🚨Chris Bledsoe Debunked? New Prophetic Attempt, Vatican Assassination

0:06 There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else.

1:07 The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of NASA is to explore the universe. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What, I guess, in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you is real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official. Bill, saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. He told me, he said, Bill, I want you to stop doing this. I said, OK, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is.

1:59 He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic, and we should not be pursuing them. The showings of the angels or the showings of God, always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today we see this as, we see these as, we call them UFOs. A pillar of fire at night and confused Russian troops. It has some asking, are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help? There's some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a lightning was starting shooting from the sky. And I like sparks were going well, like spreading everywhere.

2:56 And then they on the morning, they discovered that the whole the whole machinery was destroyed. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis and brain damage. The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension of ghosts and other spirits. And all that. report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished cases, whatever that means. Lou Elizondo. My name is Matthew Roberts. I was a cryptologic technician in the U.S. Navy for 16 years. I found myself watching the footage over and over again, almost obsessively. I started to have these follow-on experiences with the phenomenon. That was like the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night. Because my job was classified and I had access to classified, I was kind of aware this was not a one-off event. For the Navy, these things happen frequently, all the time. They happen all the time.

4:29 Barbara Bethalik, Whitley Strever, both of them, before I came across one, they had interviewed people that part of what they experienced was encountering a former live relative. In other words, they were encountering a dead relative on the craft. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. We're now less than 16 minutes away. I was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade and after my conversion, if you will, I felt it, I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus' name, get it away from me. And never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination? To be perfectly honest, a demon. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts?

5:41 I don't. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders. And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke and it's repeated in the book of Acts chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. And define what that acronym is. Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. And so the government has had, and this has been in the news very recently, have had lots of trouble with this. I, in my own time, was studying this stuff at the same time in California.

6:36 And so both of us, separately, without communicating, were studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here. Since this is out, it's in Congress, and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Something weird is going on here. Absolutely. I saw the little documentary you guys put together like that. It's very eye-opening. The belief in UFOs is now a new global belief system. It's different than a religion, but it's religious-like. The person in the sky today is what they believe to be like advanced technology. Whereas a thousand years ago, they would think maybe that's an angel or maybe that's a demon. Today, they look up and they say, well, that's a UFO. When a person has an experience, say they see a UFO, they're different afterwards. I know this sounds really strange, but the relationship to the cosmos changed for these people.

7:31 Almost like a religious conversion experience. It changes their worldview. It changes the way they work. It changes their relationships to people. It fundamentally, completely changes them. And it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. My name is Tom DeLonge. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for the world. For why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. When people start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, the term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon.

8:23 And that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men in flying saucers and tinfoil hats. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people. It's coming from the highest places. There is a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man. Period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. We've passed the 11 minute mark. Now T minus 10 minutes 54 seconds on our countdown.

9:11 But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome. And he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanzaniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning. But there is information coming from another world. And once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it. Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized.

10:04 And apparently, that invite extends even to Martians. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy, then terrorists would be identified. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. And the next enemy was asteroids. And the funniest one of all was against what he called alien. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card.

11:05 And remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is alive. Are there other religions, I'm curious, David, that you know of in all the research that you've done that are more open to the idea? Yeah, I would say there are. You know, Hindus and Buddhists, you know, Tibetans or whatnot, the idea of extraterrestrial life and things like that, I think they have no problem with that. And UFOs, particularly in Hindu and Buddhist tradition. They have UFOs. UFOs have been flying around for thousands of years, according to them. They call them Vimanas. They have whole texts about it. And so that's the other thing, say, with the Vatican, too, is that UFO sightings have been going on for thousands of years.

12:01 Mormons as well believe in extraterrestrial life. And, I mean, they are also a religion that wouldn't have any problems with that. I think a lot of, you know, modern-day religions don't have a problem. They don't have a problem with life on other planets. You solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God. You are saying to the human race, for the first time, an official intelligence representative at a high level from the U.S. government is saying publicly, we are not alone. We're definitely not alone. Absolutely, the data points empirically that we're not alone, yeah. The inspector general made a determination about the credibility of your complaint. They found, after interviewing myself and the subjects and other subjects that I'm not even cognizant of who they were, they found my complaint urgent and credible for the intelligence committees.

13:01 Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. Have human beings been hurt or killed by a non-human intelligence? While I can't get into the specifics because that would reveal certain U.S. classified operations, I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were malevolent events like that. So let me be very clear about this. You're saying that the Catholic Church, the Vatican, they know about the existence of non-human intelligence on this planet? Certainly. I would couch it as non-human intelligence, you know, NHI, like we would like to say in our language. Why do you say that? Why do you say NHI?

13:51 I don't want to necessarily denote origin. I don't think we have all the data to say, oh, they're coming from a certain location. Who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names. Right. What agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. I think that, I think they are very real, but I think what is your idea of reality? That's the question.

14:48 You see that the DOD and NASA even, they're all hiring physicists to work on this UFO issue. And that's not where the truth of this lies. This lies more within the realm of the humanities, within the realm of psychology, philosophy, religious studies. That's where you're going to find the truth of this. But I don't think these are people from another planet. I still think these are what people call angels. I think they're messengers. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. We're now passing the four minute, 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. So in reality, Roger, you were chosen by high powered demon spirits to be a part of their human special privilege, a special privileged group.

15:48 He says we are the elite. We know the real truth about the master and his angels. And the priest told us, could I have a little bit more of your time? I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grand plan for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause, just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grand plan is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff. Because he says spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. It was a big thing that was coming up. One of the major deceptions of the last days. Boy, oh boy, do we have a major episode to air tonight. You guys are prepared. This is going to be a good one. This is one you want to share.

16:47 I'm glad this is happening at the end of the year. Because this is a good time to share with your friends, your family, and everybody. Because this is something that everyone's going to be talking about soon. And you'll find out why here very soon. Talk to you very soon. T minus three minutes and counting. T minus three. We are go with all elements of the mission at this time. We've just passed the two minute mark in the countdown. T minus one minute, 54 seconds and counting. All indications coming in to the control center at this time indicate we are go. Guidance system goes on internal at 17 seconds leading up to the ignition sequence at 8.9 seconds.

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20:04 Welcome, welcome back to Strange Normal. My name is Bradley. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And in this episode, this Sunday night episode, we typically talk about UFOs, the UFO and UAP thing that's happening right now. And primarily the reason for that. And I'm going to get into this a little bit further than I normally do because this is a very special episode. We're going to talk about something that, I mean, it's just bizarre. And we're going to go deep, deep, deep dive into it and try to figure out what's going on here. In this episode, before I introduce my guest tonight, I want to talk a little bit about this. We have a documentary out called Starfall. Starfallmovie.com.

20:54 If you haven't seen it, you need to go watch it. But I want to dig further into that just a little bit more than I normally do so that people that are just now listening understand where we're coming from. We are going to explore different aspects of what could be happening here. But our main priority, usually what I like to do, is come at this with, hey, we're coming down with a major deception. Major deception. Yeah, sometimes people lie. Yeah, sometimes people do wrong things. And sometimes we're going to get things wrong. Absolutely. We're exploring this. The whole channel is Strange Normal Research Group. We're trying to figure this out. But let me tell you what the Bible says. And there's many different reasons, not only in the Bible, why we believe this. This is a deception. Here you go. The Bible says primarily, Jesus said, at the end of time, the disciples said, hey, tell us about the things that are going to come at the end of time.

21:49 And Jesus said, don't be very aware of the deception of the last days. He said that knowing what's going to happen and also knowing that how does Satan utilize his major deception. Well, he uses deception. He uses visual deceptions. He uses audible deceptions. That's what he did in the Garden of Eden. He appeared as a snake. He's going to appear as something else at the end of time. You're going to see it, too. We also have occultists, former occultists, that have said this. And they have said that this will be a part of the end of time. And you saw that in the intro happening right there. He said that this whole thing will, they'll declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets that have come to earth to tell us about the end of time. To tell us about something, to do something, or else there'll be impending disasters of some kind.

22:36 Right? That's interesting, too. And I also follow a woman's writings named Ellen Gould White, and I believe she's a prophet. She said some very, very fascinating things about this. She said, fearful sights of supernatural character will soon be revealed in the heavens, taken of the power of miracle-working demons. The spirits of devils will go forth to the kings of the earth and to the heavens. And to the whole world to fasten them in deception and urge them to unite with Satan in his last struggle against the governments of heaven. By these agencies, rulers and subjects will be like deceived. And then she goes on further and says, the miracle-working power manifested through this spiritualism. Back then, there wasn't the term for alien. She saw this, and it was in the 1800s, and she said, it's spiritualism, whatever it is.

23:28 These miracle-working power manifest through spiritualism will exert its influence against those who choose to obey God rather than men. Who is it coming after? It's coming after God's people. And so that's, we don't all go to the same church on this channel. We're a multi-denominational channel. We believe that we are, there is a sheep in every fold. There's not one absolute, but there will be a decision at the end of time on to which path people are going. But right now, we're trying to figure this out. And so many people have come together. We've joined our Discord, and we discuss this constantly, and we bring you the most interesting topics. Now, that's a long-winded way to say, this is a fascinating topic, and we're exploring it right now.

24:15 And we're happy to have you on the ride with us. So let's dig into it. Let me introduce our guest tonight, Matthew. How are you? Hello, I'm doing well. Glad to be here this evening. Very good. Matthew, we're going to go over Bledsoe tonight. I'm sure you know already, but it's going to be fascinating. Yes. Yes, it should be. I think that Chris Bledsoe has a pretty fantastic story to tell. And we have to ask ourselves going in here, is what he's saying legitimate? Are these experiences something that he's actually undergone? And I've puzzled this out in my head, and I've come to a conclusion. And it's essentially the same conclusion I have towards fortune tellers. So if you go to a fortune teller, one of two things is taking place.

25:05 Either the person actually has some interaction with a demonic power, and it allows them to give these predictions or have certain insights into the person's life. Or they are lying. They're a hoaxer and a fraud. And if it's that second option, you still don't want anything to do with them. Because that spirit of lying, of treachery, and also exploiting people who are vulnerable. Because just like people who go to fortune tellers, I believe people who look into the Bledsoe case and they want meaning from UAP, they're vulnerable. Spiritually, they are vulnerable. They have that God-sized hole, and they're looking to fill it with something. Either way, when we look at this, it is satanically charged. That's the stance that I take on it. And it's really just a question of, are the Bledsoes victims?

26:00 Are they victimizing others? Or is it a combination of both? Because we know that the Bible tells us that people will end up deceiving, and they themselves will be deceived. So I'm just excited to take a look at these clips that you have, because I haven't seen them. I purposefully have avoided them, because I knew you were chopping them up. So I wanted to have a fresh take on it. And see what it's all about. There's quite a bit of buzz about it, actually. Not just in the normal realms, I think. More and more people seem to be talking about it. Which is funny, because I predicted that Chris Bledsoe and his family would kind of come to more of the forefront, or at least be a little more infamous than they were back when we first covered his story. What do you think, Brett? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I'm listening to you. I'm also watching the chat.

