0:00 They believe that there's going to come a time where the UFOs are going to pick them up and take them off planet. They believe that it will come just as the destruction of the planet happened and people will be left behind. Now doesn't that sound similar to the rapture? Welcome back to another episode of Strange Normal. My name is Brad Burnham and we look into the strange events that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of the things that are happening in your strange world and we've got an amazing episode lined up tonight. But before we get into it, please subscribe and hit that little bell so you can be notified when we release another video.
1:00 We do these regularly and you want to be notified when things like this appear on our channel because this one, especially this one, is really interesting tonight. Also, if you find this information valuable, please check out the description to see the links on how to support us. Now without further ado, let's get right into it. Lea Renee has had some incredible life experiences and the knowledge she's able to bring to the table is second to none. She started out in meditation and progressed to the New Age movement which brought her a slew of spiritual attacks. Fortunately she came out the other side with Christ. So without further ado, let's get right into her story. Thank you for coming on tonight, Lea. Tell me a little bit about yourself. Well, firstly, thank you very much for having me on your show. It's such a blessing.
1:46 So I'm married, I live in Melbourne, Australia. I grew up in a non-Christian family and I was an alien experiencer, I fell into New Age. Now I'm a Christian counsellor and I've come out of all the New Age, the spiritual warfare, I went through quite a battle. And I'm on the other side. So I'm a Christian counsellor and I've come out of all the New Age, the spiritual warfare, I went through quite a battle and I'm on the other side. Well, that's fascinating, I understand. But when it runs really early, and not emotional, at least in the beginning of life, you'll start to feel frustrated, more Bombay issues but the small things stay with you. Who you meet is very científic, and it's part of your path at that moment you've had no idea what's going on.
2:39 A lot of Batman is恐怖, because we can be like, oh it could be Bumblebee, you know. AC voilà. All right. are an experiencer, number one, and you've come out of that movement and realized and came to Christ. Is that correct? That's correct. Wow. So, so tell me, tell me more about how that happened. So going back about 10 years or more, I began to meditate. So I had a lot of free time on my hands. My kids were getting older, they were doing hobbies and different things. So I decided to do something for myself. So I looked at doing meditation, because I thought that'd be good for me, keep me calm and just clear my head. And I started meditating. And along the way, it led to all different types of modalities. And it opened me up and I became extremely psychic. As I went deeper into that journey, I began to see UFOs. I saw my first UFO when I was 12. Hold on just for a second. What is a modality? Is that what you said? Yeah, different practices, different modalities. So you could have, for example, Reiki, another modality would be yoga, another modality could be Wow.
4:11 Yeah. So I, as the journey went on, I opened myself up to so many more spiritual type practices, which in turn made things worse. So using all these different modalities, I've never even heard that word before. Fascinating. It probably shows how much I haven't looked into this because it's, it's, it's really me learning about this for the first time. And I'm understanding, what's going on that causes things, these kinds of things to happen. I think you're going to provide a lot of information to that tonight, which I'm really fascinated about. So, so please continue. I do find that people who are having UFO experiences and alien abduction or alien experiences, they're also doing lots of other occult style practices. So I became, I became involved in meditation. And it took me into this whole deception. I began to run groups, I had six groups worldwide. And we were promoting seminars and guest speakers. And looking back, we were pushing that narrative. So we were promoting that aliens were here, because I was having those type of experiences.
5:41 And my husband was had a few experiences, too. He in fact, saw an alien gray on his work site. He went to work one day, he was an arborist. And he went to a property to chop down all these trees. And at the end of, sorry, through the whole day, he felt like he was being watched. Now, at the end of the day, when he was packing up his work vehicle, he saw in the trees, in the bushes, an alien gray that was about three to four foot tall. And it, it was staring at him and his whole body began to vibrate. Now, he had, sorry, I've heard No, I've heard of this before. And I want to explain what an alien gray is to those who don't understand, because we have a variety of audience here. The gray, if I understand this correct, is a specific look to this figure that is, is portrayed as alien, I'm using my finger quotes. But this, this, this humanoid, which I mean, humanoid by its bipedal creature is gangly with big eyes. And you've seen it before as the classic Hollywood alien look, and they call it a gray. And sometimes they make it green. Is that right? But it's usually a gray skin color. Is that correct? Yeah, that's correct. And they have the big bulbous head. And they have that little spindly body, as you said. So that's what he saw. And it completely turned his world upside down. And we've been on this journey together. And we've both come out the other end, knowing that these are demons, these are demonic entities.
7:38 And the only way to rid them, you know, if they're interfering in your life is through the the authority of Jesus Christ. And so through this, we became Christians. And now we're helping people come through their experiences, and to see the truth. So it's been a phenomenal journey. It's been what can I say, eye opening. And very interesting. So how did you? I mean, that's, that's the 30,000 foot level, right? You, you were experiencing this stuff, because you got involved with with meditation, and then all this stuff started happening. And then somehow you got realized that this stuff can be stopped by calling on the name of Jesus. And that's really the only way that is able to stop this stuff. How did you? How did you come across this? Did you find research? Or did you find a way to stop it? Did you find someone that told you told you about it? Or what happened? Well, for me, I started to have, if I could go back and talk about the experiences I had. Yeah, please. I got to a state of such desperation, and spiritual warfare, which I'll tell you about, that I simply had to cry out to Jesus, because I really needed this whole, thing to stop and I'll tell you a little bit about those experiences and how it worked up to calling out to Jesus so during the years I would wake up with well actually I'll start with the meditations I started to have visualizations of these beings and I didn't know what they were at first and one of them had a cape with a high collar and he had an elongated head and his skin was sort of a greeny clay color and he would appear in my dreams and he would appear in a hypnotherapy session which I had. Wow. Which was amazing.
