0:05 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.
1:07 The mission of InSight. The A-tip was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. Saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is.
1:58 He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic, and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky. And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere.
2:56 And then they, on the morning they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension, saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Lou Elizondo. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the U.S. Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively.
3:51 I, uh, I started to have these follow on. Experiences with the phenomenon that was like the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night because my job was classified and I had access to classified. Um, I was kind of aware this was not a one off event for the Navy. This, uh, these things happen frequently all the time. They happen all the time. Barbara. Barbara Betholick, Whitley Striever, both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative. In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft.
4:49 These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I was involved with. Occult practices for almost a full decade and, um, after my conversion, if you will, I felt it, I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is, that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was just a hallucination or a, to be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. Yeah. That's my understanding of ghosts, any, anything of that kind of story. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't.
5:47 Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So. We need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe. Because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us without, separately without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow.
6:40 There is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye-opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system. It's different than a religion, but it's religious-like. What they're seeing in the sky today is what they believe to be advanced technology. Whereas 1,000 years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel or maybe that's a demon. Today, they look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people. Almost like a religious conversion experience. It changes their worldview.
7:34 It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally, completely changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. My name's Tom DeLonge. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs. And the papers today, without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats.
8:31 And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. There is a very, very... There's a very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man, period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. We've passed the 11-minute mark. Now T-minus 10 minutes. 54 seconds on our countdown. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome.
9:22 And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny, our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently, that invite extends even to Martians. Over the next 10 years, we're going to be able to get baptized. We're going to be able to get baptized. We're going to be able to get baptized. We're going to be able to get baptized. We're going to be able to get baptized. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
10:28 This is documented evidence. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. Then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. And the funniest one of all was against what he called alien. And over and over and over, during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card and remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. Are there other religions? I'm curious, David, that you know of in all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea?
11:24 Yeah, I would say there are, you know, Hindus and Buddhists, you know, Tibetans or whatnot. The idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that, I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs, particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition, they have UFOs. UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, too, is that UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years. Mormons, as well, believe in extraterrestrial life. And, I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern-day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give me is true?
12:17 Yes. Yes. The truth is the truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help you God. You are saying to the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S. government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone. Absolutely the data points empirically that we're not alone, yeah. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found... Through interviewing myself and the subjects and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant on who they were, they found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence?
13:19 Yes. I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations. I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we would like to say in our language. Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting?
14:14 And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, I think they are very real, but I think what is your idea of reality? That's the question. You see that the DOD and NASA, even. They're all hiring. Yeah. They're hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue, and that's not where the truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, philosophy, religious studies.
15:14 That's where you're going to find the truth of this. But I don't think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people call angels. I think they're messengers. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. We're now passing the four minute 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. Yeah. And the priest told us, could I have a little bit more of your time, I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grand plan for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil.
16:08 And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grand plan is going to take people, people are going to eat the stuff because he says spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies. They're coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. It was a big thing that was coming up. One of the major deceptions of the last days. Well, that wasn't the right button. Good evening folks. We have an amazing show tonight and let me tell you, everything is coming up, everything's going down and you're going to be here for an amazing show. Joe Rogan says they're demons.
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20:12 Welcome. Welcome back to another strange normal where we talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And if this is the first time you're here, you're going to wonder what in the world we're talking about tonight. We got a short 30 minute, uh, produced piece that you need to see called star fall, star fall, movie.com, where you can understand exactly what's going on, uh, right now. I mean, it was produced two years ago and it's still relevant today. We're going to update it here pretty soon, but you need to know exactly what's happening. And we're going to talk about it. We're going to give you the updates to how, how this is producing constantly on this channel every week, every other week, depending on how things go. And we're going to keep you updated as we hit that subscribe button, hit that like icon and tell me where you're from. I want to see in the comments, not just the live comments tonight, but also in the comments below. Uh, where, where are you from? Where are we getting out? Is this archive getting out past, uh, my little house here?
21:09 Are we actually hearing other people? And uh, the more interaction I get. From you. The more I think, Hey, you know what? This is actually making a difference. I'm going to produce more content for you tonight. Before we get into the content though, I, uh, want to introduce our guests tonight. More like our cohost, Matthew. How are you? I'm doing very well, Bradley. Thank you for introducing me on here to the show. Yeah. Yeah. Are you, uh, are you ready for this? This is going to be, uh, something tonight because, um, we have a, we have an interesting, uh, few clips to go over. Uh, straight from mostly Joe Rogan's broadcast, uh, that he does and he reaches so many people and so many take advice from this guy who I, I don't know what credentials he, he provides to give out advice, but, uh, he had Posolka, Diane, Diane Posolka, I forget her first name.
22:04 Yeah. Yeah. Diane Posolka. And she was on the program and she has a religious background and she's talking all about how she knows exactly what these things are and she has some insider information about what's happening here. She's involved with NASA. She has been on some news broadcast. We want to know what is behind these ideas that, uh, these people are presenting and why is it relevant to us, especially us that are Christian and, uh, have a different understanding of what this actually is. Uh, we're going to get Brian into that, but what do you think, what do you think about all this? Well, Joe Rogan. It's fine. It's funny. I was just talking with a friend, uh, before the broadcast and we were talking about that, how so many sins have been normalized and we live in this age where people do things that before they would have just been considered out and out, uh, a bad thing for you to do, regardless of even a sinful connotation or not.
23:04 And I brought up Joe Rogan just talking about his normalization of doing, um, mind altering drugs. Right. Yeah. And, uh, this guy's always on his program. He's smoking weed. He's talking about DMT trips, talking about mushrooms, how we were, uh, once apes who went on a really good mushroom trip and that suddenly gave us consciousness and, uh, really a ridiculous thing. He's peddled the, the idea that Jesus was a mushroom too. Just ridiculous. But it's, it's funny that I'll be getting my dose of Joe Rogan here. Well, he's, he's definitely someone that a lot of people listen to. And I, I think it's, it's cause I, everywhere I go, I hear, well, you know, Joe Rogan's podcast, he said this and I'm thinking why, what credentials does he have to tell you advice on what's going on? I mean, it's significant that he said it, but he's not like Mr. Um, Mr. I know it all. And he just gives advice about what he thinks according to his life. He hits a sweet spot. You know, that's what it is. I think he, he asks enough questions and he has enough people, uh, that are considered interesting.
24:11 And he's inquisitive enough and he's confident and some of his own assertions, he has opinions and he believes the things he says, I, I think that a hundred percent. So I, all in all, I think it just kind of comes off as a unique show that maybe introduces people to ideas that normally they wouldn't, uh, they wouldn't think of. And it probably gives people in the workplace to something to talk about. Hey, did you catch the latest Joe Rogan episode? Oh yeah. He had so-and-so on. He was talking about this. Wasn't that crazy? It was kind of akin to, uh, you know, catching an episode of whatever TV show at this point. He's that popular. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it, that's how it all starts. So we're going to get into this because, uh, I found this particular episode very fascinating, especially with, um, a theology, um, uh, someone that has their doctorate in theology and, and she's, uh, saying that she has some insider information about all this strange UAP stuff.
25:10 That's happening in the news lately. And we're going to find out exactly what it is. We're also going to go over what, uh, she says she's had, uh, connections with NASA and they have donation sites. And, you know, I mentioned in the past that NASA thinks that, um, these, a lot of people say that these things are crashed and they have hit the ground and there's pieces of them and there's biologics, you know, you heard David Grutch say that in the, uh, in the, uh, news broadcast. Yeah. Yeah. So the majority of what I'm hearing, there's some of that, but the majority of it says that these things are donations and it has heavily tied to this idea of Prometheus. Have you, are you familiar with this concept? The myth of Prometheus? Right. Or yes. Yeah. I'm, I am very familiar. I think we touched on it a little bit before it was on an episode where we were actually getting copyright struck. We had to switch it over to rumble, but it was, uh, it was when we were going over an episode of ancient aliens, which I think is actually Prometheus productions, ancient aliens.
26:16 So yes, Prometheus, definitely that myth and that, that idea of that mythological figure, the God that gave fire to man and, uh, enlightened their minds and then the other gods got angry with him. You did a bad thing. Right. Yeah, exactly. And you're, you're cutting out. So I was going to pull in for you. But, um, it's interesting that they, they are saying that, uh, that this is like a Prometheus type thing because Prometheus is in the lore in the, in the, the mythology is said to, like you said, give gifts, give things, give fire. But they do that with strings attached. You do this, I'll do that. I do this, you do this, you do that. And it's like you are, they almost reverence them as a God. Right. So what they're saying is that NASA has donation sites, donation sites where they, they know to go get and collect things after certain things happen.
27:20 And there are certain rituals. This is amazing to me. This is amazing stuff because I, I, it's almost as if I don't want to even talk about this because it's too weird. It's too strange. But that's what this channel is all about. This is a, a safe place where we can talk about that and try to figure out exactly what is going on here. And, and, uh, and, and, and extrapolate. And extrapolate upon this whole concept because I believe that reality is much stranger than what we think it is right now. And that's, that's what this channel is all about. We're going to figure this out and, uh, we're going to pull into it. But first let's introduce Diana. I want to see why she has a relevance and what gives her, um, credibility in this. Let's just see what she has to say. You ready? I'm ready. All right. Let's start with Diana.
