0:00 and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data.
0:52 Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What I guess in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official saying stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic?
1:42 Correct. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God, always, showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help?
2:32 There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightnings was starting shooting from the sky. Wow. And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere. And then they, on the morning, they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means.
3:31 So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group. He says, we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And they're not idiots looking beings. They are gorgeous creatures. Did you ever witness necromancy or even something that would be popularly called channeling today took place? The man shook his head a little bit like this. His eyes went glazed. And he stayed at it for a half hour. And the spirit spoke to him. The voice changed him, the person, completely. He said, if you think that's amazing, wait, he says, until the spirits impersonate one, two, three, four, five, no, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, and he will say, I am the spirit of the departed people that you know.
4:34 Personally, like an uncle or a brother or a sister or something like that. Says that is unique. The spirits are exceedingly proud of this. We're now less than 16 minutes away. Barbara Batholek. Whitley Strever. Both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. I was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade and after my conversion, if you will, I felt it. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus' name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination? To be perfectly honest, a demon. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it.
5:54 Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently, that invite extends even to Martians. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.
6:44 Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here, since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're just, discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the, I saw the interview, or not the interview, but the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye opening. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name. His name is Tanzaniti, and he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it.
7:58 And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. My name is Tom DeLong. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink 182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon than, and that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men in flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. We've passed the 11-minute mark. Now, T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible in other religions and the UFO.
9:13 phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man period and something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be over the next 10 years I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ this is documented evidence mark t-minus 10 minutes and counting t-minus 10 the strategy that Werner von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy in fact when I met him in 74 they were the enemy the identified enemy then terrorists would be identified and that was soon to follow we heard a lot about terrorism then we were going to identify third-world country crazies we now call them nations of concern and the next enemy was asteroids now at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it and the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens extraterrestrials that would be the final card and over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him he would bring up that last card and remember the last card is the alien part we're gonna have to build space based weapons against aliens and all of it he said is a lie are there other religions I'm curious David that you know that all the the research that you've done that are more open to the idea yeah I would say there are you know Hindus and Buddhists you know Tibetans or whatnot the idea of the world of technology is that we could go as far as to get our extraterrestrial life and things like that i think they have no problem with that and ufos uh particularly in hindu and buddhist tradition there they have ufos ufos have been flying around for thousands of years according to them they call them vimanas they have whole texts about it and so that's the other thing say with the vatican too is that ufo sightings have been going on for thousands of years uh mormons as well believe in extraterrestrial life and uh i mean they are also a religion that that wouldn't have any problems with that i think a lot of you know modern day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets and the idea that we're not alone in the universe is you know a pretty standard idea now you are saying to the human race for the first time an official intelligence representative at a high level from the us government is saying publicly we are not alone we're definitely not alone absolutely the data points empirically that we're not alone the inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint they found after interviewing myself in the subjects and other subjects that i'm not even cognizant on who they were they found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials.
12:56 Something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence? While I can't get into the specifics, because that would reveal certain US classified operations, I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we like to say in our language.
13:44 Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give us. The truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help you God. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.
14:36 And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. Mr. Grush, why is it that you refer to the phenomenon as non-human intelligence? Why deviate from the basis of extraterrestrial life? I think the phenomenon is very complex, and I like to leave an open mind analytically to specific origin. When you say specific origin, can you elaborate on that for those that might not know? If it's a traditional extraterrestrial origin or something else that we don't quite understand from either a biological or astrophysics perspective, I just like to keep an open mind on what it could be. We're now passing the four minute, 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. And the priest told us, could I have a bit more of your time?
15:40 I want to do something very fascinating. He says, the grain plane, the master's grain plane, for harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said, it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plane is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff. Because he says, spirits, demon spirits, will declare them. And they're going to be the inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet, unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. T minus three minutes and counting. T minus three. We are go with all elements of the mission at this time.
17:59 We're just past the two minute mark in the countdown. T minus one minute, 54 seconds and counting. All indications coming in. That to the control center at this time indicate we are go. Guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds, leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds. T minus 60 seconds and counting. We've passed T minus 60. Trees to the universe we were never meant to solve. But who we are and why we are here are not among them.
19:47 Ignition sequence start. Six, five, four, three, two, one. You have no audio, Brad. That was such a good intro, too. Well, if we have any lip readers out there, I'm sure they'll enjoy it. Well, welcome everybody. I'm going to have to clip that last part right there. Welcome to Strange Normal. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what's going on. I just had lots of stuff happening and I was just telling you tonight, I got four minutes before we called. The reason why I was muted. It was because.
22:16 It was because I was actually talking on the phone to a friend who said, things are happening right now out in my little town. Round glowing orbs are hovering above the strange little area and he's not sure if it's Starlink or if it's something else, but it's something and he says, you got to get out here and look at it right now. And I can't. I can't. I said, I got to do the show. I can't debunk this or confirm it, but he said, I'll take video of it and send it to you later. Eric, there's a lot of things going on. And so I was going to give him a little rundown. To what was happening and I can't believe, I can't believe I forgot to unmute myself after I got that call, but we are back and we're going to do it. So let me give you Eric a little bit of rundown what we're, what we're happening. We're going to talk about Joe Rogan. He's back again, pushing his propaganda saying they, they might have made us. He's absolutely sure of this. Jay Stratton. This adds a huge amount of depth. We haven't talked about Jay Stratton yet because he's a, I think he was the original UAP guy.
23:15 Yeah. He was the UAP guy at the Pentagon before, um, the other guy took his place. I forget the other guy's name at the moment, but we're going to get into that now. I'll have it in my notes here. Uh, we also going to get into the, the last F-35 plane that's been all over the news and that's significant because we're going to, even though it doesn't quite dive too deep into the UAP, uh, uh, topic, it actually does have a little bit to do with it. And we're going to, we're going to tie that in nicely, uh, into that while we're talking about that topic. And we're also going to talk finally about the alleged, uh, aliens that were stolen, use my finger quotes, from Peru and taken to Mexico. And Mexico is, uh, is putting on display saying they're legitimate. And I think it's fascinating, but we're going to, we're going to show you all aspects of that. Let you decide what you think about it. And it's, it's, um, it's going to be an interesting show, Eric. How are you tonight, by the way? I'm fine. I feel it's, uh, I have a, that's fine. Yeah. It's a recap for what I missed.
24:17 So what everybody missed. So I think we're good to go now. Could you hear me? Was that, or you couldn't hear me either? No. Ah, so I, uh, I'll clip that for that first part and we'll just go from there. It's going to take a couple of days for it to clip, but anyways, uh, mine is, well, do you have anything to say before we dive right into it? Nope. Let's go. Let's do it. Here we go. So this is Joe Rogan. I want to talk a little bit about what he says. I love to watch organisms. Do you don't think they'd want to watch us? No. They don't want to watch us. Yeah. But ultimately we mess around with those penguins. The aliens would mess around with us. I think they might be. I think they might've made us. They might've made us. We might really be a biology project and it's not a joke. If you think about the, the, there's a weird thing with primates and us, we're so far past them. Yes. We are so in another dimension of reality with communication, with our ability to create technology and, and, and alter the world.
25:15 We're in a weird place. Like how'd we get here so quick? Like how did that happen? How'd the doubling of the human brain size, the biggest mystery in the entire, entire biological record, how'd that happen? It didn't Joe. Yeah. Talk about how to destroy your podcast is to talk about something that's absolutely absurd. Anyway, I, I, I digress, but he, he is, um, clearly beginning with the wrong foundation. And so he's coming to these conclusions. And I think it's fascinating that so many scientists are like, look, the primates are so close to us. And now he's saying, look, they're so far away from us. It's like they have two different minds of brother themselves. I know you love Joe Rogan, don't you? Eric? No. I mean, I find him entertaining. I mean, I think he interviews some interesting people and he's, you know, funny when he's in his comic mode.
