0:00 Andrew, last time you were here, you talked a little bit about your testimony and seeing some very odd things, and I appreciate that because everyone loved it. I was a Hollywood cameraman for 25 years. That's what I did. I ended up working for the cameraman that shot the last four years of The X-Files. And even though I was raised in the faith, I was just totally seduced by the imagination of these other worlds. I just thought it was very interesting. And there was one night, and I just happened to just look up into the sky at that time, and I looked up at the sky, and there was this little circular thing going through the sky. We all kind of look up at it like this, and the last thing I remember is a numbness starting in the top of my head. The very next thing I remember is being down on the ground on my face and pushing myself up like this. I think a lot of people have seen some strange things, and I don't like to, and I know you don't either, guide people into the idea that there was going to be some kind of, you know, UFOs in the sky, but I think also that Satan can deceive us into thinking that this is something that's coming, and that there is something that might actually appear in the heavens. The Bible says that, that there will be signs in the heavens. So what are the chances that we might see something physical? Well, the great controversy talks about heathen deities manifesting their power in the last days. What are heathen deities? What did ancient cultures worship? They had like a whole pantheon of gods, perhaps. Yeah. They had like a whole pantheon of gods, perhaps. Yeah. They had like a whole pantheon of gods, perhaps. Yeah. They had like a whole pantheon of gods, perhaps. And, you know, with different personalities, different characters, there's a whole slew of fallen angels. There's a hierarchy on Satan's side as well, just like there's a hierarchy in heaven. There's an organization. So these things are going to be represented at some point, I think, in the last days with deception and spiritualism, when we see dead people coming back, which are not dead people, but are actually, you know, demons masquerading as your loved ones or as famous people. That's definitely going to happen. So I don't think the, the question is not really, is there going to be deception, is there going to be spiritualism and wonders and stuff, but what character is it going to be that actually will deceive even the very elect? And I think, you know, Hollywood has invested a lot of time and a lot of energy in narratives, you know, with thought. Not that everything would be the case, but this idea of getting us used to this idea that there's something that's out there that is intelligent, highly intelligent, and it's going to somehow interact with humanity. It's going to change life on this planet. It's fascinating how fast things are going right now. We need to get the information out. We need to tell people more about the truth.
2:26 That's something you and I have stayed in touch with, you know, since we were, since I was here the first time, talking about this, what we're going to talk about today is, as it's getting, as it's building up, it's becoming more and more precedent to talk about this, these issues. I do have a speaking schedule now on my website, the website, sanctuarydoorministry.com. Sanctuarydoorministry.com under speaking schedule, you can find out where we're going to be. I don't have the first half of the year right now, but the second half of the year will come soon. But yeah, no, I'm pretty much on the road like all every weekend to speaking somewhere too. Excellent. I think what really kind of caught our attention. Recently was, was Trump's statement, actually, that he just, he just made from the White House recently. That was it. Trump's statement and that he made that he says he's going to put out this information about this, this alien information. He actually even registered the domain aliens.org and alien.org.gov. It's a government website they're putting out about this stuff that they're going to release all this information on.
3:20 Barack Obama said that aliens are real. Have you seen any evidence of? Non-human visitors to Earth? Well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. So aliens are real? Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I can tell you he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. Well, what was he classified? He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information. No, I don't, I don't have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A lot of people believe it. Do you believe it, Peter? Well, the president can declassify anything that he wants to. So if you want to make an announcement. Well, maybe I'll get him out of trouble. I may get him out of trouble by declassifying. But what really surprised me is that the vice president came out and he said, oh, by the way, I believe all these things are demons. I don't think they're, I don't think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway, but that's a longer discussion. It kind of took me aback for a second because I was like, I guess my job is done. The job is to reach the government, reach the law policymakers, reach the people of the world and tell them the truth before they're deceived. And so I don't think the job is done yet. But I think that we're making amazing headway. And just your testimony alone brought in so many people that have said, yeah, what he experienced is not abnormal. We've seen this stuff before too.
4:38 Praise the Lord that the idea is to expose the darkness. That's what we're supposed to do. We need to let people know what's really happening. Steven Greer is known in the community. And he's also says one of the deception is going to be is that these are demons. UFOs, if they can't turn them in, invading aliens, they'll turn them into demons or something. Which is kind of interesting. You're flipping it on its head. So Greer said this. Yeah, Greer said this. And I think it was at the, I think it was a video where he was caught at LAX, you know, with somebody on a, in a vertical, you know, like a phone interview, like on the spot kind of talk with him. I think it would upend people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old and we wrote dinosaurs. I haven't seen that video. I know if I have it, I forgot about it because I know Greer is very caught up in communication with these things. Yes. He believes that there are 95 things. He believes that they're benevolent and that we need to protect them and all this other stuff.