28:14 Okay. And please just tell people your background. Okay. Sure. So I'm a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina in Wilmington. And I grew up in California and I've always, I've always been interested in these experiences, but religion. And also I grew up, I was going to graduate school during the dot com boom. So I saw how technology was changing everything. Our schools were the first to adopt computers and that type of thing. So what I did was, um, I was very interested in. I was working, you know, what your parents, you tell them you want to study religion and they're like, why not be a doctor? Right. So, um, I was going to college, but I kept taking courses in religion and philosophy. And when I got out, I got a job doing technology and things like that. And I made all right money, but I still read about religion and philosophy. So I figured if I could get scholarships to continue that I would, and I kept getting scholarships and that's how I got my PhD in religion.
29:11 Uh, in, in religious studies, by the way. We actually were not ministers or anything like that. We don't advocate for any religious tradition. We study them. And since most people in the world are religious in some way, it's, it's a good thing to know. Um, but how did I get into studying UFOs? So I studied Christian history and that's what I did for a long time until I was what's called a full professor. You can't go any higher. You're full professor. That's it. And um, I started, I studied these things called ascent narratives. So ascent narratives are when people levitate in. The, you know, Christian tradition, people either levitate or they have, uh, they see things that they call angels or demons and things like this. And I always studied them from a historical perspective. And I found that going through, looking at these ascent narratives through the historical record at the Vatican, actually, I kept coming across aerial phenomena in the historical records from a thousand years ago, from 500 years ago from, you know, very recently.
30:09 And I recognize that this was happening in, in UFOs. UFO literature. And so I started to look at abductions and UFO sightings and things like that. And I, I wanted to do a cross-cultural analysis of this. Um, and that was in 2012. So she goes on and she talks about how that she found, uh, very interesting connections between these two things, where these ascent narratives, I don't even know exactly what that is. I didn't even know that was a thing in Christianity. I don't think it is, honestly. Uh, maybe it's, maybe you can speak to that. I'm, well, yeah, I heard her say ascent narratives and talking about people levitating and stuff. So the only, there are a few times that I can actually think of a true ascension that would be, of course, Jesus we're familiar with, he was, he was among his disciples and he ascended upward and upward and even they could physically, they were looking up at him until he was out of sight and they were standing around looking up at the sky until some angels came.
31:12 Okay. So what are you guys doing standing here staring at him? Okay. It's kind of time to get moving on it. Um, but there's also, uh, Elijah, he was taken up. He technically, that's an ascension, right? He, uh, he was taken away and his mantle was, uh, was left and I, those are the two that immediately come to my mind, but I don't, there's not, I can't think of that. Well, she was talking about levitating. Right. And that's what got me. I was thinking, I was thinking of ascent narrative. She meant by some kind of, uh, Eastern. Yeah. Meditative levitation. And I was like, this is not Christianity, but you're right. Of course there is, uh, the ascension of Christ and, uh, other, uh, those that are already in heaven. Yeah. I'd say that's, that would be the only legitimate thing I could think of. I don't know where else you would go to. I haven't heard anyone peddling anything else about, uh, people levitating necessarily. The Bible is pretty clear. It uses straightforward language.
32:12 And when something's happening. Uh, it's, uh, you know, you know, what's happening, the only time that things get maybe a little bit muddled would be with prophecy because there are certain symbols that are associated and sometimes it becomes hard for us to place, to plug in, you know, it's like a formula. You got X's and Y's and it's hard for us to plug in exactly what an X is or a Y is, but using contextual information, we can get there. Levitation though. I don't know if anybody knows about another levitation thing. Please. Comments. We'll have to have a group chat. I'd love to love to know, but those two instances are all I've got. So she, she started saying that there's, I've seen other podcasts from her and she, what she says is that there's some significant, uh, similarities between these two and she's going to get into that a little bit further as we go, go along in this narrative.
33:02 But first I want to see exactly what it is that, um, uh, that, that Joe is, uh, has a little bit of a, uh, a jumpstart on this. And he says, you know what? that I want to ask you a question and he asks why are these things happening at night watch this that I've always wondered I mean the thing that it's always struck me about the UFO experience particularly the abduction experience is that it always happens when people are asleep it always happens at night it either happens on the road when people are tired and it's late at night or it happens like why does it have to happen at night the universe doesn't give us what where the Sun is in position to with the planet that doesn't make any sense that all these UFO abduction experiences would happen only when the Sun is on the other side that's so dumb it makes no sense it's literally it's such an egocentric earth-centric perspective that and not even earth-centric hemispherical centric right it depends on where the Sun is right it depends on where the Sun is in position to the earth for that to be the only time that UFOs come I was always like this seems like horseshit there's something about it seems like horseshit but there's also something about it that seems real when you listen like Betty and Barney Hill when they're they're talking boy that sounds like people talking about a real thing boy that sounds like a real experience it really all right I'm gonna pause it there I miss some words but I think it's interesting that he makes a point that why is this happening at night oh I think to the world we they don't understand why this is happening why does why does things like this happen tonight well I think the Bible answers that question there is a verse in the Bible that says and I think Isaiah 29 15 it says woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord and their works are in dark they say who sees us who knows us that that verse came to me while I was thinking about that and I thought you know what there is not only people but also spiritual entities that they they want to primarily work under darkness not just physical darkness but also darkness as in the the idea that their works are darkness they are evil but anytime you have more you have more criminal activity that happens at night you have more more terrible stuff that happens at a more emotional state of society which is typically at night there's if you ever have been I haven't but if you ever have been to a AAA what is that called Alcoholics Anonymous where they try to get you back from being an alcoholic one of the things they say is avoid the night avoid when you're hungry avoid when you're lonely and there's one other one I forget what it is but there's there's halt I think is the acronym h-a-l-t and these times a lot of them happen at night this is when satan knows he can get you the best he has the most you are the most vulnerable so um stay away from that kind of stuff do you have any uh thoughts on that matthew it is it's a weird thing just our relationship with the the night and the darkness in general that there is this contrast uh i suppose some a symbolic contrast between light and darkness it's uh the good and the evil and why we do have fears of the dark and it is it's like you're saying people are committing crimes at night because you can't see them necessarily um and it's it's that fear of the unknown that i don't know what's lurking out there and maybe your imagination is is able to go a little wander a little bit but at the same time if what you're telling me about people getting into temptation surrounding alcohol which i think that people who are plagued with alcoholism there is a i i think a demonic oppression aspect to what you're dealing with i don't think it's necessarily just a secular kind of a view on it i do think that there is a spiritual power that's pressuring you to drink in excess and and that needs to be confronted through a relationship with jesus but the if they're going to try to get into temptation so it's a difficult thing to do so in a way that i think we know
37:45 that jesus did i think the people that he invited were going to come in with a spiritual but i don't think that they're going to come in with a spiritual знак because jesus is there in that church at night and to that time they're part of a party so they're not going to be there but they're going to be there if they're going to go and do something in the night and actually it's not going to be like jesus said it wasnt going to be jesus he was going to have to go and dispel the evil inside of jesus to spread what he had done and that's what the scripture says in chapter one chapter one chapter one chapter two chapter three chapter four and i think that the spirit of jesus in this chapter four and chapter five is that the spirit of man is HALT is hungry, H-A, I'm going to mess it up, I just had it in my head, lonely, tired, hungry, angry, lonely, tired, there it is, hungry, angry, lonely, tired, that's HALT. So, whenever you are in those states, watch yourself, because that's when the devil is lurking right over your shoulder. This next section, I think, is fascinating. We're going to get into something called flow state. If you ever heard of, I hadn't heard of flow state before, but again, I don't know much about the occult. And so, she's going to introduce a new character, a character that's in her book, this is what made her famous, I guess, is writing this book on religion and UFOs, and what ultimately got her on the Joe Rogan broadcast after several years, she's going to introduce Tyler.
38:58 Tyler is a member of NASA that got her in, and really showed her what was going on. Watch this. When I did American Cosmic, which is the first book about UFOs, again, which I never thought I'd be studying, I encountered this man, Tyler, and he works for the Space Force, and he's been working for the Space Force since the whole space shuttle program, okay? And he's a special kind of person. He's a mission controller, but he does a lot of other things, too. But he's also a multi-millionaire, space rocket scientist. I mean, just so strange. And I called him Tyler after the character in Fight Club, because that's who he reminded me of. He reminded me of that character in Fight Club, because he had this, first of all, he has more than 44 patents, and they're all related to space, and the Space Force has a special place for him, like he's special, right?