26:49 And they're saying your audio is getting lower and lower, so I'm raising you back up. That's why I was disconnected there for a second, trying to make sure I could focus on what they could hear you. No worries. We're working with a new microphone tonight. So if there are a little bit of audio inconsistencies, that's the reason. We're just getting it smoothed out. It's going to take a show, probably, to get the levels where we want them. But yeah, just give us feedback in the live chat. Really do appreciate that. Absolutely. You know, I totally agree with what you're saying. And we need to dig further. Let's hear it from his own words. But first, for everyone that hasn't known or doesn't know who Bledsoe is, I'm going to do a little introduction that he's going to explain.

27:34 This is from a podcast called Danny Jones. And he recently went on there and did a three and a half hour podcast or talk with him. I think actually more like four hours. And the day before that, they went out to see these things in the sky and things were appearing. Supposedly. I mean, the host even says so. So I think that's interesting. A little piece of knowledge. Because why would someone that is completely unbiased about it say, this is strange. What's going on here? Further into that, though, let's dig into what he's saying. Because this guy, he's a Christian. He's seeing things. He doesn't go to church anymore. But let's see why and what happened here. We're going to discuss major points of this.

28:23 So first, the introduction. And then we'll get right back to it. So to sort of give you an introduction, Chris, out of all the people that I've talked to involved in this phenomenon, I have a lot of people on the podcast before who have spoken about it and studied it for years. And it seems to be the consensus that you are one of the most, if not the most, credible person that has ever experienced this phenomenon. As I told you earlier, my friend Andy Bustamante, who was here a couple weeks ago, was telling me that through all of his experience filming that show that he was doing for History Channel, the Beyond Skinwalker show, the night that he spent with you witnessing those orbs in the sky, out of everything else, he said that was the one thing that stuck out to him the most. And it was the one thing that was true. It was truly unexplainable and real at the same time. There's more people in the government and aerospace scientists that seem to be really interested in you. The CIA, DIA, FBI, NRO, and even the Vatican seem to be very interested in you.

29:37 And they also seem to have their hands in this. So can you go ahead and explain how this whole thing started for you? I mean, I know you've told a bunch of the stories before. On other podcasts, and your book goes through it very well, UFO of God. Incredible book. Thank you. Incredible book. Pause it right there just for a second. Let's go back and talk about this. So what he's saying right now is that he knows that, and he's going to elaborate on that in a little bit, but he knows that a lot of these people are very interested in what he has to say about a few things. And he's met a lot of these people. He has pictures with a lot of these people, these government people that are a part of this whole thing. And so I imagine that a normal man who's making stories up isn't going to just have all these images and meet all these UFO researchers and government officials.

30:43 I mean, he might, out of a chance. But you'd think that to reduce the talk, that these people would want to squash that and say, no, we don't want to know what Bledsoe is. Because he's become such a big deal. Most, let me tell the rest of the audience, I think Matthew knows already. Right now, at least this last week or so, most of the views on this channel have come from keywords on Bledsoe. Most of the views. He's become quite a big deal in this field. And people are really wondering, what is this guy all about? And you're going to find out very soon why that is. Any thoughts before we continue? Just about the people that he's met and that he has contact with. The way that I found out about Chris Bledsoe was actually through an interview with a man called Jim Semivan.

31:34 And Jim Semivan specifically mentioned Chris and some of the miraculous experiences that he had. And I said, well, okay, I better take a look at this. Jim Semivan is a former CIA. He's a former CIA officer. He is also associated with To the Stars, which is a joint venture between him and Tom DeLonge. That's the singer and guitarist from Blink-182, who now has the band Angels and Airwaves. Recently did a movie as well, Monsters of California, I believe it was called. We covered that as well on the channel. So there is this community almost that's interconnected. And we've been through this channel just over the years. And through this channel, just over a year now, looking at these different connections, seeing how do these people know each other and network with each other. And there does seem to be a level of you need to be so credible to be a part of this club.

32:30 And for whatever it's worth, Chris Bledsoe is an associate of these people. And they seem to find him credible. So only time will really tell. We'll see some more of what he's got to tell us. Absolutely. Let's actually get further into that, too. Because this is where it all gets started. And I think you're going to have a lot to say about this, Matthew. I've heard you. I can already hear your comments in your head. Let's get into the traumatic experience that started this whole thing. You ready? Oh, I'm ready. We finished the job. We got you a check. And we want to celebrate. Can you take us fishing today? And this is how it all started. This is one of the most important things in the world for anybody to know about this phenomenon. 17 years, nearly, of research that I've been doing.

33:20 It came because I was in the worst suffering way. I was at the bottom, ready to give up on life. I was crying out to whoever's up there. Help me. I'm 45, 46 years old, and I have to get free lunches at school now for my children. And just moving out of a million-dollar home with a pool in the back. My kids have lived within that standard for most of their life. Pause it right there for a second. So what did he say? I have sped it up to 1.5. And I apologize for anybody that has trouble listening at that speed. But Bledsoe, he taught Chris. I'm going to call him Chris from now on. Chris Bledsoe. He has a cadence about him and long pauses. And the sheer amount of information I'm trying to pack into this episode is so much that I need to speed it up a little bit to actually get through. But I think you can understand that he was saying that he has...

34:08 He was... His wife was a real estate agent. He was a contractor. They were doing 80 homes a year building these things. And then something happened. And I won't go into all those details because it's long. But basically he lost a lot of stuff. And he had to cry out. And he was crying out to God. Saying, you know, what's going on? Please help me. And it was a traumatic experience. To say the least. He goes into more detail there. But Matthew, I've heard you say some stuff about this before. What are your thoughts on this? About traumatic experiences and how it has the potential to open spiritual doors? Yeah. Well, I think that it's from a personal experience and just from listening to other people's testimonies and experiences.

34:58 When you undergo a traumatic event, essentially what happens is Jesus is going to knock at the door. And the devil and his minions are going to be busting out the windows. That's how it works. And in that moment, I think you have an opportunity to make a choice and to go with one or the other. It's almost similar to Job and how he had his experience where he lost so much. He had been through so much trauma. He arrived at a place where he could either deepen his relationship with God, get to know him better. Because he was confused. He didn't understand what's going on to me. Can I get an answer here? I don't know if everything was good with my relationship with you, God. Or he could have taken his wife's advice who told him to curse God and die. But he didn't choose to curse God and die. He chose to seek out answers.

35:50 And he received the answers from the Lord. And it says that his end was better than his beginning. And I think hearing Chris describe financial loss, that's immediately where my mind went to. Because in addition to suffering some very personal losses. Job, from the beginning. From the Bible. He also did suffer massive financial loss. All of his herds and his livelihood was destroyed. So it's sad to hear that he went through something like that. I'm guessing that it was when the housing market crashed. Is that right? Around that time? I do remember him saying dates. I don't remember the exact date. He'll say it in here though. Okay. We'll talk a little bit more and hear what happened exactly.

36:40 Yeah, so all that started with traumatic experience. He's going to go into his story. And we're going to break it into four different parts. First part is about the fisherman. Second is about his wife's death, which is very interesting. I had not heard this part before. And then we will talk about how he believes that they said that they're here to help. And then we'll talk about where he says that people... Or that he's shown that these things are healers. And that he's become a healer. This is something that's very interesting. That's a very important point that we'll bring out in just a moment. But let's first get into the story of how this whole thing started. When I got near the top of that hill, I noticed what I thought was the sun setting. It's about 10 after 5, 515 in the evening in January. So it gets dark, you know, about 530. The sun sets. And four or five more steps up that hill.

37:36 And that's when the shock came. I began to see a second one. Instead of what I thought was the sun, the top edge of it. When I made a few more steps up, I could see the top edge of two suns. And I knew right then that this wasn't anything that we had. And the reason I knew that instantly is because I'm a commercial rated pilot. And I have studied it all my life and love it. And I can name every airplane from World War II to today. Pretty much. And so shock came real quick. I'm afraid what I'm looking at. So I dropped the plane. I dropped to my knees using the hill to hide me from these objects. Thought I was hiding. And so I sat there. And I kind of crawled out of the road to the ditch. Because the weeds were real tall in the ditch. And so I buried myself in these weeds. And I start crawling, inching up the hill to where I could see. And I peek my head up and they're still there. I begin to ponder everything I'm looking at.

38:26 And my son and these guys behind me fishing. I thought maybe I should get back down to where they are. When I made that decision, I was thinking about it. But when I turned my body to actually run, I looked back one more time when I stood up to see if they were there. And when I did that, a third one. Same thing, same size. 40 foot, 50 foot round, blood red to orange balls of fire. Just what we saw on the water last night. One of those looked like it had come up out of the water that she found. And so the next thing I remember is walking up to the fire. Trotting up. They couldn't see me because they're standing around the fire. And it's burnt down to a little campfire now. And we had a big blazing fire there when I left. You won't believe what I just saw at the top of the hill. And they looked at me and said, where have you been? I said, what do you mean, where have I been? I was just up at the top of the hill just 20 minutes ago. And they said, no, you've been going all night.

39:14 And I realized Chris Jr. was missing. And so I kind of freaked out. Worried about him because I knew the direction they pointed. He went in the back of the cul-de-sac along the bank of the Cape River, which is real rugged and valleys and big trees. And it's just a place you can get lost real easy. And he was in there looking for me. So I took off immediately and ran to the back of that cul-de-sac. Shouting for him. Still not understanding that I've been gone but 20 minutes, right? To me, that's what had just passed. And when I found him, he was in shock. He was laying on his stomach and had backed up under the undergrowth in the back of that cul-de-sac. He wouldn't answer me until I almost stepped on him. I'm trying to get in the woods to look for him. No flashlight. And what had happened with Chris Jr. was when about an hour after I was gone, he realized that I should have been back by now. It was dark. I couldn't find my dad.

40:06 Where's he at? So they got in the truck and drove looking for me. Left one guy at the fire and two guys in my truck drove up and down, across the field, out on the highway. They went everywhere looking for me. Chris Jr. went on foot into the cul-de-sac because I had actually walked in there for a little while before I went up to the field. And he had, what he saw, what he said he saw, was he could see all the way down the road, the path, from the back of that cul-de-sac to where it turned and went up the hill. Probably a quarter mile view of that road. And the trees grow over the road, so it's like a tunnel. You know, you come through real thick stuff. And while he was looking at me, he saw a red ball of light, like an orb. He described two red balls of light across the road, way up, about a, you know, a little less than a quarter mile. And they went in on the riverside. So he ran back to the fire, which is toward the orbs, right? He had to run back toward them. And they were sitting on the bank, so the road parallels the river. And they were part of the way ahead of him. On the right, right on the bank. So he runs up there and he tells them what he saw. You know, you know, don't, what are you doing, Junior?