10:09 It was about the experience of that craft I saw when I was 12 because it was a missing time episode so anyway I began to investigate what what what is this being I had heard of the term aliens before so it segmented in my mind that this was an alien and he was having some kind of contact experience with me. As the years went by I saw lots of scratches I would wake up with scratches and bruises and droplets of blood on the pillow or on the sheets. At one time I had a missing pregnancy which was confirmed by the doctor that I was pregnant. When I went for the sonogram it revealed an empty sack and I was at that stage 14 weeks pregnant. Oh wow. This um I didn't want to research too much into that because it was it was too fearful for me it was it was um it was something I just couldn't look into at the time but uh what happened there could have been a natural um reason for that however because I was having all the other experiences I was having all the other experiences I was having all the other experiences I was having all the other experiences I was having all the other experiences in my mind I thought this was something to do with these aliens and they had taken my baby so there's some there's a lot of deception and we have to sort what's fact from fiction and this is the hard thing so um I knew it was in my mind I thought it was something sinister um I would often be awakened by a female being that just looked human but a lot skinnier and this um being had long hair and uh sometimes she would just wake me up in the early hours of the morning and say um go outside so what happened when I'd wake up it's like I'd feel a tap and I'd wake up I'd see this figure for a second but then it would disappear um and that happened a few times one time it grabbed my ankles and was uh trying to pull me at the bottom of the bed I was kicking and screaming and I told my husband well I was screaming so my husband woke up and said what's happening I said I just saw a person I just saw a person try and grab me out of my bed so a lot of these um experiences for me were traumatic and I do want to mention that I had a very traumatic childhood and with working with clients myself as a counsellor before I came to Christ I was actually uh working with people who had had other experiences as well as as a counsellor for these people and I ran support groups in my home and I started to notice a lot of the people having these experiences would have uh some kind of a traumatic upbringing um and they're their life was or their family life was quite destructive and um not not very pleasant let's say so it's it's just an interesting time dynamic to look at um there was one time when I was meditating and this is really um what I've come to know as what people might call a devil's prophecy I didn't know anything like that at the time I fell into this thinking meditation was good for me however during this meditation I had that being who who um said my father was going to die oh the meditation was 2007 and it gave me the year of my death and I was thinking I'm going to die I'm going to die 2008 and it gave me JJ and I didn't think well what's this JJ but looking at the months you've got June and July um I I put it to the back of my mind because I I didn't know what to do with
15:02 that information but as it turned out um the next year my father did die in June and um he he died at the top of Australia I'm at the bottom they went on a holiday and when they were traveling he passed away and so he died in June but his body wasn't flown back till July and the funeral was July oh my goodness so when I think about that now I think God doesn't work like that God will not say that so um but they were trying to get you to believe that they were a legitimate uh entity that could predict the future even get into uh maybe even get you into um talking to them about what could possibly be in the future I've I've seen people go to exactly iKicks and stuff like this to try to just try to find their future out and that and that's kind of how we get in so much trouble because if we let the devil predict our future we could get in all kinds of trouble just like Saul in the Bible right right and there's a lot of um you know there's there's a lot of people in occult practices there's psychics mediums and people doing tarot and all this kind of thing and we know that they're speaking to familiar spirits now um what happened with my dad that was one of the key things that got me to think and ponder deep more deeply about these experiences and think you know it seems rather odd that they'd tell me that they're not going to tell me that they're not going to tell me about a death and it came true so it was what it was like a a crack started to appear and I started to question things um but it takes time to wake up to these experiences and as I said in the beginning I wasn't brought up in a Christian family but you can see how important to have a biblical truth and a biblical understanding is to stop all these deceptions so getting back um with the experiences I had um we um we moved to a house and I was holding these experience support meetings in my home and counseling these people and we had we had the most spiritual warfare we ever had we would have um pictures um that you hang on the wall were crooked every day I'd have to straighten them we had um the sounds of of craft above the roof you'd hear this like a vibration um we had strange lights in the sky we'd have our lights that were on in the house would flicker on and on and off so there was this um paranormal um stuff happening we had uh black helicopters surround us all the time um one time I went out and this helicopter was just filming um we had white vans follow us taking pictures of us so it became a real spiritual warfare battle and almost like being stalked yeah um strange phone calls uh threatening phone calls and the number was one two three four five six seven eight nine oh wow it was just totally weird and people would send me messages and we're going back years when we had mobile phones but they weren't the uh smartphones that we had now and they would send this little alien head picture with the message and I think well that's weird because they don't know I'm going through these experiences and they don't know I'm going through these experiences and they don't know I'm going through these experiences and they don't know I'm going through these experiences why are they sending me this little thing so that happened on about 10 occasions and when I asked them why did you send a little emoji like that they said no I didn't send that and I thought wow that's crazy oh so there was interference with computers and technology and and phones and all sorts of things um and we also got involved in the Bigfoot um you know experience oh wow fascinating so so Bigfoot is a is attached to
19:52 now for the for the record I've read your I've read three quarters of um of your testimony you sent me quite a book to read and it's really fascinating but I didn't get through the whole thing but about three quarters of it and I really thought it was fascinating that the the whole Bigfoot thing is tied into this supernatural stuff that's happening I'm really curious about this because this is not a subject that I'm going to be talking about but I'm going to be talking about this subject we've covered on this channel yet uh but it certainly is a topic that is worthy of discussion so yeah please go on well a lot of people who uh believe they're aliens from out of space also believe that the Bigfoot are aliens or part of that alien race just another type of being um so um in fact all of it is demonic now whether it appears to look like it's a like a beautiful Pleiadian star person or whether it appears like the the greys or an a mantid being or a Bigfoot um they're all one in the same they're all demonic entities that have the ability to shapeshift to appear to however they see fit to deceive you so what's interesting when I was a teenager I was reading books about Bigfoot and aliens now it's um if people examine um to anyone that might be listening that is having the alien or Bigfoot phenomena when people examine um what they've done or what they've opened themselves up to they might have said oh I'd love to um see a Bigfoot or I'd love to see an alien and people say it's all the time but you've got to be careful what you ask for because they're opening up that spiritual door and the next thing you know they're actually seeing them they're actually having these encounters wow so um this does happen so I had um three experiences with that Bigfoot um one that he had was down this near a cave and um we call the miawis here and so it came thrashing through the the uh bush and snapping uh branches and you could hear the heavy footprints and I was just sitting there and I mean most people would have just got up and ran but I just I just sat there calmly and and just said he's not going to touch me he's not going to touch me and in the end I got around to you and I was hit my head Mode.
