0:00 10 minutes away from the second this month Senate hearing. Actually, I think we had a House hearing the first time. The Senate hearing is now going to be happening the following week, which is this week. So before we had it on the 13th, now we're having it on the 19th. It's a whole different set, a whole different ballgame, but they're having another hearing about this. It's probably going to be some similar stuff, but maybe they've learned from the previous one. Why am I dressed up? Well, I had a presentation downtown and I ran down here to get this done so you could have the latest information on this. I'm going to pop over to the screen so you can see I'm going to be streaming this stuff from the actual official website, the United States Senate Committee Hearing Channels on the Armed Services website. I believe it is, yeah, armedservices.senate.gov if you want to follow along without my commentary, but I won't talk very much, especially while it's going on. But it will be airing here at 4.30 p.m. Eastern, which is in the next five minutes. Sometimes they run late because they're doing stuff before this, obviously, and that might run a little bit behind. So I'm here to start it when it happens. They are already streaming, so that's a good sign, but we're kind of just waiting for that to begin, and then I'll pop in and throw it on. Of course, we're probably going to hear them first. We're probably going to hear them start the microphones and stuff. That's what happened last time. This isn't the first time this has happened. Why is this significant? Well, it's significant because the government, is saying, you know what, we really don't care what's out there. We care about our money and where the taxes are going, and since we are Senate, we are the House, we have to actually look and see how the government's doing stuff, and if it's all going to a black project somewhere, then we do need to figure that out. And this isn't conspiracy. This isn't some weird Alex Jones website. This is actually legitimate stuff from your government right now that's happening. So I think it's interesting to follow along and see where that goes.
2:00 This is going. Whether or not you believe it's legitimate or not, something bizarre is happening here, and that's what we cover on this channel, Strange Normal. Let me see if I'm actually getting out to the community here. I'm going to pull over the analytics so I can look at that. Is anybody listening to me? Am I just broadcasting out to nowhere land, never never land? Peter Pan, are you out there? Let's see what the chat's doing tonight. We got a few listeners. All right. Welcome. As I watch and see if this thing comes up, I'm going to minimize a few things on my screen so I can actually already see the chat rolling. You guys are on it. You must be anticipating this as much as I was. I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to do this tonight because I had a presentation downtown, which is why I'm dressed up to do for real estate, and they wanted me to talk about YouTube. So I'm all dressed up. I did the full presentation, and now I'm back here. Unfortunately, we were able to do both things today, and you guys are very, very lucky. This is going to be fun to kind of sit back and watch this with you guys in the chat. You guys were hilarious last time, and see exactly what is going down here with this strange stuff that is always happening. It's 4.27 p.m. Eastern time, and we are anticipating this is going to start on time at 4.30, and we're not sure. Again, if you're just joining us, we're going to be able to do this. This is the website we are going to be streaming from. We're going to be restreaming it out to you guys to provide a little bit of commentary and to keep you updated because this is the one UFO, UAP YouTube channel that knows what's really going on in society. We really do because we have dug into the books, and we understand what has been said about this stuff better than anybody else has. So any other channel that does this from a biblical perspective that is just devoted to doing this, and so we're covering it, and we're covering every aspect of it, and we're live streaming every single time the government talks about it and really digging deep in this because this is going to be the big deal.
4:16 You know, I had someone just the other day come up to me and tell me, oh, you shouldn't be doing this nonsense. You should be focusing on the Pope. What's the Pope doing out here? Honestly, folks, there's three things that we should be focusing on. We should be focusing on the Bible. We should be focusing on the Bible. We should be focusing on the Bible. We should be focusing on God, obviously, but there's major deceptions running down the line, and those three things that are going to be coming down the line are, number one, the papacy is coming out, and they're going to try to gather all the religions together. Number two, apostate Protestantism is going to join hands with them, and with them, spiritualism. So if we talk about the papacy, which every church that is Protestant and is an apostate Protestant is talking about the papacy. Or should be. Then we also should be talking about the spiritualism that's happening right now under our noses. And I'm being very, very, very adamant about that, because this is absolutely insane that I've had, in the last, only in the last couple weeks, a few people actually step up and say, you shouldn't be talking about this stuff. Are you kidding me? If you talk about, if you talk about the Pope, and you warn others about the dangers that are coming upon this world, you should be talking about the spiritualism as well. Fear God and give glory to him.
