0:00 there's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are we can't explain uh how they moved their trajectory uh they did not have um an easily explainable pattern and so you know i think that we're uh people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is there are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet and keep in mind there are a virtually a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe i mean you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there but you've seen this and you've seen the data well no one knows but i think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else the mission of atip was quite simple it was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous uh aerial vehicles what i guess in the vernacular you call them ufos we call them uaps you know how this sounds it sounds nutty wacky look bill i'm not i'm not telling you that that it doesn't sound wacky what i'm telling you it's real the question is what is it what are its intentions what are its capabilities so this is a pentagon this is a do department of defense department of defense department of defense department of defense of defense official saying stop looking at ufos because they're demonic correct he's told me he said lou i want you to stop stop doing this i said okay sir i i certainly can but may ask why he says well we already know what it is he asked me point blank have you read your bible lately i said well sir i i i think i know what it says what where are you going with this and he said well then you would know that these things are are demonic and we should not be pursuing them the showings of the angels or the showings of the angels or the showings of the angels or the showings of the angels or the showings of god always showed up as orbs of light or things like that and today we see this as we see these as we call them ufos a pillar of fire at night and confuse russian troops it has some asking are ukrainians receiving heavenly help there's some miracle happened it looked like some spaceship like there was like an attack from the spaceship there was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky and like sparks were going were like spreading everywhere and then they on the morning they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed the defense intelligence agency has just released that program's 2010 report on ufos and among other things the document tells us the government can prove that ufo sightings have caused radiation burns paralysis and brain damage report also says that some people who saw ufos experience perceived they also saw ghosts and other spirits in all that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases whatever that means so in reality roger you were chosen by high-powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privileged group he says we are the elite we know the real truth about the master and his and they are not idiots looking beings they are gorgeous creatures did you ever witness necromancy or even something that would be popularly called channeling today took place the man shook his head like a little bit like this his eyes went glazed and he stayed at it for a half hour and the spirit spoke to him the voice changed the person completely he said if you think that's amazing wait he says until the spirits impersonate one of the departed people that you know personally like an uncle or a brother or sister or something that says that is unique the spirits are exceedingly proud of this we're now less than 16 minutes away barbara betholic whitley strever both of them before i came across one they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a
4:51 former live relative in other words they were encountering a dead relative on the craft these entities have the ability to appear in any form i was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade and um after my conversion if you will i felt it i was in the kitchen by myself and i felt it come up next to me and i said out loud i said god what are you doing here whatever this is that's been posing his grandma for the past seven years in jesus name get it away from me and never let it come back and it hasn't been back since what do you think that was just a hallucination or uh to be perfectly honest a demon yeah that's my understanding of ghosts any anything of that kind of story so i don't believe in ghosts i don't if you're an alien and you want to get baptized the pope is in favor of it pope francis reiterated his view monday that everyone has the right to be baptized and if Laden wants to get baptized he wins it's only one week or much more. First thing on the telephone is Pope Francis reiterated his view monday that everyone has the right to be baptized and if you want to go to 8th Merry Christmas or coming to halloween I Craigsbock. And apparently, that invite extends even to Martians. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens.
6:22 And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Okay. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California. Wow. And so both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress. And they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. Now, I saw the interview, or not the interview, but the little documentary you guys put together like that.
7:14 It's very eye-opening. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome. And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His name is . . . My last name is Tenziniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. My name is Tom DeLong. Most people know me.
8:10 I was the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part. That's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men in flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. We passed the 11 minute mark. Now T minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon.
9:15 And what you have is something that doesn't like man, period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction, experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence. Mark T minus 10 minutes and counting T minus 10. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first, the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy.
10:13 Then terrorists would be identified. And that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify. Third world country crazies, we now call them nations of concern. And the next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final card. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. And remember, Carl, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. Are there other religions, I'm curious, David, that you know of in all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea?
11:11 Yeah, I would say there are, you know, Hindus and Buddhists, you know, Tibetans or whatnot. The idea of... The idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that, I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs, particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition, they have UFOs. UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, too, is that UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years. Mormons as well, believe. In extraterrestrial life. And, I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern-day religions don't have a problem with life on other planets. And the idea that we're not alone in the universe is, you know, a pretty standard idea now.
12:06 You are saying to the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S. government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone. Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found, after interviewing myself in the subjects, and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant of who they were, they found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? It's something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence?
13:13 While I can't get into the specifics, because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations, I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So, let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence, of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we like to say in our language. Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI? I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
14:05 So help you God. Who in the government, either what agency, what sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. Mr. Grush, why is it that you refer to the phenomenon as non-human intelligence? Why deviate from the basis of extraterrestrial life? I think the phenomenon is very complex, and I like to leave an open mind analytically to specific origin. When you say specific origin, are you referring, can you elaborate on that for those that might not?
15:06 If it's a traditional extraterrestrial origin. Or something else that we don't quite understand from either a biological or astrophysics perspective. I just like to keep an open mind on what it could be. We're now passing the four minute, 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. And the priest told us, could I have a little bit more of your time? I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grain plain, the master's grain plain, for harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth, into its cause, just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said, it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain, he says, is going to take people, people are going to eat the stuff. Because he says, spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies.
16:17 That are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction. That are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction. That are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction. Unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. Unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. Welcome to another strange night. I appreciate you guys all tuning in tonight. I appreciate you guys all tuning in tonight. It's gonna be a really strange one. It's gonna be a really strange one. Please hit that like button and tell me who you are. Please hit that like button and tell me who you are. I would love to know where people are, in the chat. And location, generally. t-minus 3 minutes and counting. t-minus 3, we are go with all elements of the matrix. t-minus 3, we are go with all elements of the matrix. Is this thing working? Can anybody hear me?
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18:59 Trees to the universe we were never meant to solve, but who we are and why we are here are not among them. Ignition sequence 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Welcome to another episode of Strange Normal. My name is Brad. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what's going on.
20:15 And there's a lot going on right now. Because, man, have you even watched the news? There's so much strangeness from everything from AI, this is something happening in our lifetime, to UAP. That's the new code word for UFO. We talk about, and we're going to talk about, a lot more than just UFOs in this channel. But this is what kind of kicked this off. In fact, from the very beginning, if you're new to the channel, we've had a lot of influx of a lot of new people recently. So this whole channel began with a short documentary. Because I realized there was something strange happening between religion and this strange phenomenon that's happening in the sky and is becoming a more and more prevalent part of the news. And so I dug into it, and I said, people need to realize what's happening here.
21:02 And so instead of continuing on with a multi-series documentary series, which we are still going to do, I also decided we're going to do a weekly show to kind of keep updated on what's going on. But this isn't just for your benefit. This is for mine, too. Because as a regular Christian guy just going to church every week, I didn't know anything about the UFO concept. I mean, who looks into that stuff? It wasn't me. I didn't have much of an experience with that, at least not too much I understood. And so I thought, you know, let's dig into this a little bit. And let's have everyone follow along with the education that's happening as I learn about it. And as you learn about it, too. So there may be people on here that know a lot more than I do about it. That's why I try to bring in many guests as I can, not only that know more about the Bible, but also about the phenomenon and its lore behind it.
