1:51 Welcome, welcome to another Strange Normal. My name is Brad, and we are talking about the stranger things that happen in your normal life that give you the EGBGs. But we're going to talk about it through a biblical example tonight. But before we get into it, I'm going to bring on our guest tonight, which is actually pretty much a regular here. Matthew, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you, Bradley? Good. We've got an interesting thing. This is Thursday night. It's become more of our after show, or we might change that name someday, but it's kind of the more laid-back night, right? Yeah, that's what we're going for. We're going for a more laid-back evening, get a chance to interact with some of the live chat, maybe address any comments or topics that we see fit. It's kind of more of a variety-type thing, and Brad has been working on getting those phone lines open up, so hopefully we can do that, and we'll let you know when to call in.
2:55 It'll be a good time. But, Brad, before we go any further, it was a little tight getting here tonight. I literally had enough time to sit down. Brad says, let me check your levels. All right, we're good to go, and we just pressed play. So we didn't get a chance to pray together as we normally do before the show starts, so I just want to make sure that that's something we don't neglect. Go for it. Would you like to pray, or I can pray? You can pray. I'd like to pray. Yes. Father in heaven, thank you so much for bringing us together to sit down and do this show this evening. Please enlighten our minds. Let us have valuable input, and let Scripture just come to our minds as we address each one of these points. Bless everyone in the chat tonight. Just bring us all together. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Yeah, we normally do that, and I appreciate that because that's a very important thing is he brings things to our minds, and he brings things to our minds, and he brings things to our minds, and he brings things to our minds, as we look into this fascinating issue.
3:54 We do have a show tonight, and we are going to talk a little bit about it, but you're right. This is more of a laid-back night, and while people prepare to call in, which we will be opening the phones tonight, you can watch the phone line appear down here in this rolling banner thing. You will see the number come up. I think it's after this one. I'm not sure, but call the number. It's normal. Normal 1. That's all I remember is the last part of it. There it is. Dial 267. Not right now. 267, normal 1, and you can reach us or my Google voice line, and I'll patch you into the show. But before we get into it, we're going to have a topic that we're all talking about. This isn't just free call and have story time because we got lots to cover tonight.
4:46 But one thing I wanted to talk about, and usually this show, or this after show, just covers one thing. Not like the weekend one that covers a bunch of stuff that's happened throughout the week and all the other stuff that's happening. We're going to talk about Christian Broadcasting Networks. They started talking about UFOs. I thought that was fascinating. And they had someone on there, an anthropologist, a Christian anthropologist named Hugh Ross. Excuse me, astrophysicist. Man, well, it wouldn't have been interesting if he was an anthropologist studying aliens, wouldn't it? He's an astrophysicist and an apologist. It is funny. We were at this Ark encounter. We had a meetup with the channel, and I remember Matthew saying, you don't read the words, do you?
5:36 I said, no, I don't. I just look at the first and last character, and I assume that's the word. Astrophysicist tonight. At least I caught it. Okay, let's jump right into it. Here we go. I was an amateur astronomer before I became an astronaut. I became a professional astronomer. So every university where I served, they said, you have to handle all the UFO reports. And about 99% of what people would report to me as UFOs, I could explain as natural phenomena, a hoax, or secret government military activity. But there's a 1% residual that falls in a different category. And these would be UFO phenomena that observers report violating the laws of physics. On the other hand, they leave evidence indicating that they're real phenomena.
6:29 And that, I think, explains why you have a lot of scientists and skeptics saying this doesn't exist. Because they come from a worldview that doesn't permit the existence of non-physical reality. But as a Christian, as a believer in the inerrancy of the Bible, I do believe in the existence of non-physical reality. Because the Bible tells us God created two different species of intelligent life, one that's constrained by the physics of the universe and one that is not. And we're talking about humans that are indeed constrained by the dimensions and laws of physics of the universe and angels who are not. And these angels live in a different dimensional realm, but God has given them the power to come in temporarily into our realm. So I think that's where that 1% residual falls. And some of the strongest evidence for that is that where you've got multiple observers tracking a UFO going through the atmosphere, which means we can actually calculate its trajectory and velocity.
7:39 And the velocities often run between 5,000 and 25,000 miles per hour. But the observers never record the occurrence of a sonic boom or a heat friction trail behind the UFO. If it was a physical object, you would get a sonic boom. You would get a heat friction trail, just like you do when one of the spaceships go through our atmosphere from the International Space Station. However, there are a couple of thousand cases documented where the UFO not only goes through our atmosphere, it crashes into the Earth. And when you go to the crash site, you see a crater. If there's snow, the snow is melted. The vegetation is consistently damaged. But as you investigate that crater site, there's never any debris. There's no artifacts. If it was a physical craft crashing into the Earth, you'd be able to recover some debris and artifacts.
8:39 But the fact that you see a crater and melted snow and damaged vegetation means that something real caused that. So we're dealing with non-physical reality. Or what the French astrophysicist Jacques Vallée referred to, he says, we're dealing with interdimensional phenomena. I mean, he's not a believer, but that was his conclusion. We're dealing with a phenomena that's operating in dimensions different than those of the universe. So I'm going to pause it right there for a second. And I introduced this guy. Again, he's a Christian astrophysicist. And he's trying to explain to us that there, are things that happened. He has been doing reports on these things as he has had to, I guess, where he worked.
9:28 But he said, oh, there's about 1% of them that he can't explain. And what he's seen hasn't had any physicality to it. Neither have we so far, to be honest. What do you think about that, Matthew? It's refreshing to hear a man of faith weighing in on these matters. To be honest, Brad, I feel like more often than not, we have to have some interesting characters. I'll just put it that way. Some who are more steeped in occult knowledge than others, but it's nice to see someone who has faith stepping in and weighing in on this issue. There are different accounts of the UFOs flying around, smashing into things and then, or appearing to have smashed into things and not being there. One of the things that I've seen in reports is that certain mountain sites where people live that are considered to be a sacred site maybe to Native Americans, they will see UFOs flying in and out.
10:31 That's what they describe it as, of the mountain. And some of those people have surmised, well, there must be some type of interdimensional portal there. I don't necessarily know if there's a portal there. Maybe it's just a hotspot for them. It's something that they like. It's somewhere that they gather. These are, in some sense, corporeal. Corporeal beings. Yes, this is a physical, this is a spiritual phenomenon, but there are persons behind it. And that's important for us to grasp. I also appreciate him bringing up Jacques Vallée. I have to look into Jacques Vallée a little more. And maybe that could be something that in the live chat, if you have information about Jacques Vallée, please drop that for me because he gets mentioned a lot. And oftentimes he's cited as the guy who is secular, but understands it's spiritual phenomena. And that to me, it's just that those two ideas clash.
11:23 It doesn't make sense that there's a guy who says, yeah, these are pretty much demons, but I don't have any religious preferences. You brush up against some demonic entities, I think you're going to become religious real quick, one way or another. You're going to start worshiping them or you're going to start worshipping that one true God because there is something very bizarre happening there. Yeah. And I would like to know a Little Moreش a little more. little more about Jacques Vallée's background. Just him bringing him up made me think, you know, maybe we should have a bit more of a dive into Jacques Vallée and see what he believes spiritually. I mean, he has to believe something. So I want to hold it just a second right now. I have a couple of dogs coming into the house. I think someone just came home through my door. So if it gets loud in here, my apologies. Just a little background of that, hey, we got to live in a house and do this too. So if you hear dogs barking, that's what's going on. Dogs barking, children crying. It's all par for the course here. I also want to say there's, we have a few people watching tonight. Go ahead and click on the like button. It really does help bring in more people to the live show. So if you hit that like button, it helps us quite a bit. We have 26 right now. Hit that button once, hit the like, hit the dislike button. Both work the same way. They both help interactions with this channel. So we're already up to 30.
