0:03 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.
1:04 The mission of NASA is to find out what the objects are. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. Saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, I knew I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately?
1:59 And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God, always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky. And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere.
2:54 And then they, on the morning, they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experience, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and over 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels.
3:55 And they are not idiots looking beings. They are. They are gorgeous creatures. Did you ever witness necromancy or even something that would be popularly called channeling today took place? The man shook his head like a little bit like this. His eyes went glazed and he stayed at it for a half hour and the spirit spoke to him. The voice changed the person completely. He said, if you think that's amazing, wait, he says, until the spirits impersonate one of the spirits. One of the departed people that, you know, personally, like an uncle or a brother or sister or something that says that is unique, the spirits are exceedingly proud of this. We're now less than 16 minutes away. Barbara Betholic, Whitley Striever, both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative.
4:57 In other words, they. They were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. I was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade. And after my conversion, if you will, I felt it. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me. And I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is, that's been posing as grandma for the past year. For the past seven years in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a. To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding of ghosts. Any anything of that kind of story. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the pope is in favor of it.
6:00 Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends. Even to Martians. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke and it's repeated in the book of Acts, chapter chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens and a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use. That to manipulate people in the last days and define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. OK. And so the government has had and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this.
6:56 I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us with separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here since this is out. It's in Congress and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah. Absolutely. What's going on here? Absolutely. I saw the I saw the interview with the interview with the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye opening. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tenziniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning.
7:55 But there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. My name is Tom DeLong. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band. I'll blink when I say it. I'm a big fan of the band. I'll blink 182. I started a company called to the stars that eventually became to the Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. People start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon. The term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon than and that's part of what makes it more complex than just. Little green men in flying saucers and tin foil hats.
8:51 And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. We passed the 11 minute mark. Now T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon. And, you know, I think the most important thing is that we understand how humans are, how demons are. You know, we don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. We don't know how humans are. on our countdown there is a very very strong link between what people think demons are from the bible and other religions um and the ufo phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man period and something that feels um either jealous of or um has some kind of plan for what man uh is to be over the next 10 years i have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of jesus christ this is documented evidence mark t-minus 10 minutes and counting t-minus 10 the strategy that verner von brown taught me was that first the russians are going to be considered to be the enemy in fact when i met him in 74 they were the enemy the identified enemy then terrorists would be identified and that was soon to follow we heard a lot about terrorism then we were going to identify third world country crazies we now call them nations of concern and the next enemy was asteroids now at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it and the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens extraterrestrials that would be the final card and over and over and over during the four years that i knew him and was giving his speeches for him he would bring up that last card and remember carl the last card is the alien card we're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it he said is a lie so are there are there are there are there other religions i'm curious david um that you know of and all the the research that you've done that are more open to the idea yeah i would say there are uh you know hindus uh and buddhists uh you know tibetans or whatnot the idea of uh extraterrestrial life and things like that i think they have no problem with that and ufos uh particularly in hindu and buddhist tradition there they have ufos ufos have been flying around for thousands of years according to them they call them vimana they have whole texts about it and so that's the other thing say with the vatican too is that ufo sightings have been going on for thousands of years uh mormons as well believe in extraterrestrial life and uh i mean they are also a religion that that wouldn't have any problems with that i think a lot of you know modern day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets and the idea that we're not alone in the universe is you know a pretty standard idea now you are saying to the human race for the first time an official intelligence representative at a high level from the u.s government is saying publicly we are not alone we're definitely not alone absolutely the data points empirically that we're not alone yeah the inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint they found after interviewing myself in the subjects and other subjects that i'm not even uh cognizant on who they were they found my complaint uh urgent and credible uh for the intelligence committees do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials something i can't discuss in public setting have human beings being hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence
13:17 while i can't get into the specifics because that would reveal a certain u.s. classifying operations i was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that so let me be very clear about this you're saying that the catholic church the vatican they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet certainly i would couch it as non-human intelligence you know nhi like we would like to say in our language why do you say that why do you say nhi i don't necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain, a certain location. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? So help you God. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies, or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. Mr. Grush, why is it that you refer to the phenomenon as non-human intelligence?
14:52 Why deviate from the basis of extraterrestrial? life? I think the phenomenon is very complex and I like to leave an open mind analytically to specific origin. When you say specific origin are you referring can you elaborate on that for those if it's a traditional extraterrestrial origin or something else that we don't quite understand from either biological or astrophysics perspective yeah I just like to keep an open mind on what it could be. We're now passing the four minute 30 second mark in the countdown still go at this time. And the priest told us could I have a bit more of your time I want to do something very fascinating he says the grand plan the master's grand plan for harvesting the nations for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil so we continued you know after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested in what we're doing and we're going to do something that we're interested to know more about the activities of spirits and he said it's going to be done in a unique manner this this grand plan is going to take people people are going to eat the stuff because it says spirits demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. Good evening thank you all for joining us tonight it's going to be a fun night very interesting stuff on the table to talk about go ahead and tell me in the chat where you're from tonight we got all kinds from all over the place here Honduras Ontario Australia Pennsylvania Uruguay Kentucky fantastic.
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20:24 Tonight's episode has an eclectic a group of stuff I mean you're not going to you're not going to want to miss this this is really neat but before we get into it I'm going to bring in our guest tonight Matthew how are you I'm doing well Bradley I trust you're doing well I am I am you know this is a unique night we don't do this usually do this on a Sunday night well we have in the past but we're going to start doing this more often on Sunday night and it's left me kind of in shambles. It's Sunday night. It's Sunday night. It's Sunday night. It's Sunday night. It's Sunday night our new strange normal. I think so I think so we'll see how the live does tonight and we'll try to do it on a few different nights it's a little bit early because I'm going to try to get in on a well-known Bible answers radio show tonight and it starts at 10 p.m. Eastern and it's called Bible answers live and I'm going to try to ask the pastor on there what he thinks about this David Grutch thing and all this stuff that's happening in the news I'm kind of curious. I'm kind of curious what he's going to say so in order to record that and get in there because you got to get in there 15 minutes early if you if you want to get a spot on the live show so I'm going to record it and try to put it on here and so we're doing it a little bit early tonight but tell me if you like this maybe maybe it's better to do it early I don't know.
21:43 Yeah we're looking for feedback we've got a community poll going right now for those of us who haven't seen Thursday night's broadcast but in the community tab there's a poll running. About the background and it looks like maybe Bradley's trying out this background you know maybe we'll have another poll and see if you like this background but let us know give us feedback about our background in the comment section or in the live feed because we really we'd love to know we're already hidden 100 or already hidden three digit concurrent people what is what is the word concurrent viewers tonight so that's really good good news and maybe to make maybe weekends is best for this I don't know but. I don't want to slow the the the speed down here let's let's roll into the first topic we're talking about I want to give a great thanks to someone who contacted me asked me hey can we show your documentary Starfall to to our church and I said oh you don't even have to ask me just show it and use any graphics you want this is this is a ministry we're here to provide a service to you it's not like we have a business with a brand we are trying to get a message out. Now it's it's fascinating I want to show you some Matthew this was really cool to me this is the. Nosley church in Liverpool and they all were out there the church plant they were.
23:11 Watching the the documentary and going over some material that we have from one of the church members put it up there fantastic I don't know if she wants me to say her name some kind of scooting around that's why I'm like one of the church members. Yeah but no that's that's great I'm glad that the message is getting out and that there's a little enthusiasm behind it I like the science you know that's absolutely great job yeah and so I I really think it's a really good idea to try to get this message out and and talk about this especially when people don't want to talk about. This topic so much in front of church especially particularly pastors I don't know if anybody knows this but this is a little hidden secret. Most. Pastors if talking about a controversial topic they don't talk about it themselves they bring someone in to talk about it so if it's not taken well by the membership it's not on the shoulders of the pastor so. You can join the mob and chasing you out of town. But we believe we have the truth about what the spiritualism that's coming on to the world here very soon and already is happening and you know what. Senator.
24:23 Kristen. Gillibrand stood up in front of her some of her local crew and talked about the weird stuff that was going on and I thought we'd talk about that a little bit tonight it's a it's a it's a longer clip but I think it's worth it and so I'm going to show it real quick this was on Twitter. It's rather interesting because she believes something a little different let's let's talk about it here we go. I started meeting with pilots and pilots were very upset because they kept running into. These drones and other aircraft that they were really worried that they would crash into and they kept giving the d o d the data the videos the information saying what's going on this this is a u a p e s you gotta do something about it who's is it what is it. And in some instances they retaliated against the service members the pilots and said you know you're just crazy about aliens and you know we're not gonna take you seriously anymore and ruin their careers well I was chair of the personnel subcommittee I said that's not acceptable. These are men and women who are serving bravely for our country and they're just reporting what they see you need to look at it and analyze it and figure out who's it is.
