0:00 It should have been instant explosion. Boom! And you were in this plane? Yeah, I'm flying it and I had a co-pilot with me. Every time she looked in the mirror, she could see these terrible beings around her. She was just continually being harassed by these spirits. And so she said, Jesus, save me. Boom! Instantly, they all disappeared. And the Cardinal said, oh, that's fine. We talk to the dead people all the time. He said, you do? Every time we elect a pope, all the dead popes throughout history, they materialize. They join us, they sit next to us, and they help us to elect a new pope. He sacrificed his son in order to be able to take power. And so... Say that again? Wow! Really? Yeah, he's accused of that because his son disappeared, and they say that he sacrificed his son in order to be able to take power.
0:53 Well, that's very sad. But this is known through... Throughout history, the Incas used to sacrifice humans. The Mayas used to sacrifice humans. Scientists from NASA have confessed on their deathbed or mentioned that they have the help of extraterrestrial intelligences to help them in their research. Spiritualism is going to make direct entries into churches through miracles. I went to God 30 years ago, and I said, I'll work for you if you pay the bills. If I run out of money, no problem. I got five professions. I can fly for the airlines. I can go work as an engineer. I can teach at the university. I can do a lot of things. No problem. But as long as you pay the bills, I'll keep going for you. And I haven't left 30 years ago. I've been going like this, and it's just growing and growing and growing. If you're not making choices today, you're choosing the wrong side.
1:45 If you're sleeping indifferent and careless right now, you're going to choose to go with the world. It'll be too painful for you to try to switch sides because you never learned to trust God. Today's the time. We still have it. The door is still open. David, you have been around the world doing mission work, doing all kinds of stuff. You're a pilot. You're a nurse. You graduated with your IT degree. You have a lot of different experience, a lot of different fields. And so I wanted to ask you more questions about your experience in the mission field and being with the people and specifically understanding the last day spiritualism and how that's going to play out. Because we know a lot about the Vatican, and I want to talk a little bit about that. But we also have very little understanding other than it has something to do with the dead about last day spiritualism. So I want to dig into that, see what you know about that, and have any stories that you know about this in your life.
2:46 Well, there's a little bit of background. I was raised in South America by missionary parents. My father was a pastor, a pilot. Later he took nursing. My mother was a very experienced nurse, took care of thousands. Mainly as a physician because a nurse is the only medical officer they have, you know. And so I grew up in a Spanish environment in Bolivia, then later on in Peru working. And so I wanted to do the same thing as my parents. So I prepared as soon as I finished elementary school in the academy, I prepared to study aviation. And while I was still in the academy here at College Hill Academy, I was already studying and taking classes, working at the College Hill Lending Service to pay for my studies, and working very hard, several jobs. Here I was, you know, only 16, 17, and I was working like crazy.
3:43 But by the time I was 18, the Lord had blessed me, and I was able to buy a small airplane, and I studied in that. And as soon as I finished, I started theology classes, and I said, I'm going to be like my father. I'm going to, you know, be a pastor, a pilot. I didn't think. I didn't think of nursing at that time. But later, my childhood friend from South America that grew up in Bolivia as well, she was from Colorado, she came and she said, you know, I heard you're studying aviation. I'd like to study aviation with you. And she was studying medical technology. So she came. She was my best friend all since I was three years old. And we studied aviation together. And then along the way, we decided to take nursing together. So. So instead of me continuing the theological studies and she in medical technology, we interrupted our studies to study nursing together and aviation.
4:38 We both finished. I continued with my studies. She decided not to finish medical technology, just remain a nurse and a pilot. And we got married about almost before finishing, just a little before graduating from college. And we went right to the mission field. We discovered there that we needed some more training. Back to back to study again in aviation maintenance. If I was going to be a pilot, I realized I got to maintain my own airplane. So two years of that. And then and then by that time, the union president called me and said, we need engineers. You know, we have plenty of pastors now. So it's fine for you to be a pastor, but we don't need that anymore. We need engineers and nurses and doctors and pilots. So, ah, OK, OK, I'll take that, too. So I've been programming computers ever since I was a student.
5:29 I was a teenager, so and I was I had two employees working for me, programming, too. And I was doing inventory stuff even when I was in aviation maintenance. I had two employees working for me doing software programming for companies. The first first computers, personal computers. I came out with PCs, Commodore 64, Atari computers. You know, those were the early ones. And we saw that all that evolved. So so I took I.T. And and then as soon as we finished off to work, instead of working in I.T., hospital administration, after three years, I was hijacked. I was thrown in prison with the director of education. Military took the plane. They use it for their illegal work since they're the ones that do most of that. And we thought we were going to be there for 14 years. As it turned out, as it turned out, the Lord put me to do medical work in a prison.
6:22 And after about a couple of weeks, the prison director said, man, you guys have been such a blessing here. I know you're not guilty. And he said, I went to the prosecuting attorney and accused him of corruption and they've dropped the charges. You can go home. I didn't expect that. They told me 14 years and I didn't feel like taking care of patients. But I've learned to obey what God says. When God says do something, I say, yes, sir. And and so I I did that and went home. And then they told me the military is not happy that year that you're free now because now they have to return the airplane. And so they've issued a warrant for your arrest again. And the police. The police told us, get out of the country because we don't want to arrest you. And we know you're innocent. So the church administration accepted that. And we accepted a call to go back to Peru and work for the union for six years as director of computer services.
7:15 That was a very good experience. We worked there. I still I still wanted to get into the ministry like my father. But but I was a pilot nurse engineer. And I did that for for six years. Finished some graduate work. Got invited to teach for Caribbean Union College in the I.T. department and also graduate business classes for Andrews University. I did that for several years. I really miss working in the jungles. And and I told my wife, we're just finishing our contract with the church. Why don't we spend some time volunteering in the jungles of Guyana, South America, which is part of the Caribbean Union. And and so we went with our five children 200 miles deep in the jungles just by faith. Just to live and work there. And the deal we made with God was we don't have money, but you do. We have professions, a lot of experience and education. We'll give you what we have and you provide for our needs. And if we run out of money and we can't live here anymore, no problem.
