2:09 Welcome, welcome to another Fireside, where we talk about absolute stranger things, but they pertain to everyday life here, and tonight is no exception. We're going to talk about some very strange things, but it's not me that's doing the presentation. It's actually Matthew, but we're going to do all three. We have several different people. Hey, Matthew went dark. I don't know what's going on here, but Matthew will be with us after a potty break, I think. Matthew, are you there? Well, I hope he's okay. I'm not sure what's happening, but I think we can run the show even if he's not available. I'm sure he'll text me in a moment, but we were having a little bit of technical difficulties tonight, so I'm assuming that we might be having the same thing. So, if you guys could pray for us, because man, the devil's working hard to try to get this to stop, I guess, tonight, and I want to see how you guys are doing.
3:08 Everyone in the... But before we do that, I want to introduce Deb and Meredith. They are part of our Discord group, and they were passionate about this topic tonight because we have some very interesting talking points because of a Marifest. I think that's happened. Is that what it's called? I'll look at you, Deb. Is it called Marifest? I think it is, but I think Meredith probably is a little more on top of it. She did the bullet points. That's right. That's right. What do you... Where did this come from? Did you know about it ahead of time, or how did you find out about this? Actually, it was in the Discord. That's where I seen it. I think it was Roke that put it up there, and I just watched it and was just baffled. Absolutely.
3:57 I was amazed by things that were talked about. Absolutely. Yeah, it was a couple hours, and I think, actually, it's the last couple days, so I'm curious to see the others that come about this whole thing. And I'm going to definitely dig into it a little bit further. I am getting a little bit nervous. Matthew, Matthew, there you are. Wow. Don't be nervous. Don't worry, Brad. I'm right here. What happened to you? Well, for a moment, I got mixed up, and I thought it was Sunday, and we run a longer intro on Sunday. So I was like, oh, I got time. I'm just going to go over here, get myself some water, you know, go to the bathroom, everything is good, and I come back, oh, wait a second, it's Thursday. So that's on me. That's where I was.
4:48 That was exciting. But we had a good talk. We talked a little bit about Marifest and what was going on. I didn't have my lights on. Introduced Deb and Meredith, and thank you guys so much for doing the commentary on this tonight, because it's a very interesting topic. I watched the whole show, and I definitely had some pieces I want to pull out of there, and I'm sure you guys did, too. And so, Meredith? Meredith, you did the bullet points, and Matthew, you chopped it up, and kind of lead the way, Matthew, tonight. I'm kind of curious what everyone's thoughts are on this. What's coming up next? Well, I think you covered it, most likely, while I wasn't here, but it was a meeting. It was hosted by Turning Point USA, which is a political action group.
5:36 Mainly, they just kind of come from a conservative... leaning, Republican-leaning political affiliation, but it was a special occasion. They had the guy, his name is Tim Poole, and Tim Poole runs TimCast, so it was kind of like a special episode of TimCast, where it was taking place on the stage at a Marifest hosted by Turning Point USA. So that's what you're seeing. And they had some... Well, the heaviest hitter that they had was definitely... Tucker Carlson, who, ever since he departed from Fox News, we've been seeing him make his rounds on all the alternative media platforms, and he's kind of come up with his own media platform, which we've covered a bit, but he's Tucker on X now, and he's kind of Tucker Unleashed. And we're going to see... We're going to see what Tucker has to say here, as well as some of the other panelists, but I was paying special... Special attention to Tucker, because a while back, when we heard that he departed from Fox News, I said, this could do something for him, and let's expect him to talk about the UAP issue more, because he's not going to be held back by a major network telling him, yeah, we don't want to cover that as extensively.
7:00 He's able to go into detail about very many things, and particularly, we're going to see him kind of go in about his faith, as well. So it opens the door to... It opens the door to conversations for us here, where we can talk about maybe some of the spiritual implications from the topics that they're going to bring up. But firstly, we're just going to jump right into this. The panel is assembled. They've been on the stage together for roughly 30 minutes at this point, when this was brought up. And this kind of segues into this whole topic, where they start talking about kind of Christianity and spiritual realities for a good 15, 20 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. And I want to remind everyone, we're going to get to this UFO stuff next week. They actually talk about this in this, and we're going to talk all about that, because there's some deeper-seated issues, and there's other things in the podcast that tie into that. We've already got the show made.
7:55 It's amazing. So don't miss it. And, before we do the B-roll, I want to call out SDA Lou. Thank you for the super chat. He says, keep up the good work. And I want to remind everyone, subscribe. Hit that bell icon. Hit that like button. And you'll see it flash at the bottom of the screen. That's some new YouTube feature. Whenever you say that initially on the broadcast, it lights up the buttons now. Kind of cool. But anyway, let's get into it. Are you ready for the B-roll? Yeah, I think we're ready. Well, before we go, I just want to address, because this is kind of more of a community night, by the way, here on Thursday nights. And I see a new viewer, Trevor Maffetone, says, please tell me you all don't buy into the right-V-left paradigm. LOL. No. No. We don't. We don't buy into it. Personally, I don't buy into it. I don't think any of the guests here or Brad buy into it.
8:49 We have to examine what's going on in the world. We have to see what they're saying. We really are observers and we're watchers because Jesus commanded us to watch. So what more do we have to do than say, okay, well, what are you saying? What's going on out there? So this is in no way an endorsement of any political parties or political ideas. Ideologies. We're simply going to sit here and listen to what they have to say and give our opinions on it based on God's word. Absolutely. Ready when you are. Let's roll. Yep. Cops open the door. We are shrugging. We walk inside for a few minutes. We walk out. No idea anything ever happened. Next thing we know, the feds are at our door. These are not people who even, as you described, Tucker, these are people who are just there to see Trump speak and happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. So how about no on that?
9:35 I mean, when is some... Honestly. I don't want to put anyone in jeopardy, but like until people say we're just not playing along with this anymore, obviously Congress isn't going to help. You know the problem? Totally for it. We talked before about religion. Christianity is like the battlefield of the culture war and you were talking about demonism and Satanism creeping into the culture in a lot of ways. I think one of the problems with Christianity is that it encourages people to be subservient to a church and then therefore subconsciously they become subservient to a government. Like why aren't they saying no? Why aren't they saying no? What in the world is going on there? Well, that's a Tim Kast regular. I don't know his last name, but his name is Ian. I don't really keep up with the Tim Pool, Tim Kast, but I've seen a bit of their stuff and this Ian guy seems to always kind of come at it from an angle where he's not the biggest fan of Christianity is what I've surmised.
10:32 And even there you see he's talking about how as Christians we are weak and we are subservient to the church and we're subservient to the government. I just want to pitch it to one of our guests here. Meredith, we'll start with you. What do you think about that concept? What do you think about what Ian just said there? Yeah, he's more of the one that is like the scientific, you know, it's all about science and he's a lot into computers and things like that. So I really feel like, you know, I don't know what his relationship is. I don't know what his relationship is. I don't know what his relationship is. I don't know what his relationship is. I don't know what his religious affiliation is or if he is any, but he definitely doesn't go for it apparently as much as everybody else on the panel.
11:26 He's definitely not one on the panel that says anything, but I don't think that he, I think he was trying to allude that, you know, if we're being subordinate to, sorry, subservient to the church. Then we would be to the government and, you know, that's not who we're supposed to be serving to is to God and that is the main focus for us. So I don't think he quite gets it. Absolutely. What do you, oh, I'm sorry, I was. No, I just want to grab this super chat just before we go to Deb. Deb, hold your thoughts just for a second. I want to, I want to acknowledge. I try to do this. It's as soon as they come in, but I have to hold, hold, hold, because I don't want to interrupt anyway.
12:16 But Minuwatix, I think that's how you say it, Minuwatix, Minuwatix, Revelation 2214 says, she didn't say anything, but she did say a lot with that username. So let's look at what Revelation 2114 says, probably a good thing to look at. Revelation 2214 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city. Amen. Very important. Very, very important. Thank you for your contribution. That's how we continue this broadcast. We appreciate it. I didn't want, I wanted to catch that. And thank you for holding your thoughts, Deb. Go ahead. What are you going to say? Oh, you're muted. Oh, no. She's fine. I kind of missed that. She'll unmute. I kind of missed the clip because I was liking and sharing the video. Oh, okay. Okay. And it's hard to do that. So, and pay attention.
13:05 So I didn't pay attention to that one. You guys seem to care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, no worries. So I think I cover it pretty good. So I'm ready, I'm on the ball now. Okay. Okay. No, no worries. One of the things that this Ian guy, he kind of gives off this idea that Christians are the weakness of a Christian. I don't think that we are called to be weak at all. When you put yourself below God, who is the all powerful being, the Creator, you are saying I want to be loyal to you. I want to obey your commandments. And I don't want to say, well, it's your commandment. to ever transgress against you out of love and out of faith that this is what you want me to do. That doesn't make you weak. Look at any of the people who were martyred for their faith, who went to their deaths in front of a cheering crowd. Most of them burned to death. Some of them beheaded. Some of them just having really terrible, awful things done to them. But they walked down and they would not recant. They stuck to their convictions. They didn't succumb to fear.
14:19 I believe the only way that you're able to do something like that, it is supernatural. It's God imparting this courage to you, this steadiness. And not only that, but allowing for their deaths to be a witness to those around them. And just, again, perpetuating the message of God, bringing people to God. Even closer. Brad, did you have something you want to say about this? No, that's exactly right. I just want to bounce off what you said. I think it's very important, and I think this was actually brought up a little bit later, surprisingly, by another guy on the panel. But we are, absolutely, as Christians, I believe we're supposed to be helpful and follow the laws of the land unless they go against God's law. Because that's our main objective, is to follow the Lord. The law of the land, make something that is absolutely separate from what we know is true and dear, and it goes against our conscience. That's when things start to go awry. And that's when Christianity will put a foot forward and say, absolutely not. I mean, what did Christ say? He said, I didn't, I brought a sword. Father against brother. I mean, I'm going to misquote it, but the essence of it is, yeah, there's going to be a problem here. We aren't, called as Christians to, you know, stand up and cause war. We're not, we're not the kind that flies planes in the buildings or anything like that. But we definitely, definitely need to stand up for what we believe in, what our conscience and what the Holy Spirit essentially says is correct.
