🚨Shocking Truth Tom Delonge's MONSTERS OF CALIFORNIA Movie👽🛸

0:00 exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you, it's real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official saying, stop looking at UFOs. Because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic, and we should not be pursuing them.

2:03 The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky and like sparks were going. Well, like, spreading everywhere. And then they, on the morning, they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension, ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects, from medical files and over 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Lou Elizondo. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the US Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively. I, I started to have these follow on experiences with the phenomenon.

3:48 That was like the beginning of seeing nonhuman entities in my room at night, Because my job was classified and I had access to classified. I was kind of aware. This was not a one-off event for the Navy. This, these things happen frequently. All the time. They happen all the time. Barbara Bethel, Whitley Striever. Both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative. In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade, and after my conversion, if you will, I was in the kitchen by myself, and I felt it come up next to me, and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as Grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus's name, get it away from me, and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was?

5:17 Just a hallucination. Just a hallucination. Just a hallucination. To be perfectly honest, a demon. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders, and Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens, and a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies and the waters that are going to be seen in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy, so we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us, with that. Separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that.

6:39 It's very eye-opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system. It's different than a religion, but it's religious-like. What they're seeing in the sky today is what they believe to be advanced technology. Whereas 1,000 years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel or maybe that's a demon. Today, they look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people. Almost like a religious conversion experience. It changes their worldview. It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally, completely changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe.

7:41 My name is Tom DeLonge. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today. We are the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today. We are the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today. We are the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. There is a very, very strong link. There is a very, very strong link. between what people think demons are from the bible and other religions and the ufo phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man period and something that feels um either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man uh is to be we passed the 11 minute mark now t minus 10 minutes 54 seconds on our countdown but what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect christian belief there is a professor for the pope's uh university in rome and he is a very highly respected intellectual uh his last name is tanzaniti and he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon not not right in the beginning we won't have to deny our christian faith in the beginning but there is information coming from another world and once it is confirmed it is going to require a re-reading of the gospel as we know it and that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of vatican intelligentsia if you're an alien and you want to get baptized the pope is in favor of it pope francis reiterated his view monday that everyone has the right to be baptized and apparently that invite extends even to martians over the next 10 years i have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of jesus christ this is documented evidence the strategy that bernard von brown taught me was that first the russians are going to be considered to be the enemy then terrorists would be identified then we were going to identify third party crazies and the next enemy was asteroids and the funniest one of all was against what he called alien and over and over and over during the four years that i knew him and was giving his speeches for him he would bring up that last card and remember carol the last card is the alien card we're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it he said is a lie cool uh

11:32 um uh do you mean it's over there uh according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, too, is that UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years. Mormons, as well, believe in extraterrestrial life. And, I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern-day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets. You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. You are saying to the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S. government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone.

12:26 Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone, yeah. The inspector general made a determination about the fact that we're not alone. about the fact that we're not alone. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found, after interviewing myself in the subjects, and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant on who they were, they found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in a public setting. Have human beings been, hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence? While I can't get into the specifics, because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations, I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this.

13:23 You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we like to say in our language. Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, etc. do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.

14:20 And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, I think they are very real, but I think what is your idea of reality? That's the question. You see that the DOD and NASA, even, they're all hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue. And that's not where the truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, philosophy, religious studies. That's where you're going to find the truth of this. But I don't think that's true. I think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people called angels. I think they're messengers. I'm dying to know what they've got to say.

15:18 We're now passing the four minute, 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And the priest told us, could I have a little bit more of your time? I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says the grand plan for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause, just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grand plan, he says, is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff because he says spirits, demon spirits, will declare it. They declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it.

16:20 It was a big thing that was coming up. One of the major deceptions of the last days. Welcome, welcome, everybody. This is going to be a fantastic episode. We're really excited about bringing this one to you because it's new, like everything we do on this channel. But especially. Since this one, this one, man, this one packs a punch. So hit that like button, hit that subscribe button and join us for the ride for this amazing hour that you're never going to forget. See you soon. T minus three minutes and counting. T minus three. We are go with all elements of the mission at this time. We're just past the two minute mark in the countdown. T minus one minute, 54 seconds and counting. All indications of the mission. We are ready to go. We're ready to go.

17:56 We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. All indications coming in to the control center at this time indicate we are go. Guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds, leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds. T minus 60 seconds and counting. We've passed T minus 60. Trees to the universe we were never meant to solve, but who we are and why we are here are not among them. Ignition sequence five, six, five, four, three, two, one.

19:50 Go. Welcome to Strange Normal. My name is Brad. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And there is a lot going on tonight, so let me fill you in. This episode is so packed with stuff that I might have to conclude it some other time, to be honest with you. Do you guys want to go and explore the amazing, weird stuff that's going on with this government and stuff? But not only that, but the real stuff that's happening. I mean, I'm not taking from ulterior sources here. This is going to be from WikiLeaks. This is going to be from mainstream media news. This is going to be what your government is actually saying about this stuff in mainstream right now and what they want someone named Tom DeLonge to talk about to you.

20:49 He's freely admitting that he's producing multi-level propaganda in books and movies and all over the place to tell you more about what's going on. And what the government's doing with a strange problem called UAPs. And this episode is going to be the one you want to give to your family during Thanksgiving. We're doing this a week before Thanksgiving. I think it's a week before Thanksgiving. Anyway, before I get too far into just jabbering here, let me bring in all of our guests tonight. We got a few scenes here. I finally found the one I wanted. Guys, welcome! Let me start with you, Matthew, real quick. Matthew, how are you doing? I'm hanging in there. Bradley, just waiting for the allergy season to conclude. So it's nothing new. But otherwise, I'm having a great time. And I'm very excited about what you've got for us because you've been hyping this up a little bit, a little more than usual.

21:45 So you must have stumbled upon some pretty eye-opening things. Well, I think, and I want to get on to talk to you two, the other two guests tonight as well. But, you know, you're absolutely right because I think this is, this is a fascinating topic. We're going to get into the movie, not, I mean, at the very end. But what we're going to cover is a lot of stuff that, number one, we've seen a little bit, but we haven't really expounded upon ever on this channel. And we've even touched on a little bit of the sound bites in Starfall, the original documentary, at the beginning of this channel, one of the first videos on this channel. But I'm excited because I think a lot of people are going to be pretty surprised at what's being said here. And especially if you have family, family members, Thanksgiving, that haven't seen this before, they're going to want to be, they're going to go, aha, really? I mean, I went to church this weekend and I talked to people that hadn't heard about it.

22:37 And I said, what do you do? And I said, well, I run a podcast right now talking about the spiritualism in the last days. And let me tell you, do you know your government's on the news, on the horn right now? They're saying that they're seeing giant glowing lights above their most expensive and secretive military things. Ships, Navy, and all this other stuff, planes in the sky. And they said, no, I didn't know. Tell me more. So we went on and on and on. And I explained and I gave them one of the Starfall cards I have. They are just amazed by this stuff. And I think everyone should be, especially if you are, I mean, us Christians are like, I don't want you to need to know about that. You do. There's a deception coming and you need to know what's going on here. Because I think it's going to just hit everyone like a ton of bricks. Anyway. I, I digress. Wendy, how are you? I'm doing good. Thanks, Brad. Just got over a cold too, but looking forward to having something good to share at Thanksgiving.

23:39 It's always helpful when I get to jump on because some of my family members are a little more apt to watch. And I'm like, hey, check out what I've been doing. They're like, oh, okay. So this will be great. Very good. Very, very good. And Travis, where are you? I can't see you. Why can't I see you? I hope I see you. I said your name, right? Travis, how are you? Yeah, I'm doing great. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Oh, okay. Can you see me? I think so. For some reason, I have a teleprompter here. I'll show you just a little bit. And it's, I can barely see you down here. And that's my trouble right here because you're in the corner. But so anyway, if I can't see you or if you're waving at me, I'm sorry. No, that's all right. But. Yeah.

24:26 Other than not being seen by you, I'm doing great, man. I'm excited about the topic. I'm excited to join these three other prestigious individuals as we dig into these topics. I'm excited to see what we're going to dig into. Okay. Very good. Well, let's dig right into it. I want to, I've been kind of struggling to go through this because I don't know if you've, I grew up with this genre of music and this was before my time where I really started digging into what exactly it is that I need to not listen to. I mean, I just listened to everything because I thought it was cool. And Blink-182, Sum 41, you know, all these little bands of that era were interesting to me. And so to see Tom DeLonge doing this stuff in here is just fascinating because he's on a roll and he's on a roll in the wrong direction.

25:15 And trying to take out some of the expletives from his documentaries, from his music, from everything was quite a challenge in putting this together. But I want to make it a clean episode for you. But with that said, I want to preface it. If I missed one, I'm sorry. There's just so many. In fact, the movie we're going to go over, I counted in the first seven and a half minutes, I think there were 32 swear words that I had to cut out. And so we didn't use that scene because that's one every 14, 12 or 14 seconds. Anyway, we try to keep this clean as possible. Sorry, Wendy. Go ahead. I just said yikes. That's a lot of work to cut it all out. So we're going to go through this with a fine-tooth comb. But the interesting part is not the movie because the movie is the part we're going to cover at the very last part.

26:11 The interesting part to me is what he said in 2019. This is kind of a synopsis, if you will, of what he thinks is going on here and how this thing all started. I'm going to show you. A concert, because Blink-182 apparently got back together and they're doing a tour or some kind that goes through 2024 and it started in 2019. Someone recorded from the audience what he says about this stuff. I kind of want to give you an idea of what he thinks he's doing with this new system he's created. Now watch this. When we started Angels and Airwaves, the idea was how do we take, you know, I was like thinking like if Blink was about, like, growing up, maybe Angels is about being an adult, you know, taking all these things that you feel. Because every single person feels so f***ing alone. It doesn't matter how in love you are, how great your family is. It doesn't matter. You still kind of walk around going, God, this is a weird place and how do I get by? Well, I was like, maybe we can take some of those feelings and put them into songs.

27:24 And I remember, if I come out with this big word, love, the punkers are going to be pissed. But I didn't give a f***, because I'm punk, that's what I'm going to do. Well, I was then thinking, well, maybe if we make films, people would understand the message a little bit more. So I created this little company called To The Stars. And the hope was to communicate these themes in a louder way, you know? Well, one of the stories, I wanted to make movies about and sing about was a very controversial story. You see, one year ago, I was pretty sure I would never play music again on the stage. I was really sure of that because I went around into I made my way into the U.S. government. I know that sounds wild.

28:26 There's probably a few people here like, what did you just say? Well, I walked around, knocked on a few doors and I said, Hey, I have this. I have this idea. I think young people are ready for the conversation of a lifetime. I think they can take it because we have this idea that we're also separate from each other. But we're not all the people your age in different countries across the world. I felt that if the government would have this one conversation and might pull us all together. So I begged and I begged and I talked about all my ideas and all these guys. guys with all these stars on their shoulders would look at me and say, we don't believe anything you're saying, but we want to hear more. Well, guess what? It worked. And a couple of weeks ago, you might've seen a few articles with my name in it. And you thought that was a big deal. It's not.

29:27 There's some big coming. I took a bunch of these people that I met from the CIA to the DOD to the OSD to some other places, I can't say. And they've all come together and to the stars became to the stars Academy of arts and science. And some shit's about to drop. It's going to change your life. You pull all of us together to celebrate all these things that I set myself out to do for all of us. It worked. I'm going to ask you to sing this song for me. It was like this. All right. I'm going to pause it right here just for a second, because I'm not going to sing the song on the show because I'm trying not to get demonetized, trying not to get banned from YouTube. But I do want to show you exactly what is being said in this song, because this kind of reveals what this channel is about and talking about this strange phenomenon. Now this is called Aliens Exist. This is something he made a long time ago. And so he's been in this idea for quite some time. I'm going to read some of this lyrics to you. You decide what you're going to sing. I'm going to read some of this lyrics to you. You decide yourself what he's trying to say here. He says, Hey, Mom, there's something in the back room. Hope it's not those creatures from above. Those creatures from above. I hope you used to read me stories as if my dreams were boring. We all know conspiracies are dumb. And he says, what if people knew that these are real? I'd leave my closet door open all night. I know the CIA would say what you hear is all hearsay. Wish someone would tell me what was right. Well, we do have someone that tells me what was right. Wait a second. So is he asking us to tell what the aliens are going to tell us what was right? Then the chorus comes in. Up all night long, and there's something very wrong. And I know it must be late, since I've been gone since yesterday.

31:22 I'm not like you guys. I'm not like you. And he goes into the last verse. I am still a skeptic. Yes, you know me. Been this way, or been best friends, and will be till we die. I got, an injection of fear from the abduction. My best friend thinks I'm just telling lies. All right. Up all night long, and there's something very wrong. And I know it must be late. Been gone since yesterday. I'm not like you guys. I'm not like you. One more. Dark and scary. This is the bridge. Explanation, information. Nice to know you. Paranoia. Where's my mother? Bio father. Up all night long, and there's something very wrong. And I know it must be late. I've been gone since yesterday. I'm not like you. Swim-up while I still may during sleep in life. Wow. We kind of know where that last line came from. And I kind of want to bring you guys in here, uh, to, to talk about this a little bit, because I, I, uh, I'm going to go into this a little bit further. We're going to look at an about section about this song on another website to try to figure out what's happening here. But so, so he, a lot's happening here. I hear Inklings of, um, religion. I hear inklings of, we have to listen to those things from above. Wow, you just went into warp, Travis. That was super cool. I'm not sure what just happened there.