8:17 I can go back to the U.S. and make a living there. But that was 30 years ago and we never came back. We just stayed there because God kept blessing one school, two schools, four schools, an airplane, two airplanes, five airplanes. One country, two countries. Today, 90 projects in 90 countries and 25 TV networks, nearly 40 airplane aircraft. And not everything goes smoothly. Sometimes sometimes things go a little hard, but but that's normal life. Jesus had hard times, too, you know. And so after finishing our contract with the church, we decided to to go into the jungles of Guyana and serve for one year with five children. And just by faith. And see if if God could provide like with like like George Mueller and Hudson Taylor. So we we went for one year. But during that time, God provided for us and we opened up a school, bought an airplane and God kept providing, opened up a second school, another airplane.
9:19 And eventually the work grew. So we went to Venezuela, worked there. They asked me to be adjunct director in Guyana. I said, as long as you let me be a volunteer. Then I was adjunct. Director in communications for the Union of Venezuela. And and so after years of working, we realized, you know, God does keep his promises. He provides. And so we that was 30 years ago and we've never stopped doing that. And now the projects are growing to 90 countries with projects and airplanes and television networks and schools and orphanages. We we know that that story we've told have been a blessing to a lot of people who are kind of scared of launching out by themselves. But that's given us a lot of a lot of opportunity to serve in different countries and see more than 100 countries to travel and preach and and to start projects in 90 of them. I was ordained into the ministry in the Venezuelan Union, which was a dream come true.
10:15 So I could I could do the same work that my father was doing. They said, you should have been ordained a long time ago. We see God has called you to the ministry. That was very sweet. And the division president came down and officiated in my ordination. So I've I've had a wonderful, grateful relationship for the Inter-American Division, which is basically south of the U.S. down to the north part of South America and all the Caribbean islands and so on. Central America. So it's been a wonderful, a wonderful division to work in. Currently, we're living in Bolivia. But that experience that that led us into so many countries gave us a wide view of different cultures and experiences. I know. I know that you have some questions, but all this all these experiences in different countries help us to see a lot of things, you know, and experiencing experiencing different different challenges like being hijacked, beaten, imprisoned, assaulted by gangs.
11:18 All those kind of mature you rapidly spiritually and because you really realize, you know, I had one terrible aviation accident. Some years ago, you know, my forty six years of flying. I know my forty six years of flying, there's been some fender benders, but this one was this one should have been instant incineration. You know, the Bolivian government has been a leftist government until until this week. They've elected that the new president is taking over. He's the first first president on the right for 20 years during the last government's, you know, is really tough. We wouldn't Venezuela when it's going through the same thing. Bolivia went through it. And so we've been living through these difficult times and and we've learned that that we've lost airplanes that the government of Venezuela hijacked our pilot and killed him and the two wives, his wife and the school director have been held in the jungles with the guerrilla guerrilla camps for for nearly 15 years now in Bolivia.
12:23 The government stole two of our airplanes and sold them to the mafia. And then repented and decided they made a mistake and violated a lot of laws. And they went and destroyed the airplanes. So the buyers of the airplanes also lost in the government lost and we lost. And so it's been difficult. But but in this in this missionary work, you know, in a war, there's losses. There's losses. There is there is difficult experiences. And we go through all these things. And because of that, we can say that God has been faithful and he's been providing and saving our lives. But the problem. The pressure, the pressure on me was tremendous to get one of the airplanes out of the country. And they they threatened to confiscate the airplane if I didn't get it out on Saturday or Sunday. And I said, well, I'm not going to fly it on Saturday, but I can fly on Sunday and take it out of the country.
13:11 They said, OK, that'll be your last day. So I said, can I stop by and get fuel? No. Well, how am I supposed to fly out of the country without fuel? Well, you can take fuel from the airport and fill up the wings, I said. But but the problem is, I said, that's a short runway. And I've never flown out with full tanks before. But they didn't give me any alternative. So I did my best. And it rained all night and the runway was soft. And it's a short runway in a big airplane. Oh, this isn't concrete. This is this. No, this is grass. Yeah. Yeah. And the raining is still a real heavy airplane. I've never taken off that heavy and we didn't make it off. We just barely, barely got off the ground into the trees. And it's just like I have it all on video. And it was just like gasoline everywhere. Gas vapor, lakes of gasoline everywhere.
13:58 It should have been boom. It should have been instant explosion. And you're in this plane. Yeah. Yeah, you're flying. I'm flying it. And I had a copilot with me. And and we didn't get out of it. That doesn't make sense. How in the world did you get out of them? Well, we just that the two wings came off. We hit two trees and the two wings came off. And the guy was gracious that we didn't hit a hit a tree head on. But the two wings and then gasoline went everywhere. And. And and I just slipped off all the master switches and all the radios and stepped out of the airplane. One drop of blood from a little scratch on a on a visor. He didn't get anything. We should have been instantly incinerated. Then I found out later they were waiting for me at the International Airport with drugs to put on the airplane and confiscate the airplane anyway. So it would have been a no win, you know, no win solution.
14:48 We've lost the airplane. Insurance would not have paid. It would have been a disaster. So God, in his mercy, saved us, showed that he intervened. Civil aviation had never seen so much gasoline everywhere with no fire, you know. And so and they could hardly believe it. But they had to come and make the report. And they still haven't figured out how. And I finally a colonel interviewed me and told me a colonel interviewed me and asked me, there's no engine failure. There's no no failure of anything on the airplane. So why did the accident happen? I said, well, I was under so much pressure to get the airplane in threats. I would have preferred to call him and say, you know what? It's been raining. It's not appropriate right now. There's no wind. I can't really get off the ground. Would you allow me to wait until the ground is dry?
