Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet Tucker Carlson: US Gov Talks to Aliens

0:00 Another show, here we go. This one is gonna knock your socks off, so better be listening. We got some fascinating stuff coming up right here. Tim, a Navy rear admiral, just decided he was gonna step forward and start talking about this stuff. Boy, the narrative is getting deeper and deeper as we go. And we're following along to understand exactly what's happening. One minus three, we are go with all elements of the mission at this time. Yes, it is, here we go. And not only that, but we have Tucker talking a little bit more about this. He's telling it as it is, for the most part, at least for now. And we also have to explain what's actually happening here from the Bible, as we always do, because this is looking through this.

0:58 Through the lens of the Bible, as this show always does. Paul Inno, some of you might have heard of him. We're gonna talk a little bit about him tonight, too. He fits into this picture somehow. So make sure you hit that like button, hit that subscribe button, because we're gonna talk about a lot tonight. And you're gonna be wanting to know when we are talking more and more about this stuff. So stay tuned. Hold onto your seats, hold onto your hats. We're gonna be back very soon. We just passed the two minute mark in the countdown. T minus one minute. 54 seconds and counting. All indications coming in to the control center at this time indicate we are go. Guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds, leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds.

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3:49 And I've got a lot of B-roll, as they say, a lot of footage to show you. And so I gotta stop talking. I gotta stop talking so much and just get right into it. But before we do, I wanna explain that this channel came out of Starfall. A lot of you have seen the movie Starfall, starfallmovie.com if you haven't seen it. It's a short documentary. And it tells a little bit about how this whole thing got started, not from the very beginning, but from current day events. And so this whole thing, this whole podcast is following what is happening in the news, following what has happened in the mainstream, following what has happened in the mainstream media, following what has happened in the mainstream media, following what has happened in the mainstream media, following what has happened in the podcast. Because even Joe Rogan says, well, I'm mainstream media now. And I kind of believe him because people are not really wanting to watch the news anymore because they're thinking it's bias. So they're looking and going to these different podcasts to see what's actually happening, what people actually have to say. Because when they have people that are on the news on this stuff, they actually say a lot more on these podcasts.

4:47 So I'm digging into these podcasts. We're digging in these podcasts. I've got a group on a Discord, which is a kind of like a forum, which is a kind of like a forum, that you can go through on your phone, on your computer. And you can access that through my Patreon account, patreon.com slash strangenormal. And you can become one of us too, that is researching this and understanding it and going through this 24 seven, understanding it. And we kind of dig out the highlights and put it on this channel and see, so you guys can see what actually is happening here. Obviously, I'm a Christian. And so I'm gonna view this through the lens of the Bible, because that's how I view things. And I think I have a pretty good idea of what's happening here, because it fits like a cog right into Bible prophecy. And so I came and I have to explain this every few months, because there's a brand new set of people.

5:39 I spent 10 years in a Bible prophecy work-based system called Amazing Facts. Amazing Facts, I worked as IT and media. And so this channel is, this is my mindset. This is my gear system right now. I wanna understand how this fits in Bible prophecy and why haven't we been talking about this and why the churches aren't talking about this and what's gonna happen next. And we figure that out. So if you don't have a clue what we're gonna be talking about right now, go first watch StarFallMovie.com and then realize that weekly, tonight, Sunday night, at 9 p.m. Eastern time, we cover these events and you can watch it throughout the week if you want, usually for about an hour, an hour and a half. So with that out of the way, and I'm sure everyone knows that already, boring. We're gonna get into this actual broadcast here. Something major happened this week. It was Tim, he's a rear admirable, admirable, admirable, admiral, admiral, there we go, in the Navy.

6:41 And what is that? Well, it's an officer in the US Navy or course guard ranking above Commodore and below vice admirable. Man, I said it again. Admiral, admiral, I can't say admiral tonight, admirable. Boy, okay, and what we have is him coming out and saying some pretty amazing things. And he's doing it on all the large podcasts. So you know this is part of the whole group that is trying to get this narrative going that the government's lying to you and that they need to tell more about what's going on and we as the people need to know what they actually know in the government, which actually I agree with. We need to know what the government's doing with us so we can either put it to a stop or we can prove it as a people. The trouble with that is that I truly believe all Christians, rightfully so, will call this demonic. And I have a top 20 reasons why this thing is demonic on my channel and it's a pretty good video.

7:47 It's based after the Starfall movie. So you can kind of catch up on what's happening there. But I want to show you some things tonight on what Tim says about this stuff. I can't pronounce his last name. It starts with a G. And what intel he has been collecting about this stuff. He said some pretty interesting stories about nuclear subs and also about reiterating that there's something to do with donations that these things are living, kind of like the Prometheus effect that we've talked about in the past. Prometheus is a myth, but it has some basis on the idea that spiritual entities are providing things for their own benefit to us, physical things, real things. And it's kind of scary because I think we're going to see a lot more of that as time goes on. Wow, I'm just talking up a storm here. Let me get into the actual footage here tonight because you're going to really want to see it. But before we do, let's get to the news and we're going to talk and they're going to bring him on. And then we're going to get to the podcast where he actually talks about him.

8:47 Watch this. We're talking UAPs or UFOs and more specifically, USOs, Unidentified Subjects. Emerged objects, things that could be traveling through the water and the sky in ways we can't explain. And before we dive into that conversation, I want to keep things in perspective. So we're going to set it up with these two videos in particular. This video, which shows the tail, tail, tail, tail end of a very weird encounter between some fighter pilots flying off the Nimitz aircraft carrier and some weird tic-tac thing off the coast of California that according to the wing commander, seemed to have been communicating with some much larger craft underneath the surface of the ocean before it flew away at insane speeds. And then there's this video. This is from Puerto Rico. It was captured by CBP and it seemed to show an object fly in the air, then at one point dip into the ocean without losing speed, which is very, very, very weird. And we're talking about those two videos today because there's this new paper out by an extremely high ranking former Navy officer and oceanographer who references them and says very clearly, quote, the fact that unidentified objects with unexplainable characteristics are entering US water space and the DOD is not raising a giant red flag is a sign that the government is not sharing all it knows about all domain anomalous phenomenon, end quote.

10:02 So with us today is the author of that paper, retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, who is also the acting director of NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration for some time. He's also the Undersecretary of the Commerce for Ocean and Atmosphere. He holds a master's, a PhD in oceanography, also the oceanographer of the Navy. So sorry, Rear Admiral, but when someone, you know, with that kind of resume posts a paper like this, I am gonna take notice. Welcome to the show. First off, gotta ask, in your opinion, are there things moving around in our oceans in ways that we cannot explain with conventional science? And do you have any examples? A hundred percent. And you just showed two videos of those, Gotti, but also I know of eyewitness accounts from some Marine officers, as well as intelligence specialists who've seen classified video of these types of objects moving in ways we really couldn't do ourselves, and with technology we are unable to reproduce.

11:00 Have you ever seen any of those videos, or do you have firsthand knowledge or experience with something like this? I have not, but I know credible people who have. And I actually started to speak out about this because I did see something when I was in the Navy. On the Navy secret network during a big exercise, I received a secret email from my boss, and it was addressed to myself, and all the subordinates, all the subordinate commanders who reported to my boss, so 20 flags, admirals, and senior executives. And the title of the email was urgent safety of flight issue, and attached to the email was the now very famous go fast video, the leaked UFO video from Navy F-18s. And he asked all of us on the line if we knew what it was, and if we did, tell him, because he was gonna have to shut down the exercise.

11:51 If not, because these craft were having near midair collision, multiple times with the Navy aircraft. I knew then and there it wasn't our technology. And then the next day, it was wiped from my computer, and no one ever talked about it, this major safety of flight issue. And I was also the chief meteorologist in the Navy, and safety of flight was my job. So I wasn't able to speak about it, because I knew obviously it was compartmented in some special access program, and that's why when my boss sent it out, they wiped it all from everybody's computer. I'm coming out now to speak about this, because this is a major safety concern. We're not able to understand and track what's in our airspace and water space. Now, that was when you were in the military. I know you worked on a lot of classified projects.

12:43 I think at one point you were working on classified projects involving unmanned drones, sensors, the types of stuff that may or may not be adversarial. So without getting into the specifics, because I know your classification, we can't talk about that stuff, but do you think that there's a chance that some of what we are seeing is adversarial, is from another country, that has some sort of technological advantage that we just don't understand at this point? No, I don't think so. I've been read into all the threats. I had a high-clearance, top-secret, special compartmented information, and I know that our adversaries don't have technologies like these. If they did, we should be worried, but we should be equally worried, because they're being operated by entities, we don't even understand who they are and where they're from. When you say who they are or where they're from, and you're saying they're being operated, do they look like they're under intelligent control? Absolutely, they are. And we know now from the amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act last year that Senate Majority Leader Schumer introduced, called the Schumer Amendment, about disclosing UAP information.