22:01 Because although we don't take that as authority, the Bible is the only authority, we do dig into it sometimes to try to put the pieces together and to store the stuff in the back of our heads. And that was a long-winded way of saying, let's get into the show. But before we do, let me introduce our guest and co-host tonight, Matthew. How are you tonight? I'm doing well, Bradley. Thank you for asking. I hope that you're doing well as well. I think so. Yeah, I think so. It's been quite a busy week, weekend. And I'll tell you all about it in post-show that we upload to Patreon. But I don't want to bore the audience too much. But if you're interested, we do talk quite a bit about our lives and things that probably don't matter or pertain to the show.
22:52 Anyways, I've got something interesting I wanted to pull up today because we talked a lot last week about some of the amazing things that were happening. And one of the things that we found some of the military officials were saying was that if they could say the stuff that was classified, that they wanted to, that they would be somber. That the rest of the world would be concerned if they knew the truth. We call that the narrative here because we don't believe it is the truth. There's some truth in the Bible, but we believe that there is a narrative given to a lot of officials. And so I think what's going on here is we need to dig a little further into the lore tonight. That's not everyone's cup of tea, but I do think it's fascinating. I'm going to play a short clip of Matthew, just of what we were looking at last week because I wanted to remind the audience of what that is.
24:00 But before we do, we have a couple news clips I just remembered. So that's going to be third clip on the agenda tonight. But first, let's look into the news this week of what happened. Here we go. Joining us now with more on all of this is Marek von Rennenkamp, defense analyst and contributor to The Hill. He also served as an analyst with the U.S. Department of State and worked at the Department of Defense. Marek, this new government website is up and uploading previously unreleased videos and documents. Is this a good first step when so many Americans believe the government's hiding something? Absolutely. And, you know, for decades the government has ridiculed UFO sightings. And the topic in general and has been evasive at best on the topic.
24:49 So, yes, this is absolutely a step in the right direction. And what I find very interesting when you go through these old documents is the parallels and the connections to what we are hearing and seeing today from the government. And that is something that hopefully through this process it's going to be easier to review these files. They were kind of a disorganized mess in the past. So they were declassified. But they were really kind of good. They were kind of spread out in different corners. And it was very hard to analyze and access these documents. So this is absolutely a significant step in the right direction. What do you mean about those parallels? What were you just referencing there? I'm so glad you asked, Elizabeth. So we heard very, very recently from the director of the government's UFO office. He's made some really intriguing comments about the most commonly reported UFO.
25:43 And that is a silver metallic orb. And the director of this office is on record. He says, publicly, he says, we have seen these all over the world making very interesting apparent maneuvers. And if you go through these old reports, and especially in the late 1940s and early 1950s, the number of reports from highly, highly credible individuals, from multiple witnesses very, very frequently reference silver metallic spheres, orbs, or round objects. And that is just stretching the surface. But the parallels are intriguing. And I really hope that this effort makes it easier for folks who have an interest in this and an analytic mind to go look back and see, again, the match between the current reporting and the previous reporting. Okay. So I think that's fascinating because let's reiterate what he just said. He said a significant person in the military. He didn't say exactly which one, but I'm going to dig into it and figure it out. But is saying that the most common UAP, UFO, whatever you want to call it, that they're seeing are these round objects, these round silver orb-type things that are floating through the sky.
27:03 And I think they had a picture of one. They didn't show it. The news is funny. They take this B-roll. They call it B-roll. And they show all kinds of other stuff. And they showed a bunch of ships up there, like they were these cylindrical ships that you typically see in Hollywood. That's not what they're saying. They're saying they're seeing in the daytime the stars of heaven, except they're not the stars in heaven. They're seeing what the Bible calls angels. So I think that's fascinating to me because how close? It's either this deception that these silver round things that are seen in the daytime or these glowing round things that are seen in the nighttime, I believe we're seeing something very similar between the two, day and night.
27:50 But don't take my word for it. I think we can get a little further deeper in here as time passes. But what do you think is going on here, Matthew? What's your take on it? News Nation seems to be the place for all of your UAP coverage. They're the ones who released the David Grush interview. And I think they understand that they've had this big scoop and that the other news agencies aren't necessarily picking up on it. So we've seen them kind of be the ones to revisit the topic again and again and to update their audience with more information about it. And I'm just wondering if there will be a shift to seeing some more of the news organizations starting to incorporate it, more regularly into their news rotation. You're right about the B-roll they were showing. The best footage that I think I've seen that was put out of a metallic ball was taken by a Reaper drone in the Middle East.
28:53 And we've featured it on this program. It's the one that you can see the drone is just kind of looking at a town. And then all of a sudden this, it is, it just looks like a metal orb, flies into the frame. And the camera just looks down and it's tracking and it's tracking. There's no visible means of propulsion, just like we've heard before. It's truly an anomalous thing. And this was in a controlled airspace as well. Shouldn't have been there. So the fact that that is the most commonly reported one, it's got to be setting up for something. We know that the spiritualists who are involved with the UFO phenomenon, they all report orbs of light. Again and again, they always say it came as an orb of light. It was beautiful. It came down in front of me, danced around.
29:43 Usually they come in pairs of three. So this orb shape, I mean, I think it's shaping up to be the, I guess the UAP UFO of choice that, you know, maybe when humanity at large kind of wakes up to the presence of these beings, those orbs will play some type of a pivotal role. What I can't imagine, but it's bound to be silly. Forgive me. I got a fly buzzing around my room, by the way. So anybody at home, if all of a sudden it goes dark, I saw someone in the chat ask if I had a bird. I don't have a bird. I have a fly. It is an unwelcome intruder in my room. And yeah, we'll see if I can get rid of them during one of these clips. But bear with me. That will be a distraction. It's been a long week, folks. So just say a prayer for me tonight. I'm going to show you that, everyone, that video.
30:41 I took some quick searching for it, and I found it. So here is that video that Matthew was talking about of the one in the Middle East. We showed it, I think, last week. But here we go again. Yeah. And there it is. And there it goes. And the camera tracks down to try to find it again. There it is floating around down there in the bottom left. Oh, it lost it. There it is again, bottom left. There it is. Bottom left, just above the inn, north. I'm sorry, bottom right, I think it is. My screen's flipped around. And that's it. And that's the one from the Reaper drone, isn't it? That's the one. That is the one. Let's continue. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I was just going to say, we'll see if we see more of them.
31:30 We'll see if we get more footage released now that there seems to be a real buzz about it. Who knows how many pieces of footage they have of that particular UAP. And this is the second half of that news clip. I'm going to continue into that, and then we're going to go into some interesting stuff into the program. All right, here we go. I'm curious, as somebody like yourself who worked at the Department of State and the Department of Defense, do you agree with the 63% of Americans who say there's more that's being kept secret from the rest of the public? Absolutely. 100%. I want to caveat that. I think the poll is actually about extraterrestrial life. So, you know, that's a squishy issue if you believe the whistleblower. No, no, there's two different parts of the poll. There's two different parts of the poll. 63% think Americans are—the government is keeping something secret from Americans.
32:22 And then another significant percentage thinks that these UFOs are related to extraterrestrial life. So I'll answer. Do I think that the government is hiding or concealing information about UFOs? 110%. Absolutely. We know that because they've only released, I think, four or five videos. And evidence and data is very hard to come by. And we know they have dozens, if not hundreds, of videos taken with the infrared cameras on fighter jets, satellite imagery. We know they're sitting on that stuff. We know that that information is classified. We know exactly how and under what authority. What authorities they're classifying. And so, absolutely, they're hiding stuff. They're not putting this stuff out. I want to just quickly make one comment on that.