26:06 But, um, well, I mean, here's the thing is not everybody starts out with a biblical foundation. And so when you have a new piece of information, you're going to put it in your mind. You're going to process it and incorporate it into whatever your current foundation worldview is. And so obviously, and that's, you know, Satan has prepared deceptions and traps for every type of belief system. So it's like, okay, you know, atheists will look at UFOs and see one thing, whereas people of a different, you know, the new age will think another thing and they, everybody will think that like, that we know we have the truth. And. Yeah. Yeah. And that's true. And that's true. And that's true. I mean, it's not like they can be, that can be one of the comments about what we do on this channel and those with the Bible, uh, biblical based belief system. But I, you know, I would say the difference really lies in the word of God.
26:57 Um, if, if you don't believe that the Bible is the word of God, then you, yeah, of course you're not going to believe in its interpretation of anything. Um, but if you look at God's word for yourself and everybody's convicted, you know, everybody that I know who is convicted of the truth of God's word. It's something different. for everybody, but everybody who's convicted of it, there's something in there that is the initial conviction that show you're like, wow, it's light bulb. And then you delve deeper and it just gets stronger. And so anybody who's skeptical, I mean, look for yourself. There've been plenty of people who have tried to disprove the Bible and they've ended up believing in it. And so anyways, I'm going off on a tangent now, but all that's to say is like, I can't, I can't hold too much against Joe because, you know, where he was a few years ago, and now he's, he started, you know, they read the book of revelation or part of the book of revelation on his show. You know, you see these, these high profile people who they're being exposed to ideas that are challenging their, their preconceived notions. And so I have to give them credit at least for being willing to look at the information instead of just shutting it down and being able to entertain the idea like, Hey, maybe there's something different going on here. So it's, it's, it's absolutely, crazy. Yeah. And so I think it's, it's, it's fascinating that, I mean, I just catch a clip. I don't actually watch his show very much, but it seems that people push out these clips of him talking about UFOs and aliens and how he's convinced they created us and all this other stuff. It really is interesting that the, I'd say the biggest podcaster on the internet right now is, is, uh, 100% convinced and pushing the idea that these things are, are, are, are friend. And we're going to get into that tonight. In fact, I, I think this, uh, this next segment kind of proves that they aren't our friend, but, uh, let's talk a little bit about J. Stratton. I think his name is S-T-R-A-T-T-O-N. Uh, J. Stratton was the Pentagon official that, uh, led a lot of the UFO stuff at the Pentagon legitimately. Um, and, uh, let's find out more about him instead.
29:08 What does our government know about the UFO mystery? One long time intelligence official has seen more of the Pentagon files than anyone. He is the only military man to work on three major UFO investigations, including one based here in Las Vegas. The official is J. Stratton, and he has never spoken in public or even granted an interview, that is, until he sat down with our very own George Knapp of our 8 News Now investigators. When a mysterious object dubbed the Tick, Tack UFO befuddled U.S. Navy aviators and sensors off the coast of San Diego in 2004, the incident was dropped, not investigated. The first in-depth probe happened five years later under the auspices of a then secretive program called OSAP, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program, created by the Defense Intelligence Agency with black budget funding spearheaded by Nevada Senator Harry Reid. Tick, Tack was the first UFO incident tackled by the Pentagon. Tick, Tack was the first UFO incident tackled by OSAP and its contractor, Las Vegas aerospace pioneer Robert Bigelow. The report was released by us in 2018. Jay Stratton is the man who wrote it. Every time I've done anything related to UAP or UFO has been my job. And what I mean by that, I didn't really have a passion growing up. I didn't have all the books. I didn't watch all the TV shows. I stepped into a job at the Defense Intelligence Agency where some things came across the desk. That was a lot of work. I worked in the Navy. I worked in the From 2008 until 2021, pretty much everything UFO-related came across Jay Stratton's desk.
30:46 He made the decision to ditch the term UFO and use UAP instead, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. Stratton worked at the highest levels of naval intelligence, then was loaned to the DIA, where he excelled at reverse engineering. He and his colleague, rocket scientist Dr. James Lekatsky, kept seeing reports of unknown craft, but learned there was no central location where such mysteries were being analyzed. You know, all the stories you hear, right, there's probably the office that deals with this, and as we tried to find that office, we found nothing. So they created one. Stratton's colleague, Dr. Lekatsky, had been reading about a UFO hotspot nicknamed Skinwalker Ranch. After a visit to the Utah property, Lekatsky pitched the idea. The creation of a formal investigation. Harry Reid agreed to fund it. Robert Bigelow landed the contract. Stratton consulted with the OSAP program, and then with its successor, AATIP. When the head of AATIP, Lou Elizondo, resigned and revealed its existence to the New York Times in 2017, Stratton was asked by his boss if he'd jump back in and cobble together a new program.
31:53 He did, and that effort was eventually formalized by Congress with a new name, the UAP Task Force. One of Stratton's projects was the creation of a comprehensive but classified briefing that included UAP videos and photos collected by the military. Most of those images are still unreleased, but a few, objects encountered off the East Coast and even stranger objects buzzing Navy ships on the West Coast, were leaked, then publicized. Stratton scoffs at the debunkers who've tried to explain them away as flares or drones or birds. Splashed. There's a lot of cleanup to do. When you have a lot of these people saying it's birds or whatever they're saying, it's frustrating because you know the rest of the story, and you can't tell the rest of the story. In 2021, Stratton left the task force, but his work formed the basis of a stunning report to Congress.
32:45 Stratton's chief scientist was Dr. Travis Taylor, now well-known for his television appearances. Of 144 incidents investigated by the task force, 143 were considered unidentified. Stratton and Taylor now work together. for Radiance Technologies, a defense contractor with offices in 17 states, including Nevada. When Stratton and Taylor showed up in the audience of an Alabama UAP conference last summer, UFO circles were abuzz with questions about what their employer might be up to. Filmmaker Jeremy Korbel brought his cameras to record our interviews. Stratton admitted there are still more questions than answers. You probably remember the infamous quote from Congress that, let's hope it's aliens. George Knapp, 8 News. So there you go. There's a little background before we got into, I guess, the history of this whole thing.
33:38 I thought there was even more history behind it. Fascinating, because even NASA is saying, you know, I hope it's aliens. What caught your eye? Anything in that video clip, Eric? I just think it's part of the trickle of disclosure and I think getting people acclimated. People are hearing these names in the news like Lou Elizondo. And now Jay Stratton, they're going to hear more things. And it's just going to it's not meant to, like, give all the information right now. It's just to kind of over time, people will hear them. Oh, yeah, that guy, you know, whereas we, you know, people have been talking about it for much longer than that, which is what we do here. And it's like that I have to I very rarely think of the fact that most people are not up to date on like current events or things that are going on. It's like I just think, oh, is everybody's, you know, people don't know this, but it's like we're. You have to put forth effort.
34:32 Otherwise, all that you're going to have is the narrative that's being fed to you. And that's not a good position to be in. Yeah, 100 percent. Yeah. It's amazing how many people I go up to and I'm like, you know, the government's on the news talking about things they're seeing. And there's cases of military officials that have died due to walking up to these weird lights and have head trauma. And they're like, what? Really? And so I started I went on the. Application called TV eyes and went and searched today and tried to find. How much of mainstream media news is actually talking about this? Because I don't I all my cards shown, I don't frequent mainstream media at all. And if something comes across, usually it's on Reddit. Usually it's on Twitter. It's on social social media somewhere. And I'm like, oh, that's an interesting clip. Or I go out and I look in the normal sources to find this stuff. News Nation, you know, the Hill is kind of covering this stuff quite a bit. But they aren't.