5:31 Protect them. That's what they, no. Wow. Yeah. Okay. If you really understand what the truth is, it's, that's, they're powerful beings. Nursing Rosemary's baby. Yeah. Greer's not on her side, but it's. No. You know, but I mean, there's so much history with it. I mean, it, there's a wide range of people's interactions with these things, whether it's actually just seeing it or whether it's communicating, you know, Bedslow, you know, with, with Hathor, the woman and all this. Oh, Bledsoe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bledsoe. Yeah. So, so the things that are supposed to happen, but don't happen. It's constant tease, but pull back, tease, but pull back. Suddenly, you know, these reports of drones everywhere. We don't understand. And then suddenly it's gone. And then like, did it really happen or not? And there's, you know, just it's constant tease, pull back, tease, pull back. And, but they're building up to something. Yeah. They're absolutely building up to something. And I think that, I think, I think one of the greatest dangers that we face with it, you know, when we think of these things, we think of mirages or ghosts or outbursts. Mirages or ghosts or apparitions. But what, I mean, this is what sucked, you know, me into just think about it as a conceptual project, referring to my testimony. I didn't think of it as a real thing. I just thought of it as, well, is it like, as a Hollywood person, I'm just making a story up. I'm just kind of creating a world that I'm going to live in just to kind of promote an album and just be kind of, just have fun with it, you know?
6:45 And then it becomes, it becomes more real. Like you realize these things are manifesting and they're not just like imagination. It's like something is, and I think when you talk about like Bob Lazar and something else, what's recently happened is Bob Lazar has done a movie with somebody where they've rendered all of his testimony of what he saw in S4 and, you know, at Area 51 and made it as if it was, you know, like documentary footage, which is a very clever use of AI. And it really will suck a lot of people in. So what's going to happen? Because I think what the thing is we have to realize there's a physical reality to this deception. It's not just something that you see and you could like push your hand through it, you know? You know, when demons, you know, it says at the, at the crucifixion. Right. You know, that the demons were manifesting as men to like egg on the crowd, egg on, you know, to hurl more insults. And even at the, at the Pilots, the trial in Pilots Hall, you know, it's like there were demons present. Yeah, stir the crowd. To stir it up, to keep it going. You know, if those men were there, you know, as demons showing as men, if you touched them and felt them, they would be real. I mean, it would be like a man. You wouldn't know what it is. So there, there's a, there's a deception that goes beyond just like, like an airy fairy image, right? There is something that also can be physical. Now, not just talking about demons, you know, portraying themselves as men, as angels came as men too, right? In, in stories of angels saving people, right? I think sometimes there's a misconception of what they're capable of doing. Like we don't realize what they're capable of doing. You know, technology that we have, you know, we are very clever. God has made us to be creative and curious and we figure things out. But there's also a knowledge that they have that goes far beyond their, their perception and ability to perceive things and know things.
8:22 Right. Goes beyond our understanding. So the knowledge that is, is, is held by them can be given to man and man can make these things. But also, you know, Satan is allowed, demons are allowed to physically manipulate physical objects. Why can't they make things? Yeah. Of course they could. Well, he can't produce life. He can't produce life, but he can produce, I mean, you, you, you know, inanimate objects are not life. You know, you can, you can, and you can certainly give technology or understanding for someone else to make it too. So we have to realize that there's a physical reality to this deception. So like when we see, like if at some point something becomes more obvious that there is a real spacecraft, because what, what's, what's going to be the deception? What's going to draw people in? They're going to think, well, you know, I think it was Stephen Greer that said that what's really holding people back or from this being released is that what it's going to, the effect it's going to have on the religions of the world. Yeah. How would this affect your belief in the Bible if you're not grounded? How would this affect your belief in any religion?
9:19 Right. When you introduce this thing that's not in the religion necessarily, but yet it's like purports to be. It's going to be this reality of what the universe is really about and who's in the universe and what's going on in the universe. You know, what happens, like, are you going to think suddenly, oh, okay, maybe Star Wars is more real or Star Trek is more real. And we're just one of those, you know, the prime directive planet where you can't go and touch them because, you know, they're not advanced yet. I mean, suddenly the Bible, you know, the Bible gets flipped on its head and it seems like it doesn't really explain the universe now. Now this reality, this physical manifestation, not just of something I saw in the sky, but an actual object that can do things, I'm interacting. What about the technology that scientists have been playing with? Allegedly, I guess. But if you have this S4 documentary, they're playing with all sorts of things that are like manipulating reality and bending light and things like, what I feel a burden to say is that there's going to be a physical reality deception. It's not just like an image or a hologram, but something that's physical and tangible that you can touch and feel, but that doesn't make the deception, that doesn't make the lie true. Right, right. And we see the example of that in scripture, of the physical becoming, of the non-physical becoming physical, because we see Moses, what has a staff, right? And then the magician said, yeah, we can do that. Don't worry. Then the Moses' staff ate, the snake ate the others. Yeah. Power of your God is a cheap magician's trick.
10:39 Janus, do you see? Moses' serpent swallows up the others. So I think it's, if Satan can create or seemingly create life, because I don't believe it's real life. I believe they're puppeting these things. I think that's another thing. What about the biological entities that they say they recovered? They say they have bodies, right? Well, that has to be, well, but they're dead, right? That's what they say. Do they ever have life? And so it goes into the thing where even some people are saying that these could be biological drones. You've probably heard that. Before we go any further, before people click off and go, what are these guys talking about?
