0:00 Government investigators seem sincerely baffled by what these things are. Today's report analyzed 144 separate sightings of UFOs by the U.S. military. But in only a single case could the government explain what it was. So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. This is a person I respected tremendously. Very, very senior person. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. And I said, okay, sir, so it's ours? And he said, no, that's not what I'm saying. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I wasn't quite sure where he was going with that. And I said, well, sir, I think I know. What it says, where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them.
1:21 And what I've been trying to do is to use the special privilege that I've been given of getting access to a Harvard education and a law school education and with the Jesuits and all the different people and meeting, you know, Baba Muktananda and getting to meet all the spiritual leaders of our people and our planet is to try to develop a really intelligent, sophisticated, spiritually informed, but rationally developed a set of policies for our dealing with extraterrestrial civilizations. The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. Maybe, again, the things that we have peopled our religions with in the form of spirits or, gods or what have you, are really just these things showing themselves as they appear to be now.
2:28 Religions have made conclusions about the data, have become set in their ways. And that is frankly what sets up this potential conflict amongst the religions because they've all come to a conclusion and they're trying to prove the other one wrong. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky and like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere and then they, on the morning they discovered that the whole, the whole machinery was destroyed.
3:22 Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter chapter two, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. We're now less than 16 minutes away. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first, the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. Then terrorists would be identified and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism.
4:15 Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. We now call them nations of concern. And the next enemy was asteroids. Now at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final card. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. No, I'm not talking to you about this. What am I going to tell her or him? You know, these little kids, you know, 10, 11 years old. Yeah, that there's a force that exists out there that can control our environment, that can put thoughts in your head, that can lie to you, trick you, deceive you.
5:16 To say that to a 12-year-old? I mean, we're already saying it to a certain extent. 14 minutes, 30 seconds and counting. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently, that invite extends even to Martians. You know, there were no questions that prepared me for what I was about to get into. You know, people often say, oh, it must have been fun and must have been exciting. No, it was pretty sobering. You know, I liken this conversation to like having a conversation with a loved one about maybe cancer. Now, the good news is the diagnosis looks fine. You're going to recover. But it's a serious conversation. This is something that we are challenging people to reevaluate their philosophical, psychological, sociological, and emotional values.
6:14 And so, we're challenging people to reevaluate their philosophical, psychological, sociological, and theological belief system. Anytime you ask humanity to do something like that, it usually takes generations. You can't just pivot because, you know, for example, let's just take culture, for example, of a country. It's like an aircraft carrier. How long does it take to turn an aircraft carrier? Well, it takes quite a bit of time and a lot of effort and whatnot. Well, this topic is the same way because we're challenging people to reconsider, if you will, reevaluate their understanding of what they've been told about the universe. And more importantly, our place in it. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a… To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts?
7:00 I don't. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me. And I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. The so-called angel. The so-called alien beings are actually manifesting at times as dead relatives during the abduction experience to challenge a person's belief system as Christian theology in the idea that dead relatives can be talked to or even spoken to or that they're even around to be able to hear what we have to say. No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well. No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well. No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well. No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well. This does have to end well by contacting these things. This does have to end well by contacting these things. Evolution says that these things are likely to be superior, and so survival Religion says that these things are deceptive and dangerous. And the evidence, if you want to include all the theory and all the stories of these sincere people.
8:08 And the evidence, if you want to include all the theory and all the stories of these sincere people. It says that they've damaged crops, they have mutilated cattle, they've abducted people beyond their will, They've messed with our highest security protocols. They've enabled and disabled dangerous warhead members and neighbors, heads, forced pregnancies, forced surgeries, burned victims, killed pilots, and lied to people. And most experiencers have experienced at least one terrifying alien experience. So to say that these things, they haven't destroyed us yet, so they must be good, is to deny the fact that there might be a universal court saying these earthlings are protected here on earth. And that's what Christianity believes. We've passed the 11-minute mark. Now T-minus 10 minutes, 54 seconds on our countdown. Both of us, separately, without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy.
9:11 Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. Very eye-opening. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us that the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused... ...radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and over 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Mark, T-minus 10 minutes and counting, T-minus 10. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual.
10:12 His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the Gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. I'm saying about the nuclear weapons, the UFOs were turning our weapons on, and just so Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So these guys went into complete secrecy, destruction, and destruction. And now they're going to start coming up with a defense system against this phenomenon. There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern.
11:36 And so, you know, I think that we're starting to see a lot of things that we don't know. We're starting to see a lot of things that we don't know. We're starting to see a lot of things that we don't know. We're starting to see a lot of things that we don't know. People still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are a billion galaxies in an ever expanding universe. You can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this! You've seen the data! No one knows. But I think that the probability is that there might be things that we still there's something you would call life somewhere else the mission of a tip was quite simple it was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles what I guess in the vernacular you you call them UFOs we call them UAPs you know how this sounds it sounds nutty wacky look Bill I'm not I'm not telling you that that it doesn't sound wacky what I'm telling you it's real the question is what is it what are its intentions what are its capabilities my name is Tom DeLonge most people know me as the founder of popular rock and roll band called blink 182 I started a company called to the stars that eventually became to the stars Academy of Arts and Science we are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma it's the first time that we had the videos properly declassified and because of that then we had information as far as altitude and speed eyes on target radar systems different on sensors that all corroborated what was happening when people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon and when they they follow what secret machines is going to teach them and mind you as we'll talk about this in a little bit it's not all coming from me it's coming from other people of the highest places the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon than and and and I make that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats there is a very very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man period and something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be over the next 10 years I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ this is documented evidence but what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief very soon not at not right in the beginning we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning but there is information coming from another world and once it is confirmed it is going to require rereading of the gospel as we know it and that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia now passing the four minute 30 second mark in the countdown still go at this time and the priest had told us could have a b b b more your time. I want to do something very fascinating. He says, the grain plain, the master's grain plain, for harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause, just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued, you know, after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said, it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain, he says, is going to take people, people are going to eat the stuff. Because he says, spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants
16:08 of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet, unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. We have 29 people watching right now. Go ahead and hit that like button. The more times you hit that like button, the more people can see this. It appears on their timeline. Thank you. Thank you so much. And tell me where you're from in the chat. Looking forward to seeing you guys. T-minus three minutes and counting. T-minus three. We are go with all elements of the mission at this time. We've just passed the two-minute mark in the countdown. T-minus one minute, 54 seconds and counting. All indications coming in to the control center at this time indicate we are go. Guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds, leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds. T-minus.