35:30 They're cable news networks. They're not really the ABC, the CBS, the NBC, the things that really carry this into the public. And so I was surprised to find that there is actually a lot covering the Mexico alien thing. But I'm getting way ahead of myself. We're two segments from that section yet. But it is getting out there. It is becoming more and more popular to talk about this. But it is a definite trickle, a steady trickle, just like you said, of information. That's being sent. I got one more clip of Jay Stratton from another YouTuber. And he kind of provides a little more information, some of the same information. But it re-solidifies it in your head because I think we're going to see a lot more of this guy as things move on. Here's the next clip. This is Jay Stratton. He was a naval intelligence officer who, over the course of 30 years, held many positions in the Department of Defense.
36:27 Many don't know his name. Because he's only just recently retired and made his first public appearances. But while in the government, Stratton was involved with UFOs in Skinwalker Ranch for at least 15 years. Back in 2007, Stratton says he read the book Hunt for the Skinwalker, along with his co-worker James Lukatsky, at the Defense Intelligence Agency. Our previous report debunks many aspects of this book, which contains many spooky stories, but provides no evidence. At all, to back up any of its claims. Despite this, both Stratton and Lukatsky were fascinated by the book and its stories of UFOs, ghosts, and monsters. Lukatsky lobbied Senator Harry Reid to acquire $22 million to study UFOs in Skinwalker Ranch. Lukatsky was the director of this study, a program called AWESAP, and Stratton was a lead investigator.
37:27 In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, In Lukatsky's self-published book, Stratton writes, But it's now been confirmed to me by multiple sources that Axelrod is Stratton. The book says Stratton first went to Skinwalker Ranch in 2009, and while there he became possessed or infected with a poltergeist, and that it followed him home and tormented his family. The following is a partial list of what Stratton reportedly encountered. A huge, wolf-like creature, screaming black shadowy humanoids, nightmarish dogmen, dark humanoid creatures. Even after OSAP was shut down in 2012, Stratton continued his pursuit of the paranormal, utilizing his position at the Pentagon to move the needle. It's reported that Stratton used his clout to create an official UFO task force within the Pentagon. He would then become the director of this task force. Oh, that sounds so benevolent, doesn't it, Eric?
38:35 So Pentagon official became interested in this whole thing, and this isn't the first time this has happened. You tell the story as a pen name in another book because you don't want to reveal who you are in the Pentagon or some official source, which makes sense, but he's had an experience. Every single person that really digs into this, and tries to push this message forward as it is, seems to have had an experience of some kind where they want to dig into it further. But what's really always fascinating to me, Eric, is that it's not always good, a good experience. And yet, most of them push the idea that, oh, these things are benevolent, and it's a good thing. But over and over and over again, we come to the conclusion that... This isn't something that a holy angel would want to happen to me. This isn't something that I can absolutely say is a characteristic of an angelic being that wants nothing more than to help me.
39:44 And so I'm at a loss. And a part of this program, as you know, is to follow what's going on in media and see how this is progressing. Because we know the ultimate ending in this is Revelation 16, 14, which says, you know, they will go out to try to make war with the second coming of Christ. But how is that all happening? How is that all coming to fruition? And we're seeing that right now, because there's lots of other gears and cogs turning. What do you think about this, Cliff? Well, I just think it's kind of disturbing that they're using, that they're acclimating the public to Skinwalker Ranch. Which, anybody who's watched this channel knows that. Yeah. It's one of the most disturbing channels for any length of time, or there's a few other channels that talk about Skinwalker Ranch. It's one of the more disturbing places involved with UAP and demonic activity. And so I don't know what the purpose of that is. Could be many things, but none of them good.
40:44 You can be sure of that. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm becoming more and more convinced that there's going to be definitely a good cop, bad cop, as I've been seeing here in the chat. People saying it's a good cop, bad cop. It's a, I mean, the whole spiritual realm that is on the wrong side of things is going to be playing, yeah, we're the good guys, yeah, we're the bad guys. Because obviously Jesus said it himself, that kingdom is divided and you can't hold it together because everyone does what they want. No one, there's hardly any hierarchy in it because there's no cohesion when you are all your own individual. Yeah. And so, anyway, that's a whole other Bible study, I guess. But I don't know, unless you have another thought, let's move on to this next section. We're going to talk about the F-35 plane.
41:40 Is anybody in the chat? I want to see the chat real quick. I haven't seen any red flags, so I don't know if you guys are paying attention. Yeah. I don't know. The last while, nobody's been putting red flags in the chat. I don't know. People have abandoned us. I see one a while back from Nicole. Yeah. so yeah that last one no red flags on skinwalker ranch come on oh where's the flag uh sarah says oh it's it's the uh oh what is it an emoji uh let me see if i can find it you can you can google it there'll be emoji sites where you can just copy and paste and uh anyway if you see a red flag i'll put one in in the chat here um wave your red flag as you know that that there's definitely something that's that's up something's up here um if you have any comments i'm also interested in seeing what people are saying here this is this is a fascinating topic we have about 92 viewers so far right now we're climbing so uh hit that like button it actually does help quite a bit we're low on our likes tonight um hit that like button if you're watching this it actually does bring in more live viewers i don't know how it works but you always see i always see us jumping in live viewers as soon as that like button hits and then we'll see you in the next video like button is hit and um and and continue to comment we want to see what's going on and we want you to see that you're you are fascinated by what's going on even if you're watching this archived commenting later actually really does help the program and uh i i hate to go to the program and seeing zero comments i'm like somebody watching this how do i have 2 000 views and zero comments so let's let's let's keep the show on the road um this lost f-35 plane eric you you've been following this quite a bit in the discord um this is a fascinating thing i i first i was like what is what is this what is this uh i don't understand this but then i remembered something a long time ago and we're going to get into that uh that uh something that uh former fbi a 25 year veteran fbi john de souza said about airplanes and ufos i'm going to tease that and let that settle just for a second we're going to get into that and find out how these planes connect to this story but first if you haven't seen this plane on the news take a look at this let me ask you about the f-35 how does the u.s military lose a 100 million dollar plane that will be something that they will investigate the believe me after every aviation mishap the pentagon does what the pentagon does they'll investigate it to try to get the answers on what happened um and they'll also i'm sure look at their own search and recovery efforts of the aircraft itself to see um whether that was conducted uh in uh in all the appropriate ways they'll they'll investigate this and as the defense department always does they'll be transparent about it when they when they find the answers yeah they're always are they always the the defense department's always transparent about everything as soon as the guy is such a clown just i can imagine what it was like working for him when i've met people like him he he can tell he just says a lot without saying anything and it's no that's one thing you can be guaranteed about the defense department will not be transparent so okay so so what happened here they they lost the plane um i think we're going to find out a little more about this but do you have like a summary of what's going on eric they the plane just went down yeah in the u.s that's that's the summary the plane went down nobody seems to know more than that um yeah it was in the u.s i think it was a south carolina or something like that um but yeah it's there's there's been details that have emerged and you've got some clips coming up here that are going to shed some light on that and they put out kind of like an official reason without trying to tell too much and people are just none of nobody seems to be buying it at least no none of the the um talking heads that i've that i listen to on a regular basis it's even the mainstream is like that doesn't really make sense what you're telling us and so um yeah let's just let's get into the other clips so that we can get a bigger picture this is
