0:00 i asked my mom to ask her spirit if we should fear these aliens the answer was these extraterrestrials they exist they welcome and any man that doesn't receive them should fear them okay well i'm really excited to have orlando on and uh for everyone that's going to be watching this this is a pre-recorded uh session we're going to be talking about an experience that orlando had it's going to be very interesting take it away uh orlando okay thank you so much for being here uh i'm very grateful uh for me for being translating uh adriana will and rad also and now i'm gonna share my story with you guys my name is orlando calafati i am 46 years old and i live in the state the state of rio de janeiro brazil um the basis of catholicism is the immortality of the soul is that there is a conscious soul after death and it is the same basis of spiritism there is an interrelation normally catholic people they have an affinity with the spirit so we were not okay so the question of the immortality of the soul right in a catholic church they believe in the immortality of the soul so that's in the way that um both of spiritualism and catholics uh combined got you and so the spiritualists church is that separate or i mean how is that different just what i understand and my viewers understand how is this catholic spiritual church uh different from the regular catholic church orthodox so for example what is the difference between the orthodox and the catholic church? is the difference is because the spiritualist church they have some kind of books that doesn't exist in the catholic church they have different beliefs very good okay very good can please continue and i grew up in this environment , very good okay very good please continue So I was born in all that culture, and my house, it was a center of Umbanda, which is a religion that came from Africa, that they actually do, like, I don't know how you say macumba, let me try to translate it, it's when you, it doesn't exist in English, because it's a very Brazilian African culture, it's like a sort of witchcraft, but it's more traditional for Africa, so what do they do?
4:32 This macumba, it's like they do works for fallen angels, which they believe are gods, and these angels, they work for some purpose, so let me give you an example, I go to a leader of an Umbanda, and I ask, I want you to kill this person, or I want you to do this job for me, and then they usually present alcohol, money, cigarettes, a dead chicken, in like a crossroads, you know, and then the work gets done, usually. So his house was a household that was a center of Umbanda. And we had a room in the back of the house, which is what the rituals were, and there was a big altar with several images, including an image of Jesus, among others. And in the back door of our house, there was the place where the rituals went on, and we had a lot of paintings, a lot of pictures, that included one of them being Jesus, and he was a leader, and then he... And in the back door of our house, there was a place where the rituals went on, and we had a lot of paintings, a lot of pictures, and he was a leader, and he was a dead chicken, and I ask, why didn't you kill Jesus, because he was dead? picture and there was also a bible that wasn't wasn't ever read uh usually we did it once a week these rituals and our household was open to help other people especially my mom my grandmother and uh if somebody comes to our house needing something we were always open to help uh and during these rituals uh usually my mom got possessed so usually for 30 minutes an hour and she didn't recall anything that happened during her procession and we had to tell her what happened can you uh explain what happened during the possession yes uh usually we started with songs and then many drums and my mom's not my mom but the fallen angel that possessed her he usually started spinning around sometimes yelling sometimes laughing uh and many times they were different spirits uh quite uncommon they are that was like a child and actually asked for candy sometimes like an Indian and the ritual it had to be part of we had to have like bows and arrows and things objects that Indians have sometimes elderly people so that kind of possession very random and sometimes these random spirits they asked us of some things like alcohol cigars cigarettes some type of food and then after that happened the miracle
9:07 started happening also so like pure miracles or even future predictions Where would the gifts go? Who would consume them? The person that was being possessed okay okay and anyway, we grew up like this we have a twin, a sister our childhood and our essence was marked by these rituals and for us it is normal and it is something divine and I was thrown with my twin brother I had a sister also, and we grew in this type of place that we actually thought it was common and divine. Orlando? Until my adolescence, I started to visit other spiritual houses. This is my house. Are you listening, Jean? I'm going to continue. I believe you're listening. Narancia. In my adolescence, I started to visit other spiritual houses.
10:20 And I saw that there were things that I considered wrong, like revenge against other people. Another spiritualist's house, like very different, the same culture, but different actions that I didn't concur with. Like they did revenge and vengeance stuff, like the kind of things I told that are famous for Umbanda, like bad things. And that was in your adolescence. And also, I didn't agree with certain things that my mother did in the rituals, the use of baby. And then I started to think if those were actually God-manifests, because even with my mom, there were things that I didn't concur with, like the alcohol, the cigars, cigarettes, the consumption of that.
