of these researchers who start out, whether they're Christian or not, they quickly start, you know, going into that direction because that's where the information will take you. I don't know if you're familiar with... Yeah, I don't know if you're familiar with TrueStream Media, Aaron and Melissa Dykes. No. Well, she... both of them, they both used to work for Alex Jones. They started their own... Website called TrueStream Media, and they've been doing documentaries and tons of videos for probably a little over a decade.
6:06 But she, through all her research, she finally came to realize that, you know, this stuff is actually true. It's evil. It's demonic. And Ghan Shamira from Face Like the Sun actually interviewed her, and she gave her testimony of how she came to Christ by all their research. We went off on a rabbit trail. Well, and I love it. So, let's see. Let's get back to the trail here. We were talking about your history. You went through this, and you got in contact with these individuals who know the writers, the writers. And then what happened? Well, the whole... how I came about doing the film that I actually did, when we had finished up Higher Entities, I did interviews with Keith at End Times Productions.
7:03 While we were there doing interviews with him, I was just basically tagging along for the ride, just hanging out. And after both Justin and Wes got done doing their interviews, and, you know, Keith was like, Hey, jump over here and let me record you real quick. And I was like, I'm not here to do anything. I'm just here hanging out. And he's like, nah. He goes, you know too much. He's like, get over here and talk about Skinwalker Ranch or something. So, I did this interview. It was like 20 minutes long. And it ended up being... It ended up being... It ended up being one of the biggest interviews that he had on his channel. And, yeah, then I started, you know, thinking about, okay, what am I going to do now since me and Justin and Wes have gone our separate ways? And I was like, well, I guess I'll do something on Skinwalker Ranch. So, I started looking into this. And what really took me down the rabbit trail and got me to do this whole film was this whole thing about the hitchhiker phenomenon. And I quickly learned that this hitchhiker phenomenon...
7:58 And I quickly learned that this hitchhiker phenomenon wasn't just going on at Skinwalker Ranch. In fact, some of the early pioneers that encountered it were the remote viewers. And I was like, okay, this is bizarre. You know, the remote viewers, because Peer Rich brought in a remote viewer by the name of Uri Geller. And while Uri Geller was being studied by this scientist, they wanted to see how, you know, how was he able to do all this remote viewing and how is he able to, you know, grasp information from a distance. Um, while they were research... Or researching him, the scientists that were monitoring him, they started having the hitchhiker phenomenon going on in their homes. They started having poltergeist activities, started seeing cryptids and orbs and all sorts of bizarre shadow creatures and different things. Well, then I found out through more research that it actually goes back even further than that. The first person that I was able to find that actually encountered this was Kenneth Arnold, who was the one who coined the phrase flying saucers.
8:58 Who saw the nine craft flying over Mount Rainier, Washington. In his autobiography, he talks about this poltergeist activity and all sorts of bizarre things going on in their home. Even his daughter has gone and done interviews and talked about this and said that, yes, there was poltergeist activity and all sorts of bizarre things going on in their home after he had the encounter out there. Wow, full circle. And so he's the one that saw this, that first saw this flying saucer. Which actually wasn't a saucer. It was just this big round thing. And the news took it and called it a saucer. Right? That's the same guy we're talking about. Yeah. And even there was other researchers that came out later on and said that Kenneth Arnold and Jack Parsons were actually flying buddies. So then it gets even weirder when you start looking at that. And that they had a mutual friend named Robert Goddard who lived in Roswell who also was a rocket pioneer.
9:58 Who used to do a rocket test out there in the exact same area that Jack Parsons and his suicide squad used to do their rocket test out at Devil's Gate Dam. Back where, and every time he would do a rocket experiment or a test out there, he would do a ritual for the Greek god Pan. What? So you got, and again, keep in mind that right after Kenneth Arnold had his sighting. It was two weeks later, not even two weeks later, that the Roswell incident occurred. Yeah. So now, like I said, this all came about whenever Sam Bruno, who was in the Air Force, he did an investigation into Jack Parsons. Because Parsons had had his top secret security clearance taken away from him. And then he went to work for Howard Hughes. While he was working at Howard Hughes, he got his top secret clearance back. But what got them to investigating him was that. He had taken top secret documents without permission.