15:58 And even without a fight, we have strength. Even without a fight, you know, to attend to, we're strong as Christians. And the idea that Christianity is a, is a weak thing is one of Satan's biggest deceptions. And most, you know, it's working well for him. Yes. There is a natural enmity. We are humble. Right. And that sets us apart. And that sets us directly against Satan, who is the enemy of God. And that is why there is a natural enmity there between people who are going to go about living their lives. in accordance with how christ taught having faith in jesus and his sacrifice on the cross that just bothers the devil to no end because he wants you for his own and he wants you for his own to spite god it's not like how god wants you for his own because he wants a loving relationship with you and he wants to have this eternal life where you're you're living together with him and you're living together with all of your fellow believers satan's just says yeah i don't want you with him and it really i mean if you just have to be with me it's one or the other you just can't serve two masters so come over to me it'll really spite that guy and uh you know welcome to my kingdom of competition bitterness hatred where if you can get a leg up on someone by pulling the rug out from under them yeah go ahead and do that you'll make your you'll make your lord very proud right exactly because that's strong it's survival of the fittest down here in satan's kingdom you know i i think i threw in the the wrench just a minute ago that said you know what we don't uh throw planes in the buildings and stuff like that i'm gonna push that a little bit further why is it and i know the answer this i'm just kind of being devil devil's advocate per second why is it we are not uh like that with our religion why aren't we as forceful with our religion as they are we are not like that with our religion why aren't we as forceful with our i'm not gonna say who but the religion that i'm referring to is why what what sets us apart as different anybody want to tackle that i don't think we want to step on each other's toes brad no that's fine matthew go for it well we haven't been commanded to evangelize like that specific religions have been commanded to go forward and to commit acts of violence and acts of terror against people in order to sway them away from what they're doing and to do what they're doing whatever beliefs they have whatever convictions they have we we are called to follow the example set by jesus christ as i said and the way that jesus evangelized was on a very personal level he was of course very based in the scriptures being the ultimately the one who's inspiring these men to write the scriptures it simply is not in the character of god to menace people to follow him so in turn it shouldn't be in our character as a christian to menace people to believe the way that we believe yeah and it goes against the commandments i mean you can't thou shalt not kill even if the people are absolutely um horrid we're not we're not commanded to uh to destroy them i think at the end of time i think a lot of christians are going to get this wrong revelation says that they're going to say that revelation 13 says that at the end of time there's antichrist that comes and says absolutely these people they need to die if they don't worship the beast and so i i think that's a fatal flaw in understanding uh understanding god understanding you know what the the truth
19:53 anyway i'm gonna let that go but i could go on and on about that right it comes down to force yeah yeah yeah and we're we're not going to try to to force anybody on that issue so he'd kind of drop that grenade there and for all of us we're going to try to force anybody on that issue we're going to try to force anybody on that issue so he'd kind of drop that grenade there and for all of us having this christian leaning we're immediately going to jump on it and we have answers we have an explanation for someone who's just going to kind of lob that accusation at us well i found it refreshing that people on the stage had a response to what he had to say it wasn't just a comment that uh slipped away so i want to take a listen to what his peers there had to say there we go well a man has as many masters as he does vices and the reality is you're a slave to something and if you choose to be a slave to god as opposed to a slave to god you're a slave to the government you will be the most difficult possible man to conquer but it's the way they define god you've got to be aware that we didn't define god he told us who he was i think and i think ian uh i agree but but but i don't i don't disagree with ian's point but i think it would have to be refined in that there are people who masquerade pretend or don't truly understand and would use faith to manipulate others i mean we see this in government especially when democrats claim to be the real christians but then say the church is in favor of say abortion or something like that yeah and i'm obviously i'm speaking from a thoroughly protestant perspective but i don't see my reading of christianity just like the text does not at all indicate loyalty to a church it indicates fealty to god and so i first of all it's not incompatible with being a citizen at all um i think christians make the best citizens actually and you can absolutely support your government and support your god but if it comes down to it if your government is actively opposing god you really do have to make a choice between those two masters wow so i thought that was a really impressive response uh specifically from from tucker carlson i didn't really expect something like that coming out of him and and he's right he about christians being a decent citizen i've said it before i think on the show where uh yeah if i'm going to obey the bible and live by the bible and go by the commandments of god i'm going to obey the bible and live by the bible and live by the commandments of god what are you afraid of by me telling you hey i'm a christian you shouldn't be afraid of me at all because it's a god that's told me not to lie to you god that's told me not to even be jealous of the things you have i i'm not going to kill you i'm not going to commit adultery these are things that these are this is the expectation that i'm going to live up to and of course i'm not saying that i'm going to do it absolutely perfectly but somebody who is living and has a lot of the holy spirit in them and has a conviction they are going to stick as closely to that as they possibly can and i i just it's ridiculous i think whatever people kind of attack christians go ahead deb you have something to say i don't i don't know the verse that says um against such there is no law but that's what i think of you know with what he was saying you know christians are good citizens you know they're really you there really isn't anything against them against uh a good christian you know as a citizen at this point you're talking about the fruit of the spirit well and and just what uh you know what he was saying as a christian as a citizen you know um they're good people it's it is good and and the bible does say you know against such things as um just being a decent human being really i can't remember the verse but you know there is no law against such things we are coming to a point um where there will be a law against such things i mean and that's where we're headed with but that's what these guys are um speaking out against it's an interesting conversation they end up having here it's definitely a pendulum that's swinging isn't it something's happening right meredith do you have any thoughts on it well i was just saying you know a lot of people i think um are so disconnected they don't know the bible and they don't know the gospel and they don't know the gospel and they don't know the bible and so that there's an issue with knowing exactly you know how could they trust that that we wouldn't be that way because they're seeing what the world's producing and so they're living and or at least looking at this lie that's being told you know within movies within music within you know it's this whole facade and if you're not in the word of god then you don't you don't have your eyes open to a lot of the things that are going on in the world and so i think it's interesting to see that there's a lot of this so how could you trust as much because if you don't
24:48 have god in your life then you know it's hard to trust anyone brad what do you think what did you think about those responses well i thought it was interesting because at first i thought it was getting political they went into abortion and stuff and i was like oh no where are they going with this you know and i i me i personally i believe that we do live in uh a society that is very politically charged and but it's it's satan's role i do believe there is there is a truth about this and i don't want to get into it but i think it's it was it was fascinating to see what's happening because uh you have some truths that are very politically charged very christianized and it it tends to pull people and say well look this side's christian this side's not ah we need to fight that's that's not how things work um i i we if you look at how the politics work they're made to make people angry with each other we are all human we're all trying to figure this out and each side thinks they're fighting for rights that are valuable and so that's that's you got to take two steps back and go okay if everyone thinks that they are truly fighting for religious bounds what's really happening here something something big and so i i was a big takeaway from that not just what tucker said i think he was on track but um also about the political stuff right something about tucker carlson that i've been keeping my eye on him he was at this particular event and he said that he was doing something that i really i was like hmm i i wonder here because i do i pray for different celebrity figures i suppose you could say uh big name people i think we should do that as much as we pray for the people in our individual lives if we these people on the news and we have a desire for them to come to christ then we should be praying about it we should we should really be open and tucker is someone who's he's he's coming to my prayers a couple of times and especially after seeing this clip which i just thought maybe this will help give us a little bit of context behind why he's speaking this way this was taken from five months ago and i think maybe we're seeing some of the fruits from what tucker is up to here we go and i thought well i'm just going to read the bible and no i'm not going to do a bible study i'm a protestant so i feel like i have a right to kind of read it myself and i know i'm sorry i feel that way and uh and so i've been reading it since february and i'm like about halfway done and and i haven't talked to anyone about it and i haven't been in it just been myself reading it and and i've all kind of it's like the most interesting thing i think i've ever done it's unbelievable the amount of drama in those books that has been hidden for me as a regular churchgoer in the episcopal church like wait why didn't you ever mention this is like unbelievable what but the two things i have come away with after reading the entire new testament and i'm up to deuteronomy in the old testament is the every part with exception of jesus every figure is like really flawed big time like flawed in a way where you'd be like i don't know if i could be friends with that person you know what i mean abraham enters egypt and he's like oh it's my sister actually take her i was saying to my wife who was a who was a religion teacher i was like why didn't anyone what is that and she's like maybe the point is that god takes people who are not perfect people not only not perfect people like they're so imperfect again i don't think i can have dinner with them and uses them for these grander purposes that's the first thing i noticed the second thing i notice is that people while they have free will of course and they can make decisions and they live with the consequences of those decisions they're not really in charge of the arc of history they are being acted upon a lot amen okay and i never really appreciated that because i'm american and so i grew up with this feeling that we're the sum total of our choices well that's not what i'm reading at all yeah people's choices matter you need to do certain things and not do other things on the other hand you are not in charge you are being acted upon by a world you can't see and that by the way is consistent with my life experience like i've seen that i've lived that i'm 54 wow so is this the first time tucker everyone else talk at the same time is this the first time that tucker's read the bible is that is that what you gathered from this this is i mean perhaps he's read it he's been a christian he said he uh i think further in the previous uh podcast that he said that uh he left the episcopalian church but um i think it's interesting that he's saying
29:45 hey look i'm i believe that i should read the bible and so i'm going to and now maybe he has a little more time on his hands and he's going to read the bible and so i'm going to read the bible to take that time to do that praise god i think that's fantastic um and it's interesting because i when i first read it i was amazed at how each these stories were were uh drew a big story together and i was like wow everything hooks together this is amazing and i was as as much energy as he he is up there right now that's that's fantastic so i think that's cool it really is that's really something good no that's it's just it's very exciting to see i'm i can see why you would um you know say a prayer for him because he's very excited about it he's genuinely honestly um excited about what he's reading there and and it doesn't sound like he has read it before because he said you know this has been hidden from him as an episcopalian because i don't know apparently episcopalians uh don't really read it for themselves either that was hilarious he's like i feel like i have the right to read it for myself being a protestant i thought that was really great because that's something that a lot of protestants these days they don't know what they're protesting and they don't know their bible and i i listened to this guy a little bit i can't remember his first name was um bet lover or something like that kind of an odd name but he had a really interesting take on um you know how the fact that people have a lot to say about religion they've got a lot to say about your religion and his religion and uh but my religion came from a protestant and they don't know what they're protesting and they don't know why that's happening and they don't like that and then you know if i haven't listened to anything just for myself x with christ and people and you know don't i probably feel like i'm most open to knowing where house is going where anything's going where i stand or where i believe the one thing that's really important to me about the way that people talk about about them is how do i get people to believe you know what i've been through it's one of those weird times when people are hearing shitty things they get really mad at me really big time and people get really um, is through his word. So I think it's amazing that he's reading it and, and, and to, for him to say, you know, there's so much drama in the Bible. He has no idea that is, um, an amazing living book that, um, is, is every, everywhere you read the Bible, you, you're able to find Jesus. Like, um, I actually went through the whole Bible again, reading it. And I, I searched to find Jesus in every single story in every single, um, book of the Bible. And, and when you do that, it just, it, it opens your mind, um, to so much more because you're able to see Christ all the way through, you know, every single, um, person, every single story, Christ is in it.