11:29 And I asked, did this actually come from God? And then it got even further. I started seeing animal sacrifices and like very weird stuff. And I actually asked God if that was him asking the people to do that. And then it got even further. So, I decided to go to the Umbanda. And they said, well, we're going to be able to do this. And so, I did. I was able to do it. And they were like, hey, we're doing this. And at that time, because I was in the Umbanda back then, I had a lot of pre-nationalization, so I did a lot of pre-nationalization to do this. And then I said, why don't you come and teach? And then I was able to do it. So, I came to Umbanda. I went to the Umbanda again. And in the Umbanda, they came from the Umbanda.
12:26 And I was able to do it. And then I think I have to ask God to do that. And what I do is also really really helpful in my life. talk to them as if we were talking now and would you be able to hear it audibly and how did you how would you live with them So my mom actually saw them she had visions she had dreams but us of me and my brothers myself sister we only were able to talk when the the creature possessed my mom but she changed completely and i also asked them were you able to talk to the spirits anytime you wanted and uh usually sometimes yes sometimes no uh usually only on the arranged rituals there might be a delay because of his internet to illustrate this supernatural power i remember some that happened okay his internet is very choppy yeah i i can hear it okay so what did he say there was just to give an example for this this ritual that happened once with when my mom got a very spirit a very strong spirit that was her guide and we went to this forest to perform a work the the type of macumba work and then that's when he stopped talking and delayed 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g 4g What came to haunt him?
15:32 Cobra, various types of cobras. Okay, so as we went into this forest, my mom was already possessed by that Indian spirit, which was very strong, and that Indian spirit started whistling. And when he did that, many snakes started following him and praising him. What? I got chills, I literally got chills. Well, you can continue. And besides that, there were cures, there were strong predictions for our family and for people who were looking for this kind of spiritual support, and they really did happen. It's a very strong supernatural power. So after that happened, when the work started, then the miracles started happening also, like people that went to get cures, future prediction.
16:29 Future prediction. Future predictions that actually happened about our family, about some situation. So it was very strong. And I started growing up and started asking questions if that actually came from God. And I started growing up and started asking questions if that actually came from God. And I started asking questions if that actually came from God. And I started asking questions if that actually came from God. And I started asking questions if that actually came from God. And then I prayed for God and I made a decision that I wouldn't participate in those rituals anymore until I saw proof from God that those were actually divine practices.
17:24 How old was he at this time? He was 23, I forgot to say. And I started asking questions about those entities. And as time went by, I continued to go to the house of the spirits, once or twice, to the Catholic Church, once or twice, reading books of the spirits. There were many books of the spirits, by Allan Kardec, by Chico Xavier, among others. But I continued to frequent those spirituism houses and read their books. But I continued to frequent those spirituism houses and read their books. And just started frequenting, continued to frequent, but with the doubt in my mind. And just started frequenting, continued to frequent, but with the doubt in my mind. God answered me that I was a spiritual master with where to get help. And then I got married, my wife and I shared the same belief.
18:26 She was actually baptizing the spirituism with the fire of confession. And even though we were very wealthy, we had a very good financial wage, me and her both, we never had peace in our household, we were always fighting. And we felt that there was something missing, something very essential. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
19:42 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I took that book and read it. Until then, I didn't know why. And I don't know why I took that book and read it. I had great prejudice against the evangelicals. And I ended up reading that book. I don't even know why. He had like a prejudice for evangelists. But he ended up reading the whole book. And I realized that I didn't know much about Jesus.
20:32 The book awakened me to the will of the Bible. And I bought a Bible from the Catholic Church. So after I read that book, I came to know that I didn't know much about Jesus. So I bought a Bible, but it was a Catholic Bible. Because it has less stuff and it's changed. Through this Catholic Bible, I came to know that the Bible clearly abominates death. And I had the answer I wanted. I asked God the truth about Spiritism. And I convinced myself that Spiritism doesn't come from God. It comes from the other side. And it was with that Bible that I came to know that we aren't supposed to talk to the dead. That's terrible in the eyes of God.
21:21 So then I knew for sure that was a sign of God. That I shouldn't be involved with Spiritism. So pause for just a moment. So this is a key point. So this is very critical. He had been communicating with what he thought was the dead at this point. Because I understand that he had spiritualism happening. And snakes and all this other stuff. But can he elaborate on why he thought that the dead were speaking to him? That's a very good question. If we can, I'd like him to go to the number. Because it's easier to hear for you. And I think it would be better for our audience. Okay. He just disappeared.