11:01 So then they started investigating him. Come to find out that he's mixed up with this organization called the Lima and the OTO, the Ordo Templi Arianus. And that they are doing these rituals. And that he had been doing a particular ritual with an individual by the name of L. Ron Hubbard. Who created Scientology. What? Yes, this is the actual AFOSI investigation. Headed by Sam Bruno. And they uncovered all this. Is there a documentary based on this history? Because I'd love to dig into this. There's quite a bit of it. I've seen segments of it on different TV shows like Ancient Aliens and all sorts of other ones. The information's out there. But I have quite a bit of it in the film. So I have actual documents being shown and talking about this.
11:52 I go all into it. So like I said, this information's out there. It's not hard to uncover. Just do a little digging and you'll find it. And like I said, it's so crazy, you can't make this stuff up. Oh no. Oh no. I know enough about that. I'm sure about that. Tell us again, for the audience's sake, what was the name of the documentary that you made? The documentary I made is called Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm. Okay. Very good. And that's available on, do you remember the locations you can find it on? It's on Vimeo. Vimeo. But you can do a Google search and you can just look up Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm. And it's very easy. In fact, I'll give you the link so that way you can put it in the description box if you want. Very good. Very good. Wow. Okay.
12:43 So how did you get from, and so that brings you up to current speed, right? Right now, that's where you are. You are at the process of making your own film, doing your own documentary. You're doing your own discoveries and doing your own documentaries, right? Yeah. And I just, that one's been out now for a few months, came out in November. The next one that I'm planning on doing is going to be on The Nine. I'm going to get into all the Nine as far as like Psalms 82, the lowercase gods that it's spoken of in there. That when he says, you know, you shall die like men and casting this judgment over the lowercase gods, the 72 gods of the nation. I'm going to get into all that because there's nine gods that rule over all the other lowercase g gods. And you see these nine repeated over and over and over throughout every pantheon, every civilization.
13:39 There's the nine that rule over Mount Olympus, the nine that rule over Egypt, the nine that rule over Mesopotamia, the nine that rule over India and so on. And it just goes on and on. Well, then you start getting into what Aleister Crowley talked about. He said, I worship my master Lucifer and his Augustus council. Well, then you also have Purerich, who was part of Edgewood Arsenal and all this other stuff and, you know, mixed up with Uri Geller and the remote viewers. But he he got into a whole different part of it because he was working with different people and they were channeling these entities called the Council of Nine. And when you get into that, one of the biggest proponents or one of the biggest people that was a member of that, as well as the roundtable and Lab Nine, was Gene Roddenberry. And where do you think he got a lot of the ideas of Star Trek? Yeah, that came from the Council of Nine.
14:34 In fact, when you look at a lot of stuff in Star Trek, you see it over and over. The NCC 1701, one plus seven plus zero plus one equals nine. Nine crew members on the bridge at all times. Then you have Deep Space Nine. You have the nine Bajoran gods that were inside the wormhole and so on. And like I said, it just goes deeper and deeper and deeper. And it's just like you cannot make this stuff up. And the pilot episode of the latest series of Star Trek has some very, very interesting stuff in it. I don't know if you've ever seen it yet, but I did a whole episode on that just because it was it was talking about basically how there is. They're up there and there's this world that's down there. It's a little less is seeing something in the sky. And it's a complete reverse of what's happening right now and what we're seeing. So it's seeding the mind with this idea that soon something's appearing in the councils and will tell us exactly what's going on.
15:26 And it's very interesting when you hear Gene Roddenberry talking about when he created the character Spock, that he wanted a Satan like character and they wanted him to have pointy ears. And then when you even hear was it Leonard Nimoy talking about how he came up with the whole, you know, live long and prosper hand signal. He actually got that from Jewish priests when he was a kid. He said that the Jewish priests would be sitting there and they'd be all have their hands out like this and they'd be. Chattering or something. He said that that just stuck in his mind. And so that's that's where he got that from. Oh, wow. So, wow. Ah, fascinating. So he so so he wanted a Spock to be a Satan like character, but Spock follows all the rules. And so it's a reverse of a Satan like character. Yeah.