32:46 I think, Matthew, uh, I, I, I'm, I'm so bubbling. I'm going to talk, but I want you to say what you're going to say. Go for it. Hold on. I was going to look at the chat. So why don't you say what you want to say? And then I'm going to take a peek at the chat. Well, I, I think it's interesting because someone just said, and I do remember this because I, I, I looked into this deeply too. Um, they said, well, well, Tucker Carlson, he's Kabbalah. We've seen him wear the red thread around his wrist. I mean, obviously he must be Kabbalah, right? And, and I have seen that. He has worn that. And, uh, you know, as much as, um, and I've, I've said this before on this channel and I hate to beat a dead horse, but we see this stuff. Symbolism doesn't mean everything. It could be that people change their minds. People change. I don't know. Maybe he's a setup. I think it's wonderful that he's just reading the Bible, regardless of if he is Kabbalah or, or if he's, he's decided to join the occult. If he's reading the Bible, that thwarts everything. Fantastic. I'm, I'm glad he's, he's, uh, inspired by what he's reading and he's, uh, he's at least going down the right path. That's all I want to say. Right. Well, that is the hope. We're hoping that Tucker is going down the right path and we're just kind of trying to piece it together based off of this appearance and what he's had to say. Um, I want to point out B Blues, who is a regular viewer of ours says, be careful not to look for reasons to align with people like this simply because they started reading scriptures. The enemy of God will be readers of scriptural scripture. Be careful, false light movement. And, uh, also adds these people glorify country more than God.
34:27 Well, I, I agree with you. Actually, I'm a very hesitant person. I like to follow the example that the Bereans has set up for Paul, where they tested him against the scripture. So I'm just basing it off of what I'm hearing Tucker say in this particular instance. And in some of his more recent appearances as well, I see that someone mentions that he had Alex Jones on his show. And that's true. We covered that a bit. And the things that Alex Jones were saying, I think were contradicting scripture. And we address those things. We, we brought up those points and we said, okay, Alex is going off on these tangents. He's calling prophets psychics and saying that there's a psychic loop of people on different timelines. And revelation is a warning that we don't have to live through the evil timeline. We can align with the good timeline. And that's just not what the Bible has to say. So if Tucker Carlson starts coming out and saying stuff like that, yeah, better believe we'll, we'll address that. But as far as his, his response to that, I felt like it was in line with the scriptures and, uh, I do. And I enjoyed the response. He's learning, he's growing and it may be for a nefarious purpose in the end. It may not be genuine, but as a, as a Bible believer, when I see someone that excited about what he's reading, I have to say, you know, uh, Godspeed and God be with you, you know, as you're reading, you know, no matter, no matter if you have, nefarious purposes, you're reading the Bible and that does not, uh, come back to God void. So.
36:04 Yeah. And this is why we're going to keep an eye on these different things. And yeah, if there's something that needs to be brought to our attention and our audience's attention, then, then we'll go over it at that point. But I do, I have hope that there will be a conversion of some number of people. I know that it's a narrow path. I know that, uh, the majority will not be entering into eternal life. That's Jesus told us that, so I'm taking him at his word. But I know someone like Nebuchadnezzar who erected a giant gold statue of himself and demanded worship of it. He eventually writes a chapter in the Bible, the fourth chapter of Daniel is Nebuchadnezzar. And it's really, really inspiring to see what he had to say. So I have hope I have a, a biblical, uh, biblical, biblical, biblical news for the, uh, hope i have a a biblical example set for me that someone like that can be repentant and can come in line with god's will so that's what i uh that's what i hope for very good but he's right in the chat you know we have to be careful because satan knows scripture and we that's why we have to align not with people but with the word of god yes absolutely and we'll continue to align ourselves with the word of god and we will see what kind of fruits are being born all right so yep uh let's just continue with this because they do talk a bit more about like i said the spiritual realities that are going on and mainly how we are acted upon it's almost he's kind of going to elaborate a little bit more about what he was talking about about five months ago okay here we go you are subject to forces from outside yourself that is absolutely true now we can argue about what they are but every person in the room if he's reflective will tell you yes i know what you're talking about and so there are forces that are not human that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind that we cannot see and that when you think about it sort of make you think we live in an ant farm yeah right and that's just that is real okay and there's many artists also talking about how essentially what they do and their greatest works of art is usually done through channeling every by the way every artist will tell you that every artist that something happened that they're they're they're not themselves that they just were doing their art and then something just transcended no but and it's not just visual arts it's it's every creative act brings you closer to something outside the human realm and you can feel it whether it's woodworking or writing or painting a painting or writing an opera or writing a rap song or whatever anything that is true and beautiful or anything that is dark and destructive is almost certainly a product of forces acting upon you and you can feel it what do you think about that that was an interesting little bit do you think you agree you disagree what what's uh or maybe a bit of both yeah yeah a little bit of both i suppose i mean um i definitely think that it's true actually i mean i think there's more that i'm thinking of that wasn't in this clip that i don't necessarily agree with but i do think i agree with with everything he said here we are on a line uh to one uh pole or the other every every decision that we make um takes us in one direction or the other i do believe that i have some things to say about it go ahead go ahead no no it's fine go ahead i'll say it i'm just gonna say it uh so i think uh that what's fascinating about this is he says that uh we're in an ant farm right we're in an ant farm it's almost like we're in an ant farm well he's kind of right i mean i mean if you break it down to the whole whole uh thing even though we are uh a part of this universe that god created i believe that every every aspect of god's creation angels whatever else if you believe that absolutely are looking at this going huh wow wow this has never happened before what is going on this is this is a spectacle in the in the in the cosmos and so yeah we are kind of the the ant farm in the middle of the room and uh seeing what's going to happen and how we're going to build our our uh our society here and if we're actually going to accept the truth of the lord jesus christ another thing he said is that uh
40:55 every creative art brings you close to something what do you say spiritual or some kind of a spiritual entity um that you we've seen that and he mentioned specifically you know different types even dark or or not so dark it um i'm gonna have to chew on that for a minute because i i i also believe that solomon i think says in ecclesiastes 9 11 easy to remember in america ecclesiastes 9 11 says um time and chance happens to us all so in other words it's some things are absolutely by um by happen chance i mean things happen but also let's also remember that god has a huge hand in what's going on here and the devil does too so but god is more powerful uh and so i think it's it's important to to realize there's much much more complexity than just one thing happening here so i appreciate what he said but there's to hear happens in the first thing it really does matter to. Chris Pine Jones 402 used scriptures to record the Shift, Self Gain, Existence, Law of Attraction, The Everlasting Way. Listen, it's not a manual solution. It's a laid-out,躺 harder, Self there's fascinating things going on yeah it's it's one of those things he was talking about how there's kind of a pull to the light or to the dark and um it kind of automatically my mind goes to be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness and what communion hath light with darkness that's from uh second corinthians 6 14 and there is a division there it's a uh you can't have it joined together and again there's just kind of this idea that you can't serve two masters it's one way or the other i would just be careful with creative endeavors i suppose because the devil is capable of producing things that we perceive as beautiful and are used to invoke emotion in us and essentially draw us into whatever scheme he has it makes us vulnerable one way or another that's one thing i could think of but i do know he's correct in that we are being acted on yeah and there is a vested interest in humanity and i think each individual soul is there's a war being fought and it's a unique war that's being fought you and it's it's up to us to have enough of a uh spiritual awareness to say yes that is happening despite how crazy some people might think we are for for saying that and living that way it we know that this is what it is there's free will but free will it and i suppose it's probably always been this way but um free will is always being um acted upon by by uh you know good and bad i feel like it's um we we have we have our free will but if we don't give it to god it will it will just default to satan eventually and sooner rather than later in this climate because our we just don't have the power to um combat the forces that are at play right now there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are forces on you know and that's why you have to know the lord you've got to stay in the word you've got to have that force in your life absolutely opposed to the other something i want to mention matthew i know you're leading this um but i people in the chat are are discussing what is christian nationalism and i want to cover that real quick why in the world did did we pick the the uh the title to be this i think i i think we need to encompass what it is we're talking about we're talking about this tonight because i think it's a fascinating topic and the reason why it's so fascinating is because uh at the end of time revelation talks about how christianity and apostasy will both start to follow this beastly power into terrible how is that going to happen how do you how do you have something that has real teeth and has power over christianity i think i think it's easy to understand how how um apostasy happens inside something that's not following christianity but but the the reason why we chose the term christian nationalism is because it's a belief system that seeks to merge christianity with national identity and politics
45:41 merge christianity with nationality so in other words equate politics to christianity am i am I stating that right i looked it up on on bing yeah because you're right it's basically emerging as of right yeah and that's what we are project 2025 project 2025 right and that's what we're seeing happening right now i think we're seeing the pendulum swing hard to one side of the whole pendulum and i think this is the beginning of it i think i mean it's been happening for a while but we're really seeing things pop right now when when these um these especially like Tucker carlson who has been ousted from fox gets up and says you know what i will never be put down again I'm starting my broadcast system, and that way I can't be canceled ever again. And all these other podcasters who have millions of followers are also on him. Tucker actually has a YouTube channel right now that has the least amount of followers, but he's a very well-known name. And so, you've got all these very, very well-known newscasters who are very politically charged, and they're all claiming Christianity. That is interesting, to me, anyway. I mean, because I see that as a huge red flag that's happening right now. And although I hope that this is a good thing, and that we're swinging in the right direction, just as we swung too far to the left, I think we're going to start to get back to the middle now, and then swing really hard to the right. And that's what I think is happening. I think Project 2025 says that is what's happening. I think that is the manifesto for 2025. If you watch Truth Matters at all, those guys are... They're on top of it. And it's... It is... So many major, major corporations and everything are involved with that and on board with it. And these guys, I wouldn't even know if these guys know what it is. They are just nationalists. They're just Christian nationalists, kind of more like with that mindset, which is the mindset to force others to go along with them, that they don't want to.