14:02 We know now from that draft legislation that there are non-human intelligences visiting us in all domains, the sea, the sky, and we see reports over land. And they're using what they called in this amendment technology of unknown origin. So this is a national or global security concern, and the reason I wrote about the aspect in the oceans is that's my background, I'm an expert in it, and we'll never have a complete understanding of these phenomena unless we look at the ocean, too. You also wrote that we know more about Mars, the surface of the moon, than we do about our own ocean. You have a science background. I gotta ask, what do you think it is? Well, there's a number of possibilities. I don't know, and most of the intelligence community does not know. But it could either be from elsewhere in the universe. Some people speculate it could be from another dimension, but I don't think we have the mathematics to explain that, or the physics just yet. Or even, possibly, we don't know. Possibly within the planet somewhere.

15:06 None of this is known. And that's why we really need deliberate and expanded scientific research on these phenomena to understand that. I'm glad we have that in common. I don't know, you don't know, none of us know. Can't thank you enough for being with us, Rear Admiral. Thank you for your time. Fascinating, huh? Wow. So this is something that's come out in the news just recently, and I hadn't seen that video footage before. At the very beginning there, I'm gonna try to bring it back up here, of that thing that's going underwater. Switch that over and stop it. We're talking UAPs or UAPs. Pause it. I'm gonna scoot closer to that footage. Not this one. We've seen this one. This is the Tic Tac video. But this one, what in the world? This thing goes, and they're tracking it, and it goes underwater, and it comes back, and it looks like it's going the exact same speed.

15:58 Very interesting. I have not seen that before. And maybe I'm just out of the loop, I don't know. But that's a new footage I hadn't seen yet. And we know what these things are. This is the only channel that talks about this stuff and already has answers for it. We don't just provide questions and let you figure it out like all the other UFO channels. Because we're not a UFO channel. We're a Bible prophecy channel. And what I think is interesting is that this guy has some even more things to say about this because he's a little more at liberty to say some crazy stuff when he's on a podcast. He's talking to a single host, rather than talking to the news, which is, this isn't NewsNation that we usually talk about. This is, in fact, I didn't even peruse NewsNation this week. This is NBC, I think it was. The Peacock, I guess that's NBC.

16:50 And they're picking this up now. So it's even deeper and deeper in mainstream media, not just on the cold, the cable network media. But this is interesting. So let's dig into what he says. He says he has a story about a nuclear sub, that happened. And he wants to tell a little bit more about what happened there. So check this out. This is a good story. So as I've come out, if you will, or I've been speaking out, and I am what I am. I have the scientific background. I was an authority on these topics of ocean science and exploration. People have looked to me and said, I bet if I tell him, he seems like a straight shooter, a credible guy. I guess. And so a submarine came to me and virtually we had, and he just said, Hey, I was on a sub in the eighties.

17:44 I'd like to talk to you about what I saw. Okay. Yeah. Let's have a call. I got on a call with him. He's out. He was a nuclear submarine officer. Now he's an engineer. And I think for an energy company. And this guy is like most nuclear submariners I know. He is just the facts. He is by the book very much that way in his personality. He is by the book very much that way in his personality. He is by the book very much that way in his personality. He is by the book very much that way in his personality. He is by the book very much that way in his personality. And the story he shared with me was this. He's in the North Atlantic in the eighties, cold water is hot and their sub is operating. I wouldn't say super deep, but it was very high sea state because of a storm, 40 foot waves. So they were below that, but even there, they were kind of rocking. Subs can feel that wave action. And so because it was so rough, it creates a lot of ambiguity and ambient noise.

18:36 And in those conditions, it is really hard to passively detect another submarine. So they felt pretty secure. They weren't gonna be detected by a Russian sub and they probably weren't gonna hear one either. And so he's on the watch and all of a sudden, they get a passive hit, a contact that's moving off the starboard at some range. I don't know the range, but then it paused and then started closing on them rapidly. And they call it constant bearing decreasing range. And you don't want that. When you're a ship driver or a sub driver, I drove ships, aircraft carriers. I was a deck watch officer. You know, that's gonna be a collision. And they had, that was every feature that a Russian torpedo would have in terms of the constant bearing decreasing range at a very rapid rate.

19:33 And they were so convinced, captain of the bridge, they set general quarters and they dived and it kept on coming and it kept on coming. And they were hoping to get below some acoustic lens or whatever that it wouldn't be able to find them and lose track and it just kept coming. And so they went as deep as crush depth, just above it. Crush depth is that depth that submarine will implode. And that's a dangerous place to be on an older sub like this, but they were convinced this was a Russian sub coming at them. They had some range close, I don't know what, it paused. And then slowly took station on their stern behind them and trailed them for a while. So they're getting this passive acoustic hit of something doing this. And then after minutes maybe, it just rapidly departed the scene.

20:26 And there was no explanation. The Russians didn't have technology like that. We didn't have technology like that. And again, to this day, he doesn't know. I wanna get that data. The data is collected and archived at Johns Hopkins University. And I'm in the process of reinstating my clearance. And I wanna look into that. Wow. Yeah. Are there a lot of examples like this? So I don't know, but I have talked to one other submariner, nuclear submarine officer, who says that he's not seeing that before, but when you go around the Navy and talk to other sonar techs, they say they do see these quite often. Really? Yeah, and this guy's very credible. He's actually a reservist. And his day job is he works in the Pentagon. All attracted to nuclear subs? I don't know. But this is an interesting thing. And I wrote a paper about this called Beneath the Surface.

21:29 We may learn more about UAP if we look in the ocean. It's on the Sol Foundation. It's on the Sol Foundation's website. And I write about that because we know, and there's a book on this, that UAP seemed to be attracted or active around nuclear sites. Is it because that submarine had a nuclear reactor and had nuclear-armed missiles? And what about the Nimitz and the Theodore Roosevelt? Aircraft carriers, is it because of their nuclear power? Maybe is that attracting them? I don't know, but it's a very interesting correlation. Interesting, huh? Someone asked in the chat, is there a scripture talking about demons coming out of the water? What's interesting is that in the Egyptian times, they worshiped the water. They worshiped the water. They worshiped a lot of things. They worshiped the frogs.

22:19 They worshiped the sun. They worshiped all these different things because during that time period, they were seeing these things. They believed that these beings were coming to them and saying, we are gods of X, Y, and Z. We are the creation of your crops, of storms. You see this all over the place. They want to be worshiped because they are fallen and they want the same thing God has. During some break here, I'm going to try to find that verse, but it does talk about how God went to great lengths to show that he was above these little g gods and that he was capable of overpowering them because he messed with everything. They were in control. They were in control of in those 10 plagues. He messed with the water, turned it to blood. He messed with the frogs, the flies, everything from even the firstborn son who was meant to be the next heir to whatever, the highest part of your family.

23:21 And so, major, major things he did to the Egyptians because they had such a hard heart and all this stuff. So it's no surprise to me that these things are coming out of the ocean, that these things congregate in something that we don't look deep into, pun not intended, and that we don't have very well mapped. It could be, since they don't need to have heir apparently, I mean, we don't know that for sure, they don't need to have the same physical needs that we do, that they, that's where they meet. Maybe that's where every 100 years they meet under the water somewhere. Who knows? We do know there's a physical aspect to them. And throughout all of history, Tucker Carlson at the end of the show is actually going to bring that up. How in every religion, in every culture, even though he says he's Christian and he believes that Jesus is very different from the rest, he says that every culture and every religion of that culture talks about the spiritual realm becoming physical.

24:25 Christianity talks about it a lot more as we had our actual God, our real true God, Jesus Christ, come. He's searching for us and die for us in physical form. And so, I think it's very important that we think, you know, this spiritual world that we live in right now, this last 300 years or so, 400, that has happened is very unusual. And I say those numbers specifically because there used to be a lot of superstitions that were around back then. And it wasn't just because... People made stuff up to be funny, it was because things happened. Things happened in the earth, things happened in the sea, things happened on land, things happened on the 13th floor, things happened when a black cat crossed your path. Things like this really happened and people believed it. Not all the time, but enough for people to make superstitions out of it.