45:58 fascinating this is a this is a testimony from a resident uh that was this guy i'm gonna play this one this was hilarious uh um of he well he was in his house and he heard the plane go down and he was like well this is just watch just watch he explains it i was in the uh in the bathroom taking a shave and i heard a screeching between a screech and a whistle this and i heard a boom in my whole house white says he didn't realize it was a plane at the time so he didn't call anybody the first thought came to me i thought that must what's the meteorite come out of space or something and i said well there's an airplane it needed to be reported the thing was flying just too low so yesterday evening i said the helicopters i was out there walking and choppers keep flying around there was something like somebody must have the bankers killed some people or whatever i walked up there he told me it was about the plane and we can laugh about this because everyone survived even the pilot but every single time that gets me i i love his uh reenactment he's gonna be a meme forever the internet will immortalize him so fantastic um do you have that is the 911 call next yeah um i'm gonna play well i want to see what dan bongino says about it i think it was okay okay and then we'll we'll dig into actually the 911 call is last and uh um because i want to get more of the summary of what happened and i think dan bongino is going to give that a little bit so check this out an f-35 our most advanced next generation fighter the f-35 yeah this plane is unbelievable an f-35 the original story was that a marine pilot ejected from the f-35 while it was still on autopilot and the plane just magically disappeared and yet now again i i don't believe anything about this yet so i applied to bongino role i'm only putting what they're saying out there i'm not telling you i vouch for it they're saying they found the wreckage from the plane uh it's an 80 million dollar stealth jet somewhere near i believe south carolina that it crashed after i don't run out it ran out of gas or whatever autopilot i have no idea what's going on here i don't know what's going on here i don't know i i'm again again i'm i'm not sure what i believe or don't believe about this thing at all however folks after a couple of days here and the silence around this thing and this abc story as marines continue to search this is before they found it for the f-35 after quote mishap officials order a two-day stand down for all jets what why the stand down don't you think it's a little weird that there are now reports about chinese uh naval vessels and aircraft around taiwan at the exact same time an f-35 disappears like was this some kind of message from china was this plane hacked why would a pilot eject out of a what we know at least functioning aircraft that wound up flying after he ejected apparently for quite a long time he poses some interesting points and i actually i i think that's a fascinating concept me being in it i mean what what could the worst fear be of a pilot being having your your uh your plane hacked but then again you're so far away from china right now and i don't see any balloons in the sky so how are they going to hack it but well any device i mean you know you don't need the device doesn't need to be in china if you've got chinese you know agents of the chinese government or whomever on the ground one thing that i do know about the f-35 i'm not like an expert on it but um i have been known to geek out about military stuff from time to time and uh the f-35 is like pretty much the most networked uh jet that was that's part of its thing um i don't really care for the plane for a variety of reasons but one thing it does do a lot better than a lot of current jets that the u.s military has is network ability and sending and receiving information to other units so as you know from it anytime you make a network connection vulnerability so that you know absolutely yeah that has interesting implications i would hate for it to uh be on the internet while it's flying around that's for sure but um i'm sure they've
50:45 taken uh precautions for that but what what i would be more concerned about is if there was you know like you said uh local like someone plugged in the wrong usb drive and it it uploaded and uh who knows what could happen well is that the only is that the only damn mug you know clip you have that is yeah okay so there's and he goes on to say he goes on to talk about basically the idea that uh you know if if that was something that could be hacked into if the united states were to get into a conflict and they sent f-35s and somebody hacked in and just made all the pilots eject to neutralize the u.s response to i don't know taiwan or ukraine or wherever they sent those people yeah well i i think it's kinda nice that you know at least like the military military earthly military perspective that could be one uh concern um they actually did this on battlestar galactica the reimagined uh series is how the series starts is where you know the cylons have their code that they installed in most almost all of their their fighters and hardware and when this you know they attack they just turn everything off and just you know slaughter everybody so that's a real problem that's something 100 years ago you didn't have to think about but now that's not just military that's everything at the top right there are other things that never happened in the last two decades right now but now you're talking about military things like military and military and military in general? um you're talking about military sometimes you know military and military but i don't think that it's just a that's everything, you know, our entire lives are, I was talking with Matt about this the other day about how, you know, one of the first things you move when you, you're, you set up when you move is internet. It used to be the internet was just like this extra thing that sometimes you did at home, but you were out doing stuff. And now it's like, immediately I need to get electricity. I need to get gas and I need internet, you know, that's how integrated it's become into our lives.
52:25 And Satan is definitely going to use it as part of the great deception. And there are, he's already using it, um, to great effect. So it's become a utility and it's more than just a, a want now it's become, Oh, I need that in order to pay my bills or whatnot. So I think it's, this is fascinating because, um, bringing this right back around to the general theme of the channel is this actually, I, I, I was thinking about this whole topic and I was like, how is this relating to UFOs? Well, it does relate to UFOs. Remember, um, remember the old, not old, he actually is too old. He is a FBI, a former FBI agent, John D'Souza. He was, uh, commissioned by the FBI to look into all these X-Files, these, these strange files that he had and consequently became the owner of the strange X-Files that were presented on the first season of X-Files itself. Um, and so they were taken from, uh, his original, uh, his original, uh, his original, uh, his original original, uh, strange files, legitimate files in the FBI. And so he got, he came on, uh, the YouTube channel. Oh, what is the name of the YouTube channel? Redacted and talked to the guy about what's the plan, what he believes is the next plan for this UAP incident. Watch what happens next. The next step, it's, it's a little difficult to hear, but the next step, because they need to keep building up the fear of these UAPs. Next step is really for the UAPs to start, um, shooting down our commercial airliners and our military jets, uh, from the skies. Uh, and that I believe is going to be happening very, very soon.
54:16 So the fear, you know, at first we're hearing these Chinese balloons, we're hearing these stories about these things. And, and for decades, we've heard that these things are benevolent, that if anything, they want peace. If they're over, they're over, um, Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana, that they don't want us using nuclear weapons, et cetera, right? Anyone that follows these stories and knows the eyewitness accounts of the members of the military at Malmstrom Air Force Base, they were there and they were shutting off nuclear warheads that were not even connected to one another, right? With redundant systems. They were separately plugged in basically, right? It's not like pulling out a surge protector. They were separately turned offline while this UFO, was hovering above Malmstrom Air Force Base. And this is confirmed by members of the Air Force. Like this is not me saying this, this is the Air Force saying this. So we've heard for decades that these are benevolent, that there's not, and now we're going to start to hear, they're going to start to use this story with these manmade craft, whether by Raytheon, whatever, to start, start creating problems, you know, so that we think that these are some other worldly beings, but, you know, they're really us doing it. And they're going to start shooting down aircraft now. Interesting. I, so I don't know if that, that plane was taken down or what was happening. We often don't know what happens in the government. Maybe it was tracking one of these things. Who knows? Who knows? It's a story I thought was interesting because John D'Souza specifically said, you know, someone that has had experience looking into these things for a long time, he said, you know what, the next step is for something bad to happen.
56:00 Us to make these space weapons for things that are in space and we have to have a threat. Maybe they'll start shooting at our military planes, our commercial planes. And so I, I don't know, maybe that's fear mongering, but I thought it was an interesting connection to the F-35 thing that, uh, that you had, Eric. And so before we move on to the, the 911 call, do you have anything to add to that? Well, I mean, I'll say it's possible. I just, we got to avoid being in the trap of everything is, is aliens, you know, cause there is some, there are things going on politically and militarily in the world that are just humans, you know, involved. And so could it, it's one, this is one of those ambiguous ones. It could it have been a, yeah. Um, but I think if, if, well, play the, play the, uh, the 911 call first and maybe we can talk about that. That's, that's, that's exactly where I was going. Okay. Fascinating. Especially what he says at the end. Listen to this. One, what's the, uh, what's the, uh, what's the, uh, what's the, uh, what's the, what's the address of the emergency? Okay. Tell me exactly what happened. I guess we got a pilot at our house and he says he got ejected or he ejected from the plane. So we just see if we could get some ambulance, please. I'm sorry. What happened? Uh, we got a pilot in the house and I guess he landed in my backyard and we were trying to see if we could get a, um, ambulance to the house, please. Okay. So like, okay. Um, what is the phone number that you're calling from? Okay. Uh, we're getting help on the way. I, give me just a moment. Yeah, no problem. Okay. I'm in the house. I made it in the neighborhood. Okay. Are you with the patient now? Yes. Okay. How old is the patient? We have a military jet crash. I'm the pilot. We need to get a rescue rolling. I'm not sure where the airplane is. It would have crashed landed somewhere. I ejected. Okay. How far did he fall?
