0:07 We've only seen the public version so far, but here's what we can tell you. Government investigators seem sincerely baffled by what these things are. Today's report analyzed 144 separate sightings of UFOs by the U.S. military. But in only a single case could the government explain what it was. So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official saying stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic. Correct. This is a person I respected tremendously. Very, very senior person. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop. Stop doing this. I said, OK, sir, I certainly can. But may I ask why? He says, well, we already know what it is. And I said, OK, sir.
1:03 So so it's ours. And he said, no, that's not what I'm saying. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I wasn't quite sure where he was going with that. I said, well, sir, I think I know what. It says what where you're going with this. And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them. And what I've been trying to do is to use the special privilege that I've been given of getting access to a Harvard education and the law school education. And with the Jesuits and all the different people in meeting, you know, Baba Muktananda and getting to meet all the spiritual leaders of our people on our planet is to try to develop a really intelligent, sophisticated. Spiritually informed, but rationally developed a set of policies for our dealing with extraterrestrial civilizations.
2:10 The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as we see these as we call them UFOs or maybe again, the things that we have peopled our religions with in the form of spirits or. Gods or what have you are really just these things showing themselves as they appear to be now. Religions have made conclusions about the data have become set in their ways. And that is, frankly, what sets up this potential conflict amongst the religions, because they've all come to a conclusion and they're trying to prove the other one wrong. A pillar of fire at night and confuse Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship.
3:13 There was some kind of a lightnings was starting shooting from the sky and like sparks were going well, like spreading everywhere. And then they on the morning, they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke. And it's repeated in the Book of Acts. Chapter. Chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens and a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. We're now less than 16 minutes away. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first, the Russians are going to be considered to be.
4:14 The. Enemy. In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy, then terrorists would be identified. And that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. We now call them nations of concern. And the next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the. Final card. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. No, I'm not talking to you about this.
5:12 What am I going to tell her or him? You know, these little kids, you know, 10, 11 years old. Yeah, that there's a force that exists out there that can control our environment, that can put thoughts in your head, that can lie to you, trick you, deceive you. Say that to a 12 year old. I mean, we're already saying it to a certain extent. 14 minutes, 30 seconds and counting. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. You know, there were there were no questions that prepared me for for what I was about to get into. You know, people often say, oh, must have been fun and must be exciting.
6:02 Now, it was it was pretty sobering. You know, I like in this conversation to like having a conversation with a loved one about maybe cancer. Now, the good news is the diagnosis looks fine. You're going to recover, but it's a serious conversation. This is this is something that we are challenging people to reevaluate their philosophical, psychological, sociological, and theological values. And I think it's a good thing because it's a good thing that we are trying to do this in a way that we're trying to do it in a logical belief system. And I think it's a good thing that we are trying to do this in a way that we're trying to do it in a logical belief system. Any time you ask humanity to do something like that, it usually takes generations. You can't just pivot because, you know, for example, let's just take culture, for example, of a country. It's like an aircraft carrier. How long does it take to turn an aircraft carrier? Well, it takes quite a bit of time and a lot of bit a lot of effort and and whatnot. Well, this topic is the same way because we're challenging people to reconsider, if you will, reevaluate their understanding of what they've been told about the universe. And more importantly, our population. Right. Right. Right. place in it what do you think that was just a hallucination or a to be perfectly honest a demon yeah that's my understanding of ghosts any anything of that kind of story you don't believe in ghosts i don't i was in the kitchen by myself and i felt it come up next to me and i said out loud i said god whatever this is that's been posing his grandma for the past seven years in jesus name get it away from me and never let it come back and it hasn't been back since these so-called alien beings are actually manifesting at times as dead relatives during the abduction experience to challenge the person's belief system as christian theology in the idea that dead relatives can be talked to or even spoken to or that they're even around to be able to hear what we have to say no evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this willĺŞćŻ show this will end you have too many creatures to live on and body as dead and wil shock well by contacting these things. Evolution says that these things are likely to be superior and so survival of the fittest will destroy us. Religion says that these things are deceptive and dangerous and the evidence, if you want to include all the theory and all the stories of these sincere people, it says they've damaged crops, they have mutilated cattle, they've abducted people beyond their will, they've messed with our highest security protocols, they've enabled and disabled dangerous warheads, forced pregnancies, forced surgeries, burned victims, killed pilots, and lied to people. And most experiencers have experienced at least one terrifying alien experience. So to say that these things, they haven't destroyed us yet, so they must be good, is to deny the fact that there might be a universal court saying these earthlings are protected here on earth. And that's what Christianity believes. We've passed the 11 minute mark. Now T-minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. Both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now.
9:21 This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. Very eye-opening. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Mark, T-minus 10 minutes and counting, T-minus 10. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor, for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti, and he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a research and a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. I'm saying about the nuclear weapons, the UFOs were turning our weapons on, and just so Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So these guys went into complete secrecy to start coming up with a new theory. And that's what we're seeing. And that's what we're seeing. And that's why we have Christian faith with a defense system against this phenomenon.
11:22 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so you know, I think that we're, people start teenagers and intolerant people, people dress. From what R. A. Mayer says, people turned into creatures. And And that's why you have to go to be part of that mother world and sort of price taker to sort of still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is there are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet and keep in mind there are a basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe i mean you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there but you've seen this and you've seen the data well no one knows but i think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else the mission of atip was quite simple it was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous uh aerial vehicles what i guess in the vernacular you you call them ufos we call them uaps you know how this sounds it sounds nutty wacky look bill i i'm not i'm not telling you that that it doesn't sound wacky what i'm telling you it's real the question is what is it what are its intentions what are its capabilities my name is tom de long most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called blink 182 i started a company called to the stars that eventually became to the stars academy of arts and science we are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about ufos in the papers today without all the stigma it's the first time that we had the videos properly declassified and because of that we had information as far as altitude and speed eyes on target different radar systems different sensors that all corroborated what was happening people start to understand more about the ufo phenomenon and when they they follow what secret machines is going to teach them and mind you as we'll talk about this in a little bit it's not all coming from me it's coming from other people of the highest places the the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the ufo phenomenon than and and and i mean that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats there is a very very strong link between what people think demons are from the bible and other religions and the ufo phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man period and something that feels um either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be over the next 10 years i have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of jesus christ this is documented evidence but but what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect christian belief very soon not not right in the beginning we won't have to deny our christian faith in the beginning but there is information coming from another world and once it is confirmed it is going to require a re-reading of the gospel as we know it and that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of vatican intelligentsia we're now passing the four minute 30 second mark in the countdown still go at this time and the priest told us could i have a little bit more your time i want to do something very fascinating he says the grand plane the master's grain plane for harvesting the nations for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil so we continued it after we express ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits and he said it's going to be done in a unique manner this this grain plane says is going to take people people in the world they're going to eat the stuff because he says spirits demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless
16:27 something seriously proper is done to avoid it welcome to a unique night on a sunday night of strange normal please hit that like button the more likes we have more viewers we have and the further this is pushed out tell me where you're from in the chat i'm really curious tell me the city and state or country see you soon t minus three minutes and counting t minus three we are go with all elements of the mission at this time we just passed the two minute mark in the countdown t minus one minute 54 seconds and counting all indications uh coming in to the control center at this time indicate we are go guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds t minus 60 seconds and counting we pass t minus 60 trees to the universe we were never meant to solve but who we are and why we are here are not among them ignition sequence five six five four five six five four six five four six five four three two one that intro makes me smile every single time welcome to strange normal my name is brad we talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on and man there's a lot going on tonight there's been a lot going on this whole week in fact we're doing this on a sunday night this is a unique night for us because usually we do on thursday nights but uh sunday wow i get to do this more often on the weekends because we were already hitting triple digits just viewing this just tonight fantastic to see all y'all here tonight i said y'all yeah i'm in tennessee so i can do that and we're going to have a fantastic evening we're going to talk a little bit about it and um and we got some very strange stuff coming up let me give you an idea of what on earth is happening here tonight on the show outline so tonight we got mainstream media breaks new stories uh from the u.s from a u.s navy admirable admirable man i can't talk tonight uh grutch's medical records are leaked to discredit him peru believes aliens are causing chaos in their villages and uh talked about the religious ramifications about that and uh do you remember the plane lady the plane lady yeah the one that caused all kinds of grief and left the plane she actually did an apology video earlier today and we're going to talk a little bit about that and recap it close to the end very interesting stuff how she didn't really walk it back there um we're gonna there's some twists that we're going to cover that so you don't want to miss that if you if you uh if you haven't understood what's going on this weird and crazy strange story but before we get too far into it i want to introduce our guest tonight john good to have you here hey how's it going hey i saw your video recently about um you being you leave in little light studios oh yeah well that was uh that was interesting so there's a video they just released uh on on their channel little light studios is where i used to work and we have been uh talking about kind of uh separating because i have this channel they have their channel i want to focus on prophecy a little bit and it's it's a little bit of a conflict of interest but the other other problem is that um the there's just so much going on right now there's so much going on right now in the uh in the ufo thing that um i can't put my all and all into that and uh and and stay uh on this topic 100 of time um there is there is interesting things so the way
22:43 i i can't obviously this channel isn't big enough to support me but what we do have is a little bit of money that goes towards uh advertising starfall uh through patreon and so that's that's what that does and we have a group of people that have partnered with us and they're on our discord you're one of them john i think right yes yes i am i enjoy it a lot i get to read articles i would never find by myself very good yeah and so for me and and what i actually do right now i've gotten my real estate license and so it allows me to be a little bit more um i don't have a i'm not tied to a desk and so my wife and i everyone knows this we do flips we've been doing that for ever since we got married nine years coming up here in a few days and uh we're going to um continue that but because of that now i got a real estate license now we can actually not have to wait on a real estate license so i'm going to continue that and go in there and do our thing if we need to so this is uh allowing me to have a little more time during the day to research this stuff and bring you the latest stuff on the channel because that's that's the most important that's what i'm passionate about on this channel so i i i appreciate little light and i love what they're doing and um always keep in the back of your heads that we need to pray because as i was on the team we are constantly looking at what is uh how we can how they can shine the brighter brighten the darkness and so because of that they got to dive into the darkness sometimes and uh and shine that light and while i believe that is biblical there is some things we have to understand about that there's a quote from um an author that i read quite a bit it says the very act of looking for evil in others develops evil in those who look by dwelling upon the faults of others we are changed into the same image and so when we're looking in the hollywood we all know this and this is i'm not i would never say anything bad about it but we all in the back of our head we have to realize we have to have a stronger a stronger spiritual life than what we're digging into and so always keep if you if you like little light and i have i do i think they're doing a fantastic job uh keep them in prayers because uh they're right next door to me anyway and we'll be doing stuff constantly throughout the year as well but um yeah we did part ways and that last video was a send-off and that's probably what you saw anyway i answer your question um we have a little bit more to cover i wanted to cover a little bit extra as i have i had a facebook page normally people went to um my facebook page and uh you could find things we posted about what's going on here but i'm kind of separating because i have to separate my business from from this business too so if everyone wants to keep track and if you're on facebook facebook is what i primarily uh use all day and i'm going to be doing a lot of um go to um i got a new strange normal facebook page so let me bring it up here i want to i want to make sure everyone knows about this because if you are already following me on facebook you um and you want to find the latest of what's going on uh you're going to have to go to a new page because this one's going to be disappearing um normally you would go to facebook.com stranger brad but um we're going to be changing that now we're going to be changing that up and i want to make sure people know that we're going to facebook.com slash strange normal rg that stands for research group facebook.com slash strange normal rg and that's going to bring you to the strange normal research group official page and i'll be posting all the stuff on there throughout the week if you want to keep up with that um that's very important because the other page is disappearing um there was one other thing i wanted to talk about discord discord and what this channel is for since we did with that last video we got about a thousand new subscribers and that's fantastic so that little light last send off little light video gave us about at least 1200 that came in which is a record number so a lot of new faces and i i realize um that you guys might not know what in the world is this channel what's going on here so this this started um and john you may already know this uh sorry about that if you got to tune out for a second but um this this started because of a uh a documentary called starfall starfallmovie.com and it is a a documentary that kind of says hey this whole alien thing this whole uap thing that's happening in the news this is the spiritualism that we believe is going to be a part of the last day it's going to bring in the last steps of three things that come together apostate protestantism
27:36 the catholic protestantism and the evangelical protestantism and the evangelical protestantism church and spiritualism. This spiritualism isn't just like ethereal goblins. This spiritualism is not ghosts. This spiritualism is going to be literal. It's going to be obvious. It's going to be physical, where you're going to see things that you've never seen before, and you're going to think, wow, the physics is not what I understand, because it's completely changed. If you haven't seen that movie, go to starfallmovie.com, watch that, and it kind of gives you the rundown of what this channel is all about. We're following this, and how it affects religion, and what is actually going on here according to the Bible, because it's very important that all Christians understand this. And interestingly enough, we did a little survey. Sometimes we do that in the community tab on YouTube, and we ask people, what do you believe? Are you a religious person? Are you a pastor? Are you just following us just for fun? And 20% of people, I was shocked. I'm glad that people are open-minded, and 20% of people are saying that they actually don't really believe what we're teaching. They believe more in aliens, but they are very curious about what a different opinion is. And I'm proud to say we have 20% of our audience is actually very interested in what the Bible says about this. And about 10% are pastors, clergymen, priests, different things that are working in the church, and they are as well fascinated by this, because this is something that's not talked about in the church, and it should be. It's not talked about in ministry. It's not talked about in schools that teach about church. And I think it's a very important pivotal topic that's going to happen, and it's going to be very important in the last days here. And finally, John, I'm dominating the conversation tonight, and I apologize for that. I'm going to let you talk in just a second, but my last video, and the reason why we're doing this on a Sunday night is because my father's in the hospital, and I want to thank him for that. And I want to thank him for that. And I want to thank you all for praying for him. He's doing well. He's going to be out, and he's going to be 100% better, and it's all due to your prayers. So praise God. So anyway, how are you, John? I want to get into this tonight. What do you think? What do you think about? Do you have any comments before we jump right into it? No, I'm very on board with what you're saying. I think the last thing that really popped up to me is the fact that people are open-minded. That's so great. Like, I mean, to be willing to have an opinion about something, even a really firm opinion, but be willing to see from another person's point of view is very important. And that's important, not only in this topic, but any topic you do in the world, you know? I think it's good to be able to look at things from different points of view and understand them. I mean, obviously make your opinion, but be willing to see other people's opinions, too. Absolutely. 100%. I mean, listen to everyone and respect everyone. And I mean, have an opinion based on facts and understanding. And I think that what you make your your authority, even your moral authority, is very important. So it will decide, I believe, your future. So let's get into it tonight. This is fascinating that we've got so much going on. I want to kind of dig into David Grutch, which we've kind of been covering the last two weeks. He's been the forefront recently, as Lou Elizondo was previously, and Blink-182 guy Tom DeLonge was before that.