22:24 Okay, okay. Okay. He's very sinister today, Giada. He's outdoing us here when we do it. He just disappeared. That's funny. Sorry. Orlando, you were showing up. And out of nowhere you disappeared. My apologies. No problem. He gave that day again. Ah, okay. He did something to the internet that he thinks it's going to get better. Oh, okay. And as soon as I knew that spiritism wasn't correct with God's belief in everything that's in the Bible, we burned everything that we had on spiritism.
23:34 Wow. And as soon as we did that, I went through an experience that I never had gone through before in my life. Okay, and then the terrible thing that happened was my wife was at work. She was in the military, and I was home alone. And I started having terrible, terrifying dreams with orgies, kids, murders. And as soon as I woke up in the morning, I had my eyes open, but I couldn't move.
24:52 It was like some creature was holding me down, trying to suffocate me. And I knew it was a fallen angel trying to take care of my body, trying to incorporate in me as he did with my mother. And I knew that it was a fallen angel trying to take over me and possess me like he did to my mom. And it was a very strong, very powerful thing. And I was very scared, very distressed, but I also started to feel a sense of relaxation, of pleasure, of impotence. And I almost allowed it to take care of me. And it was so strong. I actually felt anxious. I felt disturbed. At the same time, I felt pleasure, and I almost let the creature, pleasure, and I was actually starting to feel good, and I almost let the creature take over me.
25:49 But I consciously decided, in thought, not to surrender and ask for help from the Lord Jesus. And for the first time, I cried out in the name of Jesus, and that thing was gone. And I took a conscience, a very conscious decision in my thought that I wasn't going to let it. And then I called the name of Jesus Christ for his liberation, and it stopped. Wow. And it's funny that in 35 years of spiritism, I heard in the spiritist houses that I lived that I was a medium, that I was very blessed, that I had to develop my mediumship. And I wanted to, I wanted to be useful because of God, I wanted to do good to others, but it never happened, an incorporation.
26:44 And for 35 years, being involved with spiritism, I always heard people say that I was destined to be a medium, to connect with these fallen spirits. But in those 35 years, I never took a fallen angel into my body. I was never presented. And when I was sure that the spirit didn't come from God, that it was a demonic activity, Satan tried to keep me in his dominions out of fear. For me, it was the last card. He couldn't fool me anymore, so he tried to scare me. So after all the cards fell, and I actually knew for a fact that spiritism wasn't coming from God, wasn't involved. Anything God wants us to know, Satan changed his strategy.
27:40 He tried to win me by fear. And after all these things happened, me and my wife started going to the Catholic church. And I talked to the priest about... What's going on? So I can have some light. And I told the priest that I wanted to confess my sins, because that's what we believed in. What do I need to do to come clean? And the priest asked if I was married to the Catholic Church. I said no. He said I needed to marry the Catholic Church. And then the priest said, are you married in the Catholic Church?
28:44 And I said no. So then the priest said, you have to marry in the Catholic Church, and you have to do like that Bible study they do on Catholic Church. It has a different name, I don't know what it is, but most people know. But the course of catechism would start only in 2013. And we were there, more or less. In August of 2012. And I was avid for the truth. I downloaded catechism from the internet and started studying at home. But, for the grace of God, with the Bible by my side. It's called catechism, I think. How do you pronounce it? Catechism? Catechism? Catechism, okay. So he needed to do that, but the next one would only be next year. And then he downloaded the files and started studying. And then he started studying for himself in his house.
29:36 And in the meantime, we put a cable TV antenna at home, and passing through the channels, I fell into an evangelical channel, which was the New Time channel of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and I didn't even know that there was a church with that name. So then we installed an antenna so we can watch television. And I was surfing the internet. I was surfing through the channels, and I fell upon an evangelist's channel. It's called New Time here in Brazil, which is the only channel for the Adventist Church. It's called Hope Channel. There is a man with a Bible in his hand. There it's called Hope Channel. Hope Channel, okay, yeah. New Time. Yeah. There was a man with a Bible in his hand. You can say it. There was a man with a Bible in his hand on this channel. And different.