12:49 Keep going, keep going. We got more content coming up and I want to just jump, continue, jump right into it because he says some more stuff about this. And although I don't have my outline in front of me, I think you'll be pretty surprised at his next, what he says next. Here we go. Let's hear it. Well, back in the 1960s, the U.S. government commissioned a physicist, Alan Hynek, to investigate the UFO phenomena. And he was the one that came up with this term, close encounters of the first kind, second kind, and third kind. And what you notice in these, a close encounter of the first kind is where the human contactee is within 500 feet of the UFO phenomena. And when you're talking about the second kind, this is where they actually begin to experience some kind of encounter. And so, you know, it's a very, very, very, very, very, physical harm. There have even been instances where people have been killed or their animals have been killed. And then there's instances where people claim to have direct communication with UFO beings. But what's interesting about these close encounters, it's never beneficial. It's always deleterious. The best you're going to come away from with one of these encounters is recurring terrifying nightmares. Worst case scenario, you get killed. So they're harmful. But there's also evidence that there's deception involved in these encounters. Because when people claim to have had conversation with these UFO beings, they will claim, well, in fact, if you go back 100 years ago, they were saying they were from the backside of the moon. But when the public became educated enough to realize that's not credible, they changed their story and said, well, we're from Venus. And people realize, oh, how could we be on the surface of Venus? They said they were from Mars. Well, now they're claiming to be from another planetary system. So the fact that they keep changing their story. And then you've got those cases where the human contactee goes into a trance, and then they begin to type out what the UFO being wants them to communicate. I mean, probably the most dramatic example would be a big book, the Orontes.
15:12 It's kind of the Bible for all these UFO cults. And some editions run 4,000 pages. The entire book was communicated through automatic writing. But what's interesting about the Orontes book, about a third of its content denies the deity of Jesus Christ. So there I think you can see the deceptive motivation behind this UFO phenomena. Because what you notice in these close encounters, it's exclusively about the UFO. And it's not just about the UFO. It's about the experience by people who have significant involvement in the occult. And when you remove that occult factor, that's the end of the UFO encounters. Increase the degree of occult, you increase the frequency of these UFO encounters. I'm going to pause it right there. He made a couple good points there. I probably should have paused it earlier. Right. I was thinking. I was, I mean, he's just, he just, he just, just pushing. All this information as fast as he can in here, because the church doesn't talk about this enough. And enough because we know this is going to become a bigger issue. And so this is a good thing. He's chatting about this, but he's got a lot of information here. And I forgot what I was going to talk about. Do you have anything to say about it, Matthew? He mentioned the close encounter scale. And originally Hynek did devise that scale, and it went up to three, CE3. But now we have some extensions. That are on, on the scale. And once again, bringing up Jacques Follet, he introduced CE4, which would be when a human being is abducted by a UFO or its occupants. And then we also have CE5 now, which if you're a fan of the broadcasts, and I think, you know, Dr. Stephen M. Greer, who has come up with CE5, which is where you, you as a human being, can initiate contact with the extraterrestrial. And what was cool about what that, yeah, it's communicate, what did I say? Oh, initiate contact. Yeah, we're just making, making.
17:23 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Making sure I didn't say something weird. Sorry. What that guy also brought up was the occult activities and how when the occult activities lessen, then the, maybe the veracity of the contact lessens, or even the frequency of the contact lessens. And so, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, but when you start to increase occult activities, you start to see an increase in it. And that is exactly what the CE5 program does for people. It focuses on putting you in a meditative state, a suggestive state that has been used by religious systems for thousands of years to have spiritual experiences. And people find great success, depending on how you measure success, with getting into contact with these, these beings through that. And you don't mean religious, Christian, Christian systems, but other spiritual systems. Spiritual, yes. Yeah. Namely, Eastern mysticism that you would find in India, Tibet. There was a big movement in the 60s where people became fascinated with mysticism from the East. And the reason was because they weren't satisfied with Christianity anymore. It wasn't, it went against the way they wanted. They wanted to live. They wanted to live under free love and they wanted to do the drugs and they wanted to, to live, to do as they do as thou wilt. That, that became the saying of the age. And they were able to find that sense of spiritual freedom in the Eastern mysticism. And it's just evolved over time, over the decades. And now I would say the closest thing to what the hippies were using spiritually, as far as their exercises go, can be found in the new age movement. It can be found in people who want to contact entities of any kind, whether they be interdimensional, extraterrestrial, those are the practices that are now put into place.
19:22 Absolutely. Yeah. I don't want to add one. There's actually one more CE, close encounter division, if you will. That's CE6. Joe Jordan told me CE6 is when they actually see something that has died due to one or close, closely connected to one of these encounters. Whether it's a person who's dead or someone who's dead, it's a person who's dead. I'm not sure if it goes into animals or not, but I know CE6 is the one you don't want to experience. You don't want to experience any of them, but that's one you definitely don't want to experience. Yes. And that CE6 type of encounter is the one that we've even seen Tucker Carlson come out and say that people have died from it. And we see Ross Colhart as well. So there is going to be, I imagine at some point, the names, of people who have been killed whether they be pilots military personnel civilians that type of a thing will be put out and there will be a proper observing of maybe like a memorial service for all these people one day but i think it will be blamed on an on the bad aliens are the ones that did it right even though they're playing good cop bad cop and they're really all the same they can say these poor people they're they're victims of this intergalactic war that has been raging for millennia right yeah that's what's gonna happen but um you know wendy i want to bring wendy up wendy in the chat here she brought up a good point she says that's she says uh that they're they're always changing their location where they come from huh right now it seems as if they're not saying this but it seems as if they're all coming from the ocean and so i think that's that's that's interesting that they say the dark side of the moon they say venus they say mars they but they're here they're they're on earth this is where they've they've uh decided that the rebellion is going to hail from and so this is uh the deception is that they are trying to deceive us from uh from here from being hidden however that's occurring we don't know we see through a glass darkly right now but um there's there's still more clips so unless you have a comment on that i'm going to jump into the next one just to add on to that i i see things about them being in the ocean yes and every documentary you see on the ocean nature documentary they say oh we've only explored this small percentage of the ocean the other place that i i see picking up ramping up in more intensity is antarctica because that is there are some really weird restrictions internationally on who's allowed to conduct research in antarctica or to be there and i could see some weird ice base type of a thing just as a supplemental to what you're saying in the chat all theory but um i think uh i think we're going to see some pretty wild stuff as things move on uh and he's going to say some pretty wild stuff here in a second that i i think that we can jump off of and kind of prove stuff from the bible so check this out you notice there's a much higher incidence of these close encounters in nations where there's a high incidence of all cold involvement examples would be france uh equatorial brazil and i got to see this firsthand when i went to the soviet union when the communists were in control and what i noted back then is that the soviet union was sponsoring occult physics research at their major universities and so a lot of the physicists i was engaging at that time were deeply involved in the occult many of them were demon possessed and many of them were having these close encounters with ufos now when you go back to russia the incidence of that is dramatic the incidence of occult involvement has dramatically dropped because the incidence of occult involvement has dramatically dropped in states where there's a higher involvement in the occult
23:20 you see a higher incidence of these close encounters with ufos good examples of that would be alaska and hawaii and in those states in the union where there's a very low incidence of all called involvement likewise you see a much lower incidence of people claiming to have these close encounters but my passion is for the individual that's having these encounters close the doors and that will deliver you from these horrifying uh experiences um and you know also be careful about who you uh are in contact with you know like if your father is involved uh that could be the demon can work through that and keep in mind these fallen angels can take whatever form they choose they can appear as your dead grandfather they can appear as a flying saucer they can appear as a leprechaun and so that's why it tells us in first john test the spirits don't believe every supernatural being that approaches you put them to the test i'm going to pause it there that was an invaluable point oh my goodness i'm so glad he said that um and i he got that out to to the rest of the world there that they absolutely can appear as your dead relatives he said that specifically it's not just hey they can appear and they're they're shapeshifters i hate that word i think that people should should uh be pushing out hey if your dead relative appears to you at night in the daytime and they're physical you can hear their heartbeat and you think it's absolutely them it's not according to the bible it's not there's so many there's so many things i could say about that but um i think uh job 14 12 says man lies down and does not rise tell the heavens are no more and continues on and says that um he doesn't even return to his house uh job 17 13 if i wait the grave is my house uh and there's another one in job i'm missing here there it is uh no that's not it you have anything to say about that while i find that matthews yeah