2:55 Welcome to Strange Normal. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what's going on. And there is a lot going on. And I know I say that every single time, but there really is a lot going on. And it seems to happen right when I leave. As soon as I go on vacation, I've been saying, man, there's such a lull. I don't know if I'm going to have content for next week. And then we have like three big things happen all at once, right when I decide, hey, I got to go out of town for a little bit. And so we haven't had a program for a little while. But man, has there ever been stuff going on about this stuff? And just to give you a snippet of what's happening so far, I'm going to play a few clips. We're not going to waste any time here. We're going right into the program, folks. And no co-host tonight. We're just going to talk through it. And I encourage you to chat. Talk to me in the comments, because it's me and you guys tonight. And we're going to have a one-on-one or one-on-many, I guess, talking back and forth. Thank you.
3:52 Healing Hearts Ministry for the Super Chat. And here we go. Yeah. And then I also think on some level, people are too focused on government kind of recrimination. It is time for transparency. Transparency. Transparency. Transparency. And not on the fact that this is the nature of reality. These things might make you a biblical literalist. Ezekiel saw the wheel, baby. First chapter. I'm with you. Do you believe that the phenomenon is the next big, great religion in the world? Yeah, basically. The phenomenon has probably already influenced all the other religions already. So it's just, maybe we're looking at the source code. Yeah, if you're looking at the source code. We're at the graphic user interface level. It's like IP header, and we're getting into, finally getting into the information flow. In her book, American Cosmic, Diana Pasolka makes the pretty convincing case that many seemingly divine contact experiences in the past could have actually been what we now call UFO experiences.
4:52 Just take the case of St. Francis of Assisi. His close confidant, Brother Leo, documents the experience, describing sound and fury creating atmospheric sparks, a spinning disc, telepathic communication between Francis and the disc, and then Francis is wounded by rays of light. Francis interprets these hand wounds as the stigmata of Christ, but Pasolka speculates that maybe this was just radiation damage from a UFO experience. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's so much going on. I'm just going to pause it for a second. If I don't see these red flags in the chat, I'll know you guys just aren't listening. There's so much going on here, and I know for sure that this is not what, at least not what I believe. So what they said so far, and I paused it, there's so much more we're going to talk about, but the Bible is UFO experiences. They've got that all turned around. It's UFO experiences that we see in the Bible, but they're not UFOs, at least not in the sense that, Hollywood has portrayed them, and spinning discs or these things that go around, these machines in the sky, which people like to say, what they're seeing is glowing lights, orbs. They're actually seeing these, what they call, what the Bible calls, stars of the heavens. You know, back in Revelation, it says that Satan swept a third of the stars of heaven out. Well, it's literally what the Bible calls these things. These are, they're fallen angels, is what we're seeing.
6:22 And they're going to present themselves both as the good and the bad guys. This is, and they're going to appeal to the more scientific-minded, the ones who believe that they're only going to believe if they see evidence, atheists, the scientists. We're going to see it completely change. We're beginning to see that. This part of this one section of this documentary, by the way, this is a, let me see if I can get the actual name of this. I should have introduced it better. But let me bring that up here real quick. This is called, this is called UFO Whistleblower, David Grutch Tells Me Everything. And this is from a documentary that was produced with Yes Theory from Michael someone. I'll get that in a second. I should have had it up here in front of me. If someone knows, they can go ahead and say it in the chat. You'll probably get it faster than I can. But it was from the Jesse Michaels documentary. He just came out with this two-hour long thing where he interviewed David Grutch. And if you don't know, most of you do by watching this channel. David Grutch has recently been the most recent Pentagon official that has come out and said, hey, there's something big happening. And I want to tell you, it's true. All this stuff is happening. And I'm going to give Congress, a testimony under oath. And so he's saying all this crazy stuff that's happening, even up to biologics. And there's the narrative, there's the truth, and there's the lie that's being pushed into our ideas, which is the narrative, basically. And we're going to get further into that. But I want to touch a little bit on what they said here first. The Bible is a UFO experience, true. We're seeing angels. I'm 100% confident of it. We're seeing angels in the sky. And I find it fascinating that Francis of Assisi, back then, is the name that the Pope chose today. Is that right?