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7:34 It's all laid out there. We talk about all kinds of stuff, especially the About section. It tells you who I am, why I'm doing this, what's my background, why do I have any say in this stuff, and what our mission is. And so, if that's something that you're concerned about, check it out. Look at us. Check everything out you got. And come General Conference, let's see, where are we at? Two minutes late so far and I'm still yakking. Come on. Let's do this. They're always late. They're still waiting. I'm going to go ahead and refresh the page just to be sure. No, nothing yet. Okay. Still waiting for them. So, anyway, come General Conference, which is this next year. We're going to have some funny stuff to hand out to you guys. I hope to be there if everything pans out. If it doesn't pan out, well, I'm not going to be there because it's expensive. And I might just get a ride, a hotel ride down there. Because, you know, buying a hotel out there is $4,000 for the whole thing. But I might be able to stay with somebody. And if I do, I want to get some t-shirts out. They're going to be pretty funny. I've thought about creating a t-shirt that has the symbolism of Daniel 2 statue on it. But instead of the bearded man, put a golden alien head on it and say, we know something about prophecy, you don't. And it's tongue in cheek. But the thing is, nobody really knows what the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head of the head Daniel 2 statue looks like number won. And they were worshiping. They were worshiping demons back then that said they were from other planets. That's according to spiritual prophecy, have that quote, if you want to see it. It's very interesting. And so who knows what it looked like? But I think it'd be really funny to really catch peoples attention and go, Wait, what? Tell me more. Scan that QR code on my shirt. That would be a be funny.
9:40 I'm going to hand those shirts out for free well if that's if that's one that wins there might be some other ideas as well oh we're starting this hearing will come to order I'd like to first thank our witness Dr. John Kozlowski for Kozlowski for testifying he is our newly appointed director of the all-domain anomaly resolution officer arrow an office congress established in the fiscal year 2022 NDAA to investigate this very serious problem of unidentified anomalous phenomenon or UAP Dr. Kozlowski comes to arrow from the research directorate of the national security agency where he worked in areas of optics research and crypto mathematics he previously served at the DOD special communications enterprise office we look forward to regular engagements between you and the committee when unidentified anomalous phenomenon enter our airspace we need to know about it we need to identify it but in order to do that we need to reduce the number of anomalous phenomena that are present in the airspace we need to reduce the number of anomalous phenomena that are present in the airspace we need to reduce the number of anomalous phenomena that are present in the airspace we need to reduce the stigma and credibility challenges associated with these events our service members scientists foreign partners and the general public need to know that their reporting research and analysis will be taken seriously and acted on in good faith in the spirit of transparency arrow recently released a consolidated annual report just a few months after releasing the first volume of the historical record report in march of this year these public documents help highlight the challenges still facing this office including the lack of timely and actionable sensor data the need to resist the need to revisit places cases placed in the active archive and the importance of improving reporting sources both in the interagency and internationally in this hearing i want to probe a series of specific issues first as incidents at langley and elsewhere have demonstrated unmanned aerial systems or uas continue to pose significant threats to our national security in addition to safety of flight issues these uas create for our own pilots and aircrew the uas uas present clear and undeniable counter-intelligence concerns around some of the most sensitive airspace while standard uas are not part of arrow's mission your work on sensors at military installations across the country will be critical to making sure that we have the domain awareness necessary to accurately identify and track and track the objects i expect your office to also play close attention to any anomalous characteristics that these systems could present in the future second i look forward to your presentation of three case studies demonstrating cases that arrow has resolved including the go fast which is one of the most prominent uap cases however i believe it is important to acknowledge ongoing public interest in the nimitz incident the gimbal video and other prominent uap cases and for arrow to share what it can about those cases as well it's also important that arrows speak to unresolved cases and what types of anomalous activity have merited further analysis and while i know arrow has gone through a period of transition over the past year it is important to share these disclosures both resolved and unresolved cases with the public even when a senate hearing is not scheduled lastly while some have been hesitant to come forward to arrow in the past i hope that potential individuals with first-hand information on these cases will be able to share their experiences with the public and