25:31 Well we set the office three years ago we fully funded the defense bill and this is fascinating because we don't know who's making these tech this these types of aircraft I'm sure some of its China I'm sure some of its Russia and I'm sure some of its Iran. They are at the forefront of drone technology we already know one weather balloon was Chinese and they're spying they're spying on our bases on our nuclear sites. And over. So I made this office I created it it's up and running I made sure the d o d we fully funded it because they didn't even want to fund it and we will get to the bottom of it but did anybody watch the hearings last week we had some strange testimony we had some pilots say you know we saw this craft it's a tic tac here's the video it had strange flying patterns we don't understand what it was those pilots should not be discriminated against that information is there and then the second guy I think was a navy officer. And. And he said well I was in charge of looking at all the existing you AP programs and I talked to everybody I could and found out what I could. And I talked to a bunch of people who said not only do we have a program but it's super secret and we have dead aliens and we have crashed aircraft.
26:41 What. I don't know what this is they will not tell me about it I cannot get to the bottom of it I cannot get any data and information so we don't know if it's exists we don't know if it's if that's real. Those individuals will have to testify in front of the air office so far whistleblowers have been reluctant to testify to the air office is part of the department defense they are afraid of retaliation they're afraid of. Of lots of things that they cannot come forward so we made sure in the arrow provisions that has a whistleblower protection we made sure that if you sign a nondisclosure agreement that you can come forward and share your testimony but how many people saw Oppenheimer. Okay, so Oppenheimer is about developing the bomb during World War II. And all those scientists who worked on that project had to sign nondisclosure agreements. And what I've heard about those nondisclosure agreements is that because it was wartime, it had provisions that said, including if you disclose under penalty of death. And so the big worry is that people who sign nondisclosure agreements to work on any type of program for the military, that it had language in there that made them think that that was true.
27:51 So there's a lot of fear. And so I don't know if we'll ever get to the bottom of it. I don't know if we'll ever get the information about special access programs that are need to know only that Congress is not read in on. I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. I put a provision in the defense bill this year that said you can't fund any special access programs if you don't get if you don't come through Congress. So that's one push. And then the other push is just trying to get these whistleblowers to talk to the guy who's head of Arrow, who's very competent and very capable. The last way I'm going to try to find out is the way Arrow is going to operate, because we keep seeing all these drones and weather balloons and spy balloons, is we're going to get better sensors. We're going to get better sensors on our aircraft, better sensors on our bases, better sensors at these nuclear sites. So whatever's flying around them, we know whose they are, because they're most likely adversarial. They're most likely Chinese. They're most likely Iranian, trying to get intelligence, trying to get data. And if it's not, we'll catch them.
28:46 So we'll know what it is, whatever it is. I think that's fascinating. I mean, I commend her for talking about it. I know this has been in the news and everything like that, but we know exactly what's going on. And I think it's just about a few things that are just a little ways away from everyone just completely losing their minds over this. But everyone still thinks, oh, yeah, it's got to be adversarial. There's nothing spiritual going on here. It doesn't comply with physics, people. Anyway, I think that was fascinating. It lets me see a little bit about what some of the other senators are thinking about this as they dig into it deeper. What do you think, Matthew? Well, Bradley, did I break up a little?
29:41 Yeah, what happened? Did I break up a little? Oh, no. I don't know. Probably my internet connection. The laughter was still there. We anticipate the laughter. It happens all the time. But there was a nervous tinge to that laughter. I think because the things she's saying to this crowd of people, they're so they're basically insane. I mean, to the average person, she's talking about dead bodies and the recovered craft. And it's kind of, oh, that's wacky. That's he. Oh, but it's no longer just like, ah, like they're just, you know, they're completely wrong. They're crazy. It's more like, ha ha, that would be crazy if it were true. And you're right. I think we're just a couple of steps away. From mass hysteria when it when it breaks out once again, we're just I think it's worth pointing out Kristen Gillibrand that she is a Democrat senator from New York.
30:37 We then have Representative Tim Burchett, who is a Republican, was involved with the hearings. And there are some other Republicans involved, but he's kind of the face of it. He was the head of it. So you have these two sides of the aisles taking a vested interest. And so I think it's really important for us to be able to see what's in the phenomenon. And this is it's it's not a dividing wedge. We see what in politics is not a dividing wedge these days. People, we can't agree on anything politically in Washington, D.C. I say we, but it's they I'm not involved with it. I don't really get into politics at all. I'm an observer, but I'm not a I don't engage with it. And from what I see, there's always got to be an issue if there's if someone says yes, they got to say no. But he's right. Here we have, like I said, a mutual interest.
31:27 So we're going to see more of that for sure. I also thought the inclusion of Oppenheimer was interesting because that's just the mass media. We've seen a lot of mass media come out about UFOs. And it's interesting because I didn't draw that distinction. But Oppenheimer had it was one of these super special secret special access projects is what they're called. And they had to sign their nondisclosures. And as she mentioned, it's it's almost putting it in the public's mindset, letting them know, yes, there are these secret groups working behind the scenes. And maybe they're they're working for the defense of the country or for the interests of the country militarily or otherwise. And most people, I think, probably several years ago would have been like, oh, there's nothing that secret out there. Maybe there's a little something here or there.
32:20 But now we're talking about special access projects that are involved. With UFO, man, this is just acceleration. Bradley, I tell you what, that's all I see it as. I want to I want to thank Papa Bear. Thank you for the super chat here. You said you should look into the 2006 movie Unidentified. You know, that's been mentioned several times. Maybe I should look into it. It links aliens to demons. Huh. I didn't know that. I will look into that. Well, we'll actually probably cover that in the show if we can then. That's really interesting. That's really interesting. That all this is coming out right now. And even up higher with the talking about nuclear weapons. I think it was interesting because just just recently they were going through some of the documents that were declassified.
33:08 And they found that some of these people that were working on this project had to sign these contracts saying, if you say anything about this, you will be reprimanded, even killed, even killed. And so they said that's that's on the table. And so there's no doubt that even back then, if these things were surrounded, this super secret SAP, as they call them, program that they were a fear for their lives and they didn't want to say anything. But things come out. And on this show, we don't just talk about UFOs and all this stuff that's happening. We truly believe that it is a spiritualism. It's something else that's going on here. That is not just a conspiracy between man. But this is something that's much, much bigger than that. It's much, much bigger than what's going on. And it's going to be a much bigger problem in the near future. And if you go into go to StarfallMovie.com, we kind of outline at least what has happened in the last or two years ago.
34:07 There's much more that's happened since then. And you know what? I need to do an update to that. But finding time to do it is this is the key. OK, so moving on. Besides that, I thought it was interesting today. We're going to talk a little bit about politics. We're going to talk a little bit about Podesta. You know who Podesta is, Matthew? Unfortunately, I know. You're talking about John Podesta, right? Yes, yes. Because there are two of them. There are Podesta brothers that are involved. There's Tony Podesta and John Podesta. So make sure we get our Podesta straight. Look at you. They're birds of a feather, though. In some ways, they could be used interchangeably, I think. Yeah. So John Podesta. We talked about him in Starfall. He helped Tom DeLonge write his secret machine books that Tom wanted to reveal what's really going on in the government with this stuff.
35:02 And he, meaning Tom DeLonge, said that John Podesta was an occult expert. And so a writer that helped him write this occult expert stuff. What was interesting is a lot of the stuff that came out was actually written by people in the government. And the first thing that came out was coming out in WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks was a website created by Julian Assange, right? And I want to call him Julian Asiago. I don't know why, but I always want to say that. But what he did was he created this stuff and it leaked out a bunch of US information, particularly Podesta, his emails to Tom DeLonge about UFOs. But that wasn't the real reason. He wanted to do it because he was revealing what was going on in the Clinton administration. And so he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. And then he started to do it. Right, correct. But he just did it based on this later building he had. And and so what he did in everything that he did was he leaked out a bunch of U.S. information, particularly Podesta, his emails to Tom DeLonge about UFO. But what he did was he created this stuff. And I don't know why, but I always want to say that Copyright Pro thicker than an image uses a background story, right? But that wasn't the real reason. He wanted to do it because he was revealing what was going on in the Clinton campaign.