8:36 Is that right? I'm second-guessing myself now. I find that fascinating. I'm going to look at the chat real quick to see what you guys are talking about. I see a lot of red flags. Very good. Your donation was rejected, but I keep praying to watch. I don't know why it was rejected. Maybe it's a YouTube problem. Go ahead and try it again if that's what you want. I feel a little sad that my donating was rejected. I don't know why. Let's see. Don't worry, everything. Hey, strangers. You're right. It's fascinating what's going on. Let's continue watching that and see what else he's saying about religion, because we actually got two clips on that before we get into some of the other meat on this real quick. Francis chose his... name off the previous one that prayed for animals and earth, and apparently also had these experiences with UFOs and thought he was getting radiated or something. Anyway, let's continue. It was reasonably religious, but nothing like crazy, kind of average. Studied physics. I became kind of agnostic. I was like, eh, I don't know about this, all this kind of woo-woo, you know, stuff that the church exposes and stuff. And then, oddly enough, I've kind of come full circle in some sense where there is this higher sentience. There seems to be, I think, we're created beings in some manner, whether it be some PAMSpermia from little g-gods or big g-gods. I think about the people, the journey I had, and the most random people that I've known that were placed in my life like 14 years ago, shut the door in my office at NGA, and they're like, look, dude. And they started telling me, this stuff that i was and they brought these like crazy intel reports i guess i was kind of the right guy that was chosen to do this thing i guess but um so yeah i've come full circle in my belief system for me it's inspiring because it's like this idea that it's just you know eat drink and be merry or whatever you know you just you you live you pay taxes you work a job and then you die yeah that's meaning the life and just like the vatican observatory saying yeah we're like cool with other sentient life that shows god paints like a you know broad brush and that's pretty you know and i the catholic church is very accepting on that and it just shows you know god's providence and god's uh creative powers if there's actually other interesting sentience besides us this is so fascinating uh for for one i think it's fascinating that people say eat drink and be merry as if that's a positive statement because if they read the bible that's actually a quote from the bible because each drink and be merry, and tomorrow we die. I think that's quoting, actually, a person that doesn't believe in God. I've got to read the story again, but eat, drink, and be merry, not a good thing.
11:36 Of course, it's always good to eat. It's always good to drink. I have some grape juice. I have some orange juice. I mean, come on. You've got to have something to drink, but eat, drink, and be merry is usually termed with don't care about anything in life. It all doesn't matter. You're all going to get to the same place anyway. The Catholic Church paints with a broad brush. What in the world does he mean by that? I'm not even quite sure, but I think it means that the Catholic Church is trying to accept everybody. They're here opening with open arms. You're an alien? Great, we'll baptize you, which they've said before. Come on in. You can be part of us. We accept anybody, and no, it doesn't matter what they believe, just as long as they worship with us. Worship us. Worship whatever. Small g, capital G, whatever. It's all the same. Is it? Is it, folks? I think that's a dangerous thing to say, because there's a lot of different beliefs, and what you believe about the character of God determines who you're actually worshiping, because there is a little difference. There is a little difference. There is a little difference. There is a little difference. There is a little difference. There is a little difference. There is a little difference. God, his name is Lucifer. He's the snake of old, and he wants to be worshiped, as Isaiah 14, 12 says. So I think we are on a difficult path if you want to accept what the Catholic Church is saying through this thing, and you don't want to do that. Let me look at the chat real quick, and we'll get into the next one here. Let me see what we got coming up. I want to know their belief systems.
13:15 This is what the next clip is going to talk about. Death, and you can be God. You can be all-powerful. You're an all-powerful being. That's the next clip that we're talking about with David Grutch, and this comes from that documentary at the very end. They put all this religion stuff at the very end, so once you're all into it, don't worry about it. You're being fed this stuff. At the very beginning, if you know how the mind works, it accepts everything at the end, but at the very beginning, you're kind of in tune, and you're trying to think, hey, is this right? Is this wrong? Is this wrong? Is this wrong? Same thing with music, same thing with movies, until a certain point, and then all of a sudden, you're stepping into a zone where you're just kind of like mesmerized by what's going on in the documentary, and you're just basically, your brain subconsciously starts accepting things. That's why in the middle of it and at the end of it is the most interesting, strange stuff that oftentimes is put. Let's see, Mr. Chat, I see red flags in here. Very good. Reinterpret the Bible, Jerry says. Yeah, that has been the Catholic faith. They have also have the catechism, which is their own version of what's going on, I guess. Matthew, oh yeah, Julianne says, where is Matthew tonight? Well, that's a surprise. I'll let you tell. Matthew's going to be here next week, but Matthew's doing just fine. I asked him if he wanted to come in tonight. He said, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He says, not yet. Not yet. He'll be in soon. And we're going to shout out to Matthew, because I'm sure you're watching. If you're not listening or preparing, you'll probably listen to this later. Do what thy welt. Yes, Jonathan, that's part of the whole thing. Just do what you want. Who cares?