32:48 We're just, we're just, yeah, here we go. But I, I, um, this is kind of set in the bound of what he wants to talk about. Let me, let me, let me just iterate from the very beginning. He thinks, and this is what he wants to do. He wants to talk about love. And he says, if I bring out this love, the punkers are going to be very mad. That's what he said just a minute ago. And so he said, he created this, uh, this group called To The Stars to talk about how we are all one and that we all need to talk about how there is a bigger picture happening here that the government wants to reveal and they've been unsuccessful at it. And we're going to dig further into what happened in the government. And he's going to tell a 15 minute story. It's going to be a little bit long. I'm going to chop it up into about five minute sections, but it's, you're going to be on the edge of your seat listening to this because it's, it's really, really fascinating. I don't care if he's, um, telling, I mean, I do care if he's telling lies, but if he is, when he's telling these lies, um, about what is being portrayed, I guess I could say whatever happened to him, I believe him a hundred percent because of what is revealed in WikiLeaks emails and all this other stuff that's coming out, but I'll show you in a second. But, uh, what do you guys think about, uh, what do you guys think about, uh, what do you guys think about, uh, what do you guys think about, what has happened so far? Do you have any comments on, on what was, uh, what was kind of said here before I move on into exactly what's going on? I'm going to start with, uh, if Matt, if you, any of you don't have a comment, that's totally fine. Don't, don't, don't think you have to come up with something. Cause we got such a long show. I don't want to, I want to squeeze it as fast as possible. But, uh, Matthew, I'm gonna start with you. It was really funny when I first started looking into this whole phenomenon and saw that Tom DeLonge was a player in this game because beforehand, I had listened to blink one 82. Uh, I wouldn't call myself like a blink one 82 fan, but I certainly, uh, you know, went through some of their catalog and their songs and they always did have that punk kind of edge to them. I mean, the, the, the cursing just spilling out of his mouth very casually. That's just, uh, that, that carries over into the music as well.

34:55 And some of the themes, but now he's saying that was kind of growing up. That was an adolescent phase. And here I am, I want to present a more mature face. And I want to be a little more grown up. And I think the name of that band, cause he's not performing with blink one 82 there he's performing with angels and airwaves. And that name alone says a lot. Uh, and, and just the band logo as well. It kind of has the A's and then like the A is inverted. I think, you know, if anyone looked at it, you could probably shuffle those things around and get some interesting shapes out of them. But overall, just seeing that Tom, Tom DeLonge being such a, a player in this game, it's weird, but it makes me think about Daniel three when, uh, Nebuchadnezzar using musicians to sound the cue for worship. I imagine back in ancient Babylon, there were some well-known names and well-known musical groups that were coming out and they were all in unison coming together and saying, yeah, here we are. This is about love. This is about worshiping. And I think it was Nebuchadnezzar who was doing it. And he would say, Hey, Nebuchadnezzar, may he reign forever. We've got a big gold statue. We love the guy so much. You ready? We're about to rock out. And then they hit their chords and everyone's supposed to drop down and just him giving that big monologue and casually strumming away. You know, there's something to that. He didn't have to sit there and just do a couple of chords as if we're sitting around a campfire with them. And, uh, he's just gonna go, go on and on, but that, that music it is. It's, it's moving and motivating.

36:33 So I think, uh, in addition to the hollywood celebrities who will move you with their acting uh the musicians i i think they're even more powerful uh at invoking emotion with with the music 100 wendy yeah absolutely i was going to say something along the same lines with that monologuing it's like you know he's taking every opportunity he can to just you know witness whatever he he believes needs to get out there because it's a concert like what does it have to do with all the rest of his projects if anything i feel like he's going on this this tour just to further his agenda here because i mean how long has he been out of the music arena it's been a while but yeah yeah music strikes it like strokes the chords in your in your heart and your emotions that otherwise you know you can't really reach there's literally certain you know frequencies that music um uses and opens up like your cellular level it's kind of crazy when you look at the the scientific research behind frequencies and what it can do to you but that's fascinating i didn't know that wow yeah i'd like to see those studies if you can post those in the discord where we we all talk and that would be fantastic because i think we could do a amazing study on that and i want to take an opportunity by the way what was the discord if if you want to join the discord as a private community of about 70 of us we all talk about this stuff every day we try to figure out exactly what's going on join us through patreon.com strange normal and uh join us i mean we're all patreon members and that's what we do and if you're in there you can join us on the program like we're doing right now with the discussion so um travis what do you think about this well for one i think consensus wise that is probably the worst tom delong song of all time lyrically i think it was pretty unpleasing uh but but of everything he said what stood out the most uh was definitely when he said it's gonna bring us all together and and and jesus is what brings us all together jesus is the actual unifying force of truth and whatever he is pointing to ain't jesus um so uh i i'm curious as to how many people who are in love with jesus are going to see this thing that is supposed to bring everybody together and hopefully they'll run the show together with us for sure yeah um we've been talking about the uh the other way but i imagine it's going to be fantastical 100 100 yeah this this is and what he said was uh also uh wish someone would tell me what was right there has been someone telling you what was right and they did come from essentially outer space so i think that's that's that's interesting that you totally missed it tom but i i want to get further into what in the world is going on here by looking at this about section of this song just so you get the idea of what's going on here i'm going to read this as i put it on the screen aliens exist is a song about leader tom delong's belief in aliens tom who has a strong fascination and belief in extraterrestrial life and even claims to have made contact wrote the song following his departure from the band in 2015 tom delong decided to devote time to the exploration of unidentified aerial phenomena this is called uip is what we discuss on this channel in 2016 interview with mike.com tom delong dismissively commented on the song mike um how many people have made the joke about your aliens exist song in relation to this project secret machines now we're going to get into secret machines in just a second but um tom says he laughs and says yeah isn't it the weirdest thing it's weird that people remember that song it's like yeah and an eighth album track from like 20 years ago so he's like yeah this is this is not a big deal compared to what i'm actually doing here um and it's what i'm doing is is actually a big deal and so let's get into what in the world tom is doing with this because um i'd like to dig further into that scenario but before we do let's hear from tom himself about what he thinks about some different things watch this you know i don't know if it you know it added to my uh... might take it out i've never believed that u of those were as simple as just you know a life you know some kind of life form from another planet i always thought it was much more complex than that uh... you know this to me i thought that jock valet what what and john keel they were both offering explanations that were

41:20 that were really making somebody think about the absurdity of what u of those do when people have some type of contact or the abduction experiences are all cattle mutilations crops our calls into weird stuff that it that it's been that it doing and he did and getting back to you will be okay 다면 in the messages of telling people so what i'm i have a company called to the stars and and what we're doing is do it kind of communicating large teams and ideas and in what's called the transmedia where you do multi-platform releases on the subject so it that's no different than what you say about tuesday morning there's a video on tuesday see on your big Marvel or DC Comics movies or stuff that Disney does, even Star Wars where it's a franchise. It's an idea that lasts for many years and they do a lot of movies. They'll do animations, they'll do books or whatever. Secret Machines is like that. Okay, wow, wow, there's a lot packed in there. Let me just highlight a couple things and I'll let you guys comment on it and then we'll go right into Tom DeLonge's, his behind the scenes and how he got involved in the government and how we know this is legit and not just some story Tom's making up. What he said there was kind of key and so let me bring that up. He said, number one, that UFOs, UAPs, all this stuff, it's a very religious thing because they're bringing out more. Every time something like this happens, we hear more about religion. Why are they coming all the way down here to talk about religion? Maybe someone can comment on that, but before that, he also said that they're that what he's trying to do is communicate large themes, large themes that last for a long time and then he compared his system, his business of, what was it called? His business was called To The Stars. He compared it to Disney. Now, Disney has had a long, long, long and he admitted to this. He says, look, Disney's trying to communicate large themes in their productions.

43:23 Many forms of multimedia. He knows what's going on. If he knows what's going on, how does not everyone else know what's going on here? Disney is trying to communicate large themes and so is he. What is he essentially saying here? He says, I'm creating propaganda. I'm creating propaganda so that I can change the world's idea of what's going on here, right? I'm gonna let each one of you talk about this and then we're gonna get into some of the longer videos about what Tom is actually saying in his, his, a long time ago podcast about this. Matthew, let's start with you. Tom, again, is on point with his branding. He calls his band Angels and Airwaves. He labels his book Secret Machines and he uses a K instead of a C to do Secret Machines and the company is called To The Stars, which says it all. He's bringing you to the stars. In Revelation 12.4, we see, speaking about how Jesus introduced Satan when he was cast out of heaven and his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven and did cast them to the earth. That's what's going on here. I can't help, but, thank Tom DeLonge more than other people. I know that we go over a bunch of different personalities on this show and some of them seem to be more aware than others.

44:47 Just the things that he's said. Talking about how the alien phenomenon is closer to angels and in the bible he has all this really pointed language about the topic on some level you just gotta say has this guy really been initiated and does he know whose side he's really fighting on i think he has been i mean he saw i mean we've seen that he oh man do i even want to go down this rabbit hole oh this is gonna yeah sure let's do it um you have i i hadn't i didn't put this in this episode but we have pictures of him being uh uh what do you call it indoctrinated inundated put put into the uh the masonic lodge and is it like a 33 degree mason or whatnot is that is that true i don't know i just know i've seen pictures of him with the bib and everything on right i don't know the bib it's an apron funny i kind of like the bib uh i don't think he's ever divulged what degree he is he's attained to i imagine that 33 wouldn't be out of his reach especially given how often he can just sit down with high-ranking military individuals and people from all these different organizations he just gets a pass he walks in and has lunch with them like it's no big deal but uh yes there are videos of him and his mason's regalia uh or not not videos sorry pictures of him in that but i don't know as far as the degree i couldn't speak to but definitely as uh as a freemason for sure wendy do you have anything to comment on yeah i mean he's definitely using his fame his nirani as a his golden ticket right so i feel like he he explains i don't know if it's just in his book or elsewhere my um knowledge of him is basically in the books i i don't know a lot about tom de long outside of what i've read from secret machines and um the non-fiction that follows but um it's clear he's been the one tasked to disclose what the government wants to disclose and the fact like matthew said in the bumper he says um what we know of aliens is that they are very closely related to demons what people would consider demons in the bible and yet he's still pushing for the disclosure like does he have absolutely no religious convictions whatsoever well if he's a freemason i mean that kind of sums it up but it just kind of goes to show yeah he has an agenda of course he does and it's not actually too far from disney's agenda because they're pushing the occult i mean basically that's what aliens are they're all related fascinating and we're actually going to prove that uh what you said there we're going to prove that from what he said himself that he says he believes these things are uh heavily ties to demonic activity whatever it is they don't like humans period he says um i'm not even sure if i got that clip in here but i'm sure it's in one of the clips uh from the very beginning of the bumper of this episode um travis uh any thoughts before we begin the the the history of what's going on here and how he got involved in the government from his own lips musicians want to push messages and uh it generally they want to tell you something uh some don't some just sing the beat and say something you're like what does this even mean but this is a musician that wants to tell you something very very specific and uh and he's trying to build credibility and so what is he doing in this in this whole lead up we've already seen he's trying to build credibility he's trying to tell you why you should believe him and then he's inviting you to maybe hopefully in his own mind seemingly believe something new about reality due to whatever he can show you from this point forward he wants to change your mind and uh that should put everybody on guard who seemingly is being told what they should believe about reality from a different source right 100 and i i think it's it's fascinating that he freely admits that these things are have uh no good intent but we should hey maybe this will change our lives and uh it's gonna change our lives all right let's start let's not start talking to him um i actually have more information about his religious and what he believes about that further on into the clip because in the movie he i mean anybody who writes a script which i have i mean he's in the credits as one of the writers the main writer of this script um they put themselves in here and they they write they write their ideas into the characters i mean that's he's really said that it's propaganda so we're gonna look and see what he believes about religion what he said in

49:40 different articles and what uh we're gonna actually see the parts of the movie too so but first let's dump right straight into this podcast from coast to coast am from 2016 man i put all these clips through uh youtube's algorithm and none of them came back and i'm not gonna get back as as strikes so cross your fingers and say a prayer here we go uh let's do this let's see if i can find it i got that opportunity i went up and i did the introduction to the crowd and then i got the five minutes uh to sit down alone and and say whatever it is i wanted to say so at that time i didn't say anything about this this subject i um just said hey i have an idea for a project and this project i think if it's done correctly will be a success and i think it's gonna reverse the cynicism that people have about government and what so what he's doing i mean just gonna preface it right now he's in the government they've asked him to come talk about something he said i'll only do it if i get to talk to some one of the dudes that's in that's i'm being presented to and he says okay i got the time with them i'm gonna talk to them in in the u.s government now watch this people have about the you know frankly the military industrial complex i think that if i do this um you know places like this and other arms of the government would would be would be happy that it got communicated and but i but i didn't bring up anything that was you know um you didn't mention ufos you don't mention ufos don't even do that because you won't you'll get kicked right out of the door so uh he goes okay that that's great um and i said can i come up in a couple weeks and tell you more about it absolutely so a couple weeks go by then i come back up i go through four layers of security i go through machine guns guys machine guns and then i get escorted into a very specific building that's with a bunch of buildings this is somewhere out in the middle of the desert somewhere and uh and then i go through two layers of electronic code entry systems and then you hear the lock go you know they make their sounds and the doors open up now i'm in a hallway and that hallway has speakers lining the ceiling just playing white noise kind of like tv static and that's there so you don't hear anybody's conversations uh and and the hallway also has a series of doors and all the doors have kind of like those big rotary locks like a safe lock on them so then we so we go through that hallway and then they just twist the the knobs on the doors and then you hear the big sound and that door opens up and now i'm in the center of the building three engineers work with the the head of the company and so i walk in and they're sitting there and they're ready for what it is i wanted to pitch them so you know i'm nervously trying to figure out what i'm going to say i i had no plan for even bringing up ufos then either i was smarter than that so we're talking and one person apparently did a bunch of research on me and knew that i was all about the security and i was smart enough to do that so we're talking and one person apparently did a bunch of research on me and knew that i was all about the security all into the subject so halfway through the conversation uh this person says so what about all the conspiracy stuff that you're in into and just so now i'm being eyeballed by three very important people and i'm just totally got caught you know and i'm like oh my god what am i going to do right now so i i tried to talk my way out of it and then in comes the head of the company the big big dude uh and and uh kind of saved the moment but at the same time you know uh he got introduced to the conversation right at that point and i'm like oh my god what am i going to do right at that point so right when he right you know i i said you know you come in at a very interesting part of the conversation uh this person brought up you know the whole ufo issue with me um i just want you to know that uh i don't plan on you know treating that disrespectfully with this project and then i got interrupted and the head guy says we cannot be involved with anything that has anything to do with that subject especially since there has been absolutely no evidence whatsoever that it exists so bam i'm just cut off right there and now i'm my heart's racing and i'm like where do i do so the only thing that i can think of at the moment is i said well edgar allen mitchell the sixth man to walk on the moon is out telling all the young people of the world that this is real so we have a credibility issue that we have to attack but we don't have to attack it here or now and we could talk this through it's just something that young people think and i want you to know a little bit more about my project and so i got my way through i was like oh my god i i'm still here so they said okay continue so that specific meeting ended and then i just said you know uh hell with it i said sir can i speak to you for five minutes alone this is like this is the tom that even my old band members know you know i'll just go for something uh this is the punk rock kid inside of me right so uh and he goes sure and so the