33:10 Somewhat distressing, in the past, if you look back through history, the government has only—has been very, very cagey and has been only open and transparent about cases that have been solved. And what I just saw recently is that the government only plans to release information on cases that have been resolved. I'll pause it right there for a second because he just goes in and talks about how the government's hiding it and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, we get that. I mean, the government has a job to do, and they want to make sure they can control everything. And they're not in control of this. Big deal. I mean, I think that's one of the biggest—one of the things that we are on this channel just like, okay, yeah, that's how we're different than any other channel that talks about UFOs. We don't care if the government releases it. We already know what it is. Right. But I think what's fascinating about this, Matthew, is I think that— That survey they did, 63 percent of the government say the government is keeping something from Americans. That draws out intrigue.
34:10 And 53 think they are related to ET life. What do you think about that? Yeah, I thought the polls were the most interesting part of that too because you're seeing that type of a shift. And I've mentioned it before, but the older generation that's kind of passed away or is in the process of passing away, they were pretty adamant about, no, there's no alien life. That's silly. You're like, yeah, we have some sci-fi movies and that type of a thing, but it's just make-believe. It doesn't actually exist. But now you see more and more people—and it's become a rationalist's perspective too where you always hear the line, well, the universe is so big, we can't be alone. And it's ironic because, yeah, you're right. We're not alone. There's an entire species. There's an entire spiritual realm that people have just become oblivious to. We live in this age—they call it the information age, but we are starved, really, of information.
35:11 And we're inundated with misinformation too. So it's funny the way that works. When I read through Revelation and it's addressing the churches and I get to Laodicea, I just see the nakedness. Like you believe that you've increased in all those goods and you say, I want for nothing but you're blind and you're naked. And Jesus is imploring that particular church to buy that gold that's been tried in the fire, that true ancient wisdom that has been given to us since the world was created and we were introduced into it, the reality that God exists and his plan of salvation. So I think it's funny that now, just bringing it back to that poll, I bet if you polled people, the same group of people, about, hey, do you think that the Bible is accurate when it comes to a spiritual reality that we're blind to, the majority of people would probably say, ah, no, it's not that.
36:15 Or, you know, it's talking about something, but it's just not quite right. It's almost like I watch Joe Rogan and this guy, Duncan Trussell, who I'm really not a big fan of. They were trying to decipher revelation on air. And it was just a little embarrassing because they were just like, man, this guy was tripping on something strong, Joe. Wow, bro, could you imagine tripping on whatever this guy's tripping on? It's like, oh, man, it's just ridiculous. It's foolishness because he's not tripping on anything. I mean, he's got the Holy Spirit as giving him this timeless message that if you would just take it seriously and look at it, you'd understand. But, you know, it's just essentially that poll tells me that people are more and more open to the fables and their ears are itching. And there is a desire. Like you said, the government's hiding something. What are they hiding? Hmm. The fly is about to get on top of the camera, by the way.
37:14 So close, people. So close. We'll get them yet. I want to talk about. This is going to be a great place. I want to talk about the different places. You said that that drone one, the Reaper, Reaper, you called it. You were in the military. It's a Reaper drone. So you know more of the terminology. But what happened was they see these stuff more in the war zones. And I think that's telling in and of itself. But the military, through Arrow's website, put out a report recently. And they showed exactly where they see the most of these. Let me show you real quick. This is an image capture from the PDF report that was on their website.
38:05 And it shows, wow, check it out. They're in California, primarily, it looks like, or down in Southern California. And they're on the East Coast. Maybe there's some political stuff. I can't tell how close that is. They're in the two major war zones right now. I think those are the two major wars. I know China. I'm not sure about the other one. Maybe that's, no, that's not the Vatican. Anyway, I'm not sure what that middle one is right there. But I think that's, this is what the government says, what the U.S. government says. They're seeing the most activity of those strange objects they call UAPs in the sky. And so all those little flying orbs and glowing lights they see. Not cylindrical UFO spacecraft, as you see in Hollywood.
38:55 But these round objects that seem to defy physics. Well, from a military standpoint, when you're looking at that image. So you have on the West Coast, it is concentrated in California. But you have San Diego. That is one of the largest base of military operations as far as the Navy goes. Which we know from the USS Nimitz footage. That the Navy seems to have more contact with this sort of stuff than the other branches. And then on the East Coast, you actually have, that's Norfolk. And that's in Virginia. That's the largest naval base on the eastern side. You also have Washington, D.C. Where tons of strange occult things happen, I'm sure, on an hourly basis. So plenty of activity there.
39:42 In the Middle East, it makes sense. Because there's a lot of, again, it's a war zone. There's monitoring, heavy monitoring of the airspace. So you're going to pick up a lot more of the stuff. And then that area over by China as well. Kind of looks like China, North Korea. Again, you have a lot of the sensors that are over there. To me, it just seems to be where those hotspots are just where the most sophisticated equipment that can be employed is being used. And I imagine that if you just had that equipment all over that map. Then the whole Earth at this point would be a hotspot. Interesting. We've even talked about Brazil recently. Was it Brazil? I think it was Brazil, right? Northern Brazil had the issue. They said there was some type of alien being stalking them and stealing people away in the night.
40:34 I guarantee you, if you had some decent sensors down there, they would have picked up some orbs or something like that. It's really just a matter of time before more and more people open themselves up to this deception. And say, I want to see some of this crazy stuff that's going on. They'll start looking around. And they'll see. Yeah, they actually said that. I think in the debrief they said, we see more of these things in our airspace around where the planes are. Probably because that's where our sensors are looking. And they said, we see a lot of these things in this general area because that's probably where our most sensitive sensors are. Which I found that very surprising that they would even say that. This is our most sensitive stuff, so it's picking stuff up. Let me tell all the rogue nations where to take them out. So there's lots going on.
41:27 And speaking of those things being seen, recently there was a post on Reddit. And there's a lot of stuff on Reddit. And usually I don't peruse there and grab the videos from there because it's someone that's created some CGI. Or they've seen something that was a balloon in the sky. But this one had me baffled. And it might just be something normal. But it might be kind of strange. So I'm going to have the audience decide that for themselves tonight. This is from the International Space Station. And at first I thought, oh, come on. It's just something floating up there. But this had me intrigued. Watch what happens. It doesn't have any audio, so I'm going to kind of narrate this.
42:14 You can see over there where the circle is. There's this tiny dot. You might not be able to see it if you're on your phone. There's this tiny dot floating on your screen from the right side and going to the left. It's going about normal speed. You'd think it was just some space debris or something. That's what I thought at first, too. But then something happens. And pay no attention to the words down here. You know, they're saying it's coming into the atmosphere and all this stuff. So space debris doesn't normally slow down. It slowed down right here. And we're really high above the earth. This is not a plane. At least I don't think so. And I don't think anything can get this high. And it slows down, okay, for about 35 seconds. Just hangs out there for a second.
43:00 What is this thing doing? It's not the space shuttle. And then it changes direction. Now it's going towards us or away from us. And slowly. That must be just the speed it takes. I was trying to check out its flashing pattern. And I was like, maybe it's just flashing because it's an actual something that's created from earth. But I can't figure out its brilliance pattern. Then suddenly it takes off quicker than it came in the opposite direction. What in the world did I just see? I am not for sure. And it's going to play it again in a faster pace again. And we'll just watch it a little bit faster. You can see it floating across here. It stops for a second.