39:58 What I found was that he was practicing these types of protocols. I called them protocols because they reminded me of Plato and monastic traditions, the traditions of monks. They were all related to different things. So he would make sure that he got sunshine, he would make sure that he got plenty of sleep, he would not have too much caffeine, he exercised a lot, he boxed, right? So he was also a fighter, and he tried to stay away from people. I know it sounds weird, but that's what monks do. They try to stay, you know, they try to like monitor their input of people, because those people can actually take them off their game. All right, I'm gonna pause it there for a second. This is actually a longer clip. uh 24 seconds i think of this clip uh but i i i find that interesting number one because those uh rhythms or those those uh uh what she call it she at first when i heard that i was like oh protocols i thought oh no what is she going to go into is she meditating or something well i don't i don't at this point yeah i have heard of uh there being rituals at nasa but at this point she hasn't said anything that is typically occultic in fact a lot of these things i think are very good he stays away from caffeine he takes away he gets away from maybe negative people he he exercises a lot he gets out into the sun keeps his body healthy and less depressed all this stuff sounds really good until you get to the next part watch this matthew this is this is interesting here we go something like that but so this guy was put into a another mental state and during this mental state he said that he could receive calculations he could receive information he could receive things and then he he could gather a group of scientists and he wouldn't tell them where he came from because he honestly thought they were coming from um these things outside of space time kind of like ets or something off-planet intelligences which tesla also believed and are the people who started our own space force believed it so this isn't common knowledge that's what i found is like a lot of people aren't they don't know this history of of the american space force and the russian space force very much the same these people were doing these things and this allowed them you see this in sports right so people i was just using this example in a class yesterday i saw this basketball game two or three years ago with steph curry and you know the way they were playing it was almost as if there was an emergent phenomena that was bigger than each of the people because they somehow anticipated what the other guy was going do and I used to do sports and I know that this is something that can be done and there's a flow state right and I think that this is what Plato was trying to get his his group into through these protocols well that makes sense it's and one of the things that happens in flow state is that you stop being there that's right yeah it's not you yeah and you just experiencing this yeah yeah you experience it on stage doing stand-up right yeah you get it right you're on a ride like you're just like sort of like making sure that okay feed this into the machine and go and it goes and you're sort of like you're in tune with what you're saying but you're almost outside of yourself that's exactly right and you know there is science that shows that this is the case hmm okay all right all right what it's flow state okay so this is the first time I've heard the the word flow state uh two words I guess but this is this is interesting because I've actually already done a documentary on sports about what she just talked about and I went through several different prominent sports figures that have gone into this flow state where they don't even know what they're doing they're just sitting
43:58 back and really just watching themselves play we've seen this uh Beyonce even say this in her entertainment industry but if you and I want to I want to plug this real quick because Super Bowl is coming up here in two weeks and I think this is a very important thing even though the ministry that I I worked for hasn't plugged it at all I I think it's very important that we we talk about this uh if in in if you go down to the description right below this video right down here and hit view more it'll show uh my show notes and also the two I mentioned on this program you've got to watch both those one is called the greatest among us that's the sports documentary it is fantastic I'm biased of course because I made it but I mean it is a lot of research went into it and uh I think you'll be very blessed by looking at exactly what's happening here because this type of flow State falls right into possession that's what's happening essentially you do these rituals I mean it doesn't have to be amazing stuff I mean I think there was a uh a quarterback for Tennessee I forget the exact name Brady I forget his name but Tom Brady one of the most famous quarterbacks I'm not a football person I'm not a sports guy I I honestly that's what's uh this is this is amazing stuff that he said his wife was a witch and she would help him win these games and all he had to do was these little rituals and then have these little things and when he said he said that she had a like a little altar for him to set up and yeah he did he practiced witchcraft whether he was fully aware of that's what he was doing or not but yeah his wife advised him and even could say oh this is a good year for you this is not a good year for you and uh according to him she was right every time I think amazing it's a it's a sad thing because they're uh I think they're currently going through a pretty nasty divorce too so it's it's that's kind of the end of it as well as uh is this the sad state that that he's in well with his marriage he's made yeah sorry I'm just so excited about talking about this the the uh the the guy is so convinced that his wife was helping him do this and win that he got divorced unfortunately but because of that he also quit the game I mean can you imagine if you married a witch and you went through all this stuff she says I'm gonna make your life you're never gonna win another game he's like well I've I don't think I need to break a leg or ruin my life out in the field anymore I'm just gonna quit I mean that that's how much belief he had in this thing I I that's what I believe is happening right there and so he's quit the game he's divorced and you're talking about Tom Brady's quit the game that's what he said I mean this was the last thing is he back uh I don't know I think he's still play I think he's playing for uh Tampa currently I don't know I don't follow if I used to follow football back in the day but uh I think he was with the Buccaneers or maybe final season retirement no yeah that was the last year and see I'm out of touch man I know I yeah you know I don't follow it either I just I just was amazed when I was making the documentary that he was like yeah I'm good and I'm divorcing my wife who's a witch what yeah well go figure yeah maybe she would have hexed him not that you need to have any fear of those types of right of attacks if you're if you're it's not going to come near you but yeah if you're going to give it Credence here you think that it it has the power and you're walking alone then yeah you're free game it's a Satan's a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour so unless you have a very powerful being there right alongside you to ward that line off you're you're pretty much just a mincemeat yeah that's how it works and the way and the way he devours isn't always how you think most people think of him and he's gonna oh rip you apart and make it harmful he could devour you by uh just heaping on your the dark desires of your heart that's how he can do it he can he can spoil you rotten with sin and and that's the the way that he'll get you in the end it's very very crafty being we're dealing with on the topic of some sports people and having weird things to say Kobe Bryant um and this is this was about six years ago um Kobe the one that died yeah he died in the helicopter accident but he had done this little segment with ESPN where he was talking about his Muse cage and how he was
48:45 using like dark energy and dark emotions to make his game go better and it was like a little Muppet that was with him and the name of the Muppet was a little Mamba it was a little snake Muppet and uh it was really weird I might you know what Thursday is fireside well yeah we'll take a glance at that we'll do a follow-up because it's sports athletes in particular talk about this type of a thing where they do get acted upon and more than being acted upon even it's get furious get mean get angry you know haven't you heard coaches say oh yeah yeah like you know get in there and kill them destroy them it's like oh okay this is not we're not are we playing a game anymore or do you want me to bring a knife on the field yeah I know because I'm a little crazy with it but while I was doing that this documentary uh uh The Greatest Among Us uh the I was I went down to a little league game just to see if I was you know what's going on down here I want to get some footage ended up not getting any footage but uh I was walking home I thought well that was a nice and a little boy was crying he was walking towards me and his father was standing right beside him walking with him and his father I I will just remember this for the rest of my life his father walked by him by me talking to him saying next time next time that happens you punch him in the nose I was like boys what five years old and he was getting advice from his father oh my goodness what what what gets into parents in these games it gets in your own head sometimes well yeah with the competition aspect so I played a little lacrosse um and I remember one guy he did like a really dirty check on me and he didn't get called for it or anything so when it came time and everyone was like high-fiving each other I saw the guy punched him as hard as I could in the stomach because I mean I was nasty because I was just so angry at that guy for doing that to me and it's like what what good did that did that do you know it was just uh it was a shameful situation because it's like now on me oh you're you know this bad guy but I should have retaliated like that and uh if you're ever like I don't know if you're playing these types of games it's a weird uh a line because I feel like it can be crossed very easily by um from having fun to uh I'm going to have fun at your expense and that's that's the downside to it but anyway yeah yeah no I I totally get it that's that's exactly what happens and um I just want to acknowledge even though my lights apparently not working here uh a super chat real quick Joyce thank you so much for your super chat that's how we continue I'm gonna figure out during this next video why this thing's not working it should be working her but uh the if you I want to push it again uh we give multiple multiple multiple uh uh examples of this kind of stuff in that documentary uh the greatest among us and that's it's a link you can go down it's right there in the show notes in the little summary of the video and little text below you got to click on it you got to watch it especially before these two weeks send it to someone you know that is like that it does believe in Christianity and that is just obsessed with sports they'll get a kick out of it for sure it's very well well thought out and well produced so check it out um something else Matthew that is also going on that also gets into flow States is music and this is something else that they that they mentioned Jimi Hendrix you know that's the name that that name oh of course of course I know the name of Jimi Hendrix wait wait let's not get into it yet I'll talk about it afterward watch watch what they say here this is interesting yeah and the wildest thing with people what I always want to tell people about Hendrix and a lot of the particularly impactful people from the 1960s is that you have to understand how different the 60s were from the 50s like the difference between 2014 and 2024 is nil there's very little difference other than the ubiquitous uh technology AI things that are much more powerful than they ever were before the impact of social media but there was an impact of social media even 10 years ago right there's something about the 60s that were very different than the 50s and I connected to psychedelic use because all of those people were doing psychedelics all of them all those transcended people all the Beatles when the Beatles from their early days to the psychedelic days it was a completely different band like completely different style of music yes yeah that's right yeah completely different impact there was something about it what what what had happened in the 1960s was a stunning Revolution in culture yes and it's hard for us