i no i'm here i i was just looking over some stuff and thinking about it it's yeah i agree there's a there's a lot of things that indicate that when you when you die you're dead so you're not necessarily able to visit anybody it's nice that he brought that up i'd like to know what his background is what doctrines he believes in because it's encouraging even if he's someone who believes in the doctrine of the immortal soul which is something that i disagree with i think that it appears in all pagan religions and i believe that bible-based christianity is radically different from pagan ideology and pagan religion so the immortal soul i don't find that in the pages of the bible but even if this guy believes in the doctrine of the immortal soul he's saying that the demons will appear as deceased loved ones that gives me some hope because it says that at least it's on the radar it's something that people are aware of to look out for it's not going to be something where it's like if you tell someone that kennedy visiting no no no this is my dead loved one how dare you say that it's something that they'll at least say you know what you could be right even even if i believe that my dead loved one is still alive in some capacity in heaven or wherever this is not them and at least there you can withstand the deception uh i think another good point that i mean this guy is full of good points really but another good point he made was that if you have weird occult connections in your family that that could possibly be an issue now i don't think that necessarily because your grandfather or your great-grandfather was involved in that type of a thing that you're doomed uh not at all i think if you have a solid relationship with god then that all of that will be wiped away however they're going to have more of a i don't know a foot in the door necessarily to get in and to to do some some bad things to you it's all we've discussed it in a previous program i think it was last sunday we were talking about permissions and how it's a permission-based thing where their ability to mess with us and to do bad things to us directly that is tied into there's something that gives them almost like a legal
28:07 access and in the court of heaven they get to say they would get to stand up and say hey i can do it because so and so has this uh little idol in their home yeah they might not know that it's an idol of a deity but they put it in their home and they put it on a mantle and it's significant to them in some place so i get x amount of access and i think that's how the system has been set up because even even god jesus says that he's standing at the door and knocking and if you if you allow him to enter then he'll come in and sup with you but that's it he's saying if you let me in if you give me the permission for that i can come in this is going to be a good thing he's saying if you let me in if you give me the permission for that i can come in this is going to be a good thing something that i will do and something that i want to do 100 100 i was just i was oh i just wanted to say i was looking at the uh ten commandments the other day and this is just something i wanted to uh include with that whole if your grandfather or something this is in the second commandment talking about idolatry thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them for i the lord thy god am a jealous god visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me so right there you can even see there's a generational cursing kind of taking place that god says yeah when you do something and you and you bow down to these idols and you worship false gods you're tainting your family line essentially it's a third and the fourth generation so yeah and it's not a lot of business a lot of things are attributed to god in the bible but not necessarily god himself or is doing it he's giving it uh like when you say a curse and he's giving it a curse and he's giving it a curse and usually what's happening is god's saying yeah if you do this this is going to happen this is a ramification of that not because i'm saying striking you down with a bolt of lightning right because that's just consequences yes yeah and there are consequences for for the action i i want to i want to uh call out adrian in the chat you guys if you want to follow someone that's doing something that's finding all the information on facebook follow this guy adrian he's in the chat right now uh and uh i don't know if he wants me to point out his whole name so i'm not going to say it but um he if i don't have a show boy i just go to his facebook channel he's got everything i've been i'm calling him out right now because i i uh i've been trying to get him to get into this discord so that we can uh uh benefit from everything he's posting and it's phenomenal so he's he's on the ball and uh uh if if anything he could have his own youtube channel doing this um i uh he pointed out he commented just now that he's on the ball and he's on the ball and he's on the ball and he's on the ball and he's on the ball and he's on the ball and he's on the ball and he says uh a casd and that he has knowledge of it as well right right you have to have knowledge of it to make that type of a connection right right i want to point out too we have open phones tonight so be sure to watch for the phone number down in this area down here it's going to come up you'll see it run across the banner and so you can call in and talk about what we're talking about tonight we're going to reveal that topic in a second but we want to make sure that we stay on topic not just have open phones for random stories this uh although this may seem like art bell it's not although i love love that show when i was a kid um you know something else i thought they pointed out was was interesting in there that um was that uh i wished he would have said that you can call on jesus's name to stop it i was surprised he didn't mention that um you know joe jordan uh in his books and in his research he's he's pointed out he says i have over 400 documented cases where uh the only entity that was called upon that was able to stop it when they called upon was not buddha was not krishna was not any of these other uh eastern religions but absolutely 100 jesus christ and so if you're able to call upon jesus christ's name and it's able to stop it i wonder what that means about that religion i i i i take a that back but it's something that everyone should think about and look into because obviously this tells us two things christianity is powerful and number two this ufo thing is not
32:51 just some aliens from far distant galaxies that are here to help us it's probably something that's against jesus christ and i i uh i i'll lay the floor back to you matthew if you like no no i agree with what you have to say do we have do we have any more clips from this guy we do we have a couple more um high examples uh we don't see much of them oh this is one more thing before we go into that i want to mention uh he says we have examples of them in areas that are occultic what's interesting is there's not many examples this is what the naysayers will say there's not many examples of them in asia and what uh joe jordan brings out is the reason why that is is because they are focused on not the skies right now they're focused on on on on on on life they don't have time as americans do to sit back and watch i'm sure i'm sure they do i'm probably over generalizing but they don't care they he said i used to live in live in korea and i would talk about ufos because he's in front of the mufon network and he said uh they said why do you even care about that we don't have that stuff over here uh and he says why he says because we don't look at the skies we don't care about what's coming at us because uh and if you don't if you ignore it i think that's an important point it goes away um that's biblical too you uh uh ignore it and it'll call upon jesus name it'll flee from you um let's let's go on to the next clip real quick so we can see exactly what else this guy says about it wow that is incredibly powerful and this has all been really thought-provoking of course i have to ask you about david grush and the you know testimony obviously an intelligence officer served for 14 years um in a variety of capacities his testimony congressional testimony garnered a lot of attention what was that like for you to watch and what were some of your takeaways on that well he's been speaking about this for many years and what i noticed in his testimony before congress is that he softened his claims a lot he used to be claiming that our government actually had bodies of ufo beings he basically said that he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he was a ufo being and he basically says no what we have and he basically says no what we have and he basically says no what we have as biologic tissue as biologic tissue as biologic tissue and so and he was also hedging his claims and so and he was also hedging his claims and so and he was also hedging his claims about what about what about what they had in the way of their hangers but he they had in the way of their hangers but he they had in the way of their hangers but he stood by his claim that our government stood by his claim that our government stood by his claim that our government actually has significant physical pieces actually has significant physical pieces actually has significant physical pieces of alien spacecraft dating back to 1933 of alien spacecraft dating back to 1933 So I wound up doing a podcast on why his claims should not be believed.
35:39 They're not credible. I can give you three quick reasons. Number one, U.S. government security is not up to the task. Six decades of cover-up of something that fits in multiple hangars where you've got 20, 30, 50-foot pieces of artifacts. I mean, you're young, but I can remember when Richard Nixon, as the U.S. president, tried to cover up a single audio cassette tape, and he was only successful in doing that with all the power of the executive branch behind him. He could only cover up a cassette tape for 11 days. So are we to believe that the government actually has these hangars filled with physical craft, with biological tissue inside of them that nobody's been able to come out? And I say, number two, where are the artifacts? I mean, I've been to different museums where I've been able to see up close multiple rocks recovered from the Apollo astronauts, real artifacts that I can see that are on display in museums where people pick them up and handle them with special gloves, of course.
36:47 But there's nothing like that with the UFO phenomena, nothing that you can tangibly see and touch that's in a museum. It's never come out. And the third reason is, I think, the most compelling. It's simply not possible for a physical craft to travel through interstellar space, at least not a craft of significant small size. I mean, for example, astronomers are interested in sending spaceships to the nearest planet outside of our solar system. It's only 4.2 light years away. But they realize as these spaceships travel through space, they'll encounter a lecture. And they'll be able to send a whole bunch of these tiny pieces of dust, electrons, protons, helium nuclei, tiny bits, tiny pieces of dust. And this will destroy the craft. And the greater the size of the craft, the greater the destruction. So they've come up with a plan to say we're going to send tiny spaceships and we're going to send a whole bunch of them.