43:50 And then it goes towards. And it's a flashing. It's a brilliant light. That's what it is. And so it makes you wonder because the Bible talks about, you know, these angelic beings that fell to earth. They were considered stars of the heavens. And there it goes again. It's gone faster than it came. Was it CGI? Maybe. Was it something else? Who knows? But I think if this was taken from the space station, I think we can probably go find the archive of it and see if it was legitimately from the live feed or not. All kinds of stuff, Matthew. There's all kinds of stuff out there. But who knows? That's all I'm saying. Right. Right. Well, that one was worth sharing, I think. We'll keep an eye on it. And, you know, if it becomes something that. If it becomes something that is debunked.
44:47 If there's some debunkers out there that want to say, no, this is false. And we'd love to see it. And we'll give an update on that. But there are a couple of different things, footage from all sorts of sources. That seemed to be from a satellite, it looked like. Maybe it was the space station. I have no clue. But very high, very high altitude. And it was strange behavior. So if it turns out that that wasn't CGI or in any other way a special effect, that could be a potential sighting. Yeah, strange. Who knows? Why would something stop, go, and then stop again? I thought satellites continued around the Earth. I don't know. Anyway. Right. Well, it could also know that the camera is there. Oh, yeah. I think that definitely happens.
45:36 Right. Like the drone footage specifically. It's like, okay. I know that drone's hovering. I know that drone's hovering there. Check this out. I'm going to zoom past it in my metal ball form or whatever. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. They're going to go crazy over this. Yeah. And I think that's what happens. All these people are saying, well, they're hiding from us. And then sometimes we see them and sometimes we don't. But sometimes we catch them. Are you kidding me? It's flashing at you. It's moving left and right like a ping pong ball. And you think it's trying to hide? You think this thing is trying to? I think it's more like trying to get your attention so you communicate with it. Right. Exactly. But who am I? All right. All right. So let's get into our main program here. Somber. I'm going to play the clip just from a short portion of it from last week so we can get the idea of what they were talking about, what the government was talking about.
46:29 This is Lou Elizondo. He is a former Pentagon official. And he's talking about what he knows if somebody else knew, if the rest of the world knew what he knows. Let's just see what he says. I'll cut it off about a third way through. This first clip went viral on YouTube and is from 2020. If the general public knew or saw what you saw, what would the next week look like? How would the public react? Somber. I think there would be this big exhale for about a day. And then this turning inward and trying to reflect on what this means to us and our species and ourselves. He doesn't really explain much after that. But he kind of goes into some surmising. And I read through the comments to try to get what people were saying about this.
47:27 And someone that sounded a little more authoritative than the rest said to check out three different things. They said, and so I did. They said, check out John Lear's briefings on the famous old radio broadcast, Talk Radio, in November 2, 2003, which was Art Bell. And I thought, OK, the king of conspiracy. Let's see if anything matches up. And just for fun, just to hear what he has to say. John Lear, he created the Learjet. I mean, he has some credentials behind him. Is he the creator or is he the son of? Oh, maybe. Yeah. I think his father, Bill Lear, maybe was the one who kicked it off. I don't know what his contributions were necessarily. I know he did have some credentials for aviation.
48:19 But it is a family thing. I think he's second generation on it. Just put that out there. Yeah. So let's dig into what the introduction of him. Let's learn a little bit about him. By the way, I just want to say this is a great jumping off point. I know that that clip played last week. But I think we can easily build on this, what Lou Elizondo is saying. If you knew what I knew, then it would just be so somber. Because we're seeing that happen. It's actually becoming one of those lines that you'll see a lot of the ufologists, the people who say, oh, I've talked to the people. I've seen some stuff. I can't tell you what I've seen. I won't tell you what I talked about. But it's really sobering. It's sobering. It's like, okay, well, great. Glad that you can handle it, but no one else can. Just keep your secrets, right, until it's time.
49:11 Whatever. Let's talk about it. We have an idea of what that is. And we'll present that as we go into the program here. But if you have liked this program so far and you're interested in knowing what's going on, please hit that subscribe button. Hit the little bell icon so you're notified when we go live and we do different things because there will be more of this. Also, hit that like button right now. Comment. Tell us where you're from because it really does help the algorithm. And we kind of like looking at and reading all your comments. That you give us instantly. See, every time I say that, instantly we jump like ten concurrent viewers. So there's something about that like button. I don't know what it is, but it really does help the live viewers. It's a viewer button. Every like is another viewer. So, yeah, very good.
49:59 Let's dig into who is John Lear. This is an introduction from the news. Here we go. Most people think I'm absolutely nuts. And that's okay with me. John Lear didn't mind when people attacked his wild stories. In fact, he reveled in it. He came to be known as the godfather of conspiracies. But anyone who was given a tour of his jam-packed den knew there was a lot more to Lear than tall tales. And that's the secret base there. Those walls were a museum of his life. Pictures with the famous and infamous of planes he had flown, secret places and projects he'd investigated. Regret wasn't a word he was known to use. Would you do it the same way? Exactly the same way. Determined to carve out his own path, Lear dove into aviation, becoming an accomplished pilot at a young age.
50:48 Eventually setting multiple world records in all manner of planes. His daredevil life came at a cost. Serious injuries caused by plane crashes he shouldn't have survived. During the Vietnam era, he flew cargo planes for the CIA and continued to court danger by flying in and out of other hot spots. In the mid-'80s, he started his own business. He began hearing stories about a UFO cover-up and, not surprisingly, jumped in with both feet, making various media appearances to discuss his ideas. The people are abducted. They're taken up into a saucer. Good evening. This is John Lear. In March 1989, he accompanied a small group to the outskirts of Area 51. Three Wednesday nights in a row, they watched a glowing disk rise above the mountains over Papoose Dry Lake. Did you see that move it did? No, I didn't. It was like this. It went . . .
51:38 The person who initiated the desert outing was a scientist who claimed he worked at Papoose on flying saucers. That scientist was interviewed live on television in May 1989 from Lear's driveway, a tale that spread around the world. . . . nine flying saucers, flying disks. Later that year, the identity of Lear's friend was made public. Bob Lazar's claims put Area 51 on the map. In his later years, Lear's health declined. He could no longer fly. . . . He continued to share stories about increasingly outrageous conspiracies. The crazy stories don't obscure what was an amazing life. To the end, Lear figured he'd be vindicated. Believe me when I tell you, you may not find out in a month, a year, five years or ten years, but you'll look back at what I'm telling you now and you'll say to yourself, my gosh, the son of a gun was right.
52:31 George Knapp, 8 News Now. All right, so that's who John Lear is. He's a fascinating character because I didn't realize he was so connected to Bob Lazar. Apparently, that was one of the guys that went out with Bob Lazar when Bob Lazar was showing him all this stuff after Bob . . . So I listen to a lot to try to figure out and I have a lot of things that I'm trying to figure out how to connect all these things together. But what I found was . . . When Bob Lazar . . . And we're going to take a rabbit trail real quick. When Bob Lazar was first getting into this, he didn't believe a thing about it. And let's assume for a second that Bob Lazar's stories are true. Because I . . . He's an interesting character that we're watching carefully on the channel because it could be that there are some physical deceptions that might come out of this.
53:25 We don't know yet. I think Matthew had a good theory on how those physical deceptions might manifest. How in the world can physical craft come out of this, Matthew? You like my theory that much, do you? I do. I do. You like that I built on that. Yeah, just for biblical purposes, if you want to know how a physical manifestation can come to pass, read through some of the opening chapters in Exodus where it talks about Pharaoh's magicians. They were able to replicate some of the miracles of God in their own way. They were able to turn rods into swords. They were able to turn serpents. They were able to turn a portion of the Nile into blood. They were able to replicate frogs falling.