22:43 touch me and um he came as close as probably five meters to me and he was just sort of charging to me and then he turned and i heard telepathically in my head i'm just gonna let you see me for a second and then he turned and went up the the hill and my husband heard everything but he didn't see it because he was actually up a little higher at the back um it's hard to describe but but he he heard it and i was it was crazy it was crazy my mind is blown what in the world that close and so does it i know these things are demonic but i i have to ask you does it look like the pictures um yes it does and when when i saw that in my mind my mind said that's a man in a gorilla suit and then i thought no that's that's this you know that that's how the mind sort of summed it up quickly because it just looked like a man in a gorilla suit and and we were down in this place which is oh like no one was there it was it's in the it's in the middle of nowhere yeah and there was no other people around and so i realized quickly no it's not a man in a gorilla suit that is a yaoi wow and it was at that time that we were you know into all of that so and um so how would you how would you uh i'm i'm putting the pieces together and since these things um are the same substance they they are demonic they are from the same um deception as as um as these ufos and aliens yeah um do you summon them the same way through uh like this uh this meditation or ce5 how would you come across this and i'm not doing this to ask to show people how to but i'm curious about putting the pieces together yeah so going back then when we were involved in that i we didn't know much about it because our we had a bit to do with the australian indigenous people and they don't talk about it because it invokes them um and they believe them to be bad however in america um everyone loves bigfoot and they sort of like chase bigfoot and they sort of like chase bigfoot and hunt bigfoot and we got involved with um a few groups on facebook and when i started to have these experiences i just think it opened me up and and they were saying these uh beings are uh friendly and they're here to help humanity i was actually in a book called um i'll go back a bit so we went to uh washington's state twice and we spoke at conferences because we'd seen them and they're sort of involved with american indians and and they they do things to conjure them up like they have um drumming ceremonies and they sing um certain songs which is sort of like a sasquatch type song and i i wouldn't recommend listening to it um but uh they do all of this and and so we kind of got dragged into that a little bit and and there's a guy called kiwani lapseritis who writes a book and says that they're they're here to help humanity and everything and they wrote this book called um sasquatch message to humanity i think it's book three and there were 12 authors and i was part of that book however when god brought me out he convicted me and asked me to remove my my story from that book and the author wouldn't but i said okay that's fine can you just change my name because i i didn't want anything more to do with you have to rid yourself completely of everything um so looking at how these communities they gather
27:40 they do smoking ceremonies they do drumming circles and they literally conjure up the uh sasquatch if you don't mind me asking what kind of drugs are involved with this because you said it was smoking is it just smoking as in smoke signals or is it actually no it's um american indians do what they call a smoking ceremony so they get um kind of like uh what do you call it um smudge sticks and then they do a smoking ceremony and they do a smoking ceremony and they do a smoking ceremony and they smoke in a tp and it's just all this smoke and they they stay in there and it becomes like a sweat lodge okay and so it's like hot boxing of of a bunch of smokes that you inhale it uh yeah and and it's kind of like somehow i never did that because it didn't seem right to me um there's a lot of things i didn't do because it's almost like something was stopping me it was almost like no i'm not gonna do that um so i can't really give you specific detail because i didn't actually yeah do it firsthand well it's interesting to me because a lot of times what i've discovered is is drugs are involved because they inhibit the frontal lobe which is our decision part of our brain and if if we damage that or not damage it even inhibit it even with just alcohol it it slows down our ability to say no to these uh these these entities and it can be damaging because then the entity can enter you he can possess you he could do stuff to you that's that's beyond your ability to say no and that's the dangerous part so i it it fascinates me that that oftentimes drugs are related to this this thing and it just gives me more proof that it's it's demonic yeah , a lot of um people do DMT to have that out-of-body experience and meet with these entities it's so dangerous it's just incredibly dangerous um yeah but um for people in those communities um that are working with the sasquatch you know they get gifts they get rocks and twigs and and for them it's such a big deal because it's like well i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that wow you know it's tangible evidence um but i've heard some really scary stories about these entities and see with the um they are kind of uh it's not like they're flesh and blood like us but they can slip in and out of these uh of the veil the dimensions and when they come through here they are in a physical place and they're in a physical place and they're in a physical place and they're in a physical uh they manifest physically um how do you account for the scratches the bruises um those type of things and you know i mean that's that's some physicality to it i'm not saying it's total flesh blood physicality but um yeah that's interesting yeah i never thought about that how do you account for that because if you have had things that have happened to you that have happened yeah you just don't know i don't think we'll fully understand it until we get to heaven but um i do agree with that yeah it's it's demonic it's deceptive and it's it's it's an it's an amazing thing that's going to happen i think it's going to happen right up until the end and at the time i thought it was fascinating but now it's just it's just to me it's just a deception and there's no nothing fascinating about it and this whole community that uh are worshiping the big foot yeah and they're they're leaving at food and they're leaving um you know gifts and and something's taking it and it's it's it's a deception they're getting sucked into and it's a little bit like and it's probably a bad analogy but it's a it's a good one to get my point across when a pedophile grooms a child they're always giving it lollies or grooming over time to really create um the indication that that person's a friend yeah to build the trust and these are no different