15:08 Let's get into this next clip. It's really fascinating. Watch this. Yeah. And then I also think, on some level, people are too focused on government kind of recrimination. It is time for transparency. Transparency. Transparency. Transparency. And not on the fact that this is the nature of reality. These things might make you a biblical literalist. Ezekiel saw the wheel, baby. First chapter. I'm with you. Do you believe that the phenomenon is the next big, great religion in the world? Yeah, basically. The phenomenon has probably already influenced all the other religions already. So it's just... I can't get that thing to stop. We've already seen that clip, and I was trying to get it to pause, but there's no way to find it. This is what happens when you don't have a co-host and you don't have time to flip between the next thing. You're watching this live, folks. I'll cut this out later. Okay, where is that clip? So I can fast forward through that part.
16:06 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Do, do, do, do. Yeah, the software's bugging out today. It's not giving me controls on the... On the video. I don't know what's going on. Why? Why are you so mean to me? I don't want to restart. I lose this dream. Ah, here we go. Okay, now we're going to flip into it. Okay, here's the next clip. It brings science and religion together in a way that these two things have been sort of cleaved or bifurcated since the Enlightenment. possibly reconcile those two things which is would be absolutely amazing where you could read the bible and you could say some of this stuff could actually happen in the context of aliens creationism this might actually prove certain religious texts and what they've espoused with like you know little g gods and at least for me you know spiritually at least my belief system it's certainly opened my eyes to the you know the universe is not clockwork everything we see in our day-to-day life is not everything that exists and if there's truly other sentient intelligences i mean it just inspires my curiosity like i'd like to know what their belief systems are and how maybe we'll find out that that matches with ours and it actually bolsters our you know maybe we can ascend to the per year video in the berkshires you want to repeat it yeah i mean the the the ending result was was is the universe ignoring us because we're not at the center of the universe we're not at the center of the universe we're not at the center of their level yet. We haven't reached that height of awareness as a society, as a people. Is this an opportunity for us to examine ourselves to figure out why we have not been a part of this bigger ecosystem? Alright, let's pause right there for a second. What I think is interesting about this is I don't always like going into the theory and back into the, what do you call it, the lore of these UFOs. I like to keep things very biblical, but what I find very fascinating about this is David Gretch was part of your government, and he talked a lot with other officials. He said he interviewed 40 different officials about this, and I'm sure they talked all about this theory that they're talking about right now. So, friends, the reason we're going over this is because this is what your government believes. This is what the people leading the country believe about what they're seeing in the sky, that this thing's coming down, and we're going to confirm.
19:04 Confirm our belief system with them. This is called confirmation bias. If you already believe something and they tell you, yes, that's what the truth is, you automatically establish and harden your belief on it. The Bible talks about that. We're all going to be on one side or the other. We're going to believe what the Bible says, or we're going to believe what these things are coming and telling us. It's a big deal, because religions are going to get on board. You've seen, if you haven't seen Starfall, StarfallMovie.com, you've got to go watch it. At the end, I talk about that. It's amazing to me. Even though it's two years old, it's still, there's nothing I really have to update about it. There's a few things that have happened since then, but everything is happening according to what the Bible says. I'm just reiterating what Bible prophecy says, and there you go. It's happening right now. Let's get back into this and see what else this guy's going to say. Interesting friend visiting us. We have evidence of non-human intelligence. One of the most powerful witness testimonies that I've seen in all the interviews that I've consumed over the past three years was one of the girls from the aerial school case when Dr. John Mack was interviewing her, and he's trying to understand how the telepathy was working. And then she goes out of nowhere, I think in space there's no love, but down here there is.
20:34 That's like the near-death experiences like Proof of Heaven by Eben Alexander, a medical doctor. Yeah. Yeah. He has a very interesting scientific outlook of his near-death, and that was like this overarching loving energy something when he ascended to this. It sounded like another dimensional plane, if you will. All right, hold it. Number one, before we get into this death thing, where did this come from? Oh, how do we start talking about death just randomly all of a sudden it came up? We're talking about UFOs. We're talking about UAP. We're talking about seeing things in the sky and having this strange experience. Where did death come from? It seems like it doesn't even match. And I don't think these guys are plants, if you know what I mean by plant, where someone in some high society or has a lot of money said, I'm going to make David Grutsch. I have a much more spiritual idea of how this stuff happens, and I hate to say it like this, but we're all influenced. I pray every day that I'm not a tool of evil, that I don't be used by the devil or his minions because this is how it works. You're talking, you're cutting up. You're just spit firing all this stuff, and all of a sudden you're talking and you're spreading lies like this.