37:49 So the proposal is to send a thousand spaceships no bigger than 10 centimeters across to the nearest planet outside our solar system with the understanding that at least half of them will be totally destroyed. The other half will only be partly destroyed, but destroyed in different ways. And so the hope is we'll get some information back. But there's no way you're going to send a termite across interstellar space, or even a microbe, let alone something the size of a human being. In fact, I've written articles making the point if you want to send an animal, a physical animal, roughly the size of a human being, across interstellar space, number one, you're looking at thousands of years to make the trip. That's a long time, way beyond the lifetime of a human being. And you're going to need a spaceship at least the size of the Death Star. Because you need the spaceship to be big enough that you can protect the inhabitants from deadly interstellar radiation.
38:53 And you also need to be able to provide them with artificial gravity. And enough sustenance that they can survive trips that are going to last thousands of years. And so at a minimum, you're going to need a spaceship that's a thousand kilometers across. And if you really want to be safe about doing it, you're going to need something about the size of our moon. And so the idea that these things in hangars in different places, no, it's way too small to bring beings across interstellar space. So I'm going to pause right there. I agree and disagree with some of this what he said, but I think it's interesting that this channel doesn't necessarily just present... It's going to present everything that is being said about this, so we can talk about it.
39:45 And so I think it's fascinating what he's saying, do humans need gravity in order to be... Do we need the size of the Death Star? I don't know about that. But I... And I think... it's interesting that he's bringing up that we are in need to do this. Can we go the speed of light? I don't know. I don't know about that. We'll see. But I think what's the truth is that these things are definitely hiding from us, and they're definitely here. What do you think, Matthew? Firstly, I think that it is entirely possible for sections of the government or even extra governmental companies, whatever, groups of people to keep things secret from the public for long periods of time. I don't agree that, oh, just because this is such an earth-shattering thing, it has to be out in public. There have been some leakages. The public has known bits and pieces here. But it often just sounds so outlandish, and also due to people purposely putting out disinformation. There have been government agents who, and this is not even me speculating. This is just a fact. There have been people who have gone into the ufologists, and they're a plant, and they feed them disinformation, or they go up and they speak in front of a room full of people who are the truth seekers, and they'll just throw them down the totally wrong trail, and they do that type of stuff. So, I think that's something that we need to do to cover up something, and I think we're getting closer to figuring out what that is. Secondly, he talked about how the physical proof, he mentioned the moon rock that they brought back and gets handled delicately. This is an interesting story that no one seems to talk that much about these days, but it was back in 2009. There was a moon rock in a museum, in the Dutch National Museum, and they analyzed it, and it turns out that it wasn't a moon rock. It was a moon rock in a museum, and they analyzed it, and it turns out that it wasn't a moon rock in a museum, and they analyzed it, and it turns out that it wasn't a moon rock in a museum, and they analyzed it, and it turns out that it wasn't a moon rock at all. It was a piece of petrified wood. So, I mean, even here, I have the article up in front of me, and there's someone, one of the spokeswomen from the museum says, it's a good story with some questions that are still unanswered. She said, we can laugh about it. Oh, I'm glad we can laugh about being deceived that a moon rock is actually a piece of petrified wood, and that there are plenty of questions that just never got answered. unanswered. It's, like I said, back in 2009, and there's no resolution. You can look it up for yourselves. Just Google moon rock petrified wood, and you'll see all of the major outlets discussing it. Not very long articles or meaningful articles, just stating the fact that, yeah, they said it was from the Apollo 11 mission, and they gifted it to the museum, and it's a hunk of wood. That's it.
42:46 It's a joke, really, when you get to this sort of stuff. The final point I want to make is, and I agree with you, Bradley, I don't necessarily think that you need to be in a Death Star-sized spaceship, especially when you're breaking the laws of physics, which is what we see them doing on Earth. We observe them going at speeds and making maneuvers. We have no idea how they're capable of doing that. It's going to be very easy to just say, well, we can make it here because we somehow bend the laws of physics, or we're extradimensional. We enter a wormhole, and we appear wherever we want. We don't want to appear at any matter of time. There's a lot of ways around it. That's why these conventional scientific methods of approaching this phenomenon will all fail, because they'll be able to redefine science, and they're going to try to redefine spiritual understanding. They're going to try to redefine religion. That's really the only ground that we can fight on, because none of us are physicists. Well, maybe some of us in the chat, maybe we are physicists, but most of us don't have a... a handle on these types of things that they're going to address, and they're going to explain. And I'm sure that the people at the top of their fields will all shake their heads and go, wow, we never thought of it that way. This is satisfying our scientific models. Thank you so much. It's up to us as an individual believer, when they start espousing these new religious beliefs and spiritual beliefs, that we can be the authority. We can say, no, no, no. I've read the Bible. I've put my faith in God and Jesus Christ. I've read the Bible. I've put my faith in God and Jesus Christ. I've put my faith in God and Jesus Christ. I've put my faith in God and Jesus Christ.
44:21 This is anti-Christ. This is going against that narrative, and I don't believe you. Hopefully we never have to have that type of a, I don't believe you, but I don't believe them. Do your best to stay away, honestly. Very good. Very, very good. Yeah. And so we've hit triple digits tonight on the live stream, and I want to remind everyone, hit that like button, hit that little bell icon on the subscribe, because you're going to want to subscribe to more stuff that's happening. This is our small, small show. This is our weekend, our weekday, weekday, week, week show that it becomes much stronger on the weekend. On Sunday nights, you're not going to want to miss our flagship episode of Strange Normal. Make sure you are also looking down here, that number down here, 267-NORMAL-1. You can call that tonight. Not yet, but we are going to open those lines tonight if you want to make a comment or if you have something to say. We will be opening those lines on Thursday nights. And hit that like button again, subscribe, because you're not going to want to miss that. I want to add to that, the tape cover-up that he was talking about was actually, I think, called Watergate, right?
45:38 Watergate. It's Watergate. Yeah, the Watergate Hotel. Richard Nixon. Yeah. Are you familiar with how it went down, Bradley? You know, I should probably know my U.S. history. I don't, but I know it was political, and so hiding something that's political is much, much harder than something that is deleterious and benevolent. That would be much, much easier, I think, if there's something coming to you and saying, oh yeah, by the way, we've created all religions on earth, and we've created you guys, and we're experimenting on you, and we want to cover this up, or some weird story like that, that they have said these things have told them. I'm sure that this thing, I'm sure that this thing, I'm sure that this thing, I'm sure that this thing, I'm sure that this thing wasn't political. As we've seen already in Congress, this is a, both sides are coming together on this thing, and I imagine both sides came together of the people that were on those sides when it was covered up, too. So I don't think it's a good comparison to compare a very political-motivated thing to a non-political-motivated thing. Anyway, what are you going to say? Right. I agree. I think that, especially in the world of politics, there's a lot of things going on behind the scenes. That we're not aware of. And a lot of the people who are on the TV screens, or phone screens nowadays, I think is more apt. They wield very little real power. There are people behind the scenes who are moving them, and even then, those people are ultimately controlled by spiritual forces. So when something like Watergate breaks, and a sitting president has to resign because of the disgrace behind that being found, he was essentially...
47:20 People under his, on his team were illegally spying on his political rivals. That's what happened. And when something like that happens, and that story breaks, you have to wonder, okay, what purpose does this serve? This has to serve a greater purpose. Recently, I saw, it was a documentary that covered a lot of different things. It was an interesting documentary. Some things that I've heard of, some things I haven't heard of, but they touched on the... John F. Kennedy assassination, and some of the very, very strange things that happened behind that. It might not be strange in the sense that it's related to UFO stuff, but it's strange in that there are so many holes in the story that was given. And time and time again, documentarians, people who have done the research, have come forward and said, this does not make sense. The way that they put this information out, it doesn't make sense. There were a lot of people who were witnesses of the assassination. They were harassed. In some cases, they were intimidated, threatened. And there have been people who have been killed who were involved as witnesses. And when it comes to these weird political things that happen, like I said, I agree with you. It's not a good comparison to draw because there are all these strings that are being pulled there. And if they want to take someone down, either assassinate them literally, or they want to take someone down, and they want to take someone down, and they want to take someone down, and they want to take someone down, and they want to really assassinate them, or politically assassinate them, it's just a matter of snapping the fingers, really. And it happens. Yeah, absolutely. There was actually, and we brought this out before, but when they were creating the nuclear weapons for the first time, they were signing contracts to say, if you talk about this, you could be killed. And so that's not an abnormal thing for the government to say, yeah, these things, if you find out about something, you could die, not accidentally. And that's like the government government, not the shadowy people who exist, like parasites on the government that don't make you sign a contract before they kill you. Or maybe they do. Anyway, we're getting off topic. But let's jump into... That's what Thursday is for, Bradley. That's what Thursday is for. Rabbit trails. That's what we're supposed to do.