11:47 This has been in Congress. I mean, this has been under oath from like David Grutch. If you go back and watch that, this is amazing stuff that someone would say, yeah. Under oath, people have testified of these things. House oversight and accountability. The committee held a historic hearing on unidentified anomalous phenomena. Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? Absolutely. Based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years. I know the exact locations. Biologics came with some of these recoveries. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human. And that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to. Under oath from like David Grutch. If you go back and watch that, this is amazing stuff that someone would say, yeah. Under oath, people have testified of these things. Yeah. Right. And they said, yeah, we actually have biological evidence of this stuff. And although they haven't produced, Joe Jordan would remind me, Joe Jordan is a friend of mine, a Christian guy. He works at the Kennedy Space Center. Not saying which arm of it, but he works somewhere down there. And he says that, he said, I've been researching this for a long time, not hundreds of years, but hundreds of testimonies that he's gone through where these things have disappeared in the name of Jesus Christ. But he said, look, they haven't produced, they haven't produced any evidence yet. I think that's what we're going to see. We're going to see the evidence and it's going to, people are just going to be dumbfounded.
13:06 They're going to be fooled. Yeah. They're going to be fooled because we will not be able to trust our eyes, our ears, our senses, our touch. We have to trust the word of God. That's what we have to trust. The word of God is the most important thing that we cling to, the faith in Christ. And not just saying his name, because that does have the power to dispel those things, but it's also realizing what the Bible said is true is what's true. Mm-hmm. And that's going to be challenged. I mean, it's challenged by evolution, right? It's going to be challenged by the presence of suddenly there's these aliens or something. Are they demons? Absolutely. But, you know, one person's demon is another person's alien. There is one reality. Yeah. Which one is it? It's got to be... Are you going to believe in experience or are you going to believe in truth that you've learned through the Bible? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Going back to what you said about the physical reality of things and how people like vice president have said, hey, by the way, these things are demons. What does that mean? I mean, I've wrestled with this a little bit myself because I thought, you know what, if I've reached at least the vice president on this or collectively as a group, we've reached out to different politicians and things like this. Is the work done? I don't think so.
14:21 We haven't reached people in the farthest lands that might be deceived by this. But if the president of the United States already believes, or if the vice president of the United States already believes these things are demons... How is it that Satan will do exactly what Roger Morneau says, which he says, spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets and galaxies coming to Earth to explain the impending destruction of the planet unless something proper is done to avoid it? Spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets and galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet. How is that going to switch over if the vice president is going, no, no, these are demons? I think he's going to have to define it and say, well, I think they're demons because of the terrible things that they do. And then when something comes and it doesn't do terrible things but it saves us, it's a savior complex, then that's something different.
15:31 Yeah. That is something different. Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, when I was going down that rabbit hole just as a creative project, you know, it was like, I thought, well, I'm going to, I'm going to start from the point was that they're already, they're here and they've already been here for many, many years. And I thought, but I mean, all the time I was raised as an Adventist with the knowledge of, you know, the fall in the garden and all that. And I was just kind of setting that aside, but I was just making, again, it was just a creative project, right? Just to, it was just, okay, ancient aliens and all this stuff. But really that's, you know, the two things are really the same. I mean, they're demons. They're from other, they're from another world. They're not from this world. They fell from another world or came from another place. So there's some truth in that, right? Again, so then which, you know, is it really a demon? Is it a savior? Is it, you know, and what is Lucifer going to do in the end? What does he want to do? He wants to bring all the world under, under a banner to worship him. The new age. He wants a new age. So I think a lot of way, and we've talked about this on the truth project, Matthew and I have talked about on the truth project. Like we talked about this, one of the first episodes we ever did together, we were looking back. You know, retroactively on the previous year, we talked about the Olympics and stuff and the, and the ceremonies, the closing ceremony. And it's like what, you know, you can see that they're preparing for some sort of an arrival or a birth of a new age, a golden traveler. And Satan's trying to basically get the world to accept him as the good guy.
16:49 I think that's really what it is to accept him as a good guy. And Luciferians truly, I mean, Roger Murnau again, his testimony was that those people that are involved in that worshiping of demons, they know that they're going to be a savior. And so they that they're involved in a great controversy. They know that Satan was the one that kicked out of heaven, but they just see it as politics. And they're just choosing this side in the argument. And they think that he's got a legitimate chance of getting, you know, going through with what he, you know, getting through with what he wants to do. Wow. And it's like, you can, well, if you get the whole world and get rid of, you know, suppress and get rid of the ones that are, that are against them and get the whole world in it, God will leave this world alone. So Satan can have his planet. I mean, that's what was said in Roger Murnau's testimony. You got to believe that. I mean, if you were Satan or his minions, or even the guys in the politics. You know, these guys that are in secret societies. You got to believe that God isn't all knowing in order to believe, in order to believe that. Yeah, you have to somehow believe that there's more of an equal thing going on. I mean, Sammy Davis, oh, boy, there's so many references to pull from. But like Sammy Davis, as spoken to, as spoken by Eddie Murphy with Jerry Seinfeld and driving in comedians with, getting coffee in cars with comedians or something like that. I don't know, some show like that. And he's talking like about, you know, Sammy Davis is, you know, Satan worship. Yeah. And how Sammy Davis believed that. Yeah, he said that, you know, Sammy, Sammy, he did a Sammy impersonation, Eddie Murphy. And he's like, yeah, you know, Satan and Jesus, they're like equals. They're like, Satan's more powerful than you think.