22:00 And you're spreading lies like this, and you're the one who's separating the lies between the devil and the minions. And what happens? You keep your mouth shut, and you keep the secrets. And you don't listen to what the devil is saying. You keep your mouth shut. You keep your mouth shut. And you keep your eyes shut. You keep your eyes shut if you don't know what's going on in your life. And you keep your eyes shut, and you keep your ears shut. like this, saying that, oh yeah, yeah, death, well, it's just this loving area you go into. After you die, you don't have to worry about it. There's no condemnation. There's no God that is an authority, a moral authority over you. Once you ascend or you become a part of this greater plan and that your conscience is somehow floating around up there like some ethereal strangeness, that's not how it works, folks. That's not what the Bible says. I've said this over and over again, and I'm going to tear it out again. What does the Bible say about death? Let's look at this. What is the soul? Can the soul die? I mean, let's really dig into this. Ezekiel 18.20, the soul that sinneth, it shall die. The wages of sin is death. How can you be dead if you're floating around after death? When you die, you die. That's what the Bible says. You die, you're dead. You're dead. When you die, you die. When you die, you die. That's what the Bible says. there's going to be a resurrection. You're going to either be resurrected to be condemned, or you're going to be resurrected to live eternally. The Bible does say that. Revelation 16.3, every living soul died in the sea. Died. It says that. Was this a part of the first lie that Satan told Eve through the snake? Yes. Genesis 3.4, the serpent said to the woman, you shall not surely die, and he's been saying that over and over again. So anything occultic, anything of the devil, always reiterates this same thing.
23:33 Die. I will not die. Revelation 12.9, the serpent of old called the devil and Satan. So we know that's the serpent that was in Genesis, is the devil. That's no big deal. So what happens when you die? Well, look at Ecclesiastes 9.5, 6, and 10. It says, the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing. Nothing. Their love, their hatred, their envy have now perished. There is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave. So when do we live again? Well, I'd already said it, but I'm going to give you some proof verses here. Job 14.12, man lies down and does not rise till the heavens are no more. 1 Thessalonians 4.16 and 17, the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout and the dead will not rise. And the dead will not rise. And the dead will not rise. And the dead in Christ will rise. What is the point of the second coming if we're already up there in heaven? And thus we shall already always be with the Lord. Jesus, some people say, well, Jesus and the thief went to heaven. Well, let's take a look at that very carefully because in John 20.17, it says, when Mary came to Jesus, he says, I have not yet ascended to my father. This is after he had been risen. He was already God, but I mean, he had risen out of his flesh into his immortal body. And he was like, well, I have not yet gone to my father. Don't cling to me. So how could he have been that day with the thief if it wasn't, if he hadn't been to heaven yet? And Luke 23.43 says, and Jesus said to him, surely I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise. That's the one that, that they always quote, but there's a comma wrong because the commas aren't inspired. There was no punctuation in the original language. So it says, actually, it says, I surely say to you today, comma, you will be with me in paradise. And so there's, there's many more proof texts of that. If you want to study this deeper, you need to, you need to study this deeper because there's, there's, here's, here's just a slew of them. Psalms 104.29, they return to dust.