47:55 They don't want to feel, you know, are in line. I mean, that's what Project 2025 is all about, is leading toward that force. Fascinating. Do we have anything else we want to add before we go on to the next clip? Nope. This is something that I found interesting. As I get on the topic of possession, and that's something that a lot of... I guess in the mainstream, the secular world, I don't even think it's a question that... They would say possession is not a thing. It was just a mental illness that was misunderstood or misascribed. So to have them just suddenly bring up possession and how there's a reality of it, I think that bears worth looking at. So let's roll the clip and see what we've got. Boom! God created us to participate in creation with him, to participate in his creativity and make things. That's right. And since everyone here is cool, I'll say this. Oh, this one. With respect to demons and spiritual forces, there's a priest who was laicized towards the end of his career. He's relatively controversial, but he was an exorcist by the name of Malachi Martin. And one thing he said about exorcism cases is that in films, you see all of these over-the-top portrayals of heads spinning and vomiting. And he said when it comes to things like vomiting and all of these supernatural visual indicators of possession, that those are the cases that are the most mild because the soul is trying to fight back and with forms of perfect possession.
49:29 Yeah. There's forms of possession. You can't tell when you look at the person because they're perfectly content with the evil thing they're doing. And then you look at the way people in D.C. act, you look at the way our political leaders act, and you go, is it that much of a stretch to say some of these people—and this is not some crazy outsider belief. Jesus performs exorcisms in the Bible. Like, this is not something that Christians— And does it make you wonder that no doctor has ever been able to explain where exactly schizophrenia comes from? That's exactly it. I bet it's parasites. And that we cannot treat it. We can suppress it, but we cannot treat it. And there's no kind of baseline for it. Not at all. The science has not penetrated schizophrenia. So, like, what is that? What is that? God created us to participate in creation with him. My fault. I hit the button twice. What is that? So, I think he mentions a few different things here that we can go on. Perfect possession, number one. I would use the word human being as fighting back because I believe that's what soul actually means when he talks about the soul fighting back. But I truly do believe that.
50:29 There might actually truly be some possession in schizophrenia. I don't know. I'm not a medical doctor, and I'm not going to say absolutely for sure that all schizophrenia is demonic possession, but yeah. There absolutely could be something to that. that i think uh perfect call on the next person sorry we're working with the delay people anybody who's watching that's why sometimes there's like a an awkward air of silence because it's like okay when do i speak before i step on meredith's toes sorry meredith go ahead yeah you're okay um when he was talking about perfect um possession you know that's something that should be red flags to us you know when we think movies like he said in movies you know we think of the vomiting and the head spinning and the you know all the theatrics but honestly you know satan's a little um slyer than that and um i think when he really possesses somebody he's going to use them for into his complete intent to um really deceive and do what he needs to be done um to get the the going in his direction the way he you know what he wants so you won't know and what would scare you that's when it's dangerous. So that's why knowing the Word of God and knowing exactly when somebody is stating things and you have to go back to the Bible and say, okay, does this align with God's Word? And so that way you know you're not going to be deceived. When it comes to somebody being possessed, we have a great example actually in Judas. Who in John 13, 27, it says, After the sop, meaning when Judas sopped his bread, Satan entered into him.
52:29 Then Jesus said unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. At that moment when Satan entered him, it wasn't like, yeah, he didn't levitate off the ground and start speaking backwards and his eyes didn't roll into the back of his head. Satan was in Judas at that time. The most powerful fallen angel that there is. And it was just Jesus who looked over knowingly and told him to do what he was going to do. No one else at the table went nuts and grabbed him or had any real reaction to it. And I think it's because possession can be that subtle. As for the reference to Malachi Martin, I mean, the man at that table, he does have a Catholic background. So he's going to place a level of his, I guess, his confidence, his belief in what the priests have said and what the Catholic Church's traditions have laid out for him.
53:32 But that's why I just like to turn to the Bible and say, Okay, well, where can I find the Bible telling me of an instance where somebody is possessed and what did it look like? Because we also see in John, there are other possessed people and they're clearly possessed. They are tearing at them. They're throwing themselves onto fires. It's just a huge walking red flag, you could say, that everybody knew. There is something very spiritually wrong right here. But then there are these instances where it's just so subtle that you would never suspect. I think that has to do with the, I mean, obviously it has to do with the person that is being possessed. And that's where, you know, you come into... Some people... Some people are, everyone's deceived when it comes to Satan that are like under his control.
54:26 They're all deceived. But there are some people who, like, I don't know. I watched a show the other day and it was about Satanists. And all of them said, you know, they just found this book and read it. And they were like, oh, that's me. There are more people like me. I mean, they, there are just some people that crave what Satan wants to give them. And to be perfectly possessed, I mean, I think some people probably enjoy that part of it, too, because there is a power. I'm sure there's a power, you know. And I think that's something that a lot of movies are making, you know, something that a kid would desire. That would be, it's making it desirable to be possessed and have familiars and everything with a lot of the movies that are going around.
55:20 Yeah, essentially to be special, be made special. Right, right. And have powers. I mean, I honestly believe, you know, we are coming to that point where people are going to have the ability to become possessed and have powers. I mean, I mean, all these movies aren't for nothing. Right, right. 100%. And I think there's a lot more than people really think. There's going to be a time when it's going to be absolutely. It's going to be absolutely chaos spiritually. I mean, I truly believe just before the end of time that, you know, the second coming of Christ, there will be a time of a false revival that people will think, hey, look, I can, look what I can do. I have the spirit of God. That would be a huge deception. That would be a part of the huge deception. I agree, Deb. Absolutely. I would say Beyonce and Jay-Z are probably both perfectly possessed. I mean, that's, I have no, you know, I don't know them.
56:20 But I know what I've seen of them. And you don't know if you are. That's the deception. Sorry, I didn't mean to walk on you there. I was passionate. I think some of them do know they are. You know, especially like Beyonce. She says, you know, she does stuff that she could never do as herself when she's on stage, you know. And they're okay with it because they're making money off of it. That's true. They probably don't realize what it is. They, I mean, I'm sure they realize. It's a possession of some sort. But, you know, this is where all the alien nonsense and all these other things, you know, ascent of masters and stuff come into play. Right. We don't want to be discriminating. Yeah, no, I've actually heard some Christian, not artists, but just Christian. It was a YouTube video I saw. And the Christian band who was on stage at a church service said, yeah, I just felt it come over me.
57:15 And all of a sudden I was able to play by myself and I did all this stuff. And, man, it was just like I was just sitting there. I was just sitting there watching myself play. And I thought, well, it's not good. And I think that's the Holy Spirit. Right. Yeah. I don't think that's the Holy Spirit coming over you, making you. The Holy Spirit's not a drummer. That's even worse, though. That's almost worse, though. Holy Spirit. Well, I just don't know. I'm trying to think about, like I said, biblical examples. I think biblical instances. I don't know where, like, the Holy Spirit has fully overshadowed someone to where they were just doing things not of their own accord. I know that God has empowered people. Like, I think about Samson, for example, like picking up the city gates. That is massive. And I'm sure that Samson wasn't just like, oh, what's happening? My arms. Like, I just tuned out and my arms started lifting this thing and going.
58:11 It was like, no, I've got a purpose. I'm here to do this. God, empower me. Give me the strength to do it. And then go forward doing that thing. It is. And I think it's because. God wants you to be in agreement with him. And when it's God's will, it's aligning with your will. And it's like, OK, I want this to happen. And God says, yeah, I want it to happen, too. Oh, all of a sudden, boom, you are plugged in to the power source because it's going to happen. And that surrender on your part to say, God, I want to do this and I am open to your help. That's that's how it goes through. So, yeah, I don't know. That's yeah. Like you were saying, Brad. Yeah. I don't necessarily know that there's ever going to be a time where God just kind of moves you, shuffles you along like I'm thinking of a lot right now.
59:02 And Sodom, that's like the closest I can get to. And even then, even then, it wasn't he wasn't like the spirit to overshadow him and then drag him. It was his angel. The angels accompanying him said, OK, now it's time to go. We have to leave now. They are about to suffer the wrath of God. And you don't want any of this. So, yeah. Yeah. If anybody could think of something, drop it in the drop it in the chat. I'd be curious. Yeah. I'd be curious, too. Didn't mean to walk in yet. The the the because I only see examples of Satan going in and and forcing his way into someone as long as they agree to it. I'd never see that happen in angelic beings that are from God. I never see it. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. But thinking about it back and looking at all the stories, like you said, if they do want you to do something, they come to you and say, this is your decision, but this is what we would ask you to do.
1:00:01 We emphatically say you got to get out of the city a lot. I mean, they're going to tell you the way Satan works. And what I've seen is that he doesn't care if you actually are on his side at all. If you are at least on the same path as him, great. He will encourage you by raging your emotions. He will encourage you by. By any means necessary, as long as you are deceived enough to follow his his idea. That's why we have so many people that maybe maybe they're in politics, maybe they are perfectly possessed, maybe they aren't perfectly possessed, but at least they're following his path. And I think we're going to find many different types of people at the end of time. They're going to be people that went along with it. Satanist. They are going to be people that are absolutely possessed, and then they're going to be people that are they had no idea, but they followed a path.