30:33 You can say it. I was looking at the people on the channel, and I saw some of the other evangelists that we clearly saw that were interested in taking money from people. I saw sincerity in that man. And I started watching. And then I called my wife to watch too. So something caught my attention. The guy on the television that had his Bible in his hand was actually speaking in a sincere form. pastors and adventure evangelist uh channels that the guy only wants people's money you know like universal church and stuff so i saw that he was sincere in what he was saying and then i liked it and then my wife said turn that off you know these people are trying to rip you off on money uh these evangelist channels so i said to her like give it five minutes because i think this guy's not like all the other rest so we kept watching the channel but we were still um studying about catholicism uh catechism but we kept watching the channels and then all the differences started popping up so we kept watching the channels and then all the differences started popping up uh and then we were like normally watching the channels and we ended up on a contra very uh and then we were like normally watching the channels and we ended up virtual topic about the ten commandments uh about sabbath and i asked the priest in the catholic church about it but him he didn't really give a good answer so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible so we actually ended up just wanting to stay with the bible And we ended up coming back home thinking that we didn't have any other church to go, because none of the churches we knew were correct with the Bible. Can I make him a question?
33:34 When you came back home without knowing that there was a church that really preached the Bible, and you were watching Novo Tempo TV, didn't you hear the Adventist Word of the Seventh Day? Until then, we didn't know that there was an Adventist church of the Seventh Day. Novo Tempo was a channel that we watched from time to time, we studied the Bible, but we were just starting to do these studies. And we really thought that there was no physical church that we could go to, and when we continued with the study... You can go, Jean, you can translate. I asked him, how did you not know if there was a church since you were watching the channel? Did the name Adventist never come up while you were watching? That was my question to him. And then he said it didn't have any time yet, so he didn't actually hear it, he didn't know there was a church about it. Okay, you can continue.
34:34 And as the studies continued through Novo Tempo TV, we found out that everything was biblical, and that there were truths there that we had never heard, and wonderful truths, until we decided to get to know an Adventist church. So we kept watching the channel, and everything that was said on that channel, we compared it to the Bible, and it had proof from the Bible, so it was Bible-based. And we ended up getting to know an Adventist church, Seventh-day Adventist. Okay, so we ended up going to the Adventist church, and we decided to go to the church on a Saturday. We went, I mainly, with both feet behind, with a lot of prejudice, a lot of distrust, but we were very well received, and we finished the biblical studies at the Adventist church. And on December 29, 2012, my wife and I, by the grace of God, we were baptized.
35:27 December 29, my birthday. December 29, 2012. 2012. Okay, so we ended up going to the Adventist church. But I was very mistrustful. I didn't, like, going through church after church, I was, like, not trusting what I was going to hear. But we frequented it so much that we actually got baptized September 29th in the year 2012. Wow. And since we did that, our lives changed 180 degrees. It's a saying here in Brazil, like, it changes. Yeah. It changes to the opposite way. We had the grace of being instructed by a very consecrated pastor and his family, Pastor Josemir. And we participated in a group of studies at his house, we accepted the health reform.
36:21 And in 2013, I had a very remarkable dream with a very beautiful place. So we ended up having a lot of Bible studies. We had the privilege to be a part of the church. We helped by a very graceful pastor in the church. And in 2013, I had a dream about this farm. And this dream really touched me. Until then, I had never imagined living in a rural area. I really liked the beach. We lived in a beach city. And my hobby, my leisure was on the beach, fishing, surfing. And I lived in Rio de Janeiro, so we had a lot of beaches. And I never dreamed of living in the country and owning a farm. For me to pass my time, I love to go to the beach.
37:11 And in 2014, we met some Adventist brothers who told us about the message of life on the field. And that this message was important for sanctification, for preparation for the return of Jesus. And they advised us to read some books, such as Escape to God, Final Events, Life on the Field. So, So, while I was studying and going deep in the Adventist belief, I got to know about the health message and about Ellen G. White's counsel. I don't know if it's counsel, but recommendation through God for us to go to the country, be with nature, and escape the cities, escape Babylon. And I started to read a lot of many other books that Ellen G. White wrote, like Final Events, and all of those. And from that reading, I remembered my dream. And I understood that it was God's plan. And I decided to start looking for a place.
38:12 But I didn't want to give up my wife's salary, the Navy, and I didn't want to give up the beach, my leisure time on the beach. So after I read the book, I remembered about my dream, that I dreamed of this farm in the country. But I didn't want to go, because I didn't want to give up on it. So after I read the book, I remembered about my dream, that I dreamed of this farm in the country. So after I read the book, I remembered about my dream, that I dreamed of this farm in the country. Because my wife was in the military, and it's very hard to transfer work. And I didn't want to give up my hobby, which is going to the beach. Until 2015, we found the place exactly as I had dreamed. With archipelago, eucalyptus, a house, a rural road, right at the top of the mountain, 1,100 meters from the studio. But it was very far from the beach and almost 600 kilometers away from where my wife is. And in 2015 I ended up finding this farm that was exactly like in my dream, it had specific trees just like in my dream on top of the mountain it was actually 3,600 feet high so that's a lot that's 1,100 meters but it was 600 kilometers which would be about 400 miles away from the beach.