16:21 It's so Gnostic, man. And so that's really fascinating that. Yeah, well, that's that's just how TV is nowadays, especially Star Trek. I saw that coming right out. But interesting. Interesting. So. I got to ask you another question. How did you I sent you a message and I said, hey, a long time ago we were talking about this and I've been very, very tardy. I'm trying to get a hold of you because I've been very busy in my life. But I get it. The I you sent a message back. You said, is this Brad from Little Light Studios? And. I'm I'm I parted ways with them and I'm doing my own thing. But how in the world did you put that together? That's what really baffled me. Oh, no. I mean, I knew that there was a guy by the name of Brad that worked over at Little Light Studios.
17:10 I'd seen you over there talking and you talked more about UFOs and aliens and and how this is all tied in with the Bible. And that was one of the things. So I watch Little Light Studios. I watch, you know, light exposing darkness. And I think I told you I interviewed. I had interviewed Danique. Oh, that's right. I believe. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm very familiar with the Little Light Studios. But, yeah, I've been following you for a while. So I knew who you were. And I was like, is this Brad from Little Light? You're like, what do you know about Little Light? How did you know that? That's something that that's really interesting. And so it's full circle. I mean, when you get in, what I realized was when you get talking about the subject, the pool of people is so small, at least right now. It's growing quite rapidly. Because this topic is becoming more mainstream. But even even the people that are big will will say, oh, I know that guy.
18:06 For instance, Danny Sheehan. I have been in talks with him over and over again to try to get just to pick his brain. Because I know he's he's he's on the forefront of presenting the religious idea about this stuff in completely the wrong manner. And so I'm concerned about him. And I want to I want to say I want to I want to say. You know, what are you doing here, man? But he doesn't want to talk to me. And he he'll say things like, oh, I know that guy. I know that guy. So I've talked quite a bit to his secretaries and stuff. But when you like I said, when you get into the pool of these things, everyone knows each other, it seems. Yeah. And you'll find that out real bit. Was it like whenever I was looking at this remote viewing and then come to find out, you know, like Jacques Vallee, how put off and all them were a part of nids. And they were part of the research going out at Skinwalker Ranch.
18:59 It's like, wait a second, we got ufologists and we got and then the the colonel that was out there also that was looking into shaman and and using like psychic weapons almost. I mean, because they got into the whole thing that that whole remote viewing program, it went from being like psychic spies to psychic assassins real fast. And like I said, most people have no clue. This is actually based. Based on real stuff. You know, the whole TV show Stranger Things is actually based on Montauk Camp Hero. And like I said, what was going on out there was not too far from what was going on on the television show. Wait, wait, wait. Montauk Camp Hero. What is that? I don't even know what that means. What what what words did you just say? There's a there was an Air Force base in New York called Camp Hero. And supposedly it was.
19:55 Retired in the very early 80s and that, you know, shut down, was decommissioned. But that's not the story. The person there's a person I can't think of his name right off the top of my head right now. But he wrote a book about the Philadelphia experiment and he actually worked out there and said that they were doing all this research trying to use a sage radar tower to do things as far as like manipulate people and that they could cause groups of people to gather. They could. Cause people to go on crime sprees. They could cause animals to run in and out of town. I mean, just all sorts of bizarre stuff. But then it gets really, really bad. In fact, Christopher Garantano has done a excellent job on a documentary called The Montauk Chronicles. If you're not familiar with that, check that out. It'll get you up to speed really fast. And what they were doing out there, they were taking they were grabbing kids off the street like runaways and they were torturing these kids and doing all sorts of cyclists. And they were doing all sorts of things that were psychological as well as physical torture on these children and even Russ Dizdar, I don't know if you know who Russ Dizdar is, he wrote a book called The Black Awakening, he is a really good Christian researcher, he and his book dealing with Satanists and SRA victims, he actually came right out and he got right down to the nitty gritty and said the reason why they do this to these children, it's not just to torture them, they are shattering their minds to open them up to demonic possession.