54:26 other people kind of look at me weird and they're like okay so we leave and i kind of looked at them and said so they stood up and i i i shut the door and now i'm in the middle of all these different layers of security and i'm sitting with this person i and i just i just go for broke i just go this is exactly what i said i want you to understand something and and i and i sit down two feet in front of him and he's staring at me in the suit i go i understand the national security implications about about what i'm about to say um i am not naive to the to the topic um and uh i i think if you hear me out you're going to see that there's something about it and i'm not going to say it's not accurate and what i'm about to propose and uh and he goes well and he goes well what topic are you talking about i go ufo sir now this is what i want to try and do and so then i just laid out this entire secret machines project idea and i said i'm going to send and i said but over the past 30 years there's been a program to indoctrinate people to the idea that this might be real but the problem is is all the young adults of the world they use the internet they have iphones they talk to each other much quicker than people ever have so this program that everyone's been following from the 50s is far outdated it's antiquated people have surpassed it and now they don't trust you guys now they don't like you guys now they graduate from mit and they want to work for elon musk and they don't want to work here help help me help you guys and um and he then he stops me and because i said frankly there's been some bad things that have happened for the past 30 years on the subject and he stops me and i'm kind of going okay so now i'm in trouble i just went right into this stuff what's going to and and he looks at me he takes a breath and he goes what kind of bad things has the government done with this subject very very like calm and and and and staring me straight in the eyes and so i came up with a couple a couple things that i can't say here and um and and i said if you allow me to do this what i'm trying to do then then that i'm going to ask you for some help i need advisors i need people to help guide me so i don't keep people i will not do that anymore we need to tell the truth and i just know what i said at the time i said you got a picture of those little chickens running across the road and someone's guiding them i'm all i'm that little chicken and i'm racing but i don't want to get hit by a car along the way you know and uh but it was no joke when there's nothing there's nothing to laugh at during this time so i said i'm going to send you something i want you to read it and please if you find anything about it good you know if there's any kind of merit in this at all i would just just respond any way you can because i didn't think you could respond in an email or anything he goes okay thank you for that and then the meeting was done so what i did was the non-fiction books that we've been working on right next to the secret machines novel and parallel has it's a it's a thesis of the ufo phenomenon so i took the prologue to that thesis and i sent it to him and i'm sitting there going oh my god what did i do what did i do i shouldn't have sent an email off obviously you don't sit in an email every email you have with this group it has all these like government um you know stamps all over the email because you know it goes through it goes through dod servers and all this stuff but i had no other way to get it to him so i did so i just sat there and i didn't hear anything for a couple weeks i was like okay that relationship's done i fried that thing i went in there talking about you know i tell people it's like walking into somebody during world war ii and say hey about that nuclear bomb you're building in secret you know i want to talk to you about that that's that's basically what i did um well two weeks later i get this email and it says i want you to be next to the pentagon at this date and this time you're going to be meeting somebody from the cia basically is it said it in a different way but i can't say what it said and so i i was like oh my god oh my god like it's it's working sorry about the omg's in there but i i think i think it's interesting i'm going to pause it right there just for a second because we got a little bit more that he's going to talk about because he's not done yet he's this is this is the backstory that he shouldn't have told and what really got him in a lot of trouble after the wiki leaks thing because he uh he kind of revealed a little too much about what was going on behind there i think he severed those connections after this um that's that's more the story further on but um i want you to notice that he said he wanted advisors he told this guy that he wants advisors who was this guy well we're going to find out who this guy is and we're going to give some legitimacy to what's going on here because i got some evidence behind you that just blow your socks off and then we're going to get into his his movie uh before we get into the next uh semi-long clip uh anybody have any comments you don't have to say anything but if you have any comments uh speak up okay we'll run you want to

59:20 you want to say something else i just want to say i'm invested and i want to hear more let's go yeah all right i i loved uh i loved his little intro door to door and giving us a little walk through it felt like we were getting deeper and deeper into willy wonka's chocolate factory or something like the way it was making i wonder how exciting he's i went through a door and then i think he was it's like wow i was thinking about i think he may have been describing a skiff which uh we've been hearing more about right and uh congress they're trying to get these are uh what is the abbreviation don't have it off the top of my head a sensitive compartment uh sensitive compartmented information facility uh that kind of lines up with what he was saying with the white noise being played and they're like waiting in these kind of board rooms this is essentially what it is it's a bunch of these uh rooms that are soundproofed out and blocked from waves so serious business i mean obviously you we heard with congress they were having a hard time getting one to talk about the ufo stuff but it seems like that is what tom delong is describing and he managed to get one just fine right right he went on another podcast after this a radio show and he they asked him a bunch of questions about this interview he was like i don't know what to do i don't know what to do i don't know he couldn't he said i can't say anything else about it i'm not allowed to say anything about so i think he got in in hot water after doing this one with uh with coast to coast but we're gonna we're gonna let it go another so here's uh here's the rest of it or a little bit more and then we'll talk about it so i get on a plane and i fly out to dc uh and this is where it gets pretty sketchy but it was insane so i i uh i go to my meeting i had to go to a very specific location that was in a rock's throw of the pentagon and i go to the back of a room at a certain location and there's two guys in suits waiting at a table for me so i go and i sit down at the table and uh the person i was talking to is one of the persons and he goes i think this would be a good time for you to tell this person what you told me and uh and i'm sitting there kind of in my mind i'm going well what do i say do i tell him everything i told you or some of the things am i allowed to tell him that i told you these things or i had no idea what i was going to say and i'm sitting there kind of in my mind i have no idea what to say so i said okay i'll just go for it so i went through the exact same pitch at the so i talked about 20 some minutes because they were just eyeballing me like hawks you know so i don't i at this point i i just don't know i've never been in these situations before so i didn't know if i was saying the wrong thing or not but i was just trying to be very respectful and i went through with it and i finished my speech the person is just staring at me i mean these squinting eyes you know the beard the suit i mean looks exactly straight out of a movie an espionage movie uh takes a breath and goes things like this don't happen at the white house they don't happen at the hill they happen in places like this at tables like this where a few men get together and decide to push the ball down the field and then the meeting was done i mean done like a movie done uh so the very next day i got sent over to nasa and i'm at the highest level at nasa i and i i decided to do the same thing where i ask everyone to leave so uh i this one person uh i did the pitch one more time and they said you need to meet somebody so that person flies out to san diego i go to another meeting we get on a conference call and this person is a very important um in the military i can't say which branch but they're all ranked but then after they left that particular branch of the military they did something very very important for another agency and that person says come fly and meet me up here in san francisco so i within the next 48 hours so i got on a plane and go there and now i'm sitting on a nasa ames um nasa has three three divisions there's ames research jpl and then just nasa the traditional nasa that's the one that i'm sitting on and i'm sitting on a nasa ames and i'm sitting on a nasa that everyone knows i'm at ames research center and i go through my whole pitch again and this person um stops me and goes uh i just want you to know i'm a skeptic on this stuff and i said i understand that sir but i i knew you would say that but let me just continue and tell you what i'm trying to do 20 minutes later i just want you to know i'm just i'm a skeptic and i go i know i know you are you already said that you know and i keep talking and by the time i got to to kind of concluding what this project would be he just stared at me and i said i'm a skeptic and i said i'm just staring at me and then he takes a deep breath and says introduce him to the general and

1:04:08 then i was like well who's that and they're both just staring at me because there was this guy that was right next to him uh a very serious guy and uh i all of a sudden on my email two hours later i'm talking to somebody that has changed the entire course of this whole project so i get on the phone with that person that same evening and i go through the same situation so i'm starting to walk through what i'm trying to do and how how i plan to do it and this person goes i want you to know i'm a skeptic on this stuff and i go sir i knew you would say that uh but let me explain a little bit more so i walked through it again and then the person goes i uh i just gotta say it i'm a skeptic you know it was it was verbatim what they all do it right they all do it they all do it but on the third time he goes i swore an oath to my country and i said sir i know you did and i'm not asking for you to give me classified information i don't deserve it but i think if you understand what i'm about to do with this project you may think it deserves your attention and then he goes i'm afraid what you might find is a bunch of men in suits standing around an elephant and i said i'm i i'm i was afraid you were going to say that but can you help me and he says fly out and meet me and that's where that's that's where things get interesting this is where things get interesting so i'm going to reveal who this actual general was because we got uh wikileaks articles and emails from the pedestal files that actually show this what's interesting about the pedestal files is that they were deleted from wikileaks's server they're still gone i mentioned this a few episodes ago they just vanished just gone i mean i've gone through them a couple years ago and i was like wow i found this wow i found this didn't save anything but you can still go back if you know the urls which i have here and i'm going to reveal who this actual general was because we've got wikileaks articles several of them and i i can go into the archive.org has the wayback machine if you know what i'm talking about and you can you can get these emails still because they're still archived in the wayback machine but they are gone from wikileaks i thought wikileaks was like this special server that the government couldn't touch i don't know how they're disappeared what in the world so i i i that made me question everything it's like okay what is this being leaked as a uh uh purposeful because obviously the government's going to be working with with the blink 182 guy tom delong here now so what's really going on so part of this show is trying to understand this from a christian perspective understand part is taking the history and going okay let's reanalyze it from the lens of the bible because this is this is uh important stuff and we've already as uh as christians we know what is our authority that's the biblical scriptures so how does this tie in well we've we've figured that out this this uh it's so funny because so many people so many podcasts talk about this topic and they're like we don't know let's ask a bunch of questions and then not give you the answers isn't that weird someone appeared and they disappeared i i hate that show i i don't like not knowing what's going on here but we know what's going on here it's all laid out and it's happening right now and uh i want to plug if you haven't seen it two years ago and i'm not sure if you haven't seen it but i'm not sure if you haven't seen it two years ago we did a a documentary called starfall go to starfallmovie.com and watch it because it gives you an update on what's actually happening here so we're not done with tom's story yet i said i cut this into thirds so we got one more long segment and we're gonna conclude with that so you can kind of get wrapped up in the history of where he came from and what's going on with this whole thing but i thought i'd stop it here and kind of uh give a breather for you guys if you guys thought of anything that you want to talk about if not you can go to starfallmovie.com and watch it because it gives you an update on what's that's fine too we can jump right into it how many in the chat in the live stream uh give me a uh give me a tally just say uh yay or nay if you enjoy these longer clips and want to know uh what's going on here we're not getting striked so that's pretty good um matthew uh wendy travis do you have any any comments on this it's great if you don't that's totally fine i i think it's a lot more of just seeing him continuing to build his credibility because it's like once i got to this guy then i got to the next level guy then i got to the next level guy right because that because now surely he's closer to the truth because he's at a new you know three-letter agency or whatever with the guy with the suit you know behind a big table and the table was bigger you know it's just he's just building towards something that he clearly wants to reveal clearly wants you to believe because he he believes if he builds it and builds it and

1:08:59 builds it and he and he tells you just how uh the people that are even talking to him are intimidated by it right this is something that's going to make you question everything right it's it's like uh the the movie trailer likes to say you know forget everything you thought you knew you know like it's just this build-up uh and then eventually he's gonna go kablammo and be like ah did i fool you you know did you buy it you know that's that's where he's headed what do you guys what do you guys think uh wendy or or matthew when i had several comments that were running through my head for one you said that he gets in trouble right so eventually he's he's given the stop sign when does that happen do you know do you have any information about that i have the podcast it's a radio podcast that where he talks about it and um uh i'll have to bring that out because this show was so long so long i didn't want to waste my guests time and and bring too much into that but maybe we'll do a part two and i'll i'll show you where he's kind of like uh i can't talk about that anymore and uh it's it's like so obvious because it's right after the show so this and then he's not able to talk about this stuff anymore what's going on and after that he also talks about how he's lost connections with his his uh email contacts with uh these major generals that we'll talk about in a second which i'm fascinated because we actually have um some military that are in the discord and watches this show i'm curious if if you guys know who this guy is in fact i think we even have someone that works at the uh some of the uh uh big bases that work on these things so um he's he's chatted with me a little bit and i'm curious if he knows who some of these major generals are too wink wink talk to me anyway well so the interesting thing is he says that um he wanted to use this project because the the youth of our nation has lost confidence in the government right and i've read secret machines uh part one and two and then the the non-fiction that follows the first book i've read so not the second one but i will tell you that it certainly does not give me any confidence in my government like the overarching theme is that the government lies to everybody that's literally the point of i mean if you look at all of the um different characters that are involved in the in the book what you see over and over and over is that they're all trying to figure out what's going on and nobody knows the guy that's in the military who um he's the character that's a pilot he actually gets on like the that he starts flying a ufo and then when that one's shot down he gets into the ufo that the government hasn't figured out how it works yet and he just starts tampering with it and flies it telepathically well this guy throughout the entire book is just so angry at the fact that nobody will tell him what's going on and he's like you're getting me in danger you're getting everybody else in danger nobody would be in these situations if you just told us what we needed to know ahead of time and like these are supposed to be the parts that are true the the book says that all of the scenarios all of the um the plot lines are true it's just the glue that holds the characters together it says that's what's false so apparently the stories are supposed to be true but how the characters know each other in the book would be false so they basically weaved the stories together to make it a coherent you know book but yeah there's no um i don't know i i wonder if that's why he got in trouble because what he was supposed to do didn't really happen fascinating well you're you're you're supposed to trust the government more because now they're admitting that they've lied to you you know that's it yeah they're telling the truth i let you know that they've lied to you a lot you know now trust the truth is we're always going to lie to you yeah see closer someone said in the chat here i want to i want to acknowledge the chat real quick the live chat says i still don't see anything new with tom belonging is this guy even active at all yeah he just produced a movie and he's the writer director and producer of this uh giant movie that just came out called monsters in california or monsters of california one of the two that we're going to go over at the end of this episode very soon we're just building up to it because we got to bring everyone up to speed on who this guy is and what he's doing and how legitimate it is that he's what he says and what he's doing and what he thinks and what he's going to do in the future what he's saying is absolutely true, and we have proof of that coming right up here.