15:38 Give me a few more days. Right? No, they were not willing to. It was if you do not leave today, we seize the airplane. And they were going to seize it anyway, I found out, regardless. So. So I told them, you know, that that kind of pressure should never be placed on a pilot where you threaten them that if they don't take off, then they're going to seize the airplane. Why? If it's not safe, allow the pilot to make a safety decision. But they really didn't care. So he apologized in the name of the country. He said, in the name of Bolivia, I apologize to you for the pressure you were under. No pilot should ever be under that kind of pressure. And I said, now that it happened to me, I won't let it happen to me again. But on the other hand, it's not fair to me. That put me under that pressure and make me fly an airplane when the conditions are not appropriate. So God has intervened time and time and time again and provided for our needs and help.
16:30 Just this morning, I got a message. You know, there's an FM radio station for sale in the city where we live. There's two million people there. We have TV already, but I've been praying for an FM station. I don't have the money to pay for it. So I initially I told them I don't have that kind of money to pay for it. And then the Lord. The Lord convicted me like, when have you had money to pay for anything? Just go forward and and. I will take care of it. So I sent him a message this morning on WhatsApp and I told him, you know, I'm sorry. I said, no, I can't do it. But I do want to do it. I don't know how it's going to happen. But if you'll give me one year to pay for it, you know, and I will I will find a way to do it. But yes, I'm interested in the station. Because every time I do it.
17:18 Because every time you have a new broadcast work, more people are reached with the truth and more people are saved. So how much is God willing to pay for a soul? Infinite amount. So if this will save souls and it will, because any time you preach truth. The union president some years ago told me in Bolivia eight out of ten baptisms in the church come through our TV network. But they also admit that their TV network, which would be Hope Channel appear over there. They call it New Times. Their channel doesn't bring anybody into the church. I can't say nobody, but that's what they said. They said it's not worth it. So they're selling their TV stations in many places because they said it's not worth the investment. They're only doing radio. But in reality, people are looking for truth. And what we're going to talk about is one of the very important truths of spiritualism, what's happening in the world today.
18:10 But if you give people the information they're looking for, it will lead them in the right direction to get ready for Jesus. Coming, they'll understand better. So we just started broadcasting, for example, several months ago all across Brazil. Brazil is the biggest country in South America. And to think that we're reaching 200 million people in Brazil. And I said that even if I die tomorrow, I will be happy that and I can hardly believe that we're reaching 200 million more people because we have in Europe. We have in Asia. We have in Africa. We have in South America. But Brazil was always like a little bit hard to reach because it's so big. A friend is bringing us access on the TV station on all his network because they're digital and they have extra space. So they're just letting us do it for free because we're nonprofit and he likes what we do.
18:57 So I see that God is opening doors. So I just sent a message today. I want to buy the FM station. I don't know. They want 200,000. I don't have an extra 200,000 right now, you know. And so I told them, I'll give you 150. They haven't accepted yet. But I did. The Lord convicted me. Don't turn it down. You know, go forward because it'll work out. And I've done it before and done it before. But it's always painful. It's always hard to do things that are way outside of your reach. You know, it's not fun to keep stretching until it's uncomfortable. But if you're going to save souls, like God said, I'm giving you the opportunity. You know, what do you expect it to be? Free? No, Lord. Well, move forward. So this morning before I got here, I left a message. I want to move forward. You know, let's find the right price. Let's go forward. Whatever they agree on, I'm going to go with it.
19:47 So that's what's happening. And that's where I came from. That's what's happening today. And now the subject that you have some very important questions relating to final events. And I'm enthusiastic about some of those questions. Shoot away. Yeah. So here in the U.S., we don't see a lot of the dead appearing as much or even spirits as much as I've seen other countries deal with. And I know you've been in other countries before, and I'm wondering how that's different. Number one. And number two, we see a lot of something called UAP is what they're saying in the news stands for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon or Aerial Phenomenon. And they're seeing this stuff in the sky, fireballs in the sky, not UFOs like you would see in a Hollywood production.
20:36 But they're seeing something strange that they can't really understand. And of these things, I'm wondering. What has what other spiritualism could appear in the U.S. or what are some of the characteristics of that spiritualism that you've seen while you've been on mission work? Well, South America tends to be more Catholic and more subject to superstition. Not so agnostic and not so scientifically oriented like the United States. There's a lot of people don't believe in God, but they certainly believe in science and they believe in unexplainable things. And they believe in many unexplained phenomena, but they're not willing to admit that God's part of it or there's some spiritual implication. But the devil fits the culture to whatever he's trying to do.
21:30 In our country, we see more of those strange anomalous objects because that's what people are willing to look at. In South America. In Africa and others. It tends to be more direct spiritualism like my dead grandfather will come and talk to me or a dead relative or I have a dream that comes to me and these beings are speaking to me. Just yesterday, I was in Kentucky. I flew up there. We're building a wellness center up in Kentucky. And the lady and her husband that donated that property, they started explaining some of the background. She was from Latin America and she was explaining that her mother was involved in the occult and she's always had these demons appearing around her. She'd go through a mirror and every time she looked in a mirror, she could see these terrible beings around her with horrible faces looking at her. They'd pick her up and throw her across the room. They hurt her spine. She would go and try to sleep under the bed of her parents to get away from it when she would wake up.
22:39 She couldn't get away from it when she was a little girl, but her mother was involved in it. So it made it very difficult. And finally, one time when she was a little older, she was just continually being harassed by these spirits. And so she said, Jesus, save me. Boom. Instantly, they all disappeared. Wow. And Jesus came to her and said, don't worry anymore. His voice was like many waters, she said. Just like giant waters. Very deep. But Jesus said, don't worry. From now on, you'll never have to deal with it again. You called on my help. I'm here. I have freed you. And she never again. The mirror, she only sees herself in a mirror now. No other things. They don't show up anymore. Jesus has already circled her. So the name of Jesus is very important.