32:32 it's all the works of satan they build your trust they trick you they seduce you to come into their world and to see that they're not the same person they're not the same person you seek them but it's always on their terms they never appear when you ask it's always on their terms and that's something people need to realize why is it always on their terms because it's all part of their deception they're very manipulative they're masters of deceit and manipulation so um the great ufo and alien deception ufo alien enthusiasts around the world have fallen for a grand deception on a massive scale and it's getting bigger and bigger they believe that either all ets or many races at ets are here to save humanity from destruction that's about to come upon the earth what that is is actually god's wrath many people are wishing worshipping them and openly trying to communicate with them they use various contact modalities such as the ce5 where they have the lasers and they they they point them to the the craft or you know and the craft will do a power up and flash and all sorts of you know signs and wonders um which gets people really sucked in that you know into this whole belief that they're from outer space um there's a contact apps you can put on your phone they have frequencies and tones to attract them there's all sorts of things and people have been told by channeling these so-called uh aliens which really are demonic spirits that they're here to help humanity but they're also the creatives of humans and this is one of the biggest lies and i know you know this fred because you've talked about it in in your work that you do yeah and the star seeds is a term that these people believe that they're actually half breeds of aliens themselves they believe that they're a hybrid themselves and they call themselves star seeds wow um they are created they believe that they're created by aliens but and they also believe that they're created by the god and the bible is just a fairy tale so you can see the deception is taking people on a journey away from the truth yeah the truth of the one and only god and uh that's down a path of destruction that it sends them on this path of destruction well so you've introduced a lot of new terminology that i didn't even know about star seeds or something that i haven't i haven't even delved into i've heard of palladians and a lot of the other characters that that uh the devil uses to try to trick people and i think they're going to play a big part in and in in the season to come but the uh but it's all a deception exactly what you said it's all it's all a lie but that's that's fascinating please go on uh i'd like to quote matthew 7 14 it says enter through the narrow gate for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction and many enter through it but small is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and only if you find it so uh it's talking about jesus he is the way the truth and the life and that's the path that people want to take um what i feel these uh entities are a soulless demonic entities fallen angels masquerading as supposed et races um they're not from outer space or other planets they're definitely interdimensional dimensional and they can slip through the veil and pop into our physical plane um they can appear as a solid form you know people can see the sasquatch people can see the et they appear solid and physical they do appear solid and that's what's amazing about this you know i actually had a producer friend of mine who we were talking about a while ago and he was talking about the film and he recorded a show at a studio called little light studios where we were um together
37:19 with him he was talking about his film and one of the stories he mentioned and this this isn't out yet on their channel so this is like uh content that is going to be released this week and so people that are watching this right now if you're watching right when the video comes out you're going to see this um clip and it's not going to be released yet but what he talks about in here is exactly what you're talking about he says that he had or or he knew people that had relatives that appeared to them that were dead and the bible tell us tells us not to talk to the dead ever ever ever right so so when these people appeared they said they could feel their breath they could feel their their body heat they said they could feel their heartbeat i mean these things didn't come right through the wall they appeared as physical and they said they could feel their body heat they said they stood up and they talked about the ilelia story and they i can't you know i don't know too long as i think they they scandalized him that it would have been um they came out in the cell and uh they just got there kind of a lack of character but he she wrote a song called cabaret limitations it's in the same label with his name but we didn't see his face yeah it's named caterpillar and it's in the uh ichigo hey it's where he wasn't really mentioned because we haven't heard that frame i don't know for sure so so because people might be still reading it you saw took away that uh She had been a writer in Hollywood during the late 70s, early 80s. She was very successful at the program she had done. Now she's retired, and she has time, and she would love to help. Well, do you partner with people before you find out a little bit about their worldview? No, you shouldn't. Yeah, usually not. So we chatted for a while, and as we were talking, she let me know that she was a Sunday Protestant, that she went to church faithfully every Sunday, and we were talking.