25:57 Ecclesiastes 9.5, they know nothing, possesses no mental power. Psalms 146.4, has nothing to do with anything on earth. Ecclesiastes 9.6, does not live. Second Kings 21, waits in the grave. Job 17.13, and does not, does not continue. Job 14.1 and 2. This is, this is a big deal. So whenever you hear someone say, oh, you know what, death is part of the ascension. Death is something that happens that you don't actually die. And that you can guarantee it's not a Christian talking about this, even though he might say, well, I believe in, yeah, my, my beliefs are completely different. They've swapped, they've changed around. You know, I've come full circle. You might've gone full circle, but you haven't come to the understanding because you're not reading the, the truth. And I, I, and I'm sure, and my, my heart goes out to him because there's a lot of, a lot of disinformation out there. And I'm not saying that he, is 100% deceived or that he is purposely spreading disinformation. Everyone is trying their best to understand this concept right now. And so what we need to do is pray for him because the Bible says something completely different. And I truly believe Roger Murnau, and I wish I had that clip, has some amazing stuff to say about this. Roger Murnau says that these beings are coming out and they're, they're demonic. Demonic beings are coming and saying they're from a long ways away in outer space coming to present error unless we do something. And there's big destruction happening unless we do something to avoid it. So I think that's a, that's a big deal. Let's continue watching this and see what exactly is happening and what else he says about this. He had basically a fasciitis of the brain where it was like, you know, he had, you know, he was probably going to be brain dead if he even survived. But he miraculously, miraculously came back and he was totally fine. But all this knowledge and all this stuff he experienced. That's a super common thing in alien abduction experiences, whether it's the aerial school or, uh, commander George Hoover of the Navy actually talked about this. Aliens often come down and they say, you don't know how powerful you are. You don't know how, how amazing and powerful you are. You can be like God. Have we heard that before? You can be like God knowing good and evil. That was the snake. So who's talking to these people? The snake. Uh, you don't know how powerful you are. You can be something that you don't even realize. And I realize that's, that's, I'm going to talk at the camera here. I realize that's an extreme of what he's saying here, but it's the same thing. It's the same truth. You don't know how powerful you are. It's just packaged in a more acceptable way to accept it. It's, you don't know how powerful you are. You can, you can manipulate if you want to. You can be, uh, you can think things into existence. I mean, that's where this is going.
29:00 A form of spiritualism that we have never seen before is coming upon this earth and it's going to be quite literal. Um, of course we don't have anything to fear because we are loved and cherished by God. And if we are a hundred percent abiding in him every day, don't even worry about it. But that's, that's something that's happening right now. Let's hear what else they say about this, this concept. And in, in a lot of mystery rituals, like, uh, you know, the El Eusinian mystery rituals and others, uh, you experience sort of noesis or it's often accompanied by kind of a near death experience or something, but you experience knowledge of your primordial soul and you, you get this sort of loving state and then you, you come back down and there is this sort of Allah, Jesus translation function issue where, you know, he was known to speak in riddles and, and, you know, mysteries. There's a great book actually called Flatland by Sir Edwin Abbott. Yeah, that's super classic. In the late 19th century, where it's like, if you were a 3d person speaking to people in Flatland on a 2d plane or, you know, Plato's cave, like you see the light, you come down, you can't really tell people, and then you get persecuted.
30:08 Well, yeah, he said he had this knowledge. He understood it when he was in that plane, but when he came back and was trying to verbalize it and write it down, he could not find the human human words to translate it. It's like almost like our, um, our synonyms. It's like, um, our symbol rate is too slow to communicate the, you know, the information effectively. So I think that's fascinating because, I mean, that's, that's kind of biblical. I mean, there has been, uh, people that have, uh, in the Bible that have seen these, seen heavenly things and said, I just don't know how to describe some of this stuff. Um, and so what, I mean, can, can Satan showed you things that you, you can't understand in your mind? Absolutely. I know people that have been on drugs that have seen things that they've never seen before. I mean, can, can Satan show you things that you, you can't understand in your mind? Absolutely. I know people that have been on drugs that have seen things that they've never seen before. I mean, can Satan showed you things that you, you can't understand in your mind? Absolutely. I know people that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs that have been on drugs Like that thing, it was orange and zigzaggy at the same time.
31:08 Do you know what I'm talking about? Absolutely not. You have no idea how to relate this stuff. So thank you, CE4 Research. This guy, thank you for being in the chat, Joe. I was just going to talk about Joe. Joe has interviewed many people talking about this concept and has found out that this thing is a manipulator. It tries to present itself as dead. I mean, your dead loved ones. If your dead loved ones come back to you and say, hey, yeah, this is something you need to go forward and do something about, obey, or you need to do X, Y, and Z, even though it might be against the Bible. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. That's not your dead relatives. If it can appear as a snake, it can appear as anything you want. It can appear as a glowing orb of some kind. It can appear as a ship. It can appear as a tic-tac, a giant 40-foot tic-tac in the sky, or maybe a giant propane tank.
32:10 I mean, they call these things all kinds of stuff. Those big glowing orbs, they used to call them foo fighters. And we're going to get into that concept here in a second where he actually talks about that. But let's dig in a little further. Thank you for the super chat, Joe. I really do appreciate it. And see what else is being said here. Okay. I don't know their belief system. That's what we just talked about. Oh, okay. What you see is what they use. What happens when we die? I mean, it just goes further and further into this rabbit hole. By the way, if you're interested, I want to see comments on this, whether it be live chat or in the regular chat down below. I'm putting together an expose of very interesting religions that have come, not just your general Don denomination, but I want to know what Baptists believe.