54:10 But when the lice came, they were no longer able to do it. And they actually told Pharaoh that, yeah, this is like God, God. Capital G God is doing this to us, and we can't replicate it. But, you know, that being said, there was some physical manifestation. I believe the Bible when it says that they had the capacity to turn the Nile into blood. I don't think it was like a parlor trick that maybe you would encounter today where someone has like red dye and some thickener or something. And you're like, oh, no, it's blood. Exactly. Yeah, I think that the Bible would have been explicit. It would have said that it appeared to be blood or, you know, it seemed to be blood. But it just says that it was blood. So I take it for what it's worth. And Egypt, ancient Egypt was a cult powerhouse.
54:59 I mean, that allegory. That Alexandria even. This is before Alexandria was called Alexandria, I'm sure. But that was known as like the occult hub of the ancient world. I'd like to know what it was beforehand. It was called Alexandria because Alexander came in and named it after himself. I wonder what it was called before that. Anyway, don't want to get off track. Basically, ancient Egypt full of weird demonic stuff. Physical manifestations happen. Modern world full of demonic stuff. Physical manifestations happen. Manifestations are happening. And there's nothing new. Yeah, nothing new under the sun, people. But it's fascinating because according to the story, according to Bob's own words, he was not interested in this stuff. And he said this is the most kooky thing I've ever heard until he got hired to go down here.
55:47 And then he said, OK, I'm going to come back to my crazy friend, John Lear, and tell him you're not so crazy after all. I've seen these things. I worked on them. And so as he came back, he said, John, you want to see these things on Wednesday nights? And so that's how this whole thing started happening. He went down here. And consequently, after three nights, they caught him. And they, according to the story, this is, again, the story, but they caught him. And that's how Bob Lazar was not working there anymore because they said you can't just show all your friends what you know to the story. But again, who knows? At the same time, all this is happening, what did John Lear actually believe about all this stuff? So I found this old podcast, podcast, that's what we call them today, talk show of Coast to Coast.
56:45 Coast to Coast AM. Yeah, I used to listen to that. It's a classic. I know. It's got a catchy theme song and everything. I know. What was it? The Chase. It was fantastic. That was the name of the theme song. But it was, I thought we'd cut up this and kind of dissect it a little bit to hear what he has to say because even Art Bell, the king of conspiracy back then, has a hard time believing what he's saying. And so let's dig into this and kind of figure this out. Our first UFO recoveries were in the late 30s. We made a couple in the beginning of the 40s and then came Roswell, which the public found out about. We got two IVAs. We got two IVA aliens from Roswell. One died shortly thereafter. One lived until 1956. And we found out that so far there are 18 different alien species that we know about monitoring Earth. Some are good. Some are hostile. Most are indifferent. We found out that we are the experiment or product, if you will, of an alien race who we never met and really don't know who they are.
57:47 All we know is that the Greys are cybernetic organisms, glorified robots, if you will, who work here at the Earth. Who work here at the behest of their employers monitoring us through abductions. We were never able to find out what the experiment is all about except that we have been externally corrected about 65 times and they, the aliens, refer to us as containers. There has been speculation that the souls our bodies contains is the reason for the experiment, but nothing has been proven or determined. Okay, so there's a lot there. There's a lot. And each clip contains a lot. Wow. So let's dice this. Do you have bullet points, Bradley? I do. I hope you do. I type in notes as I'm listening to this. I have a rough summary of what's happening and I look at it and I think, okay, this is what's coming up. And then as they're talking, I'm like, oh, I've got to talk about that. Oh, I've got to say that. Okay, so here we go.
58:39 What I thought was interesting was he said in the late 30s, up until this point, most of, and that is confirmed by the government at this point, the narrative, is that in the late 30s, somewhere over there near Italy, they found something physical according to what the government is publicly saying, the U.S. government is publicly saying right now. So I think that's fascinating that he confirmed that and didn't say it was the mid-40s, which is Roswell, which a lot of people say. Right. And so that gives it a little bit of interesting backstory there. I don't believe, and whenever he says aliens. I want the rest of the audience and everyone listening to say demons in their head, because I don't think that what he's saying is, yeah, the aliens are cybernetic organisms and all this other stuff. I think that's the narrative that has been given him. But I think it's interesting that what he believes about all this stuff externally corrected.
59:39 In other words, demonic entities have been talking to the government and they have said, no, no, no, no, you can't do it this way. And they have been, you've been corrected. Into doing it a different way. And they view us. And this is what really, really amazed me. And they view us as containers of souls. Now, here's the deception. Here it comes again. Always, always, always, Matthew. The duality of the soul comes out again with every demonic and pagan religion. And I say that very, very kindly because there are even some religions that believe this. That are. That believe closely to what we believe. But I think it's fascinating that even back then they were pushing the narrative.
1:00:26 They being demonic species. The fallen angels were pushing the idea that we are a separate entity. What do you think? What do you think, Matthew? Spiritualism and UFO stuff. Wow. Imagine that. You can't escape it. That's why it's so. It's such a good thing that we dive into that. This topic because as Christians, we actually do have skin in the game. It's not just a weird sci-fi technological type of thing. If you look, it always has some weird occult message that's being pushed. They view us as as containers of souls. It's good. You can already see where it's going to be twisting around some of the Bible messages because Jesus talked about how you can't put new wine in your cup.
1:01:17 You can't put new wine in an old wine skin. And talked about how when you cast out a devil from someone's house, you clean it. And, you know, unless God is residing with that person, he'll grab some of his buddies and come back even worse than before. It's there for them to twist that scripture. Satan knows how powerful God's word is. And he wants to appropriate it and use it to deceive the masses. The whole idea about the grays being cybernetic. Biological beings. That's an interesting angle, though, because if you remember in the congressional hearings, David Grush, when he was under oath, was very specific. When he was asked about bodies, he said there is biological material that they're in possession of.
1:02:05 And that seems to line up more with this idea that maybe they're well, cyborgs are kind of infused. It's like, yes, that's partially organic, partially synthetic. Well, he said in the hearings, it was a point that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuck out to me. But yeah, I mean, you just heard John Lear say that. Well, if they're cyborgs or whatever, a cyborg is it's a biological being that has cybernetic implants. So machine implants. So it's like a hybrid being. And if he's saying not necessarily that it's a body, but we have biological material, that could be like, OK, they stripped out the technological parts. The technological portion of it. And what are they left with? Maybe like the skin or the eyes or whatever creepy stuff they got floating in a jar.
1:02:53 The the grays, too, if they're going to go with and say that they're A.I. or something like that, because I mean, that's what it would be like an A.I. inhabiting these bodies. They could run with that narrative of a rogue A.I., which humanity is being trained to fear extensively. I don't know. The only interesting thing that stuck out to me was that he referred to. I didn't put that together. Well, I just don't think I've heard. Have you heard anyone else say that the grays were cybernetics or cyborgs or partially? Yeah. That's what stood out to me because the grays are notorious in the UFO world for being the scary ones, the bad ones. They're the ones that that mutilate the cattle and they suck people up and probe them. So tell me what they look like. Because a lot of people. People are in here saying, well, what are they terminator? What do they look like? The grays are your classic big eyed gray or green alien looking thing.
