0:04 Good evening, we're gonna have another strange night strange normal You know, I found something that just kind of superseded everything else that we've talked about in this channel Something's happened recently and I missed it. I'll be the first to admit it but something Something really bizarre happened and it was in a previous podcast on a small channel Bigger than this one, but they talked a lot about the next step in this whole process that we know is coming and it's happening now Yeah, they're claiming that this whole thing Is part of the afterlife We knew that was coming Hold your horses. We're gonna talk about that a little bit later. Stay tuned The system is totally rigged and broken The spirits of the will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five distant planets in the galaxies That are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the I still think these are what people call angels I'm dying to know what they've got to say pretty severe suffering brings these entities have the ability to appear in any form I still think these are what people call angels I'm dying to know what they've got to say pretty severe suffering brings These entities have the ability to appear in any form. Well, there's a struggle. My name is Bradley We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on and there's a Lot going on so make sure you hit that subscribe button hit that little bell icon So you notified when things like this happen. I see you all in the chat starting early. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the Mahdi That's a big story and I have a whole video lined up about that. I'm gonna pre-record it if something big happens I try to pre-record it so I say exactly what I want to say because these live streams are just spitball sometimes I don't know. It's more about the content than it is about me And with that said we're gonna talk a little bit about something I missed that was about a month ago that I think is Significant I've got a bunch of clips lined up that I need to just Sit down and make a bunch of videos for but we're gonna talk about this tonight because this is really significant Some big stuff is happening You know, I think though we've had quite a bit of people recently come into this I've been doing presentations at other churches talking about this topic and I want to make sure everyone's caught up so we don't just jump right into the middle of it because it's it's a it's a big Topic and if you jump in the middle bit You might think that we're a little bit kooky trying to understand this whole last day spiritualism is actually What this channel is all about we're gonna talk a little bit about that and more But I thought I'd show you a little bit of a news clip to get started before we get into the actual meat of the program that really surprised me and and Didn't it didn't it didn't render that's fantastic. Okay. Well, I'll render it while we start into the me the program then Let's talk about second Thessalonians 2 9 through 10 as we always do this is this is the Bible verse So that keeps coming back over and over again second Thessalonians II I'm sorry second Thessalonians 2 9 through 10. I wrote the verse up here and I didn't actually write the the Bible verse it says The coming of the lawless one is in accordance with Satan With all power signs and lying wonders to all deception Reading it from memory because it's not up here yet. There it is is the coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works.
5:00 This is a terrible version. What is this? Oh, the non-inspired version. Let's change that. In K3. Okay, search. Good. There we go. All right, scroll down. And I'll play this play on the screen. The coming of the lawless one is in according to the working of Satan, with all power signs and lying wonders, with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved. So what is happening here? Well, we all know. We've talked about this before. And this is going to be a big, significant, significant change in how people understand reality. But there's no change that happened. It's just how it's been redefined, because Satan's magic, his magic is redefining words, basically.
5:49 And so the Vatican has been, deeply involved in this. They haven't really come out and said that yet. But I have a feeling with the new Pope that's coming out, they're going to say a lot about it. I should just pop that up here and just play it through the player so you guys can see it. Because what happened was something didn't get rendered out like it should be. And we have a Vatican clip. Oh, you know what I can do? I can pop it in without re-rendering it. That's what I'll do, everyone. So I'm flying solo tonight. As you can see, and it feels a little bit discombobulated because I flew in here at the last moment. But I got a really good show lined up that I want to show you guys. And everything is out of place. All right.
6:38 Well, I'm looking at my other screen over here, and we're going to re-render this. Maybe I'll cut this part out while we're rolling up here. There it is. All right. So right-click. We're Locate and Explore. And pop this into the player so you guys can see it right here. Edit Items. Right in too many screens. There we go. And save. Banfield. News Nation. As always, watch this. A while back, News Nation reported a claim from a Pentagon whistleblower that back during World War II, Pope Pius XII tipped off the U.S. government about the recovery of a partially intact UFO, that Benito Mussolini's Italian government had discovered. So will the new pope open the vault and share the secrets below the Vatican? I'm joined now by the host of UFO Witness on Discovery Plus, Ben Hanson. Ben, it is so, like, crazy to think that there is a nexus between the Vatican and UFOs, but that's something that was actually discussed in testimony before Congress.
7:56 Yeah, it sounds like it's, like, straight out of a dictionary. Dan Brown novel, you know, Da Vinci Code stuff. Is the Catholic Church involved in a cover-up, something they don't want their membership or the world to know? You know, David Grush comes out and he talks about this 1933 case where supposedly the U.S. military was tipped off, like you said. They come in, take this UFO, this object, take possession of it at the end of World War II. And allegedly, the Catholic Church has not only records. They don't have records of that, but perhaps going back to centuries, documentation of UFOs or perhaps alien visitation. So here's what, you know, if P then Q, I'm thinking. Why would they keep everything a secret? Because if, you know, their followers, their congregants, beyond Catholics, if people start to realize that it's not an Adam and Eve story and it's not just Earth and there's a lot more to it, there goes religion.
9:01 I think you've kind of hit the nail on the head, you know, that theory, because the idea is the same, you know, concept, perhaps, that you talk about. Perhaps was Jesus married? Did he have children? The canonical, you know, doctrine of many religions is very kind of set in stone. And so to go back and kind of rewrite history and to say, OK, well, perhaps not only we're not the only ones in the universe, but what if they don't look like us? OK, OK, I got to bring it back right there. Let's stop it at 216 and continue because there's more to that clip. This is only a third of the way through. Notice what they want to do. And I'm not saying they, I hate, I hate, I hate this. When people say they, they are typically referring to a political party, a group, a Illuminati or something like that, some human.
9:54 And I don't refer to that because I believe that the majority. Majority of people are deceived when I say they I'm and I'm concerned about deception. I'm talking about the specific deception of the spiritual realm. They are demonic entities. What are they trying to do here? Well, what they are trying to do is say, look, everybody, this is going to change religion. You must change. It's going to change everything. This is this is the predictive programing that's happening with this. This news. And many others. They've said this over and over again. This is going to change religion. So when it does happen, people are like, oh, yeah, yeah, this just changes everything. Yeah, yeah. Then the news has been telling me that for years. And so I think that's that's what's that's what you keep hearing this over and over again.