35:49 But other stuff came out, too. So so, this is what's interesting about that. I know that's a lot of background story. But what's interesting to me about it is that if you go to WikiLeaks right now and for the Podesta email files this is what you see error the page you are requesting is currently being rebuilt it will be back online soon thanks for your patience every single Podesta email is gone so although and all that stuff I put in a star fall you can't find at least that was like all my sources are gone I didn't back them up but there's something cool about the internet if you go to archive.org archive.org you can type in the URL that's up there and it's it says that wasn't devil horns by the way that was me trying to get my hands don't talk with your hands that's rule number one so hand out of frame so I so if you type in the URL to archive.org it actually shows you what was originally at that URL and you can go back in time because it takes snapshots of the website so you can still find all those files on archive.org seriously so all that stuff is still there but it's fascinating Oh Julian Cotter not a massage says hit that like button thank you for the super chat because it really does help it brings in more people the more you hit that like button well you can only hit it once but if you hit it everybody hit it you could just toggle it on it that like and dislike button so I think I think it's interesting that we still that that all that stuff went away Matthew I how does is it just an error with the system or did do they have something going on that they're trying to get rid of all their their resources now that this whole stuff is blowing up I don't know but it really led me in to want to dig into into Podesta a little bit more and so I found he did a recent podcast and some of the stuff he said was really interesting do you have anything to say before we get into that no probably not that I want to say I've been I kept an eye on the chat and already I'm seeing people in the live chat discussing some of the things that John Podesta has been accused of being involved in I would say that I agree with you it is really disgusting um yeah there's some stuff about John Podesta I wouldn't even I covering it in a way it's it's an important thing because it will it's just a glimpse that really how Sinister the world the world can be behind the scenes but I wouldn't want to even put some of the images I know are associated with John Podesta on this stream because they're just so disgusting and it's hard for me because I Brad sends a lot in the discord he we have a little channel for show outline and several hours beforehand he'll post the show outline and when I read the name Podesta I just felt sick in my stomach because it really it is it's just it's Sinister so yeah there's I don't know really not a decent company I guess well you have to tell me in the after show wait yeah I don't know if it's if it's bad don't tell me right here in live but uh when we get a recording and we can't do a long recording tonight because I got to go right into the the Bible answers live program but um and Matt Yahoo you you're you're hitting the nail on the head as far as um I uh as far as I know that's that's kind of what I'm alluding to oh let's just say uh yeah let's just say he's an art collector okay it's really disgusting if yeah I mean like I don't even want to really direct people to it but okay you have yeah whatever let's just roll the clip Brad I'm done let's see what let's see what this guy has to say so we can debunk it and since talking about UFOs and all this other stuff that's happening right now he's just as clueless it seems as everybody else or is he watch this clip so with this this hearing was extremely important and it's just the first of a lot of different disclosures that are coming so uh we know there's a lot more my issue with all of this is a little different I think from some people's and that is um I'm a little confused as to a number of things one is the very American or United States centric aspect of this um we're acting like we're the only ones who know what's going on or have access to the materials or have access to the to the
40:42 intelligence about this um we know that other countries do as well yeah what's confusing is how come nobody else is doing this yet why isn't China why isn't Russia I mean they have come out individually in bits and pieces they've revealed things to the Soviets in the old Soviet era they were as concerned about this as we were they may have had even a little Edge on us in certain ways they were actually reporting they were finding ways of getting the attention of this phenomenon and efforts to communication and stuff right I mean yeah yeah so you know there's that going on so for the United States government to say well we can't talk about this this is secret and yet everybody has a cell phone and everybody has high you know HD cameras pointed at the sky and they're picking stuff up and they have advanced communications in the hands of normal human beings you're not going to keep this secret for very much longer so it's about time to you know come clean guys as far as we can I understand from a security point of view we don't want other countries to know exactly what we know because they may realize we don't know as much as we think we know they may have an Edge they may have a missing piece we want their missing pieces before we reveal our missing piece I understand that mentality but that's a defense department mentality we also have the mentality of people who work in in religious studies in philosophy in psychology in the sciences they need to be brought in they need to be read in we need to figure this out really quickly because if something happens if the if something lands on the White House lawn the famous thing we've got to be prepared we can't just sit there and start the ball rolling then we've got to have a lot of options and a lot of ways of viewing this and handling the information and I don't think we have that yet there's just not people involved not enough regular people involved not enough people from other countries from other ethnicities you know this sounds sometimes I know I get into these arguments with people and they think well you're just trying to be a liberal about this you're talking about diversity I mean guys this is not about trying to be politically correct this is about there are people out there with pieces of this information yeah we don't have that so I'm gonna pause it right there just for a second so what I really wanted to discuss in that is that he says hey look we don't really understand this at least the the majority doesn't we need to get people involved specifically he said religious people we need to get the religions involved we need to to read people in in other words that's I I like to say that a different way we need to indoctrinate people with what we believe is going on here specifically the religions that's what he's saying here someone asked in the chat who's Podesta well he's he's a uh well I'm going to say he's a writer that helped write some of the uh the books that Tom DeLong created and Tom DeLong if you haven't seen my documentary Starfall go watch that it's interesting um he's mentioned Podesta's mentioned in there he's an occult author um that's very keen on this what do you think Matthew um did you get the clip mixed up because that that guy was Podesta yeah it was no it wasn't it was a no that no totally different guy unless I'm like terribly mistaken and he looks completely different now than he did like eight or nine years ago which it happens but he's got a beard now uh really let me go see I don't know let me go I'm gonna grab okay okay we're gonna take just a second here because I could get my wires crossed here but I'm John Podesta um maybe I was wrong let's let's go look at the source real quick and uh we'll get that up and running here it's going to take me just a second we'll have to cut this out of the uh out of the old one I'm gonna bring up the uh watch the chat someone's gonna know in the chat yeah it's it did say Peter hmla pilot yeah Deborah McKinney says John Podesta has a small head yeah okay he's a distinct he's distinct looking guy that's why I was like where is this where is he there are two Podestas but it's uh it's Tony Podesta and John Podesta LT Sam Riley said Podesta looks like Chester from Lincoln Park is that the lead singer I've never heard that connection Chester's the one that died yeah wow yeah I know um he does he
45:28 is younger John Podesta I never made that connection you're correct Sam Riley he definitely uh if he grew his hair out um maybe I would reckon see I thought maybe he just grew a beard and grew a hair but um he definitely doesn't look like that with all the non-hair on his head I'm looking at Google images but you're right he does look like uh an older Chester um well wonderful who is this guy I mean yeah it's good it's good stuff I just want to know who it is well he's still got some great stories so let's uh I mean while I figure that out oh man who is this guy then it said Podesta when I when I watch the podcast great does anybody recognize old Peter if you do drop it in the chat let's listen to this guy's next story he does have some very fascinating stories and I'll figure out who actually because he has some knowledge here so there's got to be something going on uh listen to this story about going to the airport we're going to talk a little bit about this um this uh this was fascinating see if I just got the right clip now you're throwing me off man oh you're throwing me let's try to solve the UFO problem first it's saying how many alien races are there I hear I hear this all the time I'm thinking guys calm down yeah we're still struggling with the idea there might be one and is it alien or is it ultra-terrestrial is it sub-terrestrial is it you know does it live in the ocean is it here with us has it been here with us all this time um next to us you know you know we just can't see it I mean there was this um this exercise given to me by Timothy Goode uh famous you know from England we met um at this thing in this breakaway civilization conference I guess it was secret space program in Amsterdam some time ago more than 10 years ago 15 years ago I guess and we shared a bottle of scotch because we had nothing else to do in this little tiny hotel okay so and he said listen to you know see how this works just go to any public place go to a especially an airport go to an airport or a shopping mall and just sit on a bench and just get very peaceful and then just say okay i know you're here you know say hello and then open your eyes and see what happens you know and somebody will inevitably turn around in a crowd look at you and wave and then disappear he says they're there with us they're here they've always been here that was his his point and i've had that experience i think your listeners probably know very well you don't want to hear it anymore it's my infamous man in black experience in in rhode island some years i mean and i hadn't seen a ufo i had nothing you know i had no personal contact with uh i had never had a sighting i hadn't had one until a couple of years ago and but i'm getting the men in black thing i'm thinking like why you're supposed to do this this is like in reverse order right so um but this does happen and there was something uncanny about that experience these were outwardly human but there was something off there was something just a little off yeah it was discerning and it happened you know both times first in rhode island and then the airport in singapore you know where one of them tapped me on the shoulder so they were corporeal and i turned and they waved and disappeared it's like they're they're here right yeah and they they can be visible and they do look like us but there is something a little off and that whole men in black thing where it's the old the old cadillacs you know and the the slightly off suits and the manner of speaking i kind of believe it now because i've had that you know confrontation hmm interesting so this reminded me a lot of um the honestly it reminded me of high school uh you'd hear kids say you know what if you go in front of a mirror and you turn around three times and you put something on your head and you wave backwards i don't know they do something silly then you'll see a ghost in the background or someone will come you know and all this other stuff and it was like oh i don't i don't want to try that well you know this is this is uh i hate to say it but you know i didn't believe that stuff back then but who knows um we live in a life that we don't fully understand i mean if you really think about it there's another whole nother a thing going on just behind the curtain that we we can't really understand so um yeah i truly believe what he said because this is uh and they are here they've been here forever they're not an alien race at least not the way that science thinks of aliens but there is