1:03:53 If you type into alien into Google Images, that's your typical gray. Yes, that's what they're described as. Very smooth looking, minimal features, which, you know, from a design standpoint, could make sense. I don't know. This thing is this thing is shaping up to be pretty wild. I don't know. Like I said, that just stood out to me the most. I think I'll do some research on my own and see if there are any other UFOlogists who have said that. If you feel free to drop it in the chat, if you know any other UFOlogists who have claimed that the grays are cyborgs. All right. Let me know so I can look into it because that's an interesting talking point. Yeah. And so, again, for the rest of the viewers that are probably just tuning in, we don't claim that these things are cyborg. But wouldn't it be fascinating is also if, and this is just theory, this is just hypothesis, you know, all I'm saying is, wow, we don't know anything yet.
1:04:52 And we're going to learn a lot of stuff that's just the narrative at some point. But wouldn't it be interesting if not only are we getting LEDs from reverse engineering these craft, not saying we are, but we're also getting AI from reverse engineering cybernetic organisms. Anyway, this could go down so many rabbit holes. But I don't want to go too far. Yeah. That's like Joe Rogan levels of trippy, man. Okay. Okay. So now we're going to get into something that's really crazy. And this is where I thought the whole cattle mutilations were going. Check this out. Since 1938, we have lost over 200 aircraft to UFO hostilities and thousands of soldiers in all countries. Wow. And we've had all kinds of different kinds of action with aliens.
1:05:44 Since that time, several hundred thousand civilians have disappeared with no trace. And several thousand were eliminated by us because of their chance encounters with aliens, which we could ill afford to have publicized. A slightly more frightening phenomenon known as human mutilations have occurred on a regular basis and are similar to the cattle mutilations in that the humans or humans are taken from the street, so to speak, and returned to the same area about 45 minutes to an hour later. With their rectums cored out, their genitals removed, their eyes removed from their sockets, and completely drained of blood. In all cases, it appears that the mutilations have been conscious. One of our scientists speculates that apparently the human specimens had to be alive for the samples to be worth anything. Abductions occur on a daily basis throughout the United States to at least 10% of the population. And when we first became aware of this, we protested to the little gray being that we held in the captivity. But a deal was struck that in exchange for that, we would have to kill it.
1:06:46 The deal was struck that in exchange for advanced technology from the aliens, we would allow them to abduct a very small number of persons, and we would be periodically given a list of those persons abducted. We got something less than the technology we bargained for and found that the abductions exceeded by a million-fold what we had naively agreed to. In 1954, President Eisenhower met with a representative of another alien species at Muroc Test Center, which is now called Edwards Air Force Base. This alien suggested that they could help us get rid of the grays, but Eisenhower turned down their offer because they offered no technology. Okay, John. Let's pause it right there. There's a lot going on here, too. But I think, where do I even start with that? This is a very interesting one.
1:07:37 Where did you find this? You just saw a comment on a video and you just dug into this? Yeah. So someone said to look into three different podcasts to find the real... This is... I'm going to call it... The truth. The real narrative behind this. And they said, I'm going to give you the three. This is... Yeah. It's John Lear's briefing with Art Bell in November 2, 2003. So I YouTubed that. I wouldn't listen to the whole thing. It's really strange. But I'm just taking bits and pieces of it. There's a microbiologist from Fort Derrick's medical doctor at some national laboratories. And then there's Richard Hall of... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Out of local labor laboratories. And then there's Richard Hall of some NATO cover-up thing. I haven't looked at those at all, but again, we're not saying this is absolutely what we believe.
1:08:26 But this is something we're digging into to see what's there and what's going to be revealed so that we know what the narrative...what the lies are that's going to be coming at rest of Christianity someday, because it looks like this is going to be part of it. So who knows? Maybe it is. Maybe it's not. But let's continue on the journey. What do you have to say, man? Right. We often have to speculate about the deception on this channel. So we will talk about these things and say, oh, are the greys cyborgs? I don't actually believe the greys are cyborgs. I'll just say that right now. I believe it's a demonic deception. But I want to know, what are they going to tell people? How are they going to present this to them? Because they have to do it in some way that will make some type of sense to your average non-biblically based person. It has to line up. People aren't just going to accept this on face value.
1:09:19 It has to have these interconnected webs. And that's why even an interview like this with John Lear can be so important, because during the deception, they might point back to this and be like, yeah, you remember what this John Lear guy was saying? He was right. I mean, look at his conviction. Even in that one interview he was doing about that clip, though. Where have we heard this before? In exchange, in exchange for help and assistance to these earthly mortals, we require human life. We want human sacrifice, essentially. Wow. Seems to be the name of the game. Yeah. The pagan. The pagan gods of old is what I'm saying. The ones that came down to humanity originally and said, yeah, if you want me to make it rain on your crops, you know, kill 10 virgins at the top of the temple and collect their blood and pour it all over the ground.
1:10:17 I'll make it rain. I believe that at some point in time there was an intimate communication going on between demonic forces and humanity. And I think that we're on the precipice of that happening again. I don't believe that. I don't believe that humanity in the past was just a bunch of fools. They were stupid. They were dragging their knuckles around. I think they believed what they believed because they had very good reason to believe it. And if you look around to the pantheon of gods across the worlds, we talked before about how the flood myth is something that seems to be pervasive. There's always been a pantheon of gods. Now, the head of that pantheon is the sun god. And in the Bible, God talks about those who worship. Towards the east, towards the sun. This is an Ezekiel. They are abominable to him.
1:11:10 Because ultimately, Satan's favorite way of being worshipped is in the form of the sun. So just tying that in with what these greys are starting to talk about. They're requiring the same bargain as being struck between the aliens, quote unquote, and ancient deities. Wow. That's. That's a phenomenal. Nothing real under the sun. That's a phenomenal parallel I did not see. Thank you for that, Matthew. Wow. That's something. I think you're right. And who knows? Maybe they are being. And even like David Grutch said, I don't know if we struck any deals. I would like to know more about that myself. I'm not going to. In the intro, we have in that clip saying, I don't want to comment on whether or not we have made contact with these things. I think he knows more than he's letting on. In that. So I want to I want to play that clip of Roger Marneau.
1:12:09 I took a poll this weekend and said, how many people don't know who Roger is? And about a third came back and said that they had never even heard of him or they don't know enough about him. So Roger is a former Satan worshiper that turned Christian and he was saved. He said spirit worshiper by his own definition. Right. I think it's. They are worshiping Lucifer. And they. They freely admitted that. And it's a form of what we call today is Crowley. No, no, no, no, no. It was LaVey. LaVey worship. LaVey style. It was the same idea that, you know, they believe that Lucifer was the high God and they would worship him. But basically. Luciferianism is what you're saying. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And this is this is what he said.
1:13:00 And the priest told us. Could I have a little bit more? Your time, I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grain plain, the master's grain plain for harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued it after we express ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff because he says spirits. These demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid.
1:13:51 So he didn't really say to avoid it. He said he didn't really say exactly what that was. It was probably too vague and it wasn't possibly part of what he needed to know at the time from his priest guy. He's Luciferian priest that he was there in that church. And and so something something big is going to happen. And I think the fact we surmised here on the channel before that these cattle mutilations that have happened over and over and over again might have something to do with fear in the population. But up until now, we haven't had anything that's that has someone that has said it. It has to do with humans. I have never heard that before, and I theorized that it might have something to do with humans at some time, but I don't really like thinking about that, but that's that's awful because it really gives you a lot of questions.
1:14:53 Anyway, maybe I maybe that's a topic for another day. You have anything to say before we jump into the next one, Matt? Yeah, ritual human ritual. Human sacrifice is awful, and I look forward to a day when all evil is eradicated and we never have to deal with this again and all of our viewers can come over and we'll all hang out and laugh and have a great time like that. OK, that's all. So so this is interesting. This is where he gets into the religious aspect of it. And I thought this 27 seconds was just a strange implant into his whole theory. Watch this. Disappointment. At this point, it became apparent to all involved that there was no such thing as a God, at least as the public perceives God. Certainly some kind of computer recorder stores information and an occasional miracle is displayed by the aliens to influence a religious event.