58:11 I was at 2000 feet. Okay. And what caused the fall? Uh, an aircraft failure. Okay. Is there any serious bleeding? I don't know. I can't see myself. No, he looks fine. He's just so distracted. What did the other person say? I feel okay. My back just hurts. Okay. Okay. I don't know for what reasons, but. Uh, not sure. But it will happen. That's okay. Okay. Has there been any cold? Uh, I have no reaction to the cold, so we'll go on roll. Okay. Has there been a report of an airplane crash? Uh, I have not seen any, um, come up yet. Okay. What part of the body was injured? Ma'am, I'm a pilot in a military aircraft and I ejected, um, so I just rode a parachute down to the ground. Can you please send an ambulance? Yes, sir. I've already told you. They're on their way. I'm just required to ask these questions while they're in route. Fascinating. Fascinating.
59:15 fascinating that was actually this is something we don't usually get to hear but this is actually uh the uh 9-1-1 call from the owner of that house that um where the pilot went and knocked on the door hey uh by the way my plane just crashed can you not call 9-1-1 for me my back kind of hurts that's fascinating wow but what's what's even more fascinating is is what he said what did he say eric you remember what he said uh i thought that's what you're gonna bring out which part the the part that he you know he said uh well what what what caused the accident uh airplane failure or something like that didn't he say well you have to remember he's on he knows he's on an unsecured line talking to a civilian so he's not going to give any classified information over that so you know he's going to give as little information as possible just to get what you know get picked up and then other people will take it from there so i initially you know noticed that too but in and of itself i think i think it's interesting that he was at 2 000 feet when he ejected from what limited skydiving experience i have um you know you you want to be have a parachute over your head and by the time you hit a thousand feet otherwise it's not good so either he was flying low already doing like a nap and they call it nap of the earth when you hear you know you see in the movies and the aircraft are flying really low to get under like radar and they call that nap of the earth flight and um either he was doing that and he unexpectedly ejected or he was having problems and he got down to 2 000 feet and and realized you know i need to eject now before i get too low and the parachute's not going to help me i don't know i'm not again there are other channels you can go uh cw le moyne is a really good one if you're interested in military aviation he's an air force and navy pilot so um and that's where i get a lot of my information from because he puts out some really good like you know fact-based speculation but yeah as far as ufo shooting it out of the sky i don't think we're there yet that would have been an entirely different scenario i've also seen in the chat somebody drew a parallel between this and the pentagon i i'm guessing 9 11 which or that was in pennsylvania the plane crashed in the field and then you have a thing that allegedly the plane that crashed into the pentagon which and it's like where's the wreckage of the where's the plane and we haven't seen it yet we're just getting started any that's a good point i mean i'm not saying one way or the other what happened we don't have any photos or video of an f-35 wreck i thought it was i was fascinated there wasn't any fire you think about the amount of fuel that was on that plane you think that there would be at least if it kept going if it kept going until it ran out of fuel i don't know i don't even know where they found it in relation to where the pilot was so he lost track of it i i haven't kept too close of a tab tabs on it as to how far it went after he ejected so i want to i want to give a shout out to rogu thank you for the for the super chat there's actually been a couple super chats it looks like i was uh while i was silent papa bear uh odin thank you for the super chat as well and there was another one at the very beginning but i can't scroll back that far if you did super chat um say hello in the chat again i'll i'll scream you out but very ass why would he call local 911 wouldn't he call his military superior um i would say probably he did but he also he got to keep in mind that like he knows he's flying over civilian areas and so he's probably concerned about again he said he didn't know where the plane was so what if that crashed into somebody's house or an apartment but that actually happened and like i forget where it was san diego or something like that an f-18 the pilots ejected and the plane went into an apartment building so um i think that's just concern yeah there's another one that went into our house i remember that yeah um and there wasn't an explosion for that one either i thought that was interesting but they can't i mean it depends on it depends on a lot if you come in at the right angle and you don't you know rupture the fuel tanks or the fuselage or you know i'm sure there's plenty of ways you can crash a plane that won't result in an explosion so i mean we've been conditioned by movies to like you know yeah the milk truck hits the embankment and it explodes because that's you know we've been conditioned by movies to like you know that's just what happens in movies but it's the reality is not always like that so and you know what's interesting about that this is a whole different rabbit trail but they actually um gasoline in liquid form doesn't explode it's the fumes on top that do and so if you
1:03:59 make it go over a huge area and it all evaporates at once it's gonna cause quite a rupture but um things don't just kaboom that's that's the whole point of them making gasoline so it was safe to drive a vehicle but you know we've been conditioned that we have tnt in our car and that it's going to explode and that's the whole reason that was fascinating to me too boy this is rabbit trail is going to go way way too far but remember that kid that was in um fast and the furious that died in the plant in the car walker yeah they didn't get him out of the car because they were concerned it was going to explode well an empty an empty tank or near empty tank is more dangerous than a full tank of fuel because you have all the fumes it's more likely to explode so i think you know like you said the truck on top of a car has a liquid like you said the liquid when you see gasoline on fire it's just the top surface of the liquid that's on fire actually i uh once was in a situation where there was a bucket of gasoline that had accidentally been lit on fire by somebody i'm not going to say who um but it was a plastic and so the plastic sides were like melting down but it was just that top layer as it was burning then it would go down to the next if it's cold enough outside that vapor pressure goes down you could have a lit cigarette on gasoline it's not going to light it so we don't know the situation that's the thing it's like all all we have right now is speculation and and this is kind of could it be uaps yes could it be just the f-35 has had a lot of problems with it like i said you know i've looked at this jet for a while and since it came out it just had issue after issue after issue maybe this is i think it's interesting that they stood down all jets in the military ah that was for two days yeah i don't know why i that that i think is the most interesting part of this because the article that i read didn't say all f-35s because if it was a problem maybe with just the f-35 it's like okay like we'll ground the fleet of f-35s but everybody else is still flying but what i said just said all jets so that to me says everybody f-18s f-16s unless i see unless somebody has any in the chat has seen something different but you know safety stand downs are typically something happens there's an incident then the whole command just grinds to a halt and you know at least when i did it everybody had to show up to like the base theater or something and everybody there's a talk or a brief and it's like okay this is what happened this is what to do what not to do and it happens for a variety of situations a lot of times it's for like somebody you know gotten a wreck drunk driving or something but like for things like you know operationally there are safety stand downs and there's a lot of things that can happen and to do that for all planes in the military if that's indeed what they did that um speculation surrounding that there's there's a few reasons that that could have happened and yeah i don't know why but it doesn't sound good so um a christian girl who loves yeshua says in the chat but they didn't halt commercial airlines and she she's asking that question do you know if they halted any commercial airlines i don't say the military doesn't have jurisdiction over commercial airlines unless they unless the faa like after 9 11 they grounded all air traffic um but this was a military jet so fascinating yeah it's it's a really interesting topic and yeah i'm not saying that it was a uap that they were chasing or anything like that i'm just saying this is something we're watching who knows what was happening here and it could have been china it could have been it could have been um he ran out of gas it could have been we got hmla pilots has that standard during peace time it's or and operational risk management safety stand down to ground maybe marine aviation after a mishap it's called a red stripe um yeah my first command was on a base it was it was an air base uh i i wasn't on the air side so i didn't get keep too much track of it but i've never i've never heard for whatever this is worth i've never heard of all jets in the in the military being stood down after one event maybe that's common and i'm just wasn't aware of it but um because you know things happen all the time and uh there's there's mishaps there's wrecks and stuff and it seems like you know somebody on the other side of the country might still be flying but i could be wrong so okay what uh what branch h oh he's 21 years military pilot here what branch and platform hmla it's gonna take it we've got quite a delay here so you're gonna wait for him to respond to oh yeah the odd spray that was a death mercy um marines right on nobody's perfect but you know won't hold that against you what