41:04 They took it as a joke, right? This grown man saying, you're messing with us, Junior. Don't mess with us. So he runs back to the back of the cul-de-sac again, looking for me. And he sees these same two balls of light come out of the riverside now, back out in the road. And here they come to and towards him. So he began to back hide. He tried to hide. So he backs himself up under this rub. So around the field, if you're familiar with my area and even here, the edges of any field is really thick, undergrowth. You got all this thick stuff. Once you get in the forest, it opens up, right? You can hide under this thick stuff. And what he described, when I was walking him back to the fire, was that these two balls of light came all the way to him. The closer he got, the more he got afraid. Then he started hiding. And they got about 15, 20 feet from him. And there were two little beings about three feet tall. They had red glowing eyes. So they looked like individual orbs when you saw them. But when they were closer, two little eyes about this big. And he couldn't shout. He couldn't scream.

41:56 He was paralyzed the whole time. He was laying there, just afraid. And so I took him back to the fire. And the guys were freaked out now. They were really freaked because what I was talking about, I'd seen up at the top of the hill. And what Chris Jr. is talking about now, it got them even more distressed. Suddenly, one of the guys shouts, Look! And we all look up to the heavens. And it looked like eight or nine stars or orbs, like you saw last night. They were white. They were glowing, huge and white. And they just went around in circles. Like they were chasing one another. And they'd go out and come back together. And then three of them landed in front of us, about 75 yards away across the river. And they came and sat in. We ran lift poles in the water, coolers, everything they had, we just left it. Jumped in my truck and took off out of there. And when we got back to the top of the hill, where I was looking, where I was hiding, well, the same three orbs were sitting there.

42:46 Two of them are in the same spot. But the third one that appeared and came down is now on the road in front of us. It's just about 150 yards away between us and the highway. And we couldn't drive forward. We didn't want to go back because we just left three on the riverbank. And so you can imagine the fear that was in my truck. He was in bad shape. These three guys were freaked out bad. But the weird thing, Danny, was I wasn't afraid anymore. I'd lost all my fear somehow. I was curious. I wanted to get out and walk up to it. But they won't have any part of that. And that was one weird thing I couldn't figure out is it took my fear away. I was afraid when I first went up and saw it to run down the hill. But as it appeared again, I was mesmerized. I wasn't afraid, but they were terrified. There was everything happening from crying to this is the last time I see my family. Now we're sitting up in my truck, five of us, with this object sitting in the road halfway to the road.

43:38 And two up over the road. And suddenly we heard three gunshots. We don't know who was shooting. Mufon and everybody investigated that. They went around the neighborhoods looking for witnesses. And they found eight different witnesses. Hal Bobbemeyer from NASA found and interviewed eight different people that saw it that night. They were sitting on the porch when it flew over or whatever. So after the gunshots, this object in the road, it's not sitting on the road. It's about five feet off the road. It's about 40 to 50 foot long. It looks like an egg, or it looks like if you took a round ball, or let's say a raindrop, and you set it on the ground, and it just kind of flattens out, kind of egg-shaped. It orbs around in the sky, but when it's sitting on the ground, it looks like a football. And it just pivots. It don't turn, it don't lean, it just pivots straight at us. And here it comes down the road to us. So it goes right over our truck, again, to the north, and it blasts off like a gunshot at poof.

44:36 I took off. Couldn't go fast enough for these guys. They were screaming, yelling. What I've learned about this is that they can put fear in you. These beings can control what you think. So they can make you afraid, make you go a different direction if they don't want you here, right? They can put fear into you. I'm just repeating what I was told. That last clip about the feeder I added on the end is actually part of a further down in the story, because number one, and I've been writing things down as I listen to it, because this is a really fascinating story. Number one, what do we see in the Bible when we see angelic representations? Lots of times they're referred to as the stars of the heavens. They're referred to as these bright, glowing things.

45:29 Their feet were as fire, their clothing was as lightning. You have a lot of descriptive, very bright essences about these things. So it's interesting to see what he's talking about here when he says not only did they have different light presences around, but when he saw them up in the sky they were like stars going around. Now, I think it's obvious, I think that, again, if he's telling the truth, what he's seeing is demonic representations. Right now, we don't know what, if they're the good or the bad, but we're gonna just assume since they are causing fear, and sometimes they are taking that away, then they might not be benevolent. I think what's going on here, though, is that we've seen in the past, when we've done videos about this, that when someone has a demonic presence that appears to them. I did a video about a satanic priest one time that he prayed to see Jesus, and it was not just to see Jesus, but it was to expand his satanic influence. And so it wasn't from the heart. And something appeared to him, as Jesus, and he said that he felt absolutely terrified by it. And then he felt love. He felt pure love. These things, they absolutely, the demonic realm and angels have the ability to cause emotions in us. And I think that's very interesting.

47:11 It's something we see over and over and over again on this channel, is the loss of time, the emotions, and these glowing, glowing things. I think that's indicative of what he's talking about. Do you have any thoughts on that, Matthew? Well, yes, many things came to mind. It was a very dense clip, I'll say that. One of the things that I want to take note of is early, he described going up on the hill, and he had this weird moment where he felt like, oh, I should leave. And then he decided he was going to look back. Again, it's just bringing me to another instance, biblically, of Lot's wife, who they were instructed when they were leaving Sodom, not to look back at the destruction that was happening, but she looked back. And it wasn't just a look back out of, oh, there's loud noises. What's going on over there? It's a longing. It's, I look back to see that city where I lived, and I actually loved being a part of the sin that was in that city, and that was ultimately her demise. And Chris is describing, I felt like I should go, but then I decided I want to look back because I'm curious. And then later on, he's describing, the fear had left me. I was more mesmerized than anything. I wanted more.

48:31 It's almost like he took a sip of that wine, and he just wanted to have more of that experience because it was giving him some sort of fulfillment. I think it's false fulfillment. At the end of the day, they're just going to run you around in circles. They're going to flash lights at you all day and give you these weird ideas and give you a sense of grandeur, when in reality it's like, what is the purpose here? Having this type of an experience, I don't know how and you've said that he calls him a Christian. He still calls himself Christian? That's his classification to this day? Did I do that? Let me get that back. Okay. Did we just disappear for a second? Okay, we're back now. Yeah, no, it was the video. Still frames the video, no problem. But he still claims to be a Christian?

49:23 That's my question. Yeah, from what I understand, he still claims to be a Christian. From the social media I've followed, I don't know exactly. I haven't heard him say it, but I've heard him talk about church, and I've heard him talk about how he isn't allowed to go back and talk about what he's talking about here at church and his small town. But we'll get into that further, because I have a video of him talking about that. Okay, that's good. It'll be nice to know. But just overall, you have to wonder when you have an experience like the one he's describing, at least this initial experience, how is it edifying? How does this spiritually bring you further into a relationship with God? It's like a light show, and it's scaring people senseless, which I'm not going to say. Angels appearing to people, that has definitely caused fear, but there's always this mark. If it's an angel from God, they say fear not. They put you at ease, because there's almost an understanding that having this being who inhabits heaven, it is going to be radiant with holy light, and it's just...

50:33 I would be scared to see that too. But then to have it reassure you and say it's okay, I'm here from God, here is a message, and here is whatever the information is going to further your relationship with God, and you can compare it to the Bible, and you'll go from there. I just don't see this as something that happened, and it's almost like that initial... You know those fish that are in the deep sea, the angler fish? They have a little light on the end, and they dangle the light, and they hide in the shadow, and you just approach the light, and you're so fixated on the light, these little fish, and then the big fish pops out and just devours them, and there's no resistance because they were just so enamored by the glow, and I feel like this is that initial encounter with the glow of the angler fish. Yeah, and he gets further into it and talks about what their message actually is here very soon, but first they talk to him about something else that happened to his wife. Well, check this out. Halfway down that road to the first house we had to stop, two and a half miles away, halfway in there is this curve, this really sharp curve, Dead Man's Curve.

51:47 I grew up that curve. Everybody in our community knew about that curve, and it was so sharp, if you tried to go around it more than 35, the car just bound up. You could feel it on the edge of losing control, and the crazy thing is in that curve, shoot, 1982, 81, I was married to a different lady that died. She died in that curve, and I found her. Of all the weird things, I was at home. I was at the coast, and I came home, and drove up on her after she had turned the car over and killed her right there. So this orb, huge thing, was hovering right over where she got killed, and we had to drive up under it, and I tried to get out. I wanted to get out and look at it, and they won't have no part of it, so we had to move on. The reason I brought this up is what it did, it spoke to me in a way that I understood, and these images went right in my head, and I relived the whole thing that happened that night in 1982, and it said, don't worry anymore. This is not your fault, because I thought it was my fault, and I should have been there, but I wasn't. I was out of town hunting that day with my father, and so I carried that for all those years, this feeling of guilt, and it was removed that night, right away, and so I had to put that in there, because it's really important to understand the phenomenon. I don't like to talk about this, but if people are going to understand it, how it reacts, it reacts based on emotion, suffering.

53:13 Thousands of people reach out to me about this, and they'll all say the same thing. When they started seeing it, they lost a family member. They lost their husband, their wife, their child. Pretty severe suffering brings them, and this is something everybody that studies this is aware of. Pause it right there. Wow. Wow. Isn't that an interesting key element of this whole thing? I mean, this is, that sound bite, I might include in the intro, because that really is telling. I was about to say, you should include that. That's essentially the argument that I've laid out a couple of times here on the channel, that it's the emotion. He admits to it. It's not even something that he's not aware of. It's you're emotionally compromised, and then they're able to come in and essentially sucker you in, and what he's describing, that is extremely traumatic. Losing your wife in an accident and then being there and coming upon it and having that terrible, terrible experience, it just, it makes me upset with those fallen angels and the demonic entities that they would play on people's suffering to such a degree that they come in and they just, they can't do anything fair.

54:29 That's the way I look at it. God is so upfront. I am that I am. This is my character. Do you want to follow me? You're more than welcome to follow me. I would love for you to follow me. Satan and his angels? Hmm. Let's wait for the prime opportunity to spring on them. Let's misrepresent who we are, what we are about, and slowly, slowly poison their mindset to the point where they will be in full rebellion against God and they'll be siding with us whether they know it or not. It's just despicable, really. Satan's tactic. And it just goes to show he was a liar from the beginning and that's what he does to people when they're in their most vulnerable states. It's just awful. Actually, it's a mark of an abuser as a human being. Psychologists have gone over this but sociopathic people will prey on the vulnerable. It'll prey on people who are undergoing trauma and it's no wonder. It's like Satan is the cheap sociopath, psychopath.

55:33 It just hits all of those definitions. This is a pattern. This is something that you see and it's nice that he recognizes it and acknowledges it, actually. Yeah, 100%. I think what you're seeing right now is him showing the identity of these things and he doesn't even know it. He's saying, well, look, this thing appears and it happens when we have this type of trouble. When people have trouble, everyone knows this. We are seeing these things appear. Well, the Bible says we will know them by their fruits. I don't think that just applies to people. I think that applies to a lot of other things, too. Everyone has a personality, even these entities. Everyone has the freedom of choice. Even these entities things, these fallen angels, call it what you may, you're going to see fruits, whether they're good or they're bad, come out of these things. If they're coming around and they're scaring people, they're knocking things off the table, they're shoving people in the kitchen, they're causing all kinds of grief for you, they're spooking you out the windows at night. These are all, by the way, indications that he revealed in this long podcast that I probably didn't include everything in here, but he says, yeah, all these things are happening and his daughter, which you will see pretty soon, she will say that this is these things are happening in our house and you would think it was a haunted house. That's what she says.