39:44 So I bought this farm, my wife ended up not working anymore after 15 years so our money power went way down. But we were happy because we were doing God's will. So as soon as we moved in I was very afraid of the farm because it like had a lot of trees there were very like insects and creatures that could threaten my three-year-old son and then I added him to him that so your son was born after your birth? Yeah. He was born after the baptism and he said yeah I'm like you see how God delayed it and he he's like yeah if if if my son came earlier he would be taught the wrong way. And one day I was you were in the backyard and then my son went running in the back yard and then my son went running in the back yard.
41:22 And then my son went running in the back yard. and then my son went running in the back yard. And I got up to him and I saw him running in front of me I yelled him to come back and he didn't come. And I heard him scream, Daddy, a snake! When I reached him he was from the other side of the trail the snake in the middle and I was from the other side and I was very worried and I asked if he had been bitten. He said no. And as soon as I got to him, the snake was between me and him. And as soon as I got to him, the snake was between me and him. And I asked them if the snake had bitten him. And as soon as I went to see the snake, the snake was paralyzed. There were no marks on her for blood or anything. And the snake was simply dead. And after that day, I stopped fearing snakes. So the snake was alive before.
42:40 He was sure, absolutely sure. And he's also sure that God killed that snake for him. Because it was like something that was going to step on him. He's... So... I believe so, because the trail was narrow. And he was running, and the snake was crossing the middle of the trail. There was no way for him not to pass over her, either by jumping or by stepping. Yeah, so he went through the snake. So it was very certain that the snake could have bitten him. Yeah. And I'd also like to relate to some events that happened about UFOs and stuff like that, that happened during our lives.
43:33 Yeah. The story of the snake happened in the year 2017. And the question... The question about the snake happened in 2017. Okay. Well, the first event that marked me a lot was when I was approximately five or six years old. Okay. The snake thing happened in 2017. But the first event I saw, I was around five to six years old. Me and my twin brother took some birds that my mom had in the cage and dismantled them. We were very taken. But my mom... My mom had already said that those little animals were alive, that God wouldn't want us to do bad things to them. So me and my twin brother, we were quite... I don't know if it's the word, the correct, but we were naughty kids.
44:27 And she had a couple of birds in cages. And we tore them apart. And then my mom dismembered them. And my mom came and told me, those are living beings. You shouldn't do that. God doesn't like that. They should do that. And that was the first conscientious sin that I committed. And my brother, despite not being evangelical, he is a spirit to this day, and my whole family. He tells this story exactly as I'm telling it. And although my brother, he isn't in the Adventist church, he is in spiritism. And all my... All my other family members are also, too. He tells this story the same way I tell it. And after we dismembered the birds, I had a vision.
45:31 And it was the only vision we ever had. We saw a man in the sky, dressed in white, in a very shiny outfit, and with a book in his hand. And this man didn't say anything to us. He just wrote down what happened. And in this vision, we saw a man in the sky, a very bright, shining man, with white clothes, and a book. And he just simply... He didn't say anything. He just wrote down what happened. And I spent my whole life, until I converted, until I knew the prophecies of the book of Daniel, mainly, without knowing the meaning of that. And I went through my whole life, not knowing what had happened, until I converted, and read Daniel 7, chapter 7 in Daniel, that we have the books.
46:38 And then I came to know what was happening. What was actually happening in that vision. That everything we do here is being recorded. And that the judgment of God is going to happen. And we can't hide anything from His eyes. And that God's judgment will happen. And we can't hide anything from Him. And when I was a teenager, me and my brother, especially my brother-in-law, we were very afraid of the extraterrestrial question, because of the movies. And we also had two sightings. And we also had two sightings. When we were children and when we were teenagers in the region where we lived. And there were strange phenomena in the sky. And when we were teenagers, me and my brother, we were very afraid of UFOs, because of movies and tales and stuff.