1:13:38 But first, let's conclude his story, unless, Matthew, I didn't let you talk, unless you have anything to say. No. And we'll run and see exactly what he's finishing with. Here we go. When I got connected to the general, that was a big, big breakthrough. And before I talk a little bit more about how I got, you know, I got more trust from these guys, what happened was is I was up at NASA Ames, you know, I got connected to a very specific person, and that person had me fly out and meet them. So this is where it gets really interesting. So I go out to a certain city, and I land at the airport, and I walk through security, and I meet this person. The person takes me security.

1:14:30 And I go to the back of the restaurant. There's nobody in that area. And we sit at a booth for two hours. And while we're sitting there, he leans across the table, and this is the first, the first, very first words that were said to me. It was the Cold War. And every single day we lived under the threat of nuclear war. Every single day we believed and really thought in the deepest part of our souls that nuclear war was going to happen. That nuclear war could happen at any given moment. And then he stops. And he goes, and somewhere in those years, and he looked me in the eye, he goes, we found a life form. And everything that we did and every decision that we made with that life form was because of the consciousness at that time. And I said, sir, you know, when taking into account things that this life form has done, for example, turning our nuclear weapons on and readying them for launch, and then he interrupts me, puts a finger in my face and says, there are heroes in Russia, heroes.

1:15:37 And under grave risk to himself and to his country, they did not fire back. And at that moment, I realized it already started. This new game I was in of working with people in like a dance of words and information was already coming. There was no... There was no... There was no... There was no like small talk. Like we didn't just sit down and just say, hey, let's have a beer and let's like get to know each other. So let's jump back to that. Let's jump back to that conversation. It was the Cold War. I mean, he's given you sort of the setting for how the cover-up or what we'd call the cover-up began. Yeah, so this is very important for people to remember. And this is where I'm so excited to start chopping down all these pathetic conspiracies that I was involved in as well.

1:16:29 You know? It was the Cold War. We really... He's saying that every day, they really thought about the annihilation of all mankind with these, you know, weapons that were hundreds or thousands of times bigger than what we dropped on Japan. And we had 20,000 each of those things. And all of a sudden, something falls on their laps that's just extraordinary, you know? But even further than that, if you really hear what I'm saying about the nuclear weapons, the UFOs were turning our weapons on and just so Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So these guys went into complete secrecy to start coming up with a defense system against this phenomenon. Now, you know, I try to tell people some analogies on this.

1:17:30 Imagine if someone... Imagine if someone from the CIA came to your house and sat on your couch and said, hey, I want to tell you about that nuclear weapon that they tried to smuggle in through Canada two months ago. And I also want to tell you about this, you know, virus that almost got released in Los Angeles. And I want to... You know, all these... They're not going to do that because they're going to be busy trying to figure out how to find the people that did it or to seal off the borders or to come up with a game plan to get better defensive measures across our country and whatever. Whatever they're doing. That's how this is. That's how big this issue is. They're not worried about if you and I totally understand because they're too busy trying to understand it and come up with a way to defend against it. And at the same time, they really want people to understand this, to know these things, but they don't want it to mess up their efforts.

1:18:23 The more that I started to find out, I thought it was a pretty heroic tale that these were really good men and women. Do you know that in that first conversation that I had with that general, during the two hours... I mean, I didn't even leave the airport. I was in this back booth and I looked at security, get on a plane, go right back home. It was a crazy meeting. But during that, he must have brought up what was best for the... Quote, best for the republic. Best for the free republic. He brought that up probably eight different times. It's very, very, very important to these men what is best for the United States as a free republic. A free country, free-thinking man, and the republic that we built. They're not these crazies running around trying to war... They're not warmongers, you know? Very smart. This person has multiple PhDs. And I wish I could tell you who he is and what...

1:19:21 There was nobody above him. There's nobody. Maybe. Maybe a couple. But when you look at the divisions of how the Department of Defense works, and this... This specific division, it's just extraordinary that I have this contact. So I started using it as much as I could. So I said... So taking it from that point, we talked for two hours, and I said, Sir, I need an advisory committee. And we walked through what I need and why. And so he went out and got the advisors for me. Okay. So now we got an advisory committee coming up here. So this is how... This is where it gets really fascinating. But before we talk about the advisory committee, and how that links to Podesta's email hack, and how that reveals who this general guy actually is, and how we know this whole thing is legitimate.

1:20:08 I mean, this whole thing ties together. We're going to talk a little bit about what he said. Because before I show you absolute evidence, you're going to have to tell me... You're going to have to believe me for a second that this, what I'm saying, and what I believe is absolutely... That this guy's at least telling his side of the story from what happened. And it's not just some lie that's made up. He's telling you what is going on in his life. So what's happened here? Let's take this all as legitimate for a second. These things come in out of nowhere during the end of the world wars. And they start messing around with nuclear weapons. Turning things off, turning things on. He only says one thing about turning things off. What do you see on? I forget which one. But there's on the other side of the world, they're turning them off or on the other way.

1:21:00 Okay. So this isn't like some benevolent being that's trying to make sure that these things are just turned off so that they don't get shot out. No, this is a... Hey, we're playing games here. This is a spiritual phenomenon that is a trickster that's playing games. And it's playing games with some of the most dangerous technology we have because it's allowed to. And so the government, let's take what his story has face value. The government went into secrecy and said, okay, okay, okay. Everyone put out a cover story. We're going to figure this out before it gets out of hand because the people will go bonkers if they found out that our nuclear weapons are going off by themselves. And I mean, we would have absolutely haywire. So they went out and tried to figure out how they could stop spiritualism from happening. I mean, whoa. I mean, take that for a... Sit back and chew on that for a second.

1:21:59 The government has... The government has been having trouble with spiritualism for a long time, but more so very physically. And we're going to get into that a little bit more here in a second. But I actually do have another clip before I prove it, but I don't remember why I included it. So it's a mystery to me. I think it was one I was going to put into the Patreon. So I might watch a bit of it and then we'll shoot it over to Patreon. But would you guys have any comments on that before I move on to... to proving what I'm seeing here? Painting the United States government in this really positive light that they're trying to preserve the republic. And, you know, they're just really hustling for the safety and the good of all of the citizens. It's kind of strange when you contrast it with his little story about, yeah, those decisions aren't made in Congress or in the White House.

1:22:57 They're made in little tables like this. And we decide what happens. And that's what we're actually seeing with the congressional hearings now. And I mean, maybe some of them are actually outraged about this. Maybe some of them are acting like they're outraged. But that seems to be the central theme. The whole point of this go-ahead with the UAP is not necessarily the phenomenon itself. It's there are secret access projects and the military-industrial complex has become way too... overbearing and it can do whatever it wants to do. So now we have to have other portions of the government. You know, it's essentially, it's like the body is fighting itself. It's, you know, the right arm is punching the gut. The left arm is punching the face. And it's just a total clown show right now.

1:23:49 But it's funny how Tom goes, you know, back and forth between these two extremes. It just seems a little froward to me. It seems a little double-minded. Yeah. Confused man in his way. And I want to add to that before I pass it down to you guys. What you're saying is 100% true because we have Larry Kirkpatrick, right? The guy who heads up Arrow, I think it is. Arrow or A-Tip? Sean. Sean. Sean Kirkpatrick. Kirkpatrick, yeah. That guy. And thank you for checking me, fact-checking me. So what... And he just came out. I have a news article I wanted to present tonight, but it just didn't fit. It fits perfect here. Where he said that, yeah, so everything that... That David Grutch said, I've been looking into it and there is some truth to what he's saying. This is the guy that's getting booted from the government for not looking into some of the stuff that Grutch had originally presented to him.

1:24:46 And now he's saying that, yeah, I think it's actually probably true, some of the stuff he's saying. And some of the stuff he's saying is pretty bizarre, if you haven't already looked into David Grutch and everything like that. If you have, great. If you haven't, you have to watch further episodes back. We talk about David Grutch to find out exactly what's going on with that. What about you guys? Travis or Wendy, what do you think about this last clip before I move on? I think it's really fascinating when you look at some of the previous episodes here on Strange Normal and you take a look at what the New Age is saying about these aliens that they channel all the time. Because what are they saying? They're here for our good and they have a message for us, which is what? We're going to destroy the world without their help. We need them. They're our cosmic saviors, or however they word it. And here, Tom DeLonge is saying, wait, the heroes are actually in Russia because of what these beings are doing.

1:25:46 They're trying to cause this war, but wait, how does that fit? We're hearing separate stories here. So are they good? Are they not? It's like the aliens need to get their story straight. Well, what Jesus said was, what was that verse? He says that, oh, it came to me and I laughed. It's on the tip of my tongue where he says that Satan's world is basically non, it's not coherent. It's not sticking together. Someone's going to know what I'm talking about here in the chat, but man, that just totally left me. I'm going to think of it in a second. They're deceivers though, you know? So I feel like they're just going to meddle and do whatever they can to confuse people. I feel like once somebody gets kind of like a hang on, hey, this is what's going on. They're like, not quite. Let's mix it up a bit.

1:26:42 So it kind of fits. Very good. Travis, any thoughts before I move on? Man, Tom DeLonge has just battled through all the opposition and he finally gets to the restaurant at the quiet table in the back and he's finally found his source of truth. I mean, this is the hero's journey, Tom DeLonge, as he searches for truth. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. It's so interesting to me because you get to the back table, the guy in the restaurant, and he's like, let me level with you, Tom. Here's the lowdown. I'm going to tell you all the things you've been seeking at every stop prior. You know, it's like, it's great. You know, it's very, it's certainly what he's trying to build for you. He's trying to give you this picture that he's getting closer and closer to something that is valuable. And man, this guy cannot wait for you to believe what he believes about it as well.

1:27:34 And I'm excited about the next clip. Yeah, yeah, right on. It would be funny if they were all just pulling a big prank on him. They were just like, yeah, the lead singer of Blink-182, he wants to talk about aliens. Really? That's kind of a slow week. Let's do the restaurant routine. Yeah, yeah, the restaurant routine, for sure. They got a great Reuben. All right, I'm down. It's taking to San Francisco. Florida, take him to NASA, take him around. Let's show them what it was. Yeah, some of the people in the chat, they found the verse that I was talking about. It was, kingdom divided against itself shall not stand. And it talks about how Satan's kingdom is divided against itself. I mean, when your main principle is do what thy wilt, everyone has their own opinion.

1:28:29 And so you can't stand. I mean, that's why you need a coherent law, a system that puts everything, a law of love that makes everyone, not makes everyone, but guides everyone's principles because they want to. And they said this is the best way to happen. So I think that's important. Let's listen to this clip. I might have to pause it here because I don't know if this is the one I wanted to present tonight. I think it just got randomly put in the wrong spot. But anyways, here we go. What got really, what was really interesting about this is that I started to think about it. That I started getting advisors that were in different areas. You know, people that deal with space, people that deal with intelligence, people that deal with bio-warfare, stuff that you wouldn't necessarily think I should need, but I got them, you know. And now I had the ability to start pulling these people together.

1:29:22 And I had this one really interesting contact out in Washington, D.C. that was connected to the highest levels of government. That's how I can say it. And so I was able to pull off a coup in regards to what anybody in this field has ever been able to pull off, which was a conversation with not only my advisors, the most important group of the advisors, and somebody representing basically the highest levels of the land and talking about how do we do something to help the youth understand that this is a reality, but that they're doing really good work and they could use the empowerment. They could use the citizens of the United States and the world understanding why it's been kept secret and that they're not doing it out of malicious reasons. They're doing it because it's an ongoing task. It's an ongoing issue. And they don't fully understand it yet, but they're trying their hardest and spending a lot of time and lots of money and have the brightest minds that they can find and they're building things and they're having breakthroughs that I think, frankly, we would all be incredibly proud of as a nation of what they've done.

1:30:49 Tom, I don't think you know what a coup d'etat is, but I'll just let you take it as it is. Forget secret machines. We have a secret president and his name is Tom DeLonge. He led a successful coup. But I think it's fascinating. So this next, I can't see this very well because my screen is too small, but I'm going to show you this real quick. This is AP news article. And like that sound effect? That's what makes it sound like that. I'm going to try to maximize this so I can read it. I can't read it. I'm going to have Matthew read it because I think you can see it better than me. But it says Washington. New evidence appears to show that hackers earlier this year stole more than 50,000 emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign.

1:31:46 Now, this is back in 2016. An audacious electronic attack blamed on Russia's government and one that has resulted in embarrassing political disclosures about Democrats in the final weeks before the U.S. president elections. The hackers sent John Podesta an official-looking email. This is fascinating to me because I'm an IT nerd and I want to know exactly how they hacked into it. But the long and the short of it is that they hacked into a dude's password and they collected all his emails. And so they basically sent this thing, said, hey, you got to change your password. I'm going to make it short for you guys. And it made it look like a legitimate email. It came from the Ukraine area and they traced it back. And then they were sent to their, their IT guys on the weekend when they had very little security and our staff members and one of the staff members, apparently he was the new guy, I guess, because he sent it back and said, yeah, this is legit.

1:32:44 You should change your password. Well, Podesta goes in there and clicks it and puts his password into this random website and voila, you have all his passwords, all his emails that were collected. And some of those emails, and this is important because some of those emails were like this one, right here. Look at this email. This is from t.delongatme.com and to john.podesta at gmail.com. Now, where am I getting this from? Well, this is actually from the WikiLeaks article. This is the stuff that came out. And what does the subject say? General McClassland. General McCassland. McClassland? Am I saying that right? I love the way you say it. McClassland. McClassland. The body of the, the email says, he mentioned he's a skeptic.

1:33:35 He's not. Okay, so who is he talking about here? He just talked about a bunch of skeptics, right? And I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him a four-hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago. Trust me. The advice has already been happening. Oh man, I can barely see that. Am I saying that right? Been happening on how to do all this. He just has to say that out loud, but not, but he is not, is very, very aware. He, as he was in charge of all of the stuff, when Roswell, yeah, I do. You read the rest of it. I can barely see it. When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. General McClassland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a couple of years ago.