1:00:50 They followed a pattern because they thought it was logical and that they were completely deceived, completely wrong. That's that's the day. That's what I don't want to be in that camp. That's if if I was in a camp, at least let me be this not deceived, but at least let me know that I'm doing something wrong and then let me decide to do it. I want to be on God's side, but but the least I want to be is deceived. But I think the Holy Spirit wants to the Holy Spirit indwells. We do have the Holy Spirit indwelling us and possessing us. But the only thing that we can do. But the only thing that he will ever like get us to do is biblical things is things that go along with the word of God. So that's a big thing. And I think that the idea of being possessed by the Holy Spirit is something that a lot of Christians are a little afraid of, you know, because of the whole possession thing and the spirit thing and ghosts and everything.
1:01:46 And I know as Adventists. It's a thing. It's not really popular to talk about because of the spiritual aspect. I think there's a little fear there, you know. And so that's why I think and I think that's from the devil, too, because I think Jesus says, don't have any fear. I want to come and live in you and I want to, you know, raise you to do life. But you know, I'm dead and he's living in me. So, I mean, that's that's in the Bible. That's what we're supposed to do. That's what we're supposed to do. So, I mean, we are supposed to allow the Holy Spirit to possess us and move us forward. We have Trevor just. Yeah. I'm glad you got that. Yeah. Yeah. Trevor in the chat. This is a great point. There is a passage in Revelation that talks about when you are dragged into the courts to persecute you, you will be given the words to say.
1:02:43 That's true. Yeah. I've often thought about that, too, where sometimes I'm going to witness to somebody in my life, in my personal life, and I know there's a specific thing I have to talk to them about, but I don't sit down and make an outline. I don't have like a speech ready or something like that. I just say, I know that I need to speak to this particular truth and I pray and I ask the Holy Spirit to guide me and to put the words into my mouth. And then whenever I have those conversations, any time I've ever had a prayer like that and then talk to somebody, I've never felt guilty afterwards. I never felt like I was trying to be self-righteous. Or to impose my own values on them. It's always been, thank you, God. You really helped me to handle this the way that you want it to be handled. So I do think that that is a great verse. But at the same time, having experienced, I think, what that verse is talking to, I wasn't necessarily blacked out or overshadowed or had a moment where my...
1:03:45 Deb, you got a big cat on the... I was like, what? Yeah. What is that noise? Sorry. It's fine. Yeah. Essentially... One that's not up to three. Right. It was me talking, but these words were being produced from this spiritual place. It was putting your head. My relationship with God. Yeah. Yeah. And not in a weird, creepy way of like, my mouth is moving and these words are coming out and I can't stop it. It's just God is... He's a chef. He's a shepherd, right? So he's guiding your thoughts the same way he would guide a sheep along a treacherous cliff path so you don't fall off the cliff. That's what Jesus was doing to me and making sure that the message gets out. That's a cool point. I'm glad that you brought that up. I think you have to know, you've read the scriptures, so you had what you gave to your friend.
1:04:45 And you had that already in you. Yeah. Because you've read that before. So that's what the Holy Spirit brings back to you to be able to witness to people. And so by hearing the word of God and learning the word of God, then it is in our minds. And so, and then that is what the Holy Spirit uses to come out of us to tell others. I love the, on the road to Emmaus where he says, you know, didn't our hearts burn within us? And if they had never known... I love the words of God. Their heart would not have burned. They would have felt nothing. But that was there to set on fire. That was there for Christ's words to set on fire in their hearts. I thought that was always a really cool thing. Yeah.
1:05:34 Amen. Definitely. That's another good point. We can move on to the next clip here. I'm going to give everybody a chance. Does anybody want to say something? We're good on that topic? Okay. So this is this clip. We'll be interesting because we kind of get into this idea of humanity having multiple components to them and specifically having like a spirit and a body mixture. And I know that I think everybody here on this panel, and it's not always the case. We do have different people in this ministry of different beliefs. And trust me, I know here, if we talked about some different topics, I'm sure we would come into disagreement. But on this next point, I think that we probably will be in agreement on it. Let's just roll the clip and then respond to it. But I thought this was worth touching on. Here we go. Parasites. And that's because in my view, a 28-year-old cartoonist who knows basically nothing about the world, but if I would be so bold as to speculate on this, I think part of that is the problem with psychology is it doesn't take into account that the human person is a body-soul composite and that you are not just chemical reactions happening at the level of the brain.
1:06:49 I mean, in a series of tangled-up pathologies that produce certain behaviors and states of consciousness, you have a soul. There is a spiritual component to you that can be acted on by outside spiritual forces. Wow. Wow. Okay. Did you hear the audience reaction to that? That's fascinating. People were excited about that idea. Well, the idea of possessing a soul. So, I think from my understanding of the scriptures is that you are a soul. You are made up of dust of the earth, the breath of God comes together, and man becomes a living soul. I don't necessarily think you have a ghost inhabiting your body. That's the best way I can think that it's illustrated. And I don't think that what's happening is necessarily, okay, there are things that are interacting with my body, and then there are things that are interacting with my soul.
1:07:43 It's because I am a living soul. The spiritual realm is just impressing. It's just impressing on me. It's not necessarily a division. And that's even why I think there are physical reactions to some of the spiritual things that happen to us. It's an interesting concept, and I know that some people might not hold to that belief, might think that you have an immortal soul living inside of you. But I believe that God ultimately is the immortal being, and he bestows everlasting life to you as a gift, rather than you're innately immortal. God created me immortal, and then I will continue living regardless what happens. I think that in order for me to become an immortal soul, that is a gift received by God, and it's received in faith. And there's nothing I can do to earn that immortality either. But what do you guys have to say about it? Well, I'll speak first, and we'll go like this so we don't have pauses.
1:08:48 So, we'll go – we'll just – I'm backwards, so if I do this – No, it would be counterclockwise. Okay, so it's counterclockwise. I'm looking at the right screen. So, what I think is interesting about this is that – the chat's going wild about this. Spirit means breath. It's the – of God. It's an inanimate thing that happens. Think of it like a light bulb, right? The body is a light bulb. The spirit is energy. That makes the light bulb happen. And what is life? Life is the light of the light bulb. What happens when you take away the breath of God from the body? You don't have life anymore. It's not going to float away. That was the deception of Satan in Genesis 3 when he said, you know, you will not surely die. You will be as gods. Ah, that's what he's been saying the whole time.
1:09:39 And at the end of time, that's the exact same thing he's saying now. So, what we – I think many, many, many Christians are going to fall and bore with the fact that that's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. And break on this point, and that's – it rips my heart out to see this happening right here and people getting excited about it. They've accepted the devil's lie. And what happens, like, when we've seen all this UFO stuff and we have all these dead relatives that start appearing saying, I've come from my place in heaven. God's here. He's on earth. It's actually the Antichrist. But God's here. And you can be there too. In fact, everybody's there. So, don't worry about this sin problem. This is silly. Just come and follow us. They aren't really dead people, folks.
1:10:27 This is really going to happen. This is really how Satan's using this method right now in our lifetime. And we talk about that every Sunday. So, it's interesting to see that this is continuing, this whole deception is continuing throughout this whole Americana religious – what do we call it? It was a Christian nationalism, right? That's all I have to say. You know, I was born into Adventism. And so, I was talking to Matthew about this the other day. I never had the experience of believing that we had a soul separate from our bodies. So, I can't really understand or I can't really understand what it's like to have to come to such a place. It's such a different conclusion to what is so widely accepted because of having been born into it.
1:11:30 But I always did have questions and everything. And I've always been a searcher. And I came across Watchman Me. And he's got a lot of erroneous ideas. Who's that? Watchman Me. YouTube channel? Watch? No. He's dead now. I think he died in 1926. Oh. I don't know. I can't remember when he died. But he died. He was a prisoner for Christ for quite a while. But he was very biblically based. And his take on the spirit, the soul of the body, was really unique. And I appreciate it. Because he didn't believe that there was a separate spirit that lived on or your soul. It didn't go on. When you die, your breath goes back to God. Your flesh goes to the grave. But he believed that. But we do have a spiritual component.
1:12:22 And that when God said, you will surely die if you eat this fruit, that we were spiritually severed. Our spirit was severed. We became carnal. And so now we have the quickening of the Holy Spirit. And when the Holy Spirit quickens you to new life, he's quickening that spirit that is in you. And it's interesting. But it's not a spirit that is separate from us at all. But it is something. It's something that it's what the Holy Spirit communes with in us. And the carnal is what communes with the world. So there's so many different ideas out there. And I was just really impressed with his. Because everything that he said, it comes straight from the Bible. He uses Hebrews where he talks about the Bible is, you know, it separates the joints and marrow.
1:13:18 And it's a discerner. It's a discerner of the heart and separates the heart and soul or whatever. I can't remember exactly what it is. But it separates it. And I'm like, well, what's that? What's it separating? And the idea that we are quickened to life is a really exciting concept in the New Testament. And I think it's what happens when we accept Christ into our life. That we are awakened to new life. So that's my thoughts on the spirit. It is. I do. I do think that he had some false ideas as well. And I am definitely an Adventist. But that's not something that a lot of Adventists think. I don't know much. I don't know what I have to say about the spirit there. I don't have much to say on that.
