0:01 Ignition sequence 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. We're dealing with a tad bit of technical difficulties right up until the last bit. And I look up and boom, I'm coming on the screen. We are live from Chattanooga, Tennessee tonight. And if you have never joined this program before, welcome to Strange and Normal. You want to hit that subscribe button and you want to hit that little bell icon so you're notified when things like this happen. Because we talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life that give you a biblical understanding of what's going on. And that's exactly what's going to happen tonight. So. Without further ado, we're going to bring in most of our guests. I don't see the third one in here yet, but we are going to bring in.
1:21 Hello, Matt and hello, Eric. You've been on here before. Can you hear me? I can hear you hearing you loud and clear there, Bradley. Good, good, good, good. It's going to be a good night and hopefully we can get Joe in here. And in just a second, I think. He might have came in with a different link and kicked someone out. I'm not sure exactly where. I'm not seeing him yet, but I'm sure he's going to be in there in just a second. I'm going to pop open the fourth one just to see. No, he's not in there yet. So we're going to have him here pretty soon. And if not, I'll have to give him another link while we're showing video. And before we do that, let's look at a lineup tonight because we've got something interesting happening here.
2:10 So here's the lineup tonight. First, we got in the news. We're going to talk about what has happened not only this week, but last week. We have some interesting stuff happening in the news. That's kind of crazy, honestly, that even the news would put some of this stuff out. Normally, I cover the crazy. I cover the strange. But this is a little bit out there. The news is reporting that, you know, motherships are in our atmosphere and they are dropping off seedlings of dandelion seeds. I mean, what is going on? I don't know. I don't know what's going on right now. And let's also, we're also going to dig into Bledsoe. We said a long time ago we would dig into this because former agents of the CIA, of I think it's the Pentagon, have said, you know, these guys, we believe everything they say. And I'm like, okay, let's dig into what these stories are.
3:00 What does the government actually believe about this stuff? And it's pretty remarkable. So we're going to dig into that. We also are going to look into the ladies. Because the lady is something we've talked about on this channel before. But they appear in Bledsoe's story. That's interesting. Also, we have Joe Jordan hopefully joining us because it says that during one of his presentations, he is very critical of MUFON. And Joe Jordan is a director at MUFON. And we're going to see exactly what has happened because it doesn't really go too far into the story. But maybe we can get a little more light. With a MUFON director and understanding exactly how that works and how an investigation works that came out to visit him. And finally, something really juicy, the lying spirits, the true colors of the lying spirits.
3:53 And what actually happened in the Bledsoe case to prove if it's good or if it's bad. We're going to find all that out tonight in this very interesting episode. And we're going to get right into it here pretty soon. What do you think? What do you guys think of that, Eric and Matt, while I try to get Joe Jordan in here? The mothership dropping seedlings or whatever. I must have missed that. So I'm interested to see what's been out. I consume so much stuff I can't get to it all. So this is why we have the channels because I'll do the shameless plug tonight for the Discord because we have a great group of people. This is it's research. Everybody's dropping in different links from different places.
4:43 So we just get a wealth of information. And that's how these shows are made. And for the cost of, you know, dinner at a sit down restaurant, you too could go in the Discord through Patreon. So there you go. How'd I do, Brad? You did fantastic. I mean, let me tell you. I mean, it's it's it's so good because I'm just going to throw it in here so people can actually see what's going on because I didn't press the button. But you can see what's happening here. And this isn't like, hey, you're paying for a service. This is what you. This is help us advertise. Your money goes to advertise this stuff and to help us push the message that there is a deception coming and that we need to tell people about this. And you know what? Interact with us. And while you're while you're doing this, interact with us. And so we get to be a partner with us to try to bring this message out to everyone. This isn't like we're not a cable service. We're not we're not providing you with news about UFOs.
5:35 This is a this is a an important thing that. We're told at the end of time that there's going to be a big worship issue and there's going to be a big spiritualism issue and this is what we're tackling right now and I'm going to be absolutely frank and very, very serious with you right now if you believe that to help us because the church isn't doing that they're not talking about this issue and this is it this is what's happening right now so we need you to help us partner with us to push this message out so we can get this out further and further we can. To. Reach more people I personally not toot my own horn but I'm I'm stepping forward while I'm sick even and getting on and making this message happen I've been with friends on three ABN talking about this I've been out in different churches flying out to do presentations on this this is a passion of mine and I think it should be yours too but don't take my word for it I think we can dig into some studies today and we can really really figure out what's going on here so let's let's do it. Oh did we actually tell him how they can become a part of the discord. Patreon dot com slash strange normal. That's the most important part. Patreon dot com slash strange normal and you can partner with us and be a part of that so without further ado let me run the first news clip about what's happening last week and while I do that I'm going to try to get Joe Jordan a new link and he can get right in here so let's get right into it.
7:06 Move. Over Chinese spy balloon or whatever else U.S. fighter jet shot down last month tonight out of Harvard University a draft paper about mysterious flying objects sounding almost like science fiction. I think it's very likely that we are not the most intelligent civilization that ever existed renowned Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb teaming up with the new head of the Pentagon's UFO office dubbed the all domain anomaly resolution office together they say that interstellar objects detected in. space could be signs of extraterrestrial life and that current sky mapping technology like the James Webb Space Telescope could miss such objects it could have been a mother ship that released. Some probes in the habitable region around the sun we have a visitor to our backyard we should observe it at first. Professor Loeb now leading the charge to build better arrays of sensors to capture anomalies but saying for now everything is hypothetical and his paper is really meant to remind UFO hunters. to get the laws of physics as much as the reports from military personnel are in Triggy and motivate my work right now I want my instruments to tell me what is really happening.
8:19 Meanwhile more videos surfacing showing odd objects have been leaked to documentary UFO filmmaker Jeremy Corbell who recently released pictures of an orb shaped of a moselle and these images showing a cylinder flying over Iraq. The Pentagon not commenting on the recent videos but confirming prior videos released by Corbell had been filmed by surveyed and edited by scientists. The Pentagon not commenting on the recent videos but confirming prior videos released by Corbell had been filmed by surveyed and edited by scientists. by service members as for what they are definitive explanations remain out of reach dotty schwartz nbc news chris blood says experience probably one of the most dramatic this is something and there's my autoplay that i cannot figure out why it autoplays the next clip i'm not gonna even worry about it right now um so this we didn't actually get to the the seeds that they're calling these things seeds that are coming out of this thing oh my goodness they're speculating out the wazoo but um i'll have to get that that clip in there next time but uh this was from about two weeks ago yes we got joe joe in there joe how are you doing oh i'm good you hear me yes i can hear you okay we were just jumping in just seeing some current news sorry about that oh that's all right all right um they got some strange news coming up here we've been looking at in the discord about how there's potentially motherships in our atmosphere and they they have these things that are coming off of them um this clip that i showed didn't show everything that like has been shown this week but they're just they're trying so hard to speculate about this stuff right now and it's just it's so ridiculous i i wish uh i wish i had that uh other clip in here but i thought i had the right run but it's not but have you seen anything about this joe oh yeah you know if you put it in perspective in the way we've been talking um potentially they are there you know it's just that they're in a realm that's outside of ours right right yeah we're talking they're giving the opportunity to people that have opened themselves up to be able to see what they want to see right yes it's um the good and the bad uh angelic entities is what we're talking about and it's it's what is happening right now is that we're beginning to see the um the manifestation of these things that and they the characteristics of them are not good and we're going to see that tonight as we go about this story oh before you before you continue um i just want to uh this made me think of the um oh what is her name carol she worked with warner von braun um and she was talking about what he told her about the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the about the the progression of events how it was going to be you know the soviet union the nations of concern and then things you know comets or asteroids and then was going to be the extraterrestrials and the part of that video was that uh uh it was that object i'm not even going to try to pronounce the name i think it's a hawaiian name or something like that but they they saw that it had like a hyperbolic orbit so they they inferred that it came from outside of the solar system which is why they were so concerned and interested in it but that's just made me think of you know it kind of come it seems to combine those two things the comet asteroid threat with the alien threat it's like okay maybe this comet thing was spawning alien ships i don't know you know again we don't have the clip but you can see things moving in that direction right yeah and uh and and what's the most amazing part about that whole rosin clip at the very end she says it's all a lie it's all a lie and um i think that was that was fascinating even though she has different beliefs than than what we believe i think it's um it's fascinating that uh she at least knew that this whole thing was a deception so that said again i'm going to power through this tonight and i apologize for sounding like i'm i'm gonna die here i actually feel great it's just my voice is all messed up so uh let's get into uh blood so and the reason why we want to talk about this is because um and most people have never even heard the term blood so before but it's an
12:45 important topic that we need to talk about because jim semivan a former uh officer of the pentagon i believe he's he is absolutely sure that everything he says is true and so what what does the government or at least part of the government believe about this and that's why we're digging into this so i'm going to have you watch this clip from a previous episode just to show uh jim semivan what he what he says about this stuff and then we'll dig into the actual story from the words from his lips and see where where this whole thing is going lady experience probably one of the most dramatic if you hear you know him tell the story it's just absolutely incredible and if you know the man you know you know this is a guy who's about a straight up honest decent human being you could possibly imagine this is just a wonderful wonderful man his children his wife you can't get any better than this they're the all-american family they're just wonderfully good people but chris went through um and i believe every word he tells me and um about this and not only do i believe every word it tells me he attracted the attention of a lot of people dia nasa cia um other agencies everybody wanted to get close to him everybody wanted to get close to him and so that's the reason we're digging into this is because he's given this guy some serious clout just by saying that saying every you know all these different agencies were asking him questions they all have the big characteristics that um that are characteristics of of this event that's happening so they all want to dig into it and so what is it what are these characteristics what was the report that was said what what is the actual story that's what we're going to have any comments before i would get into the story no just that uh yeah the name was totally off my radar and once i heard jim start talking about him i had to check it out i had to know what this is if he believes every word of his story i i think this is a story worth listening to so i'm glad that they they're out there and and telling it now because i believe that they've gone through a lot of things and they've gone through a lot of period of reclusiveness before just from what i've gathered listening to their videos so it's good that they're bringing it out because it does offer an opportunity for us to get in and do some criticism not necessarily mocking them or trying to put them down but just to give fair criticism to the points that they are going to make this evening that is an absolutely fair and um accurate statement i wanted to bring up just before we end the story because um that we're not trying to be critical of anyone anybody they've had some real struggles with the church and the church being what they say very critical of what they have seen and witnessed and i mean let's give them credit where credit's due that's honestly the church isn't too fond of ufos and people that uh don't like the church are fond that are fond of aliens that usually those these two don't go together and for good reason there's characteristics that don't match and so it's not that people that are looking into this stuff are are ousted by the churches but there are things that need to be addressed while we're looking into these these characteristics that need to be understood and so let's look at it through a critical eye look at it through the bible they say themselves that they are christians so let's look at it from the bible to see what actually happened here and that's the whole point of what we're trying to do everybody and i think everybody who is christian who believes that there is a god needs to look at it through this this angle and deserves to at least know both sides of the story if they have only one um something to keep in mind guys is uh you may not have heard of this case because it's it's 15 years old uh when they first started so you know it was really big back up around 2007 2008 and then you know everything kind of died off with him but it's it's still one of those that we want to keep on a radar you know one thing being around us for 30 years now is a lot of people don't go back and look at the history look at the major historical cases that have happened over the