39:13 And then she said, you know, my son passed away 15 years ago. And I said, oh, I'm so sorry. She said, oh, that's okay. He came to visit me two years ago. I said, really? She said, oh, yes. She said, I was in my master bedroom getting dressed one morning, and he walked right through the door like he did when he was alive and came and sat down on the bed next to me. And he looked at me and gave me a big hug, and I said, Esther, can I interrupt you? She said, sure, what is it? I said, can I ask you a question just to clarify? This was not a spirit that came through the wall. This was a physical body that came through the doorway and sat down. She said, absolutely. You had to open the door. She said he had his hand on the doorknob. He came in. She said he sat down next to me. And these were the proofs, because remember, seeing and feeling, and hearing is becoming the nature of reality for the world.
40:12 If you see it, you believe it. It's becoming truth. It's becoming their truth. Right. Right. And so she said, I felt the breath on my neck. I felt the warmth of his skin. He embraced me, and I felt his heartbeat. That's crazy. That's scary. Yeah. How is she just not, like, freaked out? She was describing it in detail. Very physical characteristics. And then she said. He didn't stay long, and he didn't say much. He got up, and before he went back through the door, he turned around, and he said to me, thanks, Mom, for getting the word out. Everything is light, love, and eternity on the other side. And he turned around, and he went back through the door, and she hasn't seen that manifestation of her son since then. The Bible tells us never to talk to the dead.
41:07 Right. And it was fascinating to me to realize that these spirits can manifest themselves in the physical form. I mean, how big does this how broad is this deception? It's just it was phenomenal to me. Anyway, go on. I don't want to take away from your story, but that's a revelation. You're exactly right. I mean, the deception is big, and they can appear, like you said, in that physical form. It's. It's mind blowing, yes, and the physical form is just that deception to really trick you into believing that that's real. So there's a grand plan for all these ET UFO things, and it's been in the making forever. And I believe that there's a huge deception coming. And. And we've been seeing UFOs in the sky for a long time, probably after 1945 or the 50s.
42:19 Everything's just escalated. But in the last ten years, everything has even escalated again. It's just gone. Exponential. Yes. It's it's crazy. When I was in the new age circles, this is what people would talk about. So I'm going to touch on those things. They believe that there's going to come a time where the UFOs are going to pick them up and take them off planet. They believe that it will come just as the destruction of the planet happens. They believe that these alien beings are going to rescue them and take them to a fifth dimensional plane. And. And a new earth. And it's all about they talk all about the frequency and the ascension.
43:13 And they they say that if your frequency isn't high enough, you won't make it. You won't go and and people will be left behind. Now, doesn't that sound similar to the rapture? Yeah. I was just thinking that. And doesn't it sound similar to how God's promised the new earth for us? So Satan has a way of twisting doctrine to deceive, but also to suit himself and his plan. So I just thought that's a very interesting time. Well, it is very interesting because what I find here is the most fascinating part of this. And I'm going to get off on a tangent here just for a second, because I think that you've stumbled upon something that I have never seen or put together before. And I think most of us on this channel haven't put together before.
44:04 That this. Rapture. Or I guess they would call the secret rapture might be completely a demonic prophecy. Now this is now follow me on this because there are two lines of thought on the rapture. One has been conjured up by a movie called Left Behind, which you have people falling out of the sky or planes falling out of the sky. You have all kinds of people disappearing and then you have a second chance. But we find nowhere in the Bible where there's a second chance. People got onto the ark. The door closed. And that was it. There was no, hey, it's raining now. Now you guys can get on the ark. I mean, it is done. And Jesus parallels these two events in history, the second coming with the ark. There's no second chances. So what's really interesting is that the Bible says that the rapture, the true rapture is going to be loud. I mean, I think Revelation says every eye will see him.
45:00 Psalm says there's going to be storms surrounding him when he comes in. And I think Paul says in the Corinthians. That there's going to be loud trumpets. So there's not going to be any form of this that's going to be that's going to be quiet. And I don't want to take away from what you're saying, but it's truly fascinating what you've found. Yes, definitely. So when I was a researcher and a counselor dealing with the people who are having the experiences as I was myself, I worked with these people. And I took I took down lots of notes because I wanted to back that up for my own research and development in that area. So I'd like to talk about what my research was about and what it revealed.
45:56 So I found there was I broke it down to two categories. There was. There are people. There are people who are having experiences with what they think are ETs and seeing UFOs. Now, some call themselves an experiencer. When you look at those people. They mainly have positive experiences of more build benevolent type. For the person that would classify themselves as an alien abductee. The experiences. Would. Predominantly be more benevolent. So it's interesting that they sort of have one more to call themselves an experience. The other one would call themselves an abductee.
46:48 Although they're both similar. Some have good experiences and some have bad. However, what my research shows is that the people that claim to have good experiences. Also. Have negative experiences, but they don't talk about it. Now, I don't know why they don't talk about it, but there is a lot of thing in the new age. That if you're having negative experiences, you're attracting it and you're getting what they would call attachments. What it really is, it's all too money and you're getting demonic oppression. But they don't see it like that. So in the new age circles where everything's love and light, they wouldn't talk about the negative things because you're perceived as being negative.
47:47 So, so, so wait, wait, wait for a second there. I like those keywords. You said, I'm very fascinated. Did you say love and light because of what I talked about earlier, or is that a term that is often used in the cult? It's, it's often used, um, and it's often used to, um, a lot of people would sign off on a message, how love and light, you know, as, as we would say, God bless, they'd say love and light because everything in new age is supposed to be all love and light, but it's not like that. But when people have bad experiences. Yeah. They don't talk about it because the other people would perceive them as having attachments or negative energies when in actual fact, it's really demonic oppression.