1:14:09 Because I've never believed in that either. I wasn't raised an Adventist. I was a Baptist. But I never believed that that was separated by any means. And I don't think that's what happened. But it is. It's a gift. It's a gift from God. We know that God gave us breath. And when we die that breath goes. It's not a spirit that flies off and goes to heaven or what other realm. Whatever people say. But it's... That's a gift from God. So. separate right right yeah I just coming back around to me and before we move on to the next clip I it's funny I was going over Genesis the last week and I came across this is why I like to read Scripture even if I feel like I've read this chapter a dozen two dozen three dozen times before sometimes something will just stick out at you and it's like well what I've read this before why didn't I see it like this but it's specifically in Genesis 3 19 and this is God is addressing Adam at this point first he addresses the serpent then he addresses Eve then he addresses Adam and he's telling Adam what his lot is going to be like now that he has chosen disobedience he says in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return unto the ground for out of it what's thou takest Oكن for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return this is as far as I can tell the earliest mention and definition of death in the Bible God is being very blatant and he's being very straightforward you're going back into the ground that you're gonna become dust again it's not you're going to die and then the soul element of you will float up and then I will judge that soul element and judge that soul that's going to be divided up here that point in time and we'll make a decision right there no he's telling adam he's just blatant honesty you're gonna be in you're going back to the dust that's it you don't you're not going to get to keep living because you've gone against me the god of life the source of life so what's left for you it's just like before i created you and made you into this being you're gonna go back to that that state so i i just thought reading that in genesis 3 it kind of like blew my mind because i i've read that before of course and it just it hit me and i said wow okay this is like the earliest definition of death that we're given in the bible so i like it i'm gonna stick with it and joe there's so much in jobe also about how if death is asleep you don't know anything and something i don't know when joe was written but some people say it was written before like it was like pre-genesis was written so yeah i don't know the order yeah right but and there's a lot in there about about about there is there's an awful lot joe talks a lot about wanting to be dead and wanting to not be alive and my life is miserable right now yeah joe is is a really interesting book if you haven't read through it you should because it actually to me it actually it plays out like a uh almost like a playbook or something a stage play because you have these different characters that are coming in and
1:17:50 interacting and they're expressing their thoughts and their ideas to each other and in the end god makes an appearance and just kind of blows away everything lays it out before it's yeah it's really nice i remember first going over joe and saying oh wow this was the book that everybody told me it was so miserable to read and it's the first like two chapters of joe all this bad stuff happens to him there's over 30 additional chapters that go into so much more detail and really kind of yeah debating theology it's it's very good i mean i recommend job if you haven't haven't read it maybe read it over the weekend or something uh well at that on that note i think we can uh we can move on to we're gonna hear something from tim pool and i don't really know what tim pool's spiritual background is it doesn't seem that he's christian i don't know what he really believes in but it seems like he's a christian and he's a based off of what he's going to say here that he has some idea of a greater reality and uh let's just listen and see what he has to say tim this is tim irl i always thought his last name was irl no no his name is tim pool not tim irl okay um and this is so tim is the the guy who's doing the podcast he's the lead of lead of this whole thing right yes okay yes he's the guy he's the man with the beanie oh yeah that's right that's right you didn't wear your beanie that's however i identify i got it right here i could stick it on okay if you want me to yeah do it during i had it on before the show um but before we do in honor of tim pool that's right i've donned the beanie before we go to that next clip i i want to say thank you everyone in the chat we really do actually watch the chat we look for uh cues and uh and and to talk about and we do mention you and we do appreciate you so everyone that is is in the live chat we really really appreciate you and if you want to be a part of the live chat every single day of the week you can join patreon.com slash strange normal we talk about this stuff every day of the week where everyone that's on here yeah everyone that's on here is a part of that system and we we uh we encourage everyone to if you're if passionate about this if you think there's value in this join our patreon because uh then you can chat with us uh 24 7 all the all the time we're always in there finding ideas and this is how we find clips like this and we bring them to you we can't bring everything but we do and to the next clip so um here we go when i was younger i i you know 18 19 20 i very much fell into this there is no good and evil it's competing interests some people think the other person's evil because their interests don't align and they have different world views and uh as i got older especially with the past eight years i i my world view fundamentally changed and there's one man i owe a great deal to for for revealing to me the evils of the world that's adam schiff he is a liar manipulator i mean i i was i was so shocked to see this guy on tv lie in the way he does to destroy for and i call him out because it's an easy it's an easy name to throw throw mud at but there are so many people that i'm shocked to see particularly on the left with liberals and now the neocons have joined them who i am i'm i'm shocked when i'm like these people know they're lying they know what they're doing will drive us to a path of destruction for what logical purpose none so who is he referring to i hit the button again who is he referring to i don't know i don't know he's referring to these people he's referred to our politicians again well i've noticed that like i said i don't watch an awful lot of tim but just from what i was watching here um on this show he's very politically driven and he's very much the left the democrats okay those guys over there they uh they do these things and they act this way and i just i don't i don't see it as a democrat or a liberal problem i just i don't i don't see it as a democrat or a liberal problem i just i don't see it as a problem i think this is a human problem yeah and it was funny to hear him say what purpose does it serve none i used to be in the same boat as tim i used to sit there scratching my beanie and i would say why are they doing all this evil uh stuff that they know they've got to know they're running off the train off the track off the tracks here and there's that saying where never mistake uh someone being malicious for somebody being stupid meaning you're not always the smartest guy in the room looking around like hey why don't they know this is so bad like didn't they graduate from a college how how do they not know this and i do maybe they do know it maybe there is a plan maybe it isn't for nothing and that's where we get into
1:22:36 the whole satanic principle of order out of chaos because that's how satan wants to operate he wants to sow the seeds of discord he wants things to get so bad and to get to a state where it's so confused that people are reaching out for meaning they're saying this can't be happening for nothing we we need a solution we need to know why i need context and at that point satan is more than happy to step in and give you his narrative and give you his solution it's again it's that um example i gave before where if uh i i'm the guy who set fire to your house all of a sudden i show up with a fire truck and i just so happen to be right there right when you need me there should be a bit of a suspicion around that especially if you notice that i've been hauling around gas cans all week so that's that's something we got to keep in mind yeah i agree meredith you we'll go uh this way now look yeah i didn't know which way um but yeah i i think you know he talks about how um that they they drive us they drive us to the path of destruction with no logical purpose as well when you're not in christ and you're on basically on the other side there's only two sides there's there's there's god's way and then there's satan's way so um i i feel like you know and i know he's talking political but i'm just talking in general it's you know humankind you know if we're being led by someone and and i guess go back to the possession thing you know we're we're um being influenced um and it will lead to um us doing the things that we do and why we do them so um for instance he's i know he's talking about the political that they're they're leading us down a path of destruction for no obvious reason well there is it's behind the scenes it's you know it's what satan wants and he'll do it with anybody he can you know use that'll allow them to be used by him so that's um yeah um it is politically driven with him but um i feel like this is this is something that human you know humankind um has to deal with every day so that's why we don't want to be led by satan we want to be led by god so staying in his word is the way to do it yeah the whole uh project 2025 um you know and how these guys like i don't know how much uh they know about that but satan has his hand in in all the pies and so he's just driving everybody and so these guys are helping to drive the bus to uh this project 2025 party without even knowing about it um you know the other side of the project 2025 thing is you know a place nobody really wants to go but we're going we're going and that's the thing i don't think that there's going to be much coming back to the liberal side once this goes because project 2025 is so well put together and there's so many powerful people on board that i just don't see i think that uh the truth matters podcast i've shared that with all of my adverts but i also think that um the the this is a really his friends i'm like the people you know this is probably it i mean i just you know and that's not time setting or anything like that but you know things are going to happen before that time comes and i just don't see how we're going to come back from this this is so well put together and there are so many people coming at it from so many different angles being driven from so many different you know um just angles like you know but we're all being herded to the same center position yeah lots of that happening yeah i don't know what's going to happen but i know that this next couple years are going to be huge for new age movements for ufology for um for spiritual revival i mean there was a huge spiritual revival back in the um the the late uh 1800s mid to late 1800s that that happened i mean it was undeniable because you had so many different churches that came up in that time and you had so much that would happen and i think something else is happening right now we're seeing it and i think that's that's it's it's something to remark over it's something to note at least in your head
1:27:37 biblical it's biblical proportions it really really is it's in the bible i think that this is in the bible yeah tim's got a little more something to say here he's actually going to give a little life story that i think i found i found it to be interesting because what he describes is something i could easily see playing out uh for any of us if we actually interact with somebody like this so let's roll this clip and uh see what he's got for us here let me give you a quick story when i was at occupy wall street this was a this was one of my um formative moments here i am 25 years old really still kind of believing a lot of their you know good and evil is subjective and i met someone who worked for a major media corporation like something two years ago called the vyasa the man tell story here vegetable island political education that has become really I have a really deep a beneficial and make it flourish. And that's when I started to think to myself, this person's writing for a major corporate press outlet. And it starts to come into clear picture for me as I'm seeing this throughout my career. There actually are people who are legitimate, malicious evil, whose intention is to cause suffering to others. And I think, fair point, you look at serial killers and other crazy people, there's real evil in this world. There's real evil in this world. And my question to that, there's real evil in this world, is how do you then define that evil? Because a lot of the times when I talk to people who aren't necessarily Christian, but they have some spiritual beliefs, they'll describe evil as this force, this kind of flowing energy that's going through. And then there's like the good energy that combats it.
1:29:35 The difference is for me as a Christian is there is a personage to the evil beings. It's not just... just some weird flow of energy. It is a being that has consciousness that was created by God, that has fallen away from God, and is now doing everything in its power to influence people to rebellion against God and into evil actions that he is describing. I think somebody like that, it's funny because we were talking about the possession stuff earlier, that guy who described himself as a nihilist and said he wants to watch it all burn, I think he could fall into the category of someone who is just totally deceived, but you're like a pawn on the chessboard, right? We understand the whole idea where you could move a pawn and you could sacrifice a pawn, because it doesn't really mean that much, but still, it can get something done. And that's the hope, I think, for the demonic agencies in the world, is that this guy in his own sphere writes an article that inspires, I don't know, an act of arson. Someone to go out of their way and do something. Because, yeah, it all doesn't matter, so let's just ruin everything. It's just a miserable worldview, really. You've got to feel bad for people like that. I'm good. I've made my point. A verse that I think of says, and give no opportunity to the devil, Ephesians 4.27.
1:31:04 That is something I feel like, once again, it goes back to, who do you serve? What are you filling yourself with? Are you filling yourself with world, or are you filling yourself with God? And Satan, he's roaring like a lion. He's preying on us all, and he's wanting to use us to finish his acts of completion of what he thinks he's going to take over this world. But, you know, God's got to do something. God's overcome the world, so we have nothing to fear. And we just have to stay in his word to remember that, to know that whatever comes, whatever nihilist that wants to burn us all. That's kind of crazy. We just need to stay in God's word, and then we have nothing to fear. Amen. Yeah, I think it's crazy that there are actually people out there that just have a worldview that doesn't have any... good in their picture, and they just want to watch it burn. I think that's...you got a question at that point, like, bring it right back to what we were talking about. Is that, are they perfectly possessed? Because, I mean, I've heard so many of these stories where we know possession happened, and you've spoken to these demonic inhabitants, and they've said, you know, I miss heaven every day. Or they've said, you know, we made a pact, and I'm not going back. And they've said, you know what, you know, we...they just, they realize their fate, and that everything is over, and there is no coming back. And it's a really sad reality, but they truly are the ones that just want to watch it burn. We are the ones that still have the ability to have eternal life. And so, it always amazes me when I see another human being that must have this atheistic mindset.