33:06 I want to know what Adventists believe. I want to know what Jehovah's Witnesses believe. I want to know what Catholics believe. I want to know what Mormons believe about this whole thing. Because in some of the bigger religions that we come in contact with, I want to know exactly what they think about this whole thing. If you think I should do an individual video on each one to kind of hash that out, talking to people specifically, not just myself and my opinion, but actually bringing in someone that is of that religion or has been a part of that religion, leave a comment below and let me know if that would be something that would be interesting to you. I think it would be for me. Sometimes I just interview people that I think would be interesting for me to talk to, and hopefully it resonates with you as well. But anyway, let's get back into the program here. Books like American Cosmic by Dana Pasalka and Passport to Magonia by Jacques Vallée do talk about how the noble mythology, whether it's the mythology of the time, whether it's the religion or media, do play somewhat of a role in sort of shading how you recollect an experience.
34:11 So the classic example is Betty and Barney Hill in 1961. Outer Limits was a CBS show that had played 11 days before that abduction experience, and it showed aliens with eyes that wrapped around the rims of their head, and that's exactly what they sort of described. Yeah, and it's almost like we discussed before, where you had like... you know, witches sitting on the chests of people feeling paralyzed in medieval times. It's like, you know, our overlay is this classic alien kind of motif. Okay, pause it right there for a second, because this is exactly what we were talking about just a minute ago. Your brain is relational. And so, you know, back in the Bible when... I haven't talked about this before. There was a king. I'm not going to say his name because I'm going to get it wrong. But he had dreams, and his dreams were about cows and about corn, and why?
35:05 Well, because kings back then didn't just sit on the throne. Their whole livelihood revolved around making sure that people had food. They were able to do business with food, trade food, and all this other stuff. So his livelihood, what he thought about every day was food. And so God used that to give him visions and understanding of what's going on. It's almost like something is in there externally. I'm talking about angels. I'm talking about the spiritual realm. Okay. And they're saying, okay, I need to tell this guy something. I'm going to poke those areas and activate them just with microscopic... This is guessing here. I have nothing biblical to push this on. But millivolts activating your neurons to make you think certain things and put them in a right order to make a story about it to make you think a certain way. If good angels can do it, bad angels can do it.
35:58 And so what he's talking about right here is they're using relational ideas, to set something up in your head because it's not physical. Satan can do physical things, quite possibly. We've seen that. But most of the time, it's not physical. And I think Joe Jordan challenges people. He says, if there is absolutely someone that brings back a knob from a control panel on the UFO, well, that's a whole other story. We're going to have to really look into that. But right now, at least, most of these experiences, the lore that comes back, is absolutely not physical. It's dreams and visions, basically. People are put into trances, or we don't know what happens to them, and all of a sudden, they've had these loss-of-time periods. This is real, folks. This is really happening, but it's not what people think it is.
36:51 And so what they're explaining right now and what they're going to continue talking about is how something is activating memories and your relational memory system. They're talking about the same thing. They're talking about the same things. But you look at what they said before, it's the same phenomenon, basically. People, their analytical overlay is different, so they describe it in a different way. Right. Leprechauns, fairies, elves, angels, demons. We just superimpose our own reality onto the thing rather than actually perceiving it. It's almost like you have a meme library in your head, and then you have this higher platonic thing that's happening, and you attach the closest meme that you can to it. Yeah, exactly. People have been seeing the same stuff. So the Tic Tac of today was the flying butane tank of the 1950s, and you can find declassified Air Force OSI reports that are publicly searchable right now that talk about these flying white butane tanks, and the Foo Fighter phenomenon in World War II.