knowledge of unreported programs view your arch your arrival in this position as an opportunity for a new start arrow has was created by congress to do this work congress waived non-disclosure agreements for those who disclose information to arrow and gave arrow the authority to go and turn over every rock i hope those with information to share use this opportunity so that we as your senators who represent you can do our jobs i look forward to hearing more on these issues from dr kozlowski and for members to start a dialogue on this important topic with that i would like to turn to senator ernst for her opening statement thank you madam chair and thank you dr kozlowski our hearing today is about identifying uaps and understanding their potential implications which could range from technological advancements to potential threats to our national security are these phenomena tied to foreign adversaries such as china or russia leveraging advanced technologies in order to prevent the spread of the virus and to prevent the spread of the virus beyond our current capabilities or do they represent unknown scientific phenomena that challenge our current understanding we must answer these critical questions to ensure that our national security is not compromised it is vital that all agencies work in tandem to 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14:28 identify patterns and develop robust analytical frameworks our ability to detect track and respond to uaps requires the latest technology and the latest technology and the latest technology to make the best use of the technology and full cooperation from all government branches thanks very much dr kozlowski for your attention to this matter and i look forward to the valuable insights that you and arrow can provide to our committee and i yield back thank you dr kazasi please make your opening statement thank you chairwoman gillibrand ranking member ernst and distinguished members of the subcommittee it is a pleasure to be here on behalf of the department of defense as the new director of the all-domain anomaly resolution office i appreciate the opportunity to provide a status update on arrow's work and respond to your questions about unidentified anomalous phenomenon or uap on behalf of the department and the entire aero team i want to say how grateful we are to congress for its continued support unidentified objects in any domain pose potential threats to u.s safety and security reports of uap activity particularly near national security sites must be treated seriously and investigated with scientific rigor by the u.s government by way of introduction i'm john kozlowski i'm a researcher at my core with an academic background in mathematics physics and engineering i've spent most of my career at the national security agency leading advanced research in the areas of optics computing and crypto mathematics by nature i am drawn to tough scientific problems which is what brought me to aero and the uap mission since i arrived at aero in august i've been impressed by the breadth and depth of my team's experience and the framework they've established to rigorously analyze uap reports aero has taken meaningful steps to improve data collection and retention bolster sensor development effectively triage uap reports and reduce the stigma of reporting uap events last year aero worked with the dod's joint staff to issue guidance to defense personnel worldwide on how to report uap observations and is working with the military services regarding implementation arrow has also launched a public website that features uap imagery case resolutions material analysis archival records and more these are only a few examples of arrow's recent progress and we're just getting started to date arrow has over 1600 uap reports in its holdings from across the u.s government i'll share a slide in just a few minutes with updated uap analytic trends you'll see that many reports resolve the commonplace objects like birds balloons and unmanned systems while others lack sufficient data for comprehensive analysis although only a small percentage of reports received by the uap commission and the u.s government have been able to solve the commonplace problems the uap commission has been able to solve the commonplace problems and the uap commission has by Aero are potentially anomalous, these are the cases that require significant time, resources, and a focused scientific inquiry by Aero and its network of partners.
17:20 It is important to underscore that, to date, Aero has not discovered any verifiable evidence of extraterrestrial beings, activity, or technology. To accomplish Aero's national security mission, I have set three priorities for the office – building strong partnerships, promoting transparency, and scaling up the work of the office. Aero cannot do its work alone. Building partnerships across government, academia, industry, and with the public is essential to the success of the office. Strong cooperation with the military services is particularly important. We rely on their support to implement our reporting guidance and to amplify the message that there should be zero stigma associated with UAP reporting. We also rely on partnerships with Aero. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, NASA, all of which play a role in the whole-of-government effort to address UAP. Recognizing the talent and expertise that reside outside of the government, Aero will continue to explore new ways to partner with the academic and scientific communities to investigate its most complex UAP cases.