31:04 But he's been kind of the frontman. He's been kind of the frontman. He's been kind of the frontman. That's kind of pushing this agenda forward, even though he doesn't really know exactly what it is, I believe, that that's going on here. It's interesting to watch what's happening. And since he's come out with all this stuff, he has had to explain from the government point of view why it has been so secretive. This is what he says about that. Now, Grutch first made his bombshell claims in an exclusive interview with NewsNation in June. That led to an historic... Congressional hearing last week, where he testified under oath that he's aware of a secret U.S. government program involving the recovery and reverse engineering of non-human craft. The Pentagon has continued to say it hasn't found, quote, verifiable information to support Grutch's claims. In the new interview, Grutch also addresses that pushback, alleging that the culture of secrecy surrounding the Manhattan Project when the U.S. developed the atomic bomb also extends to UFOs. Why, if it's true, has the government not acknowledged it? Yeah, I mean, that's a multifaceted question. You know, it goes back, you know, 80, 90 years ago, when this was first created. And they, you know, translated some of the secrecy from the Manhattan Project onto this subject because, you know, they weren't sure how ontologically shocking it was going to be to the world populace. And then, two, you can imagine, you know, it's a Pandora's box for, you know, potential military and weapons development type reverse engineering activities. So they decided to keep it under wraps for many years. Merrick, thank you very much for joining us. You wrote today that there's one of two options here that's going on from the U.S. government, a decades-long cover-up or a staggeringly brazen psychological disinformation campaign. So my question to you is, what's to be gained in either scenario by the U.S. government? Why would they do that?
33:09 So it's a really good question, Mike, and thanks for having me, first of all. And I think, you know, I'm going to dive into the realm of speculation here, which I'm very uncomfortable doing. I'm much happier analyzing the facts as they exist. But from, if you believe the whistleblower, David Grush, in scenario one, if there was, in fact, this decades-long UFO retrieval and reverse engineering effort, it was partially born out of potentially Cold War politics, but also a fear that the ontological shock, the societal shock of revealing this information would be too much, and there could potentially be societal unrest and political and social unrest. So that's one side of it. If we're dealing with a disinformation operation, this could potentially be, and again, I'm speculating and not comfortable doing so, but this could be to potentially, you know, fool our adversaries, into believing that we could potentially have remarkable technology. It could run the gamut. So that's my speculative answer. So I also want to bring out there that there are Christians inside of the Pentagon who recognize that this thing is absolutely spiritual, and it's the kind of spiritual that they don't want, because the characteristics that it employs is dangerous. Dangerous. And Starfall brings that out, but I'm sure that they can't always say that it's a religious thing on the news, so they bring it out.
34:35 They're bringing out different characteristics of this, but that was interesting to me, that those are the two things that, or these ideas are what David Grutch was bringing out. What are your thoughts, John? Well, it is very interesting. I hadn't really thought about it from that point of view. The last point he makes is that it's possibly a disinformation campaign, not just to, like, fool the U.S. citizenry, to fool other nations. It might be in conflict with, whether it be a Cold War now, or eventually a hot war. You know, China, Russia, all that nonsense. So that's a good point, if you think about it. You're breaking up really bad for some reason. I think I understood what you were saying, but, and now you're fine. So I don't know what was going on. Yeah, of course I am. But I understood what you said. Yeah, it's a very weird, very interesting thing to try to fool our adversaries, to think that we have so much stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a theory that if we do have these things that have been pushing our technology along, that have been created, I believe they are physical deceptions.
35:46 Matthew brought out that there have been physical deceptions. Look in Exodus, the first two or three plagues that happened were physically changed by Pharaoh's magicians. And so I think that we will see some physical deceptions, such as some reverse engineering of, dare I say, technology put together by non-human intelligence, a.k.a. fallen angels. And if that does happen, it's not going to surprise a Christian. So I'm fascinated to see that the Bible is always accurate, because the Bible said that in the last days, knowledge will increase. Now, whether thatâsome say, well, that'sâ knowledge about the prophecies in the Bible, that is true. I believe it's not only that. We're going to have knowledge about technology. I mean, think about it. In the last 5,500 years, we've only been able to, what, shoot bows and arrows and lob cannonballs at each other, and suddenly we're flying in jets, and we're able to shoot lasers at drones.
36:49 What is going on here? You think that it was just us coming up with this stuff? I don't know. I don't know. We're going to find out, though. I think we're going to find out sooner than we realize. What do you think, John? I agree to that. Hopefully not breaking up anymore. But, yeah, I agree that it is very interesting that our technology has progressed so fast in just the last 5,200 years. It does make you wonder if there's something else behind it, you know, whether there'sâwhether people in the scientific circles are doing seances or what else could be possibly going on to bring out new technologies. Right. Something that we should definitely research. Absolutely. So, the next thing on the docket tonight, government legislation over alien spacecraft and biologics. We kind of covered that earlier, but I kind of want to go over that again for some of the new viewers. This is weird stuff that's happening in mainstream media.
37:45 Watch this. Right. So, all this got started with News Nation's exclusive interview with a former defense intelligence or National Geospatial Agency official, David Grush. He just testified before the House Oversight Committee, largely as a result of that interview, that we did. And what I hear you guysâa lot of you folks saying who are experts who have looked at this for a long time is that there's been a cover-up. Now, I've lived in Washington for a long time. I've covered Washington. If this has been going on for decades, if foreign governments have been involved, if aviators have been involved, if citizens have been involved, how have they been able to keep it secret so long? That's the one thing that I can't get past. Mike, it's the million-dollar question, and I worked in the government previously, and I was extremely skeptical. I was skeptical of the story when it first came out because I, from my experience, was in the same boat. But then I started looking back into kind of the history of the UFO story, and it turns out that there have been these rumors and leaks and deathbed confessions. They just never bubbled up to the surface.
38:45 They always kind of stayed underground with these UFO circles. So, the bottom line is, from my perspective, these rumors have been around for decades. They just never really saw the light of day the way they are now. So, in the 1970sâ Carl Sagan popularized the saying, quote, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. We've heard some extraordinary claims. I don't think there's any question about that. But we've seen limited evidence. Now, the Tic Tac videos are unexplained. Even the Defense Department, the AARO, can't explain what those things were. But, you know, are we at the point now where most Americansâ Do you think we've turned a corner where most Americans are going to start taking this seriously? You know, I think we're getting there. Now, I'm going to point briefly to Senator Chuck Schumer's legislation, which has now passed the Senate and is now moving on to negotiations with the House. And it's basicallyâit's pretty extraordinary.