1:34:31 He not only knows, what I'm trying to achieve, he helped assemble my advisory team. He's a very important man. Best, Tom DeLonge. Tom DeLonge, founder. Tom at stars, to thestarsinc.com. So Tom, Tom is just telling John Podesta, who's very interested in UFOs, to be honest. He's been fascinated by this for a long time, but I don't think it was probably right for Tom just to tell what he can't tell who this guy is to John Podesta. Even if he is working with Hillary Clinton. Well, John Podesta is a slimy character. He's a slimy, slimy man. I wouldn't be surprised if he belongs to a number of secret societies and if they haven't bumped into each other a couple of times in real life. So there's a comfortable aspect going back and forth.

1:35:28 And it's weird too that John Podesta is the one being talked to about UAP when he hasn't publicly, I don't think there's anything about him going on the record saying anything about UAP, UFO, non-human intelligence. So it's like, what's going on behind the scenes? Are they all just kind of discussing this thing? And a couple of them are like, I'm the public face. So I'll go up and I'll say the crazy stuff that we talk about in private. But when we're emailing each other, we're all just kind of in on this grand thing. It's a conspiracy by its definition. This is conspiracy, people. If you wanted to know what it looks like, it was in the Podesta emails, which, by the way, covers a lot more than just UAP stuff. Oh, yeah. And all the emails that were in here that disappeared, again, if you go to this email, this link, I should just bring it up, it just says, oh, we're rebuilding this page.

1:36:24 Yeah, you've been rebuilding for a year. And I don't know what happened to this thing, but it's gone. Yeah. Yeah. So when I was working on Starfall, which is the documentary that you guys, if you haven't seen, go watch, starfallmovie.com, this is one clip from there that I wanted to show you. These are two guys that were inside that email hack that Tom DeLonge was actually working with, the Major General Michael Kerry and General Neil William McCasland. So McCasland, yeah. And so I think, I even, I was like, okay, do these guys, are these on YouTube? Do they talk about any of this stuff? No, no, nothing. I mean, there's some random speeches by the guy, Major General Michael Kerry up there, but McCasland is nowhere to be seen.

1:37:18 Works in the Air Force Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. We've heard of that Air Force Base before. And this guy is a special assistant to the company. To the Commander Peterson's Air Force Base Space Command. Space Command, interesting. And that was, so that's a little bit fascinating to me. But that's, I wish I could show you all the emails, but it's hard to find them now because they're so missing and I don't have all the links anymore. But I was able to at least dig that one up for this episode because it was important to prove that, Tom DeLonge is just not making up stories here. He was actually in the government, talking about this strange spiritual phenomenon to other government employees.

1:38:05 And that's why we're having all this stuff coming out in Congress right now. Because they are working behind the scenes to push this thing forward. And the reason why we talk about this on this channel is because it's going to become a much bigger deal here in the future. As former occultists that became Christians have come out and said it would. So, I think with that, we're actually going to go into the movie clips now. But do you have any thoughts on that before we do? Yeah. One thing that really stood out when Tom was talking in that final clip before you went to the email, was he pointed out, and I love it when people talk about, and kids and young people, and use the word, the youths.

1:38:58 But he essentially talked about, this focus on the youth. Because it's like, it's as if other people are from different time, from a different indoctrination period of what reality is. And it's like, to get people to really buy in and sink their teeth into this, they want to capture the hearts and minds of the youth. How can we really get the youth on our side with this? It's such a big focus of his. And we've mentioned Disney. It's such a big focus today for parents and people who work around young people and young people watching. It's like the devil wants you to think in a certain direction. Tom DeLonge would very much love for you to agree with him about reality and whatever he wants to further present to you. And it just perks up my ears and it made me feel a little sad inside that that's really the attack demographic it seems like for him.

1:39:55 Yeah. Train up a child, I guess the Bible says, right? Fascinating, fascinating. With that, I think it's important to jump into this next segment. This next segment is the movie he made. And although it is a B movie, I don't think it, I don't even know if it went into theater. It's still better than anything I've ever made. I'm a little jealous if I made something like this, but not with the same message. But he, so what I'm saying is, it's not any good, but it's pretty good. So I'm advocating, don't go see it. It's pretty crass. But check this clip out right here. What do you see in this clip? This is the first few seconds of the movie. What does that say?

1:40:58 Okay. In the nice aerial font or whatever it is, the standard font that's there. To the stars, to the stars. So this is his company that he's talked about from the very beginning. And in that first clip that I showed him. This is his Disney. Yeah, this is his Disney. This is what he's using, as he said, to push a message out that's going to be talked about for generations that's going to change the world. And this is what he's using. So he's now first made Secret Machine books, which we did a whole episode on those Secret Machine books. Maybe two. I forget with Wendy, right? And now he's talking about it inside this. And it's blatant where the propaganda begins and ends. It's not, it's just blatant.

1:41:50 So I'm going to let you guys see some different clips from here and get an idea of what's actually going on. And then we'll conclude. But we got a few clips to go over. You ready for this? Here we go. What's happening here? No idea. So this is the intro scene for the main characters of the movie. They started something that couldn't be stopped. Three best friends about to find out something we thought impossible. Answers. So three best friends start a trip to this haunted house so they can get a picture of the spiritualism in it.

1:43:18 It doesn't even start out with UFOs. This whole thing starts out with demonic activity and how they want to try to find it and to grasp at something they believe. That's what's going on right here. And I find it fascinating that they start with this. Do you have any comments? Anything that you want to say before I go into the next clip? I knew, I knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go for it, Wendy. So before this episode, I had no idea he even made a movie. And I did watch the trailer. And I had to agree completely with Travis. Like, it's well made. It's not, you know, a poor production quality. But it wasn't ever put out into the public. It wasn't ever put out in the theaters. However, it definitely has all the aspects to pull in, like the teens of today.

1:44:09 Or even younger than that. I don't know what kids are watching, you know, when their parents aren't around. But just this brainwashing ability that movies have. You know, again, when you watch a show, it literally fronts, it shuts off the frontal lobe of your brain, which allows you to make rational choices. So you're not thinking logically when you watch these things. It's allowing movies to just subliminally put messages in your head. And yeah, what's the first message? The stuff's demonic. What? Yeah. But it's also using humor. Yeah, yeah. Soften it up. It's just weird to me. They're like, why wouldn't they hide that? Yeah, because it's like you could do that scene with a totally. Oh, sorry. Didn't mean to step on any toes. Travis, would you like to?

1:45:00 No, no. I'm going to let you go and then I'll go. Thank you. Oh, OK. Yeah, it's it's funny because you play that scene out with a totally different tone. And it has been played out that way because it's like a paranormal investigation type of a thing. But because the guy is like, oh, oh, I'm like getting stripped down to his boxers and another guy's getting blasted out of the room. It's just it becomes like a Scooby Doo type of a thing. You're not, you know, you're not thinking of it being like, wow, there's a there's a demonic spirit who just threw a man through a hole. There's a man who just threw a man through a window and is like physically tormenting another man. And they're scrambling to get footage of it. It's just it totally removes you from that. It's like it's like you said, when it's disarming and it softens you up to it and it's like it does sucker you. And I think that humor is very interesting thing, because I do think that God intends for us to find humor and things and to enjoy laughing and making each other laugh.

1:45:58 But the devil understands. Us on that level and knows that, you know, if I can get them in, if I can get them laughing, get them comfortable, I can just dial it up. And sometimes he's like, I don't even need to come out subtly. I can come out swinging really hard and heavy. I mean, as long as they're entertained by what I'm doing, they're going to keep watching. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No, humor definitely disarms you to to receive something that isn't necessarily what the humor is about. Right. It's a you laugh, laugh, ha ha. And then you're seeing something, you're beholding something, you're receiving something more intentional and maybe more nefarious. But I actually have seen the trailer to this as well. Brad, are you going to show the trailer? I don't have the trailer in here. We can do that. But I kind of want to. Well, I can just break down just a couple aspects of that trailer. It begins with drug use.

1:46:55 Then it goes into trying to contact someone. Trying to contact the dead. Mm hmm. And then it goes into, you know, some realm of talking about aliens and the spiritual realms. And like it's it's just connecting all of this. And clearly it's about aliens. So it's yeah, it's fascinating how spiritual they hit you and they make it fun. Just like this trailer. They make it funny. They make it loose. They make it. Hey, these these would be your friends from school type thing. Like these are just the people that the world today is kind of pushing as fun. And, you know, it's it's definitely like you said, it's it's a well-made production. Right. Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here. And I think it's it's not Disney. I mean, it's not like you have like billions of people working on it. Like but it's it's good enough for a couple of guys that I'm you guys had a budget.

1:47:46 I mean, wow. All right. So let's go into something a little more serious. The message number two that's being pushed on this is fascinating. Because we're suddenly out of nowhere. We're still in the same act. I guess you could say if it was a play and we're talking about this. This amazing thing that's happening there. They're going through and they're looking at trying to find this paranormal activity in these houses. And then suddenly we go into prayer. Let's pray. This is the very next scene. Yeah. Okay, fine. And I'll pray with your brother. And sister. You guys.

1:48:34 I had the craziest night last night. I'm serious. You got to hear this. It was unbelievable. You won't believe it. We saw a real ghost. I mean it. And I think I got it on camera. It was big. Really big. It moved like an apparition. It almost killed Toe. Oh, my God. Della, shut up and leave mom alone. What? What am I doing? You're constantly trying to make her feel stupid for her beliefs. And it's super lame. No, I'm not. This stuff is gnarly. And if anyone saw what we saw last night, they'd feel pretty different about things. Dallas, I want you to stay away from this stuff. You've been chasing it for three years, ever since your dad's accident. And you know what? I'm done hearing about it. Whatever your dad did with Jim and the program or whatever, it's over. It's dark.

1:49:22 And I don't want you having anything to do with it. God. Why are you so on edge when you walk through the door? But you're out all night chasing invisible monsters with your friends. And then you come at us like we're the weird ones. Can we just stop and have a normal dinner for once? Invisible monsters? You believe a man in a toga in Birkenstocks created Jupiter. Come on. Most people on Earth believe in the Bible. So I guess we are the crazy ones and you are the soul enlightened one. I guess so. Jesus Christ. Exactly. Trillions of galaxies discovered. And the creator of your universe is a handsome white dude that came to this planet only a few thousand years ago, mind you. 20 billion years after the planets were created.

1:50:08 And millions of years after life was already here. But no, no, that makes sense. Dallas, now you're being blasphemous. Dad never would have thought science was crazy. Well, dad is gone. Isn't he? And he is not coming back. And I wish you would just accept that so we could all move on with our lives. Look, I love you. God loves you. And that's all anyone here needs. You don't even know what God is. God could be a sea of energy for all we know. I guess we still disagree on a lot of stuff. Wow. Wow. That deserves some comment. Let's pray. Let's not pray again. Some of that needs to be commented on. Some of that needs to be decompiled.

1:50:56 Because that was a fascinating clip that I didn't expect to see in such a, in such a, oh, you know, these aliens have nothing to do with God style movie. How does this come out of nowhere? Well, I have a little bit, before we comment on it, I have a little bit of an explanation of that. Tom wrote this. So, he wrote it from his own experience. Because that's what you can pull from unless you're channeling demon spirits, I assume. Maybe he did. But, unfortunately, I didn't put these clips in here. And I meant to before we went live today. So, I'm going to have to read them off the screen. You can Google these sentences so you can find where the exact article is. But, faith versus science. This is from when he was interviewing about this movie itself.

1:51:43 One element that particularly struck me more for the amount of time that Monsters of California spends on it is the push and pull between belief in Christianity and the reliance on scientific fact. Given his fascination with alien life and interplanetary exploration, Tom DeLonge clearly falls on the science side of the debate. As does Dallas, the character who displays some of Tom's best qualities. You can see where this is going. He's putting himself into the script. But Tom and his co-screenwriter, Ian Miller, enjoy staging arguments between Dallas and his mother. Because of their faith, standing in opposition of her son's logical conclusions. As DeLonge tells me, this comes from his own childhood experiences, just as I surmised, making Monsters of California that much more personal and that much more accessible.

1:52:45 This is what Tom says. My mom is a Christian. I grew up in a Christian household, and my dad was not. And there was a lot of pain and fighting and broken home ingredients because of that. I learned a lot. I learned everything about Christianity just growing up. Having to go to church every Sunday. But I also hated it. I felt it was weird. I didn't understand it because I knew that there were so many religions that are around a lot longer. And I also knew the universe was around so much longer before that. So none of it made sense to me. In 2003, while on a break from the recording, what would go on to be their self-titled album, Blink-182, traveled to the Middle East to play for some troops following the Iraq War.

1:53:34 It was on that trip that DeLonge came to a crucial understanding. He said, none of these people, I'm going to clean this up a little bit, over here give a flying flip about our version of God. They have their own that has been around for even longer. And I was like, why do we even think what we know what we know? Once I started really digging into the UFO and learning about that, it opened the door to everything to do with the fabric of reality and consciousness, religion and secrecy, DNA and biology. There are all these branches of the tree. What you come to learn is that over time, science was about what's measurable. What's measurable and whatever tools we have at the time. This is Tom DeLonge talking in case you're just tuning in. I'm not saying this.

1:54:26 Anything else is covered paranormal or metaphysical. We just throw it into our religion. We go, we just go, we can't measure that because we haven't invented a tool to measure that. So that's God, you know, that's, that's Catholicism. He said, that's the study of Islam. That's whatever you want it to say. But now we are learning through it. We are learning through the quantum physics and through the tools we've made where it be CERN or whatever, uh, that what these things really are and the bowels of, of, uh, Yale or, or Harvard or Lawrence or Livermore. Now we know that all this stuff we've pawned off has religion is actually measurable. Now we are taking faith and spirituality and consciousness and religion and taking Newton physics and talking about Newton's physics.

1:55:20 And, and now they're merging. Now it's all science. Now it's all reality. And so he goes in and talks about this stuff and, and, and he's clearly, uh, making the assumptions that many people are going to make someday. They're going to say, well, all this stuff, because you haven't received the Bible said because they haven't received the love of, of, of truth. Check me on that. Uh, they, they will, uh, believe a lie, right? And so this is the lie that's starting to be believed that all, all this stuff that's happening right now is true religion and it's being created by deceivers. That's the truth. And so how can you believe anything if it's created by deceivers, any, any comments on that? I do. Um, he's saying because, because they, uh, love, not the truth that God gives them over to the deception.