53:39 to understand it because we didn't we weren't teenagers when that was happening you know I was I wasn't even born when Hendrix was in his prime or it was just you know a baby when you listen to that now it's hard to put it into context of how revolutionary that was all right I'm going to pause it right there because this this was only part of the clip I don't want to go back and watch what he says about Jimi Hendrix this this blew my mind that this guy watch what he says about his own podcast and Jimi Hendrix the reason why this podcast is called the Joe Rogan experiences because I think Jimi Hendrix is a religious figure he is he absolutely is I think I mean the guy died at 27 which when I was 27 I was a moron I had never done anything good this guy had transcended normal boundaries of what music was and had tapped into something whatever it was but when you listen to voodoo child to this day I've listened to that song thousands of times but like if I'm on my way to go do something cool and I listen that song like loud in my car it's just like it's it's there's he tapped into something that was just out of this realm inaccessible to the average person that plays a guitar inaccessible to the average artist he hit some crazy vibration and I've always got that feeling when I listen to his stuff it's it's always like moved me in a very weird way where I'm just completely captivated like immersed in the sounds immersed in his in his music me too um so he I think he well he knew that he was doing he as you know I'm sure you know this but um you know he had a guitar when he was five and he he was so good at it he was immediately like he it he streamed sacred information through his music and he knew he did he called it his electric church his electric church so this is Jimi Hendrix and they're going to tie this back to the UFO experience whoa you're popping off what do you want to say it's funny because I it's just what I had talked about at the beginning he's making drug use so attractive so he's saying these Pioneers they took psychedelics they were able to do things that they were never able to do he's not outright saying hey if you're listening to my show go out and do psychedelics but that's the message that you take away if you're say you're a musician I don't care if you're young or old and you're trying to break through you want a new sound and you're listening to the Joe Rogan experience this is going to inspire you to to seek it out and get there because it's like I want to have the breakthrough I want to be an influential figure I want to be talked about the way that they're talking about Jimi Hendrix Jimi Hendrix in particular uh he's right about him being tapped in it's just they use this language that's so Lacey and so frilly and it makes it seem like I was saying attractive it is not attractive because what he's talking about Jimi Hendrix was demonically possessed he had terrible demonic influence on him I actually pulled up a quote here this is from one of his former girlfriends her name was Fane Pridgen and she said talking about Jimi he used to always talk about some devil something was in him and he didn't have any control over it he didn't know what made him act the way he acted and he and what made him say the things he said and songs and different things like that just come out of him you know it seems like to me he was so tormented and so torn apart and he really was obsessed with something really evil this is so that's coming from a former girlfriend and um I do I want to plug the channel the good fight Ministries they have a short if you seek it out on Jimi Hendrix specifically from their documentary sold their soul for rock and roll which is very well sourced and well researched uh Jimmy is um yeah it was really a sad situation I mean look at the way he died 27 years old uh choking on his own vomit they're overdosing on drugs and not not a soul in the world that could care enough to be there and check up on you and make sure that you're gonna be okay I mean that's how you go out of this world and people are just fawning over him calling him a religious figure this is not a man to be worshipped this is not a man to be venerated it's it's a man to be pitied it's it's a it's a warning it's an example of the type of life you do not want to live because look where it ends up Jimi Hendrix I think was notoriously
58:31 a depressed person too like just when he was out of the limelight very torn apart and that's what these demonic entities will do to you it reminds me of hearing about Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys how he was being he was really inspired with all this different music and he said at a certain point it was like he was shut up in there and he couldn't get any hits out he couldn't do any music the way he was doing it before and there were these it was like these voices in his head saying you're nothing you're washed up you'll never get a number one again you're done and I I know firsthand as disturbing as it is I know firsthand what it's like to have those uh thoughts transmitted into your head it is very scary very depressing and you are it's it's like it says you're you're being taken on a ride you're not you don't want to think the thoughts they are forcing you to think but they love human misery they they hate us so much being made in the image of God and knowing that we could have Redemption through Jesus Christ and for them they've drawn the line they've set aside they're in full Rebellion against God they absolutely hate you it doesn't matter who you are if you think they're going to set me up with billions of dollars Platinum records and I'm going to live the Jimi Hendrix lifestyle you are going down a very dark road and and it just it ends in death it ends in death and misery and that is not what God intends for you right right I've also heard it said that I can't prove this any any way but this is uh I guess hearsay they they seem to attach to different individuals and and then that individual uh they don't attach detach from once because they have to kill them basically you want to be done be done I mean look at how these awesome people died awesome I'm using my quotes finger quotes like um uh Robin Williams terrible death I mean they're uh here's another one the king of pop what was his name um Michael Jackson Michael Jackson uh that now I can't prove this I'm pretty sure what's what's happened with Michael Jackson and from what I've read what I've extrapolated is that Michael Jackson from the interviews I've heard got a lot of inspiration from dreams a lot of inspiration from dreams and so he was looking for the next big thing and the realm that gave him these dreams wasn't gonna give it to him he was done washed up old that he was talking crazy on stage and so what did they do I stopped talking to him well he asked his friends who he had beside him to give him more sleeping drugs give me more give me more I need to sleep longer I need to sleep longer and now his doctor's what in prison because he gave him an overdose basically on sleeping drugs he wanted dreams that's what he wanted he wanted to make sure that he had the next big thing because that's where he got his inspiration from and that's that's that's how he got it it's a better way to go I think than these other guys but you didn't have to do anything we're we're totally off we're off topic on a rabbit trail but it's it's an interesting topic unless you have another thing to say I'm gonna I'm gonna drill on here no I want to see how they're going to tie this into the UFO stuff UAP stuff how how does this connect yeah yeah so um the way I'm not sure how I put that in but I I thought I thought it was a fascinating topic but basically they're saying this flow state is the same state as this UFO state that you get into how you pick how they it it makes you go into this state as if you're feeling I do have this clip somewhere we're going to go over it but you have this uh uh experience as if you've been here before as if you know these beings he's going to say that towards the end he's going to say that DMT that flow state in sports and that UFO experience is all the same experience and in an element he's right I just wish he could see the full picture and um anyways moving on I want to move into NASA crash sites this was amazing because if she really does have these um connections this draw this makes a lot of a lot of sense if we're talking about the whole Prometheus uh lore here um so let me drill on to here and hopefully this is the right clip watch this talk where I'm being you know people are asking me to meet you know people from these programs and from the Space Force and I'm actually not made a meeting with them because I'm waiting I'm I'm kind of thinking I've got to think this through um it wasn't until about 2014 that I actually start to meet the people like the affiliated people and they show me some things and they you know they they asked me to go to this
1:03:19 crash retrieval site in New Mexico no this is a recent crash no it's a it's like okay so this crash is part of a series of crashes that happened in the 1940s. Roswell. It wasn't Roswell, actually. It was one of the crash sites that's near. It's in New Mexico, but it's not Roswell. So there was more than one crash in New Mexico. Yeah, I think they said allegedly, yeah, they said that there were probably four, maybe even more. I don't know. What a bunch of shit UFOs keep crashing. I know, I know. That's what, well, they don't believe that they crashed. They use that term, but they don't, they don't think it's a crash. They think that it's, they personally, I'll tell you from a professor's standpoint, like their idea of this is that it's a donation. They call it the donation site. So they think that these were donated materials and they're going to get information and they do. And that's how Tyler was able to create a lot of, of the things that he created. Let's walk that back for a second. Who is they that she's talking about? Well, she's talking about someone named Tyler that she knows, and that, uh, that was working with NASA and he's very prominent figure in NASA that she talks about in her book, her first book. So she's kind of pushing her book here, but she's also saying, Hey, Hey, look, these guys reached out to me and I didn't want to actually go and talk with them. But I eventually, I begin to become friends with this guy named Tyler, who's not his real name from what I understand. And, uh, he, uh, is very high up there. He has specific rituals he goes through and he, uh, is able to do some amazing things through channeling or, uh, low state that he gets into. And he says that these, these areas that they've picked up things are donation sites that have been donated to by apparently the aliens.
1:05:13 I mean, if all this is what we understand to be true, as if there is definitely a spiritual phenomenon going here, just like Roger Murnau states, Roger Murnau states that there at the end of time, there will be, uh, spirits, demon spirits. Spirits declaring that there is, uh, they are inhabitants of other world coming to earth to explain of an impending disaster, unless something proper is done to avoid it. And there will be, uh, agreements and connections with these, these spiritual beings. If this is already happening on a small scale, where these, there are agreements like a Prometheus agreement, as we've heard in that, that lore, um, this would fall in line with one of those donations. So, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, uh, from Prometheus, that's what I think is happening here. I can't prove it, but I think that's going to come out here probably very soon. Anyway, what do you think? I think that we've been given a lot of different technology, uh, and if we haven't been directly given it, I think it can be inspired in man. Uh, I was thinking about the internet, ironically, here we are using the internet to get this message out a very good thing. But at the same time, uh, this is, They're some of the most nasty stuff exists on the internet, and it's right at your fingertips and I was talking about it the younger generation with somebody earlier and just how Sorry, I am for them Just the amount of things that you even hear that 11 year olds are looking at it's it's absolutely disgusting I can remember being 11 and The I wouldn't want to have any of those things in front of my eyes I Mean as even as an adult those things shouldn't be in front of your eyes, but I'm saying these kids are informative years and they're growing up in Babylon they're growing up in Sodom and Gomorrah and it's just it's a terrible thing so the technology we've been given I'm sure a lot of people would say oh, it's it's benefited us so much But there is a serious level of harm that's happened I think we could benefit way more from something like the internet if we were not Sinful beings if we were unfallen beings think about how great the internet would be oh there would be no Weird arguments that we would have we wouldn't have we wouldn't be slamming our keyboards at each other We wouldn't have have people who have internet addictions. You know there are people who really Can't go without the the internet. Oh, I could even though it's on your phone. It's everywhere. Yeah So I do believe that they have bestowed these Gifts on humanity, but I think just like if Prometheus gave us fire knowing full well Yeah, they can heat their homes with it, and they can see by the light of the fire, but the same time they're gonna burn And that's that's the kind of technology. We've been given yeah, yeah, I Liked what you said so much there. I actually have a clip About that segs way perfectly so you're talking about the internet you're talking about the the good and the pros for it and the Cons for it we guess who helped invent the internet Jacques the CIA Jacques Well, no, it's Jacques Vallee Jacques the prominent ufologist in the computer science, and so I would just just watch this This is this is interesting. I moved this up in the in the order for that reason Do you?