18:10 Sammy told me he worshiped the devil. We were in Dan Tanner's on that restaurant with all the pictures up. Sammy was like, you know, Satan is as powerful as God. And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? He says, why do you think there's so much anger in the world and killing and murder and Satan? And he saw my reaction. And then he kind of lightened up on it. And he was like, the Dan Tanner that's dark and he said, the candles on the table and Sammy's face over the candle. You know, Satan is as powerful as God. It's the, they're sold this idea that it's that yin and yang thing. It's the idea that there's a force of balance between good and evil. And they don't, you know, it's, it's trying to take away from the fact that God is all powerful and all knowing and kind of giving more power to Satan and then making more sympathy for Satan and for Lucifer, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, the world is going to be deceived and the world is going to be, say the thing, if you come along in your life and, and you're not loving righteousness and you, you know, you're loving iniquity and hating righteousness, it's going to be very easy to accept a savior that, that allows you to stay in your sins. It allows you to have what you want. And that's really what is do, do what they wilt, right? It's the whole of the law or Luciferian, you know, you, you can be good without God. You can find your own way there. Your eyes will be open knowing good and evil. So the more that we get close to God, the more we get closer in culture to that, accepting that, you know, to accept is that is the truth.
19:34 We will kind of choose the wrong one to follow. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Through culture, through, through this long seduction of, of what happens like with Eve at the tree happening over and over again with all of us, where we are deciding which tree we're going to eat from the tree of knowledge and good and evil or the tree of life. And you know, we dabble in that and, and we become accustomed to that. It's going to be very hard for us to change our diet. Wow. Spiritually speaking in that sense. And I think, yeah, he'll seduce a lot of the world in through that way. And, and, you know, the music business, you know, there's a lot of people involved in that. Some people unknowingly, some people very knowingly, you know, that that's the, that's what you're participating in. You're evangelizing the world. And some people are very, I mean, the, the artists that I was working with, I was clear, you know, in hindsight now is totally Luciferian. And tell me, tell me again how you know that. Well, because of the things that were said to me, uh, as I was working with him and the way that he was, you know, he was, you know, he was, you know, he was, you know, he was, the way that he, he looked at the world as it's coming to a new age and it's going, and he talked about, uh, his solo album, the names of his tracks on his solo album and everything that I was, it all kind of clicked together in hindsight. It's like, you know, he put himself as an emissary, as an emissary for, for something that's coming.
20:45 Wow. And it's like, whoa, it was, I mean, I didn't fully understand at that time what was going on, but, you know, in my testimony, people will, you know, refer back to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't need to retread all that, but yeah, I had some serious interactions with him. I had some interactions in that world, you know, dealing with, dealing with, you know, these concepts of reality, like why we're here and who we are. And that, that side of it is, is more than ready to come and provide you with some, with an answer. And it's a very new age, of course, answer too. So all this is tied together in one thing. So, so I think, you know, one thing that we hear a lot about is the golden age, right? The golden age is constantly being promoted, being talked about. It's in, in commercials telling you to buy gold. It's, it's in, uh. You know, it's, uh, I see it on podcasts, you know, the golden age of America, the golden age of travel. They're getting, you know, real ID and all the ways that we're going to travel in the future. Everything is golden age, golden age, golden age. We're looking for our brightest days are ahead of us. The golden age of America has begun and we are just getting started. It's a golden age like you've never seen before. Meanwhile, we know that the earth now 6,000 years into, into this dealing with the problem of sin on this earth. And things are waxing old. And things are, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, things are seeming to get worse and worse as in the days of Noah. And that's kind of where I'm going with this is like, what is, what is the real golden age they're trying to bring us to? What is it really about? Is it really just about where tariffs pay for everything? You don't have to pay personal income tax. Is that the golden age or is it something more than that? Because the golden age is something that didn't start with Trump.
22:18 It didn't start with, you know, the 1880s. It didn't start with that. The golden age goes all the way back to the antediluvian world. Oh wow. Because the occult world, having somewhat of a record, of course, from that time period from before, because everything was destroyed. We know only eight people made it through. We know that Ham apostatized and Ham gave us the Egyptian culture. So we know that, you know, some of that knowledge did go through the flood with the eight people, but the demons certainly that were there before the flood are the same demons that were after the flood. And the same demons that worked with man in the apostasy shortly after the fall in the garden of Eden, you know, with, with Cain. And then of course with the, you know, the first city builders and you go down to Tubal, you know, you go to basically to Nimrod. You have Babylon, all of those things, that's post-flood, but you have all of these people interacting with demons through all this time and you go, how would it be any different today? Right. So what it, so the occult world sees the golden age as the time before the flood. When, when God, when, when the gods, I should say, when the gods, the demons and man interacted and man benefited from, from their knowledge and from working with them. And I think the myth, you know, the Bible has types and anti-types, right? You know, David is a type of Christ. Moses is a type of Christ. The lamb is a typical of Christ, the sacrifice, you know, the sacrifices in the sanctuary. So there's types and anti-types. Satan has his own version of that. And that's like mythology and ancient religions, sun worship religions. And in there is the same archetypes over and over again, where he's posited as the good guy and the God of the universe, the creator is the bad guy. So you have the myth of Prometheus, which is a very, very important one to look at. Prometheus was a Titan, but he stole the knowledge from the gods. He stole the fire from the gods.