23:28 And some time ago, a few months ago, actually last year, I had a very influential lawyer come and see me down in Bolivia. He used to be the ex-ambassador to the United Nations. Or should I say, he is an ex-ambassador to the United Nations for Bolivia. And recently, on the Day of the Dead, which would have been last November, he went to put flowers on the grave of his grandfather. And he said there was some woman that had steely eyes, looked like she was a witch, possessed or something, came up to him. And his grandfather spoke to him. And his name is Fernando. And he... And the grandfather said, Nandito, which is short for Fernando. Nandito, you know, I died, but I'm always, my spirit is always at your side.
24:18 I'm always by you, with you. You can call on me. I'm always standing beside you. I'm here to help you, to help you with all your difficulties or needs that you have. Just let me know. I'll be happy to work with you. Well, he got scared. She eventually walked off. And then he went. He said, I need to know something. He said, I need to know who this is I'm talking to. Was it really my grandfather? So he went to talk to the cardinal. Now, because of his status as an ex-ambassador, he had easy access to the cardinal. Most people don't go get to talk to a cardinal anytime they want. But he did. And so he went to the cardinal and said, this happened to me. Is that okay or is it not okay? And the cardinal said, oh, it's fine. We talk to the dead people all the time. He said, you do? Every time we elect a pope, all the dead popes throughout history, they materialize.
25:09 They join us. They sit next to us. And they help us to elect a new pope. And he said, so we're used to talking to the dead people. So don't worry about it. And so I said, well, there is a religious leader for you that doesn't know his Bible. He's a Catholic cardinal, but he doesn't know what the Catholic Bible says or doesn't care. I said, the Bible teaches that the dead know not anything. And on the pain of death, we are not to communicate with the dead because they're not really dead people. They really are demons that take the shape and the voice and the appearance of the dead person. I said, that wasn't your grandfather speaking to you. That was a demon. And on the pain of death, we are not to speak to dead people. I said, they say that they're dead. They say that they know. But how could he speak to me with the same voice? And even refer to events that only my grandfather and I knew.
26:04 I said, because they're always around us. They can hear everything. They record everything. They can reproduce a voice. They can reproduce every event. I said, that's just the way that it is, you know. And the Bible knows that. And so these are deceiving spirits that are there to make us lose our salvation. And it's sad if the cardinal is going to be speaking to the dead. He's not going to be saved. If you want to go the way the cardinal is going to go. Do you want to go the way the cardinal and follow him? Or do you want to follow God? You've got to make a decision. Because those that live in disobedience to God are not going to be saved. Even though some people might say, well, he's a cardinal in a church. He has to be saved. No. Only those that are loyal and obedient to God and love God. If you love me, Jesus said, keep my commandments. So those that love God will be obedient to God. And if you don't love God and you're disobedient, you're certainly not going to be in heaven.
26:57 So he got scared and he left. But he said, well, I've been educated. And I said, read your Catholic Bible. You know, you'll find God's commandments in Exodus 20. You'll find his instructions in Leviticus. You'll find a lot of things in the Bible, in the Catholic Bible that will teach you the right way. But don't follow people. Follow God, you know, in his word. So anyway, we prayed together and he left. But that reminds me that in third world countries, Satan doesn't do so many abstract things. He tends to have more direct interaction with people. If you're superstitious, if you're ignorant of God's word. Here in this country, we're getting more superstitious, but mainly we basically are a secular nation. And we believe in science and we believe in this and that.
27:50 But we don't want to really acknowledge God, even though there's a lot of religious people that say that. But the attitudes generally are the same. The attitudes generally are secular. And so when we see these events, we try to say those are probably extraterrestrials, other beings coming in to help us. What did you say? NHI? NHI is what they call it, non-human intelligences. Basically, they are non-human intelligences, but they really refer to them kind of like almost another race, you know, that doesn't live on our planet. But what it really is, is evil spirits that take the shape. And NASA has, several scientists from NASA have confessed on their deathbed or mentioned that they have the help of extraterrestrial intelligences to help them in their research.
28:40 One friend of mine from Mexico, his son is a scientist at NASA, and he says that they have these beings come and talk to them and teach them how to do, how to travel throughout space and the universe. And he mentioned all these different scientific researches and different dimensions where they go to. And, well, those are things that God has forbidden us to have anything to do with. And satanic beings come and impersonate extraterrestrials and impersonate loved ones and impersonate. A friend of mine that grew up in Angola, he was by the name of Gabriel Esteban. Oh, yeah. He's a very good friend of mine. I want to bring him to Bolivia one time and do an event there, but I tried already once to bring him to Brazil, but he got denied the visa.
29:34 So we're going to use some higher influences to get him a visa to bring him over from Africa. But he was raised by demons from childhood. They played with him. They changed his diapers. The evil angels converted into children in order just to play with him, you know. And they taught him how every wicked thing there is. They taught him how to print counterfeit money, how to steal, how to assassinate, how to sacrifice children. One angel would become a victim and the other angel would come and slice his neck and blood would go everywhere. Then they would dematerialize again and laugh and have fun and show him how to kill somebody, you know. And they would simulate it. And they taught him. One day they had nine child sacrifices. They actually killed them all and opened up their chest and took out their hearts.
30:28 And they had to eat part of the heart, you know. And so it's really evil things. And in child trafficking you have a lot of these repetitions of these evil practices because it's demonic, you know. And Jesus said if you hurt one of these little ones, you know, he said it's better that a millstone be hung around your neck and you be cast into the midst of the sea. So some of these people that are involved in child sacrifice and others, they're doing abominations before the Lord, you know. And anyway, that's what he was taught. And then one day a Seventh-day Adventist young man saw him in a store and told him, Jesus died for you on the cross. And he said he has a much better plan for you than what you have right now. Well, Gabriel knew that the satanic demons cannot read your mind. So he in his mind said, well, if the man...