50:23 definitely a another race that is uh conspiring against us and we can't necessarily see them all the time and so that's what it made me think about i thought okay going into an airport and saying into your mind almost emptying yourself and having this uh nice thoughts what does that remind you of i felt i felt like i was listening to to grier for a second there um the same way they wanted to contact these uaps was the same way he wanted to contact these people that would wave and disappear that's probably happening yeah okay i believe it but would i try it nope what do you think i think it takes a certain level of faith it's funny i was having a discussion earlier this day with somebody about faith and the role that it plays because god asks us to have faith have faith in him and he proves himself to us through our faith even um jesus when he uh healed i forget which particular person but it was uh go thy way thy faith has uh saved you am i correct in saying that i don't like to paraphrase the bible normally i don't have it pulled up in front of me if i read from the bible but faith does play an element and i think that is the missing link for the majority of the public is that it is a spiritual deception whenever people realize i just need to put my faith in it believe that it's there acknowledge their presence and then request it and say i am giving you the permission come in show me that you're here and then they manifest it's gonna blow people's minds and i think that's where we'll start seeing mass visitations is just because people are going to have essentially yeah for lack of a better word it's faith that's what it is in in these beings and i know what you're talking about with the the little superstitious stories i had one in my hometown where there was a story oh like a girl died here and this pond and if you go to the pond in the middle of the night like you'll see lights and stuff over the pond and all this crazy stuff and there were people who claimed to have done it oh yeah it was spooky it was like crazy and all this sort of stuff to me it's it's tantamount to playing with ouija boards for example i would never play with a ouija board even when i wasn't a uh like spiritual person i was going through a phase of agnostic atheism in high school if someone if i was at someone's house and they whipped out a ouija board and was like hey man let's just play with the ouija board even in that mindset i would say uh no thanks like it's just creepy i just don't want to associate with a ouija board with a ouija board with a ouija board with a there's a something basic inside of you that knows this is a weird thing to do to try to establish communication with the dead or with a a being otherwise and it's it just seems like that's what you can do and it's not in the realm of of science prayer is not in the realm of science it's going to be very interesting to see how people grapple with this reality of the spirit realm and just how they they engage with it once the mass revelation happens yeah yeah absolutely and so i found out who that guy was and fortunately it's just as interesting as as i had hoped so that's and i've been saying the characteristics of this guy at least he's been correct in my head the whole time but um for some reason i got these two guys mixed up that was peter lavenda so peter lavenda was the guy who wrote with tom delong like i said but for some reason i was saying john podesta was a writer i don't know thanks for correcting that that would have been a awful it's okay all the way through the show you know what no no no that's just the standards we have to hold ourselves to i was saying in the chat there's enough disinformation out there unfortunately yeah we need to check ourselves so please if we ever misspeak about the information that we're putting out uh you know leave a comment below disagreeing with us about doctrine that that's fine too you can leave comments there do read through those and i appreciate if you have a difference there but especially in terms of us getting this information out we can't look like fools for saying one thing when it's really another thing and it's an innocent mistake it happens to everybody but yes that is peter lavenda and he is the author who works with tom delong on his secret machine books and if you just do a quick little google search of peter lavenda hit that images button you're gonna see a lot of book covers with a lot of weird occultic esoteric symbolism on it i mean i pulled it up i'm seeing the all-seeing eye
55:07 i'm seeing the swastika over an upside down pentagram you name it this guy's got it yeah yeah he's just running the gambit so uh yeah this guy is definitely i i imagine a little more clued in than most people right right and so it's it's it's interesting to see what what he has to say about all this stuff and so that going to the airport story was a lot of fun and it was a lot of fascinating to me because it seems so much like uh greer so all these characteristics they all kind of go together and you think okay if he's talking about the occult like that he's talking about demons like that if he's talking about the bible uh spirituality like that chances are these ufos these aliens this is this is where this stuff is this is it is what it is it's not a separate thing and so i'm kind of making that case but hear that i wasn't doing the asmr thing it was me actually just touching the microphone i hope this doesn't become an asmr channel bradley okay let's let's jump into the next uh the next topic here peter lavenda uh he talks about nhi knox and this reminded me of a story that uh roger murno talked about check this out and uh one uh evening here i was um finishing work in the middle of the night as i usually do and i suddenly heard um a very sort of very strange electrical noise um like like a short circuit but going on for a little bit too long and i was startled and i started looking all over the i mean i have nothing that does that right i've got some computers and that's about it um this so i couldn't figure that out and then suddenly right after that it came a series of hard knocks like somebody knocking on the door but knocking him in the room yeah so i mentioned this too to whitley and he said the same thing that the guy said when i saw the ufo well they've noticed and i they do i think once they've noticed there's a connection whether it's you consider it like a uh being contaminated somehow or being something contagious but i think there is something like that there is um you're carrying it with you somehow that contact with you for a while yeah so what really a fascinating about this a fascinating me about this is that how many times he uses i think i believe he's not quite sure what's going on here someone that that says they are a cult expert and they they they i think what's going on here they've attached to me somehow i don't exactly know and uh right he doesn't protrude a lot of authority about this because i think a lot of people we just don't know unless you have an authoritative sure word of god and um go for it well i i think there could also be the fact that he's not quite sure what's going on here and he's not quite sure what's going on here and he's not quite sure what's going on here and he's not quite sure what's going on here that he doesn't want to be as forthcoming about his information and that by using the words i think i believe it might be you're leaving the door open to well i'm not saying it definitively i think he like i said take a look at this guy's catalog bradley it seriously i have a feeling a strong feeling that he knows what is going on this what are you looking at what are you looking at what do you mean take a look google his name google peter levenda and then go under images and just look at his books this is not a man who i think i know this is the guy who who really likes the occult world so wow yeah exactly that is a yeah this is something um and he's describing and you have to go to google you can't go to bing i tried to go to bing images and it gave something totally different this is google's given something this is something to talk about right here all these images my my exactly yeah i invite the viewers please open up another tab and and google peter levenda look at the images but what he's describing with this alien extraterrestrial contact is a demonic encounter it's it's so obvious if if i took this clip out of context and i just said oh yeah we've got a guy who's talking about demon attachments here i'm gonna roll the footage for you you would just say yeah i mean this is obvious as christian Christians, we should know. I think all of us should have this basic level of discernment to know something's not right here. Something is terribly wrong. And I believe that he knows what is happening and that he's stimulating the interest for people who don't have that level of discernment because they have the itching ears. They want to go after this type
59:53 of information because they have essentially what I've heard described as a God-sized hole in their heart. There's an absence of God and they want to fill it with something. And these extraterrestrials, it's the perfect thing for somebody who doesn't want to accept the God of the Bible and still wants to have some type of a spiritual communication or a sign. Tangible. Yeah, exactly. Have you seen the movie, the documentary called Charmed by Darkness by Chris Lang? Have you seen that documentary? Yeah, I watched it probably. That was over a year ago. Yeah, it's from 2019. And it was interesting because there's a clip in there of this guy named Roger Morneau. We talk about him a lot on this channel. If you're new here, welcome. He was even in the clip, the bumper, I call it, the 20-minute bumper that leads up to this program. And what he said in there is that when he had these Christians come over to his house, he was a cultist back then. Yeah, he was a cultist back then. And he said, you know, it's just, you know, these guys that come at midnight and they knock on your door real loud, those are just the union guys. Don't worry, I can take care of it. And so they got their gun out. And when it came at midnight, the guy pulled his gun out and they opened the door and nobody was there. I mean, loud knocking on the door.
1:01:20 Exactly how Peter Lavenda, excuse me, is that his name? I'm second guessing myself. Yeah, Peter Lavenda. Correct. Uh, described here. So. Yeah. And you notice how there's like a scientific tinge to it where he's like, it's almost an electrical kind of a crackling type of a thing. No, no, I don't know. Don't try to play this game. This is a horror novel, Peter, not a sci-fi. At the end of this broadcast, we're going to show a clip from Roger Morneau talking about that exact thing that's happening and moving objects around the room and something. Another thing that the knocking reminded me of, and this is a little bit disputed because, uh, they, they had, uh, these are women from the 1800s. I'm about to talk about the Fox sisters who gave rise to spiritualism. The first supposed, uh, communications were through wrappings. That's what they described them as. Uh, those women did come under criticism. Some people said, no, like the, the sisters were making those noises themselves to try to benefit off of it. Whatever. I don't know. Either way, it seems to have been a very, very, very, very, very, very, blown up. And that is a form of communication that spirits will use is the, the wrapping and the tapping. And I think it almost goes hand in hand with Jesus who knocks at the door that they are knocking at the door. They are looking for, for the permission essentially to enter. I think, I think that's a big part of God's system is the permission and you're either permitting it unknowingly or knowingly. So if you're doing it knowingly, stop it. And if you're doing it unknowingly, pray to God and the Holy spirit is going to lead you. Into a conviction and you will get that habit, the behavior, whatever it is out of your life and you'll cut the cord with them. It's going to be good. And what we've seen over and over and over and over and over and over again is usually what happens is this leads up into some kind of belief about having a dual, uh, a dual soul of some kind where you're, you're here on earth and you can be a whimsical thing that's floating around somewhere even after death. And so we're going to see that next.