17:36 years there's a lot of information to be gleaned from those cases but you know new new people come to this phenomenon and start looking at it and they look at what's there now they don't look they don't take the time to go back and look at you know what's already happened what information have we gleaned from the past and this is one of those cases where we do need to go back and hang on to it because there's some major important things that are going to show up here just like a lot of the cases from the betty andreason case that goes back you know almost 30 years you know and even the betty barney hill case they go back almost 50 years you know so they're they're we can't just let those cases go because they're old we have to keep them on the radar because important information was gleaned from those and we have to weigh that information against what we're seeing now yeah yeah yeah a lot of characteristics match and then we have to not only wait but what we see now but how the bible what the bible says and what the uh what's happening in the future well here's something interesting just before we move on joe i don't know if you're aware of this but just last month i believe it was uh chris bledsoe he released a book called ufo of god he's yeah i know that there was originally this i'm sure a bigger thing like i said there was a period of reclusiveness but now he's kind of emerging back out and it actually went to number one on faith and religion on amazon did it so it did yeah it's considered to be a book uh i think that the blood so name is going to be important maybe you mentioned some other landmark cases but i think this is a family that's alive and well and they seem to be very well connected and they seem to be very outspoken about what they believe this is and it's also so this just highlights the importance of talking about it because like you said brad the church isn't doing this and there's even you know i know there's other ministerial channels out there who they're doing a good work they're doing a good ministry but like you know part of mikey jenny's testimony why he went into the occult is because he started looking the church didn't have answers so when you want to find answers you're going to go to whoever seems to have answers so you know obviously the blood so is putting out a book there's no shortage of new age information or ufo type information that is not biblical and if there's nobody out there talking about this stuff from the biblical perspective that's where people are going to go and that's not you know what's where they should be going so right yeah yeah he said that they had answers and they had a proof too and the church would just like no that's that's not what the that's not what the bible says and they couldn't pull a verse for him and so that's the danger christians not knowing their bible so we need to know our bible and have an answer when someone asks and so that's the point of this channel so who wants to dig into this story i do okay let's do it here we go in 2007 balls of fire come out of the sky right and took me away you have to understand why they came you know why did they come i understand why they came because i was at the lowest point in my life at that point yeah and uh was was out crying out for for help from above and that's my whole mindset that's where i was and they came so knowing that um that immediately um gave me a perception of something other than some alien from so what so what you're saying is if i'm just being clear on this you you had the immediate sense that they answered your prayers yes your inner thoughts yeah in your mind you cried out for help and they actually came because to me i mean pure common sense some little green man from mars sitting in a spinning frisbee wouldn't necessarily hear your thoughts 30 miles up in the sky hovering in space that just sounds ridiculous how would they have known your thoughts they wouldn't i mean the scientists say well they have tele telepathy right but it's um it's not that way they hear everything you think and know what you're gonna think before you think it but like you know being being in a pentecostal really deep in southern baptist family and then having a dad get taken by light beings and then you know a year later started talking about reincarnation and yeah all this different spiritual stuff it was it was a pretty like interesting household to say the least it had to have been they changed they literally just changed him yeah they changed
22:31 his whole outlook on everything overnight i was walking up a hill away from my son and uh three friends that were working for my dad at that time and i didn't i came back a different person um i walked up the hill and walked up on these big glowing balls of fire not flying saucers not uh aliens with ray guns i've never seen anything like that it was it was truly a spiritual thing um i was calling out prayer because i was sick and i had gone through a new life and i was like i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die experience which is all in this book um this book is about is more of a memoir or novel than the typical ufo book but they got my attention that night and um i i was so excited that it all happened and and soon found out that the community wasn't very excited and the churches and my friends and all they kind of ostracized me and labeled me crazy and um made it hard for my whole entire family so let's recap what he just said he said a lot uh right there and we didn't really get far into the story but what we can definitely say right now is that it was surely a spiritual experience um and that a lot of people say that it's it's a ufo's you see these giant lights in the sky But he's saying it's, I mean, I have to say, yeah, sure. I believe that this is a spiritual experience.
24:24 Yeah, sure. He probably did see balls of fire. I mean, that's what we see in the Bible when angels are described. The star of Bethlehem over Bethlehem and all this stuff. He says, but this is where it gets weird. He said he came back a different person and started talking about reincarnation. Reincarnation? So it changed his whole spiritual aspect. Things that didn't fly with the Bible, he took what they said instead of what is in the Bible. There's where the rubber meets the road, friends. Are you going to believe what the Bible says or what your experience says? This is what we've always said on the channel. What do you guys think? Well, it should be pointed out that, unfortunately, many so-called Christian denominations do hold to this. And it's the Roman Catholic. And then if you go even further. It's the ancient pagan belief of the immortality of the soul.
25:19 So any Christian denomination. I don't know what denomination he was. I don't even know where he lived. Pentecostal, I believe. Okay. So do they teach immortality of the soul? I don't know much about it. They do? Yeah, I'm like 99% sure. Okay. So if you're in a denomination like that, you're already primed to receive something like reincarnation. Because it's a variation of the immortality of the soul doctrine. Wow. Wow. Think about that. Because in immortality of the soul, you don't die. Just like in reincarnation, you don't die. You change into a different form. Huh. Interesting. Yeah. I can see that. He said he was praying to it. Now, a lot of Christians have said, well, since he was praying, doesn't that mean he was good?
26:06 Can Satan answer prayers? Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it's not his first so-called speech. It's not his first spiritual experience either. You know, his near-death experience was his first spiritual experience. Ah. I think we need to go back and look at what he talks about after coming out of that near-death experience. I believe that's probably where you're going to find the foundation of what he believes to be based on as he goes into this further experience. And, you know, we've talked about this on other shows, Bradley, where, you know, he's a Christian. You know, he's a Christian. It's a good possibility that this near-death experience and the abduction experience is one and the same. Well, he mentioned that it was a traumatic event.
27:02 I find that interesting. Maybe you know a little bit more about it than I do, Joe, because there's been mentionings from Chris and his son. By the way, in that clip, the younger man is named Ryan Bledsoe, and the older gentleman is Chris. Right. Just so everyone knows, in the introduction, but they've mentioned the river a couple of times. Did he have a near-death experience there? Did he almost drown? Do you know if that was the case? I don't know enough about the near-death experience, but I would definitely take a look there a lot deeper because I do believe there's a foundation where he has opened the door somewhere and that's probably where this has come from. You know, whatever he was, he had taken away from him. Mm-hmm. from that experience is going to set his foundation of belief from then on and and that's something i would look at here you know most definitely the one thing that i was catching attention you know because i look at everything that's going on around him is if you go back and look at the pictures he's got up on the wall or right there yeah you know uh that's a lot of new age stuff why is that stuff posted up there at his home you know you really need to look at the things that the signs he's given us you know out on the out on the edges um i think a little deeper i i think well i think it's because he's actually already believing what these beings have said and looking further into these ideas and so that's why he has all this stuff on them but i think we're going to get to that point uh so like we've always stuff stuff comes down to the message in the end so the stuff on the walls this is hilarious because like we're entering the bledsoe verse right now what you were seeing that that little set is actually the son ryan's uh podcast kind of youtube show he does a weekly show kind of like we do here and all of the stuff that you were seeing in the background that comes from the son now in an interview between the son and the father chris has said he is not into any of the esoteric stuff he doesn't really know any new age doctrine he just goes off of what the entities talk to him about his personal experiences and strangely enough he also says the bible is something that he bases his beliefs off of but not necessarily i believe a correct interpretation of the bible but ryan seems to pride himself on having esoteric occult knowledge and he displays it very blatantly i mean he has uh they have an episode 33 and it's 33 3 is a magic number and it's like him and his co-host both holding up three uh you know and we all anyone who has done any brief study of freemasonry knows that 33 is it's the highest degree of freemasonry at that point you know that you're worshiping lucifer crazy stuff so it'd be interesting to know just how much ryan knows because i've never heard him flat out mention lucifer that would be interesting because a lot of these people in the deeper new age circles they know that it's lucifer because they call him the light bearer and they say he's a good guy because he's the light bearer well he's not bearing his own light he was bearing god's light and he failed at that job because he became so puffed up with pride that now he's known as satan so anyway just wanted to clear the air on that yeah that set is is the sun not the father son fascinating yeah so this next part he's going to go a little deeper into what he's going to be talking about in the next part of the episode so let's get started um actually happened during that experience with these balls of fire let's check it out i'm enjoying my voice from the start dad was like i it was an angelic experience and his original report and his like
30:59 right up in 2008 to move on he said i feel the experience was angelic and like there's been this whole thing about like he changed his story yeah first he said it was aliens then he said his angels like no he you know from the start he said it was angelic and bro i can tell you that the night that you and jeremy told me about the experiences and stuff you were already immediately telling me like dad says they're angels like dad dad says they're like light beings they're not like like actual little aliens yeah like i immediately right off the bat y'all were y'all were saying like i remember that night immediately the first night you guys telling me that yeah like that from the whole like that's never changed yeah because i remember telling my parents about it and the way that i told them about it was like it's not like an alien thing it's it's angels he says it's angels you know yeah i remember it vividly there was no changing of the story i describe it to people the same exact way too yeah i'm like yeah they they think it's angelic and so church people don't like aliens and aliens or an alien people don't like church people so that's the that's the problem yeah that's the problem like the church people hated us because they thought it was like demonic alien shit the alien people hate they were the worst yeah well maybe the church people were the worst but like the alien people hated us because they didn't like the spiritual shit and like we we were like literally in the bullseye target of controversy in the subject dad maintained that they were these angelic beings they appeared as these glowing figures and they told dad that they serve creation they are the guardians they didn't say the word angel they just gave him the impression right right you know they said that they work with creation yes that was the words they use we are the guardians of creation and we tend to humankind or we tend to earth like a terrarium like a garden and we maintain evolution throughout time and make sure that like you guys don't if they kill each other well not just that but it's like from what these beings explained to my dad if they didn't throughout the eons like guide our actual evolutionary process we would mutate out of control and die off wow wow what do you think about that yeah there's nothing to say about god's angels in that little story exactly yeah so you got so to recap we got um his his son this is uh blood so's son uh saying hey uh in the original port he says it's angelic and then the angels give him a narrative and saying you know we are the uh we didn't say angels but we are the uh the thing that takes care of this place like a terrarium we are are looking after you that sounds very sweet doesn't it it sounds like a terrarium yeah it sounds like a good beings that have done so much for us and um i'm sure the way these things see it i mean we're gonna look we're gonna see the characteristics of these uh terrarium caretakers here pretty soon but um at least until this part if something like that came to you you would have to stop and say are you for them or are you for them you know as as uh um uh joshua said right are you who are you for here and uh if they said well we're the caretakers i mean how could you tell you got to test the spirits right well another giveaway they were saying in their message is they were all about the creation not the creator you know there was no mention of the creator at all this is the same thing we hear in almost all of communication uh between these beings and contactees or abductees uh you know the same messages came out in the book and they were all about the creation not the creator and the schoolyard incident in zimbabwe those children were getting messages from those beings almost identical you know it was all about the creation itself it was all about the planet it was all about you know us killing each other off because of what we were doing nothing mentioning the creator at all right right 100 and so since we're all about you know scripture first john 4 uh one through three beloved believe not every spirit but try the spirits whether they are of god because many false prophets are gone out into the world hereby know ye the spirit of god every spirit that confesses confesseth that jesus christ is come in the flesh is of god and every spirit that confesseth not that jesus christ is come in the flesh is not of god and this is that spirit of antichrist where of ye have heard that it should come and even now already is it in the world so um scripture is very specific and there are very that's that's what um well it's part of god's