37:50 And then if you were to go way back, you see stuff that's basically described the same in antiquity as well. So whether it be extraterrestrial, I don't know, some other kind of teleport, of origin you know crypto terrestrial you know some of the other stuff people postulate we deserve to understand you know uh truths of the universe and if we have uh the answer one of life's questions right you know what happens when we die and are we alone if we can answer one of those but it's kept in secret because they believe the public can't handle it or it hinders this like you know cold war arms race that i talked about in my first public interview that seems pretty messed up to me right pause it right there so i i uh i think it's interesting that they want to know these specific things it's almost as if it's being seeded by by another realm activating these thoughts while they're talking about this stuff while it's being recorded i'm sure this is orchestrated heavily not by the physical realm but by by by the spiritual realm as this is i mean he anybody interested in this topic is going to go out and see this this documentary this two-hour documentary with david grutch in it because it's one of the only ones he's done that hasn't been um put on by a major media outlet like news nation or or what not on a youtube channel and so i i think seeding people's minds with the idea that we have to know maybe they'll tell us what happens after death i'm sure because they're going to bring back the dead that aren't really dead they're they're demons presenting themselves as the dead you watch this is going to happen i'm more and more convinced of this every single day um what's next let's see uh don't attack your zookeepers okay so this is your government your government believes these ufos they shouldn't be attacked because they are your zookeepers think about that for a second the world is thinking these things are the thought processes has infiltrated this as is just phenomenal watch this you got to remember like national security threat is the way to get congress alerted and engaged that is like the operative word um that congress responds to the narrative that this could be a threat because look to be honest with you i think this stuff's been going on for thousands of years and so it does frustrate me a little bit when it's like you know we we need to shoot these things down it's like i don't think they're really a you know an immediate existential threat it's my as my yeah the smartest idea to try to fire back when they're not firing at you they'll take you out real quick if they can fly faster than light and do all the stuff they're doing so yeah it's probably not a good idea right we probably shouldn't attack exactly yeah exactly don't attack the zookeepers i think that's probably a good idea oh boy okay don't attack the zookeepers while i do believe it's probably not a good thing to react to these things uh it's probably a better idea to ignore them because it looks like they're just trying to get everyone's attention by zigzagging back and forth and and following people around with their when they're in their fighter jets they're not doing a very good job of hiding and so if these things are so advanced you think they'd be able to hide better from us but they're not because it's the deception and i'm sure there's a lot more of these things that aren't being revealed right now. There's only a few that are causing this absolute question to the government, and that's happening right now. So what else?
41:36 What else we got here? Well, we got Jacques Vallée. This is actually the first time I've seen Jacques Vallée talk in this clip. All right, so two minutes. Here we go. But we're under-indexed on theory. And to my mind, we have one pretty strong theoretician in Jacques Vallée, who really, if you read like The Invisible College, which he wrote in 1975, that is the tip of the spear now in terms of theory on UFOs, which is wild to me. Jacques Vallée might be the most preeminent UFO researcher in the world. In fact, he was Steven Spielberg's inspiration for the eccentric French scientist, played by Francois Truffaut in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It absolutely goes in line with demonic ideas from the past. And it bears a very similar parallel between the two. But nobody talks about that. No one's going to say, oh, yeah, well, Jacques Vallée says that they're possibly demons. Why not? I mean, if we're going to tell the whole truth here, we should probably bring that part out, too. Let's continue.
43:09 Hypotheses that are even a little more testable. But what the average person might not know about Jacques is that he's a... Obsessed with time travel. In fact, on the set of Close Encounters, he got into an argument with Steven Spielberg. And we had a long discussion about what UFOs could be. And of course, for him, the main point of the movie was entertainment. And it was appropriate for UFOs to be extraterrestrial visitors. I've seen him talk there before. I mean, that's a very, very well known where he has been recorded. But he's a lot older. We're going to see a clip of him at the end. Jacques Vallée. But I just want to remind everyone, if you like this, if you think it's important, if it's valuable to you, hit up our Patreon, patreon.com slash strange normal. And also like the video, hit subscribe, because not everyone that watches is a subscriber, but you really should be. Because we go live, hit that bell button. So you're notified on your phone when we are live, because we're going to do this at least twice a week, maybe once a week. But if we have enough content, we're actually going to push this out. We're going to talk about... This spiritual deception that's coming upon the world. And it's very, very important that everyone finds out about this. So tell your friends, tell your enemies that this important message that needs to get out. Man, I've been telling even my construction workers, friends, and my contractors, they said, well, what do you do? I said, well, partly I run a YouTube channel.
44:39 And they said, well, what YouTube channel? Oh, Last Day Spiritualism is what I say. And so then I have to explain that it's a religious channel. And we talk a little bit about this, that, and the other thing. It's really easy to talk about after that. Because after you talk about that, they're like, well, where do you find that in the Bible? Revelation 16, 14. It's the three frogs. And then you pull out your phone, you start talking. I haven't even said... I mean, I haven't even mentioned that, hey, are you religious? Or hey, do you believe in God? This is a concept that opens the door to religion so fast. You don't even have to pretend that you're... Hey, I mean, dance around the question of whether or not you believe in God. Say, this is happening in the news. People are experiencing this right now. The government's on the news saying that this isn't swamp gas and weather balloons anymore, that something real has happened to the military. Something big is happening right now. In fact, there has been multiple hundreds of court cases about soldiers, military officials going up to these orbs on their military bases, ships, and having...