1:08:44 when they talk about inventions that emerged post Roswell, that's one of the points of speculation is that We have back engineered something and that this led to the creation of fiber optics and a lot of other Technologies that seemed to emerge after that time Yeah Part so this question was prominent in my mind in 2012 when I met Jacques Vallee So I was already aware of his work Even as a not a person who hadn't studied UFOs or even believed in them Jacques Vallee is just one of these people right that you come across his work and he's fascinating so I thought it was strange that not only was he a Person who was you know pre-engineered it ARPANET right he was on ARPANET which is pre-internet He's creating that at the same time as being Obsessed with UFOs and doing you know being a ufologist These things seemed that they had to be together right there's something that you know, what's going on here? So and I'm in touch with him often and He says a lot of things that are rather cryptic but sometimes I ask him specifically Was was what you were doing on ARPANET? related to back engineered UFO parts and Then he'd say something like there are many secrets in Silicon Valley Like that. Yeah. Yeah. He's real cryptic. He's kind of difficult to have a conversation with publicly Well, it does have a lot. I guess there are lots of secrets in Silicon Valley which is where he lives. Yeah Yeah well, it does have a lot I guess there are lots of secrets in Silicon Valley Which is where he lives. Yeah Another thing that was really fascinating about your book was you're talking about how much religion he studied? Yes. Yes That was really interesting. So in the book what I do is I uncover not just him but Alan Hynek they were friends and they were both Rosicrucians which is a form of he might not like me to say this but it's a form of form of mystical Christianity in a sense, but a lot of Rosicrucians don't view their roots as Christian. They look at it as Egyptian. But it's basically, it's an esoteric tradition, and it involves meditation. I think it most likely involves this thing that you and I have been discussing in the whole talk so far, is the pineal gland thing, you know, access point, because both of them believe in this kind of life, this meditating and things like that. And so I included references. Everything I say in my books, by the way, I pass to the person that I'm writing the chapter about. So everything that I said about Jacques, I gave it to him beforehand, and I said, are you okay with me saying this publicly? And so it passed all the tests. And I also talk about going to his apartment and seeing...
1:11:46 his library, which is an amazing library. And he has stained glass from Chartres Cathedral. And Chartres Cathedral is a special place for Rosicrucians, like a special place of presence of the sacred. And he actually did those himself. So he learned how to do stained glass from people at Chartres, by the way. And yeah, just amazing. And he had a lot of books on angels and fallen angels in that library, like almost... It was almost like going into the Vatican Archive, going into this place, because these looked like first editions or close. So, you know, really, really old books about this topic. Fallen angel. Yeah. I was pretty shocked when I went. We were going to have lunch and talk about the crash site and maybe talk about, you know, what I learned from Tyler and that kind of thing. And we went to lunch and then he said, do you want to see the library? And I was like, yes, of course. So I saw the handwritten documents from Project Blue Book, and that was just going into the library. That wasn't actually in the library. Then when we got in there, I noticed big bookcases of these books. And of course, I was drawn to them. And he said, he picked out one and he opened it and it was about angels. And he said, this is the, you know, this is a book about angels. I could see that. And I was looking at it. I was like, wow. And then I looked at the other bookshelf and that bookshelf was just as impressive. And then it was about fallen angels. He said, oh, this one's about fallen angels. And then he made a joke.
1:13:16 And he said, you can't have one without the other. And I thought that, yeah, I thought that was really interesting. That does seem to align with what we're talking about with like the struggle of good and evil. It does. That's what he said too. And I was actually shocked at that point. I was like, wow. So just, you know, I'm a professor of religion, you know, so I'm like, I'm right about, you know, my intuition was somehow confirmed. And by the way, I think people, I think this is totally true, but I believe he was the inspiration for the French character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I think so. Yeah. Which makes sense. Absolutely. Because Hynek's in there and then there's him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild stuff. I have to tell you a little. Okay. So I'm going to pause it there. Okay. So what we heard was he, we know that Jacques Vallée invented ARPANET. He was the pre-internet stage where you connect computers together. And she asked him, you know, did any of this technology come from ARPANET? And he said, no, it didn't. It came from donations, basically. And he says, well, there's many, there's many, many secrets in Silicon Valley. Boy. Great answer. Many secrets in Silicon Valley. Yeah. Well, the other thing too was when she mentioned fallen angels and Joe, Joe goes, fallen angels? Like he's almost as if he's never heard of that concept before in his life. Well, yes, fallen angels. You know, Satan, he was once in fellowship with God. He was not created in opposition with God. Iniquity was found in him and he chose to rebel against his creator. This, and they just, they love that this lie, they have bought this lie and they love it so much. And it's not just them. It's the Luciferians.
1:15:09 It's the Freemasons. I see this kind of thinking all the time where they say, you can't have one without the other. That is, that's not true. Actually, you, you can have one without the other. You can have God without Satan. Satan does, there's nothing about Satan that is somehow generating God and God is being sustained by evil. And like in order to have good, we have to have evil. No, the way that I look at it is it's okay. Let's go with it. Light and darkness, right? The, the light and the shadow. If you are standing outside of the source of light, you will then cast a shadow, correct? Well, what if we do what Jesus invites us to do and have total freedom? Fellowship with God. So we are in the light and we are no longer casting a shadow because we are in that source of light. And, and God has said, I'm going to remove all that is outside of this light source and nothing will be there, but a permeation of light. You have this weird yin yang philosophy and God does not need evil. It's just, it's, it's simple as that. And if you don't believe me, just check out the final chapters of revelation. Where there, there is no more evil and a new, a new heaven and a new earth. And there's no more suffering and no more pain. It's a, I guess it's a tough reality for some people to grasp because it does. It's permeated. Evil has permeated so many avenues in our lives, but there, there is going to come a time where there is, there's no longer any evil in our lives. There is no longer any darkness. There's no longer any fallen angels. There are just holy angels of God.
1:16:49 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Really to keep in mind. And, and to hear this stuff about Jacques Follet and his, uh, Rosicrucianism and stuff like that. Um, you know, I'm surprised that hasn't come out sooner. Um. Do you know, do you know more details about what that is? This is the first time I've heard about it from this. Rosicrucianists are, uh, I mean, they're essentially Gnostic. They have, uh, Gnostic leanings. And so anything that Jacques Follet is now saying, just think of it this way. He's a, he's acknowledged that this is a demonic thing or whatever. They're, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to paint those two sides of the picture. They're going to put, uh, good for evil and evil for good. So when Satan comes around, he is going to portray himself as the force of good in the world. And then God and his holy angels are the evil ones. So I just wouldn't be surprised if when Jacques Follet is looking out at the, the angel world, he is seeing he's colorblind, right? He's, he's inverting the color scheme. He's going, uh, oh, this is, this is white and this is black. And yeah, it's just a shame to hear that. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, but there are so many people who have bought this lie and they, they know they can't discuss it openly. That should always be a, a red flag, by the way, if people can't openly discuss their beliefs, if they just say, oh, there are many secrets, many secrets here in Silicon Valley. Oh, that's not sinister at all. Guess what? Your secrets aren't that secret because they're all known, known to God. God sees everything you're doing. Nothing is kept hidden. I don't care how deep you go underground, how dark you make your little ritual rooms and how well you cover your tracks. God knows every single thing that you've done and you are going to be made to answer for it. Wow. Everyone in Silicon Valley and across the world, across all ages, God, he is, there is an aspect of justice to God and we need to be very thankful for that and praise him for his sense of justice. A hundred percent. One hundred percent. And, I want to take a step back cause I, I, I skipped over the few clips here to kind of follow what you were saying. And, uh, I want to take a step back. She, uh, she follows Tyler to this site, to this, um, to this, uh, donation site. Now I want to show you exactly what was there and what she says about it in regards to the entertainment industry. This is, uh, this is fascinating.
1:19:12 I'm going to see if I can play it and play the right clip here. I have to tell you a little bit about how we came about this. Now, remember, this is the first book. I wrote about this. So I've written two books about it and I wasn't a believer. So when I went there, I even wasn't a believer. I was like, I think they're trying to give me misinformation or, you know, something's going on. Maybe they really believe this. Well, they both really believe this. I know that for sure. So we're there and we had to wear blindfolds in order to go me and Gary. So Tyler's taking us. Um, we drive to a certain place. He says, put the blindfolds on that. We had to leave our cell phones. We couldn't take any technology with us. And so we, we go out, it takes about an hour to get out to the site. We're blindfolded. We get out to the site, we get out, we're wearing different, we were wearing like, I guess, I guess there's rattlesnakes out there. And so we have to wear certain boots and, you know, things like that. So we get out, we take our blindfolds off. And the first thing I do is I look around cause it looks really familiar to me, even though I've never been out there. And Tyler looked at me and he said, looks familiar, doesn't it? And I said, you know, yeah. And he said, it's, it's, you've seen it in the X-Files. And I was like, what?