35:56 greatness is he's given us very specific things to test uh and the very clear signs as to how we'll know what is and what is not from him right and so go ahead go ahead matt i was just gonna say that scripture it's funny because i can already see the the script being flipped on us talking about jesus coming in the flesh and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and that that if you don't profess that then you're antichrist i believe that satan will eventually manifest as the antichrist he'll come and he'll claim to be jesus and he'll perform miracles on the face of the earth and we're going to be the ones who stand there and say hey this is not the real jesus read your bible when jesus comes back the world ends that's what it is there's going to be a new heaven and a new earth that's what's described and i can just see that whole reinterpretation of the bible it's definitely going to come down because that's what satan did in the first place when he tempted jesus he tried to use scripture he tried to misrepresent the scriptures to him to get him to sin against god and he wouldn't do it because he knew the scriptures better than what he was being told by the enemy and that's our responsibility that's our job we can't fall into that same trap what i think is fascinating is that um just like joe said in the beginning uh the characteristic one of the characteristics that we see is that uh this lady appears just like to the kids in zimbabwe zimbabwe was it and also to zimbabwe what was the other one fatma where the lady appears again so this lady keeps appearing do it what's what's fascinating about that to me is that nowhere in scripture do we see god's angels appear as ladies i think that's interesting i'm saying anything sexist about that understand what i'm saying that satan loves to play sides and so he's going to be like i'm gonna appear as something else if you're gonna appear as this and so let's let's look in that a little bit further what are the characteristics of this lady um well first let's find out if the lady appears the blood so check this out and so five years later the next monumental thing was i was ready to give up and then the lady comes at easter on easter of 2012 well big reveal right there i wonder if the lady comes she does she does and um the characteristics of this lady we're going to find out here pretty soon are fascinating so let's look into this the characteristics before we say anything else because that was just a short clip oh first let's talk about um the lady from uh jim semi ben's point of view not only do i believe every word it tells me he attracted the attention of a lot of people dia nasa cia um other agencies everybody wanted to get close to him everybody wanted to know as much as information as they possibly can because his experience in it took in not only in europe but he had an opportunity to get around the country and and home but also uh uh jim semi ben uh the queen of the queen of the queen of the queen of the kings um of the kings um um uh so he's his uh own audience and um uh um um oh so um um very much um i i i will tell you that in some circles it's taken very very seriously um but um it hasn't been explored um the catholic church looked at it you know because a lot of the sightings you know medjugorje um um you know fatima uh lords uh you know they were all the appeared um you know nobody that was none of the children that saw any of this they ever claimed it was it was a virgin mary it was it was just the lady it was just a lady who showed up right and uh i doubt the virgin mary had blonde hair and blue eyes she was a medic um so and and of course
40:43 you know the lady would lie and the lady you know um would scare the living hell out of them and um you know fire and brimstone sometimes sometimes lovely messages a typical a typical uh you know abduction scenario where where these beings you know uh come to people and they tell them stories they have a line about the you know the environment and um things along those lines but they're generally um they generally there's a trickster element to it there is a um a physical uh not very nice physical element to it there's a very strong sexual element to it um uh it's uh it's not i mean sexual is homoerotic in some cases uh it's and i don't i don't know what the hell you make of that uh you know i have no idea well jim semivan former government official i do know what to make of that let's recap what he just said lady would lie the lady would scare them the lady would uh give them a sexual arousal sometimes homoerotic uh and it would tell them uh stories about the end of the world now let's let's look at the bible what do we see we do actually see some parts of the bible where good angels come to people and make them faint daniel if you remember daniel he came to him gave him a lot of information and daniel couldn't couldn't stand it fainted and he had to come back later on to give him the rest of the story but did he lie did he scare him did he cause a lot of trouble did he cause a lot of trouble did he cause a lot of trouble did he cause a lot of trouble sexual arousal for this thing i don't think the angels that the lady if these are the characteristics of the lady are necessarily good and i don't know how they can say these are any good that's my two cents yeah i think it's a a bit of any of that evil and you already know just to throw it out it's no good it doesn't doesn't speak from uh the place of the scriptures and it's weird that people have had these different experiences and they've had these different experiences and they've had these different experiences and they've had these different experiences with the lady in particular it makes you kind of wonder what's going on behind the scenes is it just a costume that they all kind of put on or is it like one demonic being that its job is to just go and be the lady i don't know i wonder that as far as what their whole weird plan is but there's definitely this weird aspect because if you know about paganism it's not they have their own trinity but it's father mother child and they're the female element plays massively into pagan occult religions interesting so this appearing of the lady you gotta figure that this is kind of what it's leaning towards and pushing towards and if people get into the lady and they start to incorporate that into their belief system it's just pushing them further and further away from god's worship system any other thoughts no we got some interesting stuff here coming up because what's what's happening after this is we're going to hear exactly what the lady told them also we're going to we're going to hear exactly uh what they felt as they went back to their church community to relay these angelic messages to them this is what's happening next uh my family had been basically um isolated and mocked mocked and made fun of abused yeah my children were by those there uh some of my own family members some of them were the worst when you would think they would be there to to support you in hell well uh it was everyone there's a few people that came in the community that wanted to tell us that they'd had experiences but for the most part i felt so bad about what had happened that my children were coming home crying from having kids pick on them at school the whole class laugh at them uh calling their dad crazy so i was ready to quit i was ready to give up and never talk about this thing ever again and so that's what i did on um saturday night in april uh 2012 uh it was the night of easter right morning was easter and then this beautiful lady came in and she said i'm going to go to the church and i'm going to go to
45:31 and um she said you're not going to quit this is not what you're going to do this is your burden you must bear and i'm giving you a summary of kind of a nut in the shell of what happened there because i i walked out that night and i shouted up to the heavens i'm done with you i'm never going to do this again i'm so tired of seeing my children suffer wow it's all my fault you know and what do you is that you think that's what you're going to do i'm going to do this again just fear from people people afraid of believing in that yeah um not understanding not knowing not wanting to mess with their paradigm um not wanting to mess with their paradigm because they saw the lady okay so let's look at it just before we chat about it let's look at it from a different perspective on chris's son's side of the story from what he heard his father say and then so we get both both ideas here check this out a lot of these orbs you know it's like when you see them in the sky and you guys have seen them plenty of times it's like cool you know you're sort of desensitized to it but then when they come real close it's not that you're scared but it's that they literally and i mean literally they invoke a physical reaction from the body i've experienced this many times like you know being touched by one and seeing them in the room and very close by and seeing them in the house the sometimes i've never seen one like up close that would be it's it's not scary it's intense right i've got i don't want to downplay it right but for someone who's never seen it if you want to get the feeling it's kind of like like looking at wild animals on tv and looking at wild animals from afar think maybe like a bird of prey right you see it in the sky it's like whoa but then if you like walk up on an eagle you're like to me to me the only good point is that you're not going to the only ordinary experience in my life and experiencing this many times the orb thing that has ever come close to the physical sensation is like if you're in traffic and you have a very dangerous near miss and you like almost just died that's what it feels like to see an oracle like you know like takes your breath it takes you literally it yanks your breath away and like this orb is flying from the woods over the water and dad fell to his knees he's like you know like like praying like like you know he's fucking beholding this thing yeah and it it gets brighter and it starts flying over the water and it gets halfway over the water and he he's so like in awe and in shock he thinks he's recording but he wasn't for 18 minutes he sat there or for like nine minutes or so he sat there and he watched it and as it got over the wall and this all happens it starts vibrating up and down 10 feet like imagine a 10-foot line this orb's going fast and it's changing colors it's like orange red yellow it's just like rapidly changing these colors really fast and blinking and then it's like you know when you go to like theme parks and disney world and shit and you see those little toys that like they're electronic and you push the button and it spins and it's like there's a laser image in it yeah it did that and like it starts going so fast that it's like solid and out of that line materialized a beam and it like it didn't have a face it was made of pure light it had like you know it was kind of anthropomorphic like head arms legs and it spoke to him and it said basically um you know you've stayed true to your story you've never faltered and now we're moving into phase two there's going to be troubling times ahead the world is entering the phase what is known as like the tribulation and um just continue to tell your story your family's going to be blessed for what you've done and we're going to bring you cameras and witnesses and give you undeniable proof to show to the world to to kind of like help you so that you don't have to struggle with this anymore and you know all that's kind of been coming true yeah he goes on to talk about the pandemic he goes on to talk about a lot of things but um let's not uh take what these things say and let's not say as gospel truth because we don't we these things are as far as we understand it right now lying spirits and so just because they say hey we have entered the tribulation does not mean we have entered the tribulation let the bible say that not us not them what do you guys think about those two stories so far kind of it kind of you know when we get to heaven and find out we're going to
50:29 get a lot of information and answers to questions that we don't have now um that we can only speculate on and one of the things that i think is like the things that these fallen angels are doing and the light shows they're putting on and the manifestations and all that somehow i can't help but think that they're just parlor tricks like they're no more difficult uh for them than us moving a glass of water across the table you know what i mean but we think because we don't have that technology or ability it's this great thing but then when we see the actual power of god that's when we're going to know you know okay this is going to be a real thing um because right now that's not really christ hasn't returned yet he hasn't come in the clouds with glory like he said he would and so it's going to be undeniable when he does but now again people not knowing the bible and not knowing what to look for they see these things and take them at face value and it does you know scripture says they are going to work satan and his demons are going to work legit miracles miracles um just before christ returns that he's going to have the power to do it in the sight of the beast scripture tells us so if you don't again know your bible get into the word of god because that's the only thing that's going to save us absolutely absolutely yeah yeah i agree with you there i've been saying this for years now that this is not a technology at all that we're seeing it's just that the secular mind has to use that concept of it has to be some type of technology because they don't believe in the spirit realm they don't believe that there's beings that have ability to do these kind of performances and i think all we're seeing here with like you said the part of the tricks they pull off is just their natural ability right as an angelic being that they can do you know they can appear as whatever it takes for us to be deceived or to be comforted you know i'm not sure that the angels that appeared in the bible were that was their original you know what they look like but they appeared to man in the spirit realm and they appeared to man to be able to be comforting to relay a message for god we do know that but these beings everything they they appear as is other than something that's comforting you know and scientists are looking at this and going uh well this must be some other type of physics we don't know about yet you know because they have they don't have the the language or the uh the belief to understand that there are spiritual entities that live in the spirit realm and they're living in the spirit realm and they're living in a different realm you know agreed this is just a natural ability of these beings and something i've talked about over the years is you know for every case that's ever been looked at there's no two beings that look alike you know from case to case there's no two craft that look alike from case to case these are things that any normal person doing research would go hey uh i got a question here you know that doesn't make sense you know if this has been going on for hundreds of thousands of cases you know where nothing seems to be the same you know that doesn't make any sense at all and the reason for that is is because they're tailor-fitting the experience right to hook that person it's what it takes to have that person to believe them right that's why we're seeing and also with go ahead go ahead just i have one sentence cubes with orbs in them or actually was it spheres with cubes on the outside on one side of the continent you see you see uh these these uh what are they called uh tic tacs on the other side of the continent and people are calling whether ufos over here and their cubes over here it's taylor fit to grab the attention of the pilot go for it well and if you look at the uh what is spoken of of god's uh you know the unfallen righteous angels in the bible they're always on a mission they're here to deliver a message so yeah they can comfort people and you know anytime anybody's fallen down to worship them they've said no don't do that i i am not to be worshiped you worship the father um but they they deliver their message they do what god has sent them to do and they leave they don't just show up and do some enigmatic dance or light show or whatever and then just bail and let you just make of it what you will like they share they do what they do and they follow the instructions because they're faithful they follow the instructions and that's the exact opposite of what these you know ufos and uaps or these entities um that the blood cells are interacting with they're doing the exact opposite i think just