47:26 And we had two appearances. One when I was a kid and one when I was a teenager. And when I was approximately 15, 16 years old, we asked the spiritual guide of our house, the Indian, the Caboclo that my mother received, if extraterrestrials existed and if we needed to be afraid of them. And when I was 15, I asked my mom to ask her spirit if we should fear these aliens. And the answer we got was a very shocking, very sinister answer that I never forgot in my life. And the answer marked me a lot. And the answer marked me a lot. And the answer marked me a lot. It was a very sinister answer. And that being that I know today, that is a fallen angel, he said the following. They, referring to extraterrestrial beings, they exist and they will come.
48:24 And there are men who received them badly. The answer was, these extraterrestrials, they exist, they will come. And any man that doesn't receive them, they will come. Any man that doesn't receive them, should fear them. Wow. And we know from today's study that there are only two forces in the universe. The angels of God and the fallen angels. And that these extraterrestrials, in fact, are fallen angels who will come to deceive humanity. As Roger Mordeaux reports in his book. And we know that there are only two forces in the world. The good and the evil. Fallen angels and good angels. And these aliens that will come down are actually fallen angels to deceive mankind.
49:14 What were the two events like? There were lights in the sky. Lights that moved at a very fast speed. Making maneuvers that no human aircraft could do with straight angles. And several people also saw these objects in the neighborhood where we lived. So the lights that he... I asked him, how were the events that you saw when you were a kid and teenager? And he said that exactly what you said on your documentary. There were lights in heaven that did not behave like aircrafts. Their speed was phenomenal. And it wasn't only me and my brother that saw it. Like, many people saw it also. Oh. Wow. Okay. There is one more question that I would like to mention. Our site is the last of the road.
50:07 And we live in a mountain called Serra da Mantiqueira. And one day, on a Sunday, a car stopped at the gate of our site. And there is no way to maneuver because the road is narrow. Okay, so I would like to tell another story that happened. Our farm, it's in the end of the road. So you can't actually maneuver your car back. Because it's very narrow. And one day, we live in a mountain. One day, some car came up and stopped in front of our farm's gate. This happened in 2018. If I'm not mistaken. Then I went down, opened the door so the car could maneuver. And then, this happened in 2018. So I went down and I opened the door, the gate, so the car could turn around and go back.
51:01 And when the car entered, I recognized it. A person, a woman, who has a site close to us here. It's about four kilometers down. And as soon as I opened, I recognized the woman in the car that was another... It was actually a neighbor that lived down about four kilometers down the road. And I invited her to get out of the car and meet my wife, meet my son personally. We only knew her by passing. We knew she was a neighbor. But I wanted to get to know her better. I wanted her to get to know my wife as well. So we knew she was our neighbor. But we actually didn't know her as a person. So I invited her in so we could get to know her.
51:48 And she could get to know my wife also. And she accepted the invitation. We started talking. She is very intelligent. She has three children here in the Serrano region. She is an alpinist. And we talked about a lot of things. Until I don't know how she started talking about ufology. She started what? She started talking about UFOs. About UFOs, about ships. So we had a very intelligent talk. She had three kids. She was very intelligent. She liked to hike and do stuff. And as we went on talking, she bumped on the subject of UFOs. And she told me that this mountain was a base for extraterrestrials.
52:51 And even though where you live, which is the last farm on the place, you would most certainly see some events. And I was admired. And I asked her if she had ever seen anything. And I was admired. And I asked her if she ever saw something. And she said yes, many times. And that the first time, she was arriving with her three children at the gate of her place. And the oldest daughter at the time was about 12, 13 years old. And they saw a ball of light. And their car stopped working as it happens in the movies. And they were very scared. Until that phenomenon went away. And they entered the house. And she answered that she saw a lot of times.
53:38 But there was one specific that she was with her three kids, 12-year-old daughter. And it happened that she saw a big bright light. And her car turned off. Just like it happens in the movies. And then it went away. And then it went away. And then she said that she saw it several times. And the most striking time was when her daughter was about 18 years old. And on a rainy night, a cold night, this girl entered her room crying a lot, all wet, telling her mother that they had returned. And there was another event that was very impactful. When her daughter was 18, 18 years old, it was a rainy day. And the daughter stormed in her room, all wet from the rain, and telling her mom that they came back.
54:34 And after she managed to calm her daughter, and warm her daughter, she asked them, who are you talking about? And the girl said that the ship had returned. And she was like, what's going on? Who came back? And her daughter replied, the spaceship. Because they thought it was a spaceship, the way, right? Uh-huh. And the mother asked, but what ship? What happened? And she said, look, my teacher, she said the name of the teacher, this teacher had passed away about 15 days after this date. My teacher came into my room, appeared here in my room, and invited me to go outside. She said she had something very beautiful to show me. Oh. And then what happened was that I had a teacher that, the daughter had a teacher that died about 15 days ago.