31:27 He had been taught that the man on the cross was his worst enemy. But he said, if Jesus died for me and he's my creator, then if he's God, he can read my mind. The angels, the evil angels can't, but God can't. So he said, if you are God and you do love me, I'd like to meet you. And one day, one evening, he said, a light came into his room and there stood Jesus. Every demon disappeared. For the first time in his life, he was alone. He'd never, ever experienced being alone. He was surrounded by demons constantly. But he said he talked for four hours with Jesus, mind to mind. And at the end, he knelt down and gave his heart to the Lord. And he's been a missionary ever since. But he mentioned that there's several types of angels.
32:20 There's friendly angels. Not that they're friendly, but they do friendly deceptions like impersonating the dead. And they're allowed to do things like that. There's another type of angels which cause conflict between spouses, between nations, between families. And they're always trying to start wars at home and abroad. And they also function. But the third type of angels, God has never allowed to function. And that is, they're the destructive angels. Once they come out, they just destroy everything. And so he said, if you've ever seen a movie where these beings come out and they're throwing cars around and destroying this and knocking buildings down and just completely eradicating hundreds of people, he said, that's them.
33:06 Well, someday they will be allowed to do that. And there'll be destruction everywhere. But God has not allowed them to exercise that power yet. So there's a lot of things that I learned from Gabriel about how, about how the spirit world works. But they all have specialties. And they're all under the direction of Satan, which used to be Lucifer, the chief angel. And he holds them under control. And Gabriel said one day when he was young, Lucifer showed up like a shining, beautiful angel being, had six wings, and held him in his arms and told him, I am your father. They told him, this is your real father. He's your creator. It's not a lie, of course, because Satan doesn't create human life. And, but that's what he took credit for. And he was told that he's your father and you're here to serve him. So anyway, Satan said a few nice words and disappeared and left again.
34:01 But, but he was prepared for it, but he always serves God. It's a wonderful thing. And you know that to be able to be freed from those influences after you've been prepped to work for the evil one. And now you can work for God. What a wonderful privilege to be set free. It's a privilege to be set free from that. But here in the United States, this has a lot more impact when you have these scientific, strange objects appearing, disappearing, all other things happening. But in other countries, it's direct contact, generally speaking. Yeah, yeah. Have you in other countries ever experienced anything anomalous or strange or obviously things that are hidden, but have you seen anything with your eyes that are just like, I cannot understand why that happened or anything like this?
34:49 No, what I've seen is God's intervention in my life so many times from death. I've been protected from, I mean, I've been exposed to possessed persons and I've been involved several times into God's power casting out demons. Really? And once in Venezuela and India as well, there's a lot of possessed people in India. It's interesting that, interesting that in India, you know, they believe in 300 million gods and every one of them is a different spirit and they have to serve all these gods or they pick one god they're going to serve. But basically, all of those are fallen demons. And I've been involved in casting out of demons, but God has protected me all my life. And when I've been faced with this, hijacked, assaulted by gangs, bank robber with a gun, being held hostage, being beaten with clubs, you know, been in prison.
35:50 All these things I've gone through, I can look back and say that I've always felt God's protection, you know, by my side. A terrible aviation accident that should have instantly incinerated myself and the co-pilot. This was in another country? This was in Bolivia. Okay. In Bolivia. And now we have a new president and the previous government used to sacrifice animals and bathe in human blood. And so they were more pagan than anything. Are you kidding me? Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, they always used to sacrifice animals at their events. And it's like, this is sun worship, paganism. And when they dress, when they bathe in human blood before taking office, you go, human blood from whom? Who did they kill? You know? And so anyway, They admit this?
36:36 Because I know the guy, the Polish president just recently said he's seeing his dead military officers daily. And so I know there's a lot of spiritualism happening, but they admit that they're bathing in blood? Yeah. And the previous president to that that started it 20 years ago, the leftist party, most of the country believes that he sacrificed his son in order to be able to take power. And so... Say that again? Wow. Really? Yeah, the country... He's accused of that because his son disappeared and they say that he sacrificed his son in order to be able to... in order to be able to take power. Well, that's very sad, but this is known throughout history. The Incas used to sacrifice humans. The Mayas used to sacrifice humans. Ancient Babylon and pagan... the Philistines and others and ancient pagan religions used to sacrifice human beings often. This is a satanic ritual that happens today.
37:32 Just a few days ago was Halloween. How many people were killed during Halloween? It's horrible. We slept all night, but while people were being told, tortured and killed, you know, we could never sleep. So... Is Halloween around the world? Is this a common thing around the world or is this a U.S. thing? No, it's all over the world. And what's sad is people put stuff out. They think Halloween is just a fun day. It's not a fun day. It's a satanic day, you know? And which brings us to other pagan holidays. Most of the Catholic holidays are based on paganism. And yet, most of the Christian churches celebrate the Catholic holidays and none of them are Christian. Is that like the Day of the Dead? Is that a Catholic? The Day of the Dead is a Catholic one. The Easter is Catholic.
38:19 It's pagan. Ishtar, yeah. Ishtar. And then we have Christmas, which supposedly is the birth of Jesus. No, it was the birth of another God. And it comes back from the times of the Tower of Babel. Oh, solstice and stuff. Yeah. And so we Christian churches tend to go on. I need to say that to me, to celebrate for any Christian anywhere in the world, to have anything to do with Halloween is total abomination. But we got used to it. And then you have to ask yourself, if God's going to prepare a people before Jesus comes that are going to reflect His character, are they going to be celebrating pagan holidays? No. You know, we're not even talking about celebrating biblical holidays.