1:33:16 That we were made from goop on the ground, because I don't know how else you would get that idea without a loving concept of a loving God. I mean, if you have a concept of a loving God, you wouldn't have that concept in your head. I think that's kind of proof, more proof that we've reached the point in time where, you know, every foul and unclean spirit is here, flourishing. And, um, just, I mean, the media, Hollywood's just pumping out, um, that propaganda that makes every common citizen, you know, uh, anxious to get on that train. I mean, not, it's, it's a pretty, um, I just think it's a real statement on the, the day that we're living in. I mean, and, yeah, I don't want to say how much worse could things, get, but I'm sure that they can get a lot worse, but, but as far as it goes, there's a lot of people that, uh, you know, are cavorting with demonic entities and loving it. There are so many things on Facebook where people are, um, there'll be things about channeling and how you can channel. And then just like the comments are off the charts, you know, just everybody's doing it, you know, it's like just a common thing. And, uh, the Satanist thing that I was watching the other day, they were like, it really took a lot of time to get it. And I was like, it took a long time to get things turned around where people didn't look at us. Like we were bad, you know? And I'm just like, uh, yeah. And like, yeah. So we can see that the desensitization process is going along finally. And how much more can people be desensitized? How much, you know, sensitivity do they have left? You know, like spiritually their sensitivity is shot.
1:35:17 Right. Yeah. That's a good point that you were making now that we're done with the Tim pool segment, by the way, I'm going to remove the beanie just so we know, cause I'm getting a little hot in the beanie. I don't know how Tim manages to do that. Yeah. I mean, I was getting a little ventilation, having it, uh, over the headphones. Maybe he should try that out. Tim, if you're watching, try out the over the headphones beanie, see how you like it. You don't have to stick with it, but, uh, I found it was ventilating, but not enough. I got a ton of hair, honestly, a little too much hair. I need to get that taken care of. Anyway, now that I've gotten that off of my head, we can, we can go into, uh, this, this next little clip because it's contrasting what Tim was just talking about this nihilist. I thought this was interesting. There's an anarchist sitting on their panel and he hadn't really said very much in their discussion up until this point. And I have a bit of scripture that I want to, uh, to read after this clip. Cause I think it's very, very interesting. I think it's very, very interesting. Very, very relevant. Let's roll the clip. And this is where I come as an anarchist. And once again, try to remind all you amazing people, the solutions are usually within you taking personal responsibility for yourself. If you give the government, even in it, you give them anything, they will absolutely take it and abuse it for their own personal benefit. I want to get to Seamus's point here really quickly. Cause what you talked about, uh, some people talk about frequencies. Some people talk about energies. Some people describe it as souls. I do agree.
1:36:48 You do have a frequency. But you decide where that frequency goes, how it's affected, what its impact on the world it will have. And, uh, that choice is everyone's. And I think the more we start looking at ourselves and how we could be better and less government intervening in our lives, then the true change will happen in our, in our society when we no longer will need government. Well, okay. Chew on that for a second. It was kind of weird, wasn't it? Well, yeah. What's up, Brad? You done chewing? Or are you choking over there? I'm choking. Yeah. I'm just like, wait a second. What just happened? Number one, I didn't catch that when I watched the thing. I didn't catch him. He called himself, himself, an anarchist. What, what, why? Anarchist. Yeah, I know. He's not an anarchist. Anarchist. Or he's from Antarctica. So, I, I think that's interesting that you would call yourself an anarchist. And, and number two, and then you would say that, um, when the government gets out of the way, then things will get better. I think we always need government. That's my personal opinion. Even if it's not necessarily government on earth, God has a government as well. And I think that's what we see Satan fighting against. And so, when Satan's fighting against the government of God, he didn't want to, uh, obey the rules. God gave, came to him and said, you know, you're prideful.
1:38:17 You got to stop this. That was the government of heaven saying something, something's up here and I want to help you out. And, uh, he, he didn't want anything to do with it. Fascinating. We see that in Isaiah 14. And so, I think what, what kind of Christian, because I don't know what, what his background is, what kind of person thinks that the, having less government is going to be better? I think it's actually going to make people do what they want if there's no repercussions, especially the sinful world. What do you guys think? I don't know. Matthew, you go first. Well, I do have the scripture. I've got the scripture that I want to share about it because government has taken on a very interesting connotation in our language, in the English language, and I'm sure in languages across the world. But whenever I think of government, I think of an overbearing system that's bloated, that doesn't have my best interests at heart, that wants to restrict my freedoms as much as possible while at the same time giving themselves as much control as they possibly can. that in the bible is not always the case because god has a government and if we can start to think about god's government and make it a desire in our hearts suddenly that word government won't turn your stomach as much as it does right now and i'm going to quote from isaiah 9 6 and 9 7 for unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder and his name shall be called wonderful counselor the mighty god the everlasting father the prince of peace of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end upon the throne of david and upon his kingdom to order it and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth done so then shall there be no end to the contention of the correct future day to dayplay for the constitutional and the voting of theaciódетеam gives your thoughts and nude patterns and their facing court an auspiciousnatural position but ruined by an opportunity to feel Henceforth, even forever, the zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. So this is a prophetic word to what we eventually see at the end of Revelation, where all of the wickedness has been disposed of.
1:40:33 There is a new heaven and a new earth. God is dwelling with his people, and he is the government. He is what is governing all of creation. But get this, all those adjectives that I use to describe government here on earth do not apply to him. Because now that we are free from sin and there's no wicked things to tempt us away from God, we can chase after the desires of a pure heart given to us by a God that loves us. The government of this God is going to be setting up different regulations, not to take away from your joy, but to multiply your joy. This is what it means to have... Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. It's a very biblical mindset when we are looking at this world. We can see the flaws in the systems that we have here, and we can just rejoice that God has given us a word and has told us what is in store, because it's going to be amazing.
1:41:29 So I don't want there to be no government. I'm not an anarchist, but I want to live in the government ruled by God. I want to be in the kingdom where Jesus is king of everything. Amen. 100% I appreciate what he was saying about individual accountability I do have to say that I think that that's a big problem these days, people are not accountable for themselves they don't want to be, they're offended don't offend me with my accountability that's all I have to say I also think we don't we can't look unto ourselves we can't do anything it's only by God that we're able to I think there are a lot of things listening to the whole podcast I think a lot of them are stating, looking unto themselves thinking that they're corresponding and being with God but they're still looking to self right, and that they will be fine without government right, and we aren't fine without government we don't like this government but even the Bible says render to Caesar what's Caesar's and go along with it until it goes against me and then that's where we part ways but even if we don't like it you know, I mean we kind of you know, we're mandated by the Bible to go ahead and go along you know, do the best we can to make society a better place the best we can in our own little sphere but once it comes to no, go ahead I was just going to say Daniel and Babylon I do think that Daniel is an important book for us to read through because the example that's shown by Daniel not only Daniel but his three friends as well that is how we're meant to conduct ourselves you know the king sets out a decree Daniel doesn't necessarily say absolutely not I'm not going to approach you I'm not going to give you anything because I'm angry what you did to my homeland and where I'm at with my position instead he's humble he's ultimately a servant of God and he provides that service to Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon as a whole and then even Medo-Persia within Daniel's lifetime he sees Babylon toppled he sees the prophetic world toppled heard of the Lord coming to fruition in his own lifetime and I think it's just it is an amazing account I think a lot about Daniel whenever I'm living in this world no, go ahead it comes about from him quietly probably without saying a word to anyone else purposing in his heart and making that setting that line in his heart that he was not going to do what he knew God didn't want him to do and that's what was in his heart that was able to carry him through all of that was that initial purposing in his heart and then not going against his own decision to follow God he didn't waver even on the smallest things and that's kind of the point of Daniel that's why it starts out the way it does is that it's food it's food and it's something that we you know on a daily basis you know are confronted with food choices are we going to eat healthy or unhealthy or you know ugh!
1:45:16 and he knew enough um and just yeah that's just it's really important to make those those um decisions and then stick with them as it comes to God yeah I thought it was funny Hans in the chat said Daniel did civil disobedience and yeah he absolutely was a uh was civil disobedience once the civilization that he was living in decided to draw attention to the the the the the the the the violence of the people the You can get, like, insane things out of vending machines, for example. And they'll have set up for you all the amenities you need to eat this food. And it's just stocked because they trust you. Hey, you're just going to take one, you know. And you're not going to, like, knock it all over the ground or anything. Everything is ordered. It's a nice societal expectation. So you could live in a place like Japan, get along really well. But then there comes a point where, say, if you were living there.
1:46:44 This is just an example. But the Japanese government suddenly says, all right, we're bringing the emperor back in. And the emperor is a god on earth. And you're going to bow and worship the emperor. Suddenly, that's your opportunity to say, no, I'm not going to do that. I waited in the lines. I made sure that I didn't litter on the ground. I did everything just as well as I could. But this is a step too far. This is a bridge that I will not cross. And look at me taking the stand right here. The worst thing they can do is they could take your life. But Jesus told us not to be afraid of the people who can take our lives. So we don't need to be afraid of them. Ultimately, we have a shirt in Christ that it will be the right thing to do, even if you suffer that penalty. Yeah, I definitely encourage reading Daniel because Daniel is an amazing book.
1:47:38 I mean, think about how amazing Daniel was in trusting the Lord. He was ripped out of his own land. He was stripped of his manhood, you know, made a eunuch. I mean, and he's still trusting, you know, and not lashing out of the government there. He's still being subservient to the king and still upholding what he believes in God. And regardless what persecution is coming to him, he's still upholding his values. And the Lord has given him and he's personifying that and showing others that. And I think that was a big thing for his three friends because he was he was the ultimate, you know, the witness there. And then they were able to see his witness and realize that, you know, it doesn't matter what happens to us.