18:28 A related priority for Aero is transparency. Our ability to collaborate with key partners, including the Department of Defense and the UAP partners, including the scientific community and the public, relies on information sharing to include downgrading and declassifying UAP-related information. In some cases, it may be unclear to the public why the DoD classified a piece of information in the first place. Why are photos of seemingly benign objects, such as balloons, classified? It's often the case that an object or phenomenon isn't itself a security concern, but the location, source, or method used to capture it is still sensitive. Many cases are difficult to quickly release to the public, but are reported to the appropriate committees in Congress that are authorized by law or House and Senate leadership to receive the information. It is important to note that Aero does not unilaterally declassify information. Instead, we work with the originator of a classified record to ensure that declassifying that record does not inadvertently harm national security. This can take time. Nonetheless, the Department is committed to declassifying and publicly sharing UAP-related information, while protecting sensitive sources and methods.
19:37 I'll be sharing some newly declassified imagery in just a few minutes. Aero is also working closely with the National Archives and Records Administration to make UAP-related documents publicly available in a digitized collection. Meanwhile, Aero continues to review the U.S. historical record relating to UAP. We welcome any former or current government, civilian, contractor, or military service member with information on UAP. We will continue to work with relevant information to reach out to us at www.aero.mil. My final priority is scaling up Aero's work to match its mission. Aero needs to bolster the quantity, quality, and diversity of data that it acquires and examines. This means tapping into existing data sources within the interagency while deploying Aero's own organic sensor capabilities.
20:27 To the extent that UAP results from the domain awareness gaps, more and better data will help us fill those gaps. In closing, Aero is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity. We will not foreclose on any explanation for UAP prematurely. We will continue to follow the science and data wherever they lead. We will continue to have an open and frank dialogue with Congress in settings like these and in classified briefings. We will continue to keep you fully and currently informed of all UAP information, active or historical. And finally, we will share as much information as possible. Thank you. And we're working to resolve that bias in 2025 or reduce that bias through broader engagements with the DOD as well as the IC and the rest of the government, also by incorporating broader sensors into our data and through a public reporting mechanism that we hope to have live in mid-2025. On the left side, it shows the altitudes, and we'll see it's a bit cut off.
22:06 We'll see that most of the reporting occurs between 15,000 and 25,000 feet. That happens to be where most of our sensors are. And the reporting above and below that is also often coming from those same platforms. In the center, we'll see that the resolved cases have the vast majority being balloons and UAS. We're seeing a great increase in satellites recently, particularly with the launch of mega-satellite constellations such as Starlink, where the satellites are catching what is called satellite flares or glint off the sun. And on the rightmost, we'll see the morphology or the shapes that have been reported. The majority have been lights or orbs. We think that there's going to be an increase in the lights with the mega-constellations, but our most interesting cases, some of which I'll discuss later, are actually the shapes such as the triangles or the cylinders.
23:09 And at the bottom, we'll see the geographic bias that I mentioned before, where most of the reports historically had been near the government sites. This bias has been reduced recently by reporting from the FAA. We now get weekly reports from them, and great thank you to our aviators for making those reports. It helps our analysis quite a bit. Okay, a case that we thought would be a transmedium case, as it was reported, is well-known on the outside, known as the Puerto Rico case, was data collected in 2013 when a Customs and Border Patrol aircraft observed an object. It was a transmedium. It was a transmedium. It was a transmedium. It was a transmedium. It was a transmedium flying near an airport in Puerto Rico. The green line in this diagram is the track that the airplane was taking, and those many crossed lines are the directions that the camera was facing at the time that the airplane was flying around the airport, and we'll watch the video in just a moment.
24:04 The orange arrow in the center is where we assess that the UAP was actually flying, and transmedium means that it goes from one domain into another. In this case, it looks like it goes from the air into the air. We assess that it was actually flying over the airport the entire time, and this video was taken with infrared, and what appears to be the transmedium part where it goes into the water is actually where the temperature of the water is equal to the temperature of the object, and the camera can no longer distinguish between the two. It's not that the object actually goes into the water. And so we assess that the... The object, likely a pair of balloons or sky lanterns, was floating at about seven knots over the airport and descending to about 200 meters, and this video will be released, and our report will be released later this year. The go fast captured the public attention and congressional attention when it was made public in 2017. Looks like an object flying very fast over the water, very close to the water, through a very careful landing. We do a very careful geospatial intelligence analysis using trigonometry.