39:08 We're talking about not celebrating pagan holidays. Yeah. You know, some people have an issue with celebrating biblical holidays too. I'm just saying, let's get away from the paganism. And if we are going to do anything, let's make it based on the Bible. If you make something based on the Bible, you have a biblical foundation. That's one of the pillars of Protestantism is sola scriptura. Every doctrine has to be based on a solid biblical background. And most Christian churches celebrate Easter. Right here, we have big Easter celebration. That's pagan. Yeah. It has nothing to do with the resurrection. I did a Catholic priest that went and preached in an Adventist church one time. It was very interesting because he was doing it on a holiday. And he was very proud of this. And so it was sad to see what's happening in that respect. Christian churches in general, whether it be Adventist or Baptist or other evangelical churches, they need to cut out all celebration of pagan feasts if they want to see Jesus when He comes.
40:05 You know, I haven't even talked about God's calendar. I'm talking about not following the pagan calendar. Because God has... I was in the Philippines and I was talking about... I was in the Philippines and I asked them, do you have Hindus here? They said, yes. I said, give me some Hindu holidays. Well, they said, the Festival of Lights, Diwali. Perfect. We were used to that in the Caribbean. A lot of Hindus. Okay, good. Do you have Muslims? Oh, we have a lot of Muslims. What's a Muslim holiday? And they say, Ramadan. The month of Ramadan. Oh, perfect. Perfect. And so I asked them, do you have Christians here? Of course, we're all Christian. What holidays do you have? We have Christmas and Easter. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I said Christian holidays.
40:50 I did not say pagan holidays. And they stunned. They were stunned. Like, but those are the ones we always celebrate. Exactly. We got used to celebrating pagan holidays. The very first thing we have to do is get rid of paganism in a church. Before we can tell somebody, come out of here, my people from Babylon, let's get Babylon out of my people. All of us had Babylon in us. I'm not pointing fingers. I'm pointing fingers at me. We need to get Babylon out of us. So, so if we want to have nothing to do with spiritualism, nothing to do with Satanism, nothing to do with paganism, the first thing we need to do is to start severing all those contacts with pagan holidays and pagan practices. Halloween and Easter. That's it. I mean, I see a lot of sad Halloween things in people's front yards. Skeletons and everything. They're probably ignorant. They probably don't know what they're doing. And I, I myself as a child thought Halloween was just a fun trick or treat day.
41:50 Right? But as I got educated and realized this is not a game. This is not a fun trick or treat day. People are being sacrificed, killed, tortured, and crucified and slaughtered on that night and after that, animals. You know, cruelly. It's a satanic day. And no Christian should have anything to do with Halloween or with Easter. Do you think that there will be a time coming that this will become more and more prevalent? Like not just the Halloween stuff and the trickery, but more of the spiritualism where they will entice people to do more evil things like they see on Halloween. It's becoming more polarized. Whereas before people operated in ignorance, it's becoming more and more. If you do that, you're inviting Satan into your home and he's going to take advantage of it. As we come to the end of time, we're going to see more of this. We're going to see overt satanic possession.
42:47 We're going to see harassment by demons. We're going to see Satan to the movies. How many movies involve spiritualism? How many movies have dead people in them? Influences. It's becoming very polarized. And so we have satanic influences becoming very aggressive toward the end of time. And at the very end of time, right in the last few years of earth's history, during the loud cry, just before Jesus comes, it's going to become very, very... Satan is going to go to all the presidents and kings of the earth and pull them together into a final battle against God. Well, he's not going to do that subtly. He's going to do it aggressively. But anybody who messes around with satanic influences, with satanic music, satanic videos and images and sin in general, is playing a very dangerous game because people are making final decisions who you're going to serve.
43:44 Why do you think that... Because I've seen that. It's Revelation 16, 14, where he talks about how there will be a final battle against the coming of God Almighty. Why in the world does Satan try to rally the people to fight against God if there's no way a mortal can fight against God? Surely Satan knows this. What do you think that is? They wouldn't even know they're fighting God. They think that they're uniting with God. That's the lie that Satan is doing. See, he's making it look like they're serving God and those other people that don't comply, they're the ones not serving God. But how can you know that? You have to go to God's Word. That's what I was telling the ambassador. I told the ambassador, you can only go to God's Word to know what to do. If you just take human authority, you're going to be following you're going to be fighting God. But if you go to God's Word and God's Word tells you what to do, then you're on God's side.
44:36 So most people will not even know they're fighting God. What they're doing is taking human authority over and above God's Word. So that has to be clearly communicated through media, through television, all kinds of media channels. Let people know what God's Word says and encourage them. Encourage them to be obedient to what God teaches them. Now, if we love God, we will want to obey Him. If we don't love God and you just want to do things to obey human authority just because, like take the recent pandemic. How many people lined up and followed the government instructions? What do you think was the goal spiritually in the pandemic? Was it just to make destruction or was there a goal to move politics?
45:28 Well, I think it was an experiment to see how they could pull something like this off. I think they wanted bigger results than they got. There wasn't enough, not enough people died. They were hoping more would die. But now they've learned a lot. The next one that's coming, it'll do a better job. I did hear Bill Gates say some weird stuff about that. And I'm not a real big conspiracist, but I think it was very strange that he said, we didn't have enough people die or something like that, but next time. I believe that. I had a chance to meet Bill Gates twice. That was when he was still in Microsoft and I was an engineer. And so we only talked about computers. But now he's moved into a different world. Medical, yeah. He's moved into the medical world and buying up and modifying, buying farmland and modifying things and doing abominable things.
46:19 I wouldn't have any interest in meeting with him today. But the truth is, the truth is, there's two things. Now we're going to move into the spiritual side a little bit. There's two things that Satan would like to do in his last battle. If he could stop God's people from getting ready, that would be a great success because God needs the people that are ready. Our own theologians are fighting it. They're saying, there's no last generation preparation. We're going to sin until Jesus comes. Yeah, they're going to be sinning until they receive the last plagues and then they're going to realize they were wrong. But it's too late. And any Seventh-day Adventist that starts receiving the plagues will know what that means. But our own theologians are fighting it. Recently, our university, one of the universities in Brazil, made a clear statement that we're going to be sinning until Jesus comes.