25:27 So what happened to all that stuff? Was it just gone after a while? Yeah. It was. Because in the 1700s, everything went underground. And Satan and his minions said, you know, if we can convince people that this whole thing is just a lie, this whole spiritual realm is just a fantasy, then we can convince them that God isn't real as well. And so that's what he did. And so atheism was born. You have not just born, but it became a bigger, bigger part of society. Evolution. Yeah. That nothing came from nothing, or everything came from nothing when it made a big bang even though you can't observe it. It's somehow fact and it's still a theory, because it's not true. And so you have all this idea that is happening right now and it's all based on something that we can't see, a fight that we can't see right now, which is in the spiritual realm.

26:26 Keep that in mind as we go into this next section, because physical things, just as in the plague, can become a reality. Can become a real thing. Can become an absolute deception. And I explain what that means by that in this short clip of Tim talking about this next idea. Watch this. Another in Diana's book, Diana Pasilka encounters, she interviews this NASA engineer. I think he was a contractor, so not a federal employee. But he calls them donations that possibly they're doing this on purpose to help advance our society or something. Give us little breadcrumbs, if you will, technology breadcrumbs to assist.

27:22 I don't know the veracity of that, but I just know that's what she puts in her book. So that's an interesting aspect of it. Very interesting. Very interesting. What is he talking about here? Well, he's talking about the idea that you've heard throughout history that there have been UFO crashes and all this other stuff. No. She says, well, you know what? We have had things that have appeared. And apparently, this isn't coming out yet, but we're watching this on this channel very carefully because many, many people that are credible are coming out right now and saying that we are reverse engineering some new technology that isn't from our adversaries, that we don't own. And we don't know where it comes from. All we know is that it appears. And Diane Posolka, who is a religious professor, has been privy to some of the information. She works at a credible university. And she says that this stuff is given as gifts, according to her sources at NASA.

28:18 It's not crashed UFOs. They just go somewhere. And because of something they've done or an agreement they have, maybe, they are given gifts to grab technology from. Could demons do this? Let's think about this for a second. Absolutely. Because you see in the Bible where there have been absolutely demonic deceptions, right? The first couple plagues were duplicated by the magicians of Egypt, by demons, basically. And so, what's, well, not the magicians were demons, but they were working with demons. And so, what I'm saying is that it's amazing to see what is happening. What's happening here, because if that does come out, can you imagine this scenario? And this is something I'm just making up. I made this up. I talked on a different channel talking about this idea and this idea of Prometheus, demonic entities giving gifts to the United States government saying, hey, we'll help you advance society.

29:21 Because for 5,000 years, we've been lobbing cannonballs at each other or bows and arrows. And in the last 100 years, somehow we have LED light and cameras. And all this other stuff, what is going on here? Is it just us? Suddenly we have a dawn of a mind to put things together and now we can do stuff? What happened? What happened here? Or could it be that something happened and demonic entities made agreement with our government and said, if you go to war with this country, it will advance you as a country and we'll give you technology to do that, to win your war. All you have to do is win your war. All you have to do is kill people. Because that's what they want to do. They want suffering. They hate God. So I'm not surprised if someday, if something comes out and says that, something comes out and says that, by the way, I'm your dead relative and all you have to do is do X, Y, and Z.

30:23 And it falls under killing somebody, doing something sexual, doing something that's against the Bible and will hurt God somehow. If that happens, it's not true. I don't care. Don't listen to it. Let me explain from the Bible exactly what I'm talking about here. Because I think this is pinnacle. Isaiah 19, 3-4, I'm going to prove from the Bible why the spirits that you talk to, or at least they were talking to back then, are not true. Not true spirits. They weren't the gods of Egypt. And not only that, well, it's even bigger than that. Let me explain. It says, In Isaiah 19, 3-4, in Egypt, The spirit of Egypt will fail in its mists. It will destroy their counsel, and they will consult their idols and charmers, the mediums and the sorcerers.

31:18 And the Egyptians I will give into the hand of a cruel master, and a fierce king will rule over them, says the Lord, the Lord of hosts. Spirit of Egypt. The spirit of Egypt will fail, and they will consult their idols, the charmers, the mediums and the sorcerers. And the Egyptians will give them into a cruel master. So what were they doing? They were consulting these idols, charmers, these mediums and sorcerers. All the Egyptians were doing. It wasn't true. It wasn't good. Numbers 25, 1-3. Now Israel remained in the Cajun Grove, also known as Shittim. And the people began to commit harlotry with the women of Moab. They invited the people to sacrifice of their own. gods. And the people ate and bowed down to their gods. So, what was going on here? Well, Israel, who was God's people, sinned. And they started serving different gods with a lower G.

32:16 And they bowed down to their gods. So, Israel was joined with Baal of Peor. You've heard the God of Baal. And the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel. Well, rightly so. So, remember that. So, they were serving gods. Let's go to a different part of the Bible to read about what it says about that. This is Psalms 106, 28. It says, they joined themselves, they, Israel, joined themselves to Baal of Peor and ate sacrifices made to the dead. Interesting. They made sacrifices to the dead, which the dead they assumed was their gods. We can safely assume that. So, first go to... Let's go to the New Testament, 1 Corinthians 10, 20. What does it say about the same scenario? Rather that the things which the Gentiles sacrificed, they sacrificed to what? Demons. So, these people were serving the dead that they thought were gods, but the Bible explicitly says they were demons and not God. He says, I don't want you to serve demons, so don't do that.

33:26 Interesting, huh? So, they were serving demons. So, anytime you see a dead relative or someone dead, it's not what you think it is. In fact, if you go to Ecclesiastes 9, 5, it says, the dead know not anything. Job says that the dead do not return to the house. So, when George Norrie or the other ufologists out there that talk on the radio, all the Georges, George Norrie, George... Not Luke. Lucas... What's his other name? Talk about all this stuff on the radio, how they think that UFOs are out there and all this other stuff and they're beings from other planets. They're all basing this stuff on their idea that they've had an experience. Each one of them has had an experience where they felt and seen a dead relative, which actually has been demonic entities. I go into that into another video called The Number One Reason... The Number One Reason a lot of people, a lot of Christians will not be saved or something like that. Search number one, just the pound sign, hashtag one on my channel, you'll find it. But I think that's really fascinating and I got to stick on my script. Otherwise, I'm going to talk all night. So, let me make sure I'm talking about the right stuff here.

34:47 Let's continue. Leviticus 19.31. Give no regard to mediums. This is the actual thing God said about this. This is important. It said, give no regard to mediums who have familiar spirits. Interesting. Familiar. What does that mean? Well-known. Family. Familiar spirits. Something that is familiar to you. So, if, in other words, a spirit that pretends to be your family member. Not always meaning family, but it could be something that is familiar to you. Maybe a close loved one, a friend. Maybe it was someone that you saw on TV. Maybe it was an apostle. Anyone that's familiar and says, oh yeah, I'm back from the dead. Let me tell you about heaven. Don't believe them. They shall surely be put to death. It was, it was, it was, God wanted you to stone these people. That's how bad it was. Let me go to another verse here. That's not the right one. Let's go to here. Let's go back to my notes here. A man or a woman who is a medium or who has a familiar spirit shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones.

35:57 Interesting. So, I find that very important, and I know a lot of you have already heard that if you're watching this channel, but it's so important to know where these things are in the Bible and how to understand it, because if you don't, you're going to be really messed up at the end of time. This is very important. So, let's dig into this a little bit further. We're going to come back to that rear admiral. I'm going to say it all night. And we're going to talk a little bit more about him in a second. But first, let's get into this. So, let's get into this. So, let's get into this. So, let's get into this. So, let's get into this. So, let's get into this. So, let's get into this. So, first, I want to get into Paul. You know, many of you have already heard of Paul, and I want to give a little bit of introduction to who he is, because I think a lot of people won't know. Paul was one of the first paranormal investigators of the early 1970s. He began while he was studying for the priesthood, so he was Catholic. His early mentors included parapsychology pioneer, which I'm not fond of, Dr. Lucia Hrein, and a few others who doesn't matter, and a legendary first-generation grandparents of ghost hunting, Ed and Laurie Warren. We're going to talk about what he has seen about this stuff, and we're going to compare it to the Bible, because I think it's important to get a characteristic of what these things are capable of and what you expect to see. As the time draws nearer that we, see these things for ourselves. Paul was an essential figure in, and the only surviving major eyewitness to the Bridgeport Connection, Connecticut, poltergeist case of 1974. Paul graduated from his two seminaries, but was expelled from the third because of his paranormal work, and about a year before, about a year to go before his ordination. So, he was deeply, deeply into this.