10:45 It doesn't change anything. We've been told this through scripture. It's just people don't read the scripture and know that this is coming. You know, there's a huge talk going up in. In Augusta. In Maine right now, Maine, one of the states in the United States, and they mentioned strange normal. I'm not going to call out the person and say, oh, yeah, thank you. So and so. But because, you know, I want people to talk about this, I don't want people to be identified just because they they mentioned the program. But I think it's such an important message this. Why wouldn't I be? I wouldn't be doing this for three or four years just because I wanted to. I think this is this last day spiritualism stuff. Yeah. Yeah. At the peak in line with looking at Vatican and saying, what's going on over here? The two big things, worship and spiritualism, are what's going to be the big deception the last days.
11:41 And that's why it's so important that we talk about this topic more openly before it does happen. Anyway, you guys have heard me say that over and over and over again. Let's continue into the news because that's what you're you're here for. Right. You have, you know, a scriptural reference to making God and. And man's image. So what if they don't really look like us? Would that mean that people lose their faith without knowing that they're going to kind of panic and and give up on religion? And what about the authority of religion and membership? So all those questions is kind of what the theory is as to why perhaps they believe that either people are not ready for this or that they should indefinitely keep it covered up. Or you have to rewrite a few books to incorporate the universe instead of just Earth. Yeah. You know. But I am curious about the official position that the Catholic Church takes on extraterrestrial possibilities. Well, it kind of depends on who you talk to.
12:38 Right. So the the keeper of the records or the secretary to the prefect, the prefect of the archives has come out and said that they absolutely do not. They don't know where Grush got this idea. They said they don't have any documentation of extraterrestrial life and they're dissuading researchers. From asking anymore. So there's kind of like a process, sort of like filing a Freedom of Information Act. You can petition the Vatican, see what they say. Will you let us into your archives? And and they're saying, stop looking for it. We don't have any of that here. Now, I personally do know of people who have had access to archives. And I do know, according to them, that the Catholic Church has kept records of things such as demonic possession for centuries, very detailed records. But as to the UFO. Subject, that's more of a mystery. Like you had mentioned in the beginning, 50 miles of shelving, they probably don't even know what they have in there.
13:37 And I highly doubt it's my assumption. Yeah, I highly doubt it. Yeah. Look at it. The books are almost falling apart. I only have like 30 seconds left. But is there any hope that the new pontiff might be a little more transparent, might open up the archives and let people take a look? See. Well, I would just say that if you look at what happened. What happened under Pope Francis, they did revise the guidelines as to what is considered a miracle, how to investigate or accept something as supernatural. And so the new pope probably will follow those same guidelines. It makes you kind of wonder why now, right? Is there something about now that they think might be coming down the road as to why they have to stay ahead of it and kind of have a standard by whereby they decide if something authentic or not. So we'll see. Thank you.
14:25 All right. So that was interesting, right, to have the News Nation talk about the Vatican in conjunction with UFOs. And when I say UFOs, I mean these things that are flying around in the sky that the government is seeing, these lights that aren't necessarily connected to a machine. They try to connect it to a machine, but it's not. They're seeing these 42-foot round lights in the sky. And they're like, what is this? I don't know what's going on. And when these things appear to, like, Bledsoe, all of a sudden, this, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, what's going on? Yeah. This woman appears, called herself Hathor, comes out and says, hey, we want to use you to reveal us to the world. What is going on with my lights tonight? That short connection, every time I step on it, I got to fix that. But that is what that's all about. And so I thought I'd dig into some of these podcasts because, oh, there's so much, okay, so much background.
15:18 I should fit in this real quick. You guys know what Skywatcher is? Skywatcher is something we've covered the two episodes they have on YouTube right now. It's basically Jake Barber. Okay. Who is Jake Barber? Jake Barber. There's so much backstory. Let's go back further. There's a group of people since Lou Elizondo came out of the Pentagon and said, we need to form a group and talk about this. You know, this is when Tom DeLonge got involved in all this stuff and they got together and they said, look, something big has happened. And then Tom DeLonge was like, yeah, it's evil and scary. And they formed a group. They formed a group over here. And then Lou Elizondo said, yeah, we got to make it big and scary in order for it to emphasize it to the Pentagon. So they get into this whole thing. Well then this other group started, it's kind of factioned out into two UFO group of societies.
16:12 And these guys say, no, no, no, no, no, look, this is a good thing. They're great. They're benevolent. And you know what? We're going to call them down and talk with them. In fact, your government has been doing this for years. And that. So when a bunch of people started coming out of the government saying, by the way, we've been talking about this and we have pulled gifts down gifts, that's what they call them. Not crashes, but gifts from something else had come down and we've called them down by using a form of meditation, calling them down, which is called CE5. And we're going to look into that a little bit tonight. But one of the things that Jake Barber started was this group called Skywatcher. Skywatcher. And he said, look, I'm separating myself from the government and I know all these people that were at one time in the government and we're going to do this in the private sector. Is that my saying that right? Public sector, not the government. And they're so they're saying the government's hiding it from you.
17:11 They're, they're, they're, they're, they're compartmentalizing this whole thing. And now we're going to do it ourselves. And they've had some success with that. So these last few episodes, I've talked a little bit, shown clips from those episodes, but. So these are the people that they're using to try to obtain this stuff, these gifts, these things, whether they're an egg or whether there's some technology of some kind that, I don't know, just appears out of nowhere, floats down. I don't know how it works. I'm sure we're going to see that someday, but what happens is that when these things appear on, on earth, they are whisked away and potentially this is, this is all hearsay right now. Cause we haven't seen this. We're trying to reverse engineer it for war. So we can be the best of the best country and win wars and things like that. And you know, the devil loves war. That's why he, why not kill a bunch of people? I'll give you gifts to kill people.
18:09 No problem. And I'm sure that's the agreement. I'm going to help you out. But Jake Barber said, I'm going to show you, and I'm going to create a YouTube channel and we're going to use psionic assets, which basically means they're going to use a form of divination. They're going to use a form of divination to bring these things down and show you what, what is happening here. All right. Now we have the background backstory about this whole thing. And I apologize for people that are actually keeping up with this or keeping up with the channel because you guys, I'm sure already know that whole backstory. If you don't, please tell me in those, in the comments, thank you for helping me understand what's going on there because I didn't know all that. And that helps me know that I, I don't need to jump right into this stuff. I need to provide a little bit of a backstory to this. Okay. So Post Disclosure World, which is a YouTube channel that has had, he's, he's, he's more awkward than me and he's, he's, he talks about this stuff and he he doesn't have the right worldview, but he actually had one of the psionic assets on the program and the asset was called James Hodkins.
19:23 So we're going to go in there. We're going to go into that. Let me make sure I'm hitting the right, uh, clip here and bring up my notes. Yeah. So we're going to go into that. And, uh, I, the first clip is them talking about coming from the afterlife. I think that's this first clip we'll find out. Here we go. What are your preferred protocols when you're trying to make contact with nonhuman intelligence? So everyone is. It's very person dependent. And I actually, from my team, the one we use at Skywatcher, there actually isn't a specific protocol that's used. And I know, you know, C5 is very popular. There's other derivations of that. I mean, for me, my mind is a very like open receptive partnership.