39:41 And I don't think many people have caught on to what is in this legislation. It mentions non-human intelligence two dozen times. It discusses legacy programs of the sort that the whistleblower describes. It has a mandate for eminentâ It has a mandate for eminent domain over any UFOs that are in the possession of private contractors. So that means the government would forcibly take control of such equipment and material. And that goes for non-human biologics as well. This is pretty extraordinary language that we see. So I think once this information filters out, if and when that does become law, I think we're going to see much moreâpotentially much more coverage. And I think that will open up the aperture for the general public. So this is theâ It's a big deal because this says that it's not just, you know, a couple news outlets reporting on this or Grutch, David Grutch, maybe even being a little crazy.
40:39 This is the government reacting to this and saying, OK, we need laws that say anything that someone may have, whether it be craft that we don't understand where they came from or biologics. That's a fancy word for saying bodies, parts. You know, things. Things that aren't made by humans. That's eminent domain, which is funny because that's a law term that I learned a lot about when I took real estate. Government can take your stuff, basically, is what that says. It can take your stuff and we'll pay you for it. But it's ours and we're going to take it. So eminent domain. They're going to take it and even if they've given it to government contractors, because this is what's happened. They've gotten around. They've gotten around the laws by saying, we don't know anything about any objects or anything like that because they gave them away.
41:38 And people like, what is that? Man, it's escaped my brain. Someone in the chat is going to name the name, but there's well-known government contractors that possibly have this stuff. Say again? Lockheed Martin. Lockheed Martin. Yeah, that's the one. And there's a couple others that I can't remember. But yeah, they, they possibly have this stuff. And so the government saying, yeah, give it back. Now that's, that's ours. What I think is happening here. If that stuff is true, we're going to war here pretty soon. We're going, we got Russia, Russia and China down our back. And I believe that the government's going to be like, Hey, we haven't figured out some of this amazing technology that's on this stuff. If this stuff is true, we haven't seen this stuff yet, but if this stuff is true and they have this technology hanging out, they're going to want their top scientists out of Google.
42:28 Out of the market, out of all this other stuff that they're working to try to get our clicks and they're going to want them working on anti-gravity or whatnot. So that's, that's my personal opinion. I have nothing to back that up, but it could very well be that we've been given technology to kill ourselves. Wouldn't that be a sadistic thing to do? Anyways, I digress. Wouldn't be the first time, I guess. What do you think? I mean, I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it over to you before I go on to this next clip here. What do you think, John? I do think that it's very interesting that they mentioned biologics. I mean, like I said, that's just a fancy term for, well, in the air force, they use it for mangled bodies that pull out of a crash wreckage. So that's very interesting. I Googled that, by the way. I didn't just know that. Did you used to be in, I forget, did you used to be in the military?
43:24 No, I tried, but they wouldn't take me, unfortunately. But you were a pilot though, right? Yeah, yeah. I used to fly planes. I flew, I did mainly, I did flight school. And then once I had finished that, I had gone on a mission trip in Bolivia and I flew there. Only as a kind of ride along more than anything because I did not have a pilot. Very good. Very good. Well, appreciate your work and your mission work out there. Oh, thank you. Best experience of my life. Yeah. I mean, I went to Chiapas, Mexico and a few other places down there. And it was, it was an eye opener. And I love the people and it was beautiful. I want to jump into this story about the Admiral. They had a U.S. Navy Admiral. He's retired now.
44:12 It's Tim Gallaudet. Let's look at this real quick. I want to see what he says because this is a new story. Fascinating. Watch this. Retired Rear Admiral of the U.S. Navy, Tim Gallaudet. And now he talked about his own UFO experience and getting an email. About it. That disappeared from his inbox. We have the clip and then we'll come back for a question. Admiral, I'm curious. I'm told you have actually had an experience with seeing something and catching video of something. Tell us about that. Well, exactly right. And this is really why I've been supporting Ryan Graves for his Americans for Safe Aerospace. In 2015, when I was a one-star Admiral, I was in charge of a support command of meteorologists and oceanographers that provided weather forecasts for the, uh, aircraft carrier strike groups and the now famous go fast video from a Navy F-18 off the Theodore Roosevelt, USS Theodore Roosevelt.
45:10 Uh, I saw that, uh, and received that video, uh, on the Navy secret network, uh, because I was in charge of meteorologists supporting these, uh, aviation operations. I had received an email from a two-star Admiral in charge of the exercise, and he had actually sent it to a number of, of one and two-star Admirals. Like me. In charge of, uh, uh, aircraft carrier strike groups and other support commands. And the title of the email was urgent safety of flight issue. And in the text, he asked if anybody knew what these objects were and that, and it was the go fast video that was attached. And he said, report to me immediately if you do, because we might have to cancel the exercise because of safety concerns. And of course, once I saw that, I knew immediately what was her current, this is nothing we could have engineered. And, uh, and then. Interestingly, the next day, that email was wiped from my computer and eventually confirming what was, yes, reported at the hearing.
46:08 So it just disappeared out of your inbox even? Yes, exactly. And the inboxes of all the other addees, there were many more. And, uh, including my deputy, who was a senior civilian. And so, of course, we, we believed it was inside some compartment of program and that video was inadvertently released. And now that's all come out at the hearing. Interesting. I can't, what were you thinking when you first opened that email? Like, were you thinking, I don't think this is meant for me? Or were you just surprised by the video? Well, I thought two things, uh, Brian, first of all, a previous job of mine was the superintendent of the U.S. Naval Observatory. And that is the command in the Navy that's responsible for cataloging star positions and their brightnesses used for satellite navigation. But I had a team of astrophysicists and astronomers, and I learned from them how large the universe is. And, you know, we're in, we're in a galaxy of 100 to 400 billion stars among an observable universe of over 100 billion galaxies.
47:10 And it's just very arrogant of us to think we're the only species that's created a means of travel between celestial bodies. So when I saw that, I pretty much, it was confirmation to me that there was some kind of extraterrestrial activity occurring. And again, that's all coming out right now. Yeah, it's interesting what we've learned over the last couple of weeks. Ben Hanson and Admiral Tim Gallaudet, thank you both so much for coming on tonight. We really appreciate it. You know how much I'm getting sick of that explanation, John? It's like he didn't even answer the question. He went right into a spiel about how there's so many things in the galaxy, and that was proof. Well, look, I saw something on the video, and so I knew that there were so many things in the galaxy, so it must be aliens. Ah. Ouch. It hurts me so much. Everyone says that. And while I do believe that, we believe that, right?
48:03 We believe that there are the possibility of many, many different righteous beings, and we're kind of quarantined to this earth. I don't think that we can just go out and start saying, well, aliens are coming. That's such a reach. So, yeah, anyway, what do you think about that whole thing? I mean, he knew it ahead of time. Another proof that something else is going on. And that this whole thing isn't just disappearing. I mean, yeah. I mean, one of the things that I pulled from that video is, I mean, I'm a systems engineer, and it's super easy to get into somebody's mailbox and delete emails. So, I mean, that is definitely, that could very well be possible, what he's saying. You know, I don't know what was in the email, obviously, what he was saying, besides what he told us. But, obviously, that part is very, that could be very true. That somebody's going and deleting emails right out of mailbox, out of your inbox, and whatnot. So, it's very easy to do.