55:19 talking about the fact that these are like parlor tricks that they're just an innate ability that the angels have i think it's really interesting because yeah eventually when we're either raised and given immortality or we're there is going to be a moment where satan is brought low and i just want to share that with everyone it's from isaiah and it's isaiah 14 uh 15 is where it begins yet thou shalt be brought down to hell to the sides of the pit talking about satan they that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee and consider thee saying is this the man that made the earth to tremble that did shake kingdoms that made the world as a wilderness and destroyed the desert by itsCC before its god стillä الام ماء temptation and hypnotism and sin he's just like a worm we're gonna end up looking at him and this is it this is this is the one that caused so much trouble for us it's amazing that eventually we'll be afforded that moment i think that's it's a really cathartic thing that god allows to say yeah i know he's caused you so much trouble every terrible thing you've heard this is the father of it and look at him look at him now look at him compared to what i have and we're going to see that of all these angels so right now yeah maybe it's a little scary for some people to see that they can manifest and do these types of things do not worry god is infinitely more powerful you know one of the things i think is uh um uh characteristic is the attacking of uh anything that is in an authority or trying to truly figure out the truth and um that's what we're gonna see next because not only um are have they said that hey these things are good but they're also starting to attack mufon mufon is just trying to figure out and understand what's happening by volunteers across the nation we have a mufon director with us tonight joe jordan uh and uh we i would like him to hear what they had to say about this so we can give a little bit of perspective on what in the world is going on uh because they talk a little bit about the story and how as it pertains to mufon check this out that's what happened to us when when uh they came and investigated the case they they did a hack job on us mufon yeah they did it intentionally and i know they did i have proof of it and it nearly destroyed my family for all those years and um but we we managed will you stay true your word yeah i never i never wavered i told them then in 2008 when they came there that there were angels and they're like well this is just too much for us they didn't want to hear that and right away here i'm in now in a position to where i have my family and our community basically ostracizing us isolating us and now the people that i called for help to to help make sense of what happened as ostracized us so here we are alone left to the wolves and so i started going out every night of my life and talking to the heavens and and asking you know why did you do this why don't we come back can't you come back why did you do this and leave me in this position wow and i did that every night until i just shouted out i quit and that's when this beautiful lady showed up the easter sunday morning and said oh no i'm here because you're not going to quit um we're going to help you she said i'm going to help you um with witnesses and with your camera in other ways and as long as you do this i'll be beside you and help you and so i agreed and within what two weeks after that you and i were sitting in ashville yeah at a conference so in 2013 this gentleman's name is norm gagnon he was one of the very first mufon reporters on the case and then he was you know kicked to the he was the second reporter and then he was kicked to the curb and then they brought in the documentary crew the government people and his question to dad in this article that he wrote in the mufon journal in 2013 was do you believe your entity
1:00:31 messages contradict or support your religious faith dad's answer was this is the question of all questions one that will be front and center in all of our lives soon the question is no longer do they exist we have to move past this everywhere people see the ufos the question now is who are they more more pertinently i was born and raised as a christian and at one time i was even a deacon in the church i had to say my faith was severely scrambled for the longest time beginning from the day of the abduction but i can now say i believe in christ even more but in a different way the experience i had was i believe to be of a divine experience like ezekiel's wheel within the wheel i will say this i was given a divine message that i intend to tell to all who will listen who all will listen what was that so they said they came to him and they said no you're not going to quit we're going to help you with your camera and we're going to help you and we're going going to put you in places where that we you can share this what are they sharing they're trying to get him to show more that they are available they're coming out and appearing so that people can come to them because they want worship that's what isaiah 14 12 says and so that's what's happening right now um we are we are in the midst of what uh an old cultist and i play this clip over and over again you know the clip i'm gonna play but for blood so and everyone that needs to see this and that hasn't seen it yet i'm gonna show you this is what a former cultist said watch this and the priest told us could i have a little bit more your time i want to do something very fascinating he says the grain plain the master's grain plain for harvesting the nations for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the greek controversy between the forces of good and evil so he continued after we express ourselves we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits and he said it's going to be done in a unique manner this this grain plan says it's going to take people people are going to eat the stuff because he says spirits demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless property is done to avoid it and so i think it's interesting that he says these ufos we have to know what they are how do you know what they are you're going to go out at night and scream at the sky and say hey come help me that's exactly what they want you to do you know brad it's funny it occurred to me if this was a catholic broadcast then roger morneau would be the patron saint of strange normal well the reason why i use him so much is because he so blatantly says it i mean people have said it too but i can't get but writings and stuff like that on it but the fact they had him on video saying it we have we have we have information on this and um i'm realizing that we say this once i might say in the documentary starfall which if you haven't seen that go to starfallmovie.com and watch it right now but i'm noticing most of my people that watch these videos are not subscribers so that means a lot of people are coming in and going what is this and they're filtering out and going out the back door and they're filtering out the back door and they're filtering out the back door so i need to show this i need to show as much information about what's going on as in each video and i can't just rely on a yeah you saw that a month ago when i showed it to you but yeah you're absolutely right we we do we do hinge on morneau a little bit well something interesting about that interview is i think that interview was what is in the 90s but the events that those are talking about took place in the 40s right when he got after world war ii ended and so that's before the space race and he laid out you know he's he's recalling his experience and it was laid out to him by this satanic high priest that there's gonna be aliens there's gonna be all this different stuff um so i think i think that's pretty pretty interesting um something i wanted to ask joe about this blood so clip is about the i guess they seem to have had a pretty negative experience with mufon i know you said it was you know 15 years or so ago but what what attitudes i guess have you run into in your mufon that you think might have they might have encountered that led to this and have have things changed at all since you've been doing your your ce4 research uh project great question i would have gotten the same i get the same attitude that he got when he brings his in for when he brought
1:05:17 his information out and when i bring mine out um you know he's he's blasting mufon for for not working with him and not bringing him forward you know to light and uh not listening to him not dealing with him and you know i don't blame mufon for that i think they were in there right for what they did and what they said um they're not they're not set up to investigate that type of you know um event keep in mind mufon's foundation is the scientific investigation of ufos that's what mufon is about it's called the mutual ufo network you know not the the mutual paranormal network it's not that um everything has to be looked at from a scientific basis scientific point of view um and when a guy comes forward like myself and says i think these are angelic beings as we see in scripture um just not the ones that you know we're used to hearing about uh of course you know they don't want to talk to me about that either um even though i've had the opportunity to talk to in person to five different um international directors over the past 30 years i even had a conversation with walt andrews himself about my research back in 98 i think it was before he passed away he was the founder of mufon and i've had an opportunity to share my work share my findings and you know the response i get and these are like i said these are the in the international executive directors of mufon at the time they all agreed that i had done the work properly in in in the way that i went about gathering the findings and the results that i got it's just that mufon wasn't set up to address those issues you know the way that i went about gathering the findings and the results that i got it's just that mufon wasn't set up to address those issues you know the way that i went about gathering the findings and the results that i got words uh there was even the one of the last ones i talked to you know he says i'd love to have you speak at a symposium but i just don't know how we put this talk together you know that would fit in and not upset everybody you know because it's not the way this is this is this is not the way that mufon is organized to look at things you know they're still having trouble looking at the abduction experience they have uh an um an abduction team you know that's quite established now and they're trying to look figure out a way to look at it but looking at the abduction scenario is is outside of everything that they were originally organized to do this is why I had to take it to the side myself and form ce4 because I couldn't do it under the name of MUFON MUFON had no basis for me to work with so I had to do it myself and people that would work with me and then just make sure that our findings were made available for anybody to look at you know and you know decide for themselves which I've always done it's always been made public so I don't see you know that MUFON did anything wrong I think flat-out they should have said anything you know about why they didn't make the decision at the beginning and if they did by any chance you know coax him on for a period I think that was the wrong thing at all to bring it bring it to light at all because it wasn't in their avenue of what they do keep in mind also that the first guy that came to him was a local field investigator that was called on the scene because that's how of what happens um we have we have a mufon website and on that website there's a link that says report a ufo if you yourself want to report a ufo you click on that link first thing it's going to tell you is if you see anything like this picture don't file a report and that picture is a picture of ellen muss uh starlink you know because too many reports are coming in for that so they'll tell you right up front if you see anything looks like this don't even bother uh we know what this is so that helped out after they did that but you will go in and you'll put all the information down the person that comes out to see you though is going to be based on where you're located because we have state directors in every state we have state section directors which is under them
1:10:20 that are over county or county like myself i'm i'm a state section director for brevard county florida um if it's in brevard county it's going to come down to my level and it's going to say hey you got a report and i can either do go out and follow up or i can send out one of my field investigators under me to do the report so that's how that comes out you don't get top of the top of the line guy to come down and do the report and who knows their training because keep in mind that mufon is a voluntary organization none of us get paid for this you know i've spent money over the years driving hundreds and hundreds of miles to follow up on a report i thought was worth following up on if i can deal with it by phone and save the money believe me i will because i'm not going to get reimbursed for any of this it's just what we have this is all we have to deal with mufon on that aspect uh no that was you know i can see it he wasn't getting the coverage he wanted and and that's the key what he wanted yeah to him this was a big thing but to move on this wasn't a big thing to them there wasn't anything here that they could work on maybe some pictures that he had maybe some video if he had those but he wanted to push the angelic thing you know and they're not going there they're still dealing with extraterrestrial biological entities at that time they weren't even looking into the interdimensional aspect like they are now um but now he can bash them all they want but i see nothing in that it was wrong in what they did uh if he was mistreated i that's a no-no you know you don't do that but uh i just don't think he got what he was wanting from them the comment he made that he the the person that he thought they he should reach out to for help was mufon totally wrong people if you're experiencing this stuff in any manner mufon's not there to help you you're there to help mufon right because we need your information to help us put this thing together to find the answer not the other way around i ran into that the first time i got into this and started holding mufon up and i was like oh my god i'm not going to see mufon i'm going to see mufon in my monthly meetings i had you know traumatized abductees showing up saying hey you know can you help us thinking we were the gurus on you know ufology uh no we're here to listen to your story so you can help us figure out what this is uh yeah talk about disappointing all the way around but sadly that's the way it is you know it wasn't until i was able to get this all figured out you know and the research that i've been doing and you know i'm not going to be able to get this all figured out you know and the research that i've been doing and I've done that where you can actually help people, you know, that things have been able to change.