20:17 I'm basically broadcasting that, you know, we're here in a spirit of partnership. We'd love for you to show yourselves. Okay. That's great. Yeah. I think that's very, I think that's very important to be able to make itself known and loved by the audience and to the public. And we can all just be on the same page. And, uh, that's, it is important that, and that's, it's important that too, that it's made, you know, there's much, there's so many things that people are doing it's, it's much more than, you know, just being a creator, right. There's not necessarily a question about how much you can be doing it and how many you can be doing it. And so I think it's my favorite way, uh, of telling our audience that, you know, there's so much to be cool about. And so, and I think that that's like, uh, how we've been doing this, uh, is it's going up in a heartbeat. It really just depends on you as an individual. Okay, that wasn't the right clip, but you got the idea of how they actually contact these things. It's a form of meditation. The love and light thing is a very new age concept where they reach out to these things and they say, hey, by the way, we want you to be close to us.
21:20 Move over here. Flash your lights a little bit, which is not lights like on a car. They're actually seeing these round 42-foot or in diameter round objects. The Bible calls angelic presences stars of the heaven, and I feel like I say the same thing over and over again, but you guys know where I'm going with this, right? The stars of the heavens. Before Bethlehem, there was a group of angels that looked like the star of the heaven and led magi to Jesus. That happened. Also, Revelation talks about a third of the stars of heaven was swept by Satan out of heaven, cast down to the earth. And so when you see these things in the sky, you know that they are angelic presences. The question is, which side are they? Well, we've determined on this channel that they're not on the good side. Okay. At least the ones that are presenting themselves right now.
22:24 Let me see what the clip is I have next here, because I think they're all out of order. Something happened here. Let's see what it says. I find it particularly wild, the idea that the components or aspects of the phenomenon, because like you said, we might be dealing with many different things, but part of it might have something to do with the afterlife. That is about as mind-bending as you could possibly ever get. Yeah. To me, that's more mind-bending than, I can't think of anything more mind-bending than that. If that's true, how is the world going to digest that? I have no idea. I really don't know. When we talked about INEA and the Explorers Club, I also have a startup background. We joke about when you're building a startup, you're assembling the airplane while it's in flight.
23:25 I think burying our heads in the sand as to what this is and saying we shouldn't explore it because we don't understand it, and the potential ontological shock for humans is too great, I think is grossly irresponsible. I tend to rail against scientific materialism, but that really goes against everything that we have been built on since the Enlightenment. I like to think that we're seeing… We're seeing a kind of commingling of different cycles of humanity, wherein previously we were very superstitious, but these experiences were much more accepted. Move on to the Enlightenment, everything becomes scientific materialism. I think now we're going towards a synthesis of these two things, and it doesn't necessarily need religion as an explanation. It's okay for reality to be a lot stranger than we accept.
24:24 It's not necessarily having to just ascribe a label to it. But I do think, to your point about the afterlife, this is proof that we live on after death. And I can't think of anything more important than that, particularly the hole that seems to exist in the West right now in terms of the crisis of meaning. I do think the reality of our spiritual sides and the immortality of that, regardless of the paradigm one chooses to assume, is not that we're in the right place. We're in a very efficient position. ascribe to it, that's what's so important here. Is it proof? Is it proof? I don't think so, and I think that a lot of people are seeing through this right now. It's not proof that there is an afterlife if you start hearing voices in your head that say, oh, by the way, I'm your mother, I'm your father that died a long time ago. How is that proof? How does that follow the scientific method? Isn't that confirmation bias about something? I see many Christians latching onto this and going, yes, I can finally prove that God is real by showing that someone is living in an afterlife, but that's not biblical. Let me dig into that real quick. We need to talk about this because the Bible actually doesn't say that you are in heaven right now. Shock! Yeah, it's true. It says that you are not. Because the body, separate from the breath, is not conscious. In fact, back in the day, it says that, let me just bring you up here. This is Numbers. Numbers, follow my train of thought here. It said, Numbers 25, 1 through 3. Now, Israel remained in the cage of groves, and the people began to commit harlotry with the woman of Moab. They invited the people to sacrifice their own women. They invited the people to sacrifice their own women. They invited the people to sacrifice their own gods, and people ate and bowed down to their gods. So Israel was joined to Baal Apior, and their anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel. Okay, so they joined to Baal Apior. They were worshiping Baal, no big deal, but they were also, they were bowing to their gods. Baal was their gods. Okay, so listen to this. Psalms 106, 28, they joined themselves to Baal Apior. You would know that already. And eight sacrifices made to the dead. Okay, so Baal Apior had something to do with, the dead, and people of the dead. They were sacrificing, almost worshiping, because you sacrifice things when you worship things. You sacrifice to the dead. They were sacrificing to the dead, which was Baal Apior. Okay, so Baal Apior and the dead, something synonymous is happening here. Let's continue in a different book, 1 Corinthians 10, 20. Rather than the things which the Gentiles sacrificed, they sacrificed to the dead. They sacrificed to the demons. Okay, so they weren't sacrificing the dead. They weren't sacrificing to Baal. They were sacrificing to a demon that was pretending to be the dead, and not to God. And I don't want you to be, have fellowship with demons. Okay, so what was happening here? Well, it's easy to figure out that they were worshiping demons that were impersonating the dead. Will this happen in the future?
27:51 Absolutely. Revelation 16, 14, Demons performing signs which go out to the kings of the world, kings of the earth, and to the whole world, to gather them to the battle of the great day of God Almighty. Fight against God, coming in the clouds, which was all about the raw material. And that book, that came out in the 80s, I think. And that was all the UFO idea of, hey, some God created the Ten Commandments, and we have to someday fight against him. This is that battle. This is Revelation in a nutshell. Revelation 16, so we can tell, because the Bible goes on in Ecclesiastes 9, was it 11, 9, 9, 11, I forget. But it says, the dead know nothing. The dead know nothing. There is no life in them. So what's happening? We are resurrected at the end of time. The righteous go to heaven. The non-righteous don't.
