0:00 the lady felt the breath on her neck she she she heard or felt the heartbeat and when you're dealing with people that are of a scientific mind and that's their religion so to say then they want quantifiable evidence you know they want tangible evidence well there it is what are you going to say to that our guest tonight is chris hudson chris hudson is a 15-year evangelist and also the creator of the documentary series leopard vision he has his own social media accounts and youtube channel which he has many videos on but one in particular stood out to me one about ufos so i reached out to chris and i said what's going on with this chris you you recently did a short on the topics of ufos what made you decide to do that short right well um in recent days as i'm sure you've been watching what's been transpiring in the news um the u.s government began to declassify information concerning these um these uaps and um and began to open up to the public the things that they've been uh seeing and they can't explain and so of course there's a lot of people that have questions on that information and so because i know the bible does give us enlightenment on this subject i thought that it would be pertinent for me to to delve into that yeah yeah it's amazing you mind if we show that real quick i'm gonna i want to show the show everyone that the house holding its first public hearing on ufos in more than 50 years i find this so fascinating that the house intelligence committee is holding a hearing on ufos right now because initially when i saw all of these unidentified aerial uh situations i thought well this must be the chinese communist party this must be an adversary that's you know that that's surveilling but then we understand from this report that it wasn't that so when what is it in luke chapter 10 in verse 18 jesus said i beheld satan as a lightning fall from heaven the devil and his fallen angels have the ability to travel at speeds and perform technical aerial maneuvers that far exceed our human capabilities they're the ones that are behind this unexplainable phenomena and they're using them to prepare our minds for the final great deception that will seduce many amongst us to unite with satan to fight against god in the battle of armageddon don't be deceived you can consider yourself warned and whether you like it the truth is the truth love it love it it great job on that and i was i was like ah someone else is picking this up finally that's fantastic and uh and and because it seems like no one wants to cover it unless i uh unless i go forth and say hey we need to talk about this and i i've gone to a few different uh well well-known speakers and they've they've covered it they've done sermons on it and i think it's a big deal because inside the the realm of this lore and the people that aren't kind of against religion but they believe in this ufology they believe that this is going to completely demolish religion and i i find that fascinating because i don't believe that i think it's going to i think we're going to be amazed at what's going to happen it's going to cause a little bit of a a disagreement maybe in a rift uh even maybe a new religion that pops out of this that causes um some grief for us in the last days what do you think yeah i stand in agreement with you on that i i fully believe that obviously i'm i'm a bible believer like yourself so um i fully believe that all that's going on right now with the uaps and um people looking into uh looking into alien visitation etc it's all a part of satan's agenda to bring again bring about the last great conflict you know like revelation chapter 16 and verse 13 tells us i'd be healthy unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the forest prophet these are the spirits of devils working miracles which have gone forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world to gather them to the battle of the great day of god almighty so i i really do believe that it's these fallen angels that are um perpetrating you know these these uaps and uh i believe that people that are more inclined to really follow science and those
4:50 things that are tangible and material uh this is going to be the means by which they're sucked into the the spiritual realm so to say if that makes any sense um this is going to be the means by which they are are drawn into this this this this deception uh whereas they may not be inclined to believe in god and the bible at this time when they come face to face with an entity that they cannot deny is real and it's communicating with them breathing on their necks and then it presents them with a reality that they cannot deny that's not only that's not only of a spiritual nature but it's antagonistic to what's already written in the scriptures then they'll be inclined to accept that truth and become proponents of it as well that's my that's my take on it absolutely absolutely and you know what's interesting i i've been researching this for a few years and i've gotten to talk to some well-known uh christians that are have been in this for a while in fact they are uh have you ever heard of mufan no mufan is uh it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a the mutual ufo network it's a bunch of volunteers throughout the u.s and the world that are actually picked up by the police have you seen that there was a recent vegas uh sighting that though is being uh talked about in the news right now and um they they call in mufan when it gets too weird for the police and mufan comes in they take a report they look at stuff what's what goes on and one of the directors of mufan and then in black yeah there you go and uh so i i talked to uh a guy named joseph jordan he has a few books out uh he's a christian man and he said something interesting is also attached this phenomenon let me play you a little clip because it's really fascinating so i came across it first through other people's work barbara bathalic was one of the earlier um abduction researchers and whitley strever has been in the research for a long time even after his book and his experiences both of them before i came across one had talked about in their writings their findings where they had interviewed people that during their abduction experience which we now know is you know what it is part of what the experience was encountering a former live relative in other words they were encountering a dead relative on the craft and what barbara bathalic