1:08:40 is there some kind of feud before between the the different uh uh types of military of course okay of course at least he didn't say air force oh cobras oh it was cool oh yeah i wanted to be a helo pilot but i couldn't get the fuzzy little circles they do the depth perception test and uh i couldn't i couldn't do that so i didn't even try out for that but they i always wanted to fly helos but i had a battlefield though so attack helicopters very cool hey we got a lot of people and let me just say before we get into the actual mexico alien thing um if you enjoy this conversation if you think that this is something that you would like to uh be on the forefronts of as we talk about it in the discord join us partner with us on patreon patreon.com slash strange normal patreon.com slash strange normal and you can become a part of the private community eric matthew everyone that joins and is part of that community can be on the show and we all give our uh tidbits uh and and what's what's happening what we're doing and what we're doing and what we're thinking and we got a lot of people a lot of people like 70 people that are currently in the discord and they pop in every now and then and we we share what we find throughout the week it's really interesting and uh we got everything in there that from the spiritual sense of things to meetups to to uh what's going on by the hour in the hour and uh you'll really enjoy it for the cost of maybe a sit-down restaurant once a week you can be a part of uh joining us and making sure that this message gets out because that's the main purpose of this so join us in the discord and let's get right back into the program this is a fascinating topic and what this eric this is something that i've been trying to figure out for weeks since this thing came out what what happened was ryan graves ryan graves who uh was a pilot uh in the in the military and he's seen all this stuff that's happened this uap stuff and he says you know it's it's a it's a danger because we get out there these things fly right past us we think we almost all hit him he started a new thing to make a video about it and he said you know it's it's a it's a danger because we get out make sure that pilots could could tell people about this stuff without uh losing their piloting license but a lot of people make them thinking that they're crazy and so he's going around talking about how important this stuff is and he mexico invites him down to talk about this uip thing and so at at their senate this isn't just some church function or some some small uh get together for alien uh houdini's this is this mexico has their congressional hearing and says hey we want to talk about this like the u.s did and then they invite ufologists that bring out what appears to be alien bodies so let's let's get into it i'm going to show you exactly what i'm talking about here and we're kind of trying to dig through this and i'll let you decide what you think about it i have my opinion but i'll save that for later here we go recognizing the need for action and answers i founded americans for safe aerospace we believe that's the right way to do it and we're going to talk about it in a little bit later i want to show you that uap represent an urgent priority for both aerospace safety and scientific inquiry our focus is on improving public education of uap breaking stigma and working towards better transparency and disclosure i am proud and honored that more than 10 000 people have joined in our mission at safe aerospace.org anyone can join i am confident that this is just the beginning he's confident that this is just the beginning but before we get into uh um exactly uh that i want to show you what he said a little bit later that was a 25 second clip and i'm telling you that so i remember what clip to go back to this is his um uh eric this is his his tweet that he stated after the hearing he was not happy with them bringing aliens out while he's talking it says after the u.s congressional ufp hearing i accepted an invitation to testify before mexico congress hoping to keep up the momentum of the government interest in pilots experience with experiences with uap unfortunately yesterday's demonstration was a step backward for this issue my testimony centered on sharing my experience and the uap reports i hear from commercial and military air crew through asa witnesses program i will continue to raise awareness about uap as an urgent matter of aerospace safety national security and science but i am deeply disappointed with this unsubstantiated stunt he wasn't too happy with this um i'm gonna i'm gonna present some of the evidence that people think that this is absolutely aliens and then we're going to present other evidence too what do you think about this whole thing that's happening so far i don't know i'm i'm completely unbiased
1:13:21 but i'm going to present both sides of it well i don't blame them for being a little uh upset just because if you know that's that's happened before where people will lure uh people who to uh to an event or something like that and then it's you know they think it's one thing but it's really it's a little bit of a it's a little bit of a the phoenix lights where they they came out and the guy was wearing the alien suit and it's like oh we found the culprit like making light of it it's like and i have to wonder what these people think do they really believe that people are buying that these are real aliens or is this like you know i don't know i think i think i can't get inside people's heads but and some people aren't it's it's fascinating because i went through tvis went through each state listening to each broadcast talking about these aliens and some people are like yeah i think they spent too much money on the caskets uh and other people are like well uh and this guy this guy i'm about to play next he seems all into it watch this all right stay with me here a pair of alleged alien corpses are being looked at more closely and researchers are making shocking discoveries doctors in mexico analyze the remains of two apparent non-human beings with a ct scan they were presenting to the the american mexican congress last week by a ufo enthusiast who claims radiocarbon tests date the bodies back 1800 years now the scan suggests the creatures have complete skeletons untouched by humans it's great news for believers of extraterrestrials it's the queen of all evidence if the dnr is showing us that they are not human beings and that there's nothing that looks like this in the world we should take it as such in the three studies we tried to see the structure of the skeleton of these bodies and we were able to determine that it does indeed belong to a single skeleton that has not been joined to other pieces researchers say one of them appears to have possible eggs in his abdomen what stood out to me about that story is that they check the dna of these creatures and there's some dna there they don't recognize as being from this world chris point that we are not alone the time here we switched over to the x files pretty quickly didn't we just like that okay so so apparently um carbon dating's legit since it dated these aliens back to almost 2 000 years ago wait wait wait before we get into that i why i set that one up i mean let me thank you thank you papa bear for sarah thank you leaf uh for the super chat thank you uh um meredith for sarah who is sarah what's going on here everyone's giving money for what's going on now i'm i'm curious i'm not sure what's happening here i can watch the chat why is everyone saying and and giving super chats for sarah well thank you um she's got friends she says well thank you sarah you need to come back more often we need to have you on the show next week we'll see you next week i don't know why but um you've got your your own uh super chat fan base here what do you think about this whole clip what was that the piltdown man or something that was like supposedly the missing link or some kind of archaeological find that was related to evolution it turned out to be a fraud like i think that was probably better done than this i don't know just watching him handle that and there's like dust falling off of it and it's like not of it was supposed to be charred like how does a normal human body you know behave when it's i don't know it's it just looks cheap like from a cheesy somebody said it was a b-movie prop like that's what it looks like to me that's my opinion um i don't know how i a dead 2000 year old body would react i mean i i don't know but um i personally it's i find it hard to believe and but i i'm i'm gonna look into it as deep as possible because what i think is going on here is satan doesn't care he doesn't care if it's real or or fake if he can use it to further and and impress people's minds with the idea that there is potentially uh aliens from a far distant galaxy and they've crash landed on earth he'll use someone that's trying to uh game the system i mean that's how he works so if he's going to uh use paper mache and he can convince these doctors that oh yeah it's all from the same oh yeah it's 18 carbon dates that is 1800 years ago um why doesn't anybody bring this up and say
1:18:16 well wait a second here is it um i don't know well we also have so we also have to remember that the narrative is especially through mainstream is being curated and it's being done deliberately so what did we see at first there was like a slow ramp up to like okay the tic-tac videos released and now we're starting to slowly have congressional hearings and now but then it's like there was like a pullback where it's like okay we're not going to release all this information we gotta we gotta clamp down on this and maybe this is just another maybe i don't know but maybe this is just another way for them to like okay there's too much attention right now or things are there's too much attention too fast so we have to kind of cool it down by making fun of it or making some you know people think oh okay this is just like some silly so that they associate this thing that's down where is it peru or mexico or wherever is they associate that with all the other stuff that has been put out that might be legitimate i don't know there's there's lots of reasons to that this could just be um a hoax or it could be deliberately put out there um and the people doing it know that it's going to delegitimize uh the uap discussion but we'll have to wait and see absolutely all right here we go uh this is the next clip um just another news clip so we can get a full rounded a view of this some of this duplicate information here we go okay question for you is there life beyond our medical experts in mexico they're conducting new tests on a pair of remains that some researchers say do belong to extraterrestrials i mean it does look like et right the bodies generated strong mixed reactions after being shown to the mexican congress last week they were shown in these cases you see fox's ted lindner takes a closer look at the latest findings this lab in mexico is the site of a series of out of this world tests as doctors carefully analyze the remains of alleged non-human beings the small thin gray bodies with three fingers on each hand resemble what many people consider a stereotypical alien they were presented to the mexican congress last week by a journalist and ufo enthusiast who said the remains were discovered in peru back in 2017.