25:21 We assess with high confidence that the object is not actually close to the water, but is rather closer to 13,000 feet. Diagram here shows as the platform is flying and capturing the object, if it is closer to the platform at a higher altitude, a trick of the eye called parallax makes it look like the object is moving much faster. And so we've written a detailed paper on parallax. Release that on our website so that the public can literally check our math on this analysis. An interesting case, which I don't believe the public is familiar with, is captured in 2018 from a UAV flying in the Mediterranean, watching Mount Etna as it was erupting, and it appears that that object is flying through the plume of superheated gas and ash. This was a rather difficult case to resolve. We had to pull in support from a number of IC and S&T partners, and even reach out to the public. We also reached out to a volcanologist. And through very detailed 3D modeling and pixel-by-pixel analysis of the object as it's traversing across the clouds, they assessed that the object was actually 170 meters away from the plume and not flying through it.
26:35 And to be clear, Arrow does not believe every object is a bird, a balloon, or a UAV. We do have some very anomalous objects. It's just the nature of resolution. We can only resolve things that we understand. So we're now working on additional products. Or we can inform the public, Congress, and others of the objects as we're studying them, rather than once we've resolved them. With that, I'll take your questions. Thank you, Dr. Kozlowski. I appreciate your testimony. It's been widely reported that individuals claiming first-tail knowledge of unreported UAP programs have been reluctant to engage with Arrow. What message do you have for those individuals, and how will you work to gain their trust? I would let them know that Congress has been very, very critical of this effort. And I'm not saying that they should. Congress has gone out of its way to create the organization AERO specifically to conduct these sorts of investigations and has uniquely empowered them to have access to all UAP related information, whether that's historic or current. And we take that responsibility and those authorities very seriously. And so we have been reaching out to a broader community, encouraging folks who had talked to AERO personnel in the past and maybe felt uncomfortable to come back to us. We've met with several of their interlocutors and a couple of firsthand witnesses, and we are making great progress. And those firsthand witnesses that we have talked to do feel comfortable coming back to us. And so we hope that more folks that do have information would go to www.aero.mil, fill out the form, send it to us so we can bring them in for interviews and add their information to our investigations. Thank you. I recently just read your report from March, your historic report, and I would encourage...
28:22 I would encourage anyone who's interested in this topic to read the report because when I was asked by a reporter about it, they said, well, it doesn't show any evidence of secret programs that have aliens. That's not how I read the report. What I read the report is the U.S. government took sightings extremely seriously over the last 75 years, put some of the greatest minds ever to analyze these cases because they assess them as some deeply unknown phenomena that may or may not cause threats, that may or may not be related to advocacy, that may or may not be related to police work, that may or may not be related to the jetzt. But it is certainly something that the U.S. government need to know about. What I read from this report is we resolved numbers of cases, but in almost every instance whether it was the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, the noughts, half the cases were unresolved. So I don't think this is an example of the government not taking these cases seriously. I think it is an example of our government spending 75 years taking these cases very seriously. Interestingly for the group that put together this report, they didn't have access to any of the record evidence. Some of our candidates are also not taking the case very seriously. access to any firsthand reporting. And so from my perspective, for whistleblowers and people who want to come in, please come in because the purpose of Arrow is so that the Senators can do our job to provide oversight, accountability, and transparency. We find it very concerning that our pilots, that our Navy officers, that people who have sightings of UAPs are denigrated, are somehow dismissed or disregarded. They need to be protected. This is a huge issue for national security because, number one, we don't have domain awareness, which is very problematic. Number two, we don't have domain superiority if we don't understand how different UAPs are flying, what technology they're using, what their mission is, what their purpose is. And at the base level, we have so many UAPs around our bases, around our military sites, around our nuclear sites, that it's deeply disturbing.