57:03 You would think it was a haunted house. So, it's baffling to me that it's not visible yet, but there's still a lot more to the story. We're only halfway through the story and then we're going to go through some other key elements here too. Unless you have something else to say, Matthew, I'm going to jump into why they're here to help us. You had mentioned about fruits and judging by the fruits, and you're right that it should extend because in Isaiah, 8, 19 to 20, And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep and that mutter, should not a people seek unto their God for the living, to the dead, to the law, and to the testimony? If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. And also, you see in one of the letters of Paul, he mentioned and I'll have to paraphrase this because I don't have it in front of me, but it was not to trust an angel or a man who comes preaching another gospel.

58:11 So again, the Bible, over and over, it says it holds itself up as the standard that if you're going to test a man or you're going to test a spirit, let it be by the word of God. And that's simply what we're going to be doing here tonight with this encounter. Because I have a feeling it's just going to get even more kind of off the rails and away from any biblical example that we could draw from. Absolutely. Absolutely. Dave Will Go says, God is good. He sent us a super chat. I'm privileged to be his first super chat. Thank you so much, Dave, for that donation. Man, this is the only way this continues on this channel, and I appreciate every single one of you that have contributed. If you wanted to contribute and join us in a chat every day in our Discord server, we talk about this every day. We research this every day. You can join us by going to patreon.com slash strangenormal. And you can partner with us. Help us out and join us as we grow this channel and get further down the rabbit hole to reveal the truth about what's coming down the mainstream right now. This is amazing, folks.

59:23 Everything that's happening right now, you're watching prophecy happen in your lifetime, you don't even realize it, that the spiritual realm is reappearing. Since the 1700s, according to occultists, everything has gone underground. All that superstition stuff, like don't go to the 13th floor, don't let the cat cross your path, all that stuff was the spooky pranks of the spiritual fallen angels. And all that disappeared. All that disappeared hundreds of years ago. And we're starting to see things like this come back right now. We're beginning to see it. And we're going to follow this, and people are going to have questions about this, and you're going to want to have those answers. So, thank you for partnering with us, and we look forward to a new year of 2024 here very soon. Let's get into the next portion of this. This is going to be really, really interesting. The story. What did they say about coming to help? This is fascinating. So, anyhow, we get to the house. Chris Jr. is running through the house, locking every door, turning every light on, inside, outside. And he would go in the bathroom, even, with the windows, he'd turn the light on and lock the door. He was that afraid.

1:00:29 I was in my study, trying to find anything on TV. We just knew we were being invaded, the whole world. You know, that's what we thought. And I couldn't find anything. It was just a normal night. You know, and it was the weirdest thing. We couldn't compute what had just happened, and nothing's going on on television. And so, when Chris gets all his lights locked, and doors locked, and lights on, the whole house, he runs back to where I'm at, and suddenly, the dogs start going crazy. And so, we had this Chesapeake Bay Retriever, 110 pound dog, standing on the back doorsteps. She's just sitting there. And she was growling, and she was barking at the same time. So, I said, I'm going to send Rosie in, to whoever's in there. She'll run them out. Whatever it is. Deer, or whatever. I don't know. But, we made a plan. We're going to send her in, and we're going to run back around to our property. And, I didn't know it, but he had all he could stand. He ran back to the house, opened the back door, and went in and locked the door. I didn't know that. I thought he was still behind me, running. So, the minute I hit that tree, I turned around to see if Junior was coming behind me. And Junior wasn't there. But, what was there, from me to you away, probably there was a being standing there, just like Junior described. That he saw on the river. It was three, three and a half feet tall.

1:01:35 It looked like a child. Not like a gray alien you would think about. People talk about it. It was a little glowing. Color of the moon. Soft glow. Three and a half foot. Four year old. Looked like a four year old child. It had this triangle on its chest. Glowing. This thing was glowing, but it had a dark section that won't glow. It was in the shape of a triangle. And, I knew I was in trouble. And I said, I surrender. I mean you no harm. I'm sorry. No. I was just, I surrendered to it. I just knew I was dead. And I heard this voice say, You don't understand. We're not here to hurt you. We're here to help you. About that time, Rosie comes out of the woods. She's still coming. She's still tracking whatever it is. And it just vanished right in front of me. Just disappeared. That was the beginning and the end of January the 8th of 07. So that was January 8th of 07.

1:02:25 That makes sense too. Just like you said. 2008 is when the whole thing crashed. That's interesting because that's before the crash. That is before the crash. I think the crash was in 08, 09. Something like that. He also said that he had a traumatic experience as a child where he had a near death experience. And a lot of these near death experiences, we've seen these traumatic experiences bring this idea, bring this thing on. It's interesting to get further and deeper in his story. Maybe I'll just peruse his book a little bit and see exactly what's going on here. A little bit strange to me why this is happening to Bledsoe, but the spiritual realm actually speaks to him and tells him why they're coming to him and that's coming up next. What do you think, Matthew? I think it's working, Brad. I think his appearance on this podcast is going to get you to get his book.

1:03:25 He held it up at the beginning of the show. Here it is. UFO of God, if you want to know more. Classic salesman tactic. But wait, wait, wait. It's super, super... I've got to say that with a grain of salt because I truly believe what you put your eyes on really does change you. If I were to ever touch this stuff, I have a bunch of Jacques Vallée books who actually is an atheist, but he talks about this stuff and says that it's indicative of demonic activity. The only reason I got those books was not to dig through them piece by page, but to find the tidbits and the lines to explain to people. If I were to ever dig into those books, I would be very, very careful. I mean, I truly believe if this is as deceptive as I think it is, we as Christians need to be doing everything with prayer, as we did, Matthew and I, before we started this program. It's very important. Sorry, I wanted to add that in there. Yes. This portion of his story, though, notice how he gets back to his home. His son is going nuts, locking doors, terrified, he himself, he's feeling weirded out and fear, and he opens that door and he surrenders to that being.

1:04:42 Again, we don't see that, you know, it says, oh, don't be afraid if you don't understand, we're here to help you, but it doesn't acknowledge itself as a representative of God. It doesn't say, I'm here in the name of the Lord, I'm bearing a message for you. It's also almost toying with them a bit. Oh, let's spook them out by the lake, let them have a terrible ride back where they're filled with anxiety and fear. Let them get in the house for a little bit. Let them lock the doors and turn on the TVs and let it kind of ferment and stew. And when they're really at this hysterical point, then I'll reveal myself to him. And of course, he's going to throw himself on the ground at that point. He's wanting relief from this experience. It's causing him so much anxiety and stress. I'm sure if what he's saying is true, this would be a monumentally stressful experience to undergo.

1:05:34 And it's a shame that he wasn't really properly equipped to deal with this. I don't think any of us necessarily are, but we can call upon the Lord. And the Lord is more than able to dispel them. Powerful enough to do anything. And that's why we need a friend in Jesus. That's why we need to walk with God and have that relationship. Because otherwise, we will fall prey to these very, very powerful entities. Yeah, 100%. I think also, and I know Bledsoe, he's kind of come across this video. It's not a very big, big thing yet, but it's going to become much bigger, this testimony, as we will soon find out in these next couple clips. It's going to reveal that. But what I think he should do is test the spirits. What he should do is say, in the name of Jesus Christ, if you are of this, if you believe in the creator of the universe, I will walk away with you.

1:06:36 Because there's power in that name. And if you truly have a close relationship with Jesus Christ, and that's key, that might have a weird connection that some people have found that it doesn't work, because it's not a magic word. You have to have that relationship in order for Christ to be close enough to come to you. But Christ promises that you call out my name. I will be there. And so, what's going on right now is Joe Jordan, a friend of the channel. He's been on here before. He has had over four to six hundred testimonies saying that they have had similar experiences of things that have appeared to them. And they call out Jesus' name, they disappear. Chris Bledsoe, you need to do that too, and find out if these things are what we think they are. Any other thoughts before I roll the next clip? Yes, just a little bit of a, biblically supplement that point that you just made about calling out to God.

1:07:38 In Acts 19, 13 through 15, we have, Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon themselves, took upon, sorry, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits in the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew and chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are ye? And at that point, they are attacked by the man who's possessed of the spirit, and it just goes to show, like you're saying, it's not a magic word. You don't just walk up and be like, Jesus Christ, and now you gotta leave. No, that's not what it is. If you're calling on the name of Jesus, it's a personal relationship. It's like if you were in a really bad situation and you wanted to call up a friend. Or maybe your parent. If you're close with your father and mother, and you just went through something really bad. Pray beforehand. I think the most important line of communication you can establish is with the Most High.

1:08:46 But then you're gonna want to call up your parents or your brother or sister, close friend, and say whatever their name is, Mom, Dad, you'll never believe what just happened. That's the type of addressing when you're calling on the name of Jesus. It's Jesus, help, I'm in this situation. And I need help from you, not just open sesame. Jesus, now you have to leave. I said the name. Get out. That's not how it works. Not an open sesame. Absolutely not. Not a magic word. It doesn't work like that. It's a relationship. And you have to have that relationship. It is powerful, though. And we're gonna get into that power here in a minute. But before that, Matthew says, people say God doesn't exist.

1:09:38 Watch what happens next, because Matthew and I were just talking last night, privately on the phone, about some prophecy in the Bible, specifically Daniel 11, that hasn't happened yet. And we might touch on that just a little bit, but listen to what they say here before we do that. We've always been told that nothing exists. Even people say God doesn't exist. So it's all faith. It's only us. And we were created by evolution. Just time. You know, enough time, anything can create itself. That's what they say. So I just experienced something that what I didn't say was the next day when we left the hayfield and came home. I came home and was worried about my medication, because I had to take medicine every day. And if I missed it, I would get worse. Couldn't miss one day. It just had to stay regular. And I didn't feel sick the next morning. And I didn't take any medication. Just to the Crohn's. And I haven't had a symptom since then. Period. Went away that night. And I was so sick that, as you can tell you, I was in the bathroom 20 times a day. 25 at the worst.

1:10:44 It was at the worst point. That's what Crohn's does to you. Very painful. You know, it's an intestinal disease. Right, right, right. So I told the world, you know, this is what happened. Suddenly, I became a lampenstock. And I was playing with demons. You're playing with the devil himself. And for long, they were coming. Sprinkling holy water on my kids, on my house, on my property, on me. Really? Yeah. Like when you would go to church? Well, I wasn't going to church then because I was told, you can't come if you ever talk about this again. So I'm like, I'm going to talk about it. And so I never went back. That's a power packed piece right there. We're going to talk about that one. We're going to talk about this next one. I'm going to play this next short clip before we talk about it. So this first experience sort of unlocked a whole bag of other experiences on everybody. Absolutely. On all of us.