1:20:32 he also claims a past radiocarbon test shows the bodies are up to 1800 years old it's the queen of all evidence if the dna is showing us that they are not human beings and that there's nothing that looks like this in the world we should take it as such peruvian officials previously said the objects were nothing more than man-made dolls covered with paper and glue but now new x-ray scans are revealing closer details about what's actually inside in the three studies we tried to see the structure of the skeleton of these bodies and we were able to determine that it does indeed belong to a single skeleton that has not been joined to have their pieces the bodies don't have teeth but researchers say one of them appears to have what could be eggs in its abdomen their existence has triggered controversy across the scientific community with many people still not convinced they're real and calling for more tests meanwhile doctors say these recent scans show there is no evidence of any assembly or manipulation of the skull Ted Lindner Fox News they both said the same thing he's just holding it up like that for something that's like thousands of years old I mean they're just so careful you know I don't know send it to NASA that's what I'm gonna send it to NASA NASA will figure it out it'll tell you exactly what's happening here yeah I don't have any words like what else have we got because this is just ridiculous I know so um I think one one commentator said something very interesting and I want to I want to uh address something uh we got a super chat we're going to do a little bit of a super chat from Jonathan thank you so much for your super chat um he said uh you recently aired an episode with Chris Hudson which I thought was great conversation have you approached any other pastors nobody seems to be speaking of this topic from the pulpit shake my head and so he's right and I and uh and we actually have we have several pastors that um we have interviewed on this channel uh some of them have been uh talked about specifically on this topic and some of them because uh they're one was really well known and uh he was a um televangelist with several um TV shows and he was on the channel in the very beginning and he he uh his name is Doug bachelor and we asked him about UFOs in the Bible and stuff like that and I um I uh full disclosure I used to work for him so it it uh it worked out pretty well uh we also did a Bible answers live where I called that there's also been um several other pastors that we actually had on the show present their information and they have done full sermons on it we archive all those on our Discord we have a whole channel dedicated to just um sermons about uh ufology and uh what's actually going on uh on on the Discord channel and I mean it's it's phenomenal but you're right it's not talked about enough I think it needs to be talked about more and more and more uh because I think this is becoming a bigger and bigger issue um I believe the spiritualism is going to become the issue uh as time moves on and that's what we're doing a channel to talk about it because I couldn't find one that would talk about this stuff and so there was a need for it and that's why we're trying to push this message out and it just irritates me that there's almost 10 000 subscribers but there's uh there needs to be a hundred thousand we need to we need to have a movement of people that actually go out and spread this information and so this is my fetal feeble effort not fetal effort feeble effort to uh to do this uh rant over yeah well if there's and if there's any pastors who happen to be watching this uh either live or afterwards or you know people who know pastors if we truly believe that God's word is you know what it says is Satan is the enemy right and we are in it we're actually we're going through Ephesians right now um studying Ephesians recently about the spiritual warfare you know we wrestle not against flesh but aquà en los muchos paÃses crÃticos y principales y principales there's you know Paul likens it to to actual warfare and from a military perspective the things that are the most interesting or the that should pique our attention is when the enemy changes and does something different so if we believe that this is Satan's system that he is in control of the government which he is in control of the news media and the people that run this world for now um why all of a sudden this change within the last five years that should be interesting to everybody you know
1:25:15 you're right brad it seems like a general it's either reluctance or complacency as i think spiritual warfare gets relegated into this you know place where it's like you just abstract and vague and you know figurative and something that happens in you know in the distance and we don't really put our finger on it but there's stuff happening connected to it right now and this is one of those things so you know we it needs like you said i agree with you 100 that's why i'm here but it needs to be talked about and it's not just it's not just some uh abstract form of media that's talking about this i mean these last two clips were from uh mainstream media i mean these are fox news clips the next one is a cbs clip um and they talk about the reasons why they think they're they're uh they're disagreeing with it and uh i think rightly so uh this is what they're saying check this out i think a lot of us just want to believe aliens are out there we've seen so many science fiction movies and you just kind of believe it's true i mean if the universe is just such a big place it's hard to believe there's not yes it is leslie life somewhere else out there i don't know i just don't want to think about it because it scares me all right uh here's some of the top stories we're following this morning so so they say it's from hollywood well yeah we just want to believe and i don't want to believe it scares me uh well there's just so much out there and the the these you catch that sound bite eric that's the same one we hear over and over again oh the universe is still so vast it must be that the aliens are coming down down here as if that correlates well it's a similar to what joe rogan said about you know maybe they made us it's like anything that they anything that you can do to accept the idea of what's happening but not associated with having they're having to be a creator so that's what a lot when you say that then they kind of until you dig deeper then it's like okay well then where did they come from and where you know what i mean it's it's at a certain point you just can't get around or the creator dilemma but anything to avoid it people will do because and again like we was mentioned earlier uh in the show for a lot of people this is their first time hearing this and so this is why i think that's you know scripture talks about how men's hearts will fail them out of fear i mean a lot of that might be to how spectacular things are that are going to happen right before jesus christ returns but a lot of that might also have to do with the fact that it's going to be a complete surprise to people who aren't paying attention even for god's you know worshipers it's gonna we're gonna it's we're not gonna expect when it's coming we're expecting that it's coming but it's gonna happen suddenly even for us but for somebody who's not paying attention to this at all to look up and see whatever satan manifests in the sky for the first time that's your first exposure to it you never want to be in that position where the first time you're seeing something is when it's sprung on you right and that's why we follow this and make sure that um we're seeing from the bible what's actually going on i mean even jesus said there's things i want to tell you but you can't bear them now well i tell you these things he says so that when you do see them you will believe and so we're telling you right now that there are things that are spiritual that satan can move things around he can build things i call these things that they're going to actually see these physical objects maybe these little gray aliens as they're going to see these little gray aliens as they're these perhaps uh things are called they call them meat puppets little meat puppets that these things are being i mean if he can move around a picture and put it hang on the other side of the wall why can't he uh make these little meat things and make it look like there's actually a human because he can't create life but he can make a puppet out of something so i digress well luke so luke 20 uh to go right for the to the source luke 21 25 and there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars and upon the earth distress of nations with perplexity the sea and the waves roaring men's hearts failing them for fear and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth for the powers of heaven shall be shaken and then shall they see the son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory and when these things begin to come to pass then look up lift up your heads for your redemption draweth nigh so the more stuff that comes out at least for me it's like it's it's going to get exciting for those who want jesus christ to come so that's why you know if you're not in that you don't have a relationship with him yet start today you know just go to him directly in prayer tell him you want to get to know him look in his word and he will make sure that he directs you to something that's going to speak to you and he will take care of you
1:30:04 that's something he's promised so absolutely and i haven't been looking at the chat sadly i i hope i answered your question jonathan thank you for the super chat um and i've been trying to read to see if you had any follow-up questions to that but if you do let me know um anybody and that goes for anybody um let's go and see what what the information about this uh that debunks it i think there's some interesting uh clips that talk about debunking this uh this uh strange thing that mexico brought out and then we're gonna get to the weirder side after that so stay tuned watch this so what do we see same stuff a hodgepodge of human and animal bones here's a mummy named josephine a real beauty instead of humorized she sports femurs or thigh bones her legs are even more baffling one of the thigh bones is actually a femur only facing the wrong way around while the other one is a tibia and they are completely mismatched with the hip there at all the poor humanoid wouldn't have made a single step some of the bones are simply chopped off note this asymmetry here the fingers are a total mess too the first pseudo phalanges are facing in different directions on her left and right hands with the white part facing up or down well they just forgot to turn them the right way stuff happens and look at this alien head french paleontologist julian benoit using skulls of some small mammals for their heads such as a llama or alpaca comparison shows that the reptiloids cranial cavity fits perfectly the cranial cavity of a llama the location of the olfactory bulbs the inner ear the brain hemispheres and the cerebellum precisely matches those in a llama skull the whole facial part of the skull was broken off leaving only the brain case the skull was then rotated so that it could be easily torn apart and the skull was then put in a much more so its back part faces forward.