49:49 Maybe that's the name of the show. Do you like rabbit trails? Maybe we'll be putting up another poll. I feel like Thursday night, we also need to come out with polls for the audience. That's a good idea. Actually, we can do that live. Let's think up some polls, and we'll talk to the audience here. Rabbit trails could be good. I kind of like that. Let's jump into this next clip. Here we go. Yeah. Well, you know, we live in a world where the social political systems are becoming more polarized. That's also happening in a spiritual level. Yes, I could see how people are moving away from God and get discouraged, but I also see something else happening. People around the world hungering for spiritual truth. I mean, I just got back from Toronto, where I was engaging through satellite, you know, people in Afghanistan and Iran. And that's a place where the church is exploding. And I also see it here in the United States and in Canada. There are segments of our society, where there's great spiritual hunger, and people are thirsting for solid evidence that what the Bible teaches is true. And this is where Reasons to Believe stands. We take the book of nature, a book that's, in my discipline of astrophysics, the knowledge base doubles every five or six years. So we're taking all this emerging new information from God's book of nature to bring people to the book of scripture and into a relationship with Jesus Christ.
51:20 So yes, the devil is having a heyday, but it's nothing compared to what the Spirit of God is doing. And so let's not be discouraged by the bad stuff. We've been told in the Bible that would happen in the last days, where there'd be this bifurcation. But there's an incredible opportunity to take the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ to all the people, groups of the world. And I see a far greater hunger overseas than I hear in the United States. Church is growing. It's growing rapidly. But God wants to transform all people groups here in America as well. And he's given us these two books, the book of nature and the book of scripture, so we can come into a relationship, a loving relationship with him for the rest of eternity. Very good. Amen, Ross. That's a great point to make. And I like to make that point here on the channel from time to time. I like to make that point here on the channel from time to time. As dark as some of this stuff can be, as weird as it can be, ultimately, it's all about the good news. It's all about the second coming of Jesus Christ. That is something to get very excited about. Really, it overwhelms me, the excitement of that event. Because when I'm looking at this sort of stuff, I don't really feel a tinge of like, uh-oh, oh no, things like the walls are closing in. They're going to do it. They're going to do the weird thing. I just think about, wow, Jesus, you're really...
52:50 on your way. You're getting here really soon. And I can't wait to just thank you in person and say, you did it. You got us through this horrible time. And I think he could accompany that little talking about how people, I guess, are kind of going after some strange beliefs. He seems to be alluding to 2 Timothy 4, verse 2. It says, preach the word, be instant in season, out of season, reprove, reprove, reprove, reprove, reprove, reprove, reprove, reprove, reprove. Exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine, for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Yes, 100%. And I totally agree with what you're saying. I do want to bring out something interesting that I thought he said at the very beginning that I think he missed. And I think that even though the world is getting more spiritual, we have to, as a Christian community, be careful who we align ourselves with. Because there will be, in Revelation 13, chapter 13 talks about this, the last grandstand before the second coming is a religious one.
54:13 It's a religious one where everyone gets together and decides what they're going to follow or what they're going to not follow, and they end up... destroying, the majority end up destroying the remnant. And so that remnant is, of course, the ones who get to be saved. Jesus himself said there is going to be a very small group. He says this very small group. I'm going to have to look up that verse, but wide is the gate and narrow is the way. And so I think it's very... we have to be very careful what religious groups we align with. Are we going to... align with one that aligns with, that accepts and brings in every single doctrine that we could possibly think of? That brings in something that is not according to the Bible? That is the most dangerous thing that we could possibly do. Or are we going to say, hey, we're going to focus on sola scriptura. We're going to say what the Bible says is what we believe as Christians, and we believe that the majority is usually not the one.
55:20 That's what I think. Even though everyone's becoming more spiritual, and this looks like a good thing, to the majority, it is going to look like a good thing. But it might not be. Yes, and there are many people that I consider Bible-believing Christians that seem to be able to identify a threat on their horizon. And it's the threat that you're talking about, where we need to be careful as Christians what groups we align ourselves, with. Right now, there is a large movement. It's known as the Christian Nationalist Movement. And I think that's one that we need to be very wary of, because it can seem very attractive, especially if you've been embroiling yourselves in politics. Politics are designed to incite you. It's designed to polarize you. And right now, politics are at the... I don't know another time where they've been so at odds with each other. They've been at odds with each other on every single thing. If you want to fight somebody about some issue, I guarantee you that the two political parties in this nation, and the United States specifically, are already fighting about it. And you could just jump in on their argument. It's important that we as Christians remain observers. It's very hard because, yes, we do have these strong opinions on some of these things. Namely, I could think of abortion would be one that we have a strong opinion on, because life is sacred, and God has knitted each individual in the womb, and that is a life form, and they shouldn't be murdered. It's wrong. But at the same time, we can't hitch ourselves to a political organization and argue from that standpoint. We need to do it from a biblical standpoint. Because ultimately, who is fighting our battle? God is fighting our battle. Jesus Christ is our commander-in-chief. It's important that we surrender over to him so that he can be the one that gives you the answer. And I think that's a very important point. It's important that you have the orders so that you know where to march and what to say and what to do. That's why you have to pray. It's important before you have an engagement with someone, especially if you know you're going to, pray for the Holy Spirit to help you and to give you the words. It's like the first chapter of Jeremiah where he says, I'm a child, and I can't speak to them. And then he's touched on his mouth, and it's behold, you know, I put my words in your mouth and go forth. God will do that for you and speak from personal experience i've had times where i've been like a deer in headlights in a situation and it's like i don't know what to do but then i remember i need to pray about this and i pray and all of a sudden it's like my tongue is undone jesus walked around and people who were unable to speak the dumb he was able to to just open up their mouths it's just like that it's like all of a sudden from being like uh what am i gonna say it's like oh this is what i'm going to say and it's just been effective and wonderful yeah i've also i've often said it's like a third a third option you see two options that are presented before you and you're like i have to pick one they both look terrible which one am i going to pick if you just slow down pray about it and and then open your eyes and see what god has to reveal for you there's a third option you didn't see before and it's a test and that's it yeah i think taking it a step further you can see that it's really not even a third option there are two options because the one option means you have to be involved politically one way or another you are going to steep yourselves uh into the mire of the world you're going to become more worldly because you're going to be getting involved in these politics or you can make the choice to step back and say this world is not my home the the kingdom that i want to belong to is not of this earth and you put your faith in jesus christ so you can just like eliminate those those options altogether because they're just not fruitful in the end it's and just be aware of that i think it's important that if you are aware of it raise awareness let people know hey we as christians are not going to storm the establishments
59:33 erect a cross on the white house lawn that's not that's not what jesus has asked us to do so it's important that we have a stronghold on that very good very good matthew i just realized tonight when you didn't talk about me in my podcast and you guys 생각이 behold due to instagram their spending 5 ται 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Okay, it's a significant portion of the audience. And if it really does, if it really helps somebody to focus better and to pay attention, that's what we ultimately want. But, yeah, maybe we'll have some cool backgrounds. I like the one you came up with on Sunday night, the strange normal one in the background. So, yeah, a lot of people seem to like the spacey background, though. So perhaps reducing some of the comets would help. And, you know, you figure it out, Brett. He's the technical wizard behind all of this anyway. So we'll get that eye on that.