18:50 60 seconds and counting. We've passed T-minus 60. To the universe, we were never meant to solve, but who we are and why we are here are not among them. Ignition sequence five, six, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome back to Strange Normal. My name is Brad Burnham. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what's going on. And there is a lot going on. And I'm going to prove that tonight because we have some amazing guests tonight that have done some amazing things. And before I get into that, though, I want to ask that you hit that subscribe button, hit that little like button, because it really does help bring this message further and present it to the rest of the world that needs to hear this message.
20:26 And if you haven't seen Starfall, Starfall is the main documentary on this channel, at least the first one, that will be a pinnacle to you understanding what's going on in this channel tonight. So please go watch. Starfall movie, starfallmovie.com is the website. You will see things that you didn't even realize was possible is happening right now, right before your eyes. And you need to be a part of that knowledge so you can spread it and bring it to others. Now, without further ado, I want to introduce our guest tonight. How are you doing, Olaf and Jane, your wife? Jane, did I get that right? Okay, wonderful. I was worried there for a second. Thank you so much for being on here. You guys have an amazing testimony to talk about, because all I know, I mean, I know very little about it. And so I'm actually going to be a participant in the story tonight as I'm listening, because I think what you guys are doing is fantastic. You contacted me a while back and you said, hey, can you do a 20-minute segment? We're going to present Starfall. And I said, yeah, sure, I can do that. And I scratched my head and thought, what am I going to talk about? And I said, yeah, sure, I can do that. But as I understand it, you, and I don't want to take away from your story at all, so I want you to tell me how you started this process and why you did it.
21:56 Basically, we live in the northern part of Idaho, the Panhandle. And if you've ever are acquainted with this area geographically, it's a beautiful area, lots of mountains, lots of places to develop retreats. And as a result, it's a magnet for preppers. Preppers. And so preppers, yes, preppers come from all over the country and they want to be in North Idaho and Montana. Those are the two main places. So tell me, I understand what that is, but I actually had some questions. We do a little pre-show before we start this. Yeah. And we talked about it. And some of them were saying, what is a prepper? Can you tell me more about what a prepper is? So can you explain that a little bit?
22:57 Sure. Basically, a prepper is someone who has the mentality that they're going to prepare for the end of the world. So they're stockpiling on guns, on food, and finding a secluded place. Where they can be really independent. Yeah. And they can defend themselves against the last events of the world that is, in their perception, things that take place. And so there's a lot of interesting concepts and ideas out there as far as... There's a lot of conservative Christian views because they may not be stockpiling guns and stuff, but they want to be independent. They want to be independent. Yeah. And they're prepper for the trouble that's coming. Oh. Yeah. So there's a variety of different people with different religious backgrounds. And many of them are non-religious as well. But they're preppers. They want to get out of the cities because they recognize, particularly in the last two, three years, where things have become rather violent in the cities with the different events that have taken place.
24:07 And so people are moving out of those places. They're coming out of those places. They're coming to North Idaho, to Montana, driving the real estate prices way up. Yeah. But we have a lot of these preppers that are just pulling all around us. And so I was just discussing with my wife, how can we reach these people where they're at? And so we came up with a seminar that focuses specifically on... Topics that a prepper would be interested in knowing more about. And we came up with... And something that's not your typical, usual, same old, same old. Exactly. Exactly. And the topic we covered, the first topic was when it all collapses, society, nature, government, basically, what do you do when all of that collapses? Yeah. Because different people have different ideas. And well, that was one of the first topic. The second topic was the event of nuclear war. And this was particularly pertinent as we're seeing the events that are taking place in Europe, Ukraine, and the tensions that are building up between Russia and the Union and the United States and all of this. So this was the second topic.
25:36 Yeah. And so this topic was specifically, what do you do if there's a nuclear war? How do you survive? Fascinating. Yeah. If a nuclear bomb hits a major city near you, can you survive it? Yes, you can. Yeah. So those were things that we had to be presenting. And we had a fellow who was very well versed in the subject matter and did a great job on that particular topic. And then the next topic that we addressed was staying healthy amid a collapsing medical system. Wow. And that was reflecting on the fact that over the past, we did see a collapsing system that didn't take measures seriously on helping people get well, but waited for them to get into the hospital.
26:34 Yeah. On incubators before they did anything. Yeah. You know, that whole . And so how do you stay healthy when the medical system is letting you down? Yeah. And so we addressed that and had a great time with that subject. And then the next subject after that was when the electricity goes off and when the power grid, you know, we're all so dependent upon electricity and the power grid. Well, what happens when it goes off and it suddenly isn't there? How do you survive? What do you do? Yeah. So we had a gentleman who came from an Amish background who, that's how he was, how he grew. And that's how he lived for many, many years without electricity. So he brought some really incredible insights on how to survive when the electricity goes off. Yeah. Little things you wouldn't think of. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And then the last subject was inspired by a conversation with one of your co-hosts, Aaron Miller. Mm-hmm.
27:42 And we met him at a potluck after church one day. And he just began to share with us about this incredible YouTube channel called Strange Normal and what's it all about. And he began to tell us all these things. And I was like, wow, I had never heard of it. Yeah. And so we thought, we want Aaron to come on and do a presentation on that. But when we approached him about that, he said, you know, I'm in the midst of a lot of things are happening. I can't do that. But he said, I know the fellow who can do it for you. And we had watched Starfall after he told us about it. Yeah. And we just thought, this is great information. This is something people need to hear. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so that's what resulted in us contacting you to see if that would be workable for you to introduce Starfall and as well as us having the audience watch the movie as well, the documentary.
28:56 Fascinating. So this was what we put together. Fascinating. So we approached one church and— Well, before you get into that, and I know a little bit about this story already, but I want to share just some things that I found and that—this is fascinating to me—that have been presented to me just recently. I'm reading through a book called Evangelism. It's kind of a neat book right now in my library. And this is some quotes from it. I thought this was pertinent to what you guys were doing. It says, God's people must awake to the necessities of the time in which they are living. God has men whom He will call into His service who will not carry forward the work in a lifeless way in which it has been carried forward in the past. Get this one, let us not forget different methods are to be employed to save different ones. or how about this one? Let every worker in the master's vineyard, God's vineyard, right, study and plan devised methods to reach the people where they are. We must do something out of the common course of things. We must arrest the attention. And that's exactly what you guys are doing. And I think that's fantastic that you guys are thinking out of the box and saying, okay, these are where these people are over here. Let's bring them in. And, you know, I don't have any problem with prepping. I think that we are going to come on a big problem here in the future. And I think that having a little garden, you know, living a little bit away from the cities is probably a good idea. So go on, go on. I'm interested to know how, if you had any difficulties presenting this uncommon...