stated was these entities have the ability to appear in any form to control you as a deity as a dead relative as anybody okay but they were able to appear on the craft at the same time as the aliens excuse me that makes no sense at the same time that at the same time people have seen their dead relatives on they've been shown their dead relatives introduced to them on the craft at the same time during their experience uh okay so i'm going to stop it there because actually it's a longer clip but um what i think find is fascinating about that is that the bible was very clear about about what happens when you die and to say that they are seeing their dead relatives on an abduction experience which i don't believe is actually a physical experience something that happening is happening in their head but if these things are able to uh make themselves appear or in their head or even physically as something that's that's gonna cause a lot of grief for a lot of people at the end what do you think oh of course and um yeah you know we we know that uh according to the scriptures that that our dead loved ones we know that they are right now in the grave like the bible talks about in the book of acts chapter um two you know it speaks about david and how david in acts chapter two i believe it's verse 29 how david is now in the grave you know he's dead in the grave in this pulpit verse 34 tells us that he has not ascended into heaven um in isaiah i believe it is we're told that uh the dead don't praise the lord and of course in ecclesiastes chapter 9 we're told that the living know that they shall die for the dead no not anything neither have they any more reward for the memory of them is forgotten also their love and their hatred and their envy is now perished neither have they any more portion forever in anything that is done under the sun so we know that the dead are currently in a state of unconsciousness in the grave awaiting the first or the second resurrection and so you know this just lines up
9:42 with a little bit of what we were just talking about initially at the start of this uh you know this this this conversation um yeah these demonic agencies are perpetrating this and it's just laying the groundwork for spiritualism on a broader scale than i think you know we've even begun to see uh in our lifetime so i i think it's quite it's it's it's it's disturbing you know it's really disturbing but um if you allow me to talk a little bit more on it god did tell us this was going to happen right he told us in the book of first timothy that in the last day some shall depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and the doctrine of devils and i think we've just been getting primed by hollywood you know to this thing and um and now the fact that the u.s government and the governments of our world the vatican all of them are talking about you know ufos uaps contacting um alien intelligences you evidently evidently we're in the last days and evidently this thing is getting ready to come to a head so it really behooves each and every one of us to be grounded in the truth so that we're not swept by this thing yes wow so we have to know our bibles we have to know exactly what what it says otherwise um i mean how did how did satan came to to jesus even and and how did he fight it off i mean he he knew scripture right that's right use the word of god we're talking about uh matthew chapter four john chapter four and you know that's and that's another interesting um that's another interesting point that you bring up because when you think about jesus's encounter with satan in the wilderness uh you know in the wilderness of temptation so to say when he after his baptism um jesus had a real interaction with satan not only did satan try to tempt him to turn the stones into bread but the bible tells us that satan literally physically took him and flew him up to the pinnacle of the temple and then satan literally physically took him and flew him up to a high summit of the temple and he was able to do that and he was able to do that and he was able of a mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of this world and the glory of them and uh you know in one instance so when you think about these um these abduction experiences that people are having they could actually be having some real physical interactions with demonic agencies for all that we know because if the devil would be bold enough to show christ the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them not just one kingdom but all the kingdoms of this world and the glory of them in one instance in a panorama i'm pretty sure that uh these these these fallen angels have the ability to do things that most of us wouldn't even begin to dream of but the word of god gives us some insight on it so i'm not going to say that these people are not having supernatural experiences but they're susceptible to these supernatural experiences because of the fact they are not rooted and grounded in the truth they're not in christ jesus and therefore they're opened up and you know that like i was saying earlier they've been primed by all the things that they're reading and seeing and due to their lack of connection with the lord they're in a position where the enemy can just come to them with these deceptions yes wow wow and that opens up a whole new can of worms but um i want to play a clip that talks about this because chris lang did a a video on a life of a man called roger murno and and this guy has had a wild experience i'm not going to talk to him about it right now but while he was making the video he had someone helping him and i want to show you what happened to that person pertaining to what you say about physical nature of these things watch this i had done a tv interview and i was talking about the screenplay for this for this story roger murno's story and i was talking about how we were going to be looking for a script writer to help us to partner with and uh a couple days after that interview i got a phone call from a lady who talked about how she'd been a a writer in hollywood uh during the late 70s early 80s she was very successful at the program she had done now she's retired and she has time and she said you know my son passed away 15 years ago and i said i'm so sorry she says oh that's okay he came to visit me two years ago i said i said really she said oh yes she said he i was in my master bedroom getting dressed one morning and he walked right through the door like he did when he was alive and came and sat down the uh on