48:46 Yeah. And when people come out of the new age or a cold practices, they nearly all need deliverance and they, they would be delivered through God, through Jesus. So, um, these entities, um, masters of manipulation and deception, as I've said, this super intelligent, they're fallen angels, um, superior beings, you know, that have left their first estate because they've fallen, but they're very intelligent beings. They have supernatural powers and capabilities. Um, these, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. So these, uh, beings they're alien beings, they, and, and quite often they're, they're represented as being benevolent friendly, but they're not, You know, I find that really interesting because that that's brought up a lot.
49:53 I've, I've read in the forums and how these things are benevolent, but we see nothing benevolent about them. I mean, very few times have I've heard stories about, yeah, they, they took me and they showed me around and they, they. Speaker 2. they ended up teaching me about some bad religious practice or telling me that jesus wasn't actually a god or something like that but usually it's they've they've lights on a farm and cattle are dead or you know they've had some crazy abductions even the government has had pilots die from this thing they've had uh radiation poisoning from getting too close to these these round things of a light i mean this is all declassified stuff this is this is really fascinating stuff that everyone thinks that these things are benevolent yeah and how are they i mean it blows my mind to think how how is um this going to play in if it's obvious that all this stuff is happening that's not benevolent how is that going to be playing to the to the deception into time how is that going to be part of the narrative that that the devil uses is he going to say hey this is we got one team that's bad and that's the antichrist and the other team is good and i'm the good team and we're going to help prevent the destruction of this world i don't know maybe it's not good to theorize but it's it's really interesting that people suddenly think these things are benevolent anyway go on i'm i'm rabbit trail well well they do believe that there there's different races and they believe that there's there's um good races of ets and there's bad races of ets um personally myself i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know believe they're all demonic all demonic yeah all demonic there is no good there is there's no good and bad they're all bad you're just the people are just deceived the good ones they don't want to have anything to do with this earth right now we're quarantined it sin is a disease it's a it's a habitual disease and and and although god sends his good angels down here to to help us they're not going to reveal themselves like like satan has and that's totally wrong that's really fascinating go on yeah um so working with these clients I've compiled together my notes and um I'm revealing what what they actually said happened to them um and if it's very interesting when you look at these things um they would claim to have you experiences with friendly ets even though all the things i'm about to tell you took place yet they cannot see that this is strange or or a negative thing so some of those things on the list that i've compiled um is what would happen in the encounters and it's there's on that list there is dna collection excruciating examinations and procedures physical evidence of scarring so receiving physical deposits of material within the body or they would call them implants um they would describe the beings taking samples of skin hair and semen they would describe sexual encounters with the entities um um um both male and female now some would say they were pleiadian reptilian mantid beings or other grotesque type figures what is a mantid being what's what's that a mantid being it has a particular look it's sort of um tall skinny with an elongated head okay and it has very long fingers um and people describe the mantid being beings as um being great healers and people would often report they would come and do healings on them by these beings so the more sexual uh um beings that we know in the demonic kingdom is the incubus and the succubus ah yeah i've read history accounts of that where it sits on top of your your chest and it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like and prevents you from breathing and stuff yeah and it can be linked with the sleep paralysis as well yeah um a variety of different entities could be present at one time so um speaking to these clients i had they would always say that for example if back then i did uh regression hypnosis which which i don't do anymore um because i i feel that's also a um great way for these entities to come in but they would describe um when i was doing a hypnosis they
54:53 would describe that the being is right there present in the room with them and quite often you would hear a pop sound or a knock in the room but you wouldn't be able to pinpoint where that came from so these are some of the paranormal things that would come with that during hypnosis right wow yeah um a lot of the experiences would say that there was a uniformed military present involved in the abduction experience and they'd have visitations dreams or visions by these hybrid type beings and they were told by um the beings that were present in their uh abduction experience that these babies these hybrid children were theirs they were part theirs oh my goodness so these you said there's a military presence would that would they manifest themselves as humanoid military or was that yes yes interesting i quite often they would have an american accent oh wow great yeah um people would often leave their body have an out-of-body experience and they'll be able to come back to life and they'll be able to bring back the old body um and then they'd go back to life and see that's aش is of course not a social word but it's's a spiritual thing would often find um their clothing would be removed or put back on back to front or inside out so they would wait they would have an experience and they'd wake up and their pajamas or whatever were inside out now i had um when i was having these experiences um my daughter had on two occasions she said um mommy did you take my clothes off during the night oh my and her pajamas were rolled up in a very weird way on the on the floor um i don't know what that was about i don't know um often the experiencer would be asked to perform uh tests and they would be asked to perform a test and they would be asked to perform a test or puzzles in the experience and they didn't always have a choice to they were told to do it they weren't asked so that's interesting to note too um and often they were told um if you perform this task then you can go home so it's like a bribe there's a bribe involved and so this is a demonic agency telling them to do this through a through a an alien deception or this yes okay yes so you can see um there's a lot of manipulation involved um and of course there's the the missing fetuses which happens and has been recorded with a lot of people usually at 13 to 14 weeks um remember these experiences are complex and convoluted and we can't just pluck answers as if we know what's going on because this it's layer upon layer and you really need to dissect it even myself i don't have all the answers and i don't think it's possible to have all the answers because um we know how to stop it and it's jesus that stops it yes and jesus will put you back onto onto the right path and all the experiences will go away but um i don't think we have all the answers about everything that's happening is there a lot of women that experience this uh i mean i'm sure it's it's a percentage but is it it's not like one two or three that you've had come to you you've this is this is a phenomenon that's happened many times correct it's happening worldwide i couldn't give you a percentage um but then there's it's also happening to people who we never hear from as well um i've never told anyone about my experience because you know if you told a doctor or or um you know for any of these experiences whether you've got uh cuts bruises anything doctors uh they're they're not going to help you they're actually going to prescribe psychiatric medications and whatnot so the fact that it's it's so uh there's so so i and i i have i used to believe that this was a part of this must be psychiatric or something too but when you stack the evidence and you see uh um patterns