48:58 Yeah. But, about the other side of it, yeah, that always bothers me so much, too. The fact that they always say, like, oh, there's just so many stars, so there's got to be aliens coming here. Like, it's just like, why? Like, that's proof. For one, I mean, the spaces in between are just enormous. So, even, I mean, even if you didn't have a biblical outlook, I mean, it would take you, even at light speed, it would take you hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years to travel. There's distance between. There's distance between most of these inhabitable worlds, you know, that they claim to have found through NASA. So, I mean, but from a biblical standpoint, yeah, we're quarantined. Why would anybody want to come to a quarantine zone? You know, we just had a pandemic. I shouldn't mention that word, but we all know about quarantines. And it is, clearly, you wouldn't go into a zone that was quarantined.
49:51 You'd be like, nah, I'm good. I'll stay home. I'm going to go over to this place, you know. So, I don't, it doesn't make sense from that point, from a biblical point of view, either. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think it's fascinating. I'm going to look at the chat real quick. Just want to remind everyone, we got 153 watchers tonight. That's record. So, let's hit that like button, because it really does help. It brings in more people. Every single like that you get actually brings in another person. I've seen it happen. I mean, all of a sudden, we get like 10 more likes, 10 more people come in, and you can see the spike actually happen. Hit that like button on the program, and it will push this video out that way. You can help tell the truth about what's going on here. Let's dig further into this. Top military four-star general, Mark Milley. This is the lead guy. Interesting guy. And I can already see your lips wanting to move on this.
50:45 But let's watch the clip first. It's kind of interesting. Here we go. And now to a story News Nation has been following from the very beginning. The nation's highest ranking army military officer speaking out about UFOs. Following Congress. This historic hearing. Army General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is backing the Pentagon's claims that there is no evidence the U.S. has non-human made vehicles. David Grush, the UFO whistleblower who gave the News Nation exclusive interview, has claimed that the U.S. has a secret alien retrieval program. And General Milley says Grush shared what he believes to be true, but says based on briefings with the Pentagon's UAP office, he has not seen any indications of a cover-up program. Joining us now. Ben Hanson. He is the host of UFO Witness on Discovery+. Ben, thank you for being here. Let's dive right in. So what do you make of the general's comment? Well, honestly, Kelly, it's not all that surprising. If you look at the other statements he made, he said there is a lot of unexplained aerial phenomena out there.
51:47 That's true. He talked about a lot of the reports they're getting that there's some of it that's difficult to explain. So we've heard that from the Pentagon before. But I think a lot. A lot of people kind of assume that those who are in the highest levels of leadership would know everything. And I know this sounds really kind of conspiratorial, but I think we would be surprised that a lot of our elected officials in the executive department, legislative and military probably isolate themselves for plausible deniability. And maybe they're not told on purpose because they're going to be the targets that are going to be called out on the red carpet. Or. They're going to be subpoenaed in hearing. So in my opinion, it's not surprising. All right. I'm going to let you take over the John, because this is this is an interesting character.
52:38 What do you think is going on? Well, I mean, we spoke a little bit before the show on this character. I mean, you can see him. It doesn't take a sophisticated person to do a Google search and see where he flip flops on the Ukraine war on multiple articles, you know, and that's in China, too. So I've seen him flip flop on different things. So, you know, either. He's lying at the first or he's told the wrong information at the beginning and then told different information later. And so I don't know if he's lying or I don't want to put words in his mouth. But about this, I do agree what he's saying. Like, I mean, that guy spoke at the end there. He's like, well, not everybody would be read in on these projects. So, I mean, why would a general be read in on like a R&D project that probably doesn't involve the army? Because, I mean, if anything, it's probably the Air Force. So I like that point that he made. Yeah. Yeah. One hundred percent.
53:26 And I. You know. A lot of people say, well, is the president. Does the president know about this stuff? We don't know where the president. They might consider a temporary employee. I mean, there's a lot of people that are our lifetime workers at this place, and they might have pushed some of these projects off and kind of push some of the money over there. And in different ways, they can do that. That's what was brought out at the congressional hearing this last time that we covered on this channel. If you want to look back at that, I live stream. You can watch it on this channel, but it was a fascinating thing. I would scrub ahead about an hour and a half last hour is the most interesting because it's everything is just kind of intros and pomp and circumstance. But yeah, so it's it's it's no surprise that this is happening right now. I don't want to get too far into. Well, I think this they're they're hiding UAPs and UFOs because that's that's that's really not the point of this channel. It is fascinating, but it's not the point I want to dig into is the religion.
54:28 Yeah. The religious aspect of all this stuff and how it's combining with all this stuff. And there's one thing that I think is fascinating, and that's how fast two forces get together and kind of clash heads when they don't agree with something. And when that happens, I'm talking strictly spiritually now, we see people try to discredit other people and say that they're not telling the truth. Right. We happen. That happens in in. In the Bible, when you're trying to produce the correct message. I mean, they even said Jesus was he's a winebibber. He hangs out with sinners. Right. And they try to discredit him. And so what we're seeing right now is things that are happening that are trying to discredit things in the truth. Watch this. Straight up, do you feel any differently about Grush because of this reporting about him seeking treatment for dealing with what he had to live in Afghanistan?
55:27 Yeah. God bless him for serving our country, keeping us free. My father fought in the Pacific until the day he died. I never would wake him up over his body. I would always grab him by his big toe because I don't know where he thought he was going to be when he woke up. It's a real deal. We deal with it. Now we accept it. And for anybody to discredit one of our veterans for that, to me, is sickening. It is just sickening. I knew about this before it was going to break. Um. Yeah. Yeah. He and I are friends, and we communicate fairly regularly. You know, I'd ask people to pray for him and his family. Unbelievable amount of pressure this guy's been put under. He's a patriot regardless, regardless of all that. You throw his testimony out, you still have two there, two pilots. I guess they're going to go after them next.
56:16 Hell, I don't know. They, you know, they chased UFOs. They saw them. They say everything. And, you know, so it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter. What matters is, is the fact that this man served his country and is suffering for it. And now we are stigmatizing this further. One of my best friends is bipolar. I've received awards from agencies in the state of Tennessee for my, you know, I dealt my legislation and outreach to the folks with mental illness. Look, you cut your hand. Nobody thinks anything in Knoxville about going over to UT Hospital emergency room. You got something going on in your head. There's some stigma attached to it. That is wrong, Chris. You and I both know that's wrong. We, you and I both know, I guarantee have personal close friends that suffer from some sort of mental illness.
57:06 This is a, it's a horrible stigma. This man served his country. Dadgummit. We got to do better than this. I'm so disgusted about this. I just can't. I couldn't. And when I knew about it last night, I woke up at three o'clock this morning. Hell, I couldn't get back to sleep. This is just. I wonder if they had gotten a tip that he had broken his legs. Badly. Would they have reported that if they had gotten a tip that he had dealt with a bout of lung cancer, God forbid, would they have reported that, you know, this is something that you report because you think it reflects on his credibility, which means you're playing to a stigma and you're pushing it cross purposes with the U S government who had no problem with his disposition or mental fitness after the treatment. But here's where we are. I just wanted to check in with you to see if it changed your disposition and the veracity of what he told you. You say, no, good enough for me. Let's go forward. We're over the target, brother. Let's keep the pressure on. If it wasn't for you all breaking this story, we wouldn't be where we are today.