30:55 message that I think is so important. Yeah, and definitely this is uncommon. This was an uncommon approach. It was out of the box. And when we approached the first church that we thought would be an excellent venue to have the support of that church, they said, well, let's, let us review it and we'll get back to you. And they came back to us and they said, well, we like all of the presentations except two. And I said, well, what two that you're uncomfortable with? And they said, well, if you would do away with the one on the nuclear war and do away with the one on aliens, UFOs, then absolutely you can have a seminar at our church. And it was like, oh, that was so disappointing. And, but for us, it was like, either, either we do the whole thing or we do them now. And so we, we just took a step back and we were praying about it and we shared it with another church just casually. Yeah, one church members we were visiting. One of the elders, yeah, of another church. And he, he, he jumped on and he said, what? Why don't you do it at our church? The church he had told me. So, so make a long story short, we ended up able to schedule the event at that church and they ran with it. They were so enthusiastic. Amazing church family over there. Yeah. Yeah. So, and we had a phenomenal turnout.
32:39 We had a good number of community members as well as church members from all this area. It was, it was more than we expected. And, and this was the time when you had that, the big snowstorm. Is that correct? Yes. The same day, actually. And we were expecting that we weren't getting many people because of it. And the church filled up. Yeah, we had a record turnout. In fact, if we had any more, it would have been, we would have had to turn people away. We didn't have enough room for everybody. We had a luncheon meal and everything was packed. It was just amazing. And this was on a snowy day, as, as you mentioned, it was just, snowing and people were, were showing up. Yeah. Incredible. So, so, so go on. I interrupted you. I wanted to ask about the weather because I knew that was a big factor in whether or not people are going to show up or not. So what were you going to say? So we, so we went through each of these five topics and particularly was, which was of interest, was the very two topics. Yes.
33:53 That the other church, went to the council, which was incredible. People had, were so intrigued at, regarding nuclear war. And they were also intrigued at, with the aliens, UFOs and encounters, and also the, when electricity goes off, also had questions. But, but the very subject matters that the other church thought would not be appropriate were the very things that people were hungering to, to hear. Yes. For, and, and to discuss and know more about. So. That's. And after the program, people were stopping us and asking, I had a number of people ask me, where can I see this again? My I want to hear, I need her to see this. And I had other people say, I've never heard these things before, but it makes sense. This was particularly about the documentary. About, yeah, the documentary Starfall. Oh, yeah. Praise God. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah, so you had—go ahead. I was just looking for, you know, people who are church members as well as individual non-church people, which was amazing.
35:11 What an amazing way to reach out. I think that's fantastic. So do you have experience in doing seminars like this already? Have you put together some things in the past, or how does someone—this is my main question— how does someone get started like this, and what advice do you have to them? Yeah, he's put together seminars and camp meetings and things, so yeah, he has some experience. We have a little bit of experience, but really all it takes is somebody who's willing to step out and do something. Interestingly, we— we received a phone call just about a week and a half ago from a young lady who's never put on any seminar, and she's putting on this seminar because God has put on her heart to do that.
36:05 It's a seminar that is more specifically to reaching people who are backslidden, but she's going totally out of her comfort zone to do something like that. And I guess in answer to your question, how does a person go about it, well, the first step is— do you have a willing heart to do it? And if you do have a willing heart, then God is more than able to equip you and bring to you persons and people that will assist you in what may happen. But that's the first key. Has God put that on your heart? Then run with it and do something big for Him. Because He will open doors when other doors close. Yeah, yeah, He'll step in and He'll do all the work. I mean, we have— we have to do— we have to step forward, and He does the rest, but we have to make that initial step. He's not— it's almost a step of faith as we step forward.
37:01 And I see that throughout the entire Bible. I mean, even back to Abraham, right? He went forth not knowing where he was going, but he stepped forth in faith, and God did the rest. And throughout the entire Bible, you have this concept of it's not by works that we're doing this, because God does— He does all the work. But the thing that we have to do is show that we are choosing to go forward, almost as if we're showing the rest of the universe, the courts of heaven, that, yeah, this one's for this plan right here. And that's what you guys did. That's fantastic. And I really appreciate that. Do you have any plans for the future on doing this, or something like this, or another event like this? I think this was a very creative way to do things. Yeah. I think out of— The seminar event, it created such exciting enthusiasm for the church that we had worked with.
38:02 We're ready to let's plan. So definitely that is something that is being considered for the future. And the neat thing about it is other people are now becoming excited. The church that was reluctant has come back to us, and so— And inquired. Explore this more. So there's now an openness, potentially an openness there, to possibly having the seminar at that church as well. Oh, wow. That's wonderful. Praise God. So was the other church— And I don't want you to name names. I'm just curious. Is the other church a bigger church, or was it a— It is a bigger church. It's a bigger church. Okay. So that was probably the reason why you chose that one in the beginning, but it worked out anyway in the end. Very, very good. Yeah. You know, that's something that we struggle with on this channel whenever we're talking, is how to get the message out and how to reach the people that can already— that already know the Bible, and they can push the message further out to more people.
39:08 And we've had some big leaps and bounds in that and been presented with some huge opportunities, but we almost need a grassroots movement to step forward with this. Because the message is not just simply about, you know, aliens or demons presenting themselves as such, but it's a much bigger plan of spiritualism and how it's here to deceive using religion at the end of time to make a much bigger problem. So I think it's fascinating. Fascinating, fascinating. Very, very good. Do you have any— I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we didn't touch on. Any other comments or things? You heard from people that after the show that you would like to discuss? I'm putting you on the spot. Yeah, it just was a very positive experience.