55:34 And it appeared 15 days later in her room and invited her out so he could show her something very pretty. Wait, wait, wait. Let me get that right. Yeah, that was before she saw the light. So who died? Her teacher. Okay. The teacher she had. And the thing that appeared to her appeared to her teacher before she died or appeared to the little girl? To her. To the girl. Okay. The daughter. And it was the teacher? The teacher, the dead teacher, appeared to the daughter. Oh. Yeah. And called her outside to see something very beautiful. Yeah. She accepted the invitation. And she, to meet the professor, a very dear professor of hers, who had died a short time ago, she accepted the invitation and went with him to the garden, to the house's backyard.
56:30 So it was a very darling teacher for her. She liked a lot the teacher. So she accepted the invitation and she went to the yard to see what he was going to show her. And arriving at the backyard, the alien ship was landing and she saw immediately, beings inside the spaceship with a humanoid appearance. The professor told her not to be afraid, that she could go, that they wouldn't do anything. And she said that it was an actual spaceship and she could see the living things inside of it. And the, her, that teacher told her that she could go closer so she can see and she, she shouldn't fear it. How was the spaceship? And she, she, she didn't narrate the whole aspect. She only said that it was a spaceship, that it was landing and that she saw the beings inside the spaceship. And the professor said that she could go, that she shouldn't be afraid, that it would be a wonderful experience, that she would like it.
57:35 And she narrated what the beings were like? She said that when she entered, she felt a being touch her hand and after that, she could only feel it. She woke up in the backyard, all wet, and entered the house running to tell her mother what had happened. So she entered the spaceship? She entered the spaceship. And after that, her mind doesn't remember what happened during her stay in the spaceship. She was, in fact, abducted, right? Uh-huh. So get this. Uh, I asked him a lot of questions so I can narrate it good to you, okay? So, uh, as soon as she went out, I asked him, uh, if she talked about the spaceship, how did it look like and how did the beings inside the spaceship look like? Uh, but what did he tell me?
58:29 No, Orlando told me that she actually, the spaceship was landed and as soon as she went to go in the spaceship, she forgot everything that happened from there to when she woke up in the middle of the grass, all wet from the rain. So it was like she was abducted. Yeah, this is typical because then they, they, they have you go back to, um, be regressed as a hypnotist and then they can implant all kinds of stuff into your memories. That's very typical. Anyway, go on. That's, that's interesting. Yeah. He said that this is very typical of what happens in events like this. It's very common this kind of hypnosis. It's very common. It's very common this kind of report. Right.
59:16 I understand. And we, through this report, we see the connection, right, between immortality of the soul, right, between spiritism, between people who have already died and come back, who are actually fallen angels, with the ufological question. And with that type of typical behavior and, uh, story, we see the association of, uh, fallen angels, spiritism, and ufology. Right. And this family, after the, the, the mother, who was talking to us, told us this, she said a phrase that I was very surprised. She said the following. We are in a great conflict. And this great conflict is coming to an end. And the angels of light, the beings of light, will come back to save us. Right. So, I think that, I think that, I think that, I think that, I think that, I think that, I think that, I think that, I think that, have taken care of us in the following ways.
1:00:15 But, um, then we finally they took care of us and said, and, and, and, and how to start with us. To naturalization. And so, we're now doing this electromagnetic receiving of the regions. of the regions. So, that's the world that we are in. Now we have to respect the models because, as we areonly all we feel about and, Where did she get this from? Did they tell her that? Where did she get this information from? Why does she think that? She believes in it. She is an adept of the new era. She even does a faculty of shamanism. And her belief is that we are at the end of time. She reported it to us here. And that these beings of light, the aliens, they will return to Earth to rescue humanity.
1:01:08 So she actually believes in this because she is adept to the idea of new age. She is in a course for shamanism. And she had learned that these beings were going to come back to save humankind. And after that, we spoke a little about the biblical truth to her. We gave her a book from Brother White, from the publishing house. It was a great conflict. We exhorted them to read the book. And we kept the friendship. We prayed for them. To try to make them understand the truth. So after that, we presented her with the book, The Great Controversy.