58:03 So God bless y'all. I think I want to hang on this point for a second, because I think there's a lot we can learn from this. Wow. So one thing that comes out to me is that they think they are going and doing the right thing. And what they're opening up Pandora's box is what they're opening up. They try to contact these things. They're finding out they got UAPs or going and searching after these proverbial aliens or whatnot. I mean, the devil's going to make it look like you're doing the right thing. And it's going to go right along with his agenda. That's how it always works. But number two, and the most important thing I want to emphasize here is whenever you're doing something. And I've seen this in my personal life. Whenever you're doing something that is against.
58:53 I'm not saying they're doing something against any spiritual side of things. I'm just saying that whenever you're doing something that is good, 100% good, you go into this and you're going to be spiritually attacked. And it's going to look, and the devil's going to use any tactic, any tactic he can. If you've got sin in your life, if you've got a problem in your life, he's going to use it to discredit you. And we're going to talk a little bit more about this as we get into Tiffany Gomes. Who's the crazy lady on the airplane. Poor girl. I feel really bad for her. But anything. And it will go viral. It will make you look terrible. I actually have fear about this in my own personal life, just doing this. I've thought about it several times. I hate to admit this. But just stopping doing what we're doing here.
59:41 Because, you know, what if that's me someday? What if I get on the news and then they start digging into my background? I mean, we've all got something. I mean, that's why we're on this earth. We're not Enoch. We haven't flown away. And I think everyone should just reflect for a moment and think, even if it's something that's super small, like you have a tendency to gossip. That's actually not a small thing. You have a tendency to gossip. What if that was made known? And that was completely legitimized and broadcast. And all the billions of people on podcast. Planet social media, you know, decided you were a terrible person and needed to be shut down. Poor David Grutch. That's all I have to say. Poor guy. Because he came out with what he believed was truth. And now he's getting attacked by them releasing his medical records.
1:00:41 Something that's HIPAA, supposed to be private. And saying that he is crazy. And he's gone to mental institutions. He's gotten help. He's fine. But I think it's something interesting. What do you think about that, John? Well, that particularly hits me hard, actually. Because my dad served as a nurse at the VA. Helping patients like Grutch. Until he retired. So, I mean, a very long time. And so I've heard, you know, as much as, you know, without releasing HIPAA information, as much as my dad could tell me about some of the situations that he's had to deal with. You know, with some of these soldiers that were very, you know, mentally damaged. In different wars, you know, from Vietnam all the way up until current day. And the fact that they're using that against him to try to make him look like scum. I think that's a very low blow on their side. And actually, in my personal opinion, actually makes them look worse.
1:01:38 You know, that makes them look really bad. Like the side that released that, they look really bad to a lot of people. Especially NEX military. Yeah, 100%. 100%. I'm going to, I have Peru up next. But I'm going to skip it just for now. Because I've talked about the crazy. I'm not going to call her crazy. I think that she's an interesting story that you guys, you guys got to see this. This is fascinating. If you haven't dug into this story, it's really quite interesting. I'm going to skip it. I'm going to do Peru at the end. Because everyone's heard, if you've been on social media just for a little while, you've seen the lady that gets off the plane because she sees, she thinks she sees someone that's not human that's sitting beside her. I'm going to recap that. Warning, it does have language. But I bleeped it out. Take a look at this short recap. This is just a portion of it. Everyone can either believe it or they cannot believe it. I don't give two f**ks. But I am telling you.
1:02:42 And you can sit up. Die with him or not. My goodness. And so obviously she's, she's, she's not 100% hitting on all cylinders. I'll put it that way. And there's something going on there. I mean, obviously, because you would, you would filter that down a little bit if you really believe that. But I mean, if you. If you truly believe that, but, but I still feel bad for her because let's look at what happened. If you guys haven't seen this, this is going to blow your mind because I'm going to show you the guy she sat beside. You ready for this? This is from his own words. Watch this. All right. So the Internet has heard the story of the woman on the plane with the reptilians. But thanks to her delaying the flight, I just got home. So now it's my opportunity to tell my side of the story as the guy in the hood. So we're attempting to fly out of Dallas, Fort Worth.
1:03:36 And then basically this woman, she sits next to me and she's clearly been drinking. I'm minding my own business. And sure enough, she sees my hoodie that has this Freemason logo on it. And on top of that, she noticed my ring. So she started to ask questions. Nothing dramatic. Just ask me, do I know what these symbols mean? Why am I wearing it? What's the purpose? Yada, yada, yada. And long story short, I basically just say, hey, I'm a Freemason. I even briefly explained how I educate about Freemasonry here on TikTok. Next thing I know, she basically starts to grill me about low-level Freemason and that it's all Satanism and that it's ruled by reptilians and blah, blah, blah. So I simply put my hood up and I started to ignore her and basically just mind my own business. She starts getting louder and louder. And then basically she's like, you know that they worship Lucifer at the top, right? So I looked at her dead in her eyes and I said, I am Lucifer. I heard one individual laugh behind me.
1:04:27 So I figured somebody got a kick out of it, at least. She starts running up and down the aisles, freaking out, saying I'm a reptilian. And then I said, I am Lucifer. And then I said, I am Lucifer. And then all this other stuff, she's going to get off the plane, yada, yada, yada. It doesn't show all the footage. It just says that she's trying to get off the plane because of, you know, I'm not going to say it here on TikTok. I don't want to get banned. But then also talking about how, like, I'm secretly also trying to take over the world. So I look back at the guy that was basically chuckling before and I winked at him. So I basically whispered something under my breath saying that Freemasons don't care to rule the world. We rule the universe. And I look back at the guy that was laughing before and just kind of winked at him because he started laughing again. Well, I didn't think that she could hear me, but evidently, she did and it actually escalated it even further and then they delayed the flight and so on and so forth. So moral of the story, don't believe everything you hear on the Internet. And Freemasons don't care to rule the world when we rule the universe. So much to say about that. I'm just going to preface this with we don't know if that guy is truly the guy that sat beside her. But I think it's fascinating that even if that was true, my goodness, if you sat beside someone and he told you he was a Freemason and that, he had all these tattoos on himself and that we rule the world and he's actually Satan.
1:05:38 I don't know if I'd stay on the plane either. To be honest, I don't think I would go out with a bang like her, but I'd be like, OK, that's enough of this today for me. I'm going to go back to bed. What do you think? I got to agree with that, to be fair. I mean, yeah, I don't know if I would have brought up that he has tattoos. Clearly, he knows what he's tattooing on himself. Even if. I mean, I would assume so that he would know that this is what the symbol means before he puts it on his hand. So I probably wouldn't have spoken to him about the tattoos or anything if I had sat next to him. I've flown a lot and I have sat next to some very strange people. But I try to talk about some things that are, you know, just normal, everyday topics, you know, like weather, basic stuff like that, you know, where I'm going, what I'm going to do when I get there, stuff like that. But obviously not giving much.