1:20:29 He goes, they had an insider on their team. And I honestly thought, okay, this actually fits into my research that, you know, we learn everything we, we do about religion from, from media. Like you want to know what, you know, Moses looked like. You just watch, you know, the 10 commandments and things like that. Like, it's not true, of course, but that's how most, most people learn about their, their religions. And so this made me understand this is what's going on. It's like people believing this through this, and then I'm coming to this and I'm going to confirm that it indeed looks like this, you know, and it is a crash site. It's just, it's just too weird for me, but you know, this is what I study. So I'm, I'm going to study. So I was working with, with Tyler. Okay. All right. Let's pause it there for a second. So, so she went to this site and she said, I've seen this before because, uh, the X-Files had someone inside her on this and we've seen this. What she goes on to, I don't know if I included it, or maybe she said it in here when I wasn't listening, but she said that, uh, the site, no, I don't think I included it. She said the site has a bunch of rubble all over it, a bunch of, uh, broken up cans, a bunch of, uh, metal that, um, that the government has said, you know, we've had some significant of stuff that has been dropped here that has a lot of different kinds of metal in it. And it has technology in it we've never seen before. And so they dumped it. They dumped a bunch of cans there after they picked it all up so that, uh, people that would come out there looking for this stuff, they couldn't find the unique metal because it had this, all these old sixties cans that had become rusted and broken up now. And so that was, that was interesting that she came out there. But what was the fascinating part to me was that she said that this is how we get all of our understanding about religion is through the entertainment industry.
1:22:18 Everyone, everyone. This isn't a new concept. This is what everyone, uh, understands that, uh, it, what you behold, what you look at is what changes you. You think that this is how Moses looked. You think that the, that the, uh, the Jesus in the chosen is how Jesus looked. So it's, it's fascinating. It really is. That's, that's part of what we're doing here. And I, like I said, this, this age that we're living in, it is, we are totally inundated by it. This is, um, this is part of my conviction on how I feel that we really are living in the very last days. It's the very end of time because the world is just saturated with this stuff and it's, uh, it's an all of the entertainment. People who don't even want to think about this stuff would never think about it, are subconsciously absorbing it through all these different sources and, and they're so invested in it that they infiltrate the different teams and they push the message. it's just a shame they work so hard for their team I think if anything it should inspire us to work a bit harder to spread the gospel message really and to put out the truth because man people are just getting swamped with this stuff and can you imagine if a large religious entity a religious group came out and said we've known this for a long time and we have lots of records on it you know where I'm going with this what group could you be talking about is the Dalai Lama going to come out with this Brad is some Tibetan monastery going to come out with this this is happening this is going to happen in our lifetime I think we need to be prepared for it watch this clip this is amazing so I was working with Tyler and I was scheduled to go to the Vatican and it was at the Vatican where we encountered where a lot of things happened for Tyler that I saw made him understand that this was something that had been going on historically for a very long time period see we didn't just go to the Vatican we also went to the Vatican Archive which is hard to get into but I could get into it and we also went to the Space Observatory Archive which most people don't even know that the Vatican has a space observatory and how that all happened was not set up Joe it was so it was so organic because it happened before I even met Tyler and I put off going there because I had at the time very young kids and I didn't want to leave them and go to another country for you know three weeks or what not but I had been invited by Brother Guy Consolmagno to go to the Space Observatory because I had been studying about the space research and I said does the Vatican have like a lot of space?
1:25:19 does the Vatican have like a lot of space? documents? you know documents about space and he said every single thing that the Vatican does and we do he said comes to where I live which is at the Space Observatory and we have a scholars residence and your welcome to stay for as long as you want you have full access to the Space Observatory Archive and what is it like? it's great it's great describe it to me okay well for me it's great right many people may think oh how boring right but original Keplers and Copernicus and Copeckyis and copernicus's and you know every single thing that people scientists from 1200 1300 on up thought about space and about magnetism and propulsion and things like that it's all there every one of them and so you you go in there and we we had full access to it tyler well the vatican would have it so because you know who was doing this 500 years ago there was no united states right so of course they're gonna have it they also have an amazing meteorite collection um they have a lot of really cool things there and they're again they're these monks they're astrophysicist monks and they're just hanging out there so okay so you got these astrophysicist monks hanging out there i i just picture this i'm sure they don't wear the full garb but i i they are dedicated that's what i'm saying they are dedicated to uh researching astrophysics physicists uh monks to the cause of understanding this through a religious understanding and if this all all of a sudden broke one day sudden i mean just just came upon the world with a sudden fierceness and all of a sudden we're like yeah we know what this is not us but there is a big group of people that came out and said we understand this and we uh we're here to help you understand this better we have books on this from history let's let us come come to you wouldn't that be something it would oh just be something all right i think that the this is how it's been laid out because if you're a being so we just gotta like take ourselves out of humanity for a moment think of this as a fallen angel you are living for centuries and centuries thousands of years and the big guy says hey you know i think i i figured this out how to do this deception we were coming down as gods before but uh let's kind of recontextualize this i got a plan it's gonna take many hundreds of years but eventually we'll show up and we will say that we're aliens from another planet okay boss uh what can i do well we're gonna get to work is what we're gonna do because we need 500 years worth of documentation and collected meteorites all that junk we need it to be stored up so that when we come the people that we are deceiving feel that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that we are who we say we are we have to create our own credentials and give it to these people give it to a uh someone that they trust very much i believe satan does trust the vatican very much to keep his secrets and to keep his documents and all those things safe for him when he does finally arrive but that's what this is this is a it's a grand deception right and it's made by these beings who can just survive generations and generations of humanity so to them it's so weird it's like they've been sitting at the table the whole time this is like a poker game or something it's like they've been sitting there playing their chips for the whole time but all of humanity's been sitting down getting up sitting down getting up all of those players have changed to the point where you're going to take a seat at the table with them and look around and it's like i don't even know what's the state of the game here here here here here here and it's like it's like it's like i i i im i i i going on you're you're coming in on something but they have this intelligence and it's all set up so to the point where it's just like yeah go ahead play a game with us grab your cards let's let's play a hand and and you're gonna lose because they are rigging it that's what I'm saying it is a rigged game right that you are walking into and all these people who consider themselves
1:29:39 ufologists and uh Pasolka here going and and getting her little residency stay and looking at this information that is her taking a seat at this rigged table and you know the best I partially one of the best ways to to win is simply not to play their game and say thus saith the Lord I don't care about 500 years worth of documentation from the Vatican I have I have the Bible right here and it tells me that that this is what's coming upon the world folks if you like this program and you think it's relevant you think it's it's important that we get this information out we ask that you help us out as well join us on patreon.com strange normal and we talk about this man there's so much we talk about I wish I got more into this but uh Diana had so much to talk about tonight we we only got through just one section we're not even done yet we got uh several more video clips to go through and we're we're actually going to talk about the uh how this relates to Bible we're going to talk about how Joe Rogan is specifically saying they're literally angels and demons uh the Catholic experience at the Vatican and uh Francis died from this I'm not sure which Francis obviously not the one that's alive right now probably that's his namesake oh okay yeah his real name isn't it's like something Bergoglio is his actual name yeah change it when they become a Pope become a probe yeah and so all this stuff we talk about in in the in the discord and you're going to want to be a part of that because uh there's more to this than meets the eye and we're going to do this we do this podcast bi-monthly sometimes all month I mean right now we've been doing it every week we might change that up where we do more produced content that is shorter and more uh juiced I guess you could say that's that's going to be coming up here pretty soon so if you want and you think this is important stuff join us on patreon patreon.com strange normal and you can join our private group where we talk about this in something called the discord and we'll see you there Matt you were talking about DMT drugs and similar UFO experiences this is that next clip watch what he says here this this blew my mind oh boy well I'd already had a lot of experiences with DMT right so I already knew I knew there was there's an a realm accessible to anybody that gets in contact with that stuff that is beyond imagination it is more real than reality and when you go there you've been there before with the most bizarre feeling about it is this terrifying fear while it's happening and then incredible peace when you get in there and a recognition like oh I know this place I've been here I'm here all the time I know these things I know these beings these beings are they're they're truth there's something from somewhere else somewhere that's probably around us all the time that's influencing us all the time I know a lot of people have had very negative experiences like horrific experiences of demons and and negative encounters I've had none I've had no negative experiences like that my my experiences are all in these very enlightened bizarre creatures that contact you and they seem to know like what's wrong with me like right away and they seem to like also work on you like there's this bizarre feeling like they're like let me get in there and fix your wires well that of course sounds like the abduction experience yes very very very similar to the abduction experience I think they're all connected I really do so when did he do this interview with her this was recent like in the last recent yeah last few days wow now I tried it I try to pick everything on this program I try to get it from the week that it happened so that's why when these shows happen if we haven't had a show for like two weeks this is the last two weeks of what has happened if it's been a long time a long time ago I I don't show it because I want to keep everyone up to date on what is happening right now what people are saying about this is we're on the Forefront right now anyway what were you saying I I don't know if he's spoken about his DMT use before that candidly but that was the most candid I've ever heard him say it wow Joe Rogan is totally deceived it is a hundred percent deceived just from what he is saying the fact that they appear evil to you doesn't mean they aren't evil and he's saying that they seem to know right away what's wrong