14:33 the bed next to me and gave me a big hug and i said esther can i interrupt you she said sure what is it i said can i ask you a question just to clarify mm-hmm this was not a spirit that came through the wall this was a physical body that came through the doorway now she said absolutely yeah had to open the door she said he had his hand on the doorknob he came in she said he sat down next to me and these were the these were the the proofs because remember seeing and feeling and hearing is becoming the nature of reality for the world if you see it you believe it's becoming truth it's becoming their truth right right and so she said i felt the breath on my neck i felt the warmth of his skin he embraced me and i felt his heartbeat that's crazy that's scary very physical characteristics and then she said he didn't stay long and he didn't say much he got up and he before he went back through the door he turned around and he said to me thanks mom for getting the word out everything is light love and eternity wow and he turned around and he went back through the door and she hasn't seen that manifestation of her son since then so what's interesting about that is that he's using the words he said light and love this is something that a lot a lot of ufologists new age uh appeal use this terminology light and love all the time and as i've been researching this you i've noticed i mean it's it's it's very obvious that the new age ideas if you've ever studied the new age ideas are exactly the same as ufology everything about it it's paralleled and uh and you can you can almost use the different terms uh if you say a new age you can say ufology it's really strange i think it makes a lot of sense it makes a lot of sense because it's it's it's one of the same deception it's just being perpetrated slightly different but it's they're the same thing you know it's all all roads lead to the same place um and when i heard him talking about that uh obviously um reminds me of the scripture was the second corinthians um chapter 11 and verse 14 it says and no marvel for satan himself is transformed into an angel of light and uh yeah he can present himself to us as you know very um welcoming being and just as as uh what's the what was that gentleman's name by the way that was chris lang he's um he's a documentary filmmaker uh he made uh charmed by darkness i think was the name of the film yeah i actually think i saw that one yeah um but just as he was just recounting um this is this is what this is what uh this is what the lord warned us of uh taking place here in the last days and uh what that lady with that lady um that he was interacting with shared with him concerning his son i think we're getting ready to see this thing happen on a very very large scale and uh i can't say it enough that you know hollywood has been priming us for this thing and uh yeah um the scriptures are just so abundantly clear that as a result of men and women not actually being willing to embrace the truth they place themselves in a place where they can come or succumb to these deceptions of satan and the word of god prophesied of this and it's it's a frightening thing and i do believe that we need to spend a little bit more time warning people about it and taking time to you know explain to them the dangers of ufo how do you how do you pronounce it yeah ufology ufology ufology i don't even know but it's and new age isn't because because they all go hand in hand um a few years ago um i i had the opportunity to sit down and do an interview with a gentleman by the name of leo zagami and he's quite the spiritualist and and he's involved with a variety of different different organizations and entities that people are familiar with i'm not going to name them all right here but um i do remember when i had this
19:28 opportunity to sit down with him and interact and uh and he was sharing with me some things pertaining to the occult that he himself was involved in and a lot of his um his uh companions when the issue of uh ufos came up because i actually um rose the issue of uh raised the issue rather he he he he said you know you know that these you oppose these aliens they're nothing but fallen angels he said you know they're just demons and this is not a guy that uh that you that's going to be sitting next to you in church any any sabbath morning no and and but he he just you know he just went right to it and he began to kind of explain it from from the occult position and to just unmask the whole issue that yeah these are just demons and this is all leading to a direction of deceptive deceiving humanity so i found it quite interesting that this guy leo zagami and he's been on you know interesting programs with uh like uh what's the guy alex jones and all that stuff and um yeah but he he went right for the head on that so yeah so i i have no i have no reservations about what these uaps all are you know are are i know that they're fallen angels i just believe that now the issue is to warn people about it bring people to a point of understanding that uh um they are going to be working deceptions and i just really found that these clips that you've been sharing with me since we've been here together about how um these aliens yeah are are bringing the dead loved ones of individuals to them you know i find that just baffling and i've never heard these things before but it it just all lines up so yeah yeah 100 all lines up and um to your point about the um about these things being uh absolutely having demonic representations um it's not just christians that are are seeing these things it's not just christians that are seeing these things it's not just christians that are seeing these but there are a significant amount of people in the government and i have proof of this i'm going to show you a clip um that are coming out right now and saying the reason why we don't want to go and talk about these things because there's there's significant ties to demonic activity and they won't come out and say it directly but they lean towards that idea and and and there's there's a lot more to that but i want to show you the clip real quick please go when we started tt yes we'll ttsa back in the day we had discussions about this all the time yeah are we sure we want to bring this out i mean you know are we going to scare eight-year-olds you know um i've had friends of mine who