1:01:53 And expected her to read it. Asked her to read the book. We kept praying for her. We still had contact with her. So she can see the truth. And this belief is a very widespread belief. By Hollywood, by cartoons. So humanity is really being prepared for the moment when these beings will present themselves as our saviors. And unfortunately, just like her, many people believe that they will be the saviors, not Jesus. So this is a topic that actually globally people are being hijacked in their brain through Hollywood, through animation pictures and stuff. To believe that these creatures are actually going to come back to save humankind. Probably from a global destruction scenario. Or apocalyptic scenario. And that's what the Bible actually teaches us. Wow. Shows us, right?
1:02:51 In summary, it was a little big. I believe that was what I had to say. And I hope it helps someone to be interested in the biblical truth. And get attached to God. So, I think this was everything I had to say on this subject. I hope this message helps everyone that's watching to come closer to God. To come closer to the Bible. And not just to know, but to live the truth. Praise God. Shian, just an observation. Orlando, you're giving biblical study to her son, right? No, I'm giving biblical study to the son of the person who put the Bible in her heart. The person who put the Bible. There's still hope in our mailbox.
1:03:39 We discovered that they were Adventists, our neighbors. And that they prayed for us for some time. So, what did they ask him? They asked him if he was giving Bible studies to that neighbor. But no, he's actually giving Bible studies to the son of the parent that put the book in his mailbox. Oh, wow. They put the book, and now he's giving Bible studies to their son. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's cool. Do you have any questions for him? And we see the importance of a book, right, Shian? That's right, man. Sometimes you think you're going to put a little book in there. Man, look at the transformation he's making. He said, we sometimes underestimate the power of a simple book. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because it comes with the power of the Holy Spirit.
1:04:32 Exactly. I have a few questions for him. Amen. If I might. I didn't want to interrupt. But I was curious, when he had that experience with the asking, I guess his mother, I forget who it was, about the UFO. Who relayed that information? And I'm talking directly to you as the translator, just so you understand my question. Who relayed that information? Was it him speaking to someone possessed? Or was, how did that, how did that happen? How did the interaction happen? He just wants to confirm. When you approached your mother to talk about aliens, was it she who said it, or was it the spirit, the cacique, I don't know, who was incorporated into it?
1:05:25 It was me. It was the spirit. It was the cacique who was incorporated into it. I was there. It was the spirit that was possessing her that told him. Okay. So while she was possessed, that happened. Wow. Yeah, exactly. And so he told actually the truth. Yeah. Except for the saving humanity part. And it was actually the most powerful entity, spirit that my mom possessed. How? There are a lot of spirits. That was the most powerful one. How do you know it's power and strength? How do you know it's power and strength? Because he was the leader, he was in charge.
1:06:17 And when there was a very serious problem to be solved, he was the one who incorporated into my mother. Because we knew it, because we saw he was the leader. When something very important was about to happen, it was him that took over, not the rest. He was the leader for all the other ones. So he was the highest ranking. Yeah. Very interesting. Very good. Yeah, because we have divisions in angels, right? Yeah. I mean, you hear that in the Bible where it says the I am legion. You know, many. Commander of many. Exactly. Very good. I never thought about it that way. Yeah.
1:07:08 Like legion. I always thought it was like 5,000 angels. But not that it could be one. Because I'm like, how do 5,000 angels possess one same body? I don't know. But it makes more sense that there is one that represents a legion. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very well could be. Just to contextualize you. He said here. The Bible says, right? That I am legion. I never understood the concept of 5,000 demons possessing one body. Now, it could be an angel that commands 5,000 angels. So he has. There are 5,000 because he commands. But it's one that he possessed. Got it? I don't know. I don't know if it's the Bible. Exactly. But it's interesting to think. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
1:07:56 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He actually said that's true. He actually said that it's one angel that possesses, but he can be more because he governs a lot of others. So that's a fact. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. That's fascinating. Wow. That's the only question I had for the whole testimony. I think that's. That validates the Bible. That validates everything that that we have been. studying here on this channel and i really really appreciate uh all of you especially orlando for being here and and helping us understand what's going on in the spiritual world a little bit better we are god's church so let's work a lot so we can end all this confusion amen amen amen thank you guys saw how why we were having internet issues yeah yeah yeah satan doesn't want this the truth getting out and that's that's why we were having so many so much trouble fortunately we prayed i prayed and uh we figured out a solution so i believe that was divine good well i won't keep you guys any longer i know it's late later for you than it is here so i i i don't want to keep you you all up but i really do appreciate you doing this for me and this is going to be a amazing testimony from for everyone else that hears this too