21:23 That is the whole. The whole key, you know, kit and caboodle, when you get into the SRA is that they are literally trying to shatter the minds of these children through ritual abuse so that they can open them up to demonic possession. And they found out that by doing this, that these kids could have these abilities. So like what you see on the TV show, it's like children like 11, ill, you know, they, yes, these kids had abilities that they could remote view, they could do different things, they could cause things to manifest and appear. I mean, you know, you could see a child suddenly crouching on a chair out of nowhere, and they had this specific chair called the Montauk chair that whenever they sat in this chair it enhanced their abilities. So they, some of them talked about going off world, some of them talked about going to other dimensions, some of them talked about, you know, they could just think of things and things would just materialize out of nowhere. and the last time that they were actually before the facility was completely shut down there was a child by the name of Duncan who was one of the kids that they did experiments on and he had some thought of some creature and this is where it gets bizarre because they said that this creature just appeared out of nowhere and it went on a rampage and depending on who you asked everybody saw something different they said some said it was nine feet tall others said it was 30 feet tall and they described a big hairy Bigfoot that was just on a rampage destroying everything and supposedly killed a few people and that until they actually unplugged the chair and turned the chair off it just went on a rampage pretty much but after that they pretty much destroyed the program or put it to bed and that was the end of it supposedly but like I said this is where the TV show Stranger Things came from in fact the Duffer Brothers the original script was called Montauk they were actually sued over the name because somebody said that they had that they had stolen information out of their script and that they had plagiarized their their story so yeah if you look into that that's very easy to uncover as well that it was the original story or the in fact Netflix told them they had to change the name so wow wow wow wow opened up a door that I can uh really dig into that's that's really fascinating Stranger Things based on reality that's something I didn't see coming I mean you see this all the time Hollywood uses it he uses reality and then mixes it with uh with fantasy and suddenly becomes a real thing or it becomes a fantasy uh film but it's based on some strange real story that's happened that's nothing new Disney does it all the time too but um okay so that's interesting uh and how did you get to know um Joe Jordan oh I've known Joe for several years um I've interviewed him on Deception Detection Radio and at the time that I interviewed him you know I knew I'd seen previous clips of him talking about how people call out in the name of Jesus and that they could stop these interactions whether it be sleep paralysis or even um you know closing the door encounters just different things and that was the thing that I was fascinated because he at that time he was already up to like 400 cases and by the time I reached out to him and interviewed him he was like I'm up to like 600 and something now I'm getting close to 700 I'm like okay all right but yeah Joe is a phenomenal guy he uh he uh he's the real deal and uh the fact that he was a MUFON researcher for I don't know a couple of decades at least and that uh
25:15 his research is just so solid I mean yeah it's it's probably one of the key and that's the thing that's why I put it right at the end of the film because as I take you through all this stuff and show you from A to Z that you know yes this stuff is real yes it's very very dark very demonic and that it's you know not something to be toyed with or meddled with but at the end I want people to realize hey there is hope you know you can bring an end to this and I think that's the thing that's really important to us and that if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior you know just calling out in the name of him yeah you can make it stop but why not end it permanently and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and that way you never have to be bothered by these things ever again every year he seems to go out and he does a several different series and one of the series that he did was actually at um New Mexico Albuquerque Roswell that's what it was and um he he uh just finished that I was supposed to go out there and see him but I I got mixed up in other other important tasks here at home but um very cool guy and very very good guy yeah I really like Joe and uh his research is top-notch and it's uh it's that's why I made sure that I put as much in there with him talking about this and like you when we were talking on the phone that first time when we got on the phone and you were just like do you know about it I was like about the people seeing dead people that they know or whatever you're like yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's something that I don't think a lot of people uh bring up especially if they're if they're not Christian uh but I I haven't seen very many Christian researchers pick it out either the first time I mentioned it to Joe um he was like this is a real thing and let me tell you about the instances that I had seen and uh and he he told