oh my daughter wants to know all about ufos can she talk to you about it and i would say no no i'm not talking to you about this uh what am i going to tell her or him you know these little kids you know 10 11 years old yeah that uh there's a force that exists out there that can control our environment that can put thoughts in your head um that can lie to you trip you deceive you um um and that you're not in control of your life say that to a 12 year old i mean we're already saying it to a certain extent so so that was uh if i remember right that's jim semivan and he is a former cia officer um let me i'm going to bring him up here to get the exact uh information on here senior intelligence service u.s federal government 1982 to 2007 um he 25 years he spent in there and so in researching this he's coming out right now and he's saying you know the reason why we don't want to talk about these things is because uh there have been significant um uh problems around surrounding these things in fact it just came out just recently in an interview i don't have this clip but just came out that um there have been military men who have died by going up to giant glowing orbs that have landed this is crazy this is absolutely nuts and and i i mean i can't believe i'm even talking about this but this is this is on mainstream media news i'm not going to some ulterior website and they're saying there's there's a big problem going on and uh we've had uh many many not just a few men servicemen die of head injuries they have brain
24:13 trauma and we're not sure why but they go up there and they're like oh my god i'm going to die these things because they're they're close by to find out what's going on and they end up uh dead pilots have engaged them and they uh they said that um this is now i'm a preface to this this is lore but we're finding a lot of lores coming out as as true and i'm not saying this is true but you want to be very clear about that but they've said that other countries have shot at these things and their bullets are sent back to them and destroyed them and they're not saying destroy the ships and so they're they're saying what in the world is this stuff well we know as christians what these things are we're told never to engage with them only christ can engage with them these things are are very powerful more powerful than us but we have someone that's more powerful amen yeah russell not against flesh and blood i'm with you brother um um the thing yes a lot of this information that you're sharing with me now is is is brand new um as i've been looking at the news uh recently we we see an increasing amount of information coming out on this stuff and to me that's i think that's the thing that's most for me that's really impressive or pertinent to me because why now you know why so much information now why is it that the governments really want to talk about this now why is this information really being pushed out to the forefront right now and um yeah i i believe that the devil you know is really the one that is behind saying you know let's let's let's open up the x-files and you know let's let's open them up because i want people to know that um things are happening out here that uh human beings cannot explain there is there is extraterrestrial activity going on i would just say preternatural activity you know out of the natural activity that's taking place and um and uh my thoughts on this are simply that this is what's going to really get those who are more of the scientific mind yes uh or more atheists you know people of that of that ilk if i could say it that way you know people that maybe that's not the right word to use maybe that's not the best word to use it people that are of that mindset i think that's what's going to really grab them in the net because as uh chris was stating you know the lady felt the breath on her neck she she she heard or felt the heartbeat and when you're dealing with people that are of a scientific mind and that's their religion so to say then they want quantifiable evidence you want tangible evidence well there it is what are you going to say to that what are you going to say when something is interacting with you and you can feel its breath and you can hear and its heartbeat you can't deny that and and at that point whatever information is relayed to you you're going to be inclined to embrace it and it's so interesting that you know jesus tells us in the book of matthew chapter 24 that one of the most uh how can i the thing that we need to uh the thing that we need to avoid or be concerned about the most here in these last days is deception he makes that statement over and over again in matthew chapter 24 take heed that no man deceive you take heed that no man deceive you know signs and wonders will be made manifest in the heavens and they will be of such an impressive nature that if it were possible even the very elect would be deceived and um unfortunately i think that there are even people within the christian church today because they're just occupying the church but they don't have a relationship with jesus christ when these things really come to a head they're going to be swept away with these deceptions as well unfortunately but truthfully absolutely you know i've had to deal in trying to research this i've never been into ufos it's never been my my thing but when it said hey there's something something going on here it might be very spiritual i had to dig in a little bit and i was like oh and so because of that i've dug in and i have a a community of people that are fantastic they're they're helping me dig into this so i don't have to spend all my time on it because it's training and um and it's it's dark but the um one of the the lore points that we came across is something called the law of one a lot there's there's significant amount of information tying the