1:06:27 But but yeah, I mean, if she was drinking and that was on her mind when she saw him, you know, clearly that could have possibly happened. The other thing is that guy could have just made that videos to get clicks. You know, maybe he wasn't sitting next to her. Maybe he saw her go viral and then he made a video about her. So he would go viral, which it seemed to have worked. Right, right. And so, yeah, it could have very much just got him popularity. People do things for clicks nowadays. It's like it's not the the love of money that is pure evil now. Well, maybe it is because clicks give you money, but now it's the love of clicks. But but anyways. She did actually release today, 15, 16 hours ago, a official apology. And so I'm going to play that right now. I want to talk to you about what's in it and what's not in it. Here we go. Hi, everyone. It's me, Tiffany Gomez, probably better known as the crazy plain lady, which is completely warranted.
1:07:28 As you know, I have been unwilling to speak on these videos. I'm not going to be able to speak on these videos. I'm not going to be able to speak on these videos. This is a totally viral video, but I do finally feel that it's time. First and foremost, I want to take full accountability for my actions. They were completely unacceptable. Distressed or not, I should have been. I should have been in control of my emotions. And that was not the case. My use of profanity was completely unacceptable. And I want to apologize to everyone on that plane, especially those that had children aboard. I can't imagine going through that and trying to explain to your kid what in the world just happened. We all have our bad moments, some far worse than others.
1:08:24 And mine happened to be caught on camera for the whole world to see multiple times. Sorry. I'm trying not to sound like Minnie Mouse. Well, it has been really comical for everyone, and I have highly enjoyed so many of the memes. On the flip side, it is very invasive and unkind. And I don't know what I would do without the love and support of my friends and family. They are loyal to a fault, and I don't know what I did to deserve them. And, um, sorry y'all. I hope that I can use this experience and do a little bit of good in the world and that is what I intend to do. I hope that you guys can accept my apology and I can begin to move on with my life.
1:09:25 Mm. Mm. Mm. So I, uh, when I first saw this video, I was like, is that the same person? I I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm not well versed on YouTube anymore. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. on you know picking out facial features and absolutely knowing that this is the right person i'm impressed with it saying this is probably from tmz it has those uh that watermark on there and they probably did their homework uh in in back grounding this hopefully but the the and makeup can change a person's face completely you've seen those those makeup videos ridiculous so i this might be the same person i think it does sound a little bit like her i think she was drinking and i think that's probably what was going on and that's she just got a little bit unfiltered and left the plane um but an apology was interesting because she didn't if this is the same person i assume it is um she didn't back down on her story i thought that was fascinating what do you what do you think john that is very fascinating actually it seemed heartfelt apology again and it was trying to back any excuses which is kind of nice you know but i do wonder like about why she didn't speak about what happened you know maybe she didn't feel the need to or anything i don't know fascinating yeah and so i i think she did the right thing i think um she i mean she shut off all social media this is why i feel bad about someone because when you become someone that talks about something let's say that her thing was she wanted to talk about this you not necessarily the probably what she wanted to do but um if she was a on social media and she got viewed by many different people let's say like this and she went viral um she got a lot of criticism and she shut up all social media she did she she canceled herself she's a marketing professional i think if i remember right and uh she wanted off of social media that means no income basically because uh you know that's how you market yourself you're in marketing um and so that's that's a hard decision to make and so coming out with a video like this and saying hey look i'm sorry essentially gets her back into her jobs and stuff and hopefully uh gets a little bit of her income back but i feel for people like this david i feel for um for her what is her name again i'm going to find it tiffany tiffany gomes i think g-o-m-e-s i I hate the doxer like that. I'm not trying to do that, but that was the name that I saw. And I feel terrible.
1:12:06 I don't think that people should be so quick to pound someone, even if they were wrong. You know, it gives people grace. I believe the Bible says that. I mean, if you were in her shoes and you did something wrong, you had a sin. Let's say hers was misusing alcohol. And, oh, man, just put yourself in her shoes for a second. So I think we all need to think about that, no matter if you're her, Gomez, Gomes, what's his name? Grutch. Grutch, Gomez. Whatever. Get them all. Or there's been a number of them. Everyone that's in the news now, I try not to put too much weight on, because poor, poor person. They're just being completely destroyed by social media.
1:13:01 Anyway, that rant over. We have another thing. Go ahead. What do you want to say? Oh, no. I was just rubbing my nose because, I don't know, I itch all the time. So I want to talk a little bit about you found something, and you dug into this a little bit. This is the Peru chaos that's been going on. Now, Peru has been experiencing some wildness. Wild things, and I don't think it's their, I don't think this is unusual for them. Do you, can you preface this with anything? Yeah. I mean, I did a lot of digging on it. Maybe we can talk about that after the video, but I've lived in Bolivia. I lived there for six months. I lived in Guatemala for two years. So, I mean, I get to see a lot of the cultural stuff in these, in these different countries and they, they believe in what they call Brujeria, you know, like the witchcraft.
1:13:53 Uh, they believe in this, they have ancient, you know, like in Peru, I'm sure it would be the Inca that would be, you know, ancient Inca empire, the descendants of the empire that they're still doing the same religious rituals in the background. And the same with, uh, Guatemala, except for that would be the Maya, you know, that would be the, there'd be Mayan descendants. So there's a lot of their culture that is in it with their religion, the ancient religion, not Catholicism or some kind of a beat. So in that you tend to have spiritualism. Yeah. A lot of that is just experiences more often than anyone in, you know, United States culture would. So that's what, that's how I'd preface this video. And there's something to that because um, I there's spirit and spirituality no matter what, if you're calling up demons and you think they're your gods, or if you're calling up God himself and the good angels, um, of the Bible, then there is something about having a number of people doing the same type of worship.
1:14:50 Whether it's chanting and going and doing these. this new age ritual or, you know, or reading the Bible. The Bible says that we're two more gathered. There he is. And there's power in that, in having a community praying for you. That's a serious law of, well, what do I say? Engagement, right? The rules of engagement are that you have many more people that are on the same path as you. You're going to have more spiritual power because that's the way it's hooked up. Now, this is what I think is coming down the lines. And this is what I'm really worried about the UAP thing, because, and maybe I'm getting sidetracked here on a rabbit trail, but when we start calling out to these things, or when we start believing in UAPs, we're bringing in the same spirituality that's happening down there. And then you're going to have all these people calling out for these aliens, and you're going to have a lot more power on one side versus the other. Now, God is much more powerful than all these people, but he is bound by the courts and the rules of engagement as Satan is. And so it's a clever tactic. Do you have anything to say before I play this video? No, I think you hit the nail on the head. I think you get these groups of people starting to believe in this stuff, you know, and whether you look at, you know, we've had where you've talked about how the ancient demons appear as, you know, they have blood and stuff like that.
1:16:20 And that's how it's described in, you know, strings and whatnot. So it is, these people still believe, and that's what they still see. And that's, and now the same thing is going to happen now in the United States as well. I think I understood you. You're breaking up quite a bit, unfortunately, but I think I understood what you're saying. I don't know what it is tonight. Something weird going on. I'm going to buy a new internet. I'll tell you what, man. All right. All right. Here we go. Here's the video. And now I'm going to ask everyone, if you're listening to this, you got to pick up the phone. You got to look at the video. Because you're going to have to read because this is in a different language. And if you don't understand it, then it's going to be fast. Here's a minute and nine seconds. Here we go. Pobladores de una comunidad indĂgena en la selva de PerĂş aseguran que extraterrestres invadieron su comunidad y aunque se defendieron a tiros, las balas no les hacen nada. Este impresionante video captĂł ese instante en que los habitantes le disparan a los supuestos seres, como ven, medio de la noche.