1:13:27 It's just, I don't know. It's like, you know, I still got the church. It's not supporting the work that I do. And I still have MUFON not supporting the work that I do. I mean, I've tried to become part of their, you know, their experiencer team. If they're trying to help people on that side, you know, what, by taking your $600, $700 for hypnotic regression, you know, and then guide you over to a, you know, and then guide you over to a support group so you can whine on each other's shoulders. That's no help. We all know that. But I bring to them hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of testimonials of people who've had their lives taken back through Jesus Christ. The experience stopped. But because it's only under one name, I can't play. Interesting. Wow. Yeah. So to your credit, Joe, because I know I've listened to your, one of your interviews with Brad before you mentioned like hippie Bob was a good example, right? Who was having, who's having an issue with them and he came to you and because you had the spiritual background and you knew what this was, you were able to pray for him. You were able to get him the real help that he needs. But another MUFON person would have been like, um, okay, sir, I'm just, I got my clipboard. Exactly. Oh, that's a shame because I imagine people who go through this experience, it is traumatizing. And not only that, but it seems that the pattern is victims of trauma then experience these things and it further traumatizes them. Now I can attest to that. I had a traumatic period in my life, probably one of the saddest times I'd been most scared times I've ever been. And I was, had a major brush in with, um, demonic forces, not alien forces, never mistook them for UFOs or anything like that. I, I came to the realization, this is real demonic evil, something. And the only way that I was delivered from it was throwing myself at Jesus's feet and man, did he deliver, I mean, instant delivery. But I think it's interesting that we, I think we all have a responsibility, everyone who's watching this channel. And if you're a Christian get educated on this. And I think it's safe to become known as someone who says, yeah, you know, aliens out there, they're demonic beings. People might laugh at you. People might think you're ridiculous, but what about that one person who has that experience? And they say, wait, did you, who said that? They said that they're demon. Can I talk to them? Do you have their phone number? Do you have their email? Can I get in touch with this person? Do they know anything more about this? Because there are, I'm sure many lost souls who just haven't put the pieces together and who can blame them? It's such a, it's a strange thing to have happen to you.
1:16:23 And you need this, I think reinforcement, you need a strong Christian background to come in and say, hey, let's make sense of this. And let me bring you to the one who can actually help. Speaking of the trauma before we go on to any more commentary, check this out real quick. This is a good segue into that. And when that first happened, that experience with the lady, did you immediately feel your emotions change? A hundred percent. Really? Nick, it was after that, that dad began to just unprompted. He would just cry and cry and cry. And there was like a year where he would just uncontrollable. It was like. It unlocked something. It unlocked something in him. Yeah. And they're actually in the intelligence community that was coming to our house over and over all those years. They had a kind of like an inside joke, Chris, the crier. Really? Yeah. But it was like an endearing thing. Of course. It just was so emotional to him. The experience of seeing her and meeting her, it just unlocked. Yeah. It unlocked those emotions in him. I cried for five, six years. Yeah. Wow. I still do when I talk about it. Yeah. So I think it's interesting that it made him cry. It caused a lot of emotion, a lot of, um, what did you say? It was a, a, a very, um, traumatic experience. And not only that was a very traumatic experience, but he also had another thing that happened to him. So before we start any commentary on this, uh, check this out. This is another example.
1:17:52 Hang on. Yeah. Sure. Before we get off of it, we're, we're right on it right now. And I want people to miss it. You know, when you brought up the point that you were at, uh, you know, a low point in your life is when the demonic was starting to attack you. You know, the thing is that's, this is something we see where prior trauma leads to this experience in the abduction realm and in other aspects of the paranormal realm. Whether it be ghosts or other. Yeah. Okay. And so I think it's, I think it's, I things too the reason i see that is because when people have been traumatized by family or by whatever things in life that have put them and bring them all the way down to that low level they blame god you know they have a tendency to blame god for being in that position so when something like this happens to them they think that finally god's listening to them oh but that's the mistake they don't judge there's no judgment at that time because they're so low and they're so beat down that anything that reaches out with an answer has got to be something worth listening to and that's that that's how they get to that hook with these people it's also worth noting that the trauma um and this is part of like public record declassified you know you look at programs like mk ultra where they're trying to to create assassins and things like that you know they're trying to you know they're trying to you know they're trying to that and other and really what they're doing is doing um satanic like occult things to people and that breaks down the people i think they call it dissociative states or it creates multiple personalities that they can then manipulate so that's what we don't have a full understanding of our own psychology or mind satan has a better under god of course has the understanding but you know fallen angels are angels they've watched us get created so they know us better than we do and trauma seems to be a way that it just breaks us and if the trauma is is big enough um and you don't know again if you don't know where to turn if you if you go undergo trauma and you know to turn to jesus christ he's not going to let you down but if you don't know to turn that turn to him and you don't have people around you that are going to point you in his direction that's where things go off the rails yeah yeah i think that that was something that i even wanted to say if you're going through a traumatic experience it's the door is open but at the same time it's open to this relationship with the one true god so that's where i'm just like well it's just not going to let me down you know i i'm just going to be there okay so we can really go either way you could go deep into the occultism and misery or maybe you reach out to god and he does deliver you from something and it's the beginning of an amazing faith that you have and you can kind of go from there absolutely you know in this country you know we're so well off in this country we think with a you know a little bit of trouble that we have that you know it's it's oh it's so traumatic you know i'm going to lose my job i'm going to lose that going to lose things that I love so dear, I've owned for so long. But until we have the opportunity to put ourselves in the shoes of somebody who has nothing except Jesus, we don't understand this whole idea of trauma. I've had the opportunity to be in a country or two where we call them third world countries, where the people, no electricity, the running water is the river they're getting their water from. They have a shack that's open to bugs and snakes and everything else to crawl into. But to them, it's more than the other person had, or it's more than what they had before. And they are so joyous as believers in Jesus Christ for what they do have, that they do have that tin roof over their head.
1:21:42 That they do have a clean running creek to get water from. It's a perspective that we're not able to understand. We're first to blame Americans that don't know Jesus, are first to blame him for everything, for every little problem that we have, not coming to their rescue. But I just see such joyous people that have next to nothing, because they understand what worth is. They understand what, you know, true relationship is about. You know, it doesn't matter that they don't have a car or air conditioning or running water and electricity at night. They got Jesus in their heart, and that's what makes the big difference. You know, keep in mind, I've been telling you guys, this is primarily a westernized, modernized, Christianized, white phenomenon. And again, he fits every aspect. Oh, that's it. That's something to think about. We've actually talked a little bit about on that channel. I had Aaron talk about that, the whiteness of it, because he's African American, and it's easier for him to say that. And it's a weird thing. It's a very strange thing, because even you living over in South Africa, South Africa, South Korea, have experienced that. It's still a very American thing, not over there. I don't want to get too far into that, because that would be off on a rabbit trail.
1:23:14 But I think it's interesting that even this guy, going along with his trauma a little bit, he actually talks about another family member having some difficulties. And this is where I think some wires get crossed. Check this out. And that's when... The lady did. Yeah. I saw her two years in a row. The third year, my niece, Stephanie, described her to us from my mother's house. Saw her come out of the front door of our house and glide out on the patio. Stephanie saw her? Stephanie and Anna, yeah. I have the recording. When they called me, they were standing in mom's front yard. It was 1.30 in the morning. They were dog-sitting from Matthew down the street, her brother. Oh, right, right. Yeah. And Anna was eight. And that night, this is a miracle, that night, Chris Jr. had been real sick for a month, not getting out of his bed much, not doing anything. He'd go to work, but he wasn't sick.
1:24:14 He wasn't saying much and hiding how sick he really was. But I give this off to her that night. Well, she... Anna and Stephanie drive home. They drive up to mom's driveway. And now we're on a... We're about 100 yards from their driveway to our driveway apart, right? Front porch to mom's driveway. It was close to 100 yards. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. So Stephanie pulls up to mom's garage door. Gets out and Anna goes in and gets their little dog Scrappy. Uh-huh. Brings him out to take him to potty, right? So she's got him on a leash and her and Stephanie are standing there with their dog. And they look at our house and our house is totally dark. Stephanie drives up and says that she looks straight over at our house, noticed how dark it was, and instantly this glowing white figure of a...
1:25:16 woman floats from out of our house through the front door, floats out on the porch and glides down on the steps to the sidewalk and turns her head and catches direct eye contact with Stephanie and Anna. Now, they're telling me this on my cell phone. They left a... They left a very frantic voice recording. Oh, wow. Right. Next morning, Chris Jr. woke up and said, Mom, I need to go to the doctor. Yeah. And she took him to Cape Fear Valley Hospital that morning and they rushed him by ambulance to Duke University or Chapel Hill University. Chapel Hill. Where he stayed in the hospital for 60 days. Yeah. Wow. With a PICC line in his heart. His kidney was swollen infection and... Wow. The doctor told us if he'd have waited another day, he'd have been dead. Oh, man.
1:26:14 And I know that that experience has... Had something to do with him making his decision to go to the doctor. No doubt. Oh, absolutely. Especially she came through the front door, meaning she was inside the house. Caught direct... Turned her head and caught direct eye contact with Stephanie and Anna. Wow. You can hear them saying this on my phone. And then about that time, she just like a streak of light took off towards the backyard between both houses and a streak of light just vanished. Wow. I've never heard that story before. Well, that is incredible. The craziest part is in the voicemail. And I've heard this, and we can show you after. In the voicemail, there is a third voice. Yeah. Huh? When Stephanie called dad, Uncle Chris, Anna's... You know, we saw this shining lady in the yard.