28:55 They appear after a thousand years of being in heaven and thinking about this. So think about this. If there is an Antichrist that appears on earth, which, this is a big deception, folks. If he appears on earth, that's not God. There's going to be Antichrist. You can't believe that he's going to be on earth. I don't care what the New Age or UFOlogy says about a thousand years of peace. On earth, it doesn't happen. Not biblical. A thousand years in the air, it doesn't happen. That's biblical. That's Revelation. We can talk about that sometime. I have a whole talk about that. But make sure you understand where this whole thing takes place, because there will be a coming back to this earth to be a final destruction, hell on earth, and destroyed, and a new earth created, which is the ending of Revelation. Okay, let's move on from that, because that's a huge thing. But before all this stuff happens, let me go to some Bible commentary real quick. This is really interesting. So Bible commentary says this. When is all this stuff going to take place, this UFOlogy stuff? Well, it says, When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of a Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp the hands of spiritualism, when under the influence of this threefold union, we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan, and that the end is near. That's what's going to happen. So what's really interesting, though, is that it also says, this is interesting, Prophets and Kings says, Christians should be preparing for what is to soon break upon the world as an overwhelming surprise. This preparation should be made by a diligent study of the Word of God, by striving to conform their lives to its precepts. Boy, you don't see or hear a false prophet say that.
30:55 Striving to conform their lives to its precepts. Well, what, study the Bible? Yeah, because the Bible, what's coming back right now is a new form of spiritualism that's not going to like the Bible at all. We're going to have another Bible-burning moment in history. Mark my words, because that's what's happening. We're going to have a point where everyone is going to say, oh yeah, I actually believe something else. This isn't, I believe in the tangible. I believe in something that I can use the scientific method on. I believe in the tangible. I believe in the tangible. I believe in what's in front of me. And this is more tangible than what God said a long time ago. Get rid of that thing. I don't believe that at all. I believe in what's in front of me. Because, let's go back to some Bible commentary. This is fascinating stuff. This is Second Selected Messages, page 383. It says, satanic agencies in human form. What? Satanic agencies? You mean spiritualism in human form? That's crazy. We'll take the part, take part in this last great conflict to oppose the building up of the kingdom of God. And heavenly angels, both good and bad, in human guise, will be on the battlefield of action, or will be on the field of action. The two opposing parties will continue to exist till the close-up of the last chapter of this earth's history. Satanic agencies are in every city. We cannot afford to be out for a guard. That's not the first time she says that. Satan will use every opportunity to seduce men from their allegiance to God. He, and the angels who fell with him, will appear on earth as men, seeking to deceive. God's angels will also be there as men, both good and bad, and will use every means in their power to defeat the purposes of the enemy. That's the last day of events. So, will spiritualism become a big deal?
32:49 Yeah, and it's going to become a very tangible deal. I don't know if we're actually going to be able to know who's who, or if it's just someone else walking down the street, that's influencing society. Maybe they're going to become a YouTuber. I don't know. What's going to happen? I mean, stranger things have happened. That's the whole point of this channel. This is a new strange normal that's happening. But take it back a step. How is this going, this new form of spiritualism going to be easily accepted by people that can only believe tangible things? Well, they're going to have to believe that this can happen as alien encounters. Oh, we're scream. We're screaming. seeing these aliens. And over time, they'll tell people, oh yeah, yeah, we're actually in line with all your spiritual religions. This is all a form of a way to God, universalism. And by the way, we love those scriptures, and we are those people. Let me tell you where you're wrong in your Bible and how it's been corrupted. That's what's happening. Burn that book. That's what's going to happen. So, keep your eye out and start memorizing your scripture. You might not have it. This is your warning. You might not have your Bible. That's what's coming. So, because my clips are out of order, because it rendered wrong, let's just watch the next clip. What can be the harm in that? There we go. Or not. Okay, play.
34:27 One of my one of my one of my areas that I, you know, kind of pride myself on is in HI communication. And some of the messages that I've received about what these craft actually are, is more extra dimensional, if you will. Actually, the message that was used is I was told that you can best understand us as coming from what you would call the afterlife, which obviously that puts a pretty wild, you know, spiritual component to this. How did you receive that message? How did you receive that message? Was this during an outing where you were trying to make contact? Or was it like, was it like communicated to you telepathically? Yes. So, this was actually while we were out filming for that first Skywatcher documentary. We did a session. It was about a two-hour session. It was a pretty long one. We're trying to understand these craft more directly. And actually, Dr. Gary Nolan was curious how this all worked and volunteered to kind of lead the questioning process.
35:29 And... but this seems like a very difficult field to be dealing with every day. Not as yet, but I really do feel like we've come above our time limit on this topic very, very donné that we've got some very interesting stuff in this series. So, maybe one thing I can jump to before we break down the electronics a little bit more and give you a piece of, you know, what information I could get. And that was actually one of the ... fool about quick hot dogs Let's move right up here. But, there was a few interesting bits that came out of that conversation. First, I could tell we reached a point in the conversation where whatever I was interacting with seemed also to be interfered with, similarly to how the pilot was. And so, I started to get very agitated. I had a lot of emotions that weren't mine, it was, which is kind of odd. In HI communication, I don't really get a lot of emotional transference. And there was, I could hear a voice saying, basically stop this. And that was in a lot of distress. And then the connection ended up getting severed. And this was really, as we were trying to learn more about how frankly we can work together, how these craft operate. And so once again, there were kind of two instances where it felt like we were being interfered with. Uh, when you received the message regarding the origin, I think you said that you got the impression they're like interdimensional from the afterlife. How unambiguous or murky was that reception of that message? How sure are you that it was coming from something outside of you and not just your, your own thinking mind on its own accord? So this is the hardest part of all this.
36:47 And this is why discernment is really critical. I, so, I'll tell you more about the session that Dr. Nolan and I did. And so it began with questions like that, where this information is purely coming from within me. And you're absolutely right. If there's no way to validate that information, it's largely hearsay. So all I can do is relay, this is what I told and try to be objective and independent as to what that is. Now, where things get more interesting with channeling is, you know, Dr. Nolan was curious about how, uh, you know, the, Dr. Nolan was curious about how, uh, the download process would work. You know, is that something that we can actually do and document with Gary's scientific background? I'm a liberal arts guy. I don't really have any scientific background or nor do I have a great deal of interest in it. And so, uh, to start you, Gary wanted to give me a test question. And, uh, the question he gave me, and it's funny, the way he phrased it is I'm going to ask you something I know a great deal about, and you know, nothing about, and he asked me how to, he asked me to explain, how an exotic background is. And I said, well, I'm going to show you how an exotic vacuum object works. And so through over the course of, you know, probably 10 to 15 minutes, I was able to draw out a schematic of what an exotic vacuum object is and how it functions best we can understand. And I show this to Gary and he turns around his computer and shows an image of a schematic that looked, you know, very similar convincing enough for him that there was something to this. And then from there, you know, we started looking at more challenging problems. I have problems that have not been addressed by a physicist, things like the energy storage issue in a Casimir battery. That's one of the issues we tackled.