1:17:29 Los vecinos dicen que estĂĄn aterrorizados. Ellos describieron a los entes como gigantes que miden casi siete pies de altura y que visten trajes que parecen de astronautas. Vamos a escuchar. Los miembros de la comunidad estĂĄn haciendo vigilias por las noches para protegerse y tratar de capturar a los supuestos seres extraterrestres que dicen habrĂan atacado a una joven. La verdad es muy extraĂąo este caso. Okay, so they actually didn't show the images. I've seen the images and they're terrible. And we're leaving a lot of terrible out here because we don't want to make this rated less than what it already is because it's pretty gruesome. And we're not sure yet. This is something we're following. We're not sure if this is spiritual or if this is something else. Go ahead, John. What do you think is going on here? Well, hopefully my internet will handle this, but in all the research I did, there appears to be incidents going all the way back to 2008 of what they call Los Pelacaras, which is the face peelers. But the legend is based on the fact that these people come in a hood usually or with armor, one of the two, and they're bearded white people. They call them gringos, obviously. And that's how they come.
1:19:11 And they take the people. The legend goes that they peel their face off, they take their organs out, and they fill the corpse with money or jewels or other things. And then they leave these bodies. So when the people find them, they find the money and it's kind of like a gift to the person so that the person doesn't go to the authorities with it. And that's the legend. It's pretty gruesome, honestly. Oh, that's terrible. Ah, you didn't tell me that. That's been going on since 2008. Yeah, I was kind of saving it. My goodness. Yeah. So what's the point? What's the point of doing that? Why would they do that gruesome thing and then give someone money? Well, I mean, I hate to say this, but in Guatemala, it's very known that one of the most lucrative businesses that these people do, not the people of Guatemala, but these cartels or whatever you want to call them, you know, these horrible people, is that they traffic humans or organs.
1:20:02 And so it's a very lucrative business. So they're finding young people, usually 15 to 20 years old, because that's when the organs are in the prime condition, and they will take the organs out and then put them, and then they transport them, and then they sell them to hot stuff as, you know, donations. But obviously, donations with money cost. But then they, of course, leave the money there so that people don't go to the police, and then the police don't find out. And then they'll pay out well, because these people are very... Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't want to know anymore. I'd hate for that to happen. And I do believe that at the end, we're going to experience some pretty gruesome things, and I don't think it's going to be human. It might be human, but it might be possession. I think that we need to keep an eye on what type of spirituality is going on down here and what is allowed, because if you're part of God's church, you are protected. But there's going to be a lot of terrible that's going on. And so that's terrible. We're going to keep an eye on what's happening here, because I think it's fascinating. The mainstream media down there is saying that this is aliens.
1:21:09 I also found it interesting that, and you don't have to say everything you told me, but tell me what the general thought is on the technology in the U.S. and what they think about the U.S. and everything like that. That gives us an idea of understanding. Well, in my travels, specifically in Guatemala, because I didn't speak Spanish when I was living in Bolivia, so I didn't get to talk to all the natives. But in Guatemala, I got to learn Spanish, so I was able to speak to people in different languages. I was able to speak to people in different towns and different villages and stuff. And I would speak to them. And I talked to them about stuff. And we talked about all kinds of stuff. And they would come across and be like, oh, so our, you know, I saw Star Trek. It's amazing that the United States can go to the stars like this. And they can do these kind of things. And I was like, what are you talking about? That's a movie. And so it's, they don't have where the limit of actually in the small town, village, mountains and stuff. Just think, well, this is the United States. What would we see? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And so they, they'll find out. You're breaking, you're breaking out pretty bit. You're breaking out quite a bit. But what you said was they see what they see on in the movies is what they believe the United States has because it's United States people. And, and that's, that's another plug for what you take in is what you believe. And, yeah, yeah. Be dangerous, what we put into our minds.
1:22:35 And, and so they, they believe that this is what's going on there. So I have. Actually had, and sorry I stopped you halfway through that. I wanted to make sure that your video is working. But I've had mission stories that have come back and told me that when they were out in these villages, I forget exactly where, but they would come back and say, those creatures that you have in your movies, you know, in Star Wars, those are the ones that come and attack my village. And they would say that. They would say, yeah, we've had Yoda. We've had Spider-Man. And we've had things like that come and attack us. And so I don't think that was a gringo coming and attacking. I mean, I'm not talking about this instance. Maybe this instance was absolutely like traffickers or something like that. Go ahead. Well, one thing they do mention in that video that you showed, I don't know if it's what we just saw, but that guy in the blue and yellow shirt, he says it was like the Green Goblin from Spider-Man. Interesting. Huh. So that's fascinating. So that leads me to believe that this might be a little more spiritual, but maybe it's, I don't know.
1:23:43 We're going to follow this story and kind of keep track of it because it's an interesting development that's happening. And I think we're going to have more and more unique, strange instances that are going to become a more and more normal part of our life as things grow into this strange new normal that we know is going to start happening. Wow. Wow. So what else? Go ahead. What are you going to say? Well, I don't want to, I mean, I was going on, I researched, but that may not be anything to do with, this is what they're calling it, but this might be a more spiritual thing that happened to them. Like you say, I mean, this very well could be because they, they, they, they're reporting that on the news. They're reporting that it's extraterrestrials or there's another news story that's saying it's miners searching for gold, which doesn't really, I don't really understand why they would say that. How can a miner fly? Because they say they shot it. It didn't die. And then it flew away. Oh, they said that. And I don't see a miner doing that.
1:24:39 Yeah. Ooh. See. Spanish comes in handy sometimes. Yeah. So that's, that's interesting that they, and they also, I read an article where they said that they shot the guy, they shot this thing and it, it, it disappeared. It, it, it shot up or, or left. And they said, we shot it. We know we hit it. And it, it left. So that leads me to believe this thing's not, it's a NHI as the, as the government calls it. And who knows? Yeah. Who knows? But I, I think that as, as things move on and progress down, down the road that we know we're on right now, we're going to see a lot of more strange and spiritual things that are happening. So keep your eyes peeled. Do you have any last thoughts? Go for it. Yeah. What do you think of the fact of maybe what we're going to see is legends being used by spiritual entities? So you see, this has been a legend since 2008.
1:25:34 And the original legend could have been based on true events of real cartel stealing people's organs. But then spiritual entities take that legend and go further with it and, and imitate it in a way to trap the people. Yeah. Yeah. We have seen, I do remember that there is, you know, Greek gods, you know, all this stuff, Zeus and all this other stuff. I, I, uh, these things like to identify as gods. They like to identify as, as these, these legends. And so who knows? I think that might actually come to be. Um, we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen yet, but that's kind of the purpose of Strange Normal Research Group. And I'm going to plug this real quick. This is important to me. It's important to everybody here. If you want to be a part of the Strange Normal Research Group, you can go to patreon.com slash strange normal.
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