1:00:53 We'll see. Did you hear the chimes? I did. I think that means my phone's connected to the thing. What a lovely sound. You know, actually, that was not it connecting. That was it telling me that it reminds me to go to bed. My phone does. Yeah, so it was like, doo-doo-doo, saying, you're bedtime. Time is set. Wind down, starting soon. So that's my phone smarter than I am. I want to acknowledge Rogu. Thank you so much for the super chat. This doesn't happen. This whole thing doesn't happen without you guys. And we want more of you to participate. If you think this is valuable, please go ahead and go to strange normal. I mean, patreon.com slash strange normal.
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1:02:44 I know the hot button topics. And I'm not going to touch. And for some reason, that's the first thing that came to my head. What do you think about? I'm not even going to say it. Let's do. Oh, Meredith, thank you so much for the super chat. Meredith is one of our patrons. And we appreciate that. Background is good, she says. Yeah. Thank you for the super chat. There is a loyal following for the background. So I want to do something for them, too. We can't, you know, need to be fair in our judgments here. What we do. So if anybody. What is tonight's topic? So tonight's topic, let's talk about the connection between. I should have decided this beforehand.
1:03:34 Let's go with. I have no idea. What do you think? No, I was pushing it on to you because I don't have any ideas. That's why I keep asking. Well, let's just talk about the video. Let's just talk about the videos that we've seen so far. Anything that you've seen in the video tonight. That you thought was interesting. Here, I got it. I've got it. Because this was Christian Broadcasting Network, right? And normally they don't touch stuff like this. If you call in, call in and tell us about a scenario where someone in the Christian community has been talking about this issue. Because I actually have a good. And I don't know. Did I mention this on here or may have been off air with you? But I'll bring it up again anyway. That's what I want you to do, by the way. That's tonight's topic. People in the Christian community. People in the Christian community that you've heard talking about UFOs that you never have heard talking about this stuff before.
1:04:23 Yeah. Because I went to a wedding less than a month ago. And when I was there, I got to talk to the father of the groom. And he's a great guy. He's just like so level-headed, just easygoing. Great guy to talk to. So just, yeah. And we're chatting. And he just casually goes, yeah, I watched the most interesting documentary the other night where they said that. Aliens are most likely demons and that alien abductions are just demonic encounters and it was just the craziest thing, but you know what it made perfect sense to me a good laugh and went into detail about all this different stuff that we talked about on strange normal so I'm definitely seeing it I'm seeing more and more people coming around to the idea that the aliens can be demonic, which is interesting because if enough people have that idea in their mind, you don't know what's going on. You'd think that they wouldn't try to do it because there's enough happening, but at the same time, you know, Jesus Christ comes into the world, all the scriptures point towards him and he's doing all these amazing things and people are denying him.
1:05:33 So maybe all of the evidence is obvious that these are demonic entities, but people are just going to deny that they are demonic entities. It could just be a complete flip. So we'll see how it goes. Absolutely. And, you know, a lot of my friends, I've had people come up to me at church and just say, hey, you know, I follow you, what you're doing on strange normal. I had this was this floored me this I'm going to I'm going to multi thread here. I was at the hospital. I was at my father was having some serious surgery, as most people know, and we were sitting there contemplating him going going under and having to take this. We were sitting in the room. And. And the anesthesiologist came in. I won't I won't call him his name or anything because I respect people's privacy. But but he's like, hey, I appreciate what you're doing on your channel. It absolutely floored me. I mean, I sit in and the reason why it was because I went to school for from grade eight from grade nine from grade one to high school with his wife.
1:06:43 And I didn't realize I imagine imagine you doing a. Podcast about UFOs and and you're realizing your your friends in high school are watching it with you. I mean, it was like. Oh, well, thank you. I appreciate that. But what did I talk about? You know, I mean, it's just it's I have to admit the topic is strange and you don't expect to just go back to all your high school and elementary school friends and and start saying, hey, by the way, let me tell you about UFOs. It's just not something. But ever, ever consider. But something maybe we should consider. And so anyway, the the anesthesiologist was like, we really appreciate what you're doing. And it's it's it's fascinating to see what's going on. And so you just don't know who you are influencing by just mentioning it, even at church, at work, anywhere.
1:07:39 It is you are truly an influence wherever you go and whatever you say, your your words permeate. The room like a perfume. And so that's that's I think what we should be like as Christians. And it's it's it was refreshing. So. Open phones tonight. I want to plug the line again. Two, six, seven. Normal one. That's two, six, seven, six, six, seven, six, two, five, one. Right down there on the bottom of the screen. Is there a way to make it just hold on the number? Yeah, I probably should look into some way to. To do. That. Oh, you're talking about I thought you meant if someone calls in to hold. I don't have a system yet that it's just going to ring right through. No, no. I mean, just like to have the number on screen available at all times. Yeah, yeah, I can do that. That would be nice. Let me see. You're you're right about being a representative, though.
1:08:36 It's important because we can be a really positive force. We can demonstrate a love for God and a love for our fellow man. Or, you know, you don't want to get caught out in a bad situation. You don't want to be. Losing your temper out there. You don't want to be acting rude towards people. She can be. The world is a very contentious place, and sometimes it's hard because I was. This happened a couple of months ago, but I went to a drive through and I was sitting at the drive through box, you know, where you talk to the person. I was sitting there for a good three minutes and I just say it with this tone, too. I was just like, Hello, is anybody there? Just kind of a nice little I'm sitting here. I don't know if maybe there's an issue and, you know, I'm here and the nastiest response.
1:09:27 Yeah, give me a minute if there's one thing, I mean, that gets under my skin. It's rudeness. I really don't like it when people are rude to me, rude to people around me. And I felt myself just get so worked up for a moment. It was just a moment. And I said, Yeah, you can have your minute. And I just just gently accelerated away. I was just like, I'm not going to deal with it. I'm not going to go there. There was a time in my life where I would have gone off the handle and it would have ruined my day. But I drive away. I say a prayer to subside my anger and I say a prayer for the people in there because I don't know if they're having a bad day. I don't know if they're stressed out. Maybe they got all this stuff going on. Just decompress and get to move on. But it was a good moment in my book.
1:10:16 I count that as a victory. Because it could have gone so much worse. And it just we all know we all have these little things that get to us. And you know who knows those little things even more than you do? It's the enemy. And they are working to exploit that. But James, which I read through recently, really excellent epistle. He talks about when we fall into temptation to count it all for joy because our patience will be made perfect. And that's part of what we have to do. Is. In a moment like that, count it for joy. God, I'm grateful that I had that opportunity to overcome a serious freak out moment that just got de-escalated. Thanks to your Holy Spirit. Right. It's important to to have that those moments. You know, Matthew, I just thought of a story that I thought I'd tell.
1:11:06 We probably picked a poor topic tonight because I don't think anybody wants to talk about their stories, but I got a few. Oh, that's fine. And we'll look through the chat here in a minute as well. Yeah, because I want to see what the chat's talking about. And so we've had, I don't know, about two thousand new, maybe maybe three thousand new people since we had this story in the channel. But there's a whole whole video dedicated to it. I think you should go back and watch it. But back when we went to Indiana, Indiana, it's where Wendy lives up there, we were coming back from a seminar, I guess you could call it a presentation on that. And we ended up flying with. A man from the talked about this on the show, a man from the World Wide Wrestling, what is it called? WWE Federation.
1:11:59 Yeah, yeah. World Wrestling Entertainment or whatever, WWE. And so his his name, I forget, was Nature Boy on that. You can look him up on on Google in your free time if you want. But we were coming down the ramp and someone was saying, hey, it's Nature Boy. And I said, well, who's this? Is he the Nature Boy? I mean, what is the Nature Boy? I want to know what Nature Boy is. He said, well, he's the Nature Boy. I said, what's on TV? What is that? He said, yeah, he's a he's a he's a entertainment wrestler. I said, OK, well, that's cool. So my buddy, Mikey, who's not here tonight, but he was with me and and Mikey was just going, oh, he said, let's go talk to him. And I said, OK, let's go talk to him. I wasn't thinking about anything. We got off the plane. We start walking in the airport. And. Um.