1:15:50 So this this so unnerved Eisenhower that he had in God we trust to put on paper money and coins and put into the Pledge of Allegiance to reaffirm the public belief in God. OK, wow. Well, he just suddenly went to. Over to religion for some reason. I thought that was fascinating after talking about human sacrifice and now straight to religion. Yep. I mean, I'm not surprised because we know what this whole thing is. But for everybody else that's in this. Wow. Well, obviously, there's no God then. I mean, is that how people are going to feel when when they realize or when they hear the narrative of this whole thing? And then he said something. I'm strange about a computer recording. He's jumbling a bunch of scenarios together that I think he's he's he's had perhaps experience with.
1:16:43 We'll see. And this and then he said they can influence religious events. And somehow that's how in God we trust got on to the pennies and pledges, so I, I, I can't obviously we can't verify that, but I think it's it's an interesting to pack up and put in the back of your. Closet box inside of your brain. I don't know. I do know, Matthew, that inserting religion is strange when talking about aliens. What do you think? I just I want to check it out. So the in God we trust. That's just it was an interesting point because he said it was from Eisenhower. That does seem that it was adopted by the US Congress in nineteen fifty six. And that's just it was an interesting point because he said it was from Eisenhower. That does seem that it was adopted by the US Congress in nineteen fifty six. So that checks out. It's just interesting because I do remember learning about that coming on.
1:17:43 It wasn't like originally on the currency and then it became on the currency. So if that was kind of a nod at, I don't know, like a hidden knowledge, essentially, that the public isn't aware that now we're in contact with these beings and we're essentially they are God to the people who are in contact with them. I've often speculated that anyone who's a major patriot. I'm sorry. I'm about to burst the bubble here. I was a major patriot myself. You know, Brad said I served in the military and I thought America. I mean, I was bleeding red, white, blue. I loved it. But when I looked back at some of the beliefs of the founding fathers, it's very troubling and it comes into direct conflict with the Bible. They were deists for the most part. I'm not going to say every last one was, but Thomas Jefferson, for example, I think I've mentioned this on the show, had the Thomas Jefferson Bible, and you can look this up for yourself, but what he did was he removed all the miracles of Jesus out of there because he said that it wasn't rational, that it was fine to look at the Bible and take the teachings of Jesus Christ.
1:18:57 Yeah, that's all well and good. He was a great moral teacher, but to say that he was performing miracles, no, not true. Didn't happen. That's fairytale stuff. So from America's foundation, it hasn't been what it's been portrayed to be, where it's this nation under God, the Christian God, the God of the Bible. It's something more secretive. It's a God, but it's a false God. It is Lucifer, the same Lucifer that the Freemasons worship, and a lot of the founding fathers were Masonic. This is all just to say that whether or not that phrase appeared on the money in the 50s or that phrase was being used beforehand, there's always been this odd tie to a secret doctrine of worshiping the devil. That's not to say, I believe that a lot of the American population were genuine believers. I mean, if you look, a lot of people were fleeing religious persecution. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it took a lot of bravery and courage to do that. But unfortunately, as with a lot of things in this world, it was undermined.
1:20:15 And Satan loves operating in the shadows, and he likes to get as close to the flock as he possibly can, wearing that wool. Because, you know, these wolves, they want to feast on the sheep. And it's like, how do we do that? We have to appear as close to them as possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. reminds me of the the beast in revelation where it talks about the false prophet it says he appeared like a lamb looked like a lamb but spoke like a dragon so let's let's use our discernment people and really dig in on that you took my thunder i was gonna did i were you gonna lead into that i'm sorry i didn't mean to we don't coordinate before the program no we just kind of go into it a lot of times uh we're just hearing a lot of the stuff for the first time i obviously i put together the program so i've reviewed it once but um i missed stuff and so uh to hear matthew's take on it is is refreshing yeah lamb like beast of revelation and that's what i believe that this this nation is and so it speaks it speaks uh i would agree looks like a lamb and speaks like a dragon so and if that sounds like kind of crazy to you uh if this is your first time being exposed to this idea it goes a lot deeper and maybe on a thursday it would be worth getting into we have a thursday show where we kind of go away from this structured uh presentation and we will talk a little more about doctrine we'll interact with the chat and that type of a thing but a beast biblically speaking prophetically speaking is a kingdom it is defined as a kingdom and the beasts of revelation uh where you see it's an amalgamation of those different beasts that appears in daniel and it's very clear that those are kingdoms so we just take that logically we say okay a beast equals a kingdom so when you see beasts in revelation it is a kingdom or a country and that is why i believe it is fair to apply the false prophet a lamb-like beast to the united states of america just hold on to that thought like i said if it's brand new to you it's it's really an interesting thing to get into we won't do it right now but you know just putting it out there absolutely for you to enjoy all right so uh the next clip is um is still about religion and uh they're absolutely sure that this is going to turn religion upside down and then they contacted uh mister greer himself let's listen to this and you you pretty firmly believe that what you just laid out there as soon as it was a litany of horrors to be sure uh... is pretty much accurate john you really didn't put all the bad stuff in there but haha no uh... that that's essentially what it is i thought you were going over the top a little of the human mutilations and right it's a fact i mean it happened i'm i hear these dark quiet don't quote me there have been these things going on tight conversations people that i deal with who really do know what is going on have talked uh... very quietly john about human mutilations is just kind of that almost at the whisper in your ear stage regarding human mutilations in short growing суп entropy we go to um... so i i think a g dansart bell jakie Bongetter but um well john layer seems to be pretty protective and naples and i i mean and i would that he's even if ourINE that's uncomfortable subject look at me we're talking about early around the program there is human sacrifice for satanic ritual purposes and so it being an alien transaction or it's something else it is happening you know to john lear's credit and yeah our bell probably just didn't want to like creep out his audience too bad i think he went to some places but when it got really dark like people being disemboweled he's like can we pull away from that like so uh and this is all we're trying to dig into folks is
1:24:29 what in the world is lou elizondo alluding to when he says if the rest of the nation knew this stuff uh this is what his narrative the government your your u.s government uh believes about this stuff um apparently this is it and so um we're trying to figure that out so we know what the government is up to uh if they're trying to prepare for something here's the next uh next clip my point is that if you knew the whole story you wouldn't be pushing for this no i wouldn't i of course i would not i i believe that brookings was accurate in fact i believe even more than that i've spent all these years getting emails from talking to people in the bible belt john i talked to a lot of them i know how the fundamentalists feel and it would it would turn us upside down okay i agree with you now last night i talked with the guy who's heading up the disclosure project in washington dc and i read him the exact exact exact exact exact exact exact That same thing I did to you, and he said, yeah, go for it. Let's do it. You have a right to know. And I'm wondering, how could you possibly think like that? Yeah, how can he? I've asked the same questions, really, I have. And you get a wonderful speech in return that also makes sense.
1:25:51 You get the patriotic angle. You get the, you know, we're part of all that's happening, and we really do have a right to know about these profound issues. They're so profound that we have a right to know. And the argument sounds good. It really does sound good. But I also know what would happen if this information became. Okay, you're 100% right, and that's how I believe. And they bring up the argument, well, I'm tired of the government lying to us. Well, that's what governments do. That's what they're for. I mean, they lie to us continually. But on this particular issue, they're correct. There you go. There's the, apparently that's the narrative that your local government, the Pentagon, believes. Perhaps. We're going to dig into the other two if we can find them.