29:11 law of one to this ufology stuff in fact a long time ago um there was a lot of information about the law of one it was a a book now this is in the 80s i forget the exact uh date but in 80s they were trying to communicate with these ufos and uh they ended up communicating and channeling they called it channeling um something called uh they called themselves raw interesting huh it calls himself raw and so they wrote this book called the law of one and listen to what they say this is a short snippet of it from um audiobook of what they say about the the ten commandments you ready for this yeah here we go question can you tell me the origin of the ten commandments ross says the origin of these commandments follow the law of negative entities impressing information upon positively oriented mind body spirit complexes the information attempted to copy or ape positivity while retaining negative characteristics question was this done by the orion group ross says i am raw this is correct question what was their purpose in doing this ross says the purpose of the orion group as mentioned before is conquest and enslavement this is done by finding and establishing an elite and causing others to serve the elite through various devices such as the laws you mentioned and others given by this entity so it's actually a longer clip than this i thought i had the full clip but they say actually that this they claim this raw thing that they're channeling say thinking it's an alien is saying that there's another alien coming and he's evil he's the guy that is coming from orion area kind of weird that's orion area why would they call that out and then he says he's the guy who made the ten commandments and he's evil wow that was uh that was disturbing yeah this is i mean that was mind-blowing actually so so we can wow so we can literally see satan projecting his character on god and uh trying to slander the character of god and uh say that uh that the ten commandments uh they're not really the law of liberty they're the law of tyranny right to bring to bring humanity and uh to bring humanity into subjugation and slavery i i think this is just uh i mean this is so it i never knew that this type of information was out there pertaining to this subject matter but you can just see how it seamlessly just seamlessly um harmonizes with uh the great controversy motif so it's uh man this is disturbing stuff i hope people are really i am i am yeah yeah i mean everyone needs to pay attention because i mean this is going to become very very obvious very very soon and i think it kind of molds right into um revelation 16 i think it's revelation 16 talks about the three frogs like you mentioned earlier at the end of verse 13 or 15 i forget i'm gonna have to look it up it says that is it verse 14 they they they rallied the the the leadership you know the kings of the earth and the whole world for a battle against the coming of the day of of of christ i forget the exact wordage i'm gonna have to pull it up here but um isn't that interesting so so if if they're claiming that this thing is coming and you uh it's very bad and then they're saying well uh we need to fight against this thing well that's that's prophecy being being made right there that's revelation 16 14 totally these are the these are the spirits of devils working miracles which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world to gather them to the battle of that great day of god almighty that's it that's it that's it that's it gather them to the great day of god almighty what is the great day of god almighty that's the second coming of christ that's it battle of arctic have mercy and this is huge yeah i never knew that it went that ape even had something to say on the ten commandments but it makes sense you know it makes sense and once again it's very telling this it it wants it just gives further validation
33:59 to the fact that these entities are nothing more than fallen angels and they're they're on a they're on a campaign to slander the character of god and have humanity side with them in this rebellion against the the king of kings of the earth and they're on a they're on a campaign to slander the king of kings and lord of lords and uh yeah this you know this is disturbed this should disturb us as christians to realize you know this is this should disturb us as christians to see that right now the nations of all world are engaging with supernatural agents yes they said did you see that interview sorry i mean he cut you off but yeah no i don't have the i don't have the clip but the the interview the recent one came out news nation uh i'll send you the 40 minute um um news clip but they said the the former pentagon official that came out and he's saying you know i've left the pentagon and i i want to tell you what i i'm a whistleblower now and i want to talk to you talk to you about what's going on here he said that um you know i i don't know for sure i i don't i don't know how to tell how to say this this is what he said i said i don't know how to tell you this but i'd really like to know more on how the governments have made allyship with these things i'm not quoting it exactly but he says i'm not i'd like to know more information about this because he says i've over i've looked over the paperwork i've had the classified documents in my hand i've handed them over to um what is it called the gi uh the uh i forget what they call hr the guy that's supposed to uh head this up and say it's it's legitimate in the military i don't know if you've been in the military or not i don't remember the name of it but this guy um said that this is pertinent information and it's it's it's it's relevant and it needs to be uh addressed immediately and it's not just him so he said uh this is um this is something that's been going for quite a while and so it really leads you to think not only are they seeing these things out there and again i'm getting into the the supposed because we don't have a lot of proof on this yet but i think we're going to see some things come down the line here if this is absolute bible prophecy which i think it is um that um they think they're talking to these things and making allyship with them and and uh and deals with them but they're actually making deals with the devil literally yeah literally yeah there's there's a man named jacques valet who a long time ago he's dead no i think he's still alive actually he's written a lot of books on this he comes from a uh purely scientific standpoint i don't think he's even a christian but he has um researched this quite a bit and if this is to all my non-christian friends out there if you don't believe what a christian says about it i want to show you this chris this is this is fascinating what he says about it dr jacques valet has addressed the united nations on ufos and was the model for la combe in steven spielberg's close encounters of the third kind he is the author of eight books on ufos and has been widely recognized as the premier investigating scientist in the realm of UFO research.