30:19 That adversaries, at a minimum, could be using these opportunities to spy, to glean intelligence, that will harm our long-term national security. So I'm grateful that you're taking the whistleblowers very seriously. I'm grateful that Arrow is trying its best to integrate the private sector, the public, into their work. Interestingly, in this hearing, we heard that the FAA is now working hand-in-glove, which is very helpful. We want the this public face accessibility to be put in place by 2025 so that people can upload their videos, their data, their reports. I've met with people who have followed this issue for decades and they have thousands of examples, thousands of pieces of data that ultimately I want uploaded into Arrow so you can cross-reference historic information with current information because this group at Arrow are the best scientists that we can find anywhere and they will do the work that's needed to be done. So I just want to thank you for that. And then, with my last 42 seconds, can you tell us about any of the cases that merit further analysis by your IC and science and technology partners? What is it that makes these cases anomalous? And a large number of reports are placed in the active archive because Arrow does not have enough information. What might prompt you to reopen a case like that and do you have any examples? Sure, I'll start with the active archive case. So that is just the place where we put cases where we don't have enough scientific information to resolve them at that time but we're always looking for opportunities to correlate them to new cases that come in as the new cases come in as well as enrich those cases with additional data. We do have one example that I'm aware of where we were able to correlate a number of observations of interesting lights in the sky and eventually we concluded that it was multiple people observing Starlink flares, just as an example. Three cases that merit analysis that we're working on right now, one we might be in the process of resolving but nonetheless is still interesting. The first one was brought to us by a law enforcement officer out west where he observed a large orange orb floating several hundred feet above the ground a couple miles away. He went to investigate what was going on with that orb and as he was pulling up to the location where he thought would be below the orb, about 40 to 60 meters away from some object, that was the area was well lit. He saw a blacker than black object. He said it was a large orange orb that was about the size of a Prius, four to six feet wide and as he got 40 to 60 meters away from the object it tilted up about 45 degrees and then it shot up vertically. He says 10 to 100 times faster than any drone he's ever seen before and it did that without making a sound as far as he could tell from inside of his vehicle and just as it left his field of view through his windshield then it emitted very bright red and blue lights that illuminated the area as brightly as if someone had set off fireworks just outside his vehicle or street flares. So that's anomalous because of the size of the vehicle with the great acceleration and when he came back to investigate that area he found no disturbance of the ground beneath it. So that's one interesting one. Another one comes to us from southeast US. There was a US facility where two cars of government contractors were leaving the facility around nine o'clock in the morning. They looked up in the sky and saw a large metallic cylinder about the size of a commercial airplane and it was stationary. They observed that there was a very bright white light behind or around the object. They saw it stationary for 15 to 20 seconds and then it disappeared. Obviously an object that large stationary unless it's a blimp is unusual but then disappearing we can't explain how that would happen. And then the last case was interesting. We had a aircraft that was flying parallel to another aircraft that was flying parallel to another aircraft that was flying parallel to another aircraft that was flying parallel to another aircraft and it was capturing imagery of it and a small looking object appeared to fly between the two of them much faster than them. Through very careful analysis we think that the object might have actually been further away than the object that it was videotaping but it requires very careful analysis to come to those conclusions and we don't have the metadata to support that yet. Senator Ernst. Yes thank you Madam Chair and Dr.
34:48 Nosky. You mentioned that you do work with the intelligence community. You're working with the FAA. Has AERO involved academia? Have you gone to universities? Do you have outside organizations that you are working with and if so can you walk us through some of that collaboration? Sure. Right now most of our collaborations that are veering towards academia are with your university affiliated institutions and we have a lot of things going on with research centers associated with universities or with FFRDCs. Our partnership with universities, I would say, is lacking right now. We have some one-off associations with university professors. However, that's our fault, and it's largely because of the need to declassify data. We need to give the professors something to work on before we can really engage them. So we're working significantly on a declassification effort. We've hired a number of declassification experts, and we're going to be trying to get cases like the ones that I just discussed here declassified so that we can engage with the universities on a regular basis and provide them the data. Talking to a scientist without data is going to be rather disappointing. So hopefully in 2025, we'll be increasing those efforts. Right. Well, I appreciate that. I think there's a huge pool of talent out there that you should tap into. Given the public's growing concern and interest in UAPs, how do you balance the need for the transparency, that our public is demanding, with the potential risks of revealing classified defense information?