1:11:34 Yeah. Even you, last night. So, what other types of experiences are we talking about? Well, go ahead. You can talk. I mean, anything you can think of. Really, I've seen things, we've seen things like jump off of the table without being touched. Like moving, things moving on their own. Seeing shadow figures being touched. Anything, like you would think it was a haunted house growing up. But that's, you know, part of how we explain that this is all spiritual in nature is because it can really manifest in any way that it wants to. And so the phenomenon is not limited to what people think of as aliens or UFOs. Where we were obviously seeing orbs every night as well. We were seeing things in the home that you would think of as like ghostly maybe. But it was all the same stuff. Hmm. Interesting, huh? So they're seeing ghostly things. Oh, that's so frustrating. I know. That's like, we talk about this on the show where people have these encounters with alien beings and they, to us, it seems so clearly demonic. You're saying it's like you grew up in a haunted house, things are flying around, falling off the tables. Again, I have to ask you, how does any of that further your relationship with God?

1:12:38 How does any of that deepen your faith in Jesus Christ when you have weird things just happening and the way you chalk it up is, oh, the phenomenon could just manifest in any way it wants to. No, no, no, no. This is a very specific type of phenomenon and it's a demonic phenomenon. It's not heavenly. There's nothing good about this. Again, just think about the Bible and the experiences that the apostles had. None of them detailed, oh yeah, we received the Holy Spirit at Pentecost and ever since then, I couldn't keep my silverware on the table. It would just fall off. It was flying across the room every night. No, that doesn't happen. You have a peacefulness. There's an order to it. That is just what you're describing is chaotic in nature and God, by the nature, he's not a chaotic God. He's the God of order.

1:13:34 He's the God that makes sense. He invites you to reason with him. Come, let us reason. He doesn't just pull tricks on you and play spook house with you. To what end? That's what I'm saying. You have to ask yourself to what end? For God, it doesn't make sense for him to do any of this, but for Satan and for his angels, it makes perfect sense why you would do this because it keeps you in confusion. It keeps you dependent on him and it also, I think, from the way that they're talking about this, gives them the sense of we are special. We grew up in this special environment where these spiritual things were happening. Not everybody gets that and in a way, it's going to make you think, I'm so blessed that this is happening to me when, in fact, this is a burden that I would not wish on my worst enemies to be haunted, to have demonic manifestations in your home like this. It's just awful. Right, right, 100%. I'm actually going to play, we're on clip 7. This next one is clip 7, so remember that. It's an easier number to remember. We're going to go to clip 13 real quick because this is, they flow very close together and I'm going to show you what the daughter also says about this along those same lines.

1:14:54 Watch this. I don't know. I don't know, Dan. I have no clue. Sorry, Dan. It's always interesting when people ask us what our experience is, you know, they expect us to say we see UFOs and aliens but it's so much more complicated than that and it comes down to this sort of thing as well. How do you explain that to someone in a 10 minute conversation that it also is so spiritual and there's like a healing aspect to it. It's so multifaceted that I don't think people can really wrap their heads around it. But if like anyone could try to understand from a base perspective, it's just like this is of an benevolent spiritual experience that is open to everybody. That for some reason we are, you know, I guess semi-responsible for sharing and promoting to people. If they were evil, why would he be able to heal people? You know? Yeah. It is me doing this phenomenon. Whether you're a vessel or whether you're doing it, it's like happening around us. And so I'm not saying necessarily you have powers or anything but there is evidence and facts that you, for some reason, are surrounded by healing.

1:15:46 And if this were an evil sort of phenomenon, why would this be happening? So we're going to stop right there for a second because that's an interesting clip because she denotes that this thing is a very benevolent, must be benevolent because you have healing powers that come out of this. Now we're going to get into his healing powers in a minute here. I think that's just fascinating because I believe at the end of time we're going to see these healings happen much, much more. More than just in these fake churches that pretend to heal you. You've seen these before on TV. What was it? Benny Hinn? I think he actually stepped out of that and said he's... Oh, sorry. I was just going to confirm that. Yeah, Benny Hinn definitely is one of the bigger, more infamous names in that realm. And so I think we're going to see more and more of this and people are going to say well, how can it be of the devil if it's doing such good in society? Don't you know the devil is a deceiver?

1:16:48 This is the real reason. But I digress on that for a moment. Any thoughts on that, Matthew, before I move on to clip seven? I just want to talk about that comment she made about healing. If it wasn't benevolent, why would it be healing? And there are some excellent, excellent biblical examples to tell you exactly why the healing is not necessarily a benevolent force. And I've been mentioning this because the more I look at this, you have to understand your enemy, essentially. You have to know what is Satan's characteristics. And I don't need to go to Satanists to figure it out because the Bible does an excellent job of actually spelling out the desires of Satan's heart. And in Isaiah, 14-14, we see that the chief desire of Satan's heart is, I will be like the Most High. So whenever we look at these end-time events, whenever we look at satanic deceptions, keep that in mind. He is going to not just freewheel here. He's not just going to go off and do something else. No. He is going to follow the example set by God. He is going to follow the example set by the Most High. Jesus notorious for healing people, just moved with such compassion to heal them, and certainly was benevolent. But Satan knows that. He was sitting in the wings watching and taking notes and going, okay, this is how Jesus acts here.

1:18:16 This is the kind of way he speaks there. I need to be like this. If I'm going to draw people in the way that Jesus is capable of drawing people in, I have to act like him. I have to emulate him. And again, in John 5, actually, this is where I would say, it's probably one of the best arguments towards a demonic force healing somebody, is the pool of Bethesda. Yes. You're familiar with that? Oh, yeah. That was fascinating. Because there's actually debate among, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Go ahead. No, no, no, please. I'm just going to get into the story, but I want to hear, what do you have to say about it? I was floored. When I started talking about this for the first time, actually, I was like, Christians really believe that this, that the pool of Bethesda, the angel that they talk about in the pool of Bethesda was a good angel? Look at the characteristics of it. But we'll go ahead in the story first. Yes, I have the scripture here in front of me. So, this is the pool of Bethesda. So, let's see. Now, there is in Jerusalem, this is starting at John 5, 2.

1:19:20 Now, there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue, Bethesda, having five porches. In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water. For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water. Whosoever then first, after the troubling of the water, stepped in, was made whole of whatsoever disease he had. And it goes on to talk about, and a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years. When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been waiting there a long time, he said unto him, Will thou be made whole? The impotent man answered, saying, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me in the pool. But while I am coming, another stepeth down before me. Jesus says unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. And immediately the man was made whole, took up his bed, and walked.

1:20:22 And on the same day was the Sabbath. That, the detailing of that right there, Jesus approaches this man, who I'm sure this man is face, he is locked in on that pool. He's been waiting there for so long, over thirty years, he's waiting to get in that water, because he wants to be healed of what's ailing him. And Jesus walks up, and if that man is facing the pool, and he's fixated on it, Jesus has to be standing with his back to the pool. He's addressing the man right there in front of him. He's saying, Do you want to be made whole? Do you have faith enough to be made whole? I'm going to heal you of what is ailing you. If that angel was of God, Jesus being God in the flesh, would have simply said, Well, you're doing what I wanted you to do. You're just waiting to get into the pool, and you're not able to get into the pool. You know what? Here.

1:21:12 Jesus would have picked him up and rushed him into the water first, because it would have been in accordance with the will of God. This is how God set it up, so this is how you're going to be healed. Instead, Jesus is totally rejecting it. He's not even acknowledging that at all. And instead, draws the man's focus and attention onto him. That is why I cannot believe that the angel that's mentioned there is an angel of God doing this thing, because it would have been, I don't know, any instance in the Bible where God has like this weird kind of ritualistic thing that he sends an angel to do over and over. It just, what do you think about that, Brad? Yeah, no, I did a whole, so the indicative thing that really gets me is that this whole thing pits people against each other. Who can get into the pool first who gets the power of God to heal them? That's never, never how God works. That's always how Satan works. I did a whole documentary on the case about competition in natural society. It was a very interesting case. It's called The Greatest Among Us. When the disciples went, who is going to be the greatest disciple? He said, you are the furthest. You need to repent, you need to be what is the, I don't want to misquote the Bible, that's why I'm stuttering here, but he basically gave him the harshest, the harshest words to his closest friends during that period of time, basically saying, you're not converted yet. You need to think about this for a second. And so when, Christ never says, hey, I'm going to pit you against other people so that you can figure out who's going to get my attention the first. No.

1:22:52 No, God loves everyone. And he wants everyone to be healed, but it was always Satan's tactic to try to make people fight. And I'm sure there's fighting over who gets in the pool first. I'm going to push that guy out of the way that's crippled in order for me to get my leg healed. You know, it's, and that's, so that indicates to me that this wasn't a good angel that was doing any healing. And that bad angels, which is the point of this conversation, can do essentially healings, at least limited so. Yes, I agree. And a great point about that competitive aspect too, because you see that in Satan's world. Satan is the god of this world. He bestows just immense power on people who follow him, and it seems like he really can stack the deck. And what do we see in the celebrity world? Celebrities get so nasty with each other. They go on and they say the worst things about each other. The political world.

1:23:49 Oh, politics all over the world. America especially. This is where I live, so this is the frame of reference. But I know from looking at international news, politicians have just become totally loose with their tongues. They curse about each other. They say the nastiest things about each other. It really is a squabbling. It's like crabs in the barrel. And they're all pulling each other down. And what happens is the hand of Satan reaches into the barrel and says, you, you're the one that squabbled the most. I see the most potential in you to further my plans. Let me elevate you and take you out of this barrel. It is a disgusting tactic that Satan employs. And I think you're right to bring it up. Absolutely, yes, fallen angels can heal. And that is what we're trying to get to with this. Off a little tangent there, but yeah, exactly.

1:24:39 Unnecessary tangent, though. Why we needed to get into that. And it begs the question, can the devil answer God's prayers? Let's get into that in a second, but watch this clip and see what he says about that. I was desperate to prove to the world that I had actually experienced something, that I wasn't crazy. They labeled me that. The whole community. Or you're playing with the devil, one of the two. And I knew different. I knew I was praying to God. And these balls of fire came. I knew they took my crumbs away. I knew it wasn't the devil. If it was, what a big trick. Why does the devil answer prayer? If he does, I don't want to be praying, right? So, I had given up that night. And I walked outside and I said, look, I've been trying to film you. You're in my house. You're around my family. Everybody here sees your presence. These orbs. They're intelligent beings. These orbs are beings. They're individual beings. Sometimes more than one. And so I shouted to the heavens, I'm done. You won't let me film you.