37:27 In his book, Messengers of Deception, Vallée says, an impressive parallel can be made between UFO occupants and the popular conception of beemers. And in his book, Confrontations, he writes, the medical examinations to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. He also made this statement, I believe that when we speak of UFO sightings as instances of space visitations, we are looking at the phenomenon on the wrong level. We are not dealing with successive waves of visitations from space. We are dealing with a control system. And he states, UFOs are the means through which man's concepts are being rearranged. They are engaging in a worldwide enterprise of subliminal seduction. That was from a guy who hasn't come at this through Bible prophecy.
38:34 He's saying, I've researched this. There's something not right here. And it lines up with tales of previous tales of religious demons. Isn't that fascinating? It is. I'm always going to go right back to the word. He's in 6th and verse 12. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, against principalities, against powers, against the rules and darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. And this is the conflict that Mr. What's his name? Volley, rather. Yeah, Jacques Volley. Yeah, he's making men. So it's kind of interesting. And I think the Lord that God was able to move on his mind to give him enough insight to be able to perceive that I think this is a little bit different from what we may perceive it to be.
39:34 This is not some little green men coming from Mars. I think there's a more sinister nature than, you know, what we may perceive it to be. And, and it's, it's clear, it's clear for, for, for myself, that's exactly what it is. And once again, as I'm, I'm still over here a little bit mind blown from that, that, that audio that you, that you played a few minutes ago, uh, how they're speaking concerning the 10 commandments. And, uh, that's, that's just phenomenal to, to, to know that, uh, you know, God's word is true. God's word is true. And the devil has malicious intent against God, his word, his people, his whole objective is to deceive us into thinking that he is on our side. That's what happened in the garden of Eden, right? Genesis chapter three, the serpent tried to, uh, tried to, tried to present himself. Well, the enemy. Using the serpent as a medium. So to present himself to humanity as, as a friend, as a friend, as one that was looking out for man's best interest in that God had, uh, some, and the God was the one that had nefarious designs towards humanity.
40:55 And that he was the one that was trying to withhold us from being able to really entering into really being really experienced rather entering into a higher sphere of existence by putting his, his. his oppressive laws on us. That's what was presented to us in the Garden of Eden. And we can see this lie still being presented through Ra, aka devil, demon. It's the same old story, just repackaging it different ways for different minds. But the lie is still the same. The end game is still the same. And I thank God that he's given us his truth so that we can be able to pierce through all of these lies so that we don't have to be sucked into the devil's delusions. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I know we're running up on time here, so I don't want to keep you too long, but I have two more clips out of the umpteen that I have here that I really want to show you. This is, you've probably seen this clip before, but I find it fascinating that a long time ago in the eighties, we had- Fascinated by it. You're with me right now. You're engaged. You're like, okay, something's going on here. And there's a guy named Roger Murnau that talked about this. He was a former cultist that became Christian after his co-worker, a Christian co-worker said that you should come study with him. And he did, I think, all the Bible studies he had in like two days. And after that, he stopped worshiping these things. And it was a system of worship. He was going to- They called them. It wasn't like they were going to Satan worshipers. He says they were literally going and saying, we are worshiping fallen angels and they manifest to us and they appear. And he says, this was a big deal. And so he said, but he said something fascinating in his three and a half hours testimony that he has on YouTube. Watch this. And the priest told us- Could I have a bit more of your time? I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grain plain, the message- The grain plain, the message- The grain plain for harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the Greek controversy between the forces of good and evil. So he continued after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said, it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain is going to take people, people are going to eat the stuff because it says spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five different worlds. And he said, it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain is going to take people, people are going to eat the stuff because it says spirits, demons, THEM AND THEM all know about the existence are going to eat it. And then the verse says, something popular is done avoid it. See just of the other east tongues, angel's God is � scaffold the name of the Lord. this and this guy is, and I like to begin with scripture alone because this guy, he has a fascinating tale, but what we base our, our, our, our truth on is the Bible.