me a few of his um his experiences not with it but with other people that have related to him it was very fascinating do you uh how did you find out about it was it was it Joe or or how how uh how'd you come across that information it was actually Joe it was a um a um what was it a interview that he did with Doreen Virtue I believe is her name and when I heard that I was like oh I gotta go back and listen to this again did he just say what I think he just said like oh yeah he did yeah and so they're they're manifesting and appearing as as anything they they want basically that's that's a really spooky thing it really throws a real wrench in everything because now you can't believe anything unless it's uh it claims to know the truth it's not just it's not just yeah it's not just dead people either if you look at some of the research from like Carla Turner I know you probably heard of Carla Turner a a UFO researcher um her book she talks about how there was an encounter with her daughter-in-law and her son and the daughter had gotten out of the car but she didn't remember how she got out of the car she's standing there and she sees what looks like this portal but it's like it's camouflaged almost like the predator creature but it's just this door and she sees what is her husband standing off in front of her and he's like come here you know I want to show you something and she's like no I don't want to see you i want to show blendem that there's there's something going on over there I don't know what that is and finally she turned around and she looked back at the car and what she did she saw her husband sitting there at the steering wheel just frozen and was not moving and that was not her husband that was standing there in front of her and it was apparently trying to get her to come so like I said you got yeah and even I don't know if you know Derek and Sharon Gilbert from Skywatch TV uh Sharon had a story where she said that one night uh something was in the unseren bed, posing as her husband, Derek. And she knew right away, just by looking at it, she's like, you're not my husband. I don't know what you are, but you're not my husband. And he kept trying to tell her, come over here and sit next to me. And she started rebuking him in Jesus' name, and it just disappeared. This is going to happen more and more. And I think that's what the world's not prepared for. It's not prepared to deal with the psychological aspect of this whole thing.
29:40 That's really interesting. Who are the two people that you said have seen this on Skywatch TV? Are we talking about Derek and Sharon? Yeah, Derek and Sharon. So Derek and Sharon, do they still run a show on Skywatch? Yeah, he does the 5 and 10, and they have a couple other shows. And he also does his own, A View from the Bunker. I recently went on there and did an interview with him. It's still garnering a lot of hits on YouTube right now. Okay. And so they're privy to this idea that dead people aren't necessarily good. Dead people aren't good. I'll say this. Derek is probably one of the best researchers I've ever come across. And I don't say that very lightly about many people. Gary Wayne would probably be another one. But yeah, he's on the academic level. So if I come across academic research, I usually shoot it his way because I know that he'll appreciate it. And he does the same. He keeps me apprised of a lot of stuff. And he does the same. He keeps me apprised of a lot of stuff. And he does the same. He keeps me What's on your plate right now that you're excited about? What's your passion?
30:53 The next project that I hope to do is going to be on the 9. So like I said, I'm going to get into that and talk about the council. Now, I know we briefly got into a little bit of it. But yeah, when you really start looking into this whole council 9, who all is mixed up, did you know that Lee Harvey Oswald was part of this group? Peter Levenda's book, Sinister Forces, he's got three books. But if you read the book, you'll see that he's got three books. And he's got the first one. It's on the 9. And like I said, when you start seeing all this and how they were all contacting these entities, and like I said, Gene Roddenberry, I mean, he literally, he was always writing stuff down. And like I said, it wasn't long after he left the group that he just so happened to write this series called Star Trek that just seemed to blow up and become utterly huge. I got another one. I got another one to blow your mind. One of the biggest things that I came across that blew my mind was the book called Star Trek. I got another one. I got another one to blow mind was when i was looking into the remote viewers and found out that the ones who started it we're talking about ingo swan and hal putoff they were both ot7s of scientology really in fact yes in fact a lot of the techniques that they use for remote viewing came out of scientology oh no yeah that one blew my mind in fact you know their the their golden boy pat price who was one of the most well-known out of the remote viewers he was an ot3 the everyone's in the same circles in this thing how did you find that out uh that one i will i'll send you a link it was a book about uh here let me just pop over here real quick yeah i'll look at it up tell you the book is called the search for superman an extraordinary journey of psychic exploration for the this uh film that i just did uh i've read about 15 different books and out of those 15 books i had about 480 pages of notes that i