1:56:18 So it's like you, you take a little bit of the deception and if that's what you're going to run with, God says, have it. If that's what you choose, just have it. Um, looking at this first bit of the movie, it's really angering to me. It's not surprising because, uh, in his book, Peter Lavenda and Tom DeLonge, they say that all religion is UFO religion, meaning that it all comes together. It's all explaining the same thing. Um, it's the same new age garb. That says, you know, Jesus Christ is just one of the ascended masters, just one way to heaven. But really all religions point to heaven, which as Christians we know is not anywhere near the truth. Um, it's just, it's angering because when you look through all of the case files like Joe Jordan has, what he would say to you is that those who believe in UFOlogy and the new age stuff, they say, yeah, we, we allow.

1:57:15 All religions. We welcome all religions except Christianity. Right? Because they're the ones that say, no, it can't be all these ways. There's only one way. So we have to, before we can lay the foundation of UFO is the right way. We've got a knockout Christianity. And so clearly, you know, he's got an agenda, a personal one, because you know, it's what his childhood looked like. But, um, he's just trying to, you know, push Christianity out of the way. Push Christianity out of the way to try to reframe the groundwork of this new religion. That's going to change the world. Uh, a couple other thoughts just to throw out as a mom, it really bothered me that he says, you know, he's obsessed with something. He's got this burning question and instead of addressing it, she's like, just let it go.

1:58:06 Let it go. Get on with it. As a parent, that's a huge problem. If you're going to ignore what your children are into. What you're curious in, what they're burning, does that you like the questions in their head? You're not going to have a relationship with them. Of course they're going to look elsewhere and yeah, they're not going to accept your faith. They're not going to accept anything you have to share with them because you're being completely disrespectful to that child. I mean, he's, he's looks like he's almost an adult. She should have a little more respect for her, you know, growing son. The other thing is, um, it talks about the mom and the dad having completely different faiths, right? The mom goes to church. The dad doesn't. That just goes to show like the Bible says not to be unequally yoked. And I don't think that's because God is, you know, rude or wants to disclude people of other faiths. I think it's because he knows the harm.

1:58:57 When you have a divided family, you're going to have children that are going to see that divide and they're going to say, oh, okay. So, you know, this religion that my mom's giving me, that might not be the way because dad doesn't believe it. It's just this huge, you know, divide. It's this huge, you know, doubt that rolls in. So it's no wonder that he feels this way and that he feels he has to push this. But from this side of things and knowing that teenagers are going to flock to movies like this, they're going to side with that teenager in the movie and be like, yeah, you know, forget religion. It's just, it breaks my heart. I don't like seeing it. Yeah. It's a straw man is what it is because they just are propping up. Here's the Christian. You know, the mom is introduced with, let's all, let us pray with one another.

1:59:45 And, you know, and like you said, from a parent point of view, yeah. When my kids, I know they're going to grow up and they're going to start asking questions. They're going to genuinely want to know these things because that's how God created us to be inquisitive and to look for answers. So as a parent, I mean, especially just think about what he said. He was like, yeah, you would never believe what we saw last night. And he's like reviewing the footage. It tried to kill so-and-so. But if like my son was telling me that he was involved in, I'd be like, this is textbook demonic stuff. Son, this is a perfect opportunity to share it with you. What I believe. And you know what? I'm not going to sit here and just preach at you off the top of my head. Let's break out the Bible and let's see what the Bible has to say about this. Let's look and see where demonic spirits have harmed people or have had them commit suicide.

2:00:33 You know, the list goes on and on. It really, it is a moment to share your faith. And maybe, I mean, unfortunately, if this is based off of Tom's own upbringing, maybe that's kind of how his mother or father treated him when he had these kinds of questions. And that's a shame because it's let this be a warning to us that we need to be open to discussing this thing, to have answers, to consider what other people are saying and to be involved in the discussion. Yeah. And I think that's a really important part of the dialogue. Because ultimately, what are we out to do? We're out to labor and we're out to win souls for Christ. And, you know, we're not going to do it by shutting down the conversations by saying, nope, like, we're just, we don't talk about this. It's like, well, why not?

2:01:22 If it's an issue of the day, you talk about it. I mean, all of the apostles, they set forth that example where they talked about the issues of the day. And when they had disagreements, they met with each other and said, hey, what, can we open up the scriptures and figure out what's going on? Because we need to have answers. We need to have answers for this sort of a thing. But I will just conclude with saying what came to my mind right away was just the first psalm and the first verse of the first psalm, which is, Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. And what we saw there was just pure scorn. I mean, any time you see people mocking and belittling Jesus. And saying, oh, he's just a guy in a toga and Birkenstocks or whatever and laughing him off like that. It's just it's it hurts because it's just have you really ever read the accounts of Jesus Christ?

2:02:19 I'll be honest. I was in I was in a bit of that position, not where I was always mocking Jesus. But I saw comedians like this. They would make fun of Jesus. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the Christians are stupid because they believe that old book. Yeah. But then I went into the gospels for myself. And I read about it. And that's like, wait a second. This Jesus that I'm reading in the Bible is so wildly different than this goofy character that the world is portrayed. And you come to this realization that it's like this. This is a man worth following. This is someone worth worshiping. And in the end, you become like Thomas, where you're like, my Lord and my God, here he is died for me on the cross. And that's real. That's something that it's a shame that someone. That some people don't have that because they just can't move past the mockery and they can't move past just, you know, trying to take cheap shots at God.

2:03:13 It's just, you know, it's it's disheartening to see that in a film. Yeah. Because it's just it's not productive for anybody, really. Yeah. Travis, any thoughts? Yeah. This movie will clearly mask the faith that this boy has played. And it's not just about the faith that he put into scientists and their fantastical claims about the universe and what happened far beyond he had any ability to know anything at all or anyone has had any ability to know anything at all. It's it hides the fact that people put their faith in science no differently than people put their faith in God. And it's not to say that science isn't valuable, but but it's going to make it look like the mother and the family has no leg to stand on.

2:04:03 So it's a very strong belief in God. Wash it down to some picture that, you know, you said you read up, you know, a bit there. And it talked about how Tom said, I knew I learned everything there was to know about Christianity. And I would argue clearly not. It feels like his his understanding of Christian Christianity is lacking beyond this wishy washy ness of well, we just believe because it's good to believe. And then there's no reason to believe it. But we believe it like like that's kind of. Yeah. of like what how it's portrayed to many of us including myself god makes more sense for this reality so whatever i pick apart you know whatever i look for truth in god actually makes more sense to me to be the x at the beginning of the treasure map when i trace my origin and the universe's origins and this planet's origins and humanity's origins back to something so if god makes more sense to me all of your claims about what some scientists say that disagree with god's possible uh what we believe to be god's message of truth to us if the scientists are disagreeing and making their claims and god makes more sense to me i'm going to put my faith in god and not in the scientists and their fantastical claims amen yeah 100 and that's um and this i want to i'm going to key off what matthew said just a minute ago this is exactly where i was going with this you can see where uh the what's fascinating to me about this is not only what we're going to get into in the future which uh and very soon is the propaganda the government has asked him to put into this movie but also that he tom has put himself in this movie you can see right there that he said his mother was religious his father was not what's what we see right here is that his mother this guy's mother is religious and his father was not the logic he's mentioned the logical uh assumptions of his father or whatever or dad his deceased father for this movie and so it tells me that um this main character is tom and so we can kind of glean a lot about what's going on here because he's put himself in the movie and uh for that reason suddenly in the next scene we get into our prayers to the dead there we go yeah dallas yeah i'm sorry dude but do you really think we can contact your dad well if we do then i know he's actually dead come on guys we just did this ghost contact people all the time with messages maybe we have to get personal you think he's hiding in the dark if you're here let me know straight up praying dallas yeah dad just give me a sign maybe we should go skating or something let's get out of here dude so then he goes and he actually they do if i actually find something uh and uh they go into that a little further um but we're we're gonna pause it right there for a second and and just talk about this because this is a great talking point um the bible clearly says the dead know nothing that's ecclesiastes and nine five and and you and it's it's all over the bible i mean that you can find maybe one or two verses that are a little confusing but it's clear as day that the bible says don't talk to the dead that's not what we want you to do because there are deceivers just like adding that would you consider confusing so please just the more than um i kind of want to see one family to just sit on and have a tea that i'm then if you know if it's possible and all right yeah we're gonna get to the technical side if we can we just take this personal thing from the chad what would you consider confusing what would you consider confusing his trees that he knows miss carl so if he knows what does not work we will come and stems from the ch Flame of power it is what it just these multiple fames the rest of those you consider confusing what's a verse you consider confusing oh i don't keep those in my memory let me see if i can find them i know that there's one where oh let's talk about um um the witch of endor for a second that's like the yeah that seems to be the one because i was going to say i don't think there's very many verses that trip uh people up other than the witch of endor which is like you could just it's so easy to lay this out it's not confusing to me because it's a witch practicing witchcraft offering to communicate with the dead for saul saul knows he is in transgression against the lord it says in chronicles that he was killed for his transgression

2:08:36 against the lord because he went and he spoke against he spoke to this demonic spirit with this woman the bible is specific it says it appeared to be samuel it's like i don't know people are confused about that because someone who i think has an agenda has introduced the story to them by saying no it's just the ghost of samuel it's just samuel coming back and saying hi that's what's going on here when they just ignore all of the context surrounding what is happening so there's a lot of things i do think in the by yes there are some passages that might confuse the whole thing with the witch of endor the fact that that's causing any confusion it's very it's distressing to me actually because it's just it's like you're Preston input but i hope you're correct and let's talk about duк through 000. 16. 25. 25. 30. 35. 36. 37. 38. 49. your angry notes. There is absolutely no instance where we should speak to dead. And if we are speaking to the dead instead of speaking to our God, that's called idolatry, because you're going to something for help that you believe has transcended reality for your help. And number one, you're in trouble because that thing might appear to you, and then whatever that is that was that God said not to do might give you information that's wrong or might be allowed to do stuff to your life now that you've given over yourself to listen to whatever it says.

2:10:33 I had a person once that went to a seance, and they said they gave me a timeline that I was going to be alive. And I thought, that's not good. Maybe they wouldn't have had the ability to give that timeline or the ability to go to God and say, hey, she's on my property. Why don't I just get her? Why don't I get her? Why don't I get her? Why don't I get her? Why don't I get her? give her a timeline and now she's forever scared until she hits whatever age it was that she's going to die at that certain age and it might happen just because they're allowed now that you've come on to their territory don't do it people it's it's a it's it's bad bad news so my rant over well talking to the dead is also uh definition uh necromancy do you want to be a necromancer anybody i don't think so so don't be praying to the dead it's you could be like the other guy in this clip uh the other guy in this clip just randomly so very randomly uh chimes in and says hey man you guys want to go skating like like like mid try to contact the dead this guy gets a hankering for skating but i mean i think that's a much better alternative to trying to pray to the dead um and and really like this this is weaving together so much uh this movie clearly showing what tom delong is all about what he's trying what he's excited to maybe feed you and and have you sink your teeth into um and and contacting the dead seems like it's right in that wheelhouse of of all of it but yeah i i gotta kick out of the guy just hey let's go skating you know i think it's just a i just want to leave i guess so oh yeah well that's the thing because it is an unnatural even amongst non-believers so that's something that uh i think i could testify to when i was a non-believer and you know growing up as a teenager if anyone wanted to do some creepy weird ouija board stuff for like hey you know like i heard a ghost story about if we like chant in the mirror and all that stuff the majority of everyone there is just like nah let's not do that that's it sounds kind of stupid there is an instinct i believe within us god has put it in us to be repulsed by it on a very basic level it's like if you were to open up your garage door and there's a snake in there you're like oh i'm not going anywhere near that i don't i'm messing with the snake it's the same thing it's like uh someone starts trying to do these weird occult practices around you and they have an interest in it and even if you're not like i said you could be have like a secular worldview it's just like it's creeping me out not gonna want to do that it's the same thing it's like when people see um in the secular world this is funny because of my own my own father he's not a religious guy at all but i've heard him before talking to um where you know he's been watching tv shows wherever i'm like oh you're still watching that show or whatever no i had to stop watching it i'm like why why'd you stop watching it it just got a little too satanic and it was weird and there were demons in it i'm like dad that stuff isn't real why can't you just watch it and just be entertained by it ah i just don't like looking at it i just don't don't like seeing it like this is something at work in you you know like there's a reason why you're you're upset by it it's because it's it is unnatural and it's not right at the beginning of the clip the guy just leads out he's like come on man people talk to the spirits or the dead all the time you know it's like this fun invitation like i i mean he knows so much seemingly that is actual and he's sharing it and inviting and telling you what is actual and what is an actual already throughout these clips uh and what what a terrible way to invite somebody to do something uh we believe so destructive just hey everybody's doing it you know how's everybody doing it you know how's everybody doing it you know when has that gone wrong yeah well it's it's no surprise too because again looking at secret machines and uh the guy who he co-wrote the non-fiction with peter lavinda he's a nicole expert what are they great at i mean that's what they do they speak with the dead to get information so again no wonder he's throwing this in there um i have a little plug because matthew and i are kind of working on the show for thursday already and it's gonna be along these lines like specifically because it's going to be looking at near-death experiences