37:55 And he has some very interesting stuff that he wants to talk about when it comes to regarding this interesting information. So, I'm going to play a couple clips from what his findings are to give you an idea of what is being dealt with when he's inside this demonic exorcism. He talks a little bit about UFOs in this, too. Listen to what he says. Here we go. Now, in researching the first chapter of this book, I was, as Peter described, I was astonished to find something that I had absolutely forgotten. As Peter said, five of the seven people that Father Lawrence exercised were having UFO experiences. And you can see my notes. Now, I was not allowed to take notes at the hospital. I never really found out why, but I get back to the seminary, and my handwriting is just as bad as it is today, so I would type it out. I was going to say, like, that's pretty good handwriting. Thank you, Ben. Always nice to get a compliment from your son.

38:55 Yes. So, but again, here we go. Here's someone. Here's Barbara. This one in the yellow. Barbara, several times in 1971 and 1972, and again in June this year, this is 1973, saw little gray figures by her bed, but does not remember anything more. She said there were bright lights in the sky over the river, that's the St. Lawrence River, three nights before each of these events. Father C., Father Carter, said that sometimes, he sometimes hears this, and sometimes people report different kinds of animals or creatures. But especially with mental patients, he does not put much stock in the stories. In other words, these people were patients in the state hospital, so they were officially nuts anyway. So, he essentially said, don't pay any attention to it. I wish we had. All right. So, what's he doing? Well, he's going and investigating something, because he's saying that something strange is happening at this crazy institute, and I want to see if it's actually crazy or if it's legit. So, listen to what happened next. This is Barbara. This is taken just, well, actually several years after her exorcism, and a lot of these things did not end well. People think you go in and exorcise somebody, and now the demon, quote unquote, leaves, and that's really all there is to it.

40:13 And one of the questions that arose, and I think I know what some of you may be thinking, and that's, you're going to give the Christian line that all UFO experiences, all aliens are actually demons. No. It could be just the opposite. What? So, I'm not, you know, sort of carrying the party line here. Hmm. Okay. Let's talk about that for a second. So, obviously, I don't agree with what he's saying. I mean, obviously, they're angels. Angels can be good or they can be evil, depending on what they have decided to do. They have been cast out of heaven, they're demonic, and they have corrupted their idea of what is true. Or they can be good. But chances are, if you're going to experience what he's about to experience, they're not good. And so, I don't know how he comes up with the idea that these things could be the reverse of bad, which is good. So, let's continue to listen to what he has to say.

41:23 I'm lucky I graduated, but I did. And Barbara was doing okay by that time. When we were dealing with her, she was emaciated. There were times, particularly during the first exorcism, this was done three times, that she was somehow just totally out of it. Of course, as I say, she was floating out of the chair, and Leonard, I did not know any more about him. We had to push her back down into the chair. At these touches and sessions, there was a doctor always present. There were two assistants, myself and Leonard. And there were two nurses and plus Father Carter. So, Barbara was not, and most of these people I found later on, the Father Carter had to come back and exorcise them again. And I think the reason for that was that I don't think it was what it appeared to be. I don't think we were doing the right thing. The theological understanding of demons was, I think, all wrong. I didn't think about any of that ever anymore. But she was particularly aiming bliss. At this exorcism sessions, there was a doctor always present. There were two wrong, and I think all we were doing was feeding it, like feeding a shark. Because what we believe, and Shane Searway's going to talk more about this tomorrow, was that these were not servants of Satan. These were life forms, parasitic life forms, that I have, in ensuing years, had physical contacts with and struggles with, and they were simply feeding right off the ritual of exorcism. Okay, the logic leap here just blows my mind. Okay, no, they weren't evil. They weren't demons. They were parasitic. What? What else is there in the spiritual realm besides God, good, and evil? I mean, God is good. So, good, there's only good and evil, right? What in the world? Parasitic what? No, that's demonic activity. How does he come to that leap? Maybe you can explain that in the comments if you want.

43:17 I know this guy better, but I couldn't figure it out. So, let's continue to hear what he says with this story. It's a fascinating story. Listen to this. What was it? In the exorcism prayer, there is a, the first part is a demand that the demon give its name. Now, this comes from two instances in the gospel where Jesus demanded that the demon give its name. And so, it got carried over into the ritual practice of the early church, and then into the Catholic church. And I said to Father Conner, I said, Father, you know, what makes you think this is its real name? And there's an old, old belief throughout humanity that if you have someone's name, you have control over them. You have a certain power over them. Why do you shake someone's hand as soon as you hear their name? With that logic, if you shake someone's hand, you have power over them. This doesn't make any sense. Because that's a sign. The whole idea of waving and shaking the hand came from the practice, presumably, of showing someone you did not carry a weapon in your hand. And that you were not a threat to them. So, the whole thing, giving your name, shaking hands, showing an empty hand, it's a sign of no danger. I'm not going to hurt you. So, when we had these name giving, I said, how do you believe them? And he said, well, they're bound by the authority of Christ, of the church, of the church through the Christ and the ritual, not to lie. So, I know that really wasn't good enough for me. So, but I'm going to give that's, you know, I was 21 years old, who's going to listen to me? So, that was what he said. Don't worry, these demons are bound. They can't lie anymore, because we've said magic words. That's not how this works. You need to go back and study your Bible. That's, yeah, Christ might be, you know, Christ should talk to these things. You don't. Don't talk to these things ever, ever, ever. This is why, wait, there's so many movies made about this. Oh, go get a priest and make an exorcism.

45:21 This doesn't make any sense at all. Hey, tell me your name. All right, name, uh, Baal, get out of there. Yeah, see how that worked? In the name, if you say in the name of Jesus Christ and Baal get out, you better have a connection with Christ. Otherwise, you're going to get beaten up and battered. That's really what happens. We're going to go over that in just a second, but let's listen to the story. But there was, during her exorcism, there was an, there was a moment when he demanded the name. It didn't give the name right away, but then it went into one of the exorcisms. There were three exorcism prayers, very belligerent, expressing authority. I felt this thing getting stronger. I don't know why nobody else felt it. The most, this, this is why I ran this lecture past the KRI group in Stratum a few months ago, because to see if I could get through it emotionally. As, as Peter said, I worked very hard to bury these memories. And the background of what I'm going to tell you next was in 1961, when I was seven years old and was witness to my father's suicide. Obviously a, or probably the most telling moment in my life. So I'm standing many years later, you know, 1973 in this room doing with this priest who's doing an exorcism. And it, it gave its name.

46:46 And this voice that was not this girl's, it was a low, I don't know, vile voice. It said chow. I interpreted that as C-H-A-L-L because that, that's what she said. Her guiding spirit was chow and the Asian prince from who, you know, all this baloney that they give you. And in my mind, when I heard it say chow, I said baloney. Just, just in my mind, just to myself. Somehow it occurred to me. And it came out and, well, first of all, here's the background of Barbara's case, but it came out and said this. I'm going to pause it right there. Those who can read Malay and Indonesian and those languages that are very similar will understand what it's about to say, but I'm going to leave you on a cliffhanger for those English speaking people. It is very interesting because let me tell you right now, these demons, they know exactly how to hit you. This is why you don't talk to them. I'm going to come right back to this. In just a second. But they know your whole past. If you don't want them revealing your sins to all your friends during an exorcism, if you don't want them talking about your past, if you don't want anything like that happening, you don't talk to these things because that's what they love to do. That's what they have over you. They have thousands of years of psychology built up to figure exactly what they need to say to really aggravate you. Really aggravate you.

48:16 I'm being dead serious here. I'm talking to you. And so you don't talk to these things. You don't try to get their name. You don't tell them to leave. You do what the Bible says. You pray fast. That's how you defeat this thing. Pray fast. Have that relationship with Jesus Christ. I'm going to tell you before we get back into that scene, cliffhanger, just like they said in the chat here. Thank you so much. I'm looking for where I saw it. And you guys talk, you're talking. Quite a bit here. I can't even find it. Acts 19, 14 through 16. And there was seven sons of, how do you say that? Sekva, a Jew, a chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered, this is during a, when they were trying to cast out a demon and said, Jesus, I know, and Paul, I know, but who are you? And the main, and the man who, whom the evil spirit was leapt on them and overcame them and prevailed against them so that they flew out of the house naked and wounded. Naked and wounded. All right. There's another section that talks about this. I should just put it up on the screen here. It says in verse 16 of the same area, or we just read that, that one. It says that during Christ's time, the disciples also tried to heal. This was in Mark, nine. It's also in Matthew. And it says here that the, they tried to, to cast out the demon, but they couldn't do it. Oh, faithless generation, how long must I be with you? Christ said.