40:11 We've directed a lot of people to Strange Normal as well, both in the U.S. and in Canada. Yes. So, yeah. So Canada too. So were they watching remotely? Well, I'm a Canadian, so I have a lot of friends and family. So we just kind of spread the word. Very good. Yeah, my father's Canadian, so that's very good on the East Coast. So that's—I don't know hardly anything about it, but my grandmother was a dual citizenship, so we would visit Maine way up there in the East quite a bit. But, yeah, very good. I have to say, when we first met Aaron and we were talking about this and he was telling us about Strange Normal, I already had some understanding of— you know, basically what the UFO movement was, only because it's kind of easy to figure out when you hear the accounts of people who claim they've been abducted, and it's a horror and a terror.
41:12 And so I realized it's demonic, cows being turned inside out and things like that. And so when Aaron started telling us about this, what I didn't know is I didn't know that the U.S. government was going to do this. I didn't know that the U.S. government was going to do this. I didn't know that the U.S. government was going to do this. I didn't know that the U.S. government was going to do this. I didn't know that the U.S. government paid any attention to this, let alone had involved. You know, you hear the conspiracy stuff and all that thing, and you just kind of blow it off. But once he started explaining to us, and of course, the state of the debt is huge. Yeah. And we checked out the channel, and of course, since then, we've been recommending to everyone we come in contact with that this is an important topic for the time we're in. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, you all know, that's what really amazed me, too, is that not only, and what really started this whole thing, because I had been thinking about looking into this, I don't know, about 10 years ago, and I thought, you know, I really need to make a documentary on this to try to figure out what's going on.
42:11 But it wasn't until the Nimitz encounter came out. The Nimitz encounter, for those that are listening, is this place, that thing that happened off the coast of, I think, Mexico, near California. And these things presented themselves, to pilots that were in the area, and they took off looking for these things. And they have radar and all kinds of stuff. I'm sure if you watch any news, you'd see this, if you don't watch Starfall. But it was fascinating, because not only is the government looking at this, but they've been looking at it for a very long time, and actually sending out, denying the fact that they're doing this. And I don't like to get into the, because, I mean, you can, easily fall into the trap of the typical ufologist that says, oh, the government is lying to you, and this, that, and the other thing. And it's not my thing to try to place blame on something, because I, it seems to me that we're all just people, and we're not trying to deceive people, especially our own government.
43:21 But the government is truly just trying to figure out what it is, and if it can't figure out what it is, it wants to keep its job. So it's not going to say, oh, yeah, we weren't able to do something, because that would look bad on paperwork. And so I think there's a much deeper explanation for what's happening here, and it has to do with spiritualism. And we're going to see a lot more of it coming up. But the important thing is that we're getting this message out, and you guys are doing a fantastic job of it. And I hope more people are doing something like you. If so, I'm going to see a lot more people and I'm going to see a lot more people and I'm going to see a lot more people if someone wanted to do that. And I realize I kind of asked this question again, but I'm kind of asking it in a different way. What would be the first steps that you think they should start? You did. Okay. First thing he did is he said, okay, I want to do a seminar.
44:16 I want to reach the preppers. So first thing we looked at is what are they interested in? And their main interest is protecting themselves. We want to be safe if the power goes down. We want to be out of the city. We want to be safe if the power goes down. We want to be out of the city. We want to be out of the city. We want to be out of the city. The city is going to close us in so much easier. So he looked at things that they were interested in. Then we looked at what resources we had and the people we knew. And he tried to pick people who were kind of like experts in their topic based on interactions we've had and what we know of them. So he came up with his topics. Then he contacted the people to ask them, hey, would you be interested in doing something like this with us? And most people, he said, yes, absolutely, with the exception Aaron wasn't available, but he gave us other ideas.
45:04 So from that step, Olaf put together a plan. He had his speakers chosen. They had their topics that they were comfortable with and willing to present. And then the next step was to go to the church and present it to the church and see if the church was willing to participate in this and open the church up to this. And the one church, that got excited and wanted to go with it. Then the next step is Olaf printed out a flyer that the church went and they went door to door handing out flyers and they had posters put up and advertised it. They built a website actually. So on the flyer, it had a website to click into and you register. Now, one thing we did find out with registering, we had everybody that attended, pretty much was registered. It was good for us because we knew what to expect beforehand, although with the snow, it was kind of sketchy.
46:08 But one problem we ran into is near the, close to the time, like I think the night before the seminar, I had given a flyer to someone and they looked at it and they said, oh, we can't come because we have to register. And, you know, it's tomorrow. So I would caution people against doing the, the absolute registration unless you call it pre-register or something like that because you don't want people to actually see people after the seminar. Oh, we'd love to come, but we didn't register. Oh, yeah. So, but like Olaf said, we couldn't have more people. We were full. So anyway, yeah, get the message out and then put our order of service, I guess you would call it together.
46:59 Announcements. We planned a luncheon in between. So that's what presentations. And then we had a lunch that we provided. It was a light lunch, soup and bread. And, and then after the lunch, we continued with two more presentations. And the lunch is a really good idea because it allows people to mingle and discuss with each other and with our presenters. And then the very last thing we had was a question and answer. And that's where, the audience could ask questions. We had the questions down and they did it to the MC. And we read the question to our panelists and they would respond. And the reason we did it by written down is so that you prevent having someone make a speech or, you know, just take up more time than we had.
47:53 And so it was very orderly. It went very well. We had excellent questions. And yeah, we closed it up very, very nicely. Presenters did handouts. Some of them for the presentations they did. And the people were eager to get the handouts because, you know, information they can take home with them. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So that's it. So they, so your presenters, so they were, they were, they were also preppers? I mean, sorry, you broke up a little bit there because I don't know, I guess there's a bad connection a little bit. So, so tell me more about the presenters and how did you find them? Yeah, sure. Well, our first presenter, he's actually, he presented the subject matter, when it all collapses, society, nature, government, when it all collapses.
48:50 So how did I find him? Well, he, he was someone that was a good friend and that I was very well acquainted with. And he had interest, he had an interest in, in these, in the subject matter. In fact, he has spoken on these, this, he's a public speaker. And, and so I thought, you know, that he would be ideal. And he did an incredible job. He was, you know, one of, one great presentation that took place. So how did, how did I find him? Well, it, I, you know, truly, you pray about these things. You ask God to impress your heart and God will bring to your heart names and persons. Yeah. And, and, and you, you know, prayerfully make this a cooperation between you and God.