had to whittle down to about an 88 page script so yeah a lot of it didn't even make it into the film so that's that's the hardest part about this when you go to to to do it it's like okay yeah it's too long i gotta start cutting things there was something you mentioned when we talked on the phone i don't know if you can say we can edit this part out um but there was something you mentioned about the military it was really surprising to me but i don't know you said there was a story was it uh uh greg renrich lieutenant colonel greg renrich yeah yeah i'm talking about okay yeah um he's uh individual that's um he's an individual that i've worked trying to get into higher entities to come on and and give me an interview because he worked in black ops and has supposedly worked at uh s4 s20 um numerous underground facility bases of what they call dumbs deep underground military bases but he talked about how when he went and worked like when they brought him out to uh s4 was the first one they worked at which is the one out of area 51 they made him sign an affidavit saying that in these underground facilities they're not allowed to use the name jesus christ even if they stub their toe and later on he found out why he said that there was giants in these underground facilities and that some of them were 15 feet tall some were as tall as 25 feet tall and he said one day he actually heard one of them talking to a group of scientists that were working there and he just kind of caught bits and pieces of it but he said he did hear him the the giant refer to itself as a nephilim and he said he was a giant and he said he was a giant and he said he and said that they were preparing for an intergalactic war with god and they actually believed that they were going to win wow they believe that see they will pretend to be anything that so they that's interesting so did did they um you told me a story also about that see i hadn't heard that part but you told me a story also about how um there was someone in there that they wanted out can you talk about that a bit oh yeah you're talking about standeo who uh worked for the the fbi over in australia and he actually went into or worked in a deep underground facility over there in australia and when we went and shot with him and filmed him and higher entities off camera he told us this account uh this one story man i wish we got that on video that was incredible
35:42 him telling the story and he he was like uh because yeah there's a lot of things he kept saying he's like i can't mention this person's name i can't talk about this because these people are still in there and i might get them killed and i don't want to but this one he told us that um they were you know how whenever they uh like hospitals where they're teaching students and they'll be doing like an operation and there's people the students are up above and they're watching and looking down he said it was something like that but they they weren't doing an operation they were just in there observing and there was these entities that were in there but he said that they were taller than normal size humans and he said that they look like us but the only way that you can tell that they're not normal size humans is that they're not human is if they get out in the sunlight he said their their skin glimmers and is shined and there's like a sheen to it he said that uh it was almost like that movie twilight twilight yeah and so when he's sitting here telling me this that's what i'm thinking i'm like it sounds like the vampires from twilight or something and uh he's like he goes but they were doing something he's like we were just standing there in the room was it a surgery and then it wasn't a surgery he's he didn't he never specifically said that but he said that they were doing something and they were they were trying to put up on a boosting to normal so and while it is not normal scale they put up this thing and it turns out that they were doing something else that they wanted so he flowing back to them was he didn't understand what it was they were doing he just said that they were in there observing this is all it would say and he said somebody came into the room behind them and when this person came into the room he stood there behind him for like a couple minutes and he said that all of a sudden they all just stopped whatever it was that they were doing and It was later, like maybe 30 minutes or an hour later, Stan said he just happened to run into the guy in the hallway. Wait, wait, before you tell why, what were – they all turned around at the same time?
37:34 All these giant beings turned around and looked at this thing, this person? All at the same time. And the person was perched up on the top, right? Yeah, he was standing up there at the top behind Stan and the rest of them. He was directly behind them in this room. Okay, so I want to make sure people understand that. They were watching something. This person came in, and they came in, they saw these things down below, and all of a sudden these things only turned around and looked at him and said, get him out of here, and they ushered him out. Why? Why did they do that? Well, when Stan ran into him later on and he asked him, he said, you know, hey, what happened back there? Why did they kick you out of the room? And he goes, I don't know. He's like, but as soon as I walked in there and he said, I laid eyes on those things, he's like, I just started. He was praying and rebuking them in the name of Jesus.