1:25:37 You won't let me share you with my mom and dad who's next door. The minute they come out, it never shows. When they walk out the door, boom, it's right back in our family's face. So it was like, it was so real to us, as a group of six people, but it wasn't, I wasn't able to share it. And I fell all the way to my back. Flat in the leaves. And so, I land on my back and I roll to my stomach. And when I roll, and I'm trying to get up, right? I'm going to run. It happens within seconds. I hit my back. I roll to my stomach. I'm facing the other way. So I'm trying to get to my knees and to my feet to run. To know where this thing went. I'm going to pause right here. I think there was a clip error in there. But basically, what happened was, he was upset. He's calling out. And all of a sudden, this thing appears. He has a rushing wind that hits him. And he falls down on his back. And this is what happens next. And immediately, there's a woman. Beautiful. Beyond measure. She was glowing. This bluish-white color. And she had this white dress on that sparkled when it was flowing. The dress just moved.

1:26:29 And it looked like an old Roman dress. It went all the way to her feet. And sleeves out to her hands here. And a collar. There's a painting of it right there. Look at this. And there's actually a triangle on her chest. He put it on there. Three foot floating in front of you. Yeah, three foot off the ground. But six foot away from me. Six foot away. And the size of her, was it like the normal size of a human? She was smaller. Smaller. See-through? Could you not see through? No, she was solid as you are. Solid? Yeah. But her mouth wasn't moving. But I could hear her plain as day talking to me. But she was hovering. Barefooted. Just like that. Three feet off the ground. And she looks at me. But now I'm looking at this woman. So that whole fear thing turned into oh my god. What is this? An angel? What am I looking at? She leans over. And she looks at me. And she says, this is your burden. She said at first, she said, you know why I'm here? And I knew why she was there. Because I'd struggled internally for five years. These orbs come in and talk telepathically. But she said, this is your burden. You gotta bear. She said, there's gonna be trouble coming.

1:27:23 And we're gonna wake the people up. And we're gonna let you do it. We're gonna use you. We want to help you. Introduce us to the world. That's what she said. No, I'm not gonna drop it. I think that's indicative of what's going on here. I mean, they came to him knowing that he's gonna go on all these podcasts. And he's gonna be talking about all this stuff. And he says, they said, it's beginning. Is what they're telling him. It's beginning. And we're gonna use you to tell everyone about what's happening here. And how we're gonna reveal ourselves to the world. This is starting in our lifetime. That's what's going on right here. And this thing that appeared? What did he paint? I mean, it looks. And what I think is fascinating about that is he said, is this an angel? He said it was a woman. Do we see anywhere in the Bible where angels are portrayed as women? I think that's interesting. Alright? Every single time in the Bible when an angel comes, it's a man. They say, well, it looked like a man.

1:28:27 Interesting. I mean, just the polar opposite. I'm not saying anything about gender here. I'm saying there's Satan wants to be one thing, and he portrays himself as one thing if he thinks he can get away with it. And I think that neither this is gonna go down a rabbit trail. I don't think we have genders in angels. I'm gonna leave it at that. We'll discuss that some other time. Look at the creation account. So with Adam and Eve, what happens? Adam is alone, and God says it's not good for him alone. He needs a helpmate. And then he draws out the rib, creates Eve, and she is woman because she came out of man. That's that is, so there isn't necessarily an angel version of a woman. I think there's just this masculine kind of standard, and then God, who is capable of doing a new thing, says, for humanity, I want male and female. And not only that, for all of the inhabitants on earth with procreation, as we see it in the animal species as well, male and female, male and female, even in plant species, which is really bizarre that there are male and female plants. This is something that God did, and I think it's a wondrous thing, and it probably really astonished the angels. It does say that the stars of heaven, they cried with joy when they saw God creating the world.

1:29:49 It's a matter of wow, this God of ours is capable of doing something that we did not even have a preconceived notion of. So no, there are no, as far as I can tell from a biblical account, there are no female angels. I have no reason to believe that there are female angels, and what I find strange is that angels are most often depicted as female. I mean, go to a garden shop, right? Like a nursery or something. They always have a statue section. Walk through there and see just how many of those are winged women with robes on, and those are the angels that they put. Or little babies. Little winged babies. Yeah, people who decorate their trees this time of year, you know? They put angels on top of their trees, and those angels are often depictions of a female angel. And that's just, yeah, it's not biblically accurate, and I think it's an important point to make because he is seeing this female figure, which of course, I think as a man, too, having it be a very attractive woman that's appearing to you, the most beautiful woman you've ever seen, there is going to, speaking as a man, if there is a beautiful woman who is talking to you, giving you attention, you're going to be a little more like, uh-huh, okay, what do you have to say to me?

1:31:11 Okay, what are you talking to me? Okay, what do you want to say? Alright, I'll listen. Right, I think that's a tactic that's just being employed by Satan and his angels to know to appear like that. It would be the same thing, I think, for a woman as well. I mean, if they want to come and deceive a woman, it's like, oh, let's be really attractive men and show up to them because then they'll fall in love with us, just on-site alone. And... There's also... There's also the idea that, and I'm generalizing here, but generally you don't feel as combative if a woman comes at you than a man. I mean, you might be set on edge, just as in when Joshua saw the angel, right? He saw a man, he says, you know, you're dressed as a soldier. Who are you? Are you for my enemies? Are you on our team here? And he's like, neither. I mean, that's the first question, so you're a little less combative when that happens. I think that's interesting. But that's...

1:32:15 He asks the question, does the devil answer prayers? And he gives the idea that we shouldn't pray if the devil can answer our prayers. I'm going to suggest we should pray always, but I suggest that the devil can answer their prayers if you don't have that relationship with God. He'll snatch up an opportunity. I mean, it... You need to have that relationship with God and that prayer, constant prayer, in prayer, be in season. And it's very important. And so I think that relationship is where the disconnect is for Chris. Can we just acknowledge that by Chris's own account, he reached out to the heavens saying, whatever is out there, whatever is listening to me, come on and answer me. It's a very open-ended type of prayer, where you're just... Essentially what you're saying is, anyone who can give me results, step in. And Satan is like, oh, I think a call has been lodged for me. I'm going to appear because I can give him what he wants.

1:33:19 Satan tempted Christ in the wilderness with the ultimate temptation that he could offer was all of the kingdoms of the world and all of the riches within it. All you have to do is worship me, and this can be yours. He can make that same offer, and has made that same offer to many people. Unfortunately, that offer has been accepted. I know. I know. And the... After this prophecy that this angel said, not prophecy, or a description of his job title and duty that they gave him, they said, this is your burden to bear. This is your burden to bear now. You have to go and reveal what's going on here. He said that got the attention of the government and the Vatican. And he's going to reveal why here pretty soon, so stick around, because that just floored me when he said that, too. Watch what he says in this next clip. There's going to be...

1:34:17 She said when the star of Regulus when the star of Regulus arises on the horizon in the gaze of the Sphinx, at that time there will be a shift in the knowledge of humanity. That's what she said. I don't know what it meant. I had no clue if this star would align on... The star of Regulus? Regulus. A star called Regulus. When it aligns on the gaze of the Sphinx before daylight, and that star comes up and it's right just above the horizon, like the orbs last time. Right on the ground. In view of the Sphinx, there'll be a shift in the knowledge. There'll be a new knowledge for humanity. Okay, yeah, Regulus. It is a constant star. It's the star of Leo, the Lionheart. She told me when that star aligns on the horizon before daylight, in the gaze of the Sphinx, there would be a shift in the knowledge of humanity. A new knowledge, and that's what she told me. But there would be trouble along the way first, and she gave me the images of war. I even wrote that I saw Israel bomb Iran and Syria, and we're looking at it right now. I put that in writing for years. I'm not talking today. I did it. I've said this for a long time. And it's coming. It's happening. It got the attention of Diana and the Vatican and CIA, NASA, and everybody, DOD, even the Ministry of Defense in Britain, Australia, all these people. They wanted to know about the lady immediately, let me tell you.

1:35:31 In fact, I put it in writing to two generals at the Pentagon what she told me. I was asked to do that. I have, I mean, I have a whole bunch of questions in my head right now, but I want to try to figure out how to pick this apart a little bit. So I paused that. I want to pause it right there just for a second and talk about that, because that's super important. I actually want to include the next clip, though, so I don't want to talk about this too long, but because the next clip goes with this very, very succinctly in parallel. What he said here was, while she was talking to him and telling him that you're here for a main purpose, she also gave them, and the devil likes to be a prophet. He likes to be exactly like God. And some cryptic, strange, what do I want to say? A riddle of having this star Regulus over the Sphinx. I mean, it was very indicative of astrology. Is that the word I'm looking for? Where you study of the stars and all the psychics do that type of stuff. I think it was interesting because it said the woman got the attention of the military. And I'm going to have, Matthew, I'm going to hold your comment just for a second because this is a key part of this. I want you to play this next part because it's just weird and it goes succinct with this and we'll talk about it. Here we go. There's going to be, she said when the red, so I asked him, remember we're afraid of government, so I was being tight-lipped and I said, why are you here? Thank you for helping my children. Thank you for helping Junior. But why are you here? Why do you need me? He's talking to the government. He said, because we see them.

1:37:03 He said we see them, but they don't want nothing to do with us. Zero. And we want to study them. We want to know more. And we would like to study you. And we would suggest you don't go to any UFO events. Don't go to any conferences. Don't get involved. Because people that go to those tend to take on each other's stories. You get somebody that sees a light fly by during the call and the orb goes over. Suddenly they're involved with names. They're from the Galactic Federation. They were the Pleiadians. They were the Arcturians. They did this. They did that. They know everything about when they only saw a light. This happens in the UFO world and a lot of those things people tend to know more than the experts do. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So he said, we see them, but they have nothing to do with us. And we'd like to know why they want you. We know they like you. We know that. And we just want to investigate something. So that's how that happened. Do you have any idea the answer to that question? Why do they like you? Why do they want to communicate with you and not with anybody else? I have no idea.

1:37:59 I've asked that a hundred times. And Hal Palbemeyer told me one day, and he was always very tight-lipped too. He would ask a million questions and tell you one answer, right? That's the way he always was. And I'm like, Hal, why are they here? Why do they want me? Why are they around me like this all the time? He said, because they're your family. That's what he told me. He said, they're probably your family. What that means, I don't know. Wow. If I haven't seen red flags in the chat, I think it's time to see some red flags. Let me just recap what you just saw in these next two clips, and I'll pass it to you, Matthew. What you saw was prophecy from a demonic, what I believe is a demonic entity, saying that it got the tension of the Vatican, got the tension of the military. So he says, and so he has pushed out these pictures and these claims, and he's made good with it, and we'll see that in a second. But he also says that when the government came to him, he said, well, why are you studying me? Why do you come to me? And they said, well, we see these things too. We see them as lights in the sky. But we can't get close enough to study them. The government wants to study them because they want to make military assets out of these things. And they've said that on the news. We've been studying that.