1:03:28 That Peter LaVinda believes this exact thing. Watch. I have a, uh, a friend on Twitter, Tristan, um, a great guy. He's got, um, his handle. Go ahead. You know who I'm talking about? I think so. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, um, he shares these beautiful graphics and he's a thinker and we had a conversation on the phone. I told him I was going to interview you and he was really, he asked me to talk to you about a little bit about the relationship between death slash the afterlife potentially with the phenomenon. And I know that Whitley Strieber, has talked a lot about that. Um, and also, um, in your books, the, uh, the connection between death and the celestial ascent, how dying sort of is seen as a journey through the stars, perhaps through the big dipper to get back to, um, you know, uh, I'm not sure what. So, I mean, I, I was, I guess I'm going to ask you is what are your, what are your thoughts currently about that connection? Has anything changed significantly in your thinking or grown more, um, fulsome? Um, just if you could, uh, pontificate on that for a minute. You don't pull any punches, do you? You asked like the heaviest, deepest, most profound questions. And you got five minutes. I'm kidding about that. It's hard to live up to, to the question. I mean, um, yeah. Uh, yeah, I did of course, write about celestial ascent. It fascinates me. That's one aspect of all of this that I think goes back to everything we've been discussing. Celestial ascent has been something we find in so many different cultures around the world. The idea that we are going to the stars and that we belong up there and that this is not our home. Yeah. We, we feel alienated on our own planet.
1:05:12 We must be the only beings on this planet that feel that we don't belong here that can actually conceive of the earth as a prison planet. I mean, who else does this? Right. Yeah. I mean, of course there's nobody else here except us chickens, but, um, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We do. We, we tend to look at this this way. Why is that? There is, there's a flaw either in us or there's a flaw in this system somehow, you know, a glitch matrix, as they say, there's something that we're seeing something else. And we're realizing that this is not the reality that we think it is. Yeah. And I was just having conversations. I had a conversation with Tom just last week, I think with along similar lines that this is not the reality you think it is. And this is, it's something else. Yeah. Their, their death is part of it. Death is the great, is the great joke. It's the banana heel on the floor of reality. We are petrified of it. Uh, or, or we try to ignore it or we try to, you know, um, protect ourselves against thinking about it or getting emotional. And when someone that we know dies, it's, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's, it's heartbreaking. It's wrenching and we don't understand it. And we think there's something wrong with it. And yet animals feel the same, you know, a dog will mourn its master for years after the master has died, visiting the grave and sitting there, you know, we've seen this, we know this kind of thing happens. So there is something genetically, and I've talked about this in secret machines, man, I think we are genetically predisposed to reproduce and then die and get out of the way. Yeah.
1:06:55 Richard Dawkins calls it the selfish gene. Our gene wants to live forever. It is potentially immortal. There is immortality in our genetics. There's immortality in our genetics. You will not surely die. So when I, is death the banana peel in life, Matthew? And you should have chopped that one up. There's too much to talk about in that. And from the celestial ascent to, I don't know, us being in a prison planet and all that stuff. Wow. Okay. So death is unnatural. He talks about the animals, even mourning death. Death was not ever intended for us. Death came in through sin. That that's the opening wedge. The wages of sin are death. God said it from the very beginning. You know, if you went against him, you will die. And Satan's the one who says you will surely not die. There is not an ascension into the stars, at least through death. He's describing death as a journey. And we've seen that a lot in pagan cultures. There are death cults that have been around in all sorts of different cultures. I mean, we're talking about the Vikings had a death cult. They wanted to die and go to Valhalla.
1:08:13 Even the samurai in Japan had a form of death cult because they were seeking death on the battlefield. It was Bushido that drove them and demanded a warrior's death. So Satan has been enticing humanity with death when it really is something just totally unnatural. And thankfully, something that God has promised he's going to get rid of. Actually, in the end of Revelation, if you go to Revelation 20, you'll see that death and hell are the final things that are thrown into the lake of fire. That means once that death is gone, no more dying after that. And it's the very last thing. I think that's a very important point to make. As far as it being in our genetic code, immortality, I'm not sure what he's referring to. But if we ever had immortality in our genetic code, we lost it. We lost it with Adam and we lost it with Eve when they chose to sin against God and when death entered in to us and the rest of the world. I mean, the world has been cursed for our sake. And it's one little sin. We have a holy God, Bradley.
1:09:22 And what that means is a holy God is perfect. And we have a holy God who is perfect. And we have a holy God who is perfect. Spotless and clean. And you have to ask yourself, in order for all of this terrible stuff to have happened, how many sins did it take for all of this terrible stuff to happen? Just one. That's how serious sin is. It was something innocuous, too. It wasn't like it was something that was terrible. It was eating a piece of fruit. Hey, God said not to. And I think it's fascinating because when the snake came, he said, you will not surely die. Immortality of the soul is the lie that has been pressed by Satan from the beginning of time. So if you want to see something, the most extreme occultic thing is that right there, saying that you cannot die. When the wages of sin is death, saying you don't die. You go on and live and death is nothing to worry about. No, death is a big deal. It's a huge deal. And that's why God constantly says, hey, look, I'm throwing death into the... into hell here. This is... death is the last thing to be destroyed. Death is a... The last enemy. Yeah, it's a terrible thing. But I want to harp on that just real quick, because I think it's important to talk about that, because the Bible even says your soul dies. The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
1:10:43 That's Ezekiel 18.20. Revelation 16.3. Every living soul died in the sea. So what happens? What happens? When we die? Well, we return to dust. That's Psalms 104.29. We know nothing. That's Ecclesiastes 9.5. Possesses no mental power. That's Psalms 146.4. Has nothing to do with anything on earth. That's Ecclesiastes 9.6. Does not live. That's 2 Kings 21. Waits in the grave. That's Job 17.13. And continues not. That's Job 14.1 and 2. And the list goes on and on and on. I have a whole paper here on that, and I just read a short paragraph on it. It's clear that the first thing that the cult wants you to believe, including this whole UFO religion, is that you cannot die, and you will go on. And there is even some Christian churches that believe that you don't die when the wages of sin is death. So anyway, don't get me started. This is fascinating. It's funny. Well, it's funny because I just went over this morning the last three verses of Revelation, and just to go over it and get it fresh in my mind. And let's take a look at Revelation. Sorry, my son was getting me into the room. A little distracting. It's all right.
1:12:18 Let's look at Revelation 2014. Sorry, no, no, not 2014. Man, I'm all messed up now after that. Let's see. Here it is. Revelation 20, verse 6. Sorry, folks. Blessed and holy is the one who has part in the first resurrection. Over these, the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. So there are two resurrections. And who told us about two resurrections? Well, if we go to John 5, verse 29, we see Jesus talking and saying, and shall come forth. He's talking about all people in the judgments. They that have done good unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil unto the resurrection of damnation. So you have these two forms of resurrection. There's the people who have died in Christ, who are going to be raised and given eternal life. And then there are those who have died in their sin. They will be raised and tossed into the lake of fire. Well, they were experienced the second death. And think about that. It's the second death. That means there was a first death. So the state of being dead that those people had experienced before the second resurrection, they will then die a second time and be in the second death.
1:13:44 It's the distinction that I sometimes see is that people have said, well, it's a spiritual death. And I wonder, I'm like, well, what does that mean? The second death is a spiritual death. So they will be alive and experiencing torment. For all time, but they'll be dead spiritually. In my reading, I'm not trying to mock. Honestly, if that's your belief, I understand how you could arrive there. I've looked at those verses and I held that belief myself for a long time, but I had to study the Bible and say, okay, what does this say? And what do I believe just based off of the word of God, not necessarily the traditions of men and how I'd been taught that the punishment for, for sinners is dealt out. And I believe the Bible speaks. Very plainly, very clearly second death. It is death. It is a destruction. I mean, I Bradley, I've started a little pet project and what I've done is I've been going through the parts of the Bible with a highlighter and every time it mentions death and destruction for the wicked, I highlight that. And every time it talks about life and prosperity for the righteous, I highlight that. I just went through Proverbs this Sabbath. And I mean, it, it was shocking at a certain point. I was just like, just going back and forth because some of those chapters are so dense with this theology, with this doctrine, it would blow your mind. Maybe I'll share that with our, with our community here on, on a Thursday night.
1:15:12 Yeah, that's a good idea. And how can, how can other people get involved with that? That's, that was a, what was that after show? You tune in on Thursday. That's how you get involved with it. No, I, I, are you, yeah. Is that what you're referring to? Actually, no, I was, I was thinking you meant broadcasting. I was thinking you meant discord, but yeah, you, if you want to be in, if you want to be involved with our community group, we got about 60 people that help us out in planning the show and showing different things throughout the week. We can't contain it all, but there's a lot of people involved. And sometimes we do a little get togethers, voice chat and stuff. You can get involved by going to patreon.com slash strange, normal, strange, normal. And that's a, that, and then you can click on the, the discord private group and you can get into, uh, all of us partnering with us and helping us spread this message. I want to add to that, uh, Matthew Malachi four, three talks a little bit about, um, what happens when the death chapter four. Yeah. So we're going, Oh yeah, that's where we're going. So it says, it says, and ye tread down the wicked for they shall be ashes under the souls of your feet in the day that I shall do this. The Lord of hosts. That's Malachi four, three. It says we're going to look at four, one.