47:14 They're preparing our theology students to teach that in their churches. And then what Satan is trying to do is stop God's preparation of a people. Jesus is in the most holy place getting a people ready, cleaning the heart sanctuaries and preparing them so that he can place a seal on them before the close of probation. If he doesn't have that people ready, Satan has a pending accusation that has never been resolved. God has to produce a people in order to shut Satan's mouth and be able to chain him for a thousand years. If he doesn't have a people and the 6,000 years runs out and God the Father says, I'm sorry, it's over. Revelation 12, 12 says, Satan has come down with great fear because he knows his time is short. Well, how does he know his time is short? Did God reveal it to him? No, he just knows what prophecy is and he knows how to count from Adam's sin when Satan tempted Adam until the 6,000 years.
48:15 He knows how to count. He was there and he knows his time is short. But God has the same short time. God doesn't have more time than Satan does. That's the allocated time. So strategy number one, keep God's people from being aware that we're this close. Convince him it's a long way off yet and stop them from getting ready. Second strategy, if he can't stop God from preparing a people, then kill the whole world off. If he can eliminate, if he can bring a world war, a nuclear war that will eliminate most of mankind, he can still achieve the same thing. He'll say, where are your people? You never produce a people. Yeah, but you destroyed them. I know, but you haven't produced the evidence. So Satan is trying to destroy as many people as possible and secondly, to destroy God's people.
49:05 What are your thoughts about the future? What are your plans for this immediate future? What are you going to do next? Well, immediate future, as far as me, is Monday I'm heading down to Florida doing a little maintenance on the airplane. Then I'm flying to Haiti to pick up a missionary, then going to Grenada for a board meeting with the conference, the conference there on our radio network. Then I'm going to Guyana and begin preparing the aviation program and help with the administration of our schools that we have there. Until the end of February, I'm going to be coming and going. Then I'm going back to Bolivia and hopefully not travel for a few months because I'm sick and tired traveling. I have to go to New Zealand. I just came from Australia. I have to go back to New Zealand in a few weeks. And so I just don't want to travel.
49:53 I want to sleep at Mount Beta again after 10 months. That's my immediate future for the next few months. But the more I speak, the more I go, the more invitations I get. And I did it for 10 years. I was in a different country every week for 10 years, 50 countries a year. And I did it for 10 years and I finally said, not anymore, Lord. I could do it occasionally but not at that pace. But what's coming up on the world is I believe that in the next year or two, we're going to see a conclusion of what's already started. We're going to see final events take a very concrete position and accelerate toward the last final events. We're already living in the last days, but I believe we have the government in place today here in North America that's going to implement the last final crisis against God's people.
50:51 And if you're out there making hay after the Sunday Law begins, what's the priority? Getting ready for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit because a loud cry is going to follow the latter rain. God's going to empower His people. So if you don't pay attention to the calendar, you're going to be out there making hay bales with your tractor when you should be up in the upper room praying with your brothers and sisters, getting ready to receive the Holy Spirit, right? But so we have to understand that God works according to that calendar. So three and a half years later, 42 months of Revelation 13, Rome will have power with the United States to enforce that and it'll get harder and harder. There's a famous quote from White's writing that says three things come together at that time, right?
51:42 There's apostate Protestantism. Well, she says Protestantism. Then she says the Roman power, which we know is the Vatican. And spiritualism. And spiritualism. So that means that if these three have to come together at that time, which is, I think, what you're describing, that come together, spiritualism has to already have a presence, right? I mean, I don't see it right now. So if there's three that have to come together, certainly we have spiritualism that makes an appearance before the Sunday law, right? Spiritualism is already in a lot of places. Following pagan customs and rituals is part of spiritualism. Like Halloween, Easter is pagan. So whenever you have pagan rituals that churches follow, already you've opened the door to spiritualism for more manifestations. But if you want a pure church that doesn't have anything with spiritualism, we have to cease to have any connection with pagan holidays and start paying attention to God's timing of things.
52:44 And yes, spiritualism is going to make direct entries into churches through miracles, through, well, Ezekiel. God took Ezekiel and told him, let me show you what is happening behind closed doors. Look what my people are doing. Look what the priests are doing. Look what the leaders of Israel are doing behind closed doors. And son of man, I will show you even worse things than this. We don't know what's happening. I do know that we have 33-digit level masons in our institutions. In our institutions? In our institutions. Wow. Pastor Walter Veit told me that the wife of one professor came and talked to him in one of our universities and said, my husband is a 33-degree mason. He's teaching at one of our universities. And there's a lot of other masons teaching there.
53:33 And so Walter Veit told her, but to get to the 33-degree level, you have to sacrifice a child. Yes. He had me have a child and he went and took and sacrificed it. I went to God 30 years ago and I said, I'll work for you if you pay the bills. If I run out of money, no problem. I got five professions. I can fly for the airlines. I can go work as an engineer. I can teach at the university. I can do a lot of things. No problem. But as long as you pay the bills, I'll keep going for you. And I haven't left 30 years ago. I've been going like this and it's just growing and growing and growing. Amen. Any closing thoughts? I believe in the next year or two, year or two, could be early next year. It could be the following year, but not too much more than that.
54:26 I believe we're going to see things wrap up and we're going to have to already, the God's people will already, will have had to make their choice. If you're not making choices today, you're choosing the wrong side. If you're sleeping indifferent and careless right now, you're going to choose to go with the world. It'll be too painful for you. It'll be too hard for you to try to switch sides because you never learned to trust God. Today's the time. We still have it. The door is still open. The ark, Noah is still standing there asking people if they want to come in. But once that door closes, and it will close one of these days, God's people, the five virgins, they did not get oil in their lamp. They're going to go looking for oil. They'll never find it. They're going to come knock on the door. He will say, I never knew you. But those that made their preparations, those that got oil, allowed the Holy Spirit to cleanse them from all worldliness, the love of the world, unrighteousness, they will go into the wedding.