1:34:26 with you buddy i got news for you they're they're having bad things happen to you are the cause of it yeah like man it's that old uh that old analogy i i have with the arson you know the arsonist the guy who burns down your home and and as the solution you know it's ridiculous that he has these experiences and and okay so other people have had demonic experiences and i do wonder about what that is what makes some people see that these are plainly demonic and what makes others they gotta have different bait for different people sure but so that leads us to one of the most my bad didn't mean to cut you off i'm trying to load this load this up here so you can see it and now i'm all out of order that's totally my fault but keep going because i'm gonna load this picture up watch this well there you have it folks i don't know who the other guy is but i didn't realize that that ufo sits above yeah i mean talk about completely deceived you're breaking up matthew so i'm not sure if we can hear you but um this guy look at this he has this is right above that sign that sits right behind him he's he's got a ufo lifting up his joe rogan experience sign he said he named his program after the jimmy hendrix experience of um having this type of experience this is what he's talking about the whole third eye thing that he has in his logo and and the whole i mean the stuff he talks about he's pushing an agenda whether he knows it or not what do you think he knows it he knows it he knows it a hundred percent there's no way he doesn't know it i mean yeah he's got his brand and he's got his sign and he's saying that he's receiving messages from beings straight up yes he's pushing an agenda and he's also allowing them to uh these he's in he's allowing them to come in fully this is what's so terrifying is that for some people satan really is breaking down the doors smashing windows to get in and people are terrified joe rogan is opening the door letting them in like hey you need a cushion you need a blanket here you go here's some man oh wonderful now i'm having all these problems in my life the way he's talking about he lets them go in and say here let me fix that for you let me do that what like this is such an inversion and we we know that jesus he was described as a physician to to heal the sick and here's satan just loving it coming in and playing that role for for joe rogan and just having full access to him his psyche and even i mean his body too going on these dmd trips and having this bodily experience i know i've seen uh i mean i've done the research enough on dmt that you feel like you're being physically transported to this place it's not just like a mental thing where i'm in my head and i'm having like really intense visuals it's like boom i am experiencing it's like it's a dream uh you know they say that we have a an amount of dmt or at least an analog something that's you know chemically similar to dmt within our bodies and we secrete it when we dream so when you dream and you're having those vivid dreams and it feels like you're somewhere and you wake up we've all had that you wake up you're almost like huh what oh oh okay that was a dream i was in i mean that's what he's experiencing through dmt he is going to this place he is talking to these beings he is being acted upon by them it's so incredibly dangerous and the fact that he is basing his worldview off of these experiences it's sad it's sad in a lot of ways but it's also just such blatant like i don't even know what to say it's like well it's watching someone set themselves on fire it really is that like yeah insane to me so it's it's interesting too because there are certain drugs that uh can cause you to do stupid things i mean i think growing up uh you know we've all had the experience where you had to chase alcohol i hope someone's here i'm sure hasn't and i'm i'm proud of you but um there is uh you realize if you have tasted it if you have gotten a little inebriated that you're not in full control of yourself anymore your motor skills are not as good as they your thinking skills aren't as good as they could
1:39:12 be imagine if there was a drug you more powerful than that i mean what is going on here essentially is that the spiritual realm has found a drug that impairs your mind so well that they know that they can come in and they can show you things they can do things for you they can make you move if they want to and you can't say no you've already said yes to the fact that you don't care what you do to your body so they're like courts have had and they're like that guy i can take care of him uh right now because he's already said that he uh is is at least for this moment mine so let me take care of him and now you're you don't want to do these things this spiritual realm is just so happy that you do because it can just wreak havoc on all your beliefs all your memories all your knowledge and he says there's people that have had terrible trips of just seeing demons and uh can you imagine you you have you take a drug that you think is gonna make you feel better and you end up having like a nightmare that lasts eight hours or whatever it is and i don't uh i don't know why people do it other than just to escape reality and it's terrible yeah that's what it is people are escaping reality they're not satisfied with uh with where they are and then they do it and it's a shame because sometimes these things can be very addictive depending on on what you do i may it is it is really the the rampant drug use pharmakia ironically right i mean it's in the bible it's it talks about that um the the drugs that people are going to be on it's so bad i mean i've seen some people uh just like abusing benadryl for example because it's a essentially it's a delirium a deliriant it produces it's like a unique psychedelic and it it transports the user into a hell of their own making and there are people who get addicted to doing it and it's like young people are overdosing on benadryl because they are that desperate to escape reality and they're addicted to it and it's not even like they're escaping reality into uh joe rogan's dmt land they're they're getting out of this reality and going to like the darkest recesses of their mind and just being preyed upon by demons until they overdose and die it's such a depressing time we live in it really is when it comes to drug use the fentanyl use all of this type of stuff and for joe to just kind of get on here and talk about it so so lovingly it like the damage he's doing is severe i i bet i know this this probably sounds crazy but i bet there are hundreds of thousands of people who would not have tried drugs any given any type of drugs but had watched joe rogan experience and it came up to the point where they they took those drugs hundreds hundreds of thousands of people i'm willing to bet in his audience yeah 100 the light the light the light did you manually activate the light maybe yeah i saw you i saw you flip the switch i had to because i i can't have time to sit down here and diagnose the logs and figure out why this thing's not working automatically that's fine but um i want to say thank you to michelle brown thank you so much for your super chat um she is uh that's this is how things continue on this channel uh not only through super chats but also through your donations by going to patreon.com strange normal become a subscriber become a patreon member and uh follow us in the discord because this is where we do things and this is uh you can watch the show progress before it even becomes a show um everyone is contributing hundreds a hundred people at least right now and it's uh it's it's fascinating to see every everything that's um everything that's happening out there we can't talk about even on this channel this is this is an important clip this is kind of tying everything together uh this is where um joe rogan gets a little biblical he starts thinking about literal angels and demons the catholic experience and uh what he says about francis was just blowing my mind watch this so that leads us to one of the most fascinating interpretations of what we're experiencing collectively when it comes to this ufo uap whatever it is phenomenon that this is not a thing from another planet it comes on a spaceship and and lands here to show us how to do things
1:44:00 correctly but that they've always been here and that they are the things that are being described in ezekiel that they they are a phenomenon that is both here and not here at the same time it's you you are literally dealing with angels and demons that this is that this this phenomenon is connected to these ancient stories of religion and it's it's not as simple as other beings like us from somewhere else okay yeah so so I can respond to that all right so because you said a huge amount of information in there and I'm going to parse out some of that and tell you just about what I what I think so part of why I continued to study this was that I saw that the historical record included a lot of these events and these events were weird back then just like they're weird today right and when you look at these events back in that time period you also see a common pattern that happens and that's what I'm going to talk about in a little bit happens today and what is that pattern that pattern is is that you know let's take um Saint Francis of Assisi stigmata I don't know if you want to show you know sure so if you look at his stigmata where it looks like he's being you know basically radiated by UFO um that's what my students say when they go and they see this in in the Louvre and and such um if you look at his primary sources for that this happens in the 1200s and you look at what's happening in the world what um yeah so that so here you see Saint Francis but also over here on the right you see his friend brother Leo brother Leo actually at the time is probably 15 or something like that he's 15. yeah he's really young hard life back then dude looks 80. well he's he's doesn't actually look like that so the artist yeah so the artists actually are not getting at the primary sources and that's what similar similar things are happening today so the representations that we media don't look at all like an abduction they don't look at all what people experience and so what I did was I went through a lot of the primary source materials for Teresa of Avila has a weird experience that looks like an abduction um but they look beautiful they're domesticated they're made to look a lot more happy or something like that and I think part of the reason for that I don't think it's intentional I think because it's traumatic I think because once you recognize the people themselves traumatized by this in both good and bad ways okay so this experience is still happening um drama to call it angels and demons is is is accurate except for one part and this and because there are bad things that happen sometimes people get hurt um Francis died from that wound or he died from wounds um that you know were bleeding until so when he had this experience until he died which was about a year and a half later um they tried to keep it in in his monastery because they were they didn't know what happened to him and they were horrified by it okay and so until he died they didn't actually tell anybody so he kept it between him brother Leo and probably another Monk so there's this idea of shame almost you know this is like you know shameful um but also this idea that so think bad things happen and that's why people say well you know demonic or something like that and people do experience these things in different ways and they still do they still do but what should we call it should we then use the terminology of people from 100 years ago and call it angels and demons I don't think we should I think that what we have to do is we have to take case by case look at patterns and maybe just try to proceed with different language because some of the things were really interesting if you do look at say experiences that Catholics have say in the 1960s that have been videotaped okay so um the Virgin Mary is where the Virgin Mary appears and she reads people's minds and she does you know she's doing these kinds of things levitating people together um if you put physics on that case physicists on that case and if you take you know the work of those people who are working at I think it's the University of Washington where they're doing MRI imaging of what people are thinking and they're able to replicate it so if they're looking at a Van Gogh painting they can replicate that well this looks like a technology um so what I'm trying to say is that there's something going on that could possibly be different and we