36:26 Yeah, that's always a concern that's on the front of our minds. We want to make sure that we're deconflicting both on potential U.S. programs and what the IC might be tracking for adversarial programs as we're aggregating that information and preparing to share it. However, oftentimes, we can remove the discussion of the unidentified and anomalous activity from the sensitive that our partners are concerned with. And that's usually going to be the platforms that the information was collected with if it is truly anomalous. And so we have our partners working alongside in the declassification of that data. Very good. And then without having to explain the UAP, what do we need to begin really doing about them? What precautions can we take? What should we be doing about them? I think that removing the stigma, reducing the stigma is the first step. We need to make sure that we're having honest and transparent conversations about them, because if we're hesitant to discuss them, then it opens the opportunity for an adversary, as you had mentioned earlier, Senator Gillibrand, to come in and conduct some activity. So we need to do that, and we need to have more persistent monitoring and understand that whether it is a UAP or a counter UAS issue, that we need to have that complete and consistent discussion. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
37:51 Wonderful, thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Just a couple of follow-up questions. We didn't discuss in this setting the local, the most recent UAP or UAS encounter with bases like Langley. I know that the incursion by UASs that were publicly made available through the press that took over two weeks was fairly alarming to senators because there was a question about what technology they were using. There was a question about why it was so hard to detect. Can you speak to how Arrow will be integrated into the review of these kinds of cases and how you can be helpful to both the intelligence community and the Department of Defense in analyzing or being able to more quickly analyze what's knowable and what's not knowable? Because once you do identify it as a drone, for example, it then goes to the right department at DOD or the intelligence community to assess, deal with, or take down, as the incident might be. But talk to us a little bit about what role you can play for both the DOD and the IC community in these kinds of incursions that are happening when we don't know what tech is being used and we don't understand a flight pattern or we don't understand how they arrive and depart in the way they do.
39:18 Yeah. We are generally going to be supporting them through an advisory capacity. As an organization that naturally needs to conduct baseline experiments of the environment to see what normal looks like, whether it's balloons, birds, anomalous activity, or drones flying through an environment, we're going to gather a lot of data that will allow us to characterize an environment very well and then detect and follow those tracks, hopefully rather efficiently. There's also a lot of overlap in the type of sensors that are going to be used for the counter UAS mission and the UAP mission, whether that's active detection like radars or passive like cameras. And so as Arrow is trying to push the bounds on detectability for UAP, we're hopefully going to have best practices that we can also provide to the counter UAS. And potentially, we might have additional technologies that we can offer them to support. I'd like to just address a little bit of reporting and feedback. OK. Thank you. As you know, Arrow is required to develop a mechanism for the public to report UAP information.
40:26 Now that that mechanism for current and former military, civilian, and contractor personnel has been established, can you speak to Arrow's plans for a public reporting mechanism? And how did Arrow arrive at this approach? And were other options considered? And second, for pilots and operators who have reported a UAP, what feedback, if any, has Arrow provided to these individuals related to what Arrow is doing with their report and how the report has been done? How does such feedback or lack thereof impact the frequency of UAP reporting? The public reporting mechanism that we've decided to go with is going to look similar to the reporting mechanism that we currently have for historical events, where we're going to ask folks to go to our website, download a PDF form, put in the narrative for their account, and then email that to us with accompanying media. Usually, it'll probably be imagery. We went with that option because we thought, one, we could do it rather quickly. We could do it efficiently, make it very cost effective for the taxpayer. But also, we think we can gather all the data that we're going to need to conduct our analysis. And then we're going to have that feed into an automated processing system that will cross-correlate that against all the other public reported cases, as well as the US government cases.
41:40 We did consider a number of other reporting mechanisms to include automated online forms, as well as cell phone apps. And we all- ultimately decided that this would be the safest, cheapest, and easiest to maintain in the future, while protecting the private information of the individuals who are reporting. Regarding the feedback from the resolved reports, right now, we don't have a good feedback mechanism. It's fairly informal. We're working on building a case management system that Arrow will use at all classification levels. And hopefully, in that, we'll be able to, to provide feedback as the case is going through the resolution process. We have multiple phases. Then the folks who report that, whether it's a pilot at the classified level or someone potentially reporting through another mechanism, they'll get that automated feedback.
42:40 And then it is not determined at this point yet how much information we'll be able to include in that feedback where it is in the process. It'll depend on the classification. It'll depend on the resolution of the case. My final question is, is there anything that you need to tell the Senate that you need from us? Whether it's funding, whether it's support, whether it's legislation, is there any requests that Arrow has of us? Or anything else you need to brief us on for us to be able to do our jobs to protect our service members, as well as integrate public interest and public data and information into the future analysis efforts of Arrow? So first of all, I want to say thank you again. I think that the authorities that we have are remarkable. And I think that we are well resourced as an office. The only ask that I would have is that you continue to champion us, particularly with witnesses. Encourage them to come forward and report to us so that we can have a more fulsome investigation of the potential historic or ongoing legacy programs.