1:32:10 The reptiloid's face is actually the back of the poor llama's head. Paleontologist Rodolfo Salas Gismondi is of the same opinion. I'm not sure where that background music came from, but that was an interesting choice. But I found that clip fascinating. Yeah, and also one of the news clips I saw randomly said, and it's not a cut of any other material, and all the bones are exactly the same. I, okay, maybe, maybe not. I don't think so. I think this is probably a better clue on what's really going on here. But again, Satan can use any type of meat puppet he wants. Those things coming to life would scare me. Yeah, I don't know why he would do that when he could just possess humans, which we know happens.
1:33:07 Yeah, it's just weird and laughable and not even, you know what, there's probably stuff going on right now that we're being deceived. We're being distracted from talking about this. Maybe there's stuff that's going on in your neck of the woods right now that, you know, people are focused on this. And we're missing something because we're distracted by this. I don't know. Maybe. But what I thought was fascinating about this is that even though it might be a complete hoax, and they're going to find out that later, I think we are going to find out, Peru thinks it's theirs and wants it back and has filed a legal case with Mexico to take it back. Peru? Okay, watch this. From those alleged alien corpses that were unveiled in Mexico, officials in Peru have now launched a criminal investigation. The alleged corpses came from Peru. Officials there want to know how they were taken out of the country.
1:33:59 The Mexican journalist who presented them says they were found back in 2017, but some scientists say it's just all an elaborate stunt. Well, in California, a small plane. Did so. I think so. It's an elaborate stunt. I'm more interested in the small plane that crashed in California. Do we have anything on that? Of course. I think we've spent enough time on this. I know. I think we're done with the alien stuff. That alien stuff. But I think it's just one of those things that you have to cover because it's been all over the news. And who knows what's going on with that. And it could absolutely be just a distraction, like you said. But it definitely is. Somebody said in the chat, it's just an old voodoo doll for Santeria. I don't know. Isn't Peru where they had? Those alleged alien attacks on villagers recently?
1:34:48 Yeah. Is that Peru? Or is that somewhere else? That was Peru? I believe it was. Let me look that up real quick. Aliens. Yep. Locals at Alto Nani, 3,000 people in northern Amazon Basin, reported armored and floating seven-foot aliens wearing dark-colored hoods. Yeah, this was not, I think, whatever they saw. This was not it. Yeah. I think we're going to see something someday. I don't think we're seeing it yet. I don't think we're even permitted to, or Satan's been permitted to do this type of crazy stuff. But he can impress humans to do some pretty bizarre stuff and to create this stuff just to get a rise out of the people. Or it's a political stunt. So that's my official stance on it. Absolutely stuff is going to happen.
1:35:50 But it's not going to happen. It's going to be even crazier than this. So we're going to see some crazy stuff, Eric. Do you have any final thoughts? No, let's move on. Well, I mean, that's all I got tonight. That's all you got tonight? That's all I got tonight. Yeah. You built it up. I thought we were going to, okay. That was the title of the show was talking about this crazy alien thing. And Peru wants it back. But it's an interesting concept. So you want to pray us out? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just want to say it's good to have, or was he the HMLC pilot? Anybody who has any particular HMLA pilot in the chat, just because I don't, you know, I have experience in some things, but there are people who have more experience in other things.
1:36:42 So it's good to get their input and join the discord. We'd love to have you. That's where you already plugged it, but that's a lot of people have all these different perspectives and we get nothing. Knowledge from everywhere is stuff that I would never have seen if I wasn't in the discord. So, and it's just about learning and, you know, piecing this together together. So, and I stand corrected to evidently military pilots can eject at runway height because that, you know, the seats are rocket assisted. So I was incorrect about that. What I thought the reason he could have been, could have ejected. So yeah, we perspectives like this to keep us on the right track. And with accurate information are important. So thank you, HMLA pilot. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And we, we especially are interested in anybody that's military that can shed light on this because especially military has more insight into what's going on than the sector that isn't military, whatever that's called private sector, public sector, whatever that's, that's called.
1:37:46 Yeah. Especially pilots. If you're a military pilot, because those seem to be the guys having all the fun, shall we say, right now is the pilots. Yeah. Air Force hasn't said, I mean, a thing about it other than a couple of pilots, but really a lot of the Navy has said a lot about it. I mean, they've had the ships off the coast talking about their stuff, but it's just a couple of pilots that have come out and a lot of, a lot of Navy, I think. Anyway, I think that there's probably some more that can step out of the woods and kind of provide some information. What I'd really like to get on the program, is some of these higher up Pentagon officials that believe that this thing is a demonic deception. That would be amazing. If somebody knows who those people are or how I can get ahold of them, maybe has their dot mill address.
1:38:38 I'd love to get ahold of them because I mean, if people are coming out right now and they're saying, yeah, you know, this is absolutely aliens and yeah, a former, I'm a former Pentagon official and I need to get this out. Where's the other side of this? Why can't we get, come out and say, no, this is absolutely aliens. Yeah. I'm a former Pentagon official and I need to get this out. Where's the other side of this? Why can't we come out and say, no, we don't want to touch this. This is a dangerous thing. And here's the reasons why I think that would be, that would make this channel explode because it would actually offer something that the public hasn't seen before. If you know who those people are, please join our discord or shoot me a message. I would love to hear more about it. Either one of us, Eric or I we would, we would love to hear more. You have any last thoughts, Eric? Nope. All right. I'm going to pray out unless you want to. Okay. No, you can go ahead.
1:39:28 Father God, thank you so much for giving us time to come and think about these things from a biblical perspective. We know that time is short and that these, these freedoms that are offered are not always going to be available. So we thank you for the ability to ponder these things and say things even about our government that might not always be allowed. We look forward to the day where we are with you in, in the kingdom and we ask that we can bring a lot of people with us through this, this, this ministry. We look forward to the day we are, we are with you and are in the closing times. We are on earth. Protect us, guide us and direct us so that we can come home safely. In Jesus name. Amen. All right, Eric, stick around. I'm going to close us off real quick. Friends, if you haven't already, join us and find us on, on Patreon because this is, this is a big topic. We're trying to get the message out.
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