50:00 And they asked, well, how, how long has it, how long has this been happening to him? Christ said. They answered him. And, and, and Jesus says, if you can believe all things are possible to him who believes, but the problem is we don't have very much belief. And so the disciples asked, how, how could we not cast this out? He said, so he said to them, Christ said, this kind can only come out by nothing but prayer and fasting. There is something about prayer and fasting that is super, super important. And that's the, that's the key to exorcism. If you have these things, and there will be more and more of this as time moves on. This is the key, prayer and fasting. Let's listen to the rest of the story. How was this guy hit so hard by this? This is really interesting. Watch what he says. Watch what the, the entity said to him to really, really mess him up. This is perfect melee. Now, had this been in English, I would have lost it. The doctor had to look it up because the doctor was recording all this. I don't know where all the recordings are.

51:07 There might be in the Vatican for all I know. This translates. I was there when your father committed suicide. I told him to do it. This thing said this to me. They wouldn't tell me what this meant until the end of the school year. And finally, Father Cotter sat me down and said, this is what this thing said. And I'm glad if I had known it there, I just, I just would have lost it. So if anybody asked me what was the most profound moment in almost 50 years of paranormal research, that was it. Hitting home, they know, it knows just where to hit you. And it fed off that even afterwards, because even if I didn't know what it meant, it was, it was incredible. Sounds like there's a lot more to that story that he's not telling. And I want to reiterate here that there's very important that you don't talk to these things. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate your support. This thing doesn't happen except for you. And I want to, I want to express to everybody, if you're willing to continue helping this ministry continue, because I think this is probably one of the most important things that we can do.

52:15 And I want to express to everybody, if you're willing to continue helping this ministry continue, that is understanding this from the truth of the Bible and trying to get this word out before it's too late. I believe that we can make a difference and that we are pushing this message forward, the truth about this stuff, even when the churches are not. So if you're willing to help, join patreon.com slash strange normal, patreon.com slash strange normal. And let's continue on with what's going on here. Lots, lots, lots more happening. So let's continue on with a little bit more of the story. So Barbara's case started out as many cases do drug addiction. And we often would find that mental illness and addiction was intertwined with paranormal events. External phenomena, as we said, was common floating objects. During her case, as we were leading up to the exorcism prayers, there was pounding outside the window on the second floor. There were people, she had to be isolated in a private room because, uh, the other patients were disturbed by the fact that something was tearing her covers off her bed and stomping around the room. Ouija boards, bad stuff. Child, Asian prince who came through the Ouija board. This is classic alien encounters and possible abductions. And that's where we get into our connection here. Now, again, I don't think this is because aliens are actually demons. It may be the opposite because we're not, for example, in my own experience, all I can do is rely on my own experience. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this is, this is what is really happening.

53:51 1974 in Bridgeport, Connecticut, uh, with Ed Lorraine Warren, I was working in a house that had with them on, uh, probably the most, the best witness poltergeist case, probably in history. William J. Hall, who unfortunately isn't here, he wrote an excellent book called The World's Most Haunted House. And he interviewed not only the surviving witnesses, including me, but many of the police officers who had been there. For example, and I've mentioned this in previous lectures, I've probably mentioned this in previous lectures, I've probably mentioned this in previous lectures, I've probably mentioned this in previous lectures, I've probably mentioned this in previous lectures, I've heard it before. I was standing there in the kitchen of this little house in Bridgeport. We had three police officers from the city police department on my right, three firefighters on my left, and we all saw a refrigerator pick itself up very gently, lower itself back down. I was hitting the leg by a flying television set. Uh, they would, things were on and on and on for three days. And, uh, the Warrens, we were waiting for an exorcism to be, uh, permission for an exorcism from the bishop. We were waiting for an exorcism to be, uh, permission for an exorcism from the bishop of Bridgeport, which never came. There was a priest involved and all this sort of thing. It's, it's all in the book, or I'll, you know, it's in books I've written, too. So, it just, when these things manifested to me, it was, it was the Monday night of the case. We'd been there, uh, already for more than 24 hours. The Warrens were off to do some kind of a TV show. I was in the house alone with the family, uh, which was the little girl named Marcy, the parents, a reporter from the Bridgeport Post, John Sopko, and one of the neighbors. Four things came out of the kitchen. Came down the hallway. You could all, you could see, like, these gauzy structures. One of them stood in front of me. I knew it was after the little girl. And this is where, this really brought things into clarity for me as far as these parasitical entities are concerned. Because this, as, as I got angrier and more, more annoyed, it fed on it. It got stronger. I pushed against it. It was right in front of me.

55:46 You know, because that was a, um, an instinctive move. He physically touched it. You can push against something that's threatening you. It pushed back. This is supposed to be a spirit, right? It doesn't have bones. It doesn't have flesh. This thing did. Except you really, you could barely see it. It totally blew away any remaining old ideas I had. It got around me and threw Marcy across the room. But here's the, here's the connection. This thing was utterly alienated. I can't, but here's the, here's the connection. This thing was utterly alien. I can't think of a better word for it. I think, and, uh, of course, there, there's the abduction problem. And this is Bud Hopkins. This is, uh, you know who, and you were, what, it was, it was 03. There's no beard and there's hair. I don't think anybody knows. No, nobody would know. Totally, totally anonymity. And Ben's older brother, and of course myself and Bud Hopkins.

56:43 And for you to, for those of you who don't know who Bud Hopkins was, he was the leading abduction researcher of his day. A very, very pioneering fellow. Peter Robbins was a dear friend of his. And Peter just tells some wonderful stories about him. I don't know if Peter's here, but it's just, uh, I'm always moved by, by this. And, uh, now one of the things that Bud and I did on this case, this is in West Virginia, we found some time to sit down. And he showed me his album of wounds to people's bodies, uh, who were abducted. Wounds. And the gouges and the various things. And I said, Bud. This is very similar to a lot of things I see in poltergeist cases. And I said, wow, you know, what could this mean? I mean, is there a connection? And unfortunately he, um, was diagnosed with cancer shortly thereafter and was, we were unable to do any work together as we had planned, but I'd be very curious to see what the crossover points might've been between abductions and poltergeists.

57:38 And here are some examples, poltergeist cases. And, uh, many thanks to Kathy Martin for lending us these photographs. And of course, where do you draw the line? And, uh, Kathy and I and Ben and, and, uh, Denise Stoner, and a few other people often talk about these crossover phenomena. Do our labels really mean anything? You know, where does the poltergeist end? Where does the parasite end? Where does the alien begin? What exactly is going on during all demonic? Are we just pinning labels on it that we understand? So we're really just at square one. So again, the question, our governments or whoever working with aliens slash parasites, they're. There's a theory that they are, wouldn't we love to weaponize the paranormal? Wouldn't parasites get a lot of juice from pumping up government officials and again, not to get nuts here, not to get totally paranoid, but I think this, this is a real possibility.

58:34 Hmm. I'm sure that whole series is fascinating and what's he, what he gets into. And we might touch on that a little bit more, a little bit later, but, um, obviously he's, he's, he's onto something here. Are we just putting labels on things? Well, yeah, you are because all these things are, have the same agenda for the most part. They are all operating under a similar stance where there is no rules except for what they believe themselves, which makes them their own gods. And makes them want to make you your own gods, which is the exact lie from Genesis three that the snake told to Eve. So we can kind of see exactly what these things are from the very beginning. These things are demonic. They're the evil that is in this world that is here. And that's exactly what, what he's seeing right there. So I think it's fascinating to, to, to look at this and realize that there's, there's big things going on in the world that we can't see.

59:32 And I have written down here. Um, I think I already said it, Mark 9, 14 through 29 and Acts 19, 11 through 20. That is the story about them casting out demonic entities, which we, we did get already. Go. Go over. So switching gears here, Tucker Carlson, uh, has been in the news again, talking on the Sean Ryan show. We, we saw clips from the Sean Ryan. So at the beginning, uh, when he had a, uh, a short clip for talking about the, about Tim, the rear admirable, admirable, admiral, admiral. What's wrong with me? And, uh, and Tucker Carlson is, uh, came on his show and he talked a little bit more about what he thinks about. World War III, UFOs, and, uh, the disinformation that is happening. Even a little bit about how the, what the government's working on with spirits.