1:27:03 There's a third voice in the voice recorder. Yeah, in the telephone call, there's an EVP voice that... Whoa. Was it like a feminine sounding voice? No? Like a man, I think. It was telling her it was safe to come out. Oh, my. Yeah, it's audible. Yeah, very audible. You can hear it in... Seriously? Yeah. So, I have a totally different interpretation of what happened here. I think it's fascinating that they came to the conclusion that after this, let's call it a spiritual entity, entered the house at night, that their family member had to go to the hospital and would have died a day later, immediately after that, in that morning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they said, well, we're so glad that this entity appeared here so that they could go to the hospital and that had to be something to do with them healing them? Wait a second. Let's just say it wasn't spiritual and you had someone come into your house and they had perhaps spiritual abilities to heal or to do damage to your house.
1:28:10 And you came in, you're like, oh, wow, everything's damaged. I need to go to the hospital. Or I need to find the police. I'm so glad they came here to tell me that my house was damaged. Or would you think this thing is here and has caused damage? I think that thing was there and caused damage. They looked right at them and then they took off. And then they said, oh, no, it healed. It was here to help them remember to go to the hospital. How do you come to that conclusion? I don't know. That's my interpretation of it. But I don't know why they're not looking at both sides of it. That's what bothers me. One of Chris Bledsoe Sr.'s stories is along those lines about the dog where I guess it's neck just spontaneously cut and started arterial bleeding and then he was able to hear it, heal it.
1:29:04 It's like, yeah, I'm happy for him that he didn't lose his dog. But what caused the cut in the first place? Right. Right. That is something that I had to ask because I heard that story, too. And the focus is on this amazing healing that took place. But the initial gash that caused this dog to almost die, that's never explored. They said the dog was just perfectly fine one second, gashed the next. Then he's crying out to God. He's trying to do something. He puts the rag on, removes it, and boom, it's like the gash is gone. And there was a miraculous experience. This is something very interesting that I listened to another kind of podcast series recently. But they brought this to the attention of the listeners, and I thought it was just really brilliant. But it actually comes out of John 2.11, and it's after Jesus performs his first miracle at the wedding at Cana.
1:30:02 This is, again, John 2.11. This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory. And his disciples believed on him. It was this first miraculous showing that says they believed on him. He had explained a lot to them. They're very impressed they're following him. But then he shows this amazing ability of God. And he's still good. Keep that in mind, too. God absolutely does work miracles. But there's no weird manipulative thing about God performing miracles. He's doing it out of love. I just think. It's so interesting that this end time deception will be based around false signs and wonders being performed. And that is what will convince people to follow Antichrist.
1:30:53 It's crazy. Yeah. And God doesn't need to. I mean, God's goal is that everybody should attain to repentance, right? So however, he's going to stay. He knows what each individual needs if they start coming to him, which way to steer them and what kind of levers that, you know, he can help them along. He can help them along to find him. And it's not always miraculous. And this made me think of Hebrews 13 to be not forgetful to entertain strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. Who knows? Yes, we have descriptions of angels in the Bible. A lot of the time they just look like normal people. They're just described as men, like so they can appear as us. Who knows how many angels have interacted with us personally? We had no idea. We're going to find out. Maybe later, you know, when all the books are open, we have access to that information.
1:31:44 But it seems like these experiences that the Bledsoes keep having, they're making a point of doing something spectacular for the sake of doing something spectacular. Whereas, you know, God's angels, they're on again, they're on a mission. If it is to deliver a message, they show up, they deliver a message. If it's just to interact with somebody in a specific way without them even knowing they're an angel, I'm sure they do that. Um, but these experiences seem over the top always. It's just, um, you know, something's off about that. I think it's also interesting that these signs and wonders, which we know are going to be performed at the end of time to lead many astray, are also going to be healings. We talked a little bit about healings in the last episode, and we got a little bit of flack for that because there are Christians out there who believe that, and I'm not saying there's anything negative about it.
1:32:46 I'm just saying that you need to be very careful to look at both sides of this, because at the end, those signs and wonders could also include healings. And those healings doesn't mean that someone is of God's side. They could also be of the devil's side. How do we know that? Well, actually, I went online just to do a quick study, just to see if I could find where in the Bible it says that there have been healings. But I don't know. I've read a lot of the scriptures that say that there have been healings and that there have been some signs and wonders that have been performed by deceptive spirits. And there are many preachers that are saying that there is never a time when in the Bible Satan has healed. Well, let's look at this real quick, because these signs and wonders, there's one that I can think of off the top of my head, and that is the Pool of Bethesda.
1:33:37 Now, listen to this. Bingo. I was thinking the same thing. John 5. of the jews and jesus went up to jerusalem there now in jerusalem by the sheep's market a pool which is called the hebrew tongue bethesda having five porches in these lay a great multitude of impotent folk of blind they halt withered waiting for the moving of the water and now this is the interesting part an angel went down at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water whoever then first came to the troubling of the water stepped in and was made whole of whatever disease he had okay let's stop right there just for a second what angel of god uses competition to make everybody step over everyone and beat each other down so they could get healed you when jesus came he healed everyone that was that was the the remarkable thing about god jesus was that he come to some towns and there wouldn't be a single person left that was that was uh not whole but an angel doesn't say good or bad but you can see by the characteristics in john 5 that the that the angel wanted to cause absolute chaos here and so this was not an angel of the lord in verse 5 says and a certain man was there which had an infirmity of 38 years when jesus saw him lie and he lying there he knew that he had been there a long time in that cause and he said to him won't thou behold and he healed him interesting huh jesus healed him but he couldn't be healed by the pool of bethesda right and if there's no more we're all excited about this because it's such a good it's really good scripture sorry here let's not step on each other let's not beat each other up to jump in the pool gentlemen someone's got to kick it off but you know i said enough one of eric or joe okay yeah well as i was just going to read real quick so the idea that uh servants of satan can copy god's miracle so exodus 7 starting in verse 10 and moses and aaron went in unto pharaoh and they did so as the lord had commanded and aaron cast down his rod before pharaoh and before his servants and it became a serpent then pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers now the magicians of egypt they also did in like manner with their enchantments for they cast down every man his rod and they became serpents but aaron's rod swallowed up their rods so here is you know moses did it first and they came in oh you think you're something big we can do that too but god always has the last laugh so it shouldn't be so yeah like you're absolutely right right it's not going to be if we're in if we're in god's word we shouldn't be surprised that satan can do some of the things that god can do there's even going to be i'm i'm personally convinced he's going to use dead relatives um and we know that satan cannot actually resurrect from the dead but if again if we're believing in something like the immortality of the soul we might believe that this is actually our dead relative coming to talk with us um but the bible is very clear about actually i have it handy here um about how the resurrection is going to take place in first thessalonians 4 16 for the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of god and the dead in christ shall rise first then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air and so shall we be so shall we ever be with the lord so that's how it's going to go down so anything that happens outside of that it may be a legit miracle but if there's somebody like you mentioned matthew you know yeah lucifer might incarnate somehow and be walking around doing if there's somebody walking on the surface of the ground saying they're jesus it's not jesus because scripture tells us he's going to come in a different way yes go joe you know that we're already seeing these healings going on uh we have been for a while just take the the idea of reiki healers of the new age you know they're actually able to help people and they're they're only able to do that because they've opened themselves up to something that is other than god and and a power that's there and available but you're not going to see it you're not going to see a devout christian reiki healer that doesn't
1:38:24 work you know there's there's no power in the reiki if you're a christian you know it's only when you give up to that side and decide to take on the power of the new age and you're not going to what what is all involved in reiki healing that you're going to have the ability to help people through that type of healing you know i saw all sorts of different things going on in the new age when i spent time there um that i was just like wow you know it's not just god that heals but you know there are other avenues that have been given us over time um you know from different cultures and stuff that show that they can heal but now that i look back on it as a christian i see that every one of those require god of the bible not being there you know a belief in him not being there you know every single time you know i had uh years ago one of the churches i used to go to praise and worship couple uh i was talking to them after church one day that we had a and uh the husband he said he was having trouble with his knee and uh he had been visiting a chiropractor and he said he was having trouble with his knee and uh he had been visiting a chiropractor you know here locally and i asked him i said uh oh where are you going and uh he told me about the place and of course from my years in the new age i knew the location that he had been going to you know to visit this chiropractor and to get adjustments to get his knee feeling better and uh you know chiropractory in itself is not an issue you know it's it's pretty mathematical and on how the body's laid out adjustments are done but a lot of people that are into chiropractic are in it because of the belief systems that they follow also and i asked him you know i said uh when you go into the office there i said uh you see any strange pictures or posters around you know that might make you wonder what they are you know what they're related to and he says yeah i mean he told me a couple and already i'm going like uh-oh here we go and i said well tell me what happens when this chiropractor goes to work on you and uh he says well they they take me into you know the little room that she does her adjustments in and then she disappears for a short and uh she said that she was going to pray first yeah well she wasn't praying to god and jesus oh no and i told him i said you might want to reconsider and find you another chiropractor you know or find you uh you know a legit rehab place and maybe work on your knee for you i said but she wasn't praying to jesus and god in that room i said uh i know the place you're talking about and i used to frequently see her you know in activities that were involved at new age different conferences and get togethers and stuff and uh i'd like you know i i have a suspicion about who she's praying to for her power to be able to heal you i said she might even be able to do you some good but i'd hate to see it get into that connection yeah and he quit going this year yeah because they'll heal you and then you'll have it again and you'll be right back for that money and yeah that's that's exactly what will happen um we have no more comments i'm gonna jump into this next clip um because that's exactly the they begin actually talking about exactly what we're talking about here is it good or bad and listen to what they say about this as we live through lives seeking illumination essentially we reach that point to where we become these beings and this is why i believe that because the being told dad the lady told dad she said that when you die you become as we are your soul goes on the journey it could go wherever it wants to go you go into these orbs and become as we are well we're like when you think about it out of the box it's almost like those beings are us in the future yeah totally that's that's exactly but the future is like non-linear cosmic right because time is completely made up by us but it's like it's it's of like us what the life force inside of you is immortal we are everything and you have the ability essentially to become one of those angelic beings in the sky yeah you are not a spec on a spec on a spec you are an immortal lightning yeah that's our and if they can if they can prevent us from knowing that they want to that wasn't the clip that i was expecting but this is an important clip that i threw in here just before we went into the uh broadcast because it