1:12:47 And we go up and we say, hey, Nature Boy, can we can we talk to you? Can we get your autograph or whatever it was? And we were just not joking around as being a nice or anything, but we wanted to legitimately talk to him and see what he who he was and stuff like that. And so and so he says, oh, so what do you guys do? And Mikey, I got to commend the man. He's just all out and said, oh, we just got through talking about we were Christian YouTubers. We just got. Done talking about aliens. So yeah, I'm like such a it's a genuine guy. He seems to just like come right out with it. I'm like, oh, no. Thinking to myself, oh, now we're going to explain all this. And because it opens up a huge topic and rightly so.
1:13:38 And so he's like, oh, OK. And he said, well. That's really interesting. OK, well, and I thought he was kind of blowing us off and they're like, I don't know what. OK. OK. And we kind of stepped away and we laughed about it among ourselves and we got his autograph and left. Well, we went to the baggage claim and it must have been five minutes because he went to the bathroom and stuff and we lost track of him and and we were waiting for our bags and the the Hollywood actor came up behind us and was like, hey, I just want to ask you more about that. What? What do Christians believe about aliens? OK. OK. And oh, my goodness. That was so refreshing because it it opened up a 20 minute conversation that we had right there in the airport talking about UFOs and aliens to this WWE guy. And he had he admitted he was a Christian, too.
1:14:32 And he often wondered he started telling us stories about what he had experienced and the supernatural phenomenons that he had. And in order to hear all those, you have to go back and watch that video. But because I can't remember them all. But it was. It was. It was quite a trip because you just don't know who you're going to run into and who you might influence and who you might get to talk about this. And the stories just spread like fire. And so that's that's the power of truth. That's the power of the gospel. Yeah. Yeah. And I hope that he is taking his walk very seriously in these times, I can't imagine being any kind of celebrity and trying to have a relationship. With God, it would it would be very difficult because you have these people who are keeping adoration on you. I remember when you told that story, it was like you guys got to talk to him, but then he got swamped by people and everyone wants pictures with them.
1:15:31 And what does that do to a man? I mean, it just your ego suddenly gets elevated to this point where you're I don't know. You just I think you get a little ahead of yourself unless you step back. And that's kind of like Peter did, where I believe it was Cornelius. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chad, but threw himself at his feet and he said, get up for I am a man. Also, it's important that as a Christian, you have that notion of no matter what people think of you, ultimately, no, I'm in need of a savior just as much as you are. And I'm not worthy of worship. So you direct that towards God, not towards me. Absolutely. You want to take a look at the chat? Let's see what the chat's talking about tonight. Yeah. We have Christian girl who loves Yeshua says cancer, both God and money.
1:16:22 Absolutely. Jesus expounded on that and said that you can't have two masters. You'll love one and hate the other. And specifically, you cannot serve God and mammon. So that that's true. If that if money becomes I don't think having wealth is necessarily a bad thing. I mean, you look at some of the people in the Bible. They were blessed. They were blessed with wealth. And it was it was a secondary thing. Really. Solomon, for example, he asked, give me wisdom. I want to be a wise and just ruler. And God said, because you've asked this of me, I'm also going to multiply your wealth just because that's the type of favor God will bestow upon you. And he knows ultimately what will be done with that doesn't mean that all of us need to be stewards of massive amounts of wealth. So people in the prosperity movement might disagree with me and say that poverty is some type of a curse. I don't think that's necessarily the case at all.
1:17:18 But there there are people who have money. It's just wow. Got to be responsible. Absolutely. Absolutely. Sorry. I was just looking at the chat and I want to thank Mr. Gavin. I'm going to call you, Mr. Gavin. Thank you so much for the super chat. What are IDRs? I know. And first I thought I thought he gave us $500,000. I don't understand. I don't understand what's going on here. That was Indonesian. It is. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was glad because I don't think I'm I don't know what I would do with $500,000 right now. But I'm talking about the money being blessed with wealth. I was I was million dollars. My heart skipped a beat for a second. I was like, oh, no, what?
1:18:05 I mean, it does take money to run this channel and we do appreciate it. But but thank you so much for that. That's a very generous. Donation. Yeah. Anything, anything that you want to offer again, talking about money in the gospel. There was that that destitute woman who cast and it says two mites into the temple treasury. And Jesus points out and says she's given more than everyone else because she's given all that she has. Absolutely. And that that means that, yeah, the guy who's showing up with a cart full of gold and the Pharisees are just like, yes, welcome. Here's your reserved seat up front. And. I'm sorry, I didn't want to interrupt you. I just wanted to. No. Yeah, go ahead. Amazing that I appreciate anybody from another country that contributes because I know it is it the amount you give goes a lot is a lot.
1:18:58 How do I say this is a lot more. My wife's Indonesian, so I've been to Indonesia a few times. Beautiful places, Makassar, Bali, Jakarta, and it's it's a beautiful place. But I want to say what? Mr. Or maybe it's Mrs. Gavin. I'm not sure says here. It says Brad's beard gave off the vibes of a conspiracy theorist. And she says, nevertheless, he's speaking the truth, though. And I appreciate it. Very, very good. And I appreciate your gift because we can't do this without you guys. Very good. Speaking of the speaking of the beards, I saw. Let me see. Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it?
1:19:43 Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Let me see. Who was it? Who was it? I saw your comment earlier. I wasn't able to address it, but I'm looking for it. I think it's ash a.k. I could be wrong. If I'm wrong, correct me. But they asked if we were in competition for who can grow the best. And I'll be you, Matthew. No way. I tell you. I tell you. I'm already growing white hair? What's going on here? So it's barely seeable. Anyway, my wife hates it, so it might not stay very long. No, in less than one week, I turned 30. Can you believe that? Really? I didn't know you were. Wow. Yeah, I'm almost 30 years old, man, and it's crazy to me to get out of the 20s because I thought I'd be in a totally different place.
1:20:38 I thought I was going to be dead at 27, to be honest. But ironically, God had different plans for me and gave me new life rather than that. I just want to also point out this comment in the chat here where Ash AK, again, commenting on the beard situation, said that I look like Seth Rogen. Okay. I've heard that one before. Unfortunately, I think when I grow my hair out a little bit like this, when it's been a little while and my beard grows out, people do make the Seth Rogen connection. That's fine. I can look like Seth Rogen as long as I don't behave like Seth Rogen because I think he can be pretty despicable and has an obvious hatred of God. There are people in Hollywood. Some of them are like they play it on the fence.
1:21:31 They're kind of like, oh, I like all sorts of religions. It's kind of like when people say, I like all sorts of music. I like all sorts. I like all sorts of religions. But then there are some people who are just like, oh, you believe in Jesus Christ? Let me just scoff openly at you. So, Matthew, if you don't mind me asking, I apologize for taking up everyone's time here. We're just chatting now. But what is your birthday? Because I think we're almost exactly 10 years apart. My birthday is coming up in about a week. Well, my birthday is, drumroll please, August. August 28th. August 28th. Okay. So, you get very less. Yeah, September 8th. So, we're just a few more days after that. Fantastic. Well, there you go. Interesting. Not bad. Okay. So, enough about us.
1:22:23 This is, I feel funny talking about myself too much. So, I probably said that. Maybe I'll just cut that part out. But I don't know. But. No identifying information. I know. Bradley, what's your social security number? Maybe RNO. Have you seen that? Have you seen that? Like on Facebook and stuff? They're like, let's play a game. Tell me about your first pet. And what was his name? And what was your middle name? And then tell me about your father's maiden name. Or your mother's maiden name. And so, I'm thinking to myself, yeah, that's not a game. That's the way to get all your password questions that you say. Yeah. So, I think that's. That's an awful tactic too. It just shows the world we live in. Because there are a lot of innocent people, you know, sheltered or otherwise.
1:23:16 You see that type of stuff. And it's like, oh, it's just a fun game. I wonder what everyone else's first pet's name was. No, there's sinister people like fishing your information out of you. And I just, I look forward. That's part of the reason I look forward to living in the new earth so much. In addition to having God dwelling with us and all of the glory that that entails. The interpersonal relationships are going to be so much better. Because there's no one who's actively looking to do something sinister or underhanded. And you know how many weird occult signs and symbols there are? It really bothers me. You know, a good example is Russell Brand. He goes around with 33. He's done 33 everything. And if you know anything about masonry, 33 is a pretty significant number.