1:16:31 Okay. Go for it. Oh, what? Let me grab my Bible. Malachi. I'll do the whole verse then, or the whole chapter. Yeah. I only had one up here. Get the context in there because it is, uh, uh, and I'm sorry, we're kind of sidebarring here, people, but this is what it's about. We are a ministry. I mean, we might talk about some weird UFO stuff, but at the end of the day, it's all about the word of God. No, that's it. We're using, you're using this. Using current events to make the Bible accurate and applicable. That's, that's where I was looking for. Here it is. Verse one says, behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven and all the proud. Yes. All whom do wickedly will be stubble and the day which is coming shall burn them up. Doesn't say they're going to be writhing in pain forever and ever. It's, they will be burnt up. It's going to be painful though. Yeah, I will. I want to say that too, because some people say it's more palatable to believe this doctrine. It is not more palatable. I don't wish this on anybody. It's going to be painful. Jesus said it's wailing and gnashing of teeth. Right, right. It's going to be awful. It says the Lord of hosts that will, that they will leave them neither root nor branch, but to you who fear my name, the son of righteousness shall rise with healing in his wings and you shall go out and grow fat like stall fed calves. Verse three, you shall trample the wicked for they shall be as ash under the soles of your feet.
1:17:59 On the day I do this, says the Lord of hosts. Fascinating stuff. Fascinating. That's from Malachi. And so it's interesting. I'm not saying there aren't verses in the Bible that are a little strange and hard to understand, but it seemed to talk about something. You can substantiate it. Yeah. But if you really dig into this, a lot of people, a lot of people have, have left the church, left the, left God and said, you know what? I, I'm not going to, I'm not going to believe in a God that's going to burn you forever for, for, uh, lying to your mother. That, it does seem a little absolutely strange. This is not what the Bible talks about. I've got one more. I've got one more set of verses here. This is from Nahum. I'm going to be starting at Nahum 1.8. But with an overrunning flood, he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies. What do ye imagine against the Lord? He will make an utter end of the place thereof. And darkness shall pursue his enemies. What do ye imagine against the Lord? He will make an utter end of the place thereof. And darkness shall pursue his enemies. And affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folded together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble, fully dry. So again, we have that same language of being devoured as stubble. Um, this is, I mean, we could go on and on, and I'm sure that, uh, in future videos, we'll be bringing up some more verses like this, but I'm just going to let it stand. You know, you don't want to over overwhelm people with it. We've got some really nice verses in there. And thank you to Peter Levenda for bringing up, uh, bring up what happens when you die so we can kind of open up the Bible and, and have some of this bread.
1:19:36 Right. Right. And with that, uh, I think it's interesting to, uh, jump from Peter Levenda, not John Podesta, to, uh, to, and talk about, uh, a little bit about Ross. Ross, uh, Colhart, Cole, Colbert, Colbert? I forget his name. Uh, is a... Colhart. Yeah. Colhart. Yeah. He's a, the Australian, um, news anchor guy. He's the guy. Yeah. He's the guy pushing this whole thing. He, he, uh, he did a podcast recently where he was in front of an audience and they asked him some questions. He gave a fascinating story about a Polaroid camera. And I thought it was interesting talking points to jump off of. Watch this. It's a great story Jacques Vallée tells of a woman driving in her Citroen car with her two little girls in the back, playing with a Polaroid camera. And there's a clear glass roof in the car. And the little girls look up and see a spaceship, literally a gigantic hovering spaceship over the car. They take a photograph with the Polaroid camera and Jacques got a copy of it. And all you see is not a gigantic hovering disc. The mum saw it as well. What you see is a tiny star shaped object. So is the phenomenon projecting to our perceptions? Is whatever it is, trying to wake humanity up and make us engage with it and understand it and detect it and be aware of it? Is it slowly sensitizing us to its existence by presenting itself to us in ways that it thinks we can understand as technology? Is that why, for example, when little children at Medjugorje, God forbid anybody here is Catholic and thinks I'm insulting the Vatican, but I mean, maybe what they saw was a projection by some non-human intelligence. And it represented itself to them as the most powerful, most powerful, most powerful, most powerful, most powerful, most powerful mother Mary. Oh, he's so close. Maybe what people saw in the book of Ezekiel in the Bible, the spinning wheels, the orbs, maybe that was the way that it presented itself as a phenomenon to people back then when they had no knowledge of technology such as we have today. So I preface everything I say here by saying a lot of the people who've actually looked at this technology, they're baffled by it. I mean, I know Bob Lazar's talked about fiber, cables, but not a lot of the people I've spoken to have. They're not describing technology as we understand it. It's clearly something constructed. It's clearly something technological, but it completely baffles and bewilders the people that have described it to me. So I just caution that when we're talking about technology, maybe what we're talking about here is something that's screwing with our perception. Maybe what ETs, UAPs are, maybe there's a more fundamental mystery here about human consciousness. You know, I raised during my speech about the two central questions, what happens to us after we die and are we alone in the universe? Maybe those two questions are linked. And what if what we think of as UAPs is some kind of AI or some kind of hyper-consciousness that's ever-present, sentient, godlike? I mean, you think about it. Most major religions, fundamentally at their heart, aren't they talking about a non-human intelligence? What is God? It's not a human, is it?
1:23:01 So why is it incompatible for us to think about religious belief? And whether or not what we're talking about is, rather than it just being a simple technology, maybe it's some kind of hyper-sentient, hyper-advanced intelligence that represents itself to us as technology. And maybe that's why we're having a bugger of a time trying to back engineer it. Oh, man. Okay, so there's so much to say about this. I have to say, Matthew, I love the period we're in right now, where everyone is just fascinated by this, but they're just almost there, almost on the button. And everyone's trying to figure out through what they understand, what they've read, and trying to understand what's going on here. It's really fascinating to watch the gears turn in some of these guys. And he's... almost got it. Yeah, God is a non-human intelligence, but so is his angels. And so this is where it gets really dangerous, because I, and this is where I don't see, why doesn't the logic connect here? If they're trying to manipulate, if they're changing perception, why would you see that as kind and good? Why not see that as a little bit deceptive, I guess? He said, the story that really fascinated me is that Polaroid cameras, and I'm not saying that this is a way you can, I've seen so many movies where like, oh, we can use this old technology to figure out this this highly complex scenario. Have you seen that before? Maybe I watched too many sci-fi shows. We need the dumber beings to help the more smarter beings. And you get these Polaroid cameras out, who have been out for so long, and they took a picture of the giant spaceship with the Polaroid camera, and it turned out to be a giant, a little tiny star. Maybe that was actually what it was the whole time, and they were manipulating our heads. You know what I think is fascinating about that even, is that a lot of these times, perceptions that the person sees is totally different than the person beside them sees, or someone else that's nearby. It can appear to someone, but not to another person. That tells me it is probably in the head. It's augmented reality, if you will. And so it makes me wonder, and I wouldn't take this as fact, but it really does make me wonder, if it's all in your head, and they're not, and they're not, and they're not, and they're not, and they're not, and they're not, they've often said things like, you know, you take a picture of the thing in the mirror, or whatever occultic thing that's happening. I'm going back to that high school story, and it's not there. Well, maybe that's in the head, too. So this is why you don't see this stuff, because it's in our perception, in our head. It's occult. It's, what does Jesus say?
1:26:17 It has, I forget the word, inhabited us, basically. I'm not exactly sure if even that makes sense, but do you understand what I'm saying? No, I need to look at the verse to know what you're referring to, just to be honest. Yeah, if you can find it. Did you think we'd be here when you made the Starfall documentary? What was it, two years ago you did Starfall? Oh, man. How quickly have things progressed that we're sitting here tonight talking about, when did Ross Colhart give this little talk? Yeah, just this week. I try to have everything. This week. Yeah, everything that I do, I try to do it in the last week. The man has been progressing steadily since his David Grush interview, into pushing more and more spiritual concepts, and he mentioned the Catholic Church again. He is bringing them up over and over, which, and even in the interview, like we know, it said, oh, the Vatican had the UFO that they then gave the United States. That tells me they have all more information. He talks about how I get taught. Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. Ross Colhart has said, I've talked to people who come to me confidentially and give me information that I'm not allowed to tell other people. It's like an agreement, a journalistic integrity thing. And what these...
1:27:38 They found me. Oh, boy. Anyway, someone, I bet somebody within the Vatican has approached Ross and has told him, you know, some of this information, and he can't exactly come out right and say it. It's just like Peter Lavenda. I think maybe it's possible. We're seeing the same language from Ross Colhart. Maybe it's possible that the apparition could have just been these non-human intelligences. Is it possible, Ross? Or are you just telling me that's what it is, and you have a source that has told you that's what it is? Because my money is on that ladder. I also want to just say, and I've made this distinction before, because I believe that Ross Colhart has pointed this out, where he said, God is not human. There is a human aspect to God. It's Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. If Jesus Christ wasn't fully man, he could not have redeemed us on the cross. Good point. He had to be our kinsman redeemer. There's something in Hebrew thinking that plays into that. But that's a whole nother topic. But we're just going to look at 1 Timothy 3.16.
1:28:58 And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness. God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Without a doubt, Jesus Christ became man. God became man for our sake. So there is a connection between humanity and God. And it's the most important thing. It's the most intimate, loving connection there possibly can be, because he chose to put on flesh and become like us for our own sakes. It's a beautiful, beautiful part that if you just overlook that, God can become very impersonal. He can become a very wrathful being. People focus on that, and they don't see the love that it's God died for you. Wow. Blows the mind. Absolutely. Thanks for bringing that up. That's 100%. Yeah. I should have mentioned that, because absolutely, God came in the flesh. But often people say, well, this NHI, it could be God. Well, yeah. God the Father is not in the flesh, but absolutely Jesus Christ is also God. And that's fascinating. Fascinating stuff.