1:43:05 was um showing exactly what they're teaching here they aren't teaching the bible these these beings are teaching that they are light beings that you can become as god now what portion of the bible talks about us becoming as god this is a point we hammer a lot on this channel well that's what the snake said to eve she said he said you will not surely die you will be as god you will be as god and that's what he has always said to all these other uh mysticisms to these uh magic through through um eastern meditations that you can be as god and achieve this um type of nirvana or godlike experience you can be this being of all you have to do is x y and z and this is what's happening right now they are seeing that exact same thing happen in their lives and then they always said go for it it's always works based yeah you know everything like i tell people you know there's only two two beliefs in the world you know those that believe in jesus christ as lord and in all and all those others are works-based belief systems and that's the trick is it's it's a carrot on a string and you'll never reach that carrot you can never reach nirvana you can never reach you know that higher level because you mess up one time and you start over again you know the whole thing about you know islam with all its prayers and rituals that are involved what happens if you mess up you may as well just give up you know go put your vest on and pull the pin you know because that's your only other option you know right and that's what happens here they are go for it oh here they are saying something specific again something specific about when you die you become one of us well psalm 146 starting in verse 3 put not your trust in princes nor in the son of man in whom there is no help his breath goeth forth he returneth to his earth in that very day his thoughts perish wow so there's a lot of scriptures that's one of my favorites i mean there's many ecclesiastes 9 5 and 10 about the state of the dead the bible is very clear we do not have well even in that genesis genesis account of man's creation doesn't say that man had became or came to have a living soul says we became a living soul so it's that breath of life that that god resides with him he created the physical form it's both of those together that create a soul and when one of those goes the soul is gone the whole idea too that you can become like god i mean that's it is directly it's a satan mentality where he says i will ascend into heaven i will exalt my throne above the stars of god i will sit upon the mount of the creation i will ascend to the heights of the clouds i will be like the most high and i think it's interesting that earlier in the broadcast we heard a clip where they're talking about them guiding our evolution the spoiler alert the end of our evolution is going to be an evolution into godhood that's what they're going to sell it on they're going to say you were always on the path becoming this fifth dimensional light being and we're here because you're finally ready to cross the threshold and the time of your life is coming and you're going to be able to cross the threshold trouble or whatever they're going to portray it as this is just your you know birthing pains for you to become this new god like being and that appeals to a lot of people if if you're not a christian person and someone offers you godhood right do you feel like a jump right on it it's people crave power they crave uh dominion over their own lives in its entirety they don't want to give it up they don't want to say no my life belongs to god i i'm not in control of my own destiny god is in control of my own destiny and he's much better than me no they want to say i am the authority and the only way to do that is to become god so i think that's what they're going to sell people on i wanted to uh bounce off of what eric said and a lot of people say well that you know the body does die but the bible says the soul dies matthew 10 28 says do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul rather be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body hell destroy both soul and body in hell can you imagine so the soul does die it can die and so that's that's that's the dangerous part we if we believe that we have a floating entity that comes out of us and goes somewhere else and um then we can say oh yeah these ancestors they've come back and they've talked to us and they've told us things then we can set us ourselves up
1:47:56 for deception so we got to be very clear about that um as my voice gets deeper it gets later into the night we've have just a couple more clips left hanging there this is very good and we got a couple more things we want to share with you conferences so check this out this is what i want to show you before uh that i thought was actually going to say this is where they actually discuss is if it's good or bad check this out conferences that are uh they got 10 15 people coming together shortly to talk about are they good are they bad of course jesus they don't none of them experience it so how do you know that they're not good or bad they're not good or bad how would they know if it's good or bad right why don't they call somebody that can show it to them you know we can study it at my house i mean we do yeah yeah we have scientists there more to come some of the latest machines they make yep that has confirmed it so a lot more to come this year that's all we can say more to come but i think disclosure is going to happen it's now not from the government they're not going to tell it um from the people experiencing it from people from us yeah we're going to help bring it in absolutely the real truth yeah not saying there's not aliens it may be sure yeah who knows who knows i'm not going to discount that sure but my experience has been spiritual and uh when i say spiritual you know what that means that these beings are spirits not physical they're spirits yeah i have to agree with them on one point these things are spirits they are there are angels they're not good angels and what he's leaning on is experience rather than what he knows and has learned in his bible and he needs to rely on that rather than experience because if experience says one thing and these angels say one thing and that doesn't go against the bible then you need to be very scared of what you're dealing with hey you know what this conference is he's talking about i have no i click no clue it's this year's mufon symposium oh you cincinnati did you look at ufo's friends or i already know ufo's friends or foe is the theme oh wow so he's he's bashing him again is that what happened oh wow all right so another piece of the pie this is um oh sorry i i had still muted myself i had something to say um i uh yeah sorry one of the things that chris said that i actually agree with i and i think he's 100 right the disclosure is not coming from the government yeah it's going to come from like a grassroots type of thing it's going to come from the people from the experiencers and only when it reaches a fever pitch will the government be like uh yeah and they're going to fold basically they're going to say okay this is you're right this is what it is once they can't keep it up anymore i think it's interesting that they're they have that angle there's always that bit of truth that's mixed in with the error and that's what makes it so powerful yeah you know why you're you're so right on this is because for somebody to believe something it's best if the idea was theirs themselves this comes from that movie uh with leonardo dicaprio where they went in and had to change they had to get into the guys during inception yeah the whole concept was to make it so that the guy believed it was him himself that came up with the idea then he would own it and this is exactly the concept that the government has been working with for decades on this disclosure this whole transition that we've seen the way the beings appear the way the beings are projected this whole concept to get to the point now where we're actually saying the word interdimensional and giving descriptions that are so close to what we see as angelic beings has been a i i believe has been a perfectly um designed transition to get us to where we're gonna go ah i know what that is and then we absolutely own it exactly like that movie did
1:52:44 yeah i think you're right especially with all of the terminology that's just creeping closer and closer to the spiritual realm we've seen it on this channel and a lot of the clips that we watch they compare it to the jinn from islam you have the splezzo family openly saying angelic beings tom de long uh blink 182 the guy who did to the stars with jim simpson and the other guy who did to the stars with jim simpson event he has said that these things are much closer to demons and angels in the bible than people realize it seems that the people who are really into it and have done their research get it they know what this is it's just this is where it shocks me why are you in support of them like if you know they're demonic if you're using the word demonic to describe a being why do you want anything to do with it exactly it's just uh yeah it's it's a real head scratcher i suppose all right we got a couple more clips here and we're gonna cut it short because we're already at two hours and so we're gonna we're gonna uh skip these uh skip ahead and listen to this last one because it's these last two are very very peculiar very interesting and they really sum up what's going on here check this out i think that there's a lot of people who hear us say age of aquarius and i think they wonder what that means for humanity like well it's pretty much the water bearer the the biblical the the bible talks about a a thousand years of peace uh which is called the millennium this is basically the same thing i think that we're going through the troubles now the lady told me she said the time's coming when the red star of regulus is sitting on the horizon in the gaze of the sphinx in other words before sunrise so the sphinx is looking due east when that little red star pops up on the horizon straight in his vision it'll be at that time when a new knowledge or an awakening happens to the people and um that will start ushering in a new millennium a new age a new um a new time of peace so you know i could get in here and tell you 20 other things i'd been shown about death and destruction but what good is that if i scare people their eyes glaze over and uh they suddenly don't like what they've been told so it's best that i tell about the beauty and the peace and the love and the yeah forget all negativity wash it out of your brain don't watch the news if it if you shouldn't watch that stuff if it um upsets you what do you think is the destiny of humanity um i think peace yeah and um yeah i think that uh good times are coming me too yeah it's aquarius do you think there's no part of you i mean i already know the answer there's no part of you that believes that these beings are coming here to harm us do you nope none whatsoever yeah i'm don't i'll tell you straight up there are negative beings yeah more like more like shadowy forces right right i wouldn't i wouldn't say they're walking around you know with ray guns no no it's not the way it works no it's it's it's more like spirits well basically even these angelic beings are more like spirits they're magical they when you see one we're talking a rotating ball of light and yeah out of that light they come and their light you know they're glowing and but then you have the dark forces that are non-physical that infect your mind yeah they can like latch onto your soul if you if you're a negative person and you live in a negative life well you're going to reap that you're going to get these negative forces around you playing and they'll get you in a place to where you can't never come out of it if you're not careful but if you have if you have god and if you have jesus he can keep you from those things and you won't have to worry about either one so i think what's going on here is we're going to see that these things are playing both sides the good and the bad that's one thing i wanted to show but number two was he's talking he's he's trying to say about the age of aquarius is the millennium
1:57:28 and that that there's going to be peace on earth and heaven is is going to be on earth and it's going to be all this we just read the verse and it's going to be all this and it's going to be all this we just read the verse we are caught up into the clouds and forever be with the lord forever and i think it's fascinating that that he is he's he's almost pushing pushing the idea of the age of aquarius here on earth the millennium you're not reading your bible and this is the danger because there's actually religions based around this well so there is going to be a millennium in heaven but the scripture makes very clear it's going to be a new earth humans are coming back to earth and so so there i see here i'm going to be a millennium in heaven and i'm not really thinking about the age 7 but i do feel like i should be at the birth already of god so that works out the pattern i'm assuming right now i'm going to be a millennial in heaven i'm seeing that i know something work probably not i'm going to be Yoav or i might not be at the birth but i'm assuming that i'll be at the birth right now and i'll be at a real age then it's really nice to ever know about the father god and the father in the tiene his eaten to the joy and his angels and his power and i don't know how to start buying looks really cool in 13 verse 13 and i saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet for they have this they are the spirits of devils working miracles which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world to gather them to the battle of that great day of god almighty so every human nation an institution is going to be gathered together to fight against jesus christ he's not ruling through the united states he's not going to rule through some other nation and the culmination of that uh is good is second peter 3 10 says but the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up and verse 13 says nevertheless we according to his promise look for new heavens and a new earth where wherein dwelleth righteousness so christ when christ returns you know there is going to be those who are going with him those who put themselves on his side are going with him everything else is the way i envision is just getting glassed you know and it's going to stay that way for a thousand years until the new jerusalem descends and that's when satan is finally destroyed so but unless you're reading the scriptures and putting this is not just in one book you know you have to go to daniel you have to go to revelation you have to put all these things together and you have to go to scripture and you have to put all these things together and just dig into the word and that then an idea like this where an entity is going to come down and bring peace on earth i mean the scripture tells us i don't have it available but the cry of peace and security what is that what happens directly after that christ returns you know so but unless you're looking for that you're going to say oh finally peace and security thanks to whatever government or these railings or whatever entities came down from the sky so i mean you know i don't know i don't know i don't know we keep pounding on it because it's it's true get into the word for anybody watching this you know if you're not if you don't have a relationship with jesus christ start a relationship with with jesus christ go to him directly get and get yourself a bible um you know and and start reading it i prefer daniel and revelation are good places to start the gospels definitely but these are things that we have to do if we don't want to be how many times did jesus say do not be deceived when he's talking about the last days right before he comes why don't you because there's going to be deception great deception that's exactly right any other comments yeah absolutely because i've seen joe's got something to say too i'll make a brief show um so you see this happen a lot with uh the bledsoes whenever they bring up scripture it's just a little piece here a piece there i mean i've heard ryan talking to his father and he said dad in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god oh ohm was the word it's like wait what you have to read the bible you can't just take these little verses or these concepts from scripture out of place and not support them with anything else we look at isaiah to see how you're actually supposed to read and understand the bible whom shall he teach knowledge and whom shall he make to understand doctrine them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breast for precept must be upon precept precept upon precept line upon line line upon line here a little and there a little that is how you go through the scriptures and you have a firm foundation in your faith you actually read the bible and take it for what