49:41 And don't be afraid to ask lay people. Yeah. Because our, all of our people were highly qualified because they studied their stuff. They knew it, their interest was there, but they weren't necessarily public speakers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we only had one person who was a public speaker. Yeah. The, the next person who did the subject matter on nuclear war, he was well versed in it. And only because he was at the Berlin Wall when it fell down. I mean, he had some incredible, amazing life stories. Yeah. So just the conversations with him just caused me to both, both of us said, Hey, he's the one for this. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So. The one on, I'm sorry. No, no, no.
50:31 I would just go, go for it. Go for it. I have a question afterward, but I'm interested to hear what you have to say. Okay. And the one on health, that is a subject matter that I have deep interest in. And so I did that presentation. And then of course, the one on the electricity, the Amish, the Amish gentleman, he had done a presentation at an event that we had been at and just real like, we were impressed. Yeah. And so we contacted him and he said, yeah, I'd love to. Absolutely. Yeah. And then of course, Aaron, running into Aaron and as, as he shared what was happening in his life, it was pretty obvious that, Hey, he's the, he's the guy. And of course, when he mentioned he couldn't do it and he. Passed us on to you. Yeah. And that was excellent too. You did an awesome job with your presentation as well. And then the, the movie. Prescott. Yeah. Praise God.
51:30 Praise God. Yeah. There has been many questions in the chat. I'm seeing, looking through the live chat here. They want to know where are these presentations? How can they have access to these too? I think there's a lot of interest in this, not just, not just in, in Idaho, Idaho. I gotta make sure I say that right. Is it Idaho? Yeah. It's the presentations were done at the Diamond Lake Seventh-day Adventist church. And so if you do a search on youtube. You should be able to find those presentations associated with that website. And it was called, what was the name of it? The preparing for a time of trouble. Yes.
52:17 Preparing for a time of trouble. A call to action was the title of the seminar. Okay. Yeah. I see it here. It's a Diamond Lake SDA church is the. It looks like the thing I'm going to go to the playlists and see if I can see, oh, it's right here. You have hit playlists preparing for a time of trouble. It's the only playlist. Very easy to find. So that's, that's, that's fantastic. And these are something that I'm going to listen to. Yeah. The video recording that was taken that, you know, it's a learning experience and some of the videos are washed out. The slides didn't come through. But the content is, is generally there. And so it, you know, the next round doing this, we're going to try to make, improve on that aspect so that the video is, is much better.
53:12 So it's actually YouTube ready. I think you guys did an awesome job. This is, this is fantastic. Just the fact that you guys are, are, are out there doing it and inspires me, inspires others. And I think it's, it's, it's awesome. It's really good. I see five videos here. When it all collapses, questions and answers two, part two, stay healthy amid collapsing medical system. What do you do when the power grid goes out? And time for trouble. Nuclear war. Fantastic. Oh, that's great. And I think these are all relevant and especially for people that are curious about this topic. It's good information. And all, they're all about an hour long too. That's good. Very, very good. Well, do you, I want to take this time.
54:05 We have people in the chat to ask you questions and I'm going to kind of field those to see if anybody has any questions and I'll give everyone time to kind of formulate that as I call it in radio. I used to do a Bible answers live show every Sunday with a popular evangelist. And, and, uh, he would call it, uh, push, push the, push the line. We've got to push the line to get people to call. And uh, so I'm going to push it out there to anybody that wants to answer, wants to ask questions. You're, you're welcome to ask it in the chat. We're not going to open phones tonight. Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't, but I do want to reach out. And if we see any in the next five minutes here, we will ask our guests here, uh, if they can, uh, uh, go ahead. Okay. And, uh, uh, answer anything you, you have for them.
54:58 This is, this is always a fun time because you, you never know what's going to come in, but at the same time, I want to make sure that everybody is, is, uh, has their questions answered in any, any form possible. I see, uh, that one question that we just answered was where can we find those presentations? So that's good. And, um, let's see here. Okay. Can you put a link in the comments? I sure can. And I'm going to do that in the, in the live chat. And also we'll do that for, um, the comments afterwards so people can find them too. And let me just double check. Okay.
55:46 They say I'm inter yeah. Brad is interviewing a couple who shared Starfall with some doomsday preppers. You've heard it. Yeah. We, I, I, I, I find it interesting because, um, nowadays we have to delineate between what is a prepper and what is preparedness because you've had that Hollywood TV show doomsday preppers, right? And so, um, a lot of people think that, um, you know, you got a hidden bolt in your house that you stay in called a panic room and you got to have your, your gas mask and you got to have all this stuff that we seen, uh, Hollywood exaggerate, uh, everything, everything. But, um, but a little bit of preparedness isn't, isn't a bad thing. And, uh, and, uh, it's, it's definitely a good thing. I have a question. It's being wise. Yeah. Yeah. Don't rely on the system so much. I, I, I find it interesting that just in the last, I mean, in our lifetime, obviously, but what the last 200 years we've, uh, had these new things called grocery stores.
56:53 Yeah. You know, where you, you, you don't go out and you don't pick out of your own garden or out of the neighbor's garden. You don't go to the farmer's market. You go to a giant store that has mounds and mounds of unbelievable fruit from Mexico everywhere. I mean, just everywhere. And, uh, which is fantastic for vitamins and minerals and all this other stuff that we need. But, um, relying on that, I think it's, it's kind of dangerous. We, our economy lives on a thread. And, uh, I think, um, I think, uh, eventually I wouldn't, I'm, I'm, I'm not the kind that becomes too, um, concerned too fast because I want to make sure that everyone, uh, doesn't become too fanatical, but I think there is going to be a time someday in Bible prophecy, if we are fortunate, I'm going to say fortunate enough to live through it because, um, fortunate enough to, to be in it, I guess I should say, because that would be an incredible time. To see God's mercies and glory. Um, but we definitely, definitely have, um, an opportunity here to, to witness. I see the conservative racer says, Shalom, Brad, I have a question. All right.