38:30 And so to your point, those channeled messages, they're interesting. You know, there's hundreds of years of, of UFO channeled messages. There's the Urantia book, you know, uh, whatever this, uh, I am material set material, et cetera. All that's interesting, but then there are other things that are interesting. I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and it's you know i guess it's entertaining to read but you can't do much with that and so that's where you know this psionic asset element comes in once again is that this is practical psi um not so much that channeled information but the fact that we can get reliable downloads uh is is proof of non-local information at least to myself wow okay let's pause it right there there's a lot to talk about what is he doing here this is this is critical to find what what's happening you have to look at it through the lens of the bible otherwise we have we we can't if there's something in life we don't understand chances are the answer is found in the bible always so check this out let's let's define what divination is divination is the practice of seeking knowledge of the future or the unknown known by supernatural means that's the official definition of divination what is he doing well he he he tested something with uh gary nolan to make sure that he was actually using divination and gary said i know something a lot about some vacuum whatever he's called molecule and so he said i want you to draw and help me understand this and uh what happened well he was given that information through channeling through divination you because he was seeking knowledge of the unknown through supernatural means what does the bible say about this well it says in deuteronomy 18 10 through 12 there shall not be found among you anyone who practices divination or susang or agar or a sorcerer or or who cast spells or a medium or spiritualists or one who consults the dead they lumped them all together and interesting that they also lumped in one who contacts the dead doesn't then i've heard christian say this oh it's okay if the dead contact me the bible doesn't mind that as long as i don't contact them no that's not what this is saying you don't contact the dead number one they don't exist when they're dead you don't transcend into a god-like spiritual body when you die that doesn't even make sense why would god come back to earth or thessalonians or whatever to bring her back into the future to earth to get the people at his second coming if they're already up there? Or why would we stay in this body if we can be in a better body right now if we just, you know, unalive ourselves?
41:39 It doesn't logically make sense. It doesn't biblically make sense. And so, and that's why the deception is so big, because everyone who believes the idea that, oh yeah, my dead relative can come back and talk to me, and that's a Christian thing, the Bible's like, look, don't talk to the dead. And I don't, and personally, me, I don't care what you believe about the dead as long as you don't go and talk to them. That's the whole main point. I've had people come up and say, well, you know, the dead, they're in heaven, and I have an emotional story to prove it. You know, I don't care. I don't care. I'm not going to argue with that in the comments about it. What I don't want you doing, Mr. I-believe-that-the-dead-are-floating-around-my-head-somewhere, I want you to believe. that you aren't supposed to talk to them. I want you to believe that you can't communicate with these things. I want you to believe that you can't obtain secret knowledge from them because you're supposed to be going to your God. When you go to these things, it's idolatry, and you're breaking the commandments, which means you've broken all of them, which means I pray for your soul. This is what this means. And so I think you should be very concerned about believing what you believe about the dead. It's a salvation issue. I personally believe that. This is a critical part of this whole ufology deception that's about to happen.
43:03 Okay, enough ranting. Let's go on. The dead, the dead, the dead, the dead. What did I write here? Dead heathen deities worshipped by people as dead people, God who ascended into afterlife. Oh, yeah, that's the whole Bible verses, those four Bible verses I go over in Numbers, Psalms, 1 Corinthians, and Revelation. I'm doing everything out of order tonight, but this is spitballing. So one of the things that this guy named Patrick, he's from Vetted, he was like, when this guy was talking on here, he was saying, look, this is proven. It's proven there's an afterlife now. I think it's funny because, there are people that are saying, I don't think it's proven. Let's go back to that clip real quick. West right now in terms of meaning of the crisis of meaning. And I do think the reality of our spiritual sides and the immortality of that, regardless of the paradigm one chooses to ascribe to it, that's what's so important here.
44:08 So he's like, look, this proves it. This proves it. There's another paradigm, another thing that's happening here. Let me see if I can find a better, better clip of that. And they show up, you know, in a heartbeat. So it really just depends on you as an individual. No, that's not it. Yeah. I find it particularly wild. Okay. Let's, let's go on to, uh, to this guy. He's like, look, I don't believe that. I don't, I don't know what to think about it because he's, he's not, uh, not Christian, but he also doesn't have the same worldview and understanding this through the Bible. Listen to what he says. I mean, I hear what he's saying. It's going in one ear and it's staying there, but I just, you know, I don't agree with that at all. This is not proof. This is not proof of us living on, you know, forever, right? Immortality again, it's nothing's defined, right?
44:57 And that's his interpretation, right? And seeing that, I think that's the problem, right? Again, I'm so confused by the definition of afterlife, right? What that means. What are you saying? Proof of what? Right. So I hope that they're able to provide definitive proof. On a global scale, um, to scientists and get this proven if this is real, then great. But until then, I'm definitely skeptical. Um, I'm not ready to cross the finish line. All right. I'm not ready to celebrate until I crossed the finish line. Let's put it that way. Right. Not going to start celebrating early. Yeah, this is proof of this and proof of that. Not really. Right. I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking about it wrong. It is interesting to think about. Um, I see a lot of different ideas converging.
45:46 Um, and I do love the conversation and the topic. And to be honest with you, I would love to have James on and have that discussion. Right. About this afterlife. Like, what exactly does that mean? I think I'm glad he's using his head and using his noggin there, because I, I agree. This doesn't make a lot of sense. You're not defining everything properly. You can't use, um, you can't say that it's, it's the afterlife when you know that there could, these things are. Are deceptive. Even Jacques Vallee says, these things are a little bit, uh, a little bit, uh, deceptive. They've, they've done some pretty wild things. And so why would you think, oh, well, this is definitive proof when these things are lying. And that's why Christians call them lying spirits. Let's see the next clip. What could it be?
46:42 Uh, it could be anything, uh, somehow this got rendered out of order and it's causing the, me to not know. Yeah. I don't know what's, what's next in my, in my notes, but I'll pause it once I know what's, what's about. Um, do you think that, um, I don't know what the correct term is. I've heard heist. I heard C five. You can let me know what your preferred term is, but do you think the, the attempt to make contact will become much more popular in the coming months and years? And do you think that's a good thing if it becomes like a, a, a very mainstream hobby going out with, by yourself or with other people going through your own protocols and. Trying to engage or interact with the phenomenon. I do think it's a good thing and I think it will become more popular and I'll, I'll give you a very personal example. Uh, so my, my, my extended family is quite skeptical of all of this.