1:30:16 And I have nothing to... I think you cleaned that up very well. I think it's fascinating, just like you said. They... They mentioned Fatima. He mentioned Fatima and said that these kids might be... what they might actually be seeing. I think, yeah, there's... it's so close to the correct, but it's not. So let's dig into the next story here that he says. He has one more story, and I want to dig into a similar story by Roger Murnau. Listen to this. This is about the auto-rotating balls that... One of the rock stars used as pets. This is crazy. Watch this. There was a guy called Jim Marlin, who's Willie Nelson's former band manager. And quite apart from the fact that he smoked an enormous amount of dope and was the coolest guy I've met in a very long time. Jim had this crazy story that he literally was... He was at the home of a well-known rock star. And... In the mountains. And there was this pile of spheres lying on the ground. And his rock star friend told him that these had literally... They'd literally been sitting on the back porch the previous night. And a craft had literally dropped them into the forest. And they think that the house was so hidden in the forest, whatever it was, didn't realize that there were humans there. Anyway, one of his mates said, you can take one of these spheres. And...
1:31:47 Jim clapped. Jim clapped. Jim clapped. So the guy claims... And I have to admit, we did see anomalous stuff with this sphere. Jim claims that this sphere does things, that it moves around on its own account. And more importantly, there's a history of such spheres going back to the 1970s, a family called the Betts family in Florida. And the so-called Betts sphere used to wobble around the house and literally sort of go around chairs and then come back again. And it was like their pet. but it was a sphere. And I heard about this guy called Jim Marlin from a guy called Patrick Jackson in the UK who studies these spheres. Patrick has made a study and written a book about these spheres that he believes are some kind of non-human intelligence that is purportedly protecting the planet from unfriendly NHIs. And it's a fascinating book. I commend it to you. Patrick Jackson, I've forgotten the name of the book. Quantum Paranormal. Quantum Paranormal. And anyway, Patrick said, you've got to go and meet this guy, Jim Marlin. And so we put this into our story and it was really funny because while we were there, it started moving around the house.
1:33:04 And I'd got my phone and I'd measured the floor to make sure that the floor was completely level. And literally it's under its own power moving around the house. And anyway, I rang Professor Gary Nolan because I knew Gary had an interest. I knew Gary had an interest in this area. And Gary has access to a materials science laboratory, really high-end lab, because a lot of people have said to me, why don't you just cut this thing open? Jim won't let me. It's his pet. He doesn't want it destroyed. But more importantly, people have tried to cut these things open and they haven't been able to cut them. There's no visible seams, no way of opening these things. They're literally just a big, heavy, 40-something pound sphere. So we had this, thing where basically Jim didn't want to let go of it because what happened with the Betts family in the 1970s was media had filmed it literally moving around the house under its own power.
1:34:00 Then the US Air Force came, took it away for a while, and it came back and it was inert. It wasn't doing anything anymore. And the family think that what they were given back was something different from what they gave the Air Force. And look, it is clear. I can't say a lot, but it is clear to me from my conversations with people, they know what these spheres are. They're real, whatever they are. And all I can tell you, ma'am, about the metallic sphere that we got is it is being investigated, but for very good reasons, I'm not revealing anything about where it is, who's got it, and what's being investigated. But watch this space. Oh boy, I don't think this is the last time I hear about those things. What are you dropping? You're dropping these huge bombs on me tonight. I had no idea you had such a lineup. Because, okay, the Betz spheres?
1:34:56 The Betz sphere, I'm sorry. There was just one. Yeah, that was like a really weird little story, kind of an anomalous story that popped up. People kind of look at it on the internet and go, huh, isn't that funny? Isn't that weird? And now he's talking about it saying, oh yeah, there's more of them, and my buddy's got one, and I've witnessed it roll around the house and verified it's moving of its own power. What? What am I listening to? This is insane. I'm sorry. It blew my mind listening to him say that. And not only that, but now he mentioned Gary Nolan. We've covered him before on this program. You keep hearing these same names. I heard Whitley Streber, too, earlier. We covered him as well. Man, these people are the new apostles. For this religion, right. Yeah. They really are. It's like a tight-knit group of people that once you become indicted into, all of a sudden, you're just mutually working together to spread this message.
1:35:55 And he said, keep your eye on that space. I'm presuming because they're going to have some type of, some amazing discoveries to do with this fear. Also, I thought it was funny that he said it just got dropped in the middle of the woods, and they thought nobody lived there. Well, again, it always plays into this thing where they're hyper-intelligent, they're hyper-technologically advanced, but then they just do silly things every once in a while. Every once in a while, they're like, oh, well, you know what? They just slam themselves into the side of a mountain, or they dump orbs in the woods where they think nobody lives. Like, were your scanners not operational? No. They dumped those orbs in the woods because they knew somebody was there. It's all about the attention. It's all about the contact and furthering humanity's interest in this field. We are really, we're on the verge of some really, really crazy stuff. Yeah, I'm sorry, Riley.
1:36:51 You've just blown me away. No, I love your energy. I'm going to make a little short out of that clip. You, that was fantastic. So that reminded me, and I want to acknowledge, who was it here? Sam Riley says, he performed great signs so that he even made fire come down from heaven on earth in the sight of man, Revelation 13, 13. We're going to see some pretty amazing signs as this wraps up. And I think what that reminded me of specifically was Roger Morneau's coming out of the occult during the time when he was realizing that this was a big deal and that he needs to get out of the occult and that his Christian friends were in the right direction. And he told the spirit to leave, and the spirit was not happy. So watch this clip. This reminds me, if you haven't seen Roger Morneau, you need to go watch the three and a half hours. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Let this wet your taste buds. This was fascinating. Watch this. So it went on the phone for a while, and I said, now listen.
1:37:57 It's not possible for me to explain to you over the phone what has taken place in my study of the Bible four hours per evening, you know, through the week. Why don't you come to see me tomorrow sometime, and I'll give you the reasons, the real reasons why I did what I did. He said, okay. So we waited an appointment for, you know, some time on Sunday morning, and I went back. I took my phone call and went back to my apartment, and then I decided to myself get to bed this late. I get to bed. I was not sure in bed that the lights went on. I got up, went there, the lights off. Get back to bed, the light goes on again. I said to myself, it's no use getting up, turning the lights off.
1:38:55 They're going to put them back on again. So I'm going to decide to go to sleep with the lights on. So after a while, things start moving around the place. A picture on that wall goes and sticks itself on the wall. There's nothing to hold it up. And the light that was on the table moved and sent me there. It stays there. Were you feeling afraid at this time? Oh, no, not at all. No. No, because of the fact that, you see, you get, human beings get accustomed to a lot of things. And you get supernatural strength, either from good or evil. And the Lord was singing me through this thing. And I knew that I was going to have a terrible struggle somewhere along the way, somehow. And he was going to try to destroy me, no question about it.
1:39:49 So after this nonsense had gone quite a while, I went on to sleep. Hey, I'm going to get my rest. I'm tired. I said, Lord, you know, bless the old guy. I was not old in those days, though. But I said, bless the fellows. I'm going to get some rest from these spirits. And I went to sleep. And they woke me up about 2 o'clock in the morning again. And at 4 o'clock, now at 4 o'clock in the morning there, I sat up in bed, pushed my pillow in the back, and I said to myself, what in the world am I going to do? Because the Lord doesn't clear the mouth for me. Then I got a thought. That maybe the Lord just wants me to know, from the spirits, exactly, how I'm standing with them.
1:40:39 And I said to the spirit, you want to talk to me? The spirit said, yes, finally. And he will talk to you. What in the world do you think you're doing? You see, the Lord had held back even on the spirits, and the spirits could not talk to me. I realized that they were under very special control. So I got to talk with the spirits. And I realized that he was a spirit counselor. Because he said, the Master has tremendous plans for your life. Fame, honor, respect, wealth. Don't you value any of these things? I said, I want you to know, spirit, that 10 days ago, I would have grabbed your offer. But now you're talking to a former spirit. I'm a spirit worshiper.
1:41:35 And I'm educated to the reality of life, especially of the reality of eternal life. And I said, I'm not interested. For about maybe two or three minutes, maybe four minutes. And it's a long time. In a conversation, there was no response to what I had said. It was like he was totally amazed by your courage. Yeah. Then when the spirit spoke again, he had a tremor in his voice. In other words, you know when a person gets really desperate in a crisis situation, your voice changes. And it gave me the impression that he had a hard time expressing himself. And that was a very clever individual.
1:42:22 Well, he said, we've worked for so long, over the years, to prepare you for the Master's work. And what are you doing? You know, things like that. And he told me, okay, you're turning down the offer of the Master. I said, definitely. He said, from now on, he says, you will, poverty will be the lot of your life. That is, he says, if you can manage to stay alive. And he says, that, I doubt that you won't want to have much of. He says, your days are numbered. I said, you know, spirit, the high priest has mentioned about higher powers. Am I affiliated now with the higher powers? And I said, I don't have to concern myself with you or your Master or any of the other spirits because you're all losers.