1:48:49 need different language for it and I think we're at the very beginning just like doing this stuff with DMT we're at the very beginning of learning about this this other world so let's let's let's do more of it is that what she's she's implying so we have to figure this out we have to do more of it so we that uh we can understand this thing because it's it's going to have to be uh demonized but I don't think we should call it demons because that was an old term so let's call it something else let's call it aliens so we can explore it some more because if we call it demons we can't touch it that's essentially what she said here yeah it just reminds me of she's she's right in line with uh Alistair Crowley when he had that weird channeled experience he channeled a demonic being called iwas and it said they call us angels and demons today but tomorrow they will call them something different and it's like they hear she's just basically said it word for word that that we're we used to call them angels and demons but let's relabel them recontextualize it this is what this is what's going to come upon the world in a massive way I've said this before but be ready for a new interpretation of the Bible a new interpretation of scripture they are going to claim to be the authors of scripture to begin with so you really don't have any authority you can't have this opinion because we're the ones that wrote it like I said I fully anticipate to see apostles come back to life yeah this is not it's not really the apostles but I I could see that trick being pulled it's just crazy to me it's it doesn't make it any less dangerous you know it's a fire right so oh um it seems to be a fire but the implications of that would if I jumped into it people would kind of think I'm crazy and it would be a dangerous thing to do let's recontextualize it's more of a chemical reaction taking place in front of me and um yeah let's study it let's re let's reevaluate how we how we perceive fire and then you know just burn ourselves alive this is this is ridiculous and yeah the encouragement of the DMT thing to say oh we're on the cusp it's just legitimizing that is such a bad thing it's such a bad idea to be legitimizing people's uh DMT experiences and saying they do more of that because it's just it's like a full-on possession in some cases uh an interaction that it's like an Express route too man it's just they're making it really easy for Satan I mean he's got to be like this is like this is really getting this is a cakewalk I I it's it's absolutely insane where this is going and this is just the beginning of it because people aren't getting their news on the news you know let me tell you I don't know if I I probably told this on this channel before but um I got uh put on the news just recently just the last few weeks um because I run a real estate uh business and they wanted to talk about someone that's moved from California to Tennessee and they said hey you're going to be on the news and you can talk about your real estate and you can get some leads from it and I was like all right let's talk about it so I I talked about on the news I was on the 10 o'clock I was on the eight o'clock and it came on again on the next day and you know several times and you know I got this many leads from it and this is why nobody watches the news anymore people go to Joe Rogan people go to these podcasts to find out actually what's happening because they don't trust the news anymore and so the news people are getting are these popular figures like Joe Rogan and that's the that's the dangerous part no I mean there's there used to be and there is a little problem with the news where they have been biased and that's what happened and that's why people left but there at least was some vetting to some of this stuff you didn't have to just pop it you know immediately and now you just have people that come on and say I think I feel this is my experience and the experience became becomes truth that's a dangerous thing so that's that's where we're heading um unless you have something to say I want to go into uh something that I forgot to talk about real quick well let's let's Journey on this is interesting so I asked chat GPT because I don't know a lot about the UFO lore and I'm not going to dig into Jacques Vallee's books to try to figure out exactly what he said about what and so I know one AI that has read all the books at least a summary of them and um it can at least tell me exactly what's going on here she talked a little bit about
1:53:39 donation sites and I thought that was interesting because I hadn't heard that term before and so I thought okay donation sites I said according to UFO lore where is the UFO donation sites located and she said what did she say she said a state that you're in but this is what chat GPT said he said in UFO lore the UFO donation site put in quotes refers to a location at area 51 a highly classified remote detachment of Edwards Air Force Base within the Nevada test and training range in the United States area 51 has long been a focus of conspiracy theories and UFO folklore with many believing believers suggesting that its use by the U.S government to store examine and reverse engineer crash crashes alien spacecraft including materials supposedly recovered at Roswell in New Mexico in 1947. very interesting that this is what we're the same things that she was saying so either she's making it up from someone else that's been saying some some of this stuff from books or she actually has legitimate sources that's telling her some stuff that side is going to come out here later on and let's watch this last clip of her talking about this area that I should have played right after the other one watch this what do you think when they use the term donations what do you think the purpose of that is if there is a of an object that is purposely released into our you know like I'm sure you're aware of cargo cults right yeah so with cargo alternate for people There's been some islands during World War I and World War II where planes landed there, and they left. And these people, they created these statues of these planes, and they worshipped them. And they wanted them to come back. Yes. Because they got food and all kinds of wonderful things from the planes. Right. But they thought of them as deities.
1:55:41 Right. The same way we would think of something from somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, that in my field has been called the cargo cult, the UFO cargo cult, right? And obviously, Tyler and James view these parts as donate, they call it the donation site. The donation site. The donation site. The cargo cult. This is what they're calling these things. And so, I think it's entirely possible. It's a theory. It's interesting. But the long and the short of it is that we don't have to believe any of this stuff, and we need to be prepared for when this stuff does come upon the world. We need to know ahead of time how to thwart this idea through Scripture. Not only through Scripture, but also logic, because there's going to be people that don't believe in Scripture. And so, if you haven't seen, I'm going to plug this real quick, the top 20 reasons why these UFO abductions and UFO, UAP ideas are demonic, we've put together 20 reasons why in a very short video.
1:56:53 You've got to check it out. It's on this channel. Go to the video section and watch it. Send it to someone you know that at least has some faith in God, or if they don't, maybe they will at this point. I've known testimonies from people that have sent me testimonies saying, you know, I didn't used to believe in God. But now I come to your channel. And I understand this stuff now, and I realize this is absolutely real stuff, and it's increased my faith, and I want to read the Bible. And so, this is something. This is how you can open that door to talk to your neighbor about spiritual things, because it's on the news right now. It's happening right now, and people are interested in what's happening. This is relevant information making your spiritual life relevant, and you're going to want to know everything there is to know about this, so hit that subscribe button. That's it. And that's all I have to say for now.
1:57:47 Any ideas, Matthew? No, I think you nailed it. Yeah, let's get the word out. Let's do a little counter initiative on this. Oh, okay. It worked this time. I didn't press it. That's great. I'm glad. Yeah. Yeah, great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Let me read this real quick. Let me scroll up. Nancy Kennedy. Thank you so much for the super chat. She says, I'm curious. I'm on hospice care because I have four autoimmune disorders. Oh, no. It's attacking me. I have to take pain meds. I was wondering if I'm sinning. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Bible talks about how you give alcohol even to a person that is on hospice care, is dying.
1:58:39 And the whole – let me turn this light off, because I can't think when it's on. Okay. I can't think when it's spinning around in my eyeballs. But can you look this verse up for me, Matthew? It's talking about giving alcohol to someone that's dying. The – it's – because you are on some medications doesn't mean that you are sinning. Sinning is absolutely a choice, and it's a choice that damages your character. These are something that is taking care of a bodily function, and in a hospital, it's very important, especially when you're dying, that you are caring for that pain because it can be terrible. And the Bible knows this. God knows this. And that's why this is put into the Bible. Did you find that? I put you on the spot, Matthew. Yeah, this is from Proverbs, Proverbs 31, 6. It does say, give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
1:59:37 Yeah, I am so sorry, Miss Kennedy. That is terrible. That is terrible, and we will pray for you tonight. We're going to continue to pray for you, and I'm glad you're watching. There's lots going on right now in this world, and keep the faith because you're not sinning by taking these medicine, and we're praying for you. Yeah, absolutely. We will be praying for you. And just know that there is a future without sickness, without pain, and that is what – that is your expected end. And just have total faith in Jesus. Throw yourself onto him. He is the rock. He is unfailing. You will have zero regrets doing that. There's a lot of things that we can do in this life that is entirely regrettable, but I'll tell you, the one thing that I am so thankful for is to have gotten to know the true God, the living God, my Creator.
2:00:43 Yeah. The one who loves me, the one who died for me, and the one who wants to spend all of eternity with me, and not just with me, but with you as well, with all true believers. We are going to have such a wonderful time. Eternal life is going to be so beautiful, so amazing. The former things will pass away, the pain that you're going through, all of the terrible things. It will end, and we're going to have such a great time together. We really are. So we'll be praying for you. Absolutely. Yeah. And, well, that really touches my heart that you are spending some of your final days with us on this channel. It is an interesting topic, and I appreciate you, Nancy.
2:01:37 Thank you. With that, Matthew, you want to close us out with prayer? Yes. I can close out with prayer. Father in heaven, I want to offer a special prayer tonight for Miss Kennedy. Please help to alleviate her pain. Please be with her. Let her just pour her out to you. You are the one that cares for her above all else, and let her feel that care. Let her feel that love. We're going to also offer up a prayer for Joe Rogan, some of the things that he said that I've heard tonight. Thank you. I know that they do disdain me. In some ways, they are saying, but I want to pray for him. I want to see him forgiven, and I want to see him just turn on all of this and become a great powerful voice for you.
2:02:30 I pray for all of our viewers, all of our listeners, that you be with them and give them peace and strength, and comfort them in these trying times, and alleviate their burdens, and let them walk you. easily with you. In Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you so much, Matthew. Hang out for just a second. We'll close out the program and maybe do just a short after show after this. Folks, thank you so much for joining us tonight. This is a heavy topic, and it's very important that we are in the Word daily, and we understand what's going on in these final days. And I truly believe we're in the final racket that's happening right now. And so if it is an interesting topic for you, and if you think that this is an important topic and you want to see it continue further, please help us out. Join us on Patreon. Join us on Discord. We'd love to see you and chat with you some more. And with that, my name is Bradley, and this has been Pure Strangeness, an absolute normalcy. Strange normal. See you soon. You're watching Strange Normal, where the truth is the truth.