47:36 Okay. All right. All right. I got to pause it here because the clip that's out of order is his back story on how, uh, why they're so skeptical and they have good reason to be skeptical. He grew up in a pair in the area. And the Bible belt, and he's a Protestant Christian. He admits that on the show, he says, look, I, I, I, I'm a Protestant Christian. We grew up this way. And, um, my family is from Roswell. My dad was in the military and we grew up all around this UFO stuff. Yeah. And so, and so he says they were very, very frustrated and very skeptical of what was going on. And so I had to bring them out and show them, this is the rest of the story. And, you know, became aware of that. Of, you know, this information coming out and my involvement in it. And over the Christmas holiday, you know, I had some family visiting and took them out, uh, and showed them the reality of this and to take, and this is me, like me speaking as a person that has never really been able to share this part of my life with my family.
48:42 Other than my, you know, my wife, obviously that the, I can't tell you how much that meant to me, like, as a person. I have to now have, you know, my family, no longer thinking that this is ridiculous being like, oh my gosh, that was so profound to them. And so shocking that it was very meaningful to me and to them for them to have that experience. What was that experience exactly? Being able to, uh, use human initiated contact to, um, summon an orb, you know, within, I would say probably 300 to 500 feet. Okay. Okay. Wow. yeah that's that's pretty amazing i thought he would stick on that point a little bit and go wait what and what exactly happened but he went wow next question um i forget his name post disclosure world is a channel that's pulled from but um this is the intro this is the intro that we missed i'm gonna go ahead and play that now so you you can get the backstory of of this guy's christian upbringing watch this you said on x that you learned you were psychic very early on in your life could you go into how how that played out yeah absolutely so actually my earliest memory as a kid is of a psychic experience i was four years old i was sitting on a kitchen countertop and i fell off at just the right angle and i hit my head broke my arm and then i separated from my body um i can still to this day remember you know basically floating above my physical form which is on the ground crying and just thinking this is an odd experience and my life going forward from there was kind of a series of you know similar strange anomalous occurrences and as a child you know i grew up in texas uh typical kind of protestant upbringing and i learned that you know these are not subjects that everyone necessarily wants to hear about you know things like uh you know having premonitions of my grandfather dying before before he actually did or you know there was a large wooded area behind our house where i spent a ton of time as a kid and i would you know see things out there various spirits land spirits whatever you'd like to call them and so i just you know kind of internalized this as a kid now on the flip side of that i actually grew up at the ufo topic being very front and center in my life my grandfather uh was an air force engineer and i was a pilot and i was a pilot and i was a pilot and i was a pilot and i was a pilot intelligence officer at roswell he was first uh sent there on tdy in 1947 from carswell air force base he's serving under general ramey so the lines kind of add up there and then my mom was actually born in roswell in 1950 so the ufo topic has always been you know perfectly acceptable in my family and as kids typically do you know you gravitate towards uh the other side of that so i was always much more interested in kind of those you know mystical spiritual experiences and mind you this was you know uh early 90s growing up there wasn't the internet i didn't have really much of a way to learn from others as to what this was you know the only uh real resource you had back then was barnes and nobles new age section which uh wasn't all that complete let's say so just kind of had to stumble through these things and um you know go off to college and in 2003 i had my first uh major contact experience i was up in middlebury vermont and i there was an event where i had three hours of missing time and i also was physically moved about a mile from my last conscious memory and so to this day that's something i'm still kind of processing but the way it presented itself
52:33 i didn't actually immediately associate that with the ufo phenomenon um i did see entities before i you know my conscious memory you know kind of went away but um i wasn't sure what to make of it and it wasn't until many years later you know as an adult i i had a uh a boss of mine i told him about this experience and he recommended ballet's passport to megonia oh boy there's a lot to talk about so um he first saw it had a young age he had this duality of the soul idea uh presented to him where he saw himself doesn't mean you've left your body this this whole thing what probably is happening here is that these things are projecting the idea of you leaving your body into your mind or projecting what they see into your mind it's a form not perfect but it's a form of possession that's essentially what it is you are allowing something to remote view through you and you are seeing what they see which is them hovering over you kind of scary and um but to put that into your mind as if oh look i'm seeing myself because i must have fallen and hit my head doesn't make sense it doesn't make logical sense it doesn't make logical sense it doesn't make biblical sense and so that's why this whole idea this whole religion has been formed out of this whole thing all right so and then he goes on to say look this is i've been growing up in a very different way i've been grown as protestant christian working in ufology as my both my parents were in uh roswell and it was a very different way of growing up and it was a very for those of you that don't know roswell new mexico was the first 1940s um big deal that happened that's that's the whole clip at the beginning of this program where we had the news nation talking about how uh the vatican has kind of been involved in 1933 and something was going on back then and they might have articles that talk about this stuff and then we pulled scientists over from germany that were in the nazi war that were playing with uh reaching out to these things psionics and suddenly we have gifts fall in new mexico where they were having their first um uh what was it nuclear tests or nuclear development it all kind of adds up if you really think about it very closely because these things are the demonic entities that's that's essentially what they do they love to see war and destruction they love to hang out in that in that area they love they are very very very interested in what we're doing with our nuclear technology because it can really destroy us really easy okay so what's next on the agenda here i think my notes are finally lining up here that was the intro growing up in a protestant family um uh and and he's going to talk a little bit about how christians are concerned about this and should they be concerned about it listen to what he says about this this is this is i thought this was fascinating you said on x that you learned you were psychic very early on in your life could you go into recently it was reported by ask a poll that representative tim burchett of tennessee he's concerned that ufo whistleblower jim uh baker is a plant jake baker excuse me is a plant uh and then i saw someone comment and say that he probably didn't know that he was a psychic or that he's a proponent or anything like that and i thought oh that is interesting and i'm really excited to hear that and i'll be sure to do a quick recap on that later on okay so right now i'm working on a a new series um um called events with your own power and fuel which is a programme for the spiritual environment and um and also for all of us their main punkt of activity for those of you who are watching on youtube it's a podcast or a podcast um where i teach for the three-day sermon at a conference with the university of saxona and i'm glad to be here and i'm excited to be in the same room at the same place um and so i'm going to go ahead and start with the first question and then i can go back to that and then i can go back to the next one and i'm going to go back to the second question and i will explain what that means and then the next one So unwind that. All right. Before we answer that, I'm going to leave a little clip here. If you enjoy this, and if you want some commentary and the understanding through the Bible about this stuff, and you think this is important as it pertains to last day events, as they say, eschatology, which is the study of last day events according to Bible prophecy, and understanding this stuff from the spiritual standpoint through the Bible, the lens of the Bible, join Patreon, patreon.com slash strange normal.