59:52 that come into this stuff and this happened and this happened and this happened and that happened the same person and that exact story happened another person and that exact story happened another person when you see these patterns you have to go hmm this is not a mind game this is not something the mind's making up this is something that's going to happen to you and this is something that's that's someone else's mind is implanting in them because this is very strange yeah i do want to say when people are having these experiences it's very real it's very real and there's physicality to it you know um but um it's not what people think there's a there's a grand deception happening and it involves evil entities and once you get them out of the way and resume your life as normal you can see clearly for what it really is and for what it was for that person um but it's happening all over the world many many many people reporting um you know different experiences including the the missing pregnancies and also when you have um a miscarriage the fetus is inside an amniotic sack and all of that will come out but like myself and other women the sack is still in place it's empty so also in the research um when these um things were happening to them which were what i would classify as horrific you know samples being taken they're waking up with bruises and scratches and yet the fetus is inside an amniotic sack and all of that will come out but like myself and other women the sack is still in place it's empty but they would say that most of their experiences were good were friendly so when you question a person about that um looking a little deeper why they say that um and some of the things they would claim is that the beings would say they have to go through a process of these experiments sorry of these experimentation um and these beings would tell them it's it's for their benefit and they would say that it's for their benefit and they would say that it's for their benefit um that it's for the good of humanity and that the aliens are there to help us so they're really feeding into their mind that deception and they're told that these experiences they have a role to play and for the experience they're going through all of this it's their mission here at this time and they say the good will come later so these are some of the things that they were said and it's like they're under a form of a hypnotic spell type of a mind control with the whole experience um and the experiencer becomes very compliant to what they say and to what they're told to do and you have to wonder why they do that and if you look at um people who are doing this and they're people who have stockholm syndrome they tend to sympathize with the um the person that's manipulating them and it's a way that they're being programmed to um accept their fate or to accept that this is their mission and so they just go along with it um another thing i noticed is that the experiencer often feel like they're chosen they have this sense that they're selected for this major purpose which will be an event in the future to come wow um they're given a priority over these entities over other human beings so what i mean by that is some have authoritarian and that could be government leaders for example or it could be people that play a part and i don't want to mention names but some people are steering the alien ufo agendas and doing say c5 for example and their personalities are very well known and they're actually steering people in that direction and so i believe that these people playing those roles have been manipulated from these entities to take that authoritarian charge i hope that makes sense yeah i hope i explained that well i think you did yeah many believe that
1:04:59 they're earth ambassadors and leaders and um they're on this mission and they can't let it go until because that's their task um and they have such an overwhelming strong force behind that they they feel this force is pushing them to drive them forward and it's really uh could be possession of a demon or just a a stronghold that's over their life um what else can i tell you um they all say things like i've agreed to be on this planet at this time this is my incarnation to be on this planet at this time so they believe they believe in the reincarnation and they've been specifically um scheduled for this time in their life um and i too believe so some of that yeah stuff because i felt that overwhelming force and drive and when i came out of new age i was delivered i was delivered so it all went um so it's definitely like a stronghold um they have uh these beings uh tend to put people in relationships with other people there's uh a lot of people who are in relationships with other people who are in relationships with a lot of experiences will split up with their families and and satan comes to destroy kill and steal yeah and they split up with their husbands their wives and they link up with other experiences believing they're both soul partners on a mission together and you'll hear terms like um uh sorry he just wants it um twin flame soul tie and twin soul and so they they literally believe they're made to be together at this time to get the job done whatever the job is and it's a mission from the so-called aliens um and there's many alien ufos group promoting occult practices and they're run by very famous people in aerospace programs and i want to warn people please take this warning come out of it because these occult practices are going to open you up to the demonic realms are you talking about um the cult practices like remote viewing and um things like that yes so what what i'm actually saying is there's um groups that affiliate um themselves with promoting encounters with et races i don't want to drop names but um if people can read through the lines of what i'm saying they'll they'll figure it out these groups have people with high credentials in space scientific and professional medical fields and they have this authoritarian approach to to the alien agenda and they are sharing this with their audience and they're sharing this with their friends and they're sharing this with their friends and they're sharing this with their friends and they're sharing this with their friends so some of the practices they are pushing the narrative is ce5 ce6 encounters um as astral projection out-of-body experiences puja ceremonies meditating channeling mediumship table tipping ouija boards automatic writing you name it it's on the list and they're saying do it all if you want contact so i'm saying be beware yeah wow and this is in government or this this is the is this the entities that are this isn't just government this is just you know if you google in um contact with extraterrestrial beings perhaps these groups will pop up yeah and they're foundations that have formed and they're the foundations that have formed and they're the foundations that have formed to promote spiritual contact with these what they call alien beings and they're offering um