38:24 And so he was sitting there praying and rebuking them in the name of Jesus the entire time, and that's what freaked him out, and they kicked him out. He wasn't praying out loud or anything. He was just, in his head, was rebuking them and saying, you know, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. Wow. And this is in one of those dumbs that he was in? Yeah, one of the dumbs over in Australia. Yeah. Australia. Interesting. Huh. Man. Okay, so who was it? I want to provide some little bits, because that's so bizarre, and at the same time, it's so fascinating. How much legitimacy can we derive from that? What was the guy's name, you said? It was... Stan Deo. Stan Deo. And he was... Tell me a little bit about his background. Sorry, this is my research person digging.
39:19 No, no, no. He worked for the FBI for... For quite a period of time. He's also in the military, and like I said, his credentials are the real deal. He's got a book. He's been on several podcasts with, what is it, Hagman and Hagman and a bunch of them, so he's pretty well known. And, in fact, I could even put you in touch with Stan Deo if you'd ever like to sit down and talk with him, because he'll blow your mind. Yeah, I'd love to talk to him. Man, you are a wealth of resource. My goodness. How long have you been doing this? I started doing this probably about 2013. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, that's about 10 years, 12, 11 years now, almost 12. Wow, very good. Anything else come to your head that you think would be interesting to talk about?
40:11 Or what questions am I asking that I haven't asked yet, I guess? I mean, we've covered quite a bit of ground, but like I said, there's tons of different things I could talk about. Just because I've been reading a lot of research from other people that have been doing this far longer than me. So that's the thing, is you never know what it is you might say or something that you might ask that will bring something to mind. Because right now, I mean, I'm just kind of drawing blanks. I've already done an interview earlier with Tony Merkel, and we went probably almost two hours. Very good. Well, I won't keep you too long, but I thought it would be good to introduce you to the crowd. I'm going to do this for Patreon first, and then I'll throw it out publicly probably a little time after that. But I need to get my viewers the information first, my investors, I guess you could say.
41:10 Yeah. Very good. Well, very, very good. I do appreciate it. And Chad, I follow you on Facebook, and you always have very interesting posts, you and another friend of mine. Is there anybody? And this is also a question I like to ask people. Is there anybody I should be following on any social media account, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, that you would say, wow, this guy is on it, and he's deriving a lot of pertinent information? Christians, or if they're not Christian, tell me that they're not Christian, that you should check them out and say they're on it. I mean, I follow a vast majority of people. I mean, I watch Joe Rogan. I'll watch Jimmy from Bright Insight and a lot of these different people. But then there's a lot of Christian researchers out there that I follow quite extensively and that are considered colleagues. And we talk private messages and stuff like that or emails.
42:08 But we're always like if I come across something and I know that one of my Christian researcher friends might be into this information, then I will definitely share it personally with them and make sure that their eyes get on it and that they get to see it. You know, I see here the same way. It's like when I posted the Tucker Carlson interview, it was like a day later. You are getting together with your friend and doing the episode, the live stream. And I was like, he's like he was talking about this. But then, you know, it's like he was unsure about Hollow Earth. And then, you know, also there was something else that I sent you something. And I was just like, you know, I just knew that you would appreciate that. So I was like, I'll just send that to Brad and let him check it out. Yeah. And in this topic. You know, we might have differences in opinion of things, but they're not they're not significant. I mean, because, you know, even inside my own my own Patreon group, the Discord, the private community of a hundred people that are in there.
43:05 And we all do the research. We have different views on things. But really, when it comes down to the essence of it, there is something coming. Revelation 13, it talks about I mean, excuse me, Revelation 16. There is a war coming and Revelation 13. It's all about worship. There's something. Worship worthy coming because worship is mentioned three or four times in that chapter, as well as other things. And there's there's a major, major, major issue. And if you can get you can get into the Nephilim, you can get into all this other stuff. And I might not agree with that. But really, does that even matter? We know what the end result is. We know that that this this is this is a demonic force and it's coming at us, whatever it calls us. Who cares what it calls us? It's still coming at us. And it still has these characteristics that we.