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59:07 This is reported in virtually every culture throughout the history of humanity and probably long before we have written records of it. It's always been there. It's really the paradigm in which we choose to view those experiences and what these entities actually are. And so I think at this point, actually ascribing a belief system to what this is when we have so little evidence seems very perfunctory to me. And I know, you know, if you come at this from a Judeo Christian background, this quickly becomes, you know, a dualistic good versus evil. There are plenty of other cultures. Out there that view this, um, as something that exists without outside of material reality that we just don't often have the ability to peer into, whether that be, you know, the gin, the fairy, the Davis, et cetera.
1:00:01 And so I think we're real quick as humans to try to ascribe labels to things. And I don't think it fits very well for where we're at today. Now as to answer your question about whether or not this is dangerous, I don't find this to be dangerous myself. I've done this for a long time. Now, the one caveat I always put with this is your own baggage as an individual can be brought into these experiences. And so if you've had, if you have negative preconceived notions as to what this phenomenon is, it sometimes can manifest in that way. Now, I think the work done in order to integrate those experiences allows for a much richer experience of the phenomenon as a whole. Okay. So did you hear what he said there? Really interesting stuff. Because he said, I don't believe that this thing is negative, but you, you does have some negative influences when something happens that you bring baggage into your, your belief system that might believe that this is negative or you have negative feelings, you know, like a bunch of hoops, basically.
1:01:10 In other words, what he's trying to say is, and I'm just going to say it blatantly, yeah, this has been. This has been negative for some people. Why? We're not exactly sure, but usually when people see this thing as negative, negative things happen because they are probably religious. They probably have this idea that, oh, I think these are demonic. Demonic things are going to happen to you if you start dabbling in demonology and you know the truth. If you don't know the truth, and they can deceive you. And they're going to play along as if they are your friendly spirit. That's what's happening right now. So, so just because you, you dabble in this stuff and you see this stuff as very friendly just means you're more deceived by this.
1:02:04 That's what this means. Okay. So here, let's take it to the next level though. What if these things start appearing one day and they're like, oh yeah, by the way, we know all your secrets. We've been watching you for years. We've been watching you for decades. And uh, that guy over there that the, the righteous pastor, he's not a good guy. And let me tell you about the list of things that he does wrong. You think I, you think I'm just being silly about this. You think I'm just pulling this out of my, out of randomness. This hasn't actually been stated in ufology yet, but in other countries across the pond, it has, but not in ufology, in spiritualism. When these things manifest themselves in people, in churches, they often say, hey, let me tell you the sins that we've been watching. Let me tell, let me tell you all the sins about this guy.
1:03:02 This is why it's going to be so important. And I haven't found the quote yet. There's some, there's some quote that I want to, I want to present in the channel that I've heard before, but I haven't been able to find it, where it talks about how at the very end, um, there's going to be a group of people that are all going to be in the church. There's going to be people that are all for this and all for the idea of, of saying, this is a bad thing. Don't, don't go worshiping these things. And then all of a sudden it flips and they're like, don't know. It's okay. Let's not talk about this. Uh, I'm just going to go hide in my house. It's at this point, I think, I think that people are going to be like, you know what? Uh, this thing's, uh, coming at us, number one, physically, but it's also coming at us with a. Uh, social ramifications. I don't think I want to go spread the message that, that, uh, that this is the Antichrist.
1:03:53 I don't want to go spread the message that, that, that, uh, this spiritual manifestation is not really the manifestation I'm looking, I, I, uh, that, that is, the Bible talks about. It's not, it's not the second coming of God, because if they do that, then this thing, you're going against the grain. You're going against the grain of this thing, and it's going to be very, very mad at you. But as Christians, we don't care if we're put to death by the sword, the guillotine, the, by fire at the stake. We don't care. And we know that they're going to try every single social ramification to destroy us. No matter if it's pulling things from your past, what you've said online, anything that has happened, it's going to happen.
1:04:44 So deal with it now. Who cares? I'm going to, I'm going to take it two steps further, too. What if, and this is just playing with ideas, right now I'm just spitballing, so if I'm, if I'm, if I'm incorrect, then tell me in the comments, but what if the amount you care about what people think about you is you idolizing yourself? You're made in the, in, in God's form. You are loved. And this isn't going to be some, you know, woo-woo sermon. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. about how you can do no wrong, and this is, this is, you are perfect. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you are, even though you've done wrong, you are forgiven. And when you are forgiven, who cares? You're going to heaven, and the devil has no chance of that. You've done wrong, and also you should remember, every single one of your friends have, too. Every single one of your family has.
1:05:51 that potentially might have terrible things revealed about yourself because of what you're doing and what you're revealing about this spiritualism. The difference is, they're not trying because they're too concerned about what people will think about themselves. Hmm. They're too concerned about how they look. Pride. Hmm. Was that the original sin? Am I touching nerves tonight? Am I stepping on toes? It's time. It's time, folks. It's time to stand up. Number one, get over your sin. And the only way to do that is by helping others. We did something at church this last weekend. I had gone around to different people just around the church vicinity, my local church, and I said, you know, I'd really like to meet my neighbors.
1:06:47 Meet the people that are around the area, and I'm a real estate agent, so I wanted to know more about their property and stuff. There's one property that was, right beside the church, was quite large, and I was like, man, it'd be really neat if they were moving out someday, or maybe they could give us a portion of that so we could build a bigger church. So I thought, you know what? I'll go over there and ask them about it. So I went over there, and I kid you not, there was so many bushes, so many things. I couldn't get my car through some of the spaces because it was terrible to try to get through here. There's two houses on this property. One was very hard to find. And the other one was right in front of me, so I pulled up. There was bushes that covered the sidewalk. There was bushes that had grown up so you could just see the roof. It was obvious no one lived there.
1:07:40 And when I looked in my real estate app at the people that lived there, there were 97 and one a little bit younger. And I thought, this is very bad if I find something that I don't want to find here. Knocked on the door, no one answered, no one answered. I thought, okay, let's go to the next house. So I went to the next house. I couldn't get down the driveway. The potholes were so big, I was going to bottom my car out. So I started walking. And you know, no, you're in the foothills of Tennessee. You don't know who's going to come out the door with something in their hand that's potentially dangerous. And so I walked up to the house, and I got halfway there, and someone said, hey, what are you doing? And I go, hey, I'm just wondering if I can help you. I'm from the church next door. Oh, the most loving man came out. And he was 70 years old, and he said, I've been here since before that church was here.
1:08:35 There was a bar where that church was, and the only person that came over to me to talk with me since that time was someone from the bar. Nobody has come over from the church. I said, well, how can we help you? I want to help you out. And he said, well, I don't have any money. And I said, I'm not here to take your money. I just want to help you out and talk with him about his property and stuff, which I didn't want to do. Which we did. We talked about that, and he was very receptive. And so as this went on, I went back to the church, told him the story, and I said, we need to go out and help this guy. Look, you go into the Bible, and what does it talk about? It talks about how there is a good way to do things. How do you do things? Well, what is true religion? It's not going to church every day. What it is is helping out two things.