2:14:55 and from a christian perspective what's really going on so i'm kind of like holding back all this scripture i have to share i've been collecting it all day i'm like do i spill it now no we'll we'll save it for thursday because we could go on forever about the state of the dead there's so much in the bible about it it's not something that you want to be on the fence with in your beliefs you really got to know for certain the state of the dead and why because this deception is going to ramp up quickly yeah this is heavily connected to the ufo topic uap topic and if you think these things are going to ramp up which we do too this stuff talking to the dead or a dead appearing to you will ramp up regardless of if you call it in or not absolutely it will happen and so it's like it's a hallmark right like god can raise the dead so it's like an order to convince them that i am god wow divine powers i'm gonna raise the dead it's like he has to do it that's an excellent point matthew wow i didn't put those two things together that's a hundred percent hundred percent um and if you guys i mean let me explain how how dedicated you guys are matthew and wendy are doing this on is isn't that thanksgiving that you're doing this on what day is no no oh is that away from thanksgiving okay all right well you're not as dedicated as i thought but no that's good it's gonna be a really good show and i i appreciate you guys if you guys want to be involved and all the audience if you want to be involved go to patreon.com slash strange normal and join the private discord i mean we're going to be doing this all the time and we put our show notes in there and we we talk about this stuff there's more stuff in there than we can even talk about on the show you want to be a part of it you want to support you want to be a part of this whole thing because the only we can't do this without you you ever heard that um that old when i was growing up in nashville tennessee we had this channel 8 it was the w w i forget what it was but it was the old broadcasting network they just say funding and support for this broadcast is made possible by viewers like you well that's this so appreciate everyone who has donated and is on patreon back to your regularly regularly scheduled program let's get into this next clip this is where it gets really crazy because they start spewing out the propaganda the knowledgeable government guy comes out of the weeds starts telling him stuff about what the government is actually doing check this out ufo technology to play with your perception it's a parlor trick it's a semi-supernatural a hologram of fire burning bush okay how about this a burning bush that can talk huh oh i think doesn't it this is going to alter and shatter any idea you have about reality and that's true now let's go on and see what else this guy says we'll talk about that burning bush thing in just a second for centuries man has told the story of god how god created the universe and the universe was a well-ordered place with man at the center the man began to ponder thinking about a spiritual world the world you can't see but filled with angels and demons a story told within all the religions combined then came the 1940s and things began to merge we discovered a new life form not human not spirit but very very advanced we didn't know whether or not they were good or evil primarily because they wouldn't talk to us at least not directly but lately they've been showing themselves more frequently and i i think your father saw them up close and personal on the night that he disappeared so then like what planet are they coming from well i think they're going to be a little bit more complex than that you ever wonder why the world is such a mess why one part of the world is democratic believes in free will the other part authoritarian a loss of individuality it's competing races and the influence that they have on mankind so from the depths of the ocean to the far reaches of any mountain range right to hell up to the the dark side of the moon they've always been there and throughout millennia they would pop up every couple of hundred years and they would teach us something important about mathematics or language or science but we hear these voices in our head we get these ideas an epiphany you see they have been teaching us and advancing us all this time okay there is a lot to talk about in that clip oh my

2:19:59 goodness so let me get me break down what he just said here because i've already outlined it because this was an important one uh the more knowledgeable government official guy that uh went uh rogue i guess uh what he said is that uh he is saying that they have been here a long time they're not necessarily extraterrestrial okay um that's that's true so far and they pop up every few years to give us technology okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay and uh the we received ideas and new things from these aliens or whatever they are in hi i guess as the government has been calling them lately that's fascinating and he called them the burning bush things that aren't human but they are not spiritual i i think that's a little bit interesting what do you guys think about that yeah i think that they might have only given an eight oh boy so i think that they would have done something better with the smarts on him any thoughts yeah this is basically he he takes all these you know miraculous things in the bible and he says this wasn't god this is aliens and this is aliens and this is aliens he basically says that there's different races of aliens that have different agendas for us and so that's why they have the good and the bad and they give us knowledge sometimes or they try to thwart our knowledge you know based on the different races and what their agenda is i mean we kind of see that with the good angels and the bad angels it's somewhat true right there is a extraterrestrial beings known as alien or angels sorry they don't they're not from our planet and they're here to help us but they're definitely spiritual to say that they're not spiritual that's a huge deception um but man again it's it's just his same plot line over and over and and he's taking all the things that christians are familiar with to say maybe you've just seen it wrong all this time that book's a little old let's show you like from the origin where all these things are happening and since it's happening in all these different religions from the beginning of creation it can't be that your one viewpoint is right it must be a combination of all these things and that's i mean that is in some the non-fiction book by peter levenda all religions basically share the same you know of the same stories that they are they're the same story played out through different viewpoints and that they've all been fed to us or given to us through aliens throughout the time and as christians again we know that's not true i have just one scripture i want to read because ecumenicalism that's all i want to say yeah exactly it's just angering me though uh so it says first corinthians 2 13 uh is talking about the knowledge of man versus the knowledge of god says these things we also speak not in words which man wisdoms teaches but which the holy spirit teaches comparing spiritual things with spiritual but the natural man does not receive the things of the spirit of god but they are foolishness to him nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned when we look at things through the viewpoint of just mankind and what's going on on the earth and we completely ignore god we're going to find all types of answers if we're not willing to accept the truth of the bible we're going to grasp out whatever we can to make it fit so that's what he's done it's angering yeah i uh i see this attempt to explain away what is truth to explain away jesus to explain away the bible to explain away uh this book of you know guidance for knowledge for truth and and you know it meshes completely with uh a bunch of stories that are being told right now uh to to a wide variety of audiences a much larger audience saw the movie the eternals which is a marvel movie of heroes that essentially they it explains these aliens being superhero pretty much got stuck on this planet

2:24:42 and and then they show up every now and again when they're needed and every time they did they would they showed like a little montage that they continually thought that they were gods so they they made the egyptian gods because they interfered and they saw them do something and they said oh they made the christian god you know they they made the you know it all stems out of the times these eternals these alien beings have done stuff so it's this explaining away it's exactly that history channel you know well a pillar of fire what does that sound like of course it's a laser beam from a starship you know it's like this is this is what they this is the direction they want you to go and and it just it just seems like priming i mean it and we believe it is it's priming you for something that you're going to see possibly very possibly that is going to be something you've never seen before and then and then they're going to say hey this is new this is something you're uncomfortable witnessing now let it be an explanation that makes you completely turn away from what you previously believed to be true and if that's jesus i we all believe that would be a terribly bad decision to make wow i have a few more clips here matthew any any thoughts before i i conclude with a few more clips just so that the the process was interesting i'll sum it up real quick basically the first thing you do is you mock christians you show the whole scene christian is off their rocker doesn't have it then a little further on into the movie you have this guy who is the revealing truth and you know he's got the truth because he's got a whole wall with pictures on it and all this thread like a serial killer exactly that's the guy i'm gonna listen to all right mom get away from me with that bible i'm going into this crazy man's house and i'm gonna stare at this wall full of occult symbolism he's got the answer but that's the guy you know he's got he has the answers for the plot of the movie and you just notice it what's the example he gives he gives the example of the burning bush it's not like he's going into any of the other religions you know he'd go into uh you talk about the hindu religions where they talk about having wars uh the gods had wars and they talk about these big weapons of mass destruction that fits way more in with the ufo narrative than a burning bush that talks what do you mean but he's just gonna throw that out there again to try to undermine christianity because that's the end goal is to is to attack those who maybe are not that strong in their faith and they watch this or they're being raised in a christian household and they watch this and suddenly it's just you it there really is and uh this is unfortunately we're working with an intelligent enemy uh but at the same time you know we're on the side of the almighty god so let's pray that he uh he helps people especially those who have watched this and maybe you don't have that strong of faith i could easily see something like this completely just as a teenager or a young person if you haven't been really seriously challenged on your beliefs you watch something like this you're definitely gonna be you're definitely gonna be coming out with a skeptic and not a skeptic of uap a skeptic of the bible that's what's gonna happen right 100 i i just have even more questions so i mean like why the aliens why do they exist you know it's like it it doesn't really give me a satisfactory answer unless they're god you know right like i mean unless they're eternal beings he creates it's like i guess it just creates more questions but yeah you're right he stands in front of a wall and actually presents it like all the answers are here yeah fascinating i'm gonna play the next few clips uh in in in order because we are way over and i know wendy's gonna be mad at me if uh if i go any longer so um i apologize to anybody who's like what are we doing because this is unusual we're doing a long episode tonight and i've i always ask wendy to come into long episodes because i know she had she likes the short ones so so watch this next few clips i'm gonna click through them here we go what do you think he's waiting for you out there i'm gonna click through them here we go i'm gonna click through them here we go there enlightenment peaceful contact what if you find what you're looking for dallas and it's bad news what then according to dr walker they may not all be bad possibly but they are gods dallas and they can crush us in an instant oh they are only good if it serves their interest walker is leading you into disaster so they're gods that only uh serve their

2:29:25 own interest interesting okay let's move on these are adversaries we know very little about jim you and i both know they're more powerful and we can't win we have to use the weapons we have free will morality consciousness oh jesus jim we've been fighting this for 70 years and nothing's coming okay all possibilities are okay so this is all this is where it um really gets interesting because he uh this is his appeal at the end of the movie he's uh he's asking everybody to um to to to come together as one and just listen spoiler alert brad yeah here we go watch this abilities are layered within different waves of energy and our mind is the only thing that can make them real so if everything is happening right on top of each other forces of nature can cause them to bleed into one another sometimes that's a good thing sometimes it's not and sometimes machines are even used to interfere with us and that's not good at all but if you could calm your mind choose love over hate you will connect to the right frequency because if we don't if we tune into darkness and give into fear someone else will create a reality here that suits them and not us so it really doesn't matter if we call ourselves christian muslim atheists or just dreamers that boxes you in and misses the point entirely okay so religion boxes you in and for finally i know everyone wants to say something about that hold it hold it hold it here we go here we go this is the last clip that they're talking about here and they leave it like this is the end of the movie this is the last last thing that the smart guy says the story you seek story it's right there in front of your eyes hiding in plain sight a story told within all the world's religions combined ufos are the answer to all the world's religions combined come monsters of california what a dislike what a title too what did that have to do with any of that monsters of california and if you watch the first scene you'd think they're gonna go uh hunting bigfoots or like you know like you know like you know like you know like something that was in there turns out to be this whole thing oh bigfoot's in this movie too yeah he peed on someone of course wow yeah well the thing that i wanted to take note of is the fear did you see how it was capitalized on fear they're going to label us as afraid even though we know that this is a satanic deception and we're going to call it out like that and it's important that's why it's important for us to have very level heads to have a sound mind and have soberness when we talk about this stuff because we need to be able to look people dead in the eyes and say this is satan and his fallen angels i'm not giving them my worship jesus is coming soon i am not afraid of them i have zero fear in them you know why because i have perfect love from god from jesus christ who died on the cross to save my soul and that has driven out all of the fear that i could possibly have and now all i have is fear and i'm not afraid of them i have is this love for you and i don't want you to be deceived because there was another instance and uh i can't like talk about this directly but a couple years back there was a big thing that happened and they were mandating things to happen and saying that everybody should get this thing there was one personality one pundit his name is uh keith oberman he's not we need to go to rumble no no no no no i i won't drop any of the uh the youtube bad words that will get us uh slapped on the wrist because we can't speak about something that actually happened uh and what what this guy did was he said you're not getting the thing that we're telling to get you because you're more informed you're not doing it because you're making a stand you're doing it because you're afraid you're a coward and you're just afraid and he was foaming at the mouth and spitting and doing that i mean the video is just so nasty of this guy and it's like yeah that's gonna that'll sway me right

2:34:10 start doing that and that'll convince me that you have my best interests at heart but it's that spirit that was inhabiting him that is gonna make a reappearance i think very soon when we start seeing these types of manifestations come and have direct communication with humanity and we're the one saying no i'm not doing it i don't want anything to do with it i'm not gonna go along with it i don't care if the government puts me in a situation where i'm not going to do anything with it it's just annoying is that how does Wrath react to bad comments everyone gets angry at me in my comment section too are you there anymore well let me just go sit down why are you on hi jeez the rest of us have a meeting Keith you now good afternoon thanks for being there okay well we're gonna wait a little bit more fit because sometimes i do read a lot of inaudible Noающ tried not to use the享ester um nice to meet you again yeah i just wanted to let you know thank you so much thank you all so much hey's got the game doing i'm just gonna shut the function down for a minute dude my name's Marka Rex 골 she's gonna join the crafters see you in just a sec Bye hey guys just the fear thing really bothers me when they say you're afraid it's like i'm not afraid so what the the whole like phobia thing i don't know i could go on a little bit of a rant about it but you know they label things like oh you don't like um all of the the like gay stuff the lgbt stuff being pushed on your kids you're a homophobe so i'm not afraid where is phobia come into the come into the picture there's no fear it's just uh i have this understanding and that's where i'm making these decisions from that's where i'm coming from not from a place of fear that's all i just wanted to get that out of the way some key words interesting i feel like so many people look at fear as such a weakness right but as christians we're supposed to have fear for god and our fear and reverence respect for god is what makes us stay away from these things he tells us they're bad and he has our best interest at heart he loves us he loves us he loves us he loves us he loves us he loves us he loves us he loves us he loves us He wants to protect us.

2:36:04 And so we do it out of love and respect. Yeah, not out of fear. It's just crazy. But also, that's how they say, like, at the end there, we're all coming together for love and all these things. Like, don't do these things that have hate. Just focus on love. But knock out Christianity along the way. Like, what? Love and Christianity is anonymous. There's no other religion. Go ahead. Do you know what I hear in addition to that? Love is I also hear be a good neighbor because Jesus said to love your neighbor. So it's like they play on this card where it's like, hey, I know enough about the Bible to quote this at you. And it's like, you don't even understand. Jesus is like summarizing the Ten Commandments there. What's the very first thing he says? And then what's the second thing he says? If you're not loving God, like you said, if you're not being respectful, fearful of God and loving him first, what hope do I have of loving you as my neighbor?

2:37:02 Even if I do something that appears loving and society says what I'm doing is loving, is it love in accordance to God's will? If it's not, then it's not really love. Right. Yeah. The other religions want to. Go ahead. Go ahead, Travis. Well, he pushed in there in that beautiful stare at the sky moment of truth he was having at the end of the movie. He talked about frequency. If you tap into the correct frequency. New Age spiritual stuff, you will see in the dark corners of the Internet where people are pushing you towards elevating your consciousness to become a Christ consciousness that Jesus wasn't anybody specific and special. You can be Christ. You are God. And it's all about just consciousness frequency sort of thing. And it's pushing you that direction. But literally, he's telling you, don't believe Christianity. Don't believe Muslim. Don't believe this.

2:38:01 Don't box yourself in. But box yourself into this love, frequency, Christ consciousness stuff, right? But that's not a box, because we say it's not a box, all right? Yeah, it's beautiful and wonderful and loving. Yeah, but literally, the Bible puts forth, there's a God who wants you to know, wants you to know what is happening. And more than anything, I am convinced God wants you to know his character and his character is love. Love only exists to explain God and the most beautiful way we can act in this reality. And this movie is trying to tell you love is this thing, this openness, frequency, Christ consciousness, elevating self, self, selfish. Love is anything but selfish. And if you look in the pages of the Bible, you're going to see an unselfish, other-centered, beautiful picture of God that will win over your heart because it is God.