43:52 We can follow along. So absolutely. And that's the thing. It's like, you know, the whole thing that I know what it was with the other part that I reached out to you and talk to you about was the the Helena Blavatsky thing, because, you know, everybody gets into the Nazis and they talk about they they they always want to talk about eugenics and that they were all about white power. It's like, no, that's not what they believed. And that's not what they were all about. You know, you look at the symbology they were using, the ancient runes and the swastikas. The swastika, you know, we're talking like two thousand year old symbols. And, you know, what is that symbology tied in with, you know, not just the runic symbols, but even the swastika. And you look at the swastika and it's like, where do you see that? You see that with the Big Dipper in the sky and every three months it changes in the sky and it makes another part of the swastika. And so it's like and the only star out of that group in the Big Dipper is Polaris.
44:50 That's the one star. That does not move. So it's the fixed star that, you know, could possibly be where God sits, the throne of God, where he is sitting at his footstool. And that's the thing. It's like maybe this points to something that they lost. That's why this is such an ancient symbol that you find all over the earth. It's it's everywhere on every continent. You can't you can't go somewhere and not find it there. And so what I talk about is that, you know, when the Nazis were looking into this whole. Thing about the Aryans and were saying that they were the the descendants of the Aryans. Well, what who were the Aryans descendants of? They were descendants of the Atlanteans. Well, what do we know about the Atlanteans? Well, if you've read Helena Blavatsky's book, The Secret Doctrine, volume two in there, she translated a text called The Book of Dizzeon.
45:43 And in that text, it said that they built statues the height of their bodies that were nine yachties high. Well, a yacht. He translates. Translates to three feet. So nine times three is twenty seven feet tall. Well, that directly ties them into Genesis six and the Nephilim. So this is what the Nazis were all about and what they were trying to tap into was this Nephilim bloodline. I'm not convinced about the Nephilim yet because I don't I don't I think King James doesn't actually say Nephilim. It's actually says and I'm a big I'm a King James fan, not not the fanboys and nothing but. But I do believe that it's a it's an interesting book. But the King James talks about the giants as they were in the land and the different different words that they use in there, all the different ites and so on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the Nephilim, it's an interesting thing because I the giants in the land, I think that's from Numbers.
46:39 And there's also in Numbers. Amos. Also Amos. Yeah. But I'm like, if you go back to the actual the original word, there's only it's only using. One other place. And I think it's Numbers 1333. I'm trying to find it here. Giant son of Anak. I don't know if the hybrid idea survived the flood. And so that's what I'm trying to get at. I understand what you're I understand what you're getting at. And the thing is, is that you can also look at Og. You can also look at David and Goliath and Goliath brothers. And I mean, there's a lot to it. And like I said, this is a whole. This. This is going off on a whole different rabbit trail on its own right here. And like I said, I. Brother, I salute you. I salute you. You know, that's the thing is we don't always have to see out of everything.
47:30 Yeah, we really don't. As long as we as long as we agree on the meat and potatoes of it, which is Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and that we have to submit to him and they have to repent and to follow him, pick up our cross and die daily. And we're good. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying, too. I mean, there's a lot of nuances that we don't have to agree on. But ultimately, we're on the same. We're on the same path. We're trying to understand this, this bizarre thing that's happening, what I call the strange normal. I think that we're going to enter into something even greater than this very, very soon. Very good. Well, I do appreciate having you on. And I do want to get you on again here again. I was. Our initial conversation is always rocky because I don't know where you're at now. You don't know where I'm at. And we're trying to find and understand what's going on here. But I appreciate you. Thank you so much, Chad. This has been enlightening.
48:18 It's been. Very interesting. I mean, there's so many things I can I can bounce off of just out of this only only this conversation. And so let's talk again and keep keep me posted on anything that's happening, because like you said, if I see something that you post or something else that other people have posted that I'm following on here, I try to jump on it because the goal of the channel is to keep people updated of what is happening currently on this front from a Christian perspective, through the lens of the Bible. So fantastic. Great work. Thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. It's an honor.