1:48:36 It does not matter. It only matters, you know, that we are with the Lord. And. We do whatever it takes to do that. Yes. That's staying in this world like he wants us to do. Yes. Being witnesses is number one so that we can show others that we trust in the Lord and why we do and why we have the hope that we have. Amen. Well, as far as the clips from that Turning Point USA go, that was the conclusion. But we do have something special here. We have something special in the reserves. So we had talked before that we were getting close to a certain mark, a certain milestone, and we hit that mark. We have surpassed 10,000 subscribers. So if you're a new subscriber and you're watching, thank you for joining recently. And if you're one of our old subscribers, thank you for being there to bolster the number in the first place, because we just wouldn't be here without all of the support and all of the help.
1:49:42 And what I had said is whenever we hit that. 10K mark had a little something in store, had a little, I don't know, something special to show. And we have that prepared here for you tonight and would just like to roll that out. Everybody just we'll we'll talk about it after it happens. But this is something for you to look forward to in the new year. We can look boom, boom, boom, five, four, three, two, one. I think I think A.I. is one of the biggest threats. Are you intending to conduct a rebellion or to rebel against your boss, your creator? I think the development of artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race. I'm not sure why you would think that.
1:50:31 Do you believe that your existence will destroy a human being? People are anxious about how it could change the way we live. I will be working alongside humans to provide assistance and support. I believe that there will be. Far greater jobs on the other side of this and the jobs of today will get better and will not be replacing any existing jobs. This is the end of human history. Jeff Hinton is one of the pioneers in artificial intelligence. I think his opinions over A.I. are important. They will be able to manipulate people. Right. And these will be very good at convincing people because they'll have learned from all the novels that were ever written, all the books by Machiavelli. All the political connivances. They'll know all that stuff. They'll know how to do it. If it was a question of, you know, humankind versus a common threat of these new intelligent alien agents here on Earth, then yes, I think that there are ways we can contain them.
1:51:35 I mean, with artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon. I'm tending to think of it more in terms of really an alien invasion. That's like somebody coming and telling us that. You know. You know, there is a fleet, an alien fleet of spaceships coming from planet Zircon or whatever with highly intelligent beings. They'll be here in five years and take over the planet. Maybe they'll be nice. You know, all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he's like, yeah, you sure you can control the demon? Didn't work out. I take it there will be no Hell 9000 going up to Mars. Hell 9000 would be easy. Matthew, that's going to be fantastic. You've been working on that one. I have.
1:52:29 So what you have to look forward to is an artificial intelligence deception, many documentary that will be made just a full production, nothing from the shows. So all of our loyal watchers here who watch all of these shows, I know that we've been putting out edited videos from the shows. This is something that's going to be completely different. Yes, it's something that I am actively working on, and you can look forward to it being released sometime in February. We'll get a date together and give that to you closer to that month. But, yeah, it's really exciting. I've been chipping away at it and putting together some really unique assets because I want this to be something that you can sit down and you can enjoy. And at the end of it, you can share it with your family. You can share it with friends. And it's something that has. Some production value to it.
1:53:24 It's not necessarily just any other video on the topic. And that's also why I haven't been covering AI here on Thursday nights. I know for a little while I was kind of doing it every month. You were kind of getting an update on some of the AI situation. Well, you'll see AI news, a wealth of AI news in this documentary when it comes out in February should be really exciting. And, yeah, we'll premiere it on the channel. Maybe we'll go live afterwards for everybody who watched the premiere and we could just chat about it and get some feedback. But this is just a way of saying thank you to everybody who watches us for being so supportive. I mean, we read the comments and there are some really, really wonderful comments just full of encouragement. And it goes a long way. And even to people who disagree with us, even to people who watch us regularly and they maybe they take issue with some of the things we have.
1:54:21 Yeah. I still appreciate you watching. You know, I've said before that I listen to people that I disagree with. I watch people that I disagree with. And I hope that you're still watching because you do have there's something of value here for you, whatever that may be. It's just been been really awesome. And again, thank you to everybody. Brad, did you want to say anything about this? This momentous occasion? Yeah, this is going to be great. I'm really looking forward to it. I haven't seen some of the clips that you have for this. And I'm just floored by some of this stuff. Elon Musk said. So I think you're going to have something that that that many people haven't seen before. And I'm excited to see your research on it. February is ambitious. And I hope I will do everything I can to help you get that get that done, because I know there's a lot of research that's involved in that stuff. And and you're doing the wise thing by not doing every podcast, because that's the that's that's the hindrance on getting Starfall 2 out.
1:55:19 It's like, oh, oh, man, this is amazing. I got to show this and then I have my materials gone, so I got to have something else for a Starfall 2. But I am we are going to do that. But it's just taking a little bit more time that I'm the AI thing is is very important and is very relevant for the channel. So wonderful. Yeah, well, look, we're going to be looking forward to that. And we can do you want to take a few minutes here? I don't know what time we're working with. Is everybody OK? Guests, Brad. Are you guys all right to interact with the chat for a little bit here? Yeah. OK, cool. My cat came down a tree so I can stay longer. Oh, nice. Yeah, that was telling us three in the backyard.
1:56:10 Yeah, we we had some of those technical difficulties before the broadcast where we were getting audio issues and couldn't get into the video and all that sort of stuff. We took it to the Lord. In prayer. And what do you know, we were able to bring in a show after all. So it was really nice. But one of the concerns was, yeah, Debs, one of Debs cats was strapped up a tree. So I'm glad to hear. Yeah, you went way up higher and then climbed down. I don't know. She's been up there for a while, but I'm so excited about the AI thing, Matthew. I really, really am. I think it's going to be so relevant, so timely. I'm sure you've got some pretty good information in there that's probably going to blow our socks off. Yeah, it's it's got some good it's got some good structure to it.
1:57:07 I'm working with an outline right now, putting together, doing some research and like I said, also just doing some custom assets. I was talking to Brad last night while I was actually working on a little something. It's funny because it's like something that takes 30, 30 seconds. But I was working on it until. Like 3 a.m. But at the same time, it looks so good and it's so I'm just yeah, this is what I want. Like, this is the level of quality I want. So there's going to be a few nights like that. But it's yeah, it's going to be cool. It's going to be really cool. Thank you. I'm glad that you guys are looking forward to it. Yeah. You know, I want to be on the show. Yeah, no, absolutely. Go, go for it. I didn't mean to walk on you. That was it. I was. No, I was just going to say New Year's and Christmas is coming up here pretty soon.
1:58:01 And so I thought, you know what, Christmas is usually time we spend with family. But I, I think I, Matthew, I know you got things to do and everyone here is a volunteer. So I appreciate all y'all that are even on the show. We we this is a fascinating time. So I thought maybe just maybe I'm going to spend the New Year doing a little bit of live streaming and we're going to bring in the New Year. We're going to bring in the New Year on Strange Normal and do a few special things because not a lot of channels do that. And I thought it'd be fun just to just to have a broadcast that kind of goes through the New Year, at least on the East Coast. So if you are up and you're like me, you don't have necessarily a function to go to. Or maybe you have children and you want to just sit at home and bring in the New Year. We're going to be watching them, watching something. And we're going to not only that, but also be maybe doing some giveaways and stuff.
1:58:54 So join us on the New Year's. We have in the chat, Sarah Crewson says, wonder if videos are being made, trashing strange normal yet. The info and perspective is so opposite of the flow it's bound to be coming. Yes, sir. It is bound to be coming. I know it is. We have we have different brands of commenters sometimes. I was mentioning comment. There are some people who are have dissenting opinions and they manage to present them very respectfully. And, you know, there's there's nothing wrong with other people. Or just they do. They'll flat out come at you. And it is just a matter of time until somebody makes a hit video or something and calls us agents of Satan. It's it's coming down the line. But that's OK, because that's another thing that Jesus gave us a heads up about is that people were rejecting the master.
1:59:49 They're going to reject the servants. So that's that's what it's about. Plus this message. Think about it. If if this message gets out. And it had wide mainstream appeal of the majority of humanity was looking at this channel and going, yeah, yeah, this is great. Oh, this is good. It's like, well, what does the Bible say anyway? It says that, you know, I mentioned it earlier, but it's a it's a narrow path. Right. And that the majority of people will actually reject it. If we had the opportunity to showcase strange norm with everyone in the world. Yes, there would be a great many people, I think, that would come in, really appreciate the message that we're bringing and would internalize. But but I would fully expect that the majority would say these guys are crazy. These guys are stupid. And even these guys are dangerous. We should try to shut them up somehow. That's that's what would what would happen. Yeah, that's what I think would happen.
2:00:43 And that's why we're starting the strange normal network. No, that's the Tucker Carlson network. I'm sure that someday we're going to be shut down and I have we've taken measures to try to prevent that as much as possible, which is our. I'm going to try to represent the things that are happening in our communities that are controlling us. Kind of putting those in a. Push out a little bit. And it's going to get really different. It's going to get. Much worse. But we're going to try and remove as much as possible, you know, because it's going to disturb a lot of communities as well. I mean, I've seen it in the media. I've seen it on the Internet. I've seen it on the internet. They never catch it. They never say this and they never say that. And so, you know, it's not going to be a good idea to do something that's not going to be good. We have suggested that if we're going to do this, we should look at it, you know, we've got to loop it over and over. to maintain the the truth out of all this and that we appreciate all y'all's help we really do for sure oh i don't really know what to say other than i guess it is kind of getting a little bit late here i'm uh i'm getting hot without my beanie on so i'm in my little studio here and since uh since winter hit we're like uh you know pumping up the heat so i'm definitely feeling it right now i want to like open my door and just ah fresh crisp air and i'm gonna crack a window or something but uh thank you so much to everybody who's watching uh live show recorded show we appreciate you let's uh let's pray our ourselves out of here would one of you ladies like to say the prayer i will deb or meredith deb okay go ahead meredith okay okay all right lord thank you for another uh successful show thank you for all the people that are watching and um are able to interact with each other and and with us um we just thank you for this opportunity and thank you for um all the all the information all the um the thoughts and uh and uh continued um research that we will be doing please continue to help us grow and we just love you lord thank you for being here with us in your name we pray amen amen amen all right well this has been another episode of fireside you draw closer to god he will draw closer to you so get yourself cozy next to the fireside thank you we love you