1:26:44 But if they corroborate their belief, we wonder if this is actually what's going to be presented to people someday that's really going to disrupt, according to what they think, religion. I think. Tom DeLonge or someone that's more recent did say at one point that he believes that some people will go further into religion. Other people would completely lose it. And to me, that much, at least talking about this and saying, hey, you were created by these strange beings out there, and there really isn't a moral authority. I'll say it that way. There isn't a God out there. Would make a significant portion of the population, if they believe that, go absolutely crazy. Absolutely nuts. I mean, everything's on the table at that point. And that's what the Bible says is going to happen at the end of time. It's going to be absolute pandemonium.
1:27:38 And I've often wondered, just sitting through my Bible classes, I took quite a bit of Bible classes, and I always thought, how in the world can we get from such an orderly society down to absolute chaos? Utter chaos. And this could very well be it. I mean, you tell someone there is no God, and then you show them evidence that you were seated on this planet to be gathered, and you're in a zoo. I mean, yeah. No one would follow any morals anymore. They just do what they want, and it's complete, utter selfishness. I digress. What do you think, Matthew? I think that, firstly, I want to look at fundamentalist, fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist.
1:28:29 I think that's what Art Bell brought up, saying that I've talked to these people, the fundamentalists and the Bible Belt, because I'm certain that good Christians, I mean, maybe we have them in our audience. We've got a whole bunch of different people who listened to Art Bell's show when it was on the air, wrote in and said, this is a demonic deception. This stuff just screams occultist, and it's dangerous. The fundamentalist that he talks about, that's me. I consider myself a fundamentalist. I got the definition right here. I got the definition right here. A person who believes, believes in strict literal interpretation of scripture in a religion. Well, that's me. I believe in a strict literal interpretation of the Bible. It's like I said earlier, when Exodus tells me that the rods became serpents, that's what happened. I take it on faith. God's word is not going to lie to me, and it's there for my understanding and for my benefit.
1:29:22 It's just, we are apparently the ones who are going to be turned upside down by this. We're the ones who are going to be turned upside down by this. We're the ones who are going to go, Oh no, there's no God. And we're going to go nuts and start burning the country down. No, that's not true because we have a program like this one where we're getting into it and exposing it. And I believe that the fundamentalists are going to be the most level-headed on earth who say, yeah, we knew a deception was coming of this magnitude. That means Jesus is right around the corner. Yeah. And they'll think we're crazy for that. Yeah, that's us losing our minds is now they think Jesus is coming. Oh no, listen, we're going to be absolutely fine. If they come out, whatever quote-unquote proof that they roll out with, don't bother buying it because it's not biblically sound. In 2 Timothy 3.13, and I brought this up, I really, really like this verse to describe the times we're in.
1:30:19 Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. It's that twofold aspect to it. I really like that those who are deceiving the masses, as he's saying, the government is lying to you. And he also says that they're right to lie to you. But the government is lying to you. But the government themselves are being lied to about this situation. It's a twofold process. Really, the ones who have a perspective on this, it's the creatures of heaven and the fallen angels who are down here and are actively doing the deceptions. As far as the government... The government being right to lie to us, that isn't right at all because it's one of God's commandments. Exodus 20.16 says, Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Clear cut. Don't lie, folks.
1:31:12 I know that sometimes it can be difficult when you're in a situation and a lie feels more convenient than the truth. Believe me, I've been there. I've had to stop myself and just tell the truth. Just tell the truth. And it's always so much better. And doing a little fabrication because you end up having this... It is. It's like a dirtiness you feel because you know you're transgressing against God. It's not right. Don't do it. Jesus had something interesting to say about the truth. He spoke to the Pharisees. And this is from John 8.30 onward. As he spoke these words, many believed on him. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then ye are my disciples indeed, and ye shall know the truth. And the truth shall make you free. I bet there's a lot of secular people who don't even know that scripture.
1:32:03 You hear it over and over. The truth will set you free. The truth will set you free. And oftentimes it's to a person. They're saying, oh, you're living a lie. Just start telling the truth. The truth will set you free. But that's not what Jesus is talking about. Jesus is saying the gospel, what he has to teach us about the spiritual realities of our world, that will set you free. So rather than... I can go into the government, and I believe a lot of our audience doesn't go to the government for these answers. But if you're new to the channel, and you do, I'm going to implore that you go to God's word instead, because you will find freedom there. You won't be turned around and confused and depressed. You're going to... The truth will set you free. And it's not a truth that you're going to be telling. It's a truth that is told to you through God's word. Amen? Absolutely. Absolutely. And going along those same lines, I was reminded, maybe by not my own power, this verse, 2 Timothy 3.
1:33:05 This is what will happen in the last days. This is what causes... And I've always wondered, how does this happen? I mean, we've seen this a little bit, but how does it happen to the extent it seems it's going to happen? It says, verse 1, But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come, for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud blasphemers, disobedient to their parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, but denying its power. And from such people turn away. Turn away from these people. And what's fascinating to me, me is look at all this stuff we inside of ourselves know that there is a god so that satan has to play off that and he has to say hey look yeah i'm your god i'm just not your moral authority so you can guys can do what you want and uh and and just go and do it so all these people they have a form of godliness because they they think there is a god because it's it's part of us even even the atheist knows there's a higher power whether it be aliens or some other thing that created us they he he knows something else is going on here there's a form of godliness but it denies the power what is that power to change someone to make them a hundred percent godly again that's the amazing power of god and so yes what we're going to see at the very end of time is all this stuff selfishness i mean it's just going to be rampant why because you tell people that this that you're you're an animal and that you're just here in a zoo called earth for everyone to see and you're being uh harvested for your reproductive glands i don't know you know i mean all kinds of stuff and what does that say to you because at that point you're going to go it's out of my control we need help we need a savior but the the verses that brad was reading just based off of that i don't need to be convinced of a lie that i'm some type of a zoo animal living in the zoo if people are behaving in this way in the last days then absolutely we need divine intervention a great example of when divine intervention was uh taken was in genesis 6 when god flooded the earth and what was the state of humanity at that point genesis 6 5 and god saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was evil only continually it's just like awful it's not a world worth living in when it gets to that point when when when humanity becomes so burdened by its sin that every interaction is evil it's time god come down like i said divine intervention that's what we need it for not to break us out of a prison a zoo planet that we're stuck in no we need we need to be from sin and a sinful world and ultimately that's what the bible describes so that's what we have to look forward to i think unfortunately i think unfortunately that whole zoo narrative or that we have evil aliens oppressing us it's a shame but the way it's going to play out is the quote-unquote good aliens are going to show up and they're going to rescue us from the bad aliens when it's really just a good cop bad cop situation they're all demonic and you know it's it's easy yeah just set it up i'm i'm punching you with one hand and then my other hand comes and goes and i'm like i saved you you're you're not being punched in the face anymore i i wrestled that hand under control it's like hey i got him right here i'm in full control very good you know everyone it does take time to put this this this together we do spend a lot of time throughout the week to try to get understand what the narrative is and present it to you all if this has been valuable to you please go to patreon.com strange normal it really does help and you can find some huge value in it because you can also become part of our discord our discord has so many people that are looking into this stuff and digging into it and finding the the fascinating stuff to present to you on this podcast so if that's something that is valuable to you go to patreon.com slash
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