1:24:05 But don't just say, oh, 33. I love 33. 33. 33. It's my favorite, favorite number. Oh, it's just your favorite number. And then you have Elon Musk, who has changed Twitter to X. And there's some occult implications behind the letter X. And when he's asked, it's just like, oh, well, X is just my favorite number. Our favorite letter. It's like, you're a grown man with a favorite letter, Elon? I don't think so. This is in kindergarten, okay, where we go around the classroom. What's your favorite color? But it's just ridiculous. I look forward to a day when there is no sinister undertone. And if you tell me that you have a favorite letter and that favorite letter is X, I can go, cool. That's great. It doesn't set off any alarms in my head. On a much seriouster note, I have paid for a service. And this is just between us and the rest of the world, I guess.
1:25:00 I paid for a service that scrubs my name and number and address and stuff from the Internet. Why? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Has there been any recent activity or has it kind of subsided? Yeah, it's kind of subsided. But I've been very active in doing that. So, it's a weird thing. And I think it's a stranger in a strange normal. But I also think that this is... um, a precursor that we all must think about. I didn't think about it. I've never thought about this stuff. Um, but when people dislike your message or they dislike you as a person, you might encounter this type of stuff. And so that's why I have been active. A lot of podcasts put up their names on the bottom of the screen and stuff. We, we, I don't tend to do that as much, especially not now at the very beginning, I might say first name, but, but, um, you don't want the attention, I think, especially when people don't like your message. So, um, it's all something we have to think about when we're out there, uh, being good stewards of the message and spreading it. You know, even Christ, when he was trying to go to, um, uh, where was it? Uh, his, his, his final battle, the, the disciples were saying, hey, hey, why don't, why don't we go? Let's, let's go and, and heal Lazarus and, and, and all this other stuff. Well, Christ knew.
1:27:05 That if he goes up to this area, I mean, God's not telling him to do that yet, number one, but number two, uh, there's a good potential that someone's waiting for him up there. That's going to do something very bad. And he knew his time had come. And, um, he was very aware. He says, my time is not yet. My time is not yet. My time is. And, uh, then he was crucified. And so, uh, we have to also be very, uh, diligent and, and not like, I don't think I'm not in any, uh, type of life danger or anything like that. I want to make that very clear, but, uh. Right. It's just some harassment. It's some weird stuff. Yeah. Right. And so I, I think it's, uh, it's. Not fun. Very good to, to be diligent and think about those things. Well, here's some scripture for you, Brad. That's John 15, 18, and 19. If the world hate you, you know that it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love his own. We are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. Therefore, the world hated you.
1:28:12 That's the reality of the situation. So we're, we're called to a higher purpose and it does put us at enmity with the, I mean, the God of this world that puts us at odds with Satan. And unfortunately he does have so many different agents. He has so many different ways to get at us and inspire people. You're, they're talking about having some run-in, that I had that deep, deep life with it. Fortunately, I haven't had anything like that happen to me. There could happen if it does happen, then stay in prayer. That's my best advice for you, because you're not the first to encounter difficulties because of your beliefs and the message that you're bringing, and you're not going to be the last. So it's going to be okay. Where we're, we're all going to get through this. And we'll all say, we'll be praying for you, you know, pray for each other. I think it's. Yeah. We have a really nice community here. I really enjoy that. Mm-hmm. looking at the comments the live chats you know i see familiar faces and then i see uh you know some new faces and it's always fun to just know uh that there are people watching and we all care about each other so please uh put your anything even prayer requests in the chat yeah uh and and we'll pray for you and i also want to push the the the likes one more time uh hit that like button hit that subscribe button because we have so much more going on on this channel and you're going to want to be subscribed to it you're going to be want to be uh hit that bell icon so you find out when we go live and you can be here with us in the live chat it's a lot of fun it's a lot of fun to communicate with all you guys and uh to watch the chat goodbye so um this is like a little community of uh of a group that's i mean right now we have about 100 people we usually have like two or three four thousand which is it's fun it's just a neat little group that has has formed out of this that knows the truth it's uh and and is uh pushing pushing this message forward watching prophecy fulfill before our very eyes and i think that's fantastic i i don't know matthew are we about done i think we're about done tonight uh yeah we could we can cut it off i think i've had i've had some fun it's been nice chatting with everyone no phone calls but that's okay you know you guys call when you want to call there's no pressure behind it we'd love to hear from you we would it's fun to get some voices on the line i know paul terry called in last week um so paul if you're in the chat we appreciate you we appreciated that we appreciate you all every night but um yeah let's see oh i see here in the chat just real quick uh julianne says here's a prayer request a family friend is in the hospital for the third time in the past couple months for various reasons her name is faith that's a beautiful name and i think that we can certainly pray for her and i think i also saw a comment from a person named zachariah rutledge who said that they weren't feeling well and anyone who was reading to say a prayer for them so bradley let's let's conclude with prayer and let's pray for faith and for zachariah would you would you like to do the honors yeah yeah let me i didn't write those down so let me let me write down real quick uh zachariah zachariah and faith who are you know zachariah says that they're not feeling well could be anything that they're not feeling well about but faith as well okay and meredith yeah says that her her mom has some surgery i kind of like this you know this could be a thursday night thing as well i wouldn't mind praying communally on thursday nights we really are looking to make this more of a community thing and if you enjoy this type of content where i know we're not necessarily on topic the entire evening but that's the point of this we're we're trying to just have
1:32:05 a nice laid back opportunity to interact with you guys to address doctrine to just quote the scriptures that we have on our hearts and sunday night that's our structured broadcast and if you like that a little bit better go there if you like it both then tune in for both but yeah let's uh let's pray for meredith's mother as well and and lisa is saying pray for me that the a will finally get my surgery approved okay yeah yes let's let's take those prayers and or these requests and and get them into action because we've got over 100 people right now that's a that's a strong community so everybody let's bow our heads in prayer and bradley if you'll do the honors absolutely um father god thank you so much for giving us tonight where we can just think about you honor you and everything you're doing in our lives and um what's the bible calls is the truth is about to happen we know that there is spiritualism in the world and we we know that it's it's here to deceive us so we want to ask that you give us wisdom bring us bring before us a a person that needs to hear this message help them to bring it up even and help us to be uh ready uh to answer any questions they have about it uh we specifically have a few prayer requests and i want to remember the names of these people that you have the opportunity to do so and i want to thank you so much for joining us today and i ask a question of wisdom in the name of the holy name of the holy spirit of the father and the have already known their prayer requests because they said it in the chat. And that primarily is Zach, Faith, Meredith, and Lisa. Guide them, direct them, answer them according to your will. We love you, God. Amen. Amen. Alrighty.
1:33:50 Well, that's it. Yeah, and I don't think you have an outro built for this show yet, do you, Brad? I still don't. Yeah, I still, this is still, it's very nonchalant, so. In the Discord, I'm going to post, by the way, in the Discord, any Discord members who are watching, I'm going to put under the Design and Production tab, we're going to ask and solicit from you guys for potential names for the show. And I want everybody to weigh in, and then next week we can figure something out as far as something other than the after show, so it's not as confusing as maybe the after show is. Post-show. Well, yeah, we've got all sorts of shows. Anyway. There's nothing left to say, but I love you. Why? Why do you say that? You have to explain that. One of your outros, one time, before Brad had a structured outro for the main show, he just bumbled around one night and the music was playing. He's just like, I love you.
1:34:50 I love you all. I love you all. I do love you all. He said, I love you, I said. I love you all. It's fair to love them, but it's not like you're hanging up with your mom. You're getting off the phone with your wife. I love you. I love you all. Hey, let's hear that in the chat. If you love us and we love you, we're going to sing the Barney song here in a minute, but we appreciate everything you're doing, seriously. And we appreciate you guys listening to us bumble around, and we will catch you again very soon. All right, see you on Sunday. See you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.