1:09:22 The Bible defines it as helping others and keeping yourself unspotted. You don't have time to look up that Bible verse because I'm just spitballing tonight. But the second thing I noticed was Isaiah 58. Isaiah 58 talks about the fast that we have chosen. It's not to fast as in not eat, but the idea that when you go do good to other people, God is closer to us, and he fixes our lives. That's the fast that God has chosen. So if you want to get close, if you want true religion, what you do is you go help other people. So we spent all day today, that's why I'm sunburned, and I'm coming in here very quick because we had a lot to do today. But I spent, me and about 15 other people spent the day in a work bee chopping this guy's bushes down, mowing his grass.
1:10:17 He was just one guy living on this enormous property because his mother was in the hospital. I don't want to say too much because he, you know, he's a good guy. He probably doesn't want me talking about him, but I won't say his name. But it's interesting that everyone came out, and I believe the more you help other people, the closer you are to God, and the more God helps. Because you can be close to God when you do the things that God wants you to do. Be kind to your neighbors. Help the people who can't help themselves. Do things that make it so without... looking as if you are trying to do something for yourself. And we did that. We helped them quite a bit. And so I say that hesitantly because I don't want to throw my cards out before everybody, but this is just a game-changing idea that you don't work for salvation.
1:11:17 You help other people, and God fills you with that amazing, amazing divinity. Not that you are divine, but... His divinity in you that fixes your life, your problems, everything. So, where did I go with that? What was I talking about? Well, I was talking about how you can be closer to God. Man, I had a whole point, but I hope you understood the whole point behind that. Where were we? What are we talking about? I'm off on a rabbit trail. What power do we have? Okay, so he's talking about contacting these things. Let's keep going. Recently, it was reported by Ask a Poll. You wrote on X, you wrote, why should we wait for governments to disclose the truth when the people have the power to do it themselves? What power do we have, in your perspective, to actually get transparency of this phenomenon in terms of our knowledge and understanding without having to wait for governments to open the books?
1:12:21 I mean, I think there's a few different ways. First and foremost, is individual experience. And I, you know, all the efforts of Skywatcher aside, my concern is that there's no amount of footage or evidence or proof that can convince everyone. Now, what Skywatcher can do is actually, and Jake has said we're doing this, is host events to actually show the reality of this to individuals. I also think the ability to do this is accessible, you know, not necessarily to everyone, but the people that are willing to put in the work, you know, required to develop the skills, I think they can do this at home. And I really think in order for disclosure to happen, it's going to take a great deal of personal exposure. Once again, you know, we can show the best footage in the world, and I think people are still going to tear it apart. I think you really need that personal firsthand experience.
1:13:14 We're going to do our best. We have a lot of plans that are coming over the next few months. But I would, you know, challenge people, you know, if you're going to say that this is impossible, we'll give it a shot first. And see, there you go. That's what they're trying to do. And so we're going to have a lot more of this happening with individuals reaching out to these things. They want to become divinators. Divinators? It sounds like terminators. Divinators? I'm going to make a new word today. They're going to become divinators. Diviners? Diviners? Is that the word? Anyway, let's move on to the last two clips. I have on this. So what's the plan? They're trying to, what's this guy's plan as a psionic asset? What's the plan forward and what they're trying to do? I thought this was interesting. Here we go. Yeah, I know that Jake Barber in one of the interviews, I think he said something to the effect that you can persuade the UAP to actually land.
1:14:17 Now, I know you guys had an outing and you got some interesting imagery, but from my understanding, the craft or the egg was moving so fast, you couldn't see with the naked eye. Do you think it's doable that you could actually get one of these eggs to land? Or is that something that the egg would only be willing to do within the confines of some kind of aerospace activity, aerospace company activity? So there are numerous reports, you know, over the past, you know, in the 20th century of material being gifted. Now, what the exact circumstances were, were for that, I am not sure. I think there was a lot of it was just luck of the draw in terms of, you know, people having to be in the right place at the right time. And I think that is potentially a repeatable process.
1:15:09 And that's one of the things that we're working out right now. Yeah, there you go. Well, okay. So that's, that's what's happening is he doesn't know exactly how this happened, but these things are giving things. So, you know, I think that's, that's, that's essentially what I think is going to come out as the big reveal in this whole thing. Advanced society to a point, because we were lobbying, you know, cannonballs at each other for first 5,000 years. So what are we doing now? Okay, we're flying in F-16s. That's great. But could there be something else? Could the big reveal be zero point energy? Could, could it, these things come and say, we can solve world hunger? We could solve your energy problem. We could do, we could show you how gravity works.
1:16:02 Are they going to come and show that to us? Because that's, that's what science and sci-fi, that's what they really talk about on these things. Are we being prepared for this, that we just lose our minds when they show us this? So we go, oh yeah, these, these things are so smart. We need to worship them. I don't know. That's, that's what's moving forward. Right? Where did the, so, so this idea of psionic, psionic assets, is this a government thing? Yeah, it is. And that's where it came from. So this is the final clip I have for you. Yeah. How did the legacy program even come up with the idea to have psionic assets? You know, where did they get that idea? Where did that come from? So this gets back to, you know, a lot of the early U.S. government interest in psi.
1:16:51 And, you know, for the legacy program in particular, I'm going to make some speculations, but, you know, most people don't realize that U.S. interest in psi phenomenon actually comes from the Soviets. In the early 1970s, there were reports of what the Soviets called psychotronic research. The Soviets were always much more accepting of these ideas. And so you saw, you know, throughout the 70s, the development of programs such as Stargate, that we're looking at what are the practical applications of psionic abilities. And, you know, Stargate being a remote viewing program, you know, viewing real world targets is a great example. Now, from there, you obviously get into pushing the envelope as to what's possible. And that term, psionic asset, you know, people, people have asked me, you know, what does that mean exactly? And to be fair, I don't love the term, but the definition of it could easily be ascribed to, this is using psychic abilities for real world applications.
1:17:48 It's not just mediumship, et cetera. And that's what you're paying for. When you're doing the research. When you pay taxes. So I'm not saying that you shouldn't pay taxes. Don't get me wrong. But I do think that we need to understand what our government is actually doing with the money. So read into that how you want. This is not a public service announcement. This is not a political affiliation statement. But I do think that no matter which party is in and talk in the seat, Democrat or Republican, we should probably know what they're spending money on. Because I'm not thrilled they're spending money on researching psionics, on researching divination. That's not cool. Not cool. I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
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