44:10 but it is also fascinating that he has been in an occult system in montreal canada and he said his priest his his pastor told him the satanic priest pastor he said that this whole grand deception is going to start with extraterrestrial threat isn't that fascinating it is yeah well in some sense it is an extraterrestrial threat it's it's not of this world as as i stated again in ephesians 6 and verse 12 this is not flesh and blood we're dealing with but uh you know it's it's it's not of the it's not of the steven spielberg you know spectrum it's it's it's it's straight out of the bible you know it's straight out of the bible it's not uh it's not independence day stuff it's not predator stuff it's straight out of the bible this is it it's uh we're dealing with revelation chapter 12 and verse 9 and the great dragon was cast out that old serpent called the devil and satan which deceived the whole world he was cast out into the earth and these angels were cast out with him that's what we're dealing with the devil and his host of fallen angels how many there may be i don't know but i know the word of god tells us that there was a demoniac that had a legion of demons in him and we know that's a good thousand or so so you know you think the devil has a thousand demons to fallen angels to spear with for one man how many of them are running rampant on planet earth and uh we're dealing with a very serious situation i'm just thankful that god has given us his truth because that's that's our that's our shield and our sword that's our anchor and we have to build on that there's a verse and i can't remember what it is that says that satan is the the prince of the air he broke up oh there's a verse that talks about um satan being the prince of the air i think it's a prince of the air the prince of the air the spirit which now worketh in the children of disobedience yeah yeah fascinating so that is uh ephesians 2 2 i think so yeah there he is so it tells you and and i don't have time tonight to show you everything but there's also clips of the government saying these things uh we don't have any record of them coming into the atmosphere so we think that it's all based here and we it's something they're claiming to be something interdimensional because we they can't figure out that it's from a long ways away because they are watching that stuff they said we have cameras up there nasa is constantly watching we can't find anything coming into the atmosphere so we think it's located here already we know there it is no it's here that's it i mean that's it that's it i i it's so interesting um so i have one more go ahead okay no no please play the clip and i'll slow it down so to cover all my bases i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna throw a cog in into all this real quick and i believe that these things are going to play two sides they're going to play good cop bad cop they're going to present themselves as the good guys and they're going to bring the good guys and they're going to bring the bad guys and they're going to present themselves as the bad guys and i this this is just the theory so i just want to because i had no basis for this yet but as we are researching we call this this channel the strange normal research group because we are researching this stuff and trying to see how all this fits together and um what we found was a clip this is this is interesting from christian broadcasting network that says that these things are helping in the ukraine check this out a pillar of fire at ukraine we've got a video showing right now that it's a fire that's like a bomb that's like a bomb yeah it looks like some kind of fire that's like a bomb in the sky some kind of a bomb right there you can see something like that that looks like a really good test that's like the super general 709 bomb and we're just trying to figure out how it's going to connect with the sirius one okay let's still watch the clip see how well it's going to connect it it's going to be very soon and i'll turn it off yeah let's hear from the chad sir i'm with the chad sir i'm with the chad And like sparks were going, were like spreading everywhere.
48:51 A group of Russian tanks were supposedly wiped out by a mystery UFO attack after the families of trapped Ukrainian soldiers prayed to God to offer their troops some help. And then on the morning, they discovered that the whole machinery was destroyed. Yeah, it's bizarre. And then the next morning, they woke up and they said all the equipment from the Russians was destroyed. Well, UFO attacks on Russian tanks, if only. Although in this case, God is real and UFOs are real, as the Pentagon has confirmed. So I don't want to go too far and say that this wasn't God calling and helping them out. But at the same time, they said they saw UFOs. I find that fascinating because they're putting UFOs and help together and then saying that this was an act of God.