2:02:17 it says in its entirety not just i have a concept i kind of like this verse that fits my concept yeah it does it is my concept now so i'm just going to use this one verse anyway thought concluded joe what did you have to say did you guys catch that there was actually a c given with a date i didn't catch the date for some reason ah easter 2026 wasn't it yeah six the one where the regulus appears above the sphinx you got red star regulus red star regulus go back and look at that clip that information to the exact day and time is achievable through planetarium and you can see that the planetarium has a program that the planetarium runs on a on a clock a universal clock that you can look you can go to a planetarium they get a lot of apps that will do that too when your phone now you can actually put yourself in any location on the planet pick a time and date in the past or the future and see exactly what the stars will look like in the heavens so one of you take on the homework go find out when in the future regulus will appear it's just a big computer program it'll run forward to that exact time where regulus will appear there then we will have an exact date and time okay so and then let's see what happens because they prophesy a lot yeah and then it never comes true but people forget about it about the prophecy if it didn't come true you know they forget that they talked about it earlier that's the new age's neat little trick you know uh we just won't bring that up you know but that that was a distinct date and time yeah i noticed so so i don't know did that clip include it brad or did maybe you cut it short but they do go on to talk about that time a little more extensively joe i do that i don't know if you remember that they they do and and what he said was that this will occur within the spring equinox period of 2026. he said it's going to happen around easter he said it's like a window of time it's not necessarily a specific date but it's within this window of time uh and he's also said i don't think we have a clip of it but in interviews he's said every easter he expects an entity to manifest to him and it does so easter is just like a big deal for him that's when he has a real communion with these spirits i also think it's interesting red star regulus i'm not sure i know it's a part of the leo constellation which i think is interesting because we have jesus who's represented as the lion of judah but we also have satan who is a roaring lion seeking to devour so i think it's kind of an interesting dichotomy we have there but i believe that the red star regulus is also referred to as the kingly star which i don't know i'm not like gonna get into into all of it but there is just like interesting coincidental stuff and i'm sure that that would play into someone who who does have a heavy belief in this if those things were to happen they'd say whoa you'll never believe it like look how the heavens have aligned this is why i wonder which i wonder which date of easter he's using he said 20 26. yeah easter 26. is it is it the east is it based on the lunar calendar the one he's using or is it based on the american calendar you know wow wherever the star lies joe i i don't know no that i bring that up because i wonder which one this angelic being is using the one that fits him or the one that's actually was based off of the lunar calendar right well odds are it's going to be the gregorian calendar odds are gregory pope gregory says it's going to be the gregorian calendar up the gregorian calendar just so everyone knows it's a it's a roman catholic we're working on roman catholic time you know in the bible where it says that the that uh the man of sin will seek to change the times well he actually did it he changed the times we're we're running it weird and all of our calendars have uh like saturday is the last day of the week when the first day of the week yeah it's all whatever yeah well it's your point joe about the planetarium there's a good documentary it's called the star of bethlehem and they actually did this based on the astronomical stuff in the bible pointing to jinn matter of fact that that documentary blew
2:07:08 me away but yeah why can't we do that have you seen it yeah oh cool okay so you know what i'm talking about well okay so yeah we can do that and we can go ahead but why can't we do that for when christ returns because what did christ say no man knows the day or the hour so trying to figure out the exact day it's point i mean um i will say i do know happen to know from astrologically 2025 and 2030 appear to be significant years to them and you know in if you follow the news or politics or things there's like this agenda 2030 so i mean i can't predict obviously i'm not going to try it i'm not going to fall i don't want to fall into that trap of trying to predict the day and the hour oh come on things are just just good the time is short and things are coming quickly so i mean this is why i mean if we see these things happening we're told to watch be awake be aware of what's going on we're in an important time so we need to be we need to be mindful of that yeah consequently 2024 has also come up quite a bit in this show and so it's it's it's all we we just know we're on the precipice of something something's happening and uh we we're we know also that if the meat demons make these prophecies they won't come true necessarily they're they can calculate a little better than humanity so in summary this is what bledsoe believes the most annoying thing that i've ever read on the internet from like a skeptical person it's it is literally the most annoying thing is they say oh man i believe you had the experiences i just think the beings are lying to you it's like stop don't ever say that to me again it's annoying right it's annoying i i i don't i don't think people those are those are just uh uninformed yeah it's it's it's it's a very it's i don't know it's a very lazy very lazy thought process well it's all coming we're way past that we know these beings are telling the truth they've demonstrated to our family for 14 years they've they've healed dozens of people on our property they have caused so many miraculous things behind the scenes fall into place i mean i don't i don't want to speak for you but for me i know without a doubt that they they're the real deal yeah they're not evil that's all a lie it's not they're not it's a lie that they're evil i mean the lady told you that right and not everybody believes that you know and so you know that's the way it is yeah i don't want to say that the government's doing that people try to say the government this and the government's doing that well we got to realize the government is millions of people millions and um everybody i've met there for the most part are very nice people and customer service right and so i'd be hesitant to say that the government's behind anything i would say there might be an individual here for whatever their reasons are but it's not on behalf of the government Yeah, the government is always there for the people.
2:10:03 the government you understand what i'm saying yeah i get it it's so annoying it's annoying those people yeah i hope that ryan doesn't uh watch this because he's just gonna be very very frustrated but one thing i will say ryan if you do happen to watch it i hope you see that we're not being lazy at least we're supplementing our position this is not just where some uneducated people go oh i don't know what that is it's got to be demons no we're saying here is why this is our faith this is what we believe in and god has warned us expressly of this type of thing that you're interacting with and that's why we say yeah we believe that these things have happened to you but they are demonic that's what it is that's the diagnosis i i think it's really interesting so we've done there's you uh analysis of like elizabeth april and like that new it's really interesting so we've done there's you uh analysis of like elizabeth april and like that new age version where it's like the galactic federation and the idea that there's good aliens coming down but then there's these bad aliens over here and there's this war um between the the different entities and it's interesting to me that the bledsoes um don't seem to they're all good as far as and so it's like a different theology that's in parallel with the new age stuff maybe joe you can speak to that more uh um more thoroughly what are you your thoughts he did pick up and he did say one thing in one of the last couple clips where it depends on uh where you're coming from if you're negative you'll pick up the negative entities and you know if you're more uplifting that you know you'll you'll pick up the better entities but the thing is as soon as i heard him say that i realized that that's been the scenario all along through the abduction experience that people have had and contact experience um they're playing this good cop bad cop scenario with us you know where they're both cops that's the thing it's just this game they play one fits you against you know bad experiences bad entities just so the other ones can step in and go oh i'm here to help you you know those guys are the bad guys but i'm here to help you along and we're gonna make this all better and that's when you get pulled in hook line and sinker the people that i've come across with over the past 30 years that have been pulled in by that lie that little game they play those almost unreachable really they are it's like they've sold everything about themselves over to these beings if you can reach the people in their experiences when they're traumatic because they don't know what's happening to them that's when you have an opportunity to offer the truth but once these superior entities come in you know the ones like he's seeing this woman in the beautiful woman in the garbage they call them the nordics most of the time yeah once they come in it's hard to it's hard to pull them back out of that you know it's it's it's an amazing seduction that they're pulling off here but it it's exactly what we see on good cop bad cop television wasn't it mark twain said it's easier to fool somebody than to convince them they've been fooled so you got that right and then you know a second could just a scripture that relates directly to the second corinthians 11 14 and no marvel for satan himself is transformed into an angel of light therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers will be according to their works so he's i mean it's yeah we're not surprised that you're seeing this and that they're whether you're seeing an attractive being or a being of light i mean you just the scriptures right there you can read it for yourself and that's what satan has to resort to deception because if he just came out and said you know i'm satan we're gonna fight against the creator of reality how many people would actually join them you know you know another part that is is a very productive part of all of this is not once do you hear the term accountability you know in his in his messages about what's going on um the whole new age is about spirituality without
2:14:48 accountability that's the seduction these people are falling for you know they don't have to be accountable for anything that they do i would really be curious to what we're not seeing behind you know i doubt you know he talks about a belief in god he talks about a belief in jesus but does he live in that belief you know that's the thing that i would question right you know that's i i'm sure there's other open doors there that he doesn't want to close you know for for the love of them and and that's what allows these these entities to you know perpetrate their life it's an interesting comment from the chat oh sorry just uh and this relates to a previous videos as semivan says he witnessed the lady at their house and says they are evil um and jim in the previous videos that we've been done when we first introduced jim semivan that's what his experience he seemed to have experience with the same entities and he came away with a completely different impression and the whole video he was saying do not get in he was like half and half like it like matt brought out when during our analysis like yeah they can do this is all really cool but do not get involved um we need to do this because it's a really bad time yeah yeah matt i was just gonna yeah one of the final thoughts i have on what you brought up joe was a great point where you exclude the negativity we see that a lot in the new age we see that a lot in these phenomenons where people do have really scary terrible things but you're told don't focus on that don't go there don't have the negative thought you're attracting negative energy if you do that and they've said that they said you can't say anything bad it's a it's from one of the interviews where they're like, oh, there's an old Greek philosophy where you don't say, oh, like I'm right-handed because then you're speaking ill of your left hand and that's bad. And then you're going to have like misfortune with your left hand. One of the key tenets of Christianity is that we have to come before God and say, I am a sinner. I am a wicked being. I have violated your commandments and I have fought against you. I deservingly could be given the death sentence.
2:17:01 I need an advocate. I need a savior. I need someone who will stand for me and defend me and ultimately die in my place, which is what Jesus did for us. If you can't say I have sin that needs to be forgiven, I have things that I have done personally wrong and I have faults that I repent of, then you're not, I mean, that comes out of one of the letters of John. Like if you don't have a repentant spirit, it's a sign that you're not really converted. So I think that's just another interesting little tidbit where it's just, again, turning people away from God, even in a very subtle way like that, because you think, oh, no one wants to say anything bad about themselves, but there you have it. You can't call yourself a sinner because that would be saying something bad about yourself. Any final thoughts before I say a last prayer? I think John 14, six is the perfect scripture to end. Jesus say, faith unto him. I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the father, but by me.
2:18:10 So if you are having one of these experiences or you're being harassed, go directly to Jesus. There's no other name that you can call on that's going to help you out and he won't let you down. And, you know, whatever, if you encounter a spirit, I mean, it's best to not interact with them at all, but, you know, test them. And if they don't declare that, that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life that he came in the flesh, that he died for your sins, don't have to do that. So I think that's a good way to end the prayer. That's absolutely right. And I like that talent like it is, says in the chat, second Corinthians 11, 14, and don't marvel for Satan himself can be transformed into an angel of light, which is what we've seen in blood so have. Guys, might I have a little prayer? Absolutely. All right, let's close. Father God, thank you so much for giving us the time to talk about these things. It's so important because this thing is coming at us. It's going to be here. You warned us about it. And we want to tell as many people about what is coming upon the earth as fast as possible. Give us wisdom. Thank you for giving us verses that came to our minds as we looked at these videos and to understand your time and your world that you've given us. We look forward to the day where we get to sit and kneel in front of your throne.
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