58:10 Well, we're waiting for your question. And I just presented the, the link. So I'll leave the questions open for another two minutes here. If anybody has a question, go ahead and submit it into the chat. I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you. And, uh, we'll ask our, our special guests tonight, um, and, uh, do you have any final comments that you want to talk about anything that, uh, is heavy on your heart that, that you think, uh, is, is a, is a good thing to mention before we leave, I guess. We do have questions after this, but if you can think of anything. Okay. No, I, I, you know, uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll leave the space. So。 So when I, when I was a kid. I was. Um. is a tool that helps open people's eyes to the realities and uh the fact you know bringing out as the documentary just brought out how the u.s government has embraced this as something to be investigated and and the conflict that is happening between christians and those who are not believers and so forth uh you know the documentary was very well put together it just it was a very uh eye-opening experience for me to to watch that very impactful and and and i know that uh when it was shown at the meeting that we had it did the same for many many people as well this message that you know strange normal is putting forth is a critical message it's an important message it's emphasizing that there's a battle going on and it's way beyond flesh and blood but principality is powers of darkness against uh powers of good are happening all around us and uh we're just seeing a glimpse of that that reality uh through these paranormal things that are happening praise god and we've had some amazing clips that i'm going to include in a second one coming out soon um particularly if you've been watching this channel um a prominent christian mufon director named joe jordan has uh come out and said that uh not only him but many other researchers have noticed that these things are deeply connected with trying to push the idea that um their dead relatives are coming back and uh even though i i i emphasize that in starfall the first one i had no evidence i would just i'm sure this is connected and i needed to talk about it it was almost maybe it was a god thing because um right after that i mean it was like boom boom boom boom here's the evidence right here and uh there is so much so much going on in that in that area regarding this deception about the dead i mean i personally believe when we i've read a few books like the great controversy great book and it it delineates a lot of different uh things that are going to happen through looking through the book and i think it's going to be a lot of fun to read through the bible prophecy and one of those things is spiritualism they call it spiritualism because it was written back in the 1800s when they didn't talk about aliens this isn't i mean i don't i'd have to look it up i don't want to say anything prematurely but i don't know if there was an actual term ufo even back then yet and or at least it wasn't as common and so what they uh wrote about was absolutely uh spiritualism and so i think that's it's fascinating i need to go back and read through the second half of that now and kind of look at every time spiritualism is mentioned what does that actually mean you know
1:02:36 anyway i that's that's my little side note there but i want to look at these questions real quick if you guys don't have any comments i don't want to cut you off i just want to come into prepping um if you look back let's say 150 years ago the majority of people were farmers and if you look at what god designed in the bible the israelites when they went into the promised land they were all given a piece of land and they could never sell it because you have a piece of land you typically have shelter and you typically have a means of food but what society has done over the last 150 years is they've given us all these conveniences but what the conveniences have done is they have made us dependent yes and like you were saying with the grocery store there are so many people that do not know how to plant a garden you know there are so many people that if the grocery store runs out of food like it did in covid we walked into large stores and they were empty people what to do they go into panic if it goes out they freeze they don't know how to keep themselves warm so when it comes to um prepping i'm not i'm not into the extreme stuff like piling and guns and that sort of thing but it is wise to look back at what you know maybe our grandparents yes you know how they lived and and glean this this wisdom this is where the amish fellow that did this presentation was so valuable he has wisdom because he's lived this life that we've lost yeah these new generations coming up it's it's died with our old folks and nobody bothered to you know listen to them talk to them finally lived in what they did these methods are really simple and they give you independence wow wow that's that's that's powerfully said i i know the one thing that we we did my wife and i when we started building rebuilding out here in in tennessee as we said we have to have a wood stove it doesn't get too cold out here but at the same time you know what it's it's an easy thing to do but it's also it's an easy thing to do when you're in a wood stove and then you have wood and that's it i mean you you you you have heat yeah and you can sterilize water if you need to exactly i mean it solves so many so many problems and it's it's we depend on a lot of stuff and that stuff could go away i mean it we're looking we're looking at a lot of things right now and i'm not trying to i'm talking to the audience i'm not trying to scare anyone but but i mean think about it we're we're close i'm trying to word myself carefully here there is talks of nuclear war there is i mean more than a lot has been said about that in the news there is talks about um a completely different financial system right now that's happening cbdc and um what's the other one fed now those are some keywords that are being thrown around a lot in the news and this is not this is this is the mainstream media and you you wonder if um if that's being talked about so openly about a programmable currency that they can program right out of your wallet you gotta wonder where are we in history you know and so i think it's it's a good thing to to really uh really dig dig into and understand and be a little prepared just in case and uh a famous evangelist who i won't name once told me he said you know i i keep i keep my car stocked with water and uh and i thought that was fascinating so i i thought you know you always you're always near your car so why not have some water in the trunk you know so anyway but um we have a couple questions i want to ask real quick here um from the conservative racer brad my first time visiting you live being late i struggled to understand what you guys were talking about but i did uh but did i understand you are sda yeah we don't go really go into that very much but yeah we are seventh i am sebenthavi um my guests tonight i i don't know i uh we are having them on because we are um we are talking about that uh about starfall and stuff so i i don't know so yeah presented in a Seventh-day Adventist church.
1:07:27 Thank you so much for that. And let's see. Lisa says, did they say they were from Wendell, Idaho? Are you guys from Wendell, Idaho? No. We're out of Old Town, Idaho, which is a little tiny place up in the panhandle, right close to the border of Washington. Very good. About 1,000 people. Yeah. Very good. Very, very good. Meredith Poole, what would be the best way to survive without power if the country's power grid went down? What would be the best way to survive without power? So I imagine you're probably going into the presentations from your Amish friend, but what would be a short answer for that? Well, you mentioned it. The Whitstow is a mess. And, well, you have food. Shelter and water.
1:08:27 So a garden and your water source. Yeah. The best way to survive a power outage is to prepare today. Yes. You don't want to wait until the power goes out. Then try to figure out how to survive. And you're in an apartment, let's say, in a crowded city, and everything is out. You're not in a good position in that situation. But today. Start preparing today. For those events that potentially can come down the pipe. Which, according to Bible prophecy, we find that, yeah, things are not going to improve as the world goes along. It's going to get more and more difficult. And just in case anyone's interested, if you look up Northwest Homesteader, this lady, she does presentations on how to grow food in cold climates.
1:09:24 Through the winter. And you can actually grow vegetables without a heated greenhouse. Really? Yeah. And that brings up also, you know, this whole idea of becoming self-sustaining. Even if you are in a city, living in an apartment. Hey, it's springtime. Plant some tomato seeds. Yeah. Start in a pot. In a plant. Yeah. In a pot. Put it in your kitchen window or whatever. Start in a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Put it in your kitchen window or whatever. Start in a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Yeah. In a pot. Yeah. Yeah. Start going in that direction of becoming self-sustaining. You know, we are so dependent upon the grocery store. If the grocery store was no longer available, what would we do? Start going in that direction of becoming self-sustaining and planting this spring.