49:50 And so what happens then if something comes and helps us during a dire time of need and then we can't say that these things are bad because they've helped us throughout something? I don't know. We'll see what happens. Of course. And now he positions himself as a friend. Yeah, it's just like, I mean, I just keep on going back to these things. The same thing in the Garden of Eden. The serpent came to Eve as a friend, you know, and same thing as Jesus stated. Well, he stated that the Spirit of God stated to his servant Paul that Satan can transform himself into an angel of light.
50:39 So he can come as though he's a minister of light, you know, as if he's coming to assist humanity as a benevolent being. That's how he's going to try to perpetrate. Yeah. He's going to promote himself as a benevolent being. That's for the purpose of pushing deception. Yeah. So when I see that clip, I just see that the groundwork is really being laid firmer than I even knew through this, you know, these UAP phenomenon. And yeah, even in the Ukraine conflict, enemies, he's taking advantage of these, these things in more ways than one. So it's, it's, it's this, this serious times that we're living in, but the Lord, the Lord forewarned us.
51:31 I'm thankful for it. Absolutely. I appreciate you coming on the show, Chris. I know you're a busy man and taking time to come out and, and, and at least humor me about this fascinating topic that I think that more Christians should, should, should at least ask their pastor about and look into, because this is, this is something that I think that is very relevant to our time and will actually make the Bible very relevant too. Amen. And you know what? I don't even, um, I don't even like that you use the word humor Jew for this as if, as if, you know, as, as if it's a light subject, because very clearly from the information that you've just been sharing with me and everyone else that's going to be watching this, this is, this is viable information. It, it, it clearly plays into the fulfillment of promise. And I think that we do need to be informed so that we can be able to address the questions that are going to be coming from all different directions concerning this subject matter, because it's becoming abundantly clear that men that are not of a religious, you know, leaning are having real interactions with real supernatural entities.
52:51 And we, we need to be able to provide real answers to help people understand what it is they're dealing with and how they should deal with these situations correctly. So, um, yeah, I, I, if I could just close with the scripture as I always love to, um, yeah, second Timothy where the second Timothy three in verse one, I believe it is, uh, if I say it wrong right now, I'm a little bit tired, but it's okay, but it says now the spirit speaketh expressly. That in the latter times, meaning the last day, some shall depart from the faith, giving heat to seducing spirits and the adoption of devils. And I believe that's what's going on. And unfortunately people are going to be removed from the word of God as well, because instead of really rooting and grounding themselves in the unchanging word of God, they've been building a belief system that's based off of those things that they can feel those things that they can see. Yeah. The entire time. And it takes more than a hundred years to, to become aware of that. Yeah. But it's going to be, it's going to be a time when it's going to be more scary by going to that end up having some kind of a belief system or race or religion, or having a scientific mindset, that's totally divorced from the word of God, because there's nothing wrong with signs. But when you, when you divorce science from the word of God, then you, you start making an idol out of something that really leads you to nothing.
54:07 Um, but, uh, if you're of that mindset where science is your God, you believe yourself to be a Christian, but you don't found your belief, holy on the word of God, you found your belief system on signs and wonders and manifestations. Yeah. this thing right here is going to take you away. So you really need to be, as Jesus says, the wise man that's a hearer and doer of his word so that you can be builded on the rock for the storm that's coming. Absolutely, Chris. I appreciate your time. Can you pray us out? Oh, definitely. Father in heaven, I really thank you, Lord, for this information that you're bringing to the forefront and not just information, but I thank you, God, that you've given us your word so that we can understand exactly what it is that we're seeing, who is behind this, and how we can move forward in this world that is right now being bombarded with this deception. Please help us, dear God, to just give you our hearts day by day. If we're not studying the scriptures, help us to understand what we're seeing. If we're not studying the scriptures, help us to understand what we're seeing. If we're not studying the scriptures, help us to study your word. If we believe your word, if we don't believe in the Bible, I just pray that you would agitate the hearts of people to be curious to start looking into the scriptures. And as they look into the scriptures with a heart that is truly seeking after truth, please fulfill your promise for you said, you shall seek me and you shall find me if you search me with all of your heart. Thank you for hearing these petitions, all things we ask in the precious name of Jesus. Amen.