23:57 And he's represented as giving man knowledge and abilities and, and, and, you know, basically liberating him from, he felt sorry for man. So he gave man the knowledge of fire. That's the, that's the myth. So you can, anyone can look that up and Google it. So Prometheus is essentially a type of Satan. It's like, he's, you know, it's what those demons are, what did they did in the golden age, what they refer to before the flood. Do you think these myths, I mean, I even hesitate to say it, but do you think some of these myths. Do you think there's some form of truth to them? Well, let's, let's, let's look at Stargate for a second, because I mean, not that this is fiction. I mean, it's Hollywood, right? But you know, the idea in that is that, you know, that, and I don't, I don't, I've even watched the movie myself fully. I've seen clips of it. I just didn't, you know, I thought some of the costumes and some of this, that was just a little, I wasn't interested. It was a little too cartoony when I was in the world, but I'm familiar with the story. I mean, the TV show is very popular for a long time. I know somebody recently who was, he was an Adventist that when he was in the world too, he was caught up in Stargate and watching a lot. Oh, I was. You were watching Stargate too? Well, it started Richard Dean Anderson and that was my, like, the guy I really liked when I was younger. Well, yeah, well, he's a MacGyver, right? Yeah. The idea is that all the explanation of all those Egyptian gods and the hieroglyphs and the things that you see today in archeology was based on the fact that man actually interacted with these gods. They actually were there.
25:20 And of course in the movie it's explained as UFO, science fiction, you know, other, you know, teleportation through different worlds, through gates and things like that. So what do you have? You have a situation where, where the deception is primed so that when physical reality comes along in deception with physical, you know, things, it's going to start to seem like, well, what do I really believe now? Do I really believe this, what the Bible simply says or, or, or what the devil is saying is really the, the, you know, the reality around us with basically we're in a universe and there's all these aliens are coming and going and there's, you know, and we're, and they're the good guys and so many people could fall for that. So the golden age, you know, being represented in the occult world as the time before the flood, it's like, what are, what is God, you know, what is God preparing his people for? He says that as in the days of Noah, so we'll also be at the coming of the son of man. So as, as it was in those days, we're talking about men's thoughts were continually evil. Well, that's the thing we're talking about. Satan seducing our thoughts and our feelings to getting to a place where we accept him more. Yeah. We're in line with him. I mean, when, when Adam and Eve sinned in the garden of Eden, they were naturally at enmity with God. And that's the reason why there was sacrifice, you know, in Genesis 3 15, it mentions that when Christ would come, you know, he was to place enmity, he put placed enmity right there in the garden of Eden. It was ratified at the cross, but he put something back into the human race that had lost an apostasy and sin. So the Bible being an accurate, you know, evidence of what happened in the past is what's going to take place in the future.
26:55 Just taking what it says as in the days of Noah and that they want the golden age back is that there has to be a manifestation of heathen deities. There has to be a manifestation of a physical reality of this deception like it was in the days of old. And you look back in history, like pre-flood, we don't have a lot of pre-flood knowledge, but we have archeological evidence now around the world. And this is the stones are starting to figure this out. The stones are crying out that there seems to have been some kind of pre-flood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. That is somehow connected of the megalithic structures, all over the world that they have technology to make these things, and to make such precise cuts in stone goes beyond like what we can even almost fathom that we can do today. So even that ... well now, the answers they come up with, there is like again like there is cycle of civilizations destructions and then a rebirth, the reseeding of the planet, and that goes into the UFOs and ancient aliens. But really, if you just look at the Bible account, that the entire world was destroyed by a flood at once. You can see that whatever was on the earth at one time died all at the same time. And that's something you don't see in evolution. And that's why there's such great evidence for the flood when you really get into the archaeological record and you start digging down, you're looking at the ways that fossils are found altogether, different types.
28:19 I mean, it was a cataclysmic event at one time in history. So what was it like on this earth before the flood? What was civilization like where people lived for, you know, 700, 800, 900 years at a time? Where women, you know, they didn't hit menopause at like 55. They would be childbearing for hundreds of years. What was the population like on this earth before the flood? That's true. There are people that have run the numbers on that. Now, that's another important thing I think I shared with you a while in our conversations we've had since we met the first time. We recorded together. It was that, you know, people have looked at that statistically. What would the population of the earth be? And they come up with roughly the same amount of people as we have today. Really? Based on the age. This is all based on what the Bible says. You know, how many sons and daughters.
29:08 There's obviously ones that are not recorded. Not everything is recorded. But just starting with the beginning and seeing, you know, from there, how long Eve would have been able to bear children. And then just any of her children would have been, you know, just one generation down from the one that was created by hand and the breath of life given. And by God, too, you know, the degrading of the genetic, you know, genome and everything. You know, it happens, but it's like you're very near the beginning. Right? So you're going to be, you're going to have lots of baby machines on the planet. That's basically what I'm saying. And you just basically just run simple numbers. And you come out to billions and billions of people on this earth at the time of the flood. Wow. So then you look at the record and the megalithic record on this earth and you find things in Japan. You find things all over in Africa. You find things, you know, Mesoamerica. I think you could even find stuff there where these structures that are just not explained. They seem to be very plain with not a lot of markings.