55:24 And that wedding will be a beautiful wedding, and God will empower His people, and they're going to go to the whole world. It's not going to be easy, but those who want to get in later, they will never get in. So I believe we're right at the doors. And it's going to happen in the next year or two. And I think it'll be too late. So I would appeal to those that know the truth, God's remnant people, to do all they have to do to cooperate with Jesus in the most holy place and ask Him to cleanse them of all unrighteousness. He promises in 1 John 1.9, we confess He will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's what we need to cooperate. If we deny that Jesus is in the most holy place, there's nothing to do. Just keep living the way you always have and wait to see what happens. But if you understand what Jesus is doing, He's preparing a people.
56:15 He has to have a people. He cannot change Satan without that evidence. And right now, God is almost finished with it. And those of us that have been allowing Him to work with us, we'll have oil in the lamps. We'll go into the wedding. We'll receive the power. I so much want to be in that wedding and I so much want to receive that power, but not so much because I want to have power. It's just that I want to be part of the vindication that Christ and God, the Father, have been falsely accused. By Satan. And I want to vindicate His character and be part of that evidence that God needs to prove Satan a liar. And then, the day is coming, right? Jesus will come shortly after. But it'll be on the calendar right after the close of probation. When He steps out, it'll probably be on the Day of Atonement. It started on the Day of Atonement. James, James, I'm sorry, not James, Amos 3.7 says, The Lord God will do nothing without first informing the servants of prophets.
57:12 Look how long it took for Him to inform the world that He was beginning the judgment, the investigative judgment. He's not going to close it by surprise. He's going to let us know. And we're going to know when it's about to close. And it's probably going to close exactly on the Day of Atonement. And what follows the Day of Atonement is the Feast of Tabernacles. The Feast of Tabernacles is seven days followed by an eighth-day feast. Okay? Let me ask you. How many days are we going to be traveling to heaven on a cloud? Seven. Good. We're going to be traveling to heaven on the eighth day. We're going to arrive to the New Jerusalem and we're going to have the banquet supper of the Lamb. So even the last event of the year is going to be perfectly fulfilled in Jesus' coming. Huh. That's fascinating.
57:58 That's why we have to pay attention and not ignore it. But there's a hate for that. Everybody loves the pagan feasts, but there's a hate for the biblical ones. We need to at least understand God is still working according to that calendar. Let's pay attention to Him. Let's prepare our hearts and minds and let us pray. Let us tell our children, this is how God works. This is what happened. I tell people, I say, well, the Passover happened, they left Egypt. And then I say, well, but what did God leave in His place when Jesus died? The last supper. So we're to do the last supper to celebrate the Passover. Okay, good. But you know what? The biggest example of leaving Egypt is about to happen. In 10 Commandments it says, I am the Lord thy God that brought you out of the dead that brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Right?
58:48 A bondage. Guess what? This world is a land of bondage. There's slaves, child trafficking, prostitutes, drug addicts, slaves to sin. This is the land of Egypt. And God's, Jesus is going to come and take us out of this land. The biggest exodus that ever happened in history is about to happen. And so, that'll be, that'll be not a celebration of Passover, but it'll be another exiting of Egypt. And so, all these symbols of the past still point forward to a final glorious fulfillment. And we need to just be aware, keep our minds full of these things that God has done in the past. The Jews today, I went to Israel. The Jews today, many, many of their, many of their leaders and religious leaders are denying that God ever did anything for them. They say, it's all legend. They never crossed the Red Sea.
59:38 They never left Egypt. They never did any of that. Why are they saying it? Well, because they don't want to admit that they rejected the Messiah and that God has left them. So, it's easier to say, it's not our fault. God, it's God's fault. It's all legend. Never happened. God never did anything for us. We did it ourself. So, instead of admitting a mistake and saying, this is what God did for us, but we left God. They'd rather say, God never did anything for us. So, it's very sad. Israel was given the greatest blessing now, a message of being given great privileges in the spirit of prophecy and understanding of health and understanding of prophecy and last day events. Instead, we're denying it.
1:00:23 We're just walking away from it. We don't want anything in South America. You will find hostility if you want to talk about the health message. You want to talk about vegetarianism, you'll probably get thrown out of the church. We up here in North America, we're used to vegetarianism and health messages and stuff. Down there, if you even talk about it, bam, you're in other countries. I know it's not as big a deal. My wife is Indonesian and going over there, she says, no one's vegetarian. We have very few vegetarians over there and not very many people study all in white. So, I think that's interesting to hear it from a second source now. Yeah. So, it's time for us to get back to basics and focus on what God has given us and not deny it, just obey it and keep working and God will bless His people and very soon as events start to happen, we'll understand it even better.
1:01:13 And it will be even more clear. Then we'll look back and say, oh, now I understand. Right now, we're just kind of looking at probabilities and what it looks like. But once it happens, then we'll know. Very good. Very good. Can you pray for us? I'd be happy. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we are so grateful to You for all the time You've given us, all the information You've blessed us with, information on health, information that the world has not known, information about an understanding of prophecy, what's about to happen, the great controversy, how to fit into it, the doors that are open, how to avoid being deceived by spiritualism, how to stand firm on truth and understanding of Your commandments and understanding of Your instructions. Lord, we just want to say thank You. You have done so much for us, saved our lives. We're here alive today because of Your great mercy. We should have died a long time ago. Here we are, Lord, in salt. Bless each of the viewers, those that are watching. Bless them in a special way.
1:02:18 Put in their heart a conviction, Lord, that the time is now. Put away worldliness. Allow the Holy Spirit to cleanse us of all love of the world and let us be loyal to truth. Not human beings, but loyal to Biblical truth, regardless of the consequences. And God's special blessing will be upon us and our children and our families. Save our children, Lord. Save our loved ones and make us an example for the world in Your blessing like You had planned to do with Israel. Give that blessing to us and give us the resources we need to be able to do the work and the power we pray. In Jesus' name, amen.