1:10:12 Little things. Little things. Make a big difference. In Canada, where I'm from, in my hometown, we had avalanches one year from a little valley. Well, the highways got closed and the trucks couldn't move. Yeah. The trucks couldn't get in for three days. And in three days, the grocery stores were empty. Wow. Oh, wow. So it was a shock. We had no idea this could happen. Yeah. I have friends that work at Walmart, one of the biggest, a super Walmart that has a grocery store. And they said, they said, you would be amazed. We go stock that thing in the morning and it's completely, we had to restock it throughout the entire day, every single aisle, because it's just completely emptied. And I didn't realize that. I didn't realize it was such a big turnover in some of these big, big stores. And everything could be gone in hours. I mean, think about, you're in a small town. Three days. Okay.
1:11:00 Hours. Things could be gone in big cities because it's so concentrated. And yeah. Anyway. Not trying to scare anybody, but I mean, prepare. Prepare. Have a little bit of stuff ahead of time. And if you don't, you're going to be in trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have a lot of stuff ahead of time, even if it's just a few cans of beans. I mean, you just don't know what's going to happen. So, thank you Meredith Poole. That's very good question. Let's see. Madeline. Aren't we told that things that are hoarded ... Oh, this is a good question. Will be taken away by force, and that it's to the mountains that the people will flee for safety?
1:11:52 This is a question that comes up quite a bit. Do you know the answer to this? I can speak a little bit about it. Go ahead. Okay, well, certainly this is my opinion, obviously. But hoarding is a fruit of selfishness. And so we've got to change our mental mindset to start with, from my perspective. When we prepare for the future, prepare with the thought of helping your neighbor. Remember, we're here to not just live for ourselves, but we're probably here to be able to help other people. And so when we're considering preparing for the future, consider what can I do not only to provide for my own family, but also for those who might be in a desperate situation around me. And I'd like to add, too, there is a difference between being.
1:12:52 Being wise and hoarding. And again, we have our past and look at how people lived in the past. In the past, people grew their own food, and then they preserved it. And they might have large quantities preserved, but they preserved what they needed until the next harvest. That's not hoarding. Now, if you're going to stockpile cases and things that you couldn't use in a year's time. Are you talking like cases of toilet paper? Yeah. Oh, okay. Then people find out you have something like that, and we're told they will take it from you by force. Again, it comes down to selfishness. I'm going to protect myself, and I'm just going to stock everything. But being wise is doing what our ancestors did in the past. They didn't have grocery stores that they just run to. So they grew their food.
1:13:44 They harvested it. They preserved it until the next harvest. So it's basically they preserved. They preserved and canned foods for a year, basically, until the next harvest. Exactly. That's not considered hoarding. Yeah, yeah. I've often heard it said that since we're told this, the ones who told us this are actually the ones who used to can quite a bit and owned hundreds of fruit trees. And so there's a difference, like you said, between hoarding and being prepared. Because back then, it was a way of life. That's what I heard you say. It was. Yes. So. And another thought that a gentleman who was the Amish fellow presented, he was pointing out that it was a way of life for them to preserve like 7,000 to 8,000 jars of canned foods.
1:14:46 Wow. Yeah, we think, you know, maybe 200 jars of. Applesauce, that's that's a lot. That's almost hoarding. But they also that is 9, 10, 11 children and so forth. But oh, yeah. But, you know, preparing for a year supply until the next harvest, I think, is a reasonable thing to do. But always keeping in mind that when you're preparing, you're thinking of other people as well, not just yourself. We don't we don't want to be self-centered people living. Isolated in the last days of this earth's history. We want to be part of those champions that are helping those who are in need. That's my perspective. Absolutely. And I think that when we help others, God will provide. We are given many, many, many examples in Scripture of where someone had the last of things. Who was it? I know the lady, the lady with the jar of oil.
1:15:47 Barley and oil. Yes. Yeah. And it. I always find that fascinating with the prophet comes in and says, you know, feed me first and then God will provide for you. Boy, that's faith. You got to you got to have faith to do that. And she did. And she had overflowing amount. If she had more jars, I'm sure more of them would be have been filled. And I think we're going to see that again. I mean, everything that how didn't how did Moses know that they see that God would keep his promise and part the sea when he told him, go ahead and part the sea? He had. He had seen it before he had read it before it had happened before in the Bible, things have happened in the Bible. We have for our faith alone. And so when we read these things, we know this can happen. Well, I have absolute faith that God's going to provide.
1:16:36 And when we step forward in faith, providing that first step to the courts of heaven and saying, I am a part of the people of God, God will do that for us. And that's why we when we have people come to our houses, I've often heard people say, well, what are you going to do? And they come and they try to take it from you. I'm going to invite them in and I'm going to say, sit at my table. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Love, love those who hate you, you know, certainly prepare a banqueting table to those who despise you, those who want to take from you, you know, turn the other cheek type of thing. These are radical concepts that Jesus taught so foreign to the way the world looks at. It's where the world is constantly mine, mine, mine. I'm going to defend it. Let me stockpile on guns because I'm not going to allow anybody to take my goods or whatever.
1:17:32 And Jesus comes along with the radical concept of you help people. They come to you and they need help. You help them. What a radical concept. Amazing, amazing. I have another question or actually, Juliana has another question here. Do you? Do you have any recommendations or the best and easiest produce to grow in pots since we don't have a yard? My husband and I are planning to have a patio garden this year. How neat. Awesome. Is there easy? Do you know of any easy, easy produce to grow? Strawberries grow well in pots. Actually, they grow well in bags. You poke little holes in them and you plant your strawberries in all the little holes. You can hang them. Let's see.
1:18:25 Tomatoes grow very well in pots. Very easy. And I'm sure you can grow lettuce in pots. Lettuce, I discovered just this last year that you can cut the top of your lettuce. And as long as you don't pull the whole thing out, it just keeps growing. And you just keep harvesting from it. From one plant. From one plant. Yeah. Yeah. So you can grow four heads of lettuce. One pot and it can serve you the whole summer. I don't know if four heads would serve more than one person for the whole summer. But it goes a ways. But yeah, there's a lot of things. I think in pots, the harder thing to grow would be roots. Things like carrots and things that grow under the ground. Potatoes. But pretty much everything that grows up. Herbs. Your basil and oregano and all those.