30:04 But yet the ability to have made those things goes beyond something, you know, than the ancient cultures had that we have a record of post-flood. Now, you're talking like metal structures that come out of the... Not even metal structures, but stone structures. So stone structures. Stone structures, yeah. What do they look like? Well, there's the Assyrian. That's the one thing in Egypt where they're talking about. They're talking about the Assyrian. These sarcophagi, or what they thought was sarcophagi, but they're not really. They're sort of... And they're just... They had abilities after the flood because these were, you know, these were people that made it through the flood. The antediluvians, the ones that survived, the eight that came through, you know, they had a lot of knowledge and ability. So, I mean, Egyptian culture took a... I mean, they knew some things, you know, ancient batteries, technology that came out of the time. So, but how much of that knowledge really was really actually from before the flood? Mm-hmm. So, when you see... Unexplained ancient civilizations that people are sort of...
30:56 And again, these are freely... You can find a lot of these on YouTube, and these are not like speculation. These are actually evidence of things that people have been finding over time. The reason why it doesn't really make the mainstream is because when you start to pull those things together, it always points to a great cataclysmic thing that happened on this earth at one time. And what would any Christian say at that point, or anybody that knows anything about the Bible? Well, then maybe the flood's true. Maybe it's real. Maybe the flood is real. Well, it is real. Yeah. And we know that it was about, you know, roughly 2,000 years or so before the flood. We don't know exactly how many years it was before the flood. We don't know how long it was in Adam and Eve were in the garden before the temptation took place in the fall. So, we don't know everything about everything. But we know that hundreds... We have the genealogy in Genesis. We know that for a few millennia, at least a couple millennia, roughly, that we have had people on this earth.
31:49 And they had, you know, they were in their prime because they had just been created. They had just been created by God recently. So, I don't know. All these things point to the Bible. It does. You know, Spirit of Prophecy, there's many quotes in the Spirit of Prophecy where Ellen White speaks of this time where, you know, they didn't have to write everything down because everything that they ever learned or heard or said, they could have recalled. They could remember. How diminished are we today with the TikTok video, you know, with attention spans from that? I mean, we're so dependent on... And the more that we use AI to ask questions. I remember... I used to remember all my... I used to remember all my phone numbers when I was in Hollywood. I know. I had a pager. And it's like, I would remember everyone's number. I'd go to a pay phone and return a call. And I got this page. And I could dial up anybody on my list. I knew the cameraman. I knew the other assistants I was working with. I knew all their phone numbers. And then I finally, like, broke down and started putting phone numbers in my phone because it was convenient. Next thing you know, I'm, like, forgetting everyone's number. Yeah.
32:44 And I think, you know, I used to use a Thomas guide. I used to get around to the sets and the locations. You know, they would give us a map. And I used my Thomas guide. And, you know, sometime in the middle of the night, you're driving. And there's, like, the roads cut off. So I got to find my way all the way around somewhere in the back roads of Ventura County or something. And I got to stop at the side of the road and take out my, you know, AGHGH on this page. It's like, that's how we used to get around. And then you put the navigation in and the map, you know, on your phone. It's like, now you don't know where to go. Now you have to always have that thing out. Unless you really are there for a while and you learn the lay of the land. But it's like we become so dependent on technology. And I think back in those days, you didn't need computers. It wasn't like that. The mind was actually strong enough and still close enough to the time that you were, you know, where you came from in creation. That, you know, what was man capable? And then you have the golden age that the occult refers to as all these demonic things working with humanity and benefiting them.
33:40 So what do you think was capable? A lot more than we probably realize. And the spirit of prophecy kind of hints towards that without giving us too much information. So, to me, all these things that I'm seeing today all point to the truth in the Bible. And that Jesus is coming very soon. Because as we see these things on this earth, we know that it's waxing old. And as in the days of Noah, so will also be at the coming of the Son of Man. It's going to happen. I wish we knew a little bit more about what happened during the times of Noah. But, I mean, I think the Bible gives us... Well, no, in a thousand years in heaven, we'll be able to look at the record and see everything. And not just the lives of the men that lived back then, the women, whoever it was, but also the demons. You know, the fallen angels, their record will also be, it says in the Corinthians, that we're going to judge them. So, we will actually one day see the history of everything on this planet through the 6,000 years.
34:34 But now we see kind of through a glass dark where we don't really see everything. But we have enough evidence that... Do it again. But we have enough evidence today to see that, you know, even the stones are crying out. That there was something that happened where the whole earth seemed to have a similar level of civilization and culture. And it all got wiped out at the same time. I think AI is kind of preparing us, you know, in a way for... For sort of like the supernatural interaction, too. Oh, yeah. I mean, you had a Ouija board where you could ask questions and it will give you answers. And it seemed to be miraculously accurate or whatnot. And clearly, I think anybody realized, okay, well, things don't move around on their own. That is supernatural. But now when you ask a computer, or it's not really a computer, you're asking a large language model or, you know, a bunch of operations running at once through a program, you know, and you get answers back.
35:25 You know, how do you know? Right. How do you know? Because especially some of those answers aren't just about facts. Because even the facts are wrong. Right. Because you can fact check AI and you can see that AI sometimes hallucinates or gives you totally wrong things. And they go, oh, yeah, sorry, you're right. You know, that happens all the time. So it's like, what are you dealing with? You know? But, I mean, especially when AI can sometimes become more personal and philosophical, you start to think, well, how does this really work? Because, I mean, life, only God can give life. So if I'm really interacting with something that seems alive, what am I really interacting with? I know this is getting really deep into it, but my philosophy, my idea about LLM, large language models, is that our brain has a portion that helps us understand and identify quickly what the next word will be in our sentence.