1:39:17 And so I think what's fascinating about this is that they are coming to him to say, okay, since they're coming to you, we want to know what's special about you so we can get them to come to us. And then he says, well, what are these things? He says, well, they're your family. Family. There's that thing that comes back, and this is a whole other topic, and I realize that. But constantly, what we're seeing around these things, Joe Jordan has pointed this out, is that we see that they come back and they appear as former or dead relatives, but they're not really your dead relatives. Because the Bible's very clear about where the dead are right now. Christ himself said that they are asleep. They're non-existent anymore. Not until the next resurrection. And it's very clear. So I think it's interesting what we're seeing right now is a huge deception. And even the government is deceived by this. What do you think about this whole thing, Matthew? Do you have any comments on it? Yes, I would just say that of course the government has an interest in it, and they want to figure it out. I think that in some spheres, they certainly know more than they're letting on.

1:40:29 And I wonder if they almost go to Chris and they kind of, and other people, other experiencers, and they ask them questions pointedly, and they're trying to see if they really have had encounters. Because the narrative that Satan has delivered to humanity, as far as the alien thing is concerned, it's really almost complex to the point where you need to have a little chart to keep up with it. Because he's appeared as so many different beings. Ooh, the Greys. Beware of the Greys. They're evil and they're bad. Oh, the Nordics. They're super friendly and nice, and they look like human beings. And they're going down the line. And almost what he is describing with that, the woman's appearance, seems to fall more in line with the Nordics that they've talked about. And those are apparently the benevolent ones. It's just Satan playing it's good cop, bad cop. That's all that it is. And it's just, I don't know, it's a shame that it can't be properly called out for what it is. But one day. One day soon. I think. Yeah, absolute. Absolute. One day soon. It's really interesting what's happening in this guy's life. I'm going to skip over the next clip. It kind of doesn't go with the rest of the rest of this. He talks to the government official about seeing what the government official says.

1:41:49 And he says this is the same guy on the Apollo missions that has mapped out the moon for lunar landings. He says, he talks to him a little bit about the dark side of the moon and how it does contain strange buildings. So, we're not going to dump straight into that right now, primarily because we're short on time. But I'll put it on Patreon if you guys want to see that clip, or if you go watch the whole three and a half hours, I'm sure you can find it too. I'm not covering anything up, but we just don't have time. So, this next clip says skeptics have appeared and said it's demons. What is that about? Watch this. And he's showing video clips of what he has captured right now. What do the most hardcore skeptics say about these things? How do they try to explain these things? Well, you know, there are hardly no skeptics anymore. I don't really have that issue. The main thing I hear now is it's demons. You're dealing with demons, because they've already accepted the fact that there is something there.

1:42:51 It was like satellites, or at one point someone said swamp gas. Another thing people say about this is that if this was to become accepted within humanity, it would destroy all religion. But what you see now, going back to even the Vatican, is that they are looking into astronomy. There's an observatory at the Vatican, and they're looking at the stars, and they're talking about the idea of extraterrestrial life. They even say, if God could have created us, and it could create ants and caterpillars, why couldn't it create other beings that are somewhere else in the galaxy that are even intelligent? You can't limit God's creative freedom. And the Vatican is kind of becoming the religion. It is not counterintuitive. It is not counter to the idea of extraterrestrial life or another sort of multi-dimensional life form or being or entity that lives parallel to us.

1:43:41 So when you think about that, I don't necessarily believe that it would have a negative effect on established religions today. I think it will for the strictness of people. You've got religions that are pure cults that only we're going to go to heaven. These Baptists over there, they can't make it. These or them, you believe like us, are you going to burn in hell? They don't even rationalize when it comes to this stuff. It's just straight by that book, and they'll be the ones that they're going to deal with, I think, because they don't have room for any deviation of possibilities other than what that book says. That book? What that book says, huh? So he says, only people that are going to be extremely affected by this is those cult people that go by the book. What book is he talking about here? He's talking about the Bible.

1:44:33 Oh my goodness! Of course. Those cult people that are going by the book. Those? I can't even get my words out. Excuse me, Chris, for making the determination that I'm going to use the Bible, the Word of God, as the paradigm with which I view not just UAP, but the entire world. It lays it out for you. It goes into detail. If you are a believer in this, why wouldn't I go by what the Bible says? It's not a bad quality. It speaks to my faith. That's where I'm going to go. That's how I'm going to try to gain discernment about these things. I think that that type of an attitude that he's displaying right there is going to lead to fundamentalist Christians being this minority at the end of time, and they're going to be persecuted by the beast power and Satan himself on earth ruling for a very short period of time and putting those Christians to death.

1:45:41 It's going to be from an attitude just like that. He's right there. It just needs to be notched up a couple of decibels in order to really get to the point where it's like they need to die. It's just saying, these people are too strict on it. They don't have an open mind. They won't entertain the possibility. No, my mind is open enough to listen to your stories. My mind is open enough to say, I thought, wow, you know what, everything he's saying lines up with the scriptures. Everything he's saying, he's having real encounters with God. Hallelujah. I would embrace him and say, you really are, you've had this amazing experience and you're an important man for this time and you're a man of God but even he doesn't seem to want that title of I'm a man of God of the Bible.

1:46:35 He's going to refer to it as that book. Like I said, it's just weird. And that's just – at this point, you're a wolf putting on sheep's clothing because, yeah, no true Christian would refer to the Bible as that book with that disdain in your voice where it's like that book is holding you back. No, that book is – it's drawing me closer to God. The Word of God. Yeah, it's giving me the account of Jesus Christ. This is how I get to know Jesus Christ. This is how I have faith in him and eternal life through Jesus. It's nothing to scoff at. Wow. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. And so he's basically saying, yeah, a lot of people believe this stuff. And just like you were saying, I truly believe we have people over in the sandbox, as the military calls it, over there, Muslims that are having experiences with Jesus.

1:47:34 They're calling out and saying, absolutely. I had something appear to me. I repented. I converted. I mean, we had amazing, amazing, amazing things. And I truly believe there's a lot of Muslims that are devoted to their religion that have come and become Christians because of seeing visions. I believe that absolutely happens. But the characteristics of what Chris Bledsoe family has been seeing is indicative of demonic activity. And I hate to say it that way, but he needs to call out. There's no way around it. Yeah. There isn't another way to say it. It's what it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Healing. And so let's jump in. And not only that, we've already covered the healing a little bit, but let's see what he's been saying about his now new ability to heal. This really blew my mind and blew me away.

1:48:24 Watch this. He told me, he said, Chris, he said, maybe the phenomenon was showing you you have a gift that you need to try to do something with. And so that changed my life to where it is today. That's what I do. I've done more trying to help people who are sick than I ever reveal or talk about. It's every day of my life. I have people write me, people who are sick, people I go and visit and try to help. And I've seen some miracles happen. And so we have a child in Washington that's sick, and he's from a prominent family, and we want you to see if you can help him. And I said, well, you got me there. So the next day, I was on an airplane to Washington, and I was sitting at that young boy in the bottom right there. To his left is Jim Simivan. This whole party, that was his apartment. It was the heads of the CIA, the director. That's Ryan, my brother. That's Ryan, and this is Mike Murrell, the deputy director. This little boy is right in there, a group of people. And so when I got to his house, I was terrified.

1:49:19 I didn't know what to do. I didn't know where to start. You know, I've been asked to do this. What the heck do I do? I don't even know how I help the dog, much less to help a child or somebody sick. And so I sat there with him and his mom and dad for several hours just talking and feeling out the situation. And he silently. He's praying, Lord, help me. You got me into this. How do I deal with this? What do I do? And this voice said, not an audible voice, but just something spoke to me and said, just hug him. Just reach out and hug him. And so I waited to the perfect time to do so. And I reached out and hugged him real good. And he couldn't eat, couldn't eat, hadn't been able to eat most of his life at all. If he could throw up, he had this mitochondrial DNA disease, which your body just doesn't digest food and get the nourishments from it. So usually they don't live past 12, 13 years old. They're dead. And so he had to make a wish. And this group of people pulled around him.

1:50:12 And he's in college now. He's completely healed. He's fine. Wow. Yeah. And there's a lot more to it. In that party right there, you see all these people. There are hundreds in there, people, hundreds of Washington, Washington, D.C., the most prominent intel folks, judges, doctors, cardiologists. His grandpa was there, a cardiologist. And I'm sitting at a table next to Jim's table. There's this big round white table. It was with cloths with Jewish flags. And it was just, I'd never been to a bar mitzvah. But the table behind me, I heard this ruckus. And the band, every dancer, just like that whole crowd, they knew how to party. And they were having the best time. I'm sitting watching my children have fun. And I heard this ruckus. Next thing I know, Jim's wife, Debbie, grabs me, picks me up, basically, and pulls me to this other table and said, you've got to help this guy.

1:51:05 And he was slumped over, face down. I mean, alcohol completely turned white. And they were trying to revive him, couldn't get him away. And they drug me through the crowd. And I put my hands on his shoulders. The very instant I did, he sat up and took a big breath. And they looked at me and said, my God, you saved him. That happened in that party. Wow. Yep. In front of these people, imagine. That's Washington. How do you even deal with that, being you and that happening? How do you even comprehend that? I don't. I don't. This whole case is like one of the saddest, I think, that we've covered.

1:52:07 In all the different experiencers, Chris, someone and his family, my heart goes out to. It's clearly they are being manipulated on a level that is just totally sinister. Of course, we want people to be healed, right? Well, go ahead. No, no. I don't want to. I don't want to interrupt you. I would just. A thought occurred to me. I'll tell you after. I was just going to say, of course, we want people to be healed. That that isn't something a boy suffering, a man almost dying. You do want to see something miraculous. You you want human suffering to be alleviated. But knowing how Satan operates, that he will stick someone with the poison. And watch them writhe and then say, oh, here's the antidote.

1:53:05 Well, they wouldn't be in the situation they were in if you hadn't poisoned them to begin with. And that goes for all of humanity. We wouldn't be suffering the penalties of sin. All of the terrible things that are happening. If Satan hadn't come in in the first place to deceive our first parents in the garden. It all goes back to that suffering that he's caused. And then. Comes in to manipulate. It is a despicable thing. What were you going to say, Brad? No, I was just going to say. But before I say what I was going to say, the whole thing started. And I excluded this because it was a little graphic. He had a dog that came into the house and had a cut in its neck. And it was blood was coming out of it quite a bit. And so he grabbed the dog and put it on the floor and put his hand over it. And he says, I'm a half hour from any vet.

1:53:58 The dog's going to die because it was. Yeah. Losing a lot of blood. He says it was at the time he was outside by his tree. I'll get this. He was by a tree that was burning, but never consumed. The tree just started burning, he said. And so and so he said when the dog started bleeding, he says he has pictures of it. He showed pictures of the blood on the on the napkin and stuff. So it's a legitimate thing. He said he took his hand away and everyone was amazed because it was completely healed. There was no blood anymore. We don't know what happened. And after that, they started saying, maybe you have the been given this ability because the the entity healed him of the Crohn's. So now maybe he can heal the dog. So they so they that's what started him to come to Washington.