1:00:25 This was the most fascinating to me. And, and so we're going to dig into that now. I, I thought it was, it was be pretty interesting to understand what at least has been told him because he, he's being such a popular hand in this and, and believes it at least for now from our side of things. I think, um, he has a lot to say about it. So let's, let's jump in. Here we go. Do you think we're going into World War III? Really close to it, as you know. Really, really, really close. Why is he smiling? The fact that anyone would even consider getting within a thousand miles of f***ing around with a nuclear exchange just shows you that, um, the, the core impulse here is suicide. That's what we're really, that's what all of us are.

1:01:15 And that's why I personally think it's spiritual. I think it's, the word demonic is suddenly being overused. It's everywhere because it's real. But, um, yeah, if you see a human movement that's anti-human, the push toward nuclear war for its own sake is by definition anti-human, I would say. AI is anti-human by definition. Transgenderism is anti-human by definition. Transhumanism is anti-human. Do people act against their own long-term interests? Probably not, actually. So it's probably not human. I mean, I'm like, looking at this like very autistically. Very simply, trying to reduce it to its most basic elements and like any movement that's anti-human is probably not human. Is it? Probably not. Do dogs act against their own collective interest? Do caribou? Do porcupines? Do single-cell amoeba?

1:02:06 Do sea cucumbers? No, none of them do. No animal does that. Because it's not natural. Animals are part of nature. They do natural things. People are subject to the supernatural. So they do things that are not natural. Like kill themselves. That's why we're the only species that kills itself. Right? So when you kill yourself, whether slowly or all at once, you're being acted on by forces outside of you. Spiritual forces, obviously. Just trying to apply logic here. Tucker's laugh is a little creepy in a way. But I think it's interesting. And I don't... For those who wonder... I'm wondering, why am I going through Tucker right now? A lot of people believe that Tucker's on one side or the other. He sometimes wears the red band around his wrist. I don't get into symbology on this channel because I think that a lot of people are very deceived.

1:03:00 I do believe that there are people... There's a small, small minority. Just like Roger Morneau was a part of that minority of people that actually do know what's going on. But we've got to think about it from this perspective. Even those people, especially those people, are the most deceived. Because if they really knew what was happening here, they wouldn't be on that. That's anti-human. Because these things are anti-human. And Tucker shows that, I think, in a very good point, saying that it's anti-human to take your life. This is kind of a tie into what we were just talking about, how the demon said, I was there and I told your father to take his life. And it's anti-human to do all these things. I'm going to go and be a little political here and say that it's anti-human to erase life before it's born.

1:03:53 It's anti-human to push the idea that you can combine yourself with... Amalgamate with a machine, which is what they were doing before the flood, except they were doing it with animals. It's anti-human. It's anti-human. And I think that's 100% true. And because Tucker has done some bad things in the past, and he's gone into that. By the way, this is the... I'm going to say the name of this podcast because this is Sean Ryan Show. It's a very popular podcast. He's going to release this episode today. I haven't seen it yet. So I'm a little bit tongue-in-cheek on releasing some of this stuff because it's from his actual Patreon content. But it's just a short clip from it. And he released it. So I encourage you tomorrow or whenever at least, maybe it's tonight, to watch the Tucker Carlson one on this.

1:04:45 It's really interesting to see him go through this stuff and talk about this because Tucker gets into his life and how he grew up and how he did a lot of bad things, a lot of drugs, a lot of bad things, and he overcame it. And I think that's amazing. Drugs, alcohol, hard drugs, and he overcame this stuff. And so I congratulate him because I see a progression at least because I think we're all at a different level. Maybe we... We've come from the part... I mean, he was heavily into politics. His father was a well-known news anchor, got fired from his job. Tucker got fired from his job from being a little more boisterous to his management. Imagine that. And so I think it's fascinating to see what's happening here as Tucker comes to know the truth a little bit more and starts to study his Bible and maybe cleans up his language a little bit.

1:05:42 I hope so because it would save me some editing work. Tucker, thanks. Let's get into what he says about UFOs. You had mentioned several times that you think that the UFO, UAP-type phenomena stuff is all spiritual. Am I correct? I think so. And I don't... I mean, look, I should just state about every topic, like, I don't know shit. Nobody knows shit. Yeah, that's... Well, that is the root of all wisdom. As my father always said when we were kids, the root of all wisdom is knowing how ignorant you are and how limited your foresight is and all that. So I don't know. But, yeah, I would bet my house on it. At least some of it is. I mean, I'm sure some of it's, like, advanced technology that we possess. U.S. government clearly does possess a lot of technology that is not publicly known about or available or only in fragments.

1:06:32 I mean, that's clearly true. You've done a lot on this. I mean, that's why I first reached out to you because you did such an amazing segment on that. I was, like, shocked by it, how great it was. That's why I'm sitting here. So you know all this. And clearly, that's part of it. But there are other things that are... Clearly not that baffle the U.S. government. Here's what I'm really surprised by. And I've actually stopped gathering string on, as we say in reporting, stopped gathering string on this, gathering information because I'm satisfied that I know enough. And I don't really want to know that much more because what I think I know is, you know, this doesn't help me at all to know that. So that's a conclusion I've reached. I'm usually pretty curious. I've stopped being curious about this because I don't want to know anymore. You truly don't want to know anymore about it? I think I know. I think I know what's up. So I can't prove it. So I'm probably not going to articulate it. But I think I know what's up, yeah. But...

1:07:22 Can you articulate it? Well, I think it's a really old story. You know, I think it's a really old story. So that's what I think. What is it? Well, one, you know, I'm a Christian. And I am fairly sincere about it. I try to be sincere about it. More sincere than ever, for sure. But one thing... One thing that you notice about all, every world religion I'm familiar with, I'm interested in that topic, there are commonalities between religions. You know, Jesus is unique, and I believe in Jesus. So I'm not... I don't believe in any kind of pantheology, okay? I don't think they're all equal or anything like that. I think mine is correct. I think that... Sorry. But there are commonalities that are very striking between all world religions I'm aware of and all creation myths.

1:08:16 And... One of them, and this is, of course, true for Christianity, very true, is that the belief that supernatural beings take physical form. They all believe that. The Greek myths, Jesus, most famously. But that they take physical form, that they're not just like some ethereal, they're not just shadows floating around, specters, fog, that they're physical. Like, they're as real as the arm of your chair. And that they reproduce with people. Again, Christianity believes that. Jesus. No, they don't. Immaculate conception. Spirit reproduces with human woman. That's what the story is. And it's described in Genesis as well, in Genesis 6. Again, it's not just the religion of the ancient Hebrews or the religion of the modern Christians.

1:09:08 It's Hinduism as well. And the animist religions. The religions... To the extent we understand them or know about them, of the American Indians, all the same. So if every culture in the world that we know about has left any kind of written or physical record is reaching the same conclusions about something, maybe there's something there. Hmm? And maybe it's not so crazy to think that what everyone else has always thought since the beginning of time, which is that there is this combination in cases of, you know, human beings, and the spiritual realm, whatever that is. I can speak about it with no precision at all because I don't understand the specifics of it. But I know that it has been written about since people have been writing. And so it's a little weird to think that in 1945, really the day we dropped that first bomb on Hiroshima, from then until now, it's just a speck of time in the continuum of history.

1:10:11 For that one period, we've assumed that's not true. But everyone else has always assumed it is true. I'm kind of going with everyone else on that, just on the odds. Okay? It's a very long-winded way of answering your question, but I think that's kind of what we're looking at. I think there's some evidence that that's real. Fascinating. I like what he said there, except for one thing. And I have to mention this because—and I struggle mentioning this because I can't see where it's the deception yet. And so I don't know if it's—I'm just plugging away at things that really don't matter. Like the Pharisees in the Bible, whose woman will he be in the resurrection if she was with several—or if he was with several different wives? Who's it going to be? Who cares? Who cares? Jesus is like, you guys err because you don't know the Bible. Maybe that's where I err. I don't know. Maybe you tell me. Where is the deception in people believing that the Nephilim—I don't believe that.

1:11:10 I don't believe that. I don't believe the Nephilim are alien-human hybrids. I don't think we have any evidence of that. None. I think that they were giants in the day, just as the Bible says. But I don't care. I don't care if you believe that or not, because he's made a good point, and his points are valid. They can be physical beings. Absolutely. And we don't know the whole story behind that. And I don't think they can procreate with anybody, because everything in the Bible looks male. So if there's no female angels— There's no procreation. And certainly, we weren't created—females weren't created for procreation by angels. They just don't see them as female or male. Female, when they saw in the Bible, oh, there's angels here. Well, yeah, they didn't say, hey, there's female angels, because they don't look like females on their chests.