45:46 head trauma to the point of death about these things. This is happening now. This is documented evidence. And so if there's anything that we should be concerned about, it's whether or not we're saved, whether or not we have that relationship with Christ every day, because saying magic words isn't going to do it. It's that relationship with God that is absolutely going to have you in that loving relationship with Jesus Christ. So when you're talking to people about this stuff, remind them that there is a bigger cause. There's a bigger plan here. Hit that subscribe button. Hit that bell icon. Go to patreon.com slash strange normal. Become a partner with us. Join our private community. There's about 70 of us that are researching this together. It's really fascinating. Let's continue. Jacques wanted the UFOs and the aliens in the movie to be represented in a more nuanced way and actually linked with time travel, not just space travel. I think that the extraterrestrial hypothesis is actually more far-fetched. I think the idea that another... Other species would evolutionarily converge to be bipedal, to have kind of the symmetric, you know, bilateral symmetry.
46:55 Yeah, because if we look at like the aerial school event, you know, if we believe the school children that saw bipedal, you know, hominid looking kind of NHI, then that seems pretty rare to have the same development where they're going to... It's either extraterrestrial and we're seeing bioengineered being... We're seeing things that look similar to us for ease of communication and acceptance maybe. Sure. And that is like almost like an avatar for the intelligence behind, you know, the... Right. The ghost behind the machine or whatever, that they were engineered specifically to look like that. It wasn't natural. This is what happens, folks. What happens when you start with a foundation of atheism, with evolution, you end up in this idea that these things evolve. evolved into a bipedal species that just happen to look like us. So they have to be somewhat similar to us. Maybe they're our creators because they, why are we so much better looking than these ugly things? I mean, maybe they think they're cute. I don't know. Maybe they think we're ugly. I mean, if that was really the truth, right? But I just find it fascinating that they go from, well, you know, this thing, you know, it takes things from inside your brain and it just conjures up these ideas from what you've seen on TV to, oh, well, it has to evolve from us. Well, maybe it's using this idea of bipedal, which just means you have two arms, two legs. You're basically, if you split you in half, you'd be a parallel of the other side of you. You're bipedal. You have two legs, two arms. And now why is it so similar?
48:39 Probably because this is what you think it should look like. This is what Hollywood has come up with. This is what Hollywood has come up with. This is what Hollywood has come up with. These are the things you have seen. So it's presenting itself as this, because that's what you're going to think an alien is. Not necessarily that these things are, oh, it's another alien from a long ways away. By the way, there is stuff on the news right now talking about a physical alien corpse that the government of Mexico has come out with. I'm sure you guys are aware of this, right? I have yet to present this and talk about it because I think it's a little kooky and I'm and it's going to be debunked or it's an absolute amazing deception that's already happening. We're just not going to talk about that yet because I'm still putting this stuff together. Hopefully, maybe this Sunday when we go live, we'll talk more about the stranger, even stranger things that are happening. But there's just not enough information about it yet to really do a show about it. Lots are happening right now and you guys got to keep following this because it's going to get even weirder.
49:43 And the weirdest part, it's in mainstream media. Who would have thought that in our lifetime we'd be discussing UFOs and aliens, little green men that look like they've been freeze-dried. There's so many funny memes about this. If you join our Discord, we should probably have a separate channel just for the funny memes of this dead alien. But I'm a dead alien. I should use my finger quotes. Where are your red flags tonight? This is crazy, guys. This is so funny. This is it. So this is a two-hour video. They talked about religion a little bit and a few new things came out like Grutch talking about what actually is the secrecy behind this whole UFO concept and where this all come from. One big thing that came out about it was that it's from the era of nuclear weapons. And so it was all, categorized with that, what's that word I'm looking for? Convinciality. When you're secretive about something, whatever it's called. And with that, it became a very, very secretive thing.
51:02 They didn't want to talk about it because it was related to nuclear weapons. There was apparently a lot of radiation that came off these things. Apparently, if you want to talk about it, you want to accept the idea that there is a physical deception happening right now. I'm not sure yet. We haven't seen that yet, but there is evidence from people saying on mainstream media that there is an actual physical craft. Kind of crazy, I know. But we'll talk about that more probably Sunday because there is so much else to talk about. Sunday night, don't miss the show as you guys are all here. And I appreciate everyone that's been here. We are hitting triple digits and we appreciate it. We appreciate that. Keep that mindset. Keep a prayer in your hearts. And we will look forward to seeing you Sunday night.