1:54:47 Now, what I was going to say, the thought occurred to me was this bringing him to Washington in front of all these leaders of the United States and having him do these, whether they're real or not. Miracles and having people believe that this guy has is seeing visions of these entities that the government knows they're having trouble with. And now he's able to heal things. Boy, oh, boy, has that catapulted him into a serious spotlight now that everyone at that meeting at that bar mitzvah or all the who's who believes that this guy is he's someone to take note of. So that's why I believe. Satan and they said it themselves when they appeared to him as a woman dressed in pure white. You're going to take this message and you're going to tell about us appearing and coming into this world.

1:55:42 This is starting now, folks. This is a big deal. This is this is this is what's happening. And I don't think we're going to see this isn't the last time we're going to hear from Bledsoe, even though he's created a book. He just announced just this last week that the book is being made into a theater film. It's going to be a big, big, big deal. Hollywood movie called UFO of God, his whole entire thing. Oh, you got something to say. What are you going to say? I want to know what production company is behind this, because if it is to the stars producing this story, that is going to be such a like just eye rolling, face palming moment. Because, of course, of course, they would make it into a theatrical release. We've got to figure that out. That's. That's homework. Miss St. G says M. St. G says it's Obama because Obama just made that movie. Obama just made the movie. Maybe he'll give them some notes if he has some experiences.

1:56:42 One person says Stephen King. I think what would also be interesting is the maker of of Ancient Aliens. What is the name of that? Prometheus Productions. Prometheus Productions. Yeah. Why not? Just get the whole gang in on it. Everybody pile in. Everybody can get a. Producer's credit on this one, because it's going to be crazy. I like that point you brought out that he was in front of prominent people, leaders and, you know, just those higher ranking folks, because you got to ask yourself when in Daniel, it talks about how Nebuchadnezzar kept this court essentially of magicians and all different types. When Pharaoh has his own court magicians, they don't just get there because they're randomly like, oh, yeah, I heard this guy can do a trick or something. Promote him, you know, give him an amazing salary and take care of all of his wants and needs and let him attend my court. No, they had to at some point they had to prove themselves.

1:57:41 They had to do something miraculous. I'm sure that it could have been, oh, well, my my nephew or whatever was sick at one of the feasts, and then he managed to heal them. Now I promote him into a court magician because you've done something miraculous. It's just Satan and. It's just Satan and. And his angels, having been around humanity for thousands of years at this point, they know they have a playbook that is just really solid. It's like a dusty old playbook. And they're just like, yeah, OK, we need to get this situation. We know how this works. We know how this operates. Run this play, you know, get them in there and have have this happen because we know from just observing humanity what the effect will be once we get in there and do that. So, yeah, excellent point to bring that up.

1:58:30 Interesting. This is this is only the beginning, folks. And but we have one fascinating thing. Don't go away yet. This is this is really interesting. Did you know that Bledsoe saved the pope from an assassination? Pope Francis, this this is the icing on the cake. Watch this. It was 2015, I think this lady by the name of Pam Nance. She's a research scientist for the government and her home base. Wake Forest University. So Pam calls me. I was introduced to her by somebody and then I called her back. I'm so sure she says, Chris, I'm researching the paranormal and turn on this voice box. They call it spirit box. I've never heard of such. There's a little device about like the size of a cell phone that has this awful noise that comes out of it. It sounds like we talked about this static static white noise pilot mountain.

1:59:23 And she would ask you questions. And it kept saying, Chris, UFO, Chris UFO. So she gets on the phone. With move on and finds out who is Chris and the UFO. Well, they gave her my number right away. So she comes to the house and we're out at the burning tree. She could take six of these recorders and let them run for hours, each one. And they might get one voice out of 40 hours of recording where we got over 350 recorded clips. But one thing it said, it said, Chris, the pope is in danger. Help him. You must help the pope. It was saying this. We got it on recording and she even made a PowerPoint with this with all these clips. You can listen to them. Are they online? No. OK, I've got them. But with all this happening, I knew that the pope was going to Philadelphia.

2:00:17 He was already had been into Washington and was making his trip to New York City and he was going to go to Philadelphia. Was this Pope Francis? It was Francis, right? When they were going, he was going to make a speech at the Congress of the original Congress Hall in in Philadelphia. So I call a friend that called me last night. The guy you asked about who it was he called. Yeah, I said I called this guy. I said, Hey, Larry. You won't believe this. I said this thing this lady has and I'm I'm talking to him right after all this investigation. I said, this thing keeps saying that the pope's in trouble. It's coming to Philadelphia. He said, you must help him. It was saying that it's not you can hear it must help him. So immediately, my friend says, well, maybe you should come to Philadelphia and see what we can do about it. So a couple three days later, I'm in Philadelphia and when I walk in this house, there stands John Alexander.

2:01:05 First time I ever met him. And that's when we started remote viewing. The whole first chapter of this book, and they actually arrested a guy for trying to blow him up. I even told him he was going to use a bomb. I saw where the boat ramp beside Ben Franklin Bridge. I drew it all out and they verified it. And so they got Secret Service involved. And John calls Jim at Monaco. And Joe says the same exact thing that I say. And so from that point, they shut down Philadelphia, closed every access into it and made people walk from the Jersey side across the bridge. You had to walk in. You couldn't drive and arrested a guy for that. So that's how I met John. And. It was a real thing. What happened there now got the attention of a lot of people. Did you ever speak with the pope? I never had personally. I had words. I had messages relayed to me from the Vatican through Diana and my friend from NASA, Tim Taylor. And he sent me pictures of orbs and of St.

2:01:55 Francis with these orbs appear. And he had these hands were zapped. And at that time, I couldn't use my hands. I could barely button my pants. They get my kids to button my pants and couldn't tie my shoes. Couldn't hardly pull my pants out. My hands were just inflamed. This is the arthritis. Rheumatoid, which is an autoimmune disease, not immune disease. OK, there's a lot packed in there, but the long and the short of it is apparently and you got to as we've seen everything in the story happened so far, he doesn't provide a lot of evidence for this other than that one picture showing that he he met these guys and it's how he met Pelosi, Pelosi, whatever her name is. We've had her on. We've talked about her on the show as well. I think it's interesting. I think it's interesting that if he's remote viewing, which is not a credible biblical way of doing things, it's more of an occult way of doing things.

2:02:53 I think it's more indicative of demonic activity. And if what he's saying is true, where they he actually did see this whole thing go down and he warned people and they went and they caught the guy with this this that was going to assassinate the pope. Why is the pope? Why is he always in on this stuff? Why is it always the Vatican that's surrounding this? This is all this stuff. That's what I really want to know. Something weird's going on here because the Vatican has been all throughout this whole episode and everywhere we go, there's something with the Vatican and this stuff. He even said and I don't know have any way to prove this, but he said he has pictures of Pope Francis with these orbs around his hands. Boy, I would love to see that if that's true. What do you think? What do you think about all this? Well, using those spirit boxes to that's another odd type of a medium to take to have communication with your your friends who are hovering around because that's essentially it's like an electronic Ouija board.

2:03:58 You know, the they can't really communicate, sometimes outright. So you go through these the process of hooking things up or setting up a board. or channeling together and i think that has the influence of basically people are funneling their faith into something they're they're saying i want this to happen i really show yourself give me a voice on the recording so then they go out of their way to say oh you must save the pope now you're on a mission a divine mission to save the pope from a bombing and no one i yeah the whole thing is just that's probably the most fantastical thing he's said uh most fantastical claim he's made i would like to uh see if the vatican has any recognition of we want to give a thanks to chris bledsoe for preventing uh the bombing of the pope on his trip to uh the united states because that's just something that's so crazy yeah and yeah he also mentioned his connection with basolka and she is the catholic professor at i think university of wilmington who has has written a book and has done the research and it's just crazy like i said another one of those characters who's connected to this thing it's that that weird click and as you're saying it's all going back to the vatican and putting the pope as this really significant man a significant figure i'm not going to launch into the whole spiel right now because actually pretty recently we covered it and if you have an interest in the papacy uh the identity of the beast and how some of this plays out in revelation i'm going to encourage you if you're new to the channel or if you just haven't seen it yet go to our channel click on videos and it's pope preaches no more fossil fuels to heal a wound it's the most recent as of right now the most recent video that's available check that out because some scriptures provided and i go into detail about kind of that role that it plays but needless to say the papacy will be playing a major role in end as it has played a major role in shaping and influencing christians in uh some very negative ways for many centuries now absolutely absolutely especially as we've seen in the news he's going around and trying to um gather all the religions together and some ecumenical ecumenical movement for some reason and i think he knows what's going on there and i think we do too but um the world doesn't yet and i think we're going to see them beginning beginning of that in the next couple years as it's already started to happen matthew this has been an amazing episode any any last thoughts or you want to say prayer oh just about that time frame what he was describing and i've heard him describe it before i believe it's it should be happening around spring of 2025 and again if you're a fan of the channel you know that that is a date that pops up again and again so we're getting pretty close to that uh 2025 we're almost crossing into 2024 let's see what happens uh let's see how things go down of course we're not gonna pin it all on satan's prophecies but if he's trying to make a move they've advertised that day a whole lot and not just recently we're talking back even over a hundred years people have been saying that it would be a significant time period and a major awakening and a shift for humanity so let's find out the way i look at it jesus is coming soon and that's what i'm excited for no matter what type of tribulation we have to go through the the end for me is in sight and i i can't wait to uh have that prize and eternal life and not just eternal life here on this wicked world eternal life in a beautiful new earth with god almighty as the just total governor of of everything it's going to be wonderful right can't wait for that uh did you want me to pray us out yeah let's do it okay father in heaven i want to thank you for giving us the opportunity to come on tonight to discuss things i want to lift up chris bledsoe and his family in prayer it's a very sad situation seeing chris shed those tears on the podcast i feel that tears like that don't come easy and that he has someone looking at you and is looking to get more involved in this project cassette now enthusiastically we appreciate your that projects that are twists we appreciate your suffered immensely at the hands of the enemy. And I pray for his deliverance. I pray that he turns away from false gods and puts his faith squarely in you, and that you can just let those

2:08:54 scales fall off of his eyes, that you unstuff his ears, and that this situation becomes so clear to him that he turns away from it completely and runs into your arms. In Jesus's name, amen. Amen. Thank you so much, Matthew. Stick around just for a second. We're going to do an after show that we can put on Patreon. Folks, thank you so much for becoming a part of this amazing message. We try to get the word out once a week. We even have started another show, which Matthew is heading up, that talks about the even more stranger things that happen throughout the news. So if you want to be a part of this, if you think this is an important message, if you're getting value from this, join us on Patreon, patreon.com slash strange normal. Right now, there is a 20% 25% discount on joining the Discord, so you can communicate with us every day and see what we're posting, because we can't air everything that has come out. There's so much that's happening right now. I almost did the show half about Blood Zone, half about some other stuff that's coming out. So to get the updated information on what's happening, join us on Patreon, patreon.com slash strange normal. Partner with us, because we're a ministry, and we're trying to get the word out, and we love you all. We look forward to that day where we all are spending the time together. But until then, my name is Bradley, and this had been pure strangeness and absolute normalcy. Strange normal. See you next time. You're watching Strange Normal, where the truth...