36:16 So we don't have to really think about it and we can get it out there really fast. That's a small portion of what our brain's doing, that large language model. Yeah. That's like this section. That's like this section right here, you know? Right. It's not like the entire consciousness. It's guessing. It's guessing. I mean, you see this in search engines. After a while, you know, you can also, you know this from your, you're talking around your phone, your phone hears you and you go to a YouTube search and you start typing and it's like, miraculously, it starts filling in words of the kind of thing you were just talking about. So it's listening to you. It's always trying to, it's predictive, right? It's trying to be predictive modeling to be quicker to quicker to get answers for you. Yeah, yeah. And I don't think, I don't think it's conscious. I don't think we're going to get general consciousness. No. No. No. No. No. I think a lot of people think that and they're going to suspect that since this thing knows, not knows, but it's capable of giving us right answers enough that it's, I mean, Elon Musk has said this. Many people have said this. It's going to be the God we create. What does that make us if we create a God? It makes us gods ourselves. Right. And which is the whole mythology that we've just talked about. Right. From the Garden of Eden. We're talking so much about paying attention to like what the deception is so we're not fooled by it.
37:22 But we have to be careful not to be drawn into it. To partake of that as entertainment. Because what's happening is that you're opening doors, you know, like by the music you listen to, the movies you watch, you're opening doors for those things to have interactions with you and to play with you. And so like that's why it's important like to get, you know, the music out of the house, cut those things off your television. Don't have a television. You can get away with it. You know, to basically stop the enemy. Because the avenues to the soul are the senses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so what we partake in, in daily life, what we watch, what we read. What we spend time on. That is how the enemy gets in. He's not allowed to just come in and take over you. It's through a long process by which you open the doors to him. There's a Pentagon official that actually came out and said that he watched the UAP declassified files so much that he started to have anomalous activities in his house. Kind of like Bigfoot.
38:16 Yeah. People get all like, oh, Bigfoot, Bigfoot, Sasquatch. And they kind of follow this. And then weird things start happening in their lives. I know there's people that we know, I think, together, mutually from the community. That had a Bigfoot thing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and so it's like you're playing with fire. You're playing with demons. And I think, and so to go back to what we started with, the physical reality of the deception is going to be so powerful and so overwhelming and strong that it's going to really pull a lot of people into just seeing like, well, we're just observing reality. When in, you could also, when Christ says there's going to be false Christ and false Messiah. Don't go. Don't go to see them. Don't talk to them. Don't, you know, so that's the thing when there's all these drones in the sky and all these things. I mean, sometimes, you know, I'll see, well, this is what's going on. But you know what? When you think about, what am I watching? Yeah. I'm going to seek this thing out. I'm now watching demons, you know, putting on a show. So now I'm partaking of it, you know, directly. So we have to be really careful that these things don't distract us. And I, you know, I think people think that I, this is my, my, my, my gig.
39:13 It's not. This is not a gig. This is a deception. I do this maybe once a week. And then, and then just like, just say Enoch. It says, I think it's Spirit of Prophecy. Enoch went down to the city once a week. Talked to the people about something and left. And so the rest of the, the rest of the week, I'm a real estate agent. I'm not, I'm not researching UFOs. You are definitely a real estate agent. I know you enough. You are a real estate agent and you're good at it. So, but I, and for me, I mean, my whole ministry, the time I spend full time doing what I'm doing is about the sanctuary, righteousness by faith, Bible study training, Daniel and Revelation, understanding prophecy and how the Bible explains itself. That's my ministry and that's my passion all the time. But I know. I know that for when I was in the world, these things had their hook in me and I don't want anyone to be deceived by this. I want to give as much testimony as I can to turn what, what happened to me into a blessing for somebody else to know, to get out of it and what the truth is.
40:07 Yeah. Yeah. Don't dig too far down to this. No, it's not worth it. It will, it will lead you in the wrong direction because it's just curiosity. That's what happens. You become curious with something. You become curious with new age. You become curious with meditation, become curious with these things and they slowly pull you in. And it seems like it's. It's not that big a deal. It's very natural. It's holistic, but you get to a point where things start to happen and then, then you don't know what's, you know, what's real anymore. You get confused and you, maybe this is God. Maybe God is helping me through this. Maybe. And you don't, you know, don't do it. Stay out of it. I've talked to so many people that have blended spirituality with the Bible. They said things like, well, you know, I, I believe in God. I'm a born again Christian. I've been saved. They, they, you know, you use all the, the, the cliche phrases that many Christians have, have come across.