2:39:02 That you find in the pages of the Bible. And it is love in the most beautiful sense that you will find in the pages of the Bible. And when somebody else is trying to steal love from God, the author of love, love itself, and package it to you in this form so that you can buy it hook, line, and sinker, you're getting a lesser version. You're getting an untrue version and you're being led towards something ultimately destructive. But love is beautiful. And love is what... What draws you in. Jesus died on a cross not because he wanted torture, not because he wanted you to see all the pain. You come to know this as a loving act. The ultimate loving act. The apex of God's display of love for us sinners. For us who have experienced guilt and shame and all of it. And when I hear people ride love home to hammer down their deception, I just really want to urge people...

2:40:02 To seek where love actually is found in the heart of God, in Jesus, and in very much moving today, God is not done, we're still in the Bible, like people like to say, back in Bible time, we're still in Bible time, it hasn't finished yet, he hasn't come in the sky yet to come and get people. So, seek out love in the right spot, seek it out in the Bible, seek it out with Jesus. 100%. Yeah. You nailed it. Well said, Travis. Yeah. I also want to say, I mean, like, have a good time. Like, how interesting, they're claiming to have this love and all these answers and the questions to life, but what was one of the first things that Brad showed us, that concert, Tom DeLonge's like, hey, you might have family, you might have friends, but don't you feel empty? Like, wait, I thought you had love. I thought you had the answers. Why do you feel so empty? Oh, right. It's because you're rejecting the one thing that brings you fulfillment. You're rejecting God. And that, I mean, it goes to show. I mean, that's the root of his life is, is what, he's still empty, he's still hopeless.

2:41:06 I had something I wanted to share, but I'm curious if that was your last clip, Brad. That is. That is, okay, so. I try not to mention that, though, because. That's the rule. The faux pas of YouTube, because everyone leaves after that. So, I have to conclude quickly. Just show the pictures of Tom DeLonge that I sent you in your, in your DM. That would be a good conclusion. We can keep people, hang on for those images. Is he in a bib? No, I didn't get his bib shot. I just got a bunch of him performing. And I mean, it's just like, basically the, the square and compass is part of his brand at this point. I mean, it's like he puts it all over himself and his guitars. It's just, it's gotta, it's gotta be weird for, yeah.

2:41:53 It's check your direct messages. All right. I mean, I'll get my DM. I'll try, I'll try to put, I'll put that in here, here, but yeah, go ahead, Wendy. So are we completely. You've sidetracked what's your, what's your comment and I'll put this in. Yeah. So, um, and I would say a couple of years ago when my husband and I first moved down back to Indiana, um, we stayed for a while with my nephew and his family. My nephew was 16, 17, and we try to have him Bible studies with him. And he was just honest and he'd say, you know, um, I'm just not that interested. And we'd be like, why? And he's like, people my age just aren't interested in the Bible. And man hit me like straight in the heart, you know, like that hurts. You gotta be interested in this stuff, but goes to show again, like the youth, if they are not grounded in the word, which sad to say, there's not a lot of youth today that are the media, the, all of the internet, all the distractions that the youth have today.

2:42:55 We didn't, those of us here, we didn't grow up with all the distractions that they have these days. And. Satan is just pulling the youth like never before. And no wonder, right? Like Travis brought it up that he's targeting the youth. Well, the Pope is doing the same thing. He's going around and having all these youth rallies, rallies, sorry. And he's saying how they're the ones that need to, um, be brought into this truth that the Pope is trying to spread. And it just goes to show, um, this agenda is really targeting and those of us that have. Youth in our lives. I mean, even if we don't, we really need to keep them in prayer because they're the ones that are going to be really sucked into this. I just pulled up a statistic cause I was curious. And it says of all us teenagers, only about one in four read the sacred scriptures of their religious tradition weekly or more often.

2:43:54 So it's like once a week. And that's what you've been talking about the Bible. That's just sacred scriptures of their upbringing. Yeah. So there's this like youth idea of leaving your family tradition, leaving your family religion behind and finding something new and it's scary because what does all, all of this media has pushed you towards every single story starts out this way. It's like, well, Travis mentioned the hero's journey. That's part of the hero's journey, which by the way, the guy who came up with that model of the hero's journey, he didn't, I mean, he didn't necessarily say write stories this way, but it was a pattern that he noticed. And there, his name was John Campbell. John Campbell hates God, has called Yahweh an unfair trickster God and said that he's evil. So this guy who's acknowledged this model and puts it forth, part of it is that disillusionment because you take someone from a, a beginning point where they have this knowledge and this understanding of how they're going to live. But then an event happens that shatters their reality and they have to learn new things and abandon.

2:44:59 The old, and it's a part of the process of them growing up and attaining to something more meaningful and they're going to, they're going to get a higher purpose. And yeah, unfortunately I think so many people just, they're going to fall, they fall into this trap where they see, well, my parents brought me up with this, so that's it. I'm going to disregard it. And as far as young people too, I'm actually the oldest sibling, but I got a younger brother and I felt very called when I first came to Christ. I'm not very close with my brother. Just like that. For full disclosure, but I messaged him and I was just like, Hey, how you doing, man? You know, I've come to an understanding about this and I just, I feel really called to share this stuff with you and I want you to see it. And I let him know, I mean, some of the discernment material that I had to show him the media that is consumed widely, how that's satanic.

2:45:50 I also just showed him some things from scriptures and be like, look, this is what is spoken of in prophecy and this is how it's playing out. And not only that, but look at that way that Jesus is laid for us. And all of that. And at the end of all of that communication, he didn't communicate back. Really. I mean, I was just like telling him, you know, he's just like a quiet guy. So he's nodding along and I'm just like, well, what do you think? Yeah. That stuff is all really cool, Matt, but it just doesn't vibe with me. Oh yeah. Do you have a Mike? Do you have anything to say about it? No. Just doesn't vibe with me. Okay. Doesn't vibe, dude. Uh, by, I guess like, what, what kind of an answer is that? It's just, I w it really frustrated me, but you know, and then I see him and he's just like, got all these like shirts on and it's from these rappers who are like just demonic rappers.

2:46:44 It's like skulls and faces being melted off and demon horns. I'm like, I don't even bring it up. I'm just like, look at it. And I was just like, tell my wife, I'm like, oh, there you go. I know this guy. I know his whole, uh, thing and his whole motif is about Satanism. And it's like, my brother's walking around. He's walking around with his logos and it's just like totally cool with it. I don't get it. I mean, the, the younger generation in some ways I've been really impressed by, I went to a wedding for a young couple that were, they're both 18. They got married. It was beautiful. I mean, they're like two Bible believing Christians. It was awesome. I I'm so happy for them really, but they are the exception. There are few and far between. Uh, and it's just the majority want to live this hedonistic lifestyle and they want to just forge their own path. And they want to, you know, they want to, you know, they want to, you know, they want to embrace a lot of this stuff that I think older generations would have just been like, what are you doing?

2:47:37 This is way out there. Yeah. I, I, I think it's, it's deception. I, I, I, I have never met a person that's like, Hey, you want to go be evil? Um, just because they want to be evil. It's, it's all, they, they think that this is absolutely, um, the right method because of things like this. You produce videos, you produce music. You produce music that drive home and drive that direction towards the youth and you grow up a child in its ways and it won't leave from it. And I, I, I, you grow up, I mean, let me quote the Bible correctly. Um, train up a child, uh, the way he should go. There we go. And he should not leave from it. So, so I think it's interesting, right? I think that that's, that's, that's what's happening here. And I also have wayward family and, you know, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's heartbreaking because, you know, and you, you saw it, but you know, it was down a path.

2:48:34 You didn't see everything. And all of a sudden, boom, it's so hard to, um, get back. And so it's hard to stay composed with your family too. I mean, I've done a good job of it, obviously. Like I haven't gone off on any of my family members, but it gets to a point where it's just like, they get so dismissive and it's like, do you not like, I'll listen to you talk about whatever you want to talk about. Really? I will. This is important to me. I know it's Christian. So it's like lame to talk about or whatever, but like, hear me out. Do you think, like I've, I've told him before, do you think I'm a stupid person? Have you ever known me to, to be a dumb guy? No. Right. Okay. So why do I believe this? Why do I feel so strongly about this? Can I tell you why? Can I share with you why? And it's just, it gets very frustrating when you're met with that type of resistance. Yeah. I just, what can you do at a certain point, what can you do?

2:49:32 Well, I would venture to say that we all have family members that are that way. You know, we all have people that have rejected our faith and you try to share with them and they don't receive it. But I think that's the point. I think God gives each family, you know, light and, and that's our job and our job isn't easy. Um, I've been really, really, uh, encouraged by Robert, Roger Morneau. His book is, uh, there's a bunch of them, but it's like the power of prayer. And then there's like even greater power of prayer and there's more stories of prayer. And, um, one of the things that he stresses in all of his books is that he has a perpetual prayer list. And so it's all these names of people that he's met along his life that he prays for. And sometimes it's years that he prays for somebody, but it's every day. He just lifts that person up to God.

2:50:22 And, um, his book is amazing. You know, he's sharing it from the end of his life and how he's seen. Uh, all these people come to the Lord that he's prayed for, for all these years. And, you know, I feel like, yeah, it's disheartening. It's really hard to see family members reject Christ and not even have interest in it. I'm I hear you, Matt, like I'm in that boat and it breaks my heart and I keep just running back to God and like, God, I can't do it, but I know you can. So I'm just going to keep praying and like, keep praying. Don't ever give up on praying for them because God works in mysterious ways. I know, you know, that I'm hopefully. I'm saying this for the audience, but he can do those things that we can't do. The Holy spirit has ways of drawing people out of the darkest places. And the biggest thing I think that empowers the Holy spirit to move in people's lives is our prayer.

2:51:13 Like we're called to pray for people for that very reason. That's our way of partnering with God and the beautiful work of salvation is through prayer. And so, you know, we've got a great work to do even for our family, continuing to uplift them when it seems. Hopeless and they'll, I don't know, you know, they're in God's hands. So they're in good hands when we pray for them. God is aware of everybody on the planet and their current state of belief or disbelief. And he loves his posture of love is towards everybody on the planet, wanting everybody to be saved. And you have an advocate. You know, we, we have an advocate. We have somebody. Who is witnessing to people's hearts, whether you are or not, who's sharing ideas with people, whether you are or not. And are they going to be receptive to it?

2:52:08 We're all free. We're we're all free. But just as you said, prayer is prayer is a tool. People like to make fun of prayer. Just as many people in the chat have brought up that Christianity can be made fun of a lot, um, in, in, in the world. Uh, man, my goodness, thoughts and prayers, right? That's become a joke. Um, but my good, you're, you're, you're praying. To the almighty God and petitioning him to help in specific ways, uh, in this unselfish act of giving your time to request these things of almighty gods and, and, and essentially give him a, uh, an end is to answer your prayer and, and, and, and essentially sometimes all prayer for angels that pray for angels in disguise to witness to people who I am hurting to see their disbelief. Uh, I would love miraculous things to change people's hearts. But I'll say as the world gets crazier, as people go further into the world, further into that prodigal son moment of, uh, they find themselves at a pig slop and you find yourself at a pig slop and you have to come to grips with this situation, whether you're going to keep going with the pig slop, or maybe there is a God that I've heard about a God that my brother loves a God that I, that I just, yeah, maybe this God does exist.

2:53:26 Maybe this God does love me. And. Holy. Hopefully for many of these people, they get, they remember this simple story, but yet complex story that they can come back to the father and the father is waiting with open arms and, uh, and, and we want those people to find their pig slop before they get to a truly dark and, and, and maybe a place they feel like they can't get out of. But, uh, sometimes people, uh, in their freedom are going through this life and they're making their decisions and, uh, they have to hit a pretty messed up place before they decide. They decide to go one way or the other. Uh, and we're all praying for and rooting for people to come to God and come to Jesus. Amen. Amen. Well, the radio station is going to kick us off air pretty soon. So I have to, uh, skedaddle, but I did want to show these, uh, images before we jet of, uh, what's going on.

2:54:23 What is this, Matthew? These, uh, this is the square and. compass of freemasonry and you can just see it's something that's very prevalent and like i said it's pretty much a part of his brand that was his like love so that okay this is like an older photo of him and those are the frets of his guitar and normally you have like these dots that annotate you can quickly look at it and say okay that's my third fifth seventh so on fret his are uh square and compasses and uh you know he puts it on his guitar a lot i see it right there on the bridge beneath the pickups constantly and you know you can go on there's a few i wish i wish i could pull up the other ones but they're web p and i and my my system doesn't let me to do that yeah so but no okay it's it's just the same image of it's just more of the same yeah it's but with different guitars and different outfits and it's kind of him through the ages you can see there's like a certain point he gets indoctrinated into this thing and all the way through up to yeah like younger guy and then this one right here he's wearing the love which that's associated with angels and airwaves like that's the most recent thing he's still totally into it and using it it's like yeah i don't know a charm or whatever like he just thinks uh so yeah i mean knowing this and seeing that he's putting it out in the public everything we've seen from tom to long tonight we got to take it with not a pinch of salt but a heaping block of salt because you do not trust people who wear the square and compass like this you do not trust people who are like jesuits it's just 101 discernment really it's some of the stuff they're going to say is true and the devil knows how to lie you lie only that little bit you just give them a fraction of a lie but you got to like wrap it in a big ball of truth and that's how you get away with it that's how you uh you fool people my wife is asking me if we're done already so i suppose we can be we gotta be done but i i did want to say i'm going to put on the video and i'm going to put on the video and i'm going to put on the patreon the full broadcast of what tom de long was saying in that broadcast that he got in trouble for because i thought that was interesting and if you want to listen to more of this and understand exactly what the government wants him to to say so we are aware of the deception that is to come uh join the patreon join the discord and you too can be a part and uh be become friends with us i mean we want to be more friendly with you and we want more people to to uh um partner with us because how else are we going to spread this message without you friends uh stick around just for a moment we're not going to do a long show uh a post show but we just want to say good night and uh while i just say good night to everyone else so friends that's you everybody else that's on this broadcast we appreciate you and we thank you for uh watching tonight join us patreon.com slash strange normal and we will see you another time my name is brad and this has been another strange strange normal pure strangest absolute normalcy strange normal we'll see you next time you're watching strange normal where the truth is the truth