1:12:07 So they called them men. But these are giant kendals. They don't have anything. They have as much between their legs as they do between their armpits. Anyways, I don't think I can get any more graphic than that. Let me—let's continue with what he says on this topic. I think it's important to analyze, because this is the mainstream that's being pushed out right now. Even though this isn't the news, this is what people are getting their information from. So at least let's talk about it and try to figure that out. Watch this. I mean, I think that the real struggles are— that is absolutely a part of Christian theology. I didn't fully appreciate it at all. It's a part of every theology. In fact, it is theology. That is theology, the belief that the real struggles are in the spiritual realm. That has been a constant belief since the beginning of history, recorded history.

1:13:02 Everybody has thought that, except us in the West, since 1945. I just want—I can't say that enough. So once you get perspective on this question, you're like, okay, that may sound crazy. Two— To someone who thinks buying shit on Amazon is the meaning of life, but to every other person in the world, we may disagree about what the truth is. I'm sure we will. But we will never disagree with the fact that there's a lot of shit going on that we cannot see or measure with our senses. That is absolutely true. And, of course, looking back, you, like, have experiences. And we talked about this in Great Detail at Breakfast. You look back and you're like, okay. That's what the—duh? Like, the only— The only surprise is not that it happened, but that it took you, blockhead, so long to see it clearly. And then to admit it. There's, like, some—can I say one thing and then I'll stop?

1:13:53 I'm so—I cannot keep a straight trajectory with my thinking sometimes. But what I find so striking about the UFOs—this is the main takeaway I have— is, like, there's this debate, like, is this stuff, these phenomena, which are clearly, obviously real— I mean, there's no debate about that. There's a lot of shit that people can't explain in the sky and underwater. We know that. Fact. Is this—so the debate is, is this government technology, is it from outer space, or is it some spiritual realm here? I've already told you my view of it. But what I find so interesting—we know the government's lied about it. They're lying about it now. That's a fact. There's no way around it. They have absolutely lied about it in very elaborate ways. I am really struck—here's my current thinking on it. The main effort that the U.S. government has put into its disinformation, its lying on this topic, has been— Not to mislead you on the technology.

1:14:46 Like, they're not telling me they don't have anti-gravity technology. It sounds, from watching your podcast, that they do, which I believe. No problem believing that. Their main interest is in convincing you that the supernatural is not real. Hmm. That's—and if you watch—and there are people in the media who specialize in spreading these lies on behalf of the government. I'm not going to name anybody, but, like, some of them work at the New York Times. If you—once you realize what the point of the exercise is, it's crazy. And I hope you'll assess all the fact-checking and the skepticism on UAPs through this lens. The main thing they want you to believe is the supernatural is not real. Then you have to ask yourself, like, why? That's interesting. It is so interesting. Why is that important to you? Why do you care if I think the supernatural is real? Like, why is that—first of all, why is it—how dare you, as my government, try to get involved in my spiritual beliefs?

1:15:41 That's totally not your area. Yeah. Yeah. Get the f*** out of there. Okay. A. But B, why has that been so important for 80 years for you to convince me the supernatural is not real? Hmm. Hmm. Why has it been—why has that happened? I mean, I think that the real struggles are— Stop it. I think that this is really interesting thought process he's going through here. Why is it that the government's so fascinated with convincing us that the spiritual realm isn't here? Hmm. I think that's a question that we're going to have to solve in this channel as we continue to investigate this. And I think the answer has something to do with sin. It's personal. Because if they can convince the rest of the community that there is no spiritual since the 1700s, then they can convince there is no God, and they are free to do what they want without any moral consequence.

1:16:37 Because the moral consequence, supposedly, isn't there anymore, which it is. Just the ramifications don't exist anymore because it gets rid of parts of our constitution. It gets rid of parts of our legal system. It gets rid of the idea that there is a morale, and they can do what they want. Hmm. Hmm. Very interesting. Hmm. Oh, I lost my place. I hope this is the right clip. I mean, I think that the real struggles are unseen. That is absolutely a part of Christian theology. I didn't fully appreciate it at all. It's a part of every theology. In fact, it is theology. That is theology. The belief that the real struggles are in the spiritual realm. Did we already touch this? See, I've heard this so many times in editing. I'm not exactly sure if we've touched this already.

1:17:35 So tell me in the chat if we've touched this already. Because I clicked on the wrong image, and now I'm completely out of sync here. I'm going to continue playing it and try to find my place. That has been a constant belief. Since the beginning... Since the beginning of history, recorded history, everybody has thought that, except us in the West, since 1945. I can't say that enough. So once you get perspective on this question, you're like, okay, that may sound crazy to someone who thinks buying shit on Amazon is the meaning of life, but to every other person in the world, we may disagree about what the truth is. I'm sure we will. But why would the Air Force be planting disinformation in researchers' homes? Well, that was back then. I'd be hard-pressed to see them do that today. All right. I'm going to talk about this before we get into it, because I went off on a rabbit trail talking about this and lost my place.

1:18:30 So this is Tim. We're going to go back to Tim and talk about what he has to say about the government working in disinformation, because it's very interesting to see that not only has the government tried to convince us that there is no spiritual realm, but it's also trying to convince us that there is no spiritual realm. It's trying to convince us that this whole UFO thing isn't real and maybe has something to do with the spiritual realm. Of course, as we know, this is going to come out here now. But I thought it was important. At first, I didn't want to include this clip because it's just talking about how the government's putting out disinformation. But it's good to know, especially since that the disinformation is primarily focused on erasing the spiritual realm. And this is the old way of doing things that is being pushed out, even by the demonic entities right now. It's in the new... The way of doing things is the new spirits that are coming in.

1:19:22 Spirits from long ways away. This is the new narrative, the lie that's happening. But this was the old. Watch. Why would they be... Why would the Air Force be planting disinformation in researchers' homes? Well, that was back then. I'd be hard-pressed to see them do that today. But that's it. They went out of control. They were basically not aligned with the Constitution. And they did. They did that because... Now, they don't say it in the book. The book just talks about the facts. But it's the same thing, again, that's happening today. They don't want the public to know that there really is a crash retrieval program and that we are monitoring UAP in our airspace and waterspace. And we can't control their actions. And we don't fully understand their intentions.

1:20:12 Think about this for a second. This is the rear admiral talking about... How there is a reverse engineering program. How many official Pentagon people are going to come out and say this before it's actually... The news starts picking this up and going, Okay, this isn't kooky anymore. This is very interesting. And I hear George Jordan in the back of my head. Not that he's actually talking to me. Obviously not. But he said this over and over again to me while we were in... Personally. He says, Nothing has been seen yet to prove this. We have no facts about this yet. And he's 100% right. There's no facts to prove. We haven't seen any technology physically. We haven't seen any reverse engineering programs. But David Grutch comes out and says it. Says there's paperwork on it. This guy comes out and says it.

1:21:02 There's paperwork on it. And these are all people in our lifetime. It's very interesting. Because I want to reiterate that I'm not opposed to something like this happening. It's not going to affect my spiritual understanding. Because just as the plagues, the first few plagues can be replicated by Satan, he can replicate physical matter too, just not living. Let's continue. And that's a dangerous thing to leak to the public. And so they are deliberately falsifying it and exploiting people, making them appear as wackos, thus creating a stigma behind the whole scene, which has prevented serious scientific study. And that's why I've joined Galileo, Americans for Safe Aerospace, and the SOUL Foundation to advance the scientific study of the phenomenon. Interesting. Interesting. So... So the disinformation is just to discredit whoever is getting into the subject.

1:21:55 That's right. And it's happening overtly today. That office is doing it. And you see it all around the media now. There's just a lot of... There are individuals who I will not name who I believe are getting paid. But every day they get out online, and they're well-known in this UAP community. And they're... Their number one job is to discredit these national authorities, these people like Lou Elizondo, who was with the task force, the UAP task force. I've met and trust and know, and he is 100% who he says he is, and what he says he's seen and knows, I have total confidence in. People like him, he's getting... He's an active target of people discrediting him and others, too.

1:22:46 Interesting. Interesting is right. And so I think it's fascinating that we're seeing that this happened right now, and that... Imagine that. I never thought I'd be on the internet telling you the government's lying to you. The government's lying to you, but I think it's important to know that... Just as Tucker Carlson is going to say, or has said on that podcast, I'm not sure if I included this clip, he's like, Look, I was on the other side of this whole political thing, believing that politicians... We're going to solve everything. That I had bought and sold the idea that it wasn't spiritual, that was the big thing that we're fighting against, but it was actually physical, and that we had to cure this thing physically. It's going to be a rude awakening someday when people realize that it really is spiritual, and I think we're coming upon those days rapidly. Actually, some quotes come to my head, but I'm going to refrain from that, because I don't have that in my script, and we've got a lot to cover still.