1:09:48 they're even offering uh tutorials how to connect with them but by doing occult practices um and i just want to read from the bible one timothy four one says now the spirit expressively says that in latter times some will depart from the spirit and some will depart from the spirit and some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teaching of demons and this is what we have today this is exactly what's going on today yeah and so it's evident that um this is more than just you know an odd ufo counter here and an experience there this is a whole what would you call that a program this is a whole thing yeah it's a it's a huge almost universe they've created to try to make um you know how a lot of hollywood for instance marvel calls their marvel system a marvel universe they've got characters that they've developed they've got a a a plot they've developed they have an end game they've developed this this whole universe of deception that they've developed is is being played out right now is what you're saying right that's right and i just want to make a point loud and clear that if a person i want all people to come away from that i am here as a servant of the lord dedicating my life to helping people come away from that and it gets me emotional just talking about it sorry no i understand it's a huge deception and many people are involved in it and they don't know how deep they are in it before before um before it's too late and that's why that's the whole point of doing this channel that's the whole point of doing this website it's it's amazing to me just as i got into it people say oh you know this is a really dark topic you shouldn't you shouldn't dwell on this stuff it's a deception we're told of immense deception that's going to come and and what are we supposed to do just sit around and say ah i'm not going to talk about that because it's not it's bright enough it's not it's not good enough we need to expose the darkness the bible says that's what i'm here to do and if anyone who's having contact with these beings and you think they're aliens here to help you i just want to share this with you test the being test the spirit in jesus name you can test the spirit um in jesus name but those demonic entities will flee they are not aliens they are demonic entities they are demons and they will flee right before your eyes in jesus name the bible tells us to test all spirits all spirits and and when they are tested they will simply vanish and hosea 4 6 says my people perish through lack of knowledge and one john 4 1 beloved do not believe every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they are from god for many false prophets have gone out into the world and jesus i found jesus after my own spiritual warfare battle and i submitted and i begged him for help to help me and he did and he took me out of all of it and i clearly heard his words set apart and he gave me um commandments to follow he's told me to pray and i prayed spiritual warfare prayers and i was delivered wow he set me apart he brought me out of darkness into the light and this phenomena completely stopped i haven't had i don't see ufos anymore and i don't want to i don't want to everything's stopped um if you need help come to new to christ.com.au um we've got rescue remedy to help every person that needs help i can walk you through this every step of the way and if you're in new age occult whether you're doing other spiritual practices like yoga anything reiki all demonic come out of it come out of it
1:14:42 now i'm sharing this with you i'm sharing this with you i'm sharing this with you i'm sharing this with you i'm sharing everything i can to help these people and um it's it's just my greatest pleasure to help people see the truth in what jesus is he's the way the truth in the life there's nothing else not buddha not allah nothing no one it's just jesus and so and so um all the wars the battles the politics you know the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the you know the life battles that we face daily dramas it's all about the same thing it's it's a spiritual war we're in and it's happening now whether we see it or not um and it's happening all over the world and the devil roams around like a roaring lion seeking who he's going to devour so this is also a battle for your soul when you come to jesus and receive self-doubt salvation through the lord he will save you and set you free when you part when your time comes you will go to heaven not to help this is important it's about your soul it's about salvation yes and um you don't want any part of that pathway of destruction because it will come it will come so i implore everyone talk to him today call to him ask him to set you free call upon him and knowing the bible is our truth we stand on the truth and that jesus is the way jesus in your life is a relationship with him and bradley i just want to thank you for allowing me to speak on your show and getting the message out and i hope i hope it's had some impact absolutely how i you're you're over there in australia in the land down under so do you do for people that may not be in your area do you do uh counseling over skype zoom or any other way most of my clients are based in the usa or other parts of the world i very rarely have people from australia so i operate with zoom and we just set up a time and a place and that matches our time schedule and we just go from there i don't charge um i do it all for because i love the lord and i want to bring people to him and um it's there's no charge whatsoever and it however long it takes you know whether it be three sessions five sessions it really doesn't matter i'm here for the people all right well i totally understand if you do charge someday so if this video is old and she does charge you i'm here for you i'm here for you i'm here for you i'm here for you i'm here for you that's totally fine because she could get inundated someday because i truly believe that this thing is going to be it's going to explode here pretty soon and you and you're going to need more than just you to try to help people out with this thing and i i really really appreciate you telling your story and showing us the true statistics of what's going on here giving a whole bunch of new terminology which i'm not going to go research but i at least gives us a little bit of uh an earworm so we know exactly what to what to watch out for and i really appreciate you and those those sound bites that give us um recognition on what is the dangerous parts of this stuff just like when someone says it's all light and love that's that's just fascinating to me that that should raise red flags and every everything we do but um i uh i so if if someone was to reach out to you is it through that website can you tell us the name of that website again yes it's new two it's the number two so new two cross dot com dot au and there's uh a place where you can fill out your contact details and just shoot me an email and we'll just go from there thank you so much lee for coming on the show tonight and uh i'm i'm looking forward to probably having you out here again but when we start having these things become a bigger problem in the world yes definitely i'd gladly come back thank you bradley thank you very much for having me on your show bye