1:43:15 I am the winner. A hundred million years of perfect life, recreated, translated, or resurrected body that I'll have, my years will be counted into the millions of years. If I take the offer of the Master, what do I have? I'm twenty years of age. And even if I live to be a hundred, how can you compare that to a hundred million years? And I'll have all the gold that I want and the silver that you're offering me, and more. So, I'm not a loser no more. I'm a winner. And the spirit, the spirit says, will destroy you. And he laughed. He had this, this, this was frightening. For, for one time. He had this laugh that, that caused me to think immediately of the laugh that Nero, instantly, Nero must have had on his face when the lions were tearing the Christians apart.
1:44:17 That's the thing, I said, this is the way that Nero must have laughed. When the, the lions were tearing Christians apart, you know, in the arena of the Colosseum in Rome. So, how did the spirit finally leave, Roger? Finally leave, almost took the door away with him. He, he left through the balcony door, and the door was slammed open, yeah, open. And the, the doorknob almost went through the plaster in the wall. Did he leave on his own accord? I commanded him to. I commanded him, in the name of the Lord Jesus, to leave my place to come no more. And he left? And he left. And instead of slamming the door shut behind him, like a person would, he slammed the door open, as he went out, and he slammed into the wall.
1:45:07 And, and the doorknob, Cyril may still remember, you could see the imprint of the doorknob in the plaster. The house was maybe 50 years old, so the plaster had been settled a long time. You commanded the demon to leave by the blood of Jesus Christ. Yep. He left, slammed the door, did you go back to sleep? Yep. I tell you. This guy has had such an amazing life, but that, that story always gets me, and it's said in my, it's, it's like, seared in my head, because when I heard that the first time, I was like, wow. Imagine, imagine talking to demonic agencies like that, and having an experience with God so powerful that you, you're just like, no, I'm not a loser. Yeah. Well, yeah, and all of the earthly riches that they promise him, it's like, that means nothing, like, I can, I'll have gold in abundance.
1:46:01 And, you know, more than you can ever offer. That's the thing. God offers something that they cannot offer you. That is eternal life, and that is peace, that is joy, the love of the Lord. He wants to bring you in as part of the family. I mean, some of the promises that you can read about in the Bible are just amazing. Again, talking about Revelation, read through the letters of, letters to the churches where Jesus is, is speaking. And look at the end of each one of those. That's to he that overcomes, and then read those portions, because those are all promises to us. Those are, that's what we have in store. That's what God puts on offer. What an amazing being worthy of our worship. I just also want to point out that I've watched this entire interview several times at this point.
1:46:54 But Roger does say later in the interview that if you're having problems with demonic spirits, don't talk to them directly. No, yeah. He was involved with the spirit worship. They had this connection to him and this tie to him. And like he said, it was on his heart to stand up to the spirit and to proclaim his faith in Jesus. But he has said to other people, do not just immediately pray to God. You talk to God when a demonic entity is trying to get in at you. And he was very early into his walk when that happened with that particular demon. So I just want to say, because I admire that about him. That he said, yeah, no, we don't talk to them at all. I know that it happened with me and that's part of my testimony. But I'm not advising anybody to go and say, hey, come on, like, let's duke it out. No, just pray to God. And yeah, I had a similar encounter when I came to Jesus where demonic entities were plaguing my home and were terrorizing me.
1:47:51 And I didn't hear them necessarily audibly. But I had it transmitted into my head almost like a radio wave. Like a radio frequency. And it was when I was making the decision, like, I think I need Jesus. I think I need to give it all to him and turn to him. And I was still mulling it over. I didn't have that full conviction. It happened less than an hour later. But I was at the jumping point and I was about to take the leap of faith into the Lord's arms. And they, I remember distinctly, sent into my head, you want to follow Jesus? This is what we do to people who follow Jesus. And I had the worst imagery just flying through my mind of all of the ways people had been martyred throughout the years. And they said, this is what we're going to do to you. And I felt immense fear. I mean, it was like someone was going to beat down my door and drag me outside and just like shoot me up against the wall of my apartment.
1:48:44 I was terrified. But you know what? In that moment, when I gave myself over to Jesus Christ, they were gone in an instant. It was, the weight was lifted, the air was clear, and the fear of a martyr's death truly left me. And I can proudly say, and this is only, I can only do it through Jesus Christ. I'm not boasting of my own accord, but that fear of death has not been present in my life since that moment when I handed it over to Jesus. Absolutely. Praise God. Praise God. Praise God. Absolutely. It's amazing, Roger's story. And I could show clip after clip after clip of some of the stuff that, he's gone through. In fact, I think his daughter is in the chat. I think I was just talking and she said, this is my father, my dad. And I think that's fantastic.
1:49:34 I won't mention her name on the broadcast if she doesn't want. But I think it's really neat that this, this is a real testimony. And it's, it's a fascinating testimony because he truly lived it. And the spiritual realm is real. And I want to tie again, if you guys didn't catch this. What is the, what is the goal between these two clips? Of the rolling balls and the Roger Morneau clip? Well, what did Roger Morneau have? He had, he had pictures flying across the wall, right? Going to the other, hanging on the other side. He had lamps going and hanging in midair. The lights were going on and off. This is the exact same things that the UFO balls were doing, right? I mean, they were rolling around on the floor, you know, going from room to room. You know, they, it's, it's demonic activity. I mean, I, I'm sure that if, if they, I'm sure there's other stories, demonic stories, UFO stories about lights going on and off.
1:50:29 Them having access to and changing electrical impulses in the, in the lights or maybe turning off. What is that? What is that? Nuclear weapons of some kind. Right. They've toggled them on and off. Yeah. And so it's, I don't see how people can't see the connection. That's a double negative. How can people not see the, the, the, the connection here? It's, it's just amazing to me. This is exactly what's happening. And so. Yeah. It's time to get our Polaroid cameras out. No, it actually isn't time to get our Polaroid cameras out, I think. Because, uh, what, something that I believe is that when you start doing that, if you, if you start getting your cameras and you're like, I'm going to go and look at these things. Think about the theme. We're talking about permissions. Even Roger was saying there, that they were tormenting him, flipping the light switches off, doing all that crazy stuff.
1:51:24 And when he finally said what you want to talk to me, then he's like, yes, I have been able to talk to you. Now you hear me. Okay, good. We can talk. It's, it's a level of permission and it's like access granted. All right, good. So I do believe if you go out and you have cameras and you're trying to be like, I'm going to capture a UFO, but I'm doing it for a good reason. No, you just stay away from it. Whatever. If you see a UFO, then you just pray to God. Just pray to God. It's that simple. Open it up, start praying to God and it's going to be fine. I guarantee you the Lord is a stronghold. And if we just run to him, he's going to protect us from all danger. Right. A hundred percent. And if we do see these things, I mean, how did, how did Christ, uh, overcome? He not only, uh, prayed, but he also quoted scripture and that's how he overcame these, these demonic forces. And I think that's, that's something that we need to, uh, put our attention to.
1:52:18 Yeah. Yeah. I think that's something that we need to put full focus on. If there's something that, uh, has come to you as a dead relative, say, as we have seen out through testimony on this program, that these things do, uh, come to people as paranormal dead relatives or dead friends or dead, um, dead well-known people. We need to make sure that we have scriptures memorized that say that you can't come to me. Job says that the dead don't return to their house, you know? Uh, and all this other, all these other things, because it's very important to overcome by scripture, by the word of God. Do you have any, uh, any, any last, uh, last thoughts, Matthew? There was just one piece of scripture I wanted to share, and I was, uh, taking a look in Proverbs 8, 8.
1:53:11 Uh, all the words of my mouth are in righteousness. There is nothing forward or perverse in them. They are all plain to him that understandeth and right to them that find knowledge. So you're saying, how can these people not understand? It's so obvious. And, and to a degree, I agree with you. It, it should be obvious, but the Bible clearly states that unless you have the Holy Spirit, unless you receive that gift of discernment, you will not recognize this for what it is. You are in terrible danger of being deceived. And ultimately, paying the price of dying in your sins. It's a very serious matter. So I advise you, first and foremost, to seek God. If you draw close to God, he's going to draw close to you.
1:53:59 And it's going to be a relationship worth having. Absolutely. Absolutely. Will you pray us out? Oh, yeah, I will. Father in heaven, just want to pray this evening for our program going forward. I have a feeling that there's going to be some going to be more intense activity on the horizon. I anticipate that this deception is going to ramp up. And I want you to fill us with your Holy Spirit. Phil Bradley, myself, all of the viewers, the listeners, those in the live chats and the comments, bless them abundantly with the Spirit of truth so that we can go forward as true disciples and expose this for what it truly is. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Thank you, Matthew. Hang out for just a second. I don't have much time, but I do want to talk to you and we'll chat a little bit in the after show. Friends, I just want to thank you again for everything you do and sticking around and listening to us tonight.
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