43:48 Thank you so much. Hearing adjourned. What? It's over? Wait a second here. That's it? OK, so that was just interrogation of, wow, it's done. I'm shocked. OK, so I expected that to go a lot longer. It's 5.08. That went for about half an hour. And all they did was interrogate the new director of Arrow. And the other guy, Kirkpatrick, got removed. And they wanted to make sure that the new guy knows that he's supposed to be doing stuff. And so he came at them with a, hey, this is nothing. We're just trying to figure stuff out. And look at all the stuff we resolved. It turns out to be nothing after all. And the Senate came back and said, actually, we have a lot more stuff that we want resolved.
44:40 What is going on here? And you need to be following up on this. And what's the solution to a lot of this stuff that we're trying to figure out? Interesting, that's everything that's going on right now. Because obviously, I believe what's going on here is that we have a lot of stuff. And I think that's what's going on here. I think that's what's going on here. I think that's what's going on here. I think that's what's going on here. I think that's what's going on here. Is that we have a lot of, just like Lou Elizondo said, we have a lot of Christians that are in the leadership positions, even above Lou Elizondo, that are saying, you know what? We don't want anything to do with this. We don't want to research it. We know what this is already. It's demonic. We have no plans for it. And so that leadership is also probably telling this guy, Kirkpatrick, and this new guy, saying, look, whatever you need to do, squash it. We don't want to have anything to do with researching this. Demonic activity, we don't have anything to do with talking about it.
45:29 So just anything that you're not able to solve, table it, put it on the table, and let's focus on the stuff we are able to solve and bring that to the forefront so that we can say, it's nothing, guys. It's nothing. Don't worry about it. And so all the other anomalous stuff that's happening, there is still anomalous stuff happening. I mean, it's obvious. We know this is going to happen because this is part of the way it's happened in the past, in the Hebrew days. It's how it's said to be going to happen by more than just one person. Roger Murnau talks about that. White talks about that. We have other ideas about this as well that point to the fact that all this is demonic activity. The bloodsow case. Anyway, my dogs are going crazy out there.
46:19 I don't know what's going on, but they just don't stop barking. Maybe it's the UAP. Oh. Yeah. Anyway, I just thought that was very interesting. Let's look and see what the chat's doing right now. It was a very short episode compared to the last one, which was more than two hours, I think. This one was a half hour and adjourned. Let's see here. Anything else that's going on? I'm looking at the chat. Well, this is going to be a short episode for you guys, and I'm thrilled to be out by five because I... Yeah. I can go pick up my wife from work now. I just want to tell you guys that this is still happening, and be on the lookout for another episode this week. This is like full week of episodes. We're going to be talking. I'm going to be calling Luna and looking into this further for telling her that she needs to reach out to Jordan about his research on this stuff since she is on the right path.
47:20 She just needs to be guided just a little bit further down the road. Why is there two of me? There we go. That way, she can understand this from the right perspective. I don't know if I'm going to get to that tonight. Maybe... No, it doesn't look like it because they're already closed. I'll get to it hopefully tomorrow, and we'll get that rolling. There's still lots happening, folks. Make sure you keep that browser dialed to StrangeNormal, youtube.com slash StrangeNormal, as well as... Looking for... Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. The latest stuff that happens on the website. Folks, again go to the main channel. Look at all the latest episodes. Watch Star Fall which is the main clip on the page, starfallmovie.com, and watch those episodes.
48:11 If you haven't caught up on some of those yet, that's going to catch you up on the rest of the stuff that we talk about here that might be confusing. I had a couple comments in the last video that said, Brad, you're not being very clear on this. What do you believe about this? Oh my goodness. If you don't know what I believe about it, you haven't seen Starfall. If you don't know what I believe about it, you haven't seen What Do Adventists Believe About This Issue, which is on the channel. It's one of the best episodes on there right now. You need to go watch that. You need to see all the quotes that I have laid out there. It's very interesting. That's all I have tonight. I hope you guys have a great night. See you later.