1:19:14 Those would grow wonderfully in pots. And those not only help to make your food taste good, but they have healing properties. We can grow bell pepper, perhaps. Yes. Cucumber, possibly. Yes. Cucumber would require a little bit more space, wouldn't it? Well, yeah. It will grow out of its pot. And it'll grow around. You can grow squash. You can put trellises. I've had squash that grew up on trellises. So, yeah. I thought of another question. Yeah. Yeah. I thought of another question that I had. What produce do you use? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But what produce, what plants grow abundantly? I'm sure different places grow different abundance because of different climates and stuff. But I can think of when we were in Northern California, which is almost the same temperament we have here in Tennessee.
1:20:06 Egg plants. Man, we couldn't stop that thing growing. There was so much. I mean, we could practically live off that thing. And so, I wonder if there's other plants, too, that would be so prolific. Yes. that we could uh we could just have uh enough and and it'd be like one plant produces so much like for instance i think the opposite side of the spectrum is i love i love snap peas i i plant those things i eat them right in the pod i mean they're so sweet and uh but they take up so much room and you only get a few so or i mean you know as much room as you make so can you think of any that that uh were very prolific for you our snap peas were very prolific were they yeah we i grew them on kind of a trellis and they grew up and we had lots and lots they just didn't stop and squash always is another one that that really grows we had volunteer volunteer squash i put compost around the bottom of my fruit trees and there just so happened to be some squash seeds in there and they came up and i thought oh i'll just let them grow that squash spread through the whole down to full harvest so yeah you just have to try different things grow better in different areas but it's amazing you know you have one tomato and inside that tomato has a million seeds and those seeds will each grow a bountiful harvest of tomatoes god has just done so much so it's such amazing things with the plants what about uh this question this is actually i'm going to form it into a question um can you grow what is the smallest area you can grow enough food in and enough food could be different for every person for every size family but um i've seen some people convert their yards in their uh in their their postage stamp properties i call them post were usually like four feet from the other house but they convert their front yard they must not have hoa because i don't know how they do this but they they make the whole thing a garden and i'm just amazed they're able to feed their entire family off the front yard and they have these stacks and stacks and stacks of things that they they mount them stuff on i mean it's a talent in itself i think but um have you seen this do you do what would you recommend have you heard anything that you would recommend yeah high density gardening is is basically uh what you're referring to is in a small amount of space you're growing a lot of vegetables a lot of produce it is something that we looked into uh both jane and i we we read several books there's a fella out of uh canada i believe it's quebec isn't it yeah but he's a market gardener and he makes a six-figure income uh healthy income every year off of i think an acre and a half yeah something just an acre of and it's his business high density gardening and yeah and he grows basically for i don't know i think it's 50 or 60. i think that's i think that's yeah that's the garden so it but he he concentrates high density gardening where he's utilizing every space for the home gardener we can do the same thing and grow on a small lot our little backyard that we have if we are in the city plant instead of green grass plant it with vegetables and produce and you will be able to sustain your family which is amazing wow even a small garden typically puts forth more than you can even use for a lot of people yeah yeah once the tomatoes start you're not going to be oh yeah oh we we brought boxes and boxes and boxes of tomatoes yeah we had we had a lot of tomatoes three different kinds but uh a whole row and we just didn't know what to do with them i mean there was just so many and then the end of the season you have a bunch of green tomatoes so i don't we um well we're we're totally off uh off topic here but um uh i think i think there's there's there's a lot of good questions coming in i i think we're
1:24:48 going to take one or two more about gardening and then we'll uh we'll conclude because we're already at 10 o'clock eastern time so um i'm going to uh let me see how do you prevent bugs in your garden how do you prevent um uh the unwanted things like uh like like aphids and bugs and all this other stuff um i've heard people say in the chat here mary marigolds and basil do you have any other other ideas neem oil yeah neem oil and depending where you live i know the southern states have a real chat with whereas we who live in the northern area uh we don't have that much of an issue with bugs but we still have to do with deal with bugs and we use neem oil and uh and um there's also kale and clay is another yes another it coats for fruit trees in particular it will coat your fruit and it's not poisonous but it changes the look of the fruit and the bugs don't recognize it as easily and it changes the taste and if you cover it before they get to it it will deter them from getting it what also organic yeah no no what was it called again it's king clay it's called sir is the brand name say it say it again there's some disconnect i forget the you keep chopping out so say say it again okay brand name is surround and it's kale and clay got it okay very good how do you guys organic okay no no no go for it go for it i was gonna say some if you um talk to organic farmers and orchardists they use other methods they use um a pheromone and i i can't remember the name of the product but you can purchase it it puts out a pheromone and the bugs are attracted to it but the smell is so strong it basically kills their senses and they can't mate and it reduces the population that's for fruit trees fruit trees okay yeah we we had a we had trouble with our peaches when we were in california uh what do you guys think about um and i don't know i don't know anything about the i have very little about gardening but uh what do you feel about the the copper on trees is that bad or good i've looked into that yeah that's we haven't used it because we're trying to do organic i really haven't looked into that okay so yeah it's not it's not organic so we we were trying everything we had to prevent blight from coming on our trees and uh and uh copper is what fixed it for us it was a copper solution it was kind of blue but yeah you're right doesn't make it it doesn't make it organic but boy that was hard so very good we're losing subscribers because we're totally off our topic of uh what the truth is and what is coming out out here but um i do appreciate you guys coming on the show and and talking about this because it is a fascinating topic and i think you you're you're on to something here please let me know if you guys are gonna do something again i would i would love to uh even if it's not on the same page i would love to do something again and i would love to do something on the same topic i think it's it's fascinating the uh different avenues you're taking to spread the gospel and and bring people into the church i think that's fascinating thank you let's have a little prayer before we go i i want to uh conclude with prayer because i started most people don't know this but i start in a pre-show on the discord and we have a little prayer to make sure that everything goes well because i've learned that if i don't do that things don't go well there are things out here that don't want us to present this message and so i'm going to thank god for everything that did go well tonight let's pray father god thank you so much for what you've done thank you for the ability to have our friends here in idaho on the show tonight and to talk more about these important topics guide and direct us and help us to learn your ways better and prepare us for a time when we won't have the conveniences that we normally have we love you god and we look forward to the day that we stand before you your throne amen thank you stick around i i'm uh talk to you just after the show and we might talk a little bit um but not too long um and uh as i go into the outro here thank you all take care i love you bye bye thanks for watching this segment
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