1:23:47 We're at 10. Twenty-six on the hour, Eastern Time, and we're going to continue listening to what has been said here. Watch this. Why? Why is that? And, of course, I can't answer the question, but my gut-level response is, well, because it is real. Whatever they're telling you is not real, and if they're punishing you for saying something you know for a fact it's not real, you're not allowed to say that. Oh, not because it's... They don't have no problem with me lying, because they lie. They lie for a living. So, lying... ...brings no sanction. You can lie all you want. What you can't do is tell the truth. That is a fact. So, once you know that, you can sort of reverse-engineer their lies and know with some certainty that whatever they're telling you is not true, is in fact true. That's exactly the truth. It's exactly the truth. But then you have to ask motive. Like, it's not a profit motive.

1:24:38 Like, does it make them rich to deny that there's supernatural forces? No. What is that? And I don't know the answer. But the obvious answer is, well, because they sort of know they're working for something, supernatural forces, actually. And I think that's probably true. Wow. They. The U.S. government is millions of people. Is there a specific reason or a handful of reasons, or is this a hunch? Did you believe that they're working with the supernatural realm? Good question. Or have a relationship? Well, I can't prove that. I mean, I'm suggesting that. I'm not saying it because I can't prove it, but I'm suggesting it. And if you're asking whether... I believe that the answer is yes. Wow. But I think... I believe that for two reasons. One, because I've told that directly by a couple of people who I think seem eligible.

1:25:30 And I attach some weight to that, though not conclusive weight. I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't there. Maybe they're super sophisticated liars. Maybe they're telling me the same lie for some reason. Maybe it's all part of a disinformation campaign. All the geniuses on the internet, the really smart kids seem to think, oh, you're falling for the disinformation campaign. Thanks, son. I know. A lot about disinformation campaigns. I don't know. Okay. But it's like one of my few areas of expertise, having participated in many unknowingly. So either they're totally lying or they're telling the truth. But the other reason that I think that is for the reason just stated, which is that their main goal... When I hear a bunch of lying, first, I want to recognize that it's lying. It's untrue. Like, I know that's untrue. Then I want to ask, what's the nature of the lie? What exactly are they trying to get me to believe or not believe?

1:26:25 That's really important. What is it? Like, what's so important to them that they're going to all this effort, spending all this money, getting all these journalists to repeat, knowingly or not, repeat their lies? Like, why? Why are they doing that? It takes time to do that. It's a big effort to lie. It's much harder to lie than tell the truth. So why bother? And then the third question you have to ask is, like, so, like, what is that? What does that mean? And then, of course, I don't know the answers, but it's very suggestive. One thing I do know, and if you look at it, if you look at, like, the New York Times or Popular Mechanics or any of the... I say Popular Mechanics. I may be getting that wrong. I think it's Popular Mechanics. But there are a bunch of different stories that have run over time debunking certain claims about UAPs, UFOs. And some of them are quite vehement and sophisticated and mean, too. People who believe in this stuff aren't just wrong.

1:27:17 They're crazy. They're conspiracy theorists. They're, like, pedophiles, kind of, in a way. I mean, that's kind of the... Like, why would you attack someone for that? So we can see that there is definitely a disinformation campaign. But I think that the bigger picture here is that there is a spiritual battle. And I think Tucker's finally seeing that. That is going on right now. And the government is working with these things, apparently, because that's what a lot of people are saying. And leaks don't stay. People... People say, well, if that was true... They say this about many conspiracy theories. Well, if this was true, we would hear it because leaks would come out and there'd be too many people involved to keep it secret. Okay. Well, yeah. And if there is something going on right now, behind the scenes, and spirits are talking to your government leaders, then these are the leaks, ladies and gentlemen.

1:28:13 These are the ones. Christina Bourne, thank you so much for the super chat. She says, like. Hit that like button because I'm convinced that the more times you hit that like button, the more people come into the live stream. And I've seen it. It happens. And make sure you hit that subscribe button, too, because you can't comment on these things, at least on the live stream, unless you are a subscriber. And also, you're going to want to be notified of things that happen here. Patreon, also patreon.com slash strange normal. It's how this whole thing continues. And I will continue doing this stuff as long as I have supporters to support me doing it. And so, let's get into our last clip here. We have a few things that are going on. I'm just reading the chat, seeing if there's anything happening.

1:29:01 And let's talk about reformation and knowing the future. This is fascinating because Tucker starts saying, I'm seeing the pendulum swing. He doesn't say it in so many words, but that's the word we use on this channel. Because things have been pushing hard, hard, hard to one side where it's going anti-Christian, anti-Christian, pushed out. And all of a sudden, the pendulum is going to get too far, and it's going to start being pushed back. And we're seeing the beginning of that right now, and it's swinging hard. And it's going to plow through a lot of things. And that's when we're going to have to really get really concerned as Christians. I'm going to be very frank here. It's going to be great. It's going to look good on the outside. But when the pendulum starts pushing hard and gets some real teeth, boy, you better get out of the way. Because the Christians are the ones... They're the ones that you've got to worry about. Let me show you why.

1:29:53 Here we go. It seems like, to me, and I love this conversation, by the way, but it seems like, to me, that we're approaching the final division. I mean, it seems like the race shit has kind of cooled off a little bit, and the gender stuff has cooled off. All the things, the defund the police, BLM, Antifa, the war. It's all seems to be starting to die down a little bit, and what I'm seeing, and maybe this is just because I'm that interested in it, is you're seeing a massive wave of Christianity coming. And you're also seeing a massive wave of Satanism. And it seems like we're approaching the final division. You're seeing pedophiles on the rise. There's sex trafficking, human trafficking.

1:30:55 I mean, the U.S. is the number one consumer of kiddie porn on the planet, and you just see this good and evil just going farther and farther apart. And it's becoming, at least from my point of view, it's becoming very rare. I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more vehemently, and I don't have too many... I don't have great insights into things or prophetic feelings. You know, I'm very conventional. But the one thing that I really felt strongly a couple of years ago was really strongly, I felt it overwhelmingly, like from outside me, was that there's some form of religious revival coming. I felt that really strongly. And I'm an extremely secular person. Obviously, I say every other word. I'm sorry that I do that. I shouldn't. I definitely grew up that way. So, like, for me to have that insight, but like, wow, overwhelming. And I said it to a couple of friends of mine who were very secular.

1:31:57 They're like, what? But I felt it. And that has turned out, I think, to be true. And I have no idea where it's going. And I get a lot of people coming to my barn, like, every day, literally every day, and leaving me big stacks and stuff on the end times. And I think history ends. I think we all sort of sense history ends. But it's also really clear that we don't know when it ends. So I kind of resent that a little bit because it's like, what are you, God? Like, you know the future? We don't know the future. We can't know. We're not going to know the future. Okay? That's very clear. Unfortunately, it's true that we will know the future. We can know the future. The Bible tells us the future if we understand it correctly. And the only way to understand the future in Revelation and Daniel and all the prophets is to study the Bible because the Bible interprets itself.

1:32:48 And what we see is... This whole thing is predicted. Tucker, if you're watching this, it's Revelation 16. You see that these spirits, UFOs, go out to the kings and to the whole world to prepare the battle for that great day of God Almighty. We're weaponizing space right now to shoot nukes at the Lord. That's what's happening right now. It sounds so bizarre to even say that. But that's what the Bible says, and that's what we see happening. We will see more and more of this. It's happening right now. Not only will we destroy us, and the Bible says that God's coming to destroy them who destroy the world. I don't think it's just because we've not recycled. I think it's absolutely because we're literally destroying the world and making it uninhabitable with these crazy, crazy wars and weapons and all kinds of mass destruction that's going to happen in the very near future.

1:33:45 So, can we know the future? We do. And we know that there's only one winner out of this whole thing. There's the ones that hate humanity and that want to destroy it, that is anti-human, and there's one that is for humanity and has come down to seek out the lost, to find us. Friends, if that is you, and I hope it is, pray for Tucker. Pray for this channel. Pray for everything that is about to happen, because it is a huge battle that's about to take place, and we are on the cusp of something huge. And if you want to talk more about this, join me on Patreon, patreon.com slash strangenormal. We talk about this every day in our Discord. And my name is Brad, and this has been Pure Strangeness and Absolute Normalcy, Strange Normal.

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