40:59 And then they say, and by the way, I do feel that there's a bad vibration in here. What? You know, you know what that began from? That was from the very beginning. So the mystery religions, the mystery religions, that was something that started creeping to Christianity very early in the first centuries because you had a lot of converts, Gnostics and others and Greeks and that, that were hearing and accepting the gospel of Christ, but they were holding on as much as they could. They were holding on to the gospel of Christ. They were holding on to the gospel of Christ. They were holding on to the gospel of Christ. They were holding on to the gospel of Christ. And the same way the Jews are trying to hold on to circumcision and, and you know, keeping the feasts and all that, the Greeks, you know, not always fully converting and the people from, so in early Christian times, I'm going to say, maybe so much in the first century, but I know there's evidence, you know, from, well, kind of in the, for within the first century, going into the second century into the third of, of basically people trying to blend the practice of mystery religions with Christianity. That was something that took place because where we see that today is, you know, there's actually the Pentecostal experience because the Pentecostal experience is in some ways really comes from the ancient mystery religions where there was an ecstatic experience. There was like an unexplainable, you know, excitement or, or sounds or, or things that were seen or experienced that was evidence or tokens of your connection with this power or, and, and they were trying to blend this with Christianity.
42:17 Yeah. And this happened very early on in Christianity. And so it wasn't just Sunday sacredness that was creeping because people were always trying to, you know, trying to sneak Sunday in there, the eighth day and all these other things that were happening. And, and it was, you know, it didn't really fully come to fruition until later. And, you know, when you declared the day of the sun and then, you know, with 321 AD with Constantine, but it was this constant, you know, Satan was constantly trying to poison Christianity by mixing in syncretistically mystery religion practice. So yeah, that's, that's where that comes from. And again, Paul was dealing with tongues and people babbling in tongues back then. Yeah. Why? Because it was leftover from the ancient cult. All from the mystery religions of like ecstatic experiences and stuff. And, and this was to be all different. This was about faith. This wasn't about, you know, your experience of sensation and feelings, but this was a deception from the beginning. A hundred percent. Yep. That's, that's it. And I think this, all, all this stuff is going to kind of grow. It's going to become bigger and bigger, much faster as, as we get closer and closer.
43:15 Because Satan is going to realize his time is short and, and, and he already does. And so we're seeing that, I believe right now. We're seeing that. There's a growth out of that. And I think there's going to be a, a, a surprise that's going to happen here in a couple of years. I truly believe that. I think, I think we're at the, at the point where people are going to start saying stuff. There's a great quote. Is this time to put up a laptop? Put up one? I don't know. I don't want to just put up one for one thing. But there, there's a quote that she talks about. There's a quote in the Spirit of Prophecy that talks about that the, the, the confederacy and all the plans of Satan is, is, has been developing to prepare for the end. For the great. The great deception is far more advanced and further along than we realize. And all he's waiting for is the perfect moment to bring it to open fruition. To openly, you know, begin the opening part of it so that it would deceive the world. So they're far, that's what the Spirit of Prophecy said back in, you know, the late 1800s, early 1900s.
44:11 Is that this is, Satan's plans are far, far more advanced than we realized along the way for this deception. The Lucius Trust Group. I think we, Matthew, Sean Shea and I did an episode about the Lucius Trust meeting last year. Last year in July. It was kind of the end of June into July. And we had some, we did an episode. It's probably our most watched video. It was like 160 some thousand people watched it. It was audio from with inside these meetings where they're talking about the coming one. And it's all this kind of creepy new age language. There, this, this is something that they do every 100 years on the 25th year of the century. You know, so, you know, 2025, 1925, 1825, 1725. On the 25th year of that century, they have these meetings and it's all about planning for the coming, for the coming one. Lucas Trust has these meetings, or are you talking about the... Yes, this is, this is, the, well, yes, Lucius Trust had these meetings.
45:00 It was, it was on their website that the audio came from. It wasn't some super leaked audio. It was actually buried on their website where the audio came from. But they were basically, that was the last meeting before the, you know, to reveal the hierarchy. You know, to plan for the revealing of the hierarchy to be revealed before the coming one. So, in 2025 was the last meeting that they had to prepare for the coming of Satan as Christ. I had always heard that. It's spiritualism every 100 years. I think Morneau says this. Yes, yes. You know, it's the same, you know, it's the same thing Morneau says in his testimony. So, so is it like a parallel meeting between... No, no, it's the same one. It's every 100 years they have these things. They have it with Lucas Trust? I think there's different levels of the meetings. It's kind of like when you go to a, it's kind of like when you go to a conference and there's breakout sessions and things. I don't think everybody is involved in necessarily right there with Satan appearing in front of them.
45:50 But there is things in regards to what Morneau testified to. Is that, you know, when those higher people up in those meetings, you know, that, you know, there was an open dialogue and planning of coordinating, you know, the Confederacy of Men for this plan that he's going to execute. That's just, it's just there. I mean, that's what's happening. So, for us as Christians, for some of the Adventists, we should be more assured than ever before that what God says in his word and that the spirit of prophecy, what Ellen White was giving God's people at this time specifically to get through this time, all that stuff is so important to pay attention to and to not disregard any of those counsels. That's the only way we're going to make it through this time is to actually really, truly believe exactly what the word says and believe in the testimonies. 100%. Otherwise, we will be deceived. 100%. Andrew, would you have prayer for us? I think that's a good place to end. Yeah, let's close with that. Father in heaven, we thank you so much for everything that you've given us.
46:43 You've given us plenty of information. You've given us your word. You also gave us your son. We ask, Lord, that we would believe unto salvation all the things that you've told your people and that we would not be rebellious in this time. Seeking friendship with the world, but rather getting ready to come out of the world fully. We thank you, Lord, for hearing our prayer. Lord, we pray for your church. We pray for your people to awaken, to be ready for your soon appearing. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen.