Charlie Kirk & UFOs: Revival, Violence, & What's Coming Next

0:04 Good evening strangers. Let's get started with another live show tonight. We haven't done one of those for a while We're gonna talk a lot about Well what we normally talk about on here, but we're gonna tie it to What happened with mr. Kirk It's very interesting. But more than that What's happening past that is even more interesting. So you're gonna have to stick around for that. Let me pull up my notes here We have a lot happening The OJ releases a statement about the Mormon Church recently something that happened today Major major things are happening in the US and it's causing people to go into revival mode What does that mean for this country? What does it mean for Bible prophecy? Is this true? Possibly Stay tuned. The system is totally rigged and broken The Spirit will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five distant planets in the galaxies That are Coming to one inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet it is now 89 seconds to midnight. This is the closest the world has ever been. I still think these are what people call angels I'm dying to know what they've got to say pretty severe suffering brings in these entities have the ability to appear in any form Good evening strangers. It's another strange night on strange normal. Thanks for joining us. I like it when I see the amount of viewers Go up in the triple digits before I get in here. That's fantastic. It looks like a lot of people are in here enjoying themselves tonight We've been on a tour. I'm not touring This is just I have to go do these things and I think it's very important where I go to different churches in the country and the world and we talked about these things that other churches they they don't want to talk about or they don't want to Offend anybody or seem too strange so they bring in mr. Strange to talk about it And I have been really enjoying meeting all you guys everywhere in the United States. And we're going to Denmark at the end of the month, October. Not this month, but the next October. And I've had people reach out to me and say, hey, you know what? If you're sponsoring all these churches, you're paying for all your tickets, I want to pay for you to come out there. Hey, the truth is, people reach out to me and they do say, hey, we'll pay for your flight out and stuff like that. But there are churches that do reach out and they say, we can't afford it. But let me know when you're in your area and maybe we can drive you over here during the week. And I said, well, we'll see what we can do. So if there is somebody out there who's like, hey, you know what? What you're doing is a good thing. We have a little bucket that we put our little tokens in, those ancient tokens that you use in the vending machines and the payphones a long time ago. Anything you have helps us to continue this message around the world. And I'm excited to not only do that, but also go to Denmark. I'm going to bring my family with me because I think it'd be fun to see the other side of the world and go into Europe a little bit. But it's not just a tour for me. It's people like you that are reaching out and saying, this is an important thing you're doing. And we're going to pay for your flight out here. Not my whole family, of course, but for me. So let's dig into what's going on today, though. I think it's super important. The Department of Justice released a statement yesterday because they've had a huge amount of what they feel is unjust murder inside the and we're not going to we're not going to mince words tonight. If I get canceled from YouTube, so be it. But I mean, this is a serious episode. I've got an hour of B-roll just to go through. So it's going to be a long episode. So get ready. We're going to tackle a lot of things tonight because we haven't been live for a while

5:17 and we gotta we gotta dig into this, folks. So it's going to be get ready for four hours. No, I don't know. Maybe not that long. Let's let's listen to what they said in this Department of Justice. And this is before the events that happened today. If you don't know what happened today, we had a huge church shooting at a Latter-day Saints church and they burnt the church down afterwards. It's a terrible thing that happened. And so things are really ramping up here in the States. Something's really happening that's that's making people think something's wrong and it needs to be fixed. How this United States is going to handle that is going to be a huge issue. But meanwhile, let's just watch and see what happens here. Watch this. We're witnessing a new era of political violence. Assassins have tried to murder President Trump twice and tried to kill Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh in Minnesota legislators and even children attending Mass were gunned down in cold blood in two separate incidents. And an assassin targeted and murdered. Our friend. Charlie Kirk, a sniper shot. Charlie Kirk, a sniper shot. Charlie Kirk, a sniper shot. shot three people at a Texas ice facility, and now more than 200 violent rioters were at a Chicago ice facility chanting, arrest ICE, shoot ICE. At least one had a gun. We've seen this before.

6:38 We saw it in Portland and with the LA riots. These are not peaceful protests. These are coordinated attacks by radical extremists and they end now. Anyone who threatens or assaults our federal officers will be arrested and charged federally, not in some liberal state court. Same goes for anyone who's funding and aiding these extremists. You will be dismantled brick by brick. We are taking our country back. Make America safe again. Man. And she put the Justice Department seal on it. That's pretty significant when we're saying stuff like this and we're saying, hey, something significant is happening here. And then the very next day, they have a significant... A significant? A significant shooting happened at what people think is the nicest religion.

7:30 I'm using my finger quotes. I do love Mormons. I think they are the nicest people. I do love them. And if any Mormons are watching, I'm not bragging, nagging on you at all. I think it's interesting that many, many churches are out there and we all go by the same standard, which is the biblical standard, or we should. And they... Some churches are portrayed as nicer than others. I won't name any names that are not so nice. But the Mormons, they are... They have a nice personality when you meet them at the door. I don't agree with their theology, but I do think it's interesting that... You guys had a shooting. What is going on? So I'm fascinated to see what that's all about. But this is kind of what happened if you don't know what's going on. Let's get into it.

8:22 We begin tonight with... That breaking news out of Grand Blanc Township, where a mass shooting at a church has left at least two people dead and eight others injured. The shooter is also dead. We've also learned that Grand Blanc schools will be closed tomorrow because of this tragedy. And the shooting happened just before 10.30 a.m. this morning at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Police say 40-year-old Thomas Sanford from Burton rammed a vehicle into the front of the church, got out, and opened fire on the parishioners. The suspect was also set on fire inside. Police also believe the suspect deliberately set fire to the church. Mike, this has been an absolutely horrific, tragic, heartbreaking day. I just want to show you the current status of the church, as you can see right there. Look at this.

9:10 Man, oh, man. That thing burned straight to the ground and they say that the shooter decided he was just gonna firebomb the church as well. I mean, it was an enormous church, and it's all burned. And by the way, the fire won't be on for a long time. It's not gonna happen. the way just as a side note this guy's using a phone instead of a whole camera crew this is the future of reporting folks right there as quick as possible this is what's left behind of the church i've been here since 11 30 this morning and what you can see right now is just a fleet of cars over here which belong to investigators as the investigation continue what happened so we were driving away uh we were trying to gather as many people as we could there was a couple of elderly ladies that we were trying to get into safety so we got them into our car i saw the active shooter come out of the building and at that point i just started trying to drive away he pointed his gun at our car and fired three shots two of them went through our windshield and just missed me and luckily everybody else um i think this is just glass strap shrapnel that got me um and then we got out and then that's now we're just trying to kind of find out why and how and what's happened how are you right now shocked um the it's just i think i'm just sad i'm i'm worried about people that that we attended church with that we don't know the status of them i think it's just confused i guess right now it's probably what i'd say you know you see you see this kind of stuff all the time and you just think i guess it could happen but no not really it it makes no sense it never will make sense no it doesn't and it doesn't make sense and it's it's really aggravating to hear people that are of my age you know you when you're younger you hear about these things you go oh well you know they're older uh the adults will take care of that but now that they're younger than me i'm i have to think in my head what's broken in these people that they feel that they need to go and take lives of everybody like this and what happened and that's not the only life that was taken and in fact i i did a whole video on charlie kirk and i deleted it before i uploaded it because it just it was just too soon i i didn't want to put a video out and just for to tell you guys about what's happening just for clicks this is not the point of this channel is to because that's i'll be honest with you guys this is how youtube works you find a topic that's trending you tie it to your channel and people are fascinated by it and they click on it because they want to see what's going on about it because attention is the currency but that's not the point of what i'm trying to do i'm not trying to just push stuff out there just to gain currency or followers or anything like this i'm the goal here is to report on the strange bizarre world we live in and show you how it ties to the bible what's happening here and so speaking of people that have been shot let's talk a little bit about charlie kirk and our current events in life and how this ties into everything that's going on did you know that charlie kirk interviewed chris bledsoe now if you don't know who chris bledsoe is chris is someone we talk about on the channel quite a bit his his um his uh him and his uh son ryan bledsoe were on a few podcasts talking about their experience and going to church and being the the deacons and and members of the church and then having a strange experience of healing and the church saying absolutely not this is demonic we on this channel are going to be talking about how this ties into everything that's going on i don't believe it's demonic but it's it's interesting that this is going far out beyond and the message that they gave him is by the way we want you to tell more people about this let's dig into that i'm kind of curious what uh what what charlie kirk actually said about this and we'll dig further into the charlie kirk problem as well in just a moment um here we go and there's a lot of alien chatter right now and joining us now is chris bledsoe author of the book ufo of god the extraordinary true story of christianity and the story of christianity and the story of christianity and chris bledsoe chris thank you so much for taking the time i cannot possibly introduce your story as well as you can so tell us your extraordinary story well i'm glad to be on here charlie thank you for having me and um it would take a while to tell the whole thing because it um it's ongoing but basically um it started in 07 with a fishing trip with my son and my wife and my wife and my three other guys and turned out to be four hours of missing time and a whole lot more so i want to

13:58 preface it real quick we're not going to go through his entire story because i think i've probably told that story if you want to go back and watch the videos of what happened to chris bledsoe he is a pinnacle uh part of this deception that's beginning here and with spiritualism and he should be talked about more i think i've done three or four episodes on him but um what you see in the background here the guy on the left is actually uh looking at here i think it's to the left because my screen's flipped so uh but he's he's seeing lights in the sky and these lights in the sky are not like a cylindrical ufo ship you see in hollywood and he's seeing these round glowing fireballs in the sky and what we have found is in all over the place this is amazing to me because this is not something that's taught in church but this is absolutely the truth i can prove it from from inspiration i can prove it from uh many different sources extra outside the church but what happens is when you see angelic entities oftentimes you're seeing in these these round glowing orbs you're seeing angelic presences right here is what you're seeing and so he's talking and he says hey you know when this thing appears it gives me a message it appears as a woman he's going to talk about that in a second and this woman says there's going to be major problems that are going to come upon this world and we're here to wake the people up i want you to introduce us to the world is what this woman who calls herself hathor yes the same hathor that's in egyptian mythology she says we're going to wake the people up what did roger marnot say about this i'm going way too far into it but i think this is good to just spill the beans ahead of time roger marnot a a famous uh occultist that became christian he said that spirits demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of this planet and these spirits are spiritual powers this whole human civilization might be having to move in the future i mean she's saying that tentacles come to earth and the gods have created the magnificent galaxies coming to earth to tell of a major impending destruction of the planet unless something proper is done to avoid it interesting huh because we really haven't had major uh disasters catastrophes man-made or uh natural on earth right now yet yet but they said that these things are going to appear before that if you read a book i'd like to and it's not just like, you know, ghostly figures. It's physical, it's literal, and they have agreements that are made with these things. It's bizarre, and even if I've read over this book many times, I didn't grasp that until I read it with this in mind, and what was like, wow, it's been right there the whole time. In fact, you go to page 552 and 556, it talks about this external appearance of these things in a way you had never heard before. It even says it happened in the Hebrew days. Look for that. That's interesting. But let's listen to what else he says, Chris Bledsoe says, to Kirk and see if Kirk figures this out. He's a bright guy. Listen.

17:00 And, but yeah, it's all in the book, this complete story. And, and, In 2007, January the 8th, I was, I had just come through, I was a home builder, building 100 homes a year, and the 9-1-1 desert storm thing wrecked our economy and caught me off guard with too many houses on the market, and I was pretty much down on my luck, and at the bottom, I mean, I was really having a hard time, lost my home, had four children at the time that were little, and, having to struggle to, to even get them school lunches. And, so I was out crying out to the heavens. To the heavens. You know, help me. And suddenly these three large balls of fire, they look like the setting sun, that color, when you can look at it, it doesn't hurt your eyes. Okay, so I want you to really dwell on what he's saying here. He said he called out to the heavens, whatever's out there. I'm not a proponent in the idea that you have to be, say, a specific name of, of, of, of God, but I do believe Jesus Christ is, is absolutely Lord, and you have to say that you're, you know, you're talking to the creator here. This is important that you specify which God, lowercase g, or highercase, uppercase g, you're talking to. But, since there are so many languages, I don't think God is like, well, you didn't say Jesus, so I'm not listening to you.

18:41 You understand what I'm saying? I hope everyone's clear on this. Specify who you're speaking with. Sometimes when I pray, I say, you know, creator, Jesus, please help me. You know, this is very important. But he's saying he's calling out to the heavens. Hey, anybody out there, you know what the Bible says about this? It says that Satan is the Lord of the air. So, be careful who you're calling out to when you're calling out to the heavens. I got another video that he specifies that he's just calling out to whatever is out there. And then he later specifies, oh yeah, it was God. How does he know? Which God was it? He got an answer. It really begs the question, can Satan answer prayers that you pray? Yeah, he can. He's given permission to if you have a certain character in mind, or perhaps you're not really talking to God. Don't push away the Holy Spirit. You might get something else. I had no clue when I walked back up to the campfire where they were fishing that four hours had passed. And for the longest time, I didn't know what had happened there. And I still have vague memories of what happened while I was away. But it followed me home and ended up starting to interact with my whole family, my wife and my kids. And to this day, it's been witnessed by hundreds of people with me. I don't know the best way to tell what happened in those four hours other than I was sick. I had Crohn's disease and I was unable to work and I was crying out. And when they brought me back, I had the Crohn's disease. It went away. But that started a whole lot of trouble because I was born and raised in the Bible Belt. And I came home talking about, you know, not being sick anymore. And then the whole community basically started telling me I was playing with the devil. And it's just been one more struggle from the very beginning of this thing. But it was a blessing to me. The whole thing was a blessing.

21:10 But it turned out to be really hard on my children, my wife and my family. So just so I understand, according to your recollection, you're there, you cry out to God, there's four hours of missing time. Do you believe that you were transported up to a UFO? Is that correct? Well, I don't really know that. What I do know is what I saw were balls of fire. Never saw a mechanical machine. It was just three large balls of fire. Actually, more than that, there were three that landed across the river in front of the whole group. OK, so listen, he said he never saw a machine. He saw three balls of fire and they landed. In fact, he shows in some videos, he shows where on this property they landed and they leave like this, this big round shape in the middle of the field. Consequently, not consequently, it's interesting to me that when I left my home in California, my big property that we sold to come out to Tennessee here, we we were talking to the neighbors and they were asking, so what do you do with this big with this bento building that you're you have? And I said, well, I do a studio.

22:24 We talk a little bit about the spiritualism, UFOs and stuff and what they actually are is demonic activity. And they're like, oh, well, you know, there was actually a UFO on your property. I was like, what are you kidding me? They said, yeah, this big, giant, round ball of fire came down. It made a perfect round circle. Of dead, burnt grass in the middle of this area. And the fire department came and they were like ants crawling across the property. It was very interesting. Then no one else talked about it ever again. So these things are happening and the spiritualism is going to become a much bigger thing coming soon. So let's continue to hear what he has to say about this. And then three up at the road where I was missing time. But I think the balls of light took me. Um, I really don't know. I know they look for. Me for, for hours and couldn't find me. And we were down in the middle of nowhere. So there was nowhere for me to go. And, um, but yeah, it was, they definitely took me somewhere.

23:26 And so why do you think that these are aliens or whatever filler term and not, not spirits? What do you speculate them to be? Cause you say then your, your crones was solved. Is that right? It was healed afterwards. Is that, is that okay? Well, to give context, I've struggled with this for 17 years now. What is it that took me? Um, all I can go back to is I was praying. I was calling on God or whoever's up there. I was desperate. Um, I had just come through a near death experience and I was in able to work 45 years old with four children. Um, I had just come through a near death experience and I was unable to come to church. And, and sick, really sick. And I was crying out to something, whoever's up there to hear me, I was raising a church. And so, um, when it came, it took me and brought me back. It left me not knowing anything. I had no clue what happened other than my crones was gone. And we saw these things. Everybody saw them, the whole group did, and we still do to this day. In fact, we study them with government officials, with military people, scientists, and so on.

24:49 Hmm. Okay, so that's not the end of this clip. Then he's going to talk a lot more about this, and Kirk is going to continue to question him, because he's very confused by what in the world he's talking about here, because why is he describing angelic presences with UFOs, and how does that tie together? But what he said was rather interesting. I'm looking over at my screen over here to see what's next. But what I want to show you is that these things are something the government is actually having a big deal with right now. In fact, one of the clips we haven't talked about, if you remember, you go back a couple episodes from the live stream, and we did a live stream on a hearing, a congressional hearing, that had a bunch of these whistleblowers come out, and they said, hey, look, we have seen stuff. We know something's happening here. You need to listen. Look into this, this, and this, and this. And one of the things that they said was, look, here's more video evidence that something's happening here. The government, this isn't from videos from the 80s anymore. They're pulling stuff from 2024 and showing that the government is shooting at these things.

25:53 They said there's these blobs, these giant round tic-tacs up there in the sky, and we're just going to send a hellfire missile at them, expensive hellfire missile, because things don't really last after you hit one of these things. But it didn't explode. In fact, it ricocheted off and continued. How does that happen? I'll explain how it happens, because this is the channel of answers, not of questions. But watch this hellfire missile hit this tic-tac on the military camera. Check this out. The newly released video captured by a U.S. Reaper drone shows a glowing orb off the coast of Yemen. Suddenly, on the left side of your screen, you see a hellfire missile zip in. Strike that unidentified object and bounce right off it.

26:40 When we slow the video down, you see the hellfire missile continue to travel on its path, that trajectory becoming clearer from this zoomed-out angle. Not shown is a second Reaper drone that launched the missile. Congressman Eric Burleson shared the video at a House Oversight Committee on what the military calls unidentified aerial phenomena, better known as UFOs. That's a hellfire missile smacking into that. Okay, so I'm going to pause it right here, just so you guys can see exactly what's going on, or not. Okay, so I'm going to pause it again right here. Check this out. When it hits this thing, do you see those three objects that came off right there? Those are three round, tiny little orbs. And they follow this thing. It's not like they fall into the ocean like shrapnel. They follow and continue following this tic-tac.

27:36 All the way to oblivion, so that you don't see it anymore. Wow. Okay, number one, the military doesn't know what this is. They're not going to shoot at something they don't know what it is. They're not going to shoot at something that they know it's theirs, right? So they think, okay, let's figure out what this thing is, shoot at it, and ask questions later. We'll at least take it down so we can get it, just like they shot the balloon down. Remember the China weather balloon that they shot down? So they shot at this thing, and it's like... All of a sudden, it became four different entities and continued. My theory is, and this is just a theory, but my theory is, is this is a company. A company of seraphim and cherubim. That's what you're seeing right here. And those three things right there are ones that have separated from the group to push this missile out of the way physically.

28:28 Now, we don't know everything about the spiritual nature of things. When we say it's a spiritual entity, does that mean it's like you can reach your hand through it? It's like a ghost? I think we need to get away from the idea that when we talk about spiritual things, they are ethereal. Because I do believe that the Bible talks about how these angelic presences have a face. They can eat food. It says that multiple times in the Bible. If they can do that, maybe they are more physical than we think. And so, can they interact with physical things? Absolutely, they can. Think of Roger Murnau and how... He made the pictures fly around the room, right? So, these things right here, these objects, are a group of these things. And I don't know how it works. I was talking to... I did an interview with Doug Batchelor and he says, I don't understand this whole thing.

29:21 But maybe this thing has like a bubble around it or something. I think we kind of see through a glass darkly right now. So, I'm not going to really try to theorize on this. But these presences around glowing orbs... Orbs. This type of stuff is well known in history. In the annals of history from the Catholic annals and all this other stuff. When they see these things. Demonic entities or good entities. If you go into... Even inspiration says, I saw basically a fireball come towards me and I went into vision. These are absolutely spiritual beings. Don't know how it works. But there's something to do with that. So, you can go... You can go further, right? And you can say... So, do they have wings? They don't apply to our physics.

30:12 So, why would they have wings? Unless they were just trying to show you that they can fly. I don't know. Okay. Let's not dig too deep into things we don't understand. But I think it's good that we're understanding this is spiritual. This is not some random machine up there. This is not a UFO with a metal hood that needs its engine worked on every once in a while. This is something else. Okay. Continue. ...that UFO and just bounced right off. And it kept going. It kept going. And it looks like the debris was taken with it. Yeah. What the hell is that? We've never seen a Hellfire missile hit a target and bounce off. Lou Elizondo is a former senior intelligence officer with the Pentagon. The Hellfire makes a hit, a kinetic strike on something solid. There's usually not much left of whatever it is it's hitting.

31:03 It's very, very... Very, very destructive. What seems to happen is that the missile is either redirected or in some case perhaps glances off the object and continues on its way. A recent government report revealed the government received more than 750 new UAP sightings in the 2024 fiscal year, leaving lawmakers digging into the mystery and national security concerns posed by these objects. Does this video scare you guys? Yes or no? Yes. Wiggins? Yes. Yes. Me too. There's a lot of information that's not in that video, like what mission they were on. And as they said, what are we even looking at here? We do know that the U.S. military was conducting airstrikes against Houthi targets at the time. Pentagon officials tell CBS News, no comment. Charlie Daggett of CBS News, Washington. Okay. So let's continue back to see when he saw this object. He says they look like the sun. Now you can kind of understand why they think that they worship the sun back in the Bible times.

32:10 Well, Ra, the sun god, would appear as a giant glowing ball of light, fire emanating from it. And all of a sudden, boom, here he was or she was or whatever it was. It, let's just call it it. Maybe they're transgender. I don't know how it works, but they don't have gender. I'm just, that was a bad joke. Let me continue here. And we'll have a... And by the way, let me, let me just, let me just bring this out real quick. This is important. Politics are interesting, aren't they? I think as we get into politics with, with Kirk and all this stuff, this is going to be a short segment, just a rabbit trail real quick. I think it's important to point out that it's easy to think we should have more politics in the church. But the church has...

33:05 Always been separate from politics. And I'm going to define that further in this program, but just, just pay attention and stay with me. And I'll explain that in a bit. But let me give you one example. But specifically about homosexuality. Although we know you can't necessarily pretend to be one or the other, there are anomalies. Anomalies as if you were born with both genders. And if you are, you can be easily confused. And I think the church needs to be a little bit more respectful about this. Because sometimes, even though we all have problems, you, me, and everybody else, we seem to harbor the idea of this one specifically. And there are people that are really struggling. And there are people that really want to do the truth.

34:02 And they really do. They're just struggling with life. And so, for instance, this is a hypothetical. But if you're born with both, and you're told you're one, but actually you're the other, and then you find out later you need to be the other one because actually that's what you are, your mind has been altered because you've been brought up that way. And it's really, you're very confused in your head. And now you might act one way, and be made fun of that way, and be pushed away from the church. Because you were lied to as a kid. I think we need to be very careful. I'm not saying that there are absolute truths. But I think we need to be very careful about how we do this. And so, I just want to push that out there. Not because of anything that I've had in my life at all, but I think it's important, or experiences I've had, or family, or anything like that.

35:07 But primarily because, we're going to talk a lot about politics, and we're going to get into that a little bit today. And that's why politics are dangerous. Be kind to everybody, but also maintain truth. Love your neighbor, right? Okay, let's continue. We're going to dig further into this because that was what he said. But I really want to find out what else is happening with Kirk and this Bledsoe guy as they talk about this. Because this is where the lady comes in. The lady is called, sometimes called Mary by the Catholic Church. And so, he has an experience with her on Easter of all times. And he tells Kirk that. This is where Kirk's ears really perk up.

35:54 Listen. So, after years of receiving mixed responses from people, you had another encounter on Easter of 2012. Tell us about it. Yeah, that was the turning point. The change in the direction of where we were heading. For the first five years, it was pretty much a curse. Because when I would talk about it, the whole community just came down on me. And there were people trying to take my children away. They thought I was crazy. They were bringing holy water to the house. And sprinkling me and my property and my children.

36:41 And I'm crying. I'm saying, look, I was praying to God. I wasn't praying to the devil. And I don't get it. You know, I don't understand. So, it turned into be a laughing stock at school for my children. They were coming home and crying. And so, I got upset and decided that I'd never talk about it again. And when I did, the next experience was of this, all I can tell you, it was this most beautiful lady I have ever seen. She came. And she came in the middle of the night. And she told me, she said, you're not, this is your burden. You have to tell this. This is your burden. You have to tell this. You have to go on.

37:32 Tell the people that I've come to. Tell them more. Let's continue. Oh, I have to play. And if you will, I'll help you. I'll bless you. And let you film us and let you share our presence with the world. And so, help me from that point forward. I started being able to share with others. And I have done so with the highest authorities. And from CIA to DIA to U.S., the Department of Defense. To scientists from different colleges and universities. And it all happened after this beautiful lady came. And believe me, I was born and raised a Baptist, right? I had no idea who some spiritual female might would be.

38:26 But I don't see them as aliens, Charlie. I don't see it that way. I see them as spirits, basically. It was a spiritual experience for me then. And it still is to this day. But what? I can't put my thumb on it yet to tell you what it is we're dealing with. It's just going to take a lot more study. But I know how it reacts to me. I know what I say to make it come. So, Chris, I want to ask you, do you believe these are spirits? So, why is the term UFO involved? Just help me connect the dots here. Unidentified flying object, spiritual interactions. Because you obviously would not be the first person that I've ever met that has claimed to have interactions with angels or demons or an invisible dimension.

39:20 But you're now connecting it with a UFO. Help me understand that. Well, there's a reason I did that. I've studied this thing for the last 17 years with some of the best scholars out there. And going through the whole thing of what happened to me and still happening and the way it reacts, it's not the, I have seen mechanical machines. I have seen those. It appears that these orbs can morph into those. Okay, did you catch that, what he said there? He said he has seen mechanical machines and it appears that these things can morph into those. Well, I'm not disagreeing with his idea of this. I do believe that they can appear as many things.

40:09 I mean, think about it. If they can appear as your dead grandma, they can surely appear as a UFO, right? Like a helicopter or whatever they want. Either in your head or physically, I'm not sure. But we don't have to know that right now. But what I think is interesting is, just a few minutes before, he had said, no, I didn't see any machines. But now he said, I have seen machines. That really bothers me a little bit, because he said he didn't, but now he did. What bothers me a little bit more, though, is that he's actually communicating with these things. And it's making sense what they say, and it's lining up with Bible prophecy. That's what's killer here. So regardless of if he is twisting the truth a little bit, at least we know something else is happening here, and it's all lining up together. Let's continue. They can do either one. So, what I wanted to do is bring this front and center.

41:06 Is the UFO that we're seeing, is it related to the biblical story? And a lot of people think it is. And the way it reacts, I tend to believe it's very closely related in some way. So, they were UFOs. They were unidentified. All right. So, what he's trying to say here, and I don't think he did a very good job of explaining it, was that me, studying this a little bit for the last four or five years, I understand that when people see these things in the sky, they kind of put things together in their head, and they think, oh, well, that ship that's in the sky, it's got to be a ship that's always ever seen before. And so they have to have lights around the ship. No, that's not the case. When people see things in the sky, they're putting those lights together, and assuming it's a big metal craft. 90% of what people see in the sky, when they say they've seen a UFO, are glowing orbs they assume are lights on a craft.

42:09 But these glowing orbs are actually balls of fire, spiritual entities they've seen. In some cases, very few and far between, we do see that people report seeing actual physical Hollywood-style things. And this is statistics according to MUFON. This isn't statistics I've pulled out of my head somewhere, okay? This is, if you go look at the statistics every month from the MUFON reports, MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network. These are a bunch of volunteers that go out and they do reports on this stuff. They say they see that it's primarily lights, glowing orbs, things that people are seeing, spiritual entities. And it's the perfect disguise. Make those people look crazy so we can make sure that people don't actually see us, is what these entities are thinking. And to drive this idea home that Bledsoe isn't, he doesn't realize he's not talking to God.

43:02 This is what he says. This is what he says. You'll be amazed. And if you will, I'll help you. I'll bless you. Moving forward. And let you, you know, everybody asks me, how do you do this? Well, you know, I just say a prayer. That's the only way I can describe it. It's like a meditation for some or a prayer to me. Of course, I don't pray to them. I just pray to whoever's out there. Okay. So he's praying to just whatever's out there. It's like he said, he's praying to the heavens. Be very careful what you're praying to. I think that anything wants to answer your prayers. And they want to be as God answering prayers. So make sure you specify you're talking to the creator of the universe. You're talking to Jesus. And it's going to get really confusing when Satan appears as Christ on earth, because then who are you talking to?

43:58 You're talking to God. It's going to become very confusing for the ruling courts. God, of course, knows who you're talking to if you're talking to Christ. But if your motives are, hey, I want this selfish thing. Jesus, help me. And Jesus is appearing in Israel or somewhere somewhere. Then who are you talking to? I think at that time, you know, Michael will stand up. God will come back and be like, okay, we're done. We're done with this stuff. This is something else is happening here. All right. We've got two more clips of Charlie Kirk before we really get into the crazy stuff. Let's let's continue. You know, every and they took me and they took me and they brought me back and I was calling out to God for help.

44:47 And so was he? That's the confusing thing. It responded in that manner to me, but it was unidentified. So it is. I think the title is fitting. And I think that there's going to be there's a need for a whole lot more study here to see what it is that we're dealing with. I can tell you this of get thousands of emails, probably 5000 this month. And everybody wants to tell me their story. And the majority of the people that write me tell me 99% tell me that when they started seeing lights in the sky, it was because of trauma, a loved one passing away, mother, dad, child, and a whole lot more. So somehow another is tied, Charlie. And I think it's going to take a lot more work to find out. But and we're working on that. We're working. So.

45:51 So, Chris, what are you? Are you still a Christian after these experiences? Yeah. Okay. So he says, yeah, I'm still a Christian. But in other episodes, he said, no, I've actually started. In fact, his son said he started studying Egyptology and understanding the occult a little bit better. And they I believe they said they left the church because the church got what was convinced they were talking to demons. And so when he says, hey, I'm talking to God. Yeah, I don't believe that he thinks I'm going to deceive people and tell them I'm talking to God. No, I think he's truly confused. And absolutely hardheaded to believe that his experience trumps the Bible. This is how Satan works. It doesn't necessarily all the time. Like we do see amazing stories from Roger Murnau and these occultists that actually do understand what what the truth is.

46:43 But the majority, the majority of the time, I would even say ninety nine percent of the time. It's deception that Satan works through. That's why Jesus said in the Gospels. When the disciples, his closest friends asked him, tell us, tell us the signs of the end. Well, he said the first thing he says is don't be deceived because this is how the snake works. He deceives. He says, oh, yeah, I'll tell you a half truth. Everything you want, anything you want. You want you want technology. You want understanding. You want free energy. Do you want to feed the salt world hunger? Whatever you want, I'll give it to you. We'll we'll we'll fix health, global health care. All you have to do is come to me. And of course, that's not that's not the case.

47:33 He experienced this kind of health problems. I think this is actually a really good point. But I'm going to I'm going to wait until we hit the end of this clip right here. Yeah, I'll never change. So I'm stronger than I ever was. So then you believe that you are able to come in contact with angels. Is that is that your working hypothesis? That's my thought. Yes. Yes. That's what I believe. But I'm not 100 percent sure. But I can tell you, in 17 years of dealing with this, it's not tried to harm me. It's been blessings. And I've seen a lot of people healed from this. Blessings come from it. And it's in the book. There's stories about people in Washington that had blessings. From this people with cancers that disappear.

48:28 Why? I don't know. I have no clue. Do you believe that that these were messengers? Because that is the the word the word for angel in the Bible means messenger. Yes, I really believe I believe that. What what what is the main can you you said you can summon them at any time. Is that correct? Well, I don't like to use that word. Well, I don't like to use that word summon because that sounds dark. But simply what I do, I walk out and usually it's connected somehow another to where I don't have to do much but go outside. When I walk out, they see me and here they come. If they don't, I'll say a little prayer just like I did on the river. And and they respond to that in that manner. So what? So what what what has been their main message to you?

49:25 Hmm. Hmm. Good question. The world's in trouble, Charlie. I think we're at a crossroads and we've got to wake up. And that's the main message I'm getting here. That is time that we all come together and quit fighting over what we perceive that we know when we really don't know what we think we know. I think we're at the crossroads of a new world and a new knowledge. And I think they're going to help bring that about. Now I really like you. Now you ask the best question anyone's ever asked. I could talk about the Sabbath all day long. All right. We're going to get in that in a second. But I want to go back. That was the last clip that we talked about just a minute ago. I think it's interesting that he says that they had healings. Isn't it? Isn't it? Isn't that fascinating? So do we have any? Well, you know. Well, you know what?

50:21 I'm going to play this one clip because we haven't played this for a long time. And OK, the next clip is 335. I'm going to pull this in right here because I forgot about this clip. This is where Morneau says that these things do appear. This is Roger Morneau, the former cultist that became Christian. This is what he says. Listen. And the priest told us he had. We talked to him quite a while. And then he said, could I have a little bit more? Your time. I want to do something very fascinating. He says the grain plain, the master's grain plain for harvesting the nations for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the Greek controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued after we express ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits.

51:11 And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff. Because he says spirits, demon spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. And he went on saying that they will claim. To have out of body experiences. The people are not explaining about the fact. That the spirits will show themselves willing to give valuable guidance. That will not only help people avoid. The district of the planet. But it would cause it to enter into a higher state of existence. For instance, he said the spirits will promise. It is a big word promise that if their recommendations are followed carefully.

52:18 They will usher in a glorious new age. Of peace and prosperity. And there will be. Well, there'll be no more wars. See. There'll be no more famines. There'll be no more people getting unhappy with one another. Neighbors will love neighbor. And social unrest will not take place no more. It'll be. There'll be. Perfect happiness for a thousand years. That's what the spirit is going to promise. Perfect happiness for a thousand years. Where have you heard that from? I've heard it from pulpits. This new age concept of the age of Aquarius is being taught as biblical truth. In some places. Now, will there be a thousand years of peace? Absolutely. It will be in heaven.

53:05 Because Christ comes. And we meet him in the air. According to Bible prophecy. We don't meet him on earth. The Bible actually specifically says. Don't. If Jesus is over here. Don't go. Because that's not Jesus. It's going to seem like it is. He's going to do healings. How do we know this? Because Satan loves to counterfeit. Let me bring up some good old fashioned Bible real quick. I think that's important. That we actually talk about this. Let's talk about false healings real quick. Have we ever in scripture seen where Satan tries to counter what God does? Yeah. Well think about Exodus 7. Where it talks about Pharaoh's magicians. Right? They try to challenge what Moses is displaying. And saying, hey look. We can do snakes too. We can make the water turn to blood. There's a limit on what Satan can do.

53:56 Because he can't do miracles like God can. Think about, for instance, 2 Thessalonians 2 9-10 says, Even him who is coming is after the working of Satan. All power, signs, and lying wonders. In other words. He's going to have signs and wonders. Right? Matthew 24 24. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that if it were possible they would deceive even the elect. Well Brad. This doesn't talk about, this talks about signs and wonders. It doesn't talk about healings though. Where do we find that? Think of the pool of Bethesda. The pool of Bethesda is a perfect example of what God didn't do. When Jesus came to the pool of Bethesda, did he heal everybody there? No.

54:42 Everyone was focused on the pool. Right? There was one guy who he knew really really wanted to be healed and he went up to him and ignored the pool. He could have stirred the water and said everyone get in the pool. But the rule was, according to what people thought, was that if the water stirred in the pool of Bethesda, the first one to get in is the one that gets healed. Well how did they think this? Well because it's happened before. So is this a mark of how God works? No. Because God heals everybody if they want it, if they truly believe. Satan wants that idea of competition. You versus me. I'm going to push you out of the way so you can't, even though you're crippled, get to the pool of Bethesda and I can get in there first and get my broken leg healed or whatever it is that you're happening. Is that doing unto others? Is that seeing how we should treat other people?

55:39 No. These healings came from Satan. That's how it worked. And can Satan actually do miracles? No, he can't. So let's find out how this happened because I think there's a really, really good quote from Selected Messages, Book 2, page 53. It says, wonderful scenes with which Satan will be closely connected will soon take place. God's word declares that Satan will work miracles. He will make people sick. No. So they're not miracles. He makes people sick. In other words, he makes people have Crohn's disease, right? Makes people sick, just like Bledsoe had Crohn's disease, and then will suddenly remove them with his satanic power.

56:26 Then will they be regarded as healed. This will test not just the people, but specifically the church that I believe is a true church. The church that has the... Keeps the commandments of God and has the faith of Jesus Christ. This is a test for that group of people. Those who believe the truth, have the testimony, and also keep following the commandments, not because we can do it on our own, but because we have Christ living in us. Amen? So this is interesting because that's exactly what Bledsoe is saying. So anybody that thinks, oh, this isn't part of Bible prophecy, this is absolutely Bible prophecy. We're seeing fulfillment of Bible prophecy happening in our day. This is the very beginning, the beginning of it.

57:13 Because Satan doesn't work in immediates usually. He always has this long periods of time. For instance, if you look at Revelation 13, will the Sunday law come upon us quickly? Well, it's been coming upon the whole world for the last 2,000 years. I mean, since 321 AD, Constantine... Constantine has been pushing this idea. This idea of everyone should worship on Sunday. Interesting, huh? I digress. We'll dig into that later, because I think that's actually coming up. Speaking of Sunday, what did... I think it's interesting that this very smart guy, Charlie Kirk, kind of got into this. He understood this. He understood the Bible. He could quote it really well. He reads 100 books a year, when America, primarily, barely reads one a year.

58:05 And so he had all this data stored up. And he said, you know what? There's something about this keeping the commandments of God and having the faith of Jesus Christ, which is Revelation 14, 12. There's something about that that is the true church. Let's dig into that here, if I can find it. Oh, here we go. 335. Over. Cut. Now I really like you. Now you ask the best question anyone's ever asked. I could talk about the Sabbath all day long. Last July, you know, I was traveling all across the world. I traveled all across country last year. I was getting really stressed and just worn down. Typical stuff that happens on the road. And a pastor friend of mine said, Charlie, you got to take a Sabbath. People that honor the Sabbath live longer. We know this with the Seventh-day Adventists. They actually are happier. They have better health outcomes. So I want you to think about that. So Friday night to Saturday night, no one can reach me.

58:52 And I wake up, you know, I wake up on Saturday and I open up my phone. 600 text messages, 900, whatever. But it is the best 24 to 25 hours. Everything about disconnecting from modernity is good for you. It isn't arguable. But this is... This is a material fact. But why is it that we have forgotten it? What makes the Sabbath so unique is that it is a cathedral built in time. Well, for me personally, I work like crazy for six days. On Friday night, even Sunday morning, I turn my phone off and I try to stop. I try to make it distinct. I try to make it different. I will say there is debate in some theological circles that we are bound to it because it predated the law. God rested after creation. Honestly, something was told to us on Sinai that we shouldn't forget. That, like, you shouldn't work for seven days. In the retelling of the Ten Commandments in the Book of Deuteronomy, the only difference of the retelling of the Ten Commandments is when Moses says, Hey, you shouldn't work seven days because you are no longer a slave.

59:46 Every Friday night, I take a Jewish Sabbath, turn off my phone. Friday night to Saturday night, the world cannot reach me and I get nothing from the world. It will bless you infinitely. I think God has given us a preservative for a civilization and I believe it is the Sabbath. Right? So, take the Sabbath. Take it seriously. So, he says, take the Sabbath. Take it seriously. And the only contentious item I would add in there is the Sabbath isn't Jewish. The Sabbath, according to Christ, is made for man. And that's why it's so important. So that we can remember that God is the Creator. The Creator God. The one we should be talking to. Not any God in the heavens. Anywhere that we should be talking to. Not like Bledsoe. I think that's probably why Revelation talks about God. Revelation talks about how we should, the three angels' messages in Revelation, talking about how we should remember God as the Creator.

1:00:40 The Sabbath brings us back to God. Huh. Funny how that all ties together, especially when spiritualism appears and people are actually focused on giving their attention to spiritualism when God says, okay, okay, okay. Fear God and give glory to him because he's coming soon. And God is truly coming soon, folks. I truly believe it. That is the goal of this program is to really show that, that this is actually happening here. Speaking of Kirk, he's a smart guy and he's, this is how smart he was about this stuff. He could remember things. I think he had a photographic memory. I can't prove that because I haven't been able to find that. But I spent weeks and weeks and weeks going over all these reels and one of them really caught my attention is that he was able to remember people. And I have gobs of examples of this, but this is one that really stuck out.

1:01:36 Listen to this funny guy and his question. Watch this. You get a pizza from Domino's, half pepperoni and half cheese pizza. It's not a cheese pizza. Cool. How you doing, Mr. Sir? I love you, by the way. I've met you before. No, you haven't met me. It's like a Domino's pizza. Do you want a pizza with good crust? Or do you want a pizza with good crust, good pizza sauce, good cheese? There's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. See, he didn't even have to start talking about pizza. He knew exactly who this guy was before he even started asking his question. And so that tells me a lot. When you meet, I meet so many people, I can barely remember who I talked to last when I'm doing presentations at different places around the world. But this guy could remember someone that he talked to when he talked to hundreds and hundreds of students.

1:02:23 Something was different about Charlie Kirk. That's all I got to say. I'm not, you know, I'm not making this political at all. I think it's very interesting, though, how much knowledge this guy had in his head. And he was canceled from it. Charlie knew this whole thing was coming. This whole, he knew that he was going to be assassinated. I think that. He had plans for it, just in case. With all his knowledge and all his history that he had in his head, he told many people. Many people to prepare for this. Listen to this collage I put together. Watch this. We are the most attacked organization in America. I'm not saying this stuff to have you make me feel bad for me. We're used to the death threats, we're used to the life alterations. In fact, I love it.

1:03:12 Because if you are not currently under attack, I don't think you're doing anything meaningful against the enemy. Senator, I am going to Utah next week, a week from today, at the wonderful Utah Valley State University. All are welcome. Senator Lee, this is already making a lot of headlines. People are very angry. They're calling for my cancellation. They think our permit should be pulled. This is a greater response than when I go to Berkeley. Senator Lee, what is going on in the beautiful state of Utah? Who knows why they decide to start these things. But each time they start them, and then you show up and do what you do best, people were enlightened as a result of it. So thank you for doing that. Well, it's going to be fun. And I think some of these people that are getting very angry. They're going to be very disappointed.

1:03:57 Because I am the same person on this program that I'm there on campus. And if you disagree, you can go to the front of the line and we're going to have a good chat. This is where this is headed. I hope everyone understands. Whether it be Julius Caesar. Yeah, Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., Bobby Kennedy. Assassinations of major political leaders are nothing new. And yet we've kind of been immune to that for a couple of decades. Asking questions. What does the word to murder Alex or murder mean? They already murdered themselves in that action. They already bestowed the punishment upon themselves. We are simply completing the task. And think about it. Some people will say, but Charlie, you know, it's not fair. But you know who it's not fair to? It's not fair to the victims. You are cheapening the lives of the victims.

1:04:49 You are basically saying the victims die and you get to live. The most unfair thing imaginable is eliminating a life from being able to live and flourish. That's the most unfair thing. Murder is the most unfair thing. At all. I mean, definitionally, that's unfair. You eliminate a life from being able to flourish. That's unfair. So we all know what happened. We all know. And I'm not going to go into that because I don't feel it's necessary to show that. I watched the clips probably more times than I need to. And it's terrible. Terrible what happened. But what really bothered me about the whole thing is I can't figure out how he died so fast. Someone medical might be able to answer that. But from what I can tell, and I'm going into something, so follow me on this.

1:05:36 What I can tell is something happened. A bullet went through his neck. And it hit the base or somehow inside where we technically live in our brain. The shockwave. Everything immediately killed him. By the grace of God, I hope I go the same way. That I don't suffer. Because he was gone without even knowing it. Amazing. And sometimes I wonder, you know, when you have those plane accidents or you have those terrible things that happen to people. Is God merciful? And just kind of let them all go to sleep immediately without suffering? Without wondering, you know, loss of blood or drowning? This is kind of dark. I realize that.

1:06:22 But I think this world, God is a God of mercy. And I think just like that, even though it was gory, it was terrible, he didn't feel any of it. And so I am comforted in the fact that even though, you know, this guy, my wife came out to me and she says, I just feel bad today. I said, it was the day after Charlie Kirk died. And I said, you've been watching too much social media, haven't you? Yeah, I think I'm taking a break from social media. She said. It's because it was just all over our feed and we couldn't get out of it. And so I think it's very interesting that he went out so fast. So obviously people can't really grasp. The brain wasn't a design to deal with death. That's not what God intended. And so we come up with all these different ideas about how things work. And because we come up with all these ideas, we have all kinds of different things.

1:07:18 We have all kinds of different theories about different things. And I'm not going to go into those theories because I've been trying to focus on making this channel not about theories, not about conspiracy. All those are interesting and fine, but I want to focus on the legitimate things of Bible prophecy. That's the goal of this channel. So I'm not going to go into the conspiracies and stuff, but I think it's interesting to point out that there are quite a few out there. And this is just a couple of them. Watch this. A man in the white shirt, Okay, so the man in the white shirt Okay, so the man in the white shirt, okay so man in the white shirt that's him this is this guy right here and so he's like look look guys if this was a legitimate thing i'd be in prison right now but this is what he says he was actually part of the whole thing part of the whole uh uh brigade that was helping kirk the white hat was me okay i did this with my hat maybe i touched my nose or something while i'm holding my phone because i'm facetiming my son and daughter-in-law charlie kirk was literally like a son to me i have three sons he was like my fourth son my three sons are a little bit older than charlie he was like my fourth son so when he was hit if your son got hit what would you do what would you do charlie wasn't there his eyes were fixed he wasn't looking at me he was looking past me right into eternity online sleuths are also hung up on the bullets trajectory since clear video of the shooting is still widely available online so i'm going to pause it here this is the second this is another theory there's like must be 30 different theories and i'm not going to go through them all i'm gonna go through two of them i just want to show that they're these things are out there and primarily what happens is this this is why these why there's so many of these things well number one the brain doesn't really comprehend this stuff right now number two we don't trust the media including myself we don't trust the mainstream message so we have to look into this stuff and i think everyone should ask questions absolutely 100 you should ask questions you should be digging into this stuff and finding out what the truth is don't get too deep into it though because you could lose sight of what's really important which is our salvation who cares what happens on this earth we need to focus on christ so what's what's happening here is that because you there's this brain hack that makes people's attention draw quickly to this idea that look there is so much going on and and and maybe it's not the truth well now you have people that pick up on this creators like myself like every everyone candace owens particularly she's she's got me quite annoyed lately but she she's picked this up and she said you know what i'm gonna figure this out she was a good friend of his and maybe it's legitimate but there's also nefarious creators that have picked this up and they go look at this fantastic a way to make subscribers i just have to find the most plausible theory even though i don't have a lot of facts behind me it's half-baked i'll present it to see if it's picked up any but anywhere and i'll get a lot of views and attention is the new currency because the more attention you have the more subscribers you have the more people watching you you have the more potential you could do something politically or or whatever and so that that's that's the that's the danger in this is that it's monetized so you have conspiracy being monetized and it's not conspiracy because people are specifically trying to understand the truth granted there are absolutely i believe all my friends are truly fine learning to try to or trying to find the truth i don't think that there's one person that i know that is like i'm gonna definitely try my best and and uh

1:11:35 and and trick people absolutely not but there are those out there and i think that makes up a significant portion of this uh all these theories that are going out right now because if we would just sit back and look at some of these logically and understand that i got caught up in the idea that i was like how did this guy die so fast maybe it hit his bulletproof vest and popped up into his juggler juggler and went up through his brain then that's how he died so fast well he didn't have a bulletproof vest on as i looked into it a little further and so i was wrong but i'm not going to go out there and spread it on the internet because i want to make sure i understand it correctly which is also why i didn't do this video until just now but i i let's let's dig on further because i think it's very important that we have all these different theories that that happen and maybe that wasn't the shooter well it was the shooter because we can see him jumping down off the roof right here at the same time so i i don't know and and supposedly we have his text messages to his partner saying that um convicting himself too so i know that in in the future there will be good people make sure it's not going to auto next yeah okay good there's going to be good people that are um that are lied to but in in and the judges will see false evidence against them i'm not sure if this is the case i think there's something else that's happening with this narrative let me tell you what that is there's something else happening right now to really agitate politics in this nation number one number one other countries around the world definitely want us to experience a civil war in fact i i know for a fact that once civil war starts then other countries will come in and they will try to make war with us but not until we're distracted by our own people mad at each other so it's really time to press together not to separate due to politics there are politics we need to fight against i think that we'll talk about that in a second but i i i do think that there's some dangerous stuff happening right now and people are starting to feel different about this this whole thing that's happening right now and i think that's something that's happening and due to that there is a revival happening let's talk about that but watch this first charlie kirk's death has given me this uncomfortable feeling that i don't think i've ever experienced before i feel uncomfortable i feel like something else is about to happen and i can't put my finger on it with all the horrible things that have happened in the world i haven't felt this way before this feels like a pivotal moment in history where something big has to change because the world just can't go on like this anymore something feels different i feel different i don't feel right so many of us christians are weeping for a man that we've never even met and we can't explain it because i personally have never reacted this way to losing somebody i've never met and i think it's because our souls know him as a brother what well just finished up a record weekend we had about 1500 more people than seats we had people walking i don't know half a mile to get to church my voice is shot and i believe that god softened all of our hearts for this moment so that we could feel the shift so that we could do something about it we had five services we were at some services three rows deep standing room only we really need a new building my phone has been blowing up pastors are seeing people flock to church there was as many people walking in the opposite direction away from the stadium as there were in the stadium by people and an entire young generation that admired and respected charlie kirk coming to church seeking answers to the question of what is happening and what is god doing and what is satan doing again there were people that came from everywhere across the country had driven for hours and hours and hours and were there at the same time they were four o'clock in the morning and still couldn't get in i think it was turning point said that they can verify that over a hundred million people tuned in this is as far as i know the biggest gospel presentation in the history of planet earth 100 beautiful and so i had a prophetic vision i hope is true during worship i saw charlie ascend into the sky like a magnet and i saw a bunch of pieces of metal gathering and being collected up under that magnet and i pray that that is a generation that experiences revival and is brought together by the death and martyrdom

1:16:34 of our brother and my friend charlie kirk and that this becomes a move of god that is like the jesus movement of the 60s another stadium of i think 20 000 people right around the corner so there were two stadiums that were going on but there had to be at least a hundred thousand people that did not get into either one of those things wow you look into the camera and tell every pastor who is doubting this revival that's taking place just charge them with a little bit of encouragement well i'll just say to you pastor charlie kirk was the most misunderstood missionary in christendom he you think he was political he used politics as an on-ramp to christianity and there were a hundred million in streams yesterday this thing was viewed all over the world i think it is the greatest revival moment of my lifetime largest awakening 18 to 30 year olds in the history of the country wake up pastor don't be old wineskins this is what's happening that was from daystar wow and these are all the comments uh kind of you you can kind of see what happens people are are igniting over there they are going to church for the first time they are something big is happening about this stuff that that is it is really rocking people's worlds i mean pastors are saying hey we're having to do many services over this thing and everything's packed this is like 9 11 on steroids steroids everyone's coming to church now and and uh it's because charlie kirk's messages are going everywhere and i know it's filling up my feed but let me think about this for a second and i'm told by my significant other my wife to be very careful about how i say this and so i don't have anything planned but let's see if it comes out right a revival needs to happen in a specific way it needs to be by your decision to understand god better it needs to be by reading the bible understanding its principles and applying them to your life true revival is what this world needs but what is true revival is going out and saying god you will be my creator you will be my god i will do your principles please help me which is what the israelites forgot to say they said that all that you say we will do just don't talk to us anymore talk to through moses he should have said yeah we'll do everything you say but please help us do it be our god that would have been the everlasting covenant and we would have been home a long time ago this is going to take way longer because if we don't get the fu egg and the cold you made us change into one in a complete new person it will be with this new mother who can fill something in the who check the blue sky that's painful it will make them suffer and it will have to fill this world to the brim okay i ain't gonna secure your A Ñ but it's going to for you you it's really really important you get a place because you have been there and it's not going to stop you before god because he's going to keep you there and all you have to do is to obey him and he's going to fill your soul this is the ultimate goal because you have got to get a place in your life because you're the man who has got it right this is the only design that's the only solution that you have that's the one that i know howrhrd is talking about Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Feelings fade, emotionalism fades, but true revival comes from reading the word and saying, I'm going to change my life because of it.

1:20:06 Not, I'm going to change my life because of Charlie. So for some, this might be a true revival. But for others, this might be a false revival that people fall away from. For some, this might be a revival that gets them into politics instead of Christendom. For some, they might end up following Christian nationalism instead of the Bible. Now, some might say, oh, they're one and the same, aren't they? No, not at all. They're not. Tribalism, which is what this democratic and republicanism is, can really mess people up. I gave one example at the very beginning where you get so hung up on the truth that you forget to love one another.

1:21:03 And so when you have both love and truth, that's when you become that true Christian. The only way to know that is by reading the Bible and spending time with Christ every day. So I want to dig into this real quick because I think that although we see false healings as well, we might be also seeing, fast-spreading corruption, right? From all the shootings. We saw that in the very beginning. Matthew 24, 37 says, Now, what happened in the days of Noah? Let's go back to the Old Testament. It says in Genesis 6, 5, describes Noah's time as a period of overwhelming, overwhelming corruption, right? So it says, God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

1:22:09 So what do we expect in the last days? Continual evil. Continual in the land. And that's what we're seeing right now. So this revival might be coming out of this evil. What I think is very fascinating, if you read the book I'm reading, called The Great Controversy. It's kind of a Bible commentary on this. I believe it's inspired. It says in page 587, they will claim that the fast-spreading corruption is largely attributed to the desecration of the so-called Christian Sabbath. And they will enforce it. So what causes the last events of Revelation 13, which is the enforcement of a worship-based society of God? Well, it's this fast-spreading corruption. Do we see, do we see a fast-spreading corruption happening? Absolutely. Do we see false healings? Absolutely. Do we see that Satan loves counterfeits? Absolutely. Well, let's dig further into that because we also got false revivals in the Bible as well.

1:23:14 The counterfeit. For Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. He imitates God's method to confuse. Matthew 13, 24 through 30, in that era, it says in that parable of the wheat and the tares, the enemy sows counterfeit. So he loves to counterfeit things, right? Put in a little bit of weeds into the wheat. Or Exodus 7, 8, Pharaoh's magicians counterfeit Moses' miracles. So does he want to do a revival? Because he knows God's going to have a revival as well. Well, great controversy. I'm going to refer to that book again because I think that's a fascinating book. It says, Before the final visitation of God's judgments upon earth, there will be among the people of the Lord such a revival of primitive godliness as has been witnessed since the apostolic times.

1:24:04 In other words, when the disciples were around. But the enemy of souls desires to hinder this work and before the time of such movement shall come, he will endeavor to prevent it by introducing a counterfeit. Boy, just like the Bible says, he's going to introduce a counterfeit. Are we seeing the beginning? The beginning? The beginning? The false revival? I don't know. I don't want to go too far in and assume that's the case because I truly believe that we got to see also a true revival of God's people as well. But lots of people are going to be very confused on what is truth and you can't base it on emotion. That's my thing. I really want to drive home. Satan can confuse that. He can do that. So digging further, let's understand this. Now that I've hit that pretty hard, go back up to my outline.

1:25:01 That's the revival that's happened. We also have this politics that have kind of entered the church and it really made me pause for a second because these politics made me wonder, how is the church doing? Should we have these politics in the church? Let's dig into that real quick and we'll look at what the Bible says. I will be honest though, in 2012, 13, 14, 15, 16, I felt a lot more passive about talking about my faith because I was kind of told not to, both by pastors and politicians. If you think about it, pastors are like, don't you dare bring that in here. Don't bring it in the church. I grew up in a church environment that you do not talk about politics. You do not talk about philosophy. You just talk about the Bible. We just do the gospel. That's it. Which of course is, I believe, unbiblical. Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Esther, Mordecai, Daniel, amongst many others, were all political figures.

1:25:51 Okay, so he has some really good examples here, but I think you're going to be surprised at where I'm going with this. So keep that in mind. Keep hanging in there. Fasted and prayed for the nation. Even Deborah. Yeah, exactly. The counselors to the king. So there's many examples of that. But then also politicians like, oh, no, no, keep that Christian stuff away. We just care about tax cuts and all this other nonsense. But look, I don't blame people for saying that I'm a political guy. That is my day job. Right? And so I'm focused on the second most important thing that I think a human being can focus on. So then, of course, everyone says, what's the first thing? Okay, well, the first thing is winning souls for Jesus Christ. Most important. Well, then, Charlie, what's the second thing? Let's make sure you can do the first thing. We should love on the cowardly church. We should try to bring the cowardly pastors into the courageous category. We should challenge them and say, you could do better than this. You know, I love it when pastors say, well, you know, we don't take stances around this sort of stuff at our church.

1:26:45 And I wonder, I say, well, what exactly do you take a stance on? And they say, well, we're not a political church. Well, are you a moral church? Well, they say, well, we're not here to be controversial. Hey, the gospel's rather controversial. The gospel says that we are so flawed that you need to give yourself to Jesus Christ and only through him you get to eternity. If that's not controversial, then what exactly is controversial? You see, Jesus says, I am the only way, not a way. Jesus didn't say there's a buffet option of ways you could do the Taoist way. No, he said, I am the way. That might offend somebody. I am afraid that too many talented pastors right now are afraid of offending somebody when in reality we are a nation starving for truth. Now, why are they so afraid?

1:27:37 Seems like pretty good arguments, doesn't it? And keep going with me because I think you're going to be surprised where I'm going to go with this. But listen to what he says and then we'll talk about it. Because too much of American Christianity is invested in buildings and budgets and trying to expand their reach when in reality you look at what Flashpoint is doing. The rest of the world doesn't approve of this. Good, that's how you know you're doing your job. That's the seal of approval. I always laugh when pastors say, you know, yeah, we're not really under attack here. That's because Satan doesn't think he should waste his time on you. Satan is not omniscient. He has to allocate, the enemy has to allocate his time. As Jesus said, he is the prince of this world to the churches that are really making a difference. But you know what's amazing is the Lord is blessing the courageous churches and ministries right now. You see, if you are a cowardly church, for example, here's how you know if you have a cowardly pastor.

1:28:32 They didn't say a word after Roe versus Wade was overturned. I'm sure you all know a pastor like that. They should resign from the ministry or find some courage because we just overturned one of the worst demonic decisions in the history of our country. All right, hold on. There's just a second. I know a lot of you, I'm going to lose like half of you on this. But listen to what I'm saying real quick because this is very important. A lot of what is playing out right now is this idea that Christianity is tied to only one place. One position. And while I do agree that one position probably has a lot of Christianity in it, I also agree that we need to have more love. And sometimes it's hard to decipher where some of that comes in. And so that's where grace comes in. I've always said that the political parties are two tribes. One tribe is primarily focused on let's give grace and let's give things to other people. The other party is based on let's give the truth and let's give an understanding.

1:29:27 It's the same thing in God's time. And in Bible time, it was the Pharisees and the Sadducees and one believed in no resurrection and the other believed in, well, you know, the Sadducees, they didn't believe in the resurrection. The Pharisees, they were like always arguing over the truth. What is the truth? And we have to know the truth. It's kind of like that in politics today. But really, keep listening. Let's see what they have to say about this and I'll come back and show you what the Bible says. Love on the cowardly pastors. Bring them in. Say, hey, we'll take the arrows for you. You've got to speak clearly. And then sometimes they say, well, it's not very, it's not clear to me how the Bible speaks to today's time. I'm like, wow, have you read Romans 1? Like, hello. How about this? God created man and God created woman.

1:30:30 How about you give a sermon on that? While our young people are being preyed on by government school predators and groomers, the clarity of the church is missing. Why do you think pastors shrink from that? My answer's always been noses and nickels. I mean, it's like because they're afraid of losing numbers, they're counting noses and they're counting dollars. And I guess the third would be the 501c3 status, the tax exempt status, which the IRS came after us last year. Congratulations. I cannot put a tax exempt status above the truth. And the day that happens, that's idolatry. What's happening right now is not the church is not getting more. Political politics are getting more theological and politics are getting more spiritual.

1:31:18 When the government moved past things like building roads, issuing driver's licenses and teaching math to things like redefining marriage, erasing gender, reframing abortion as reproductive rights, and then using the government school system to indoctrinate everybody's kids into believing those things. Hey guys, the church didn't move. Politics did. You cannot read the Bible about Moses, Daniel, Esther, Nathan, Nehemiah, John the Baptist and think that the church didn't move. That the church and pastors should avoid addressing government and governmental leaders. You just can't do it. If the church won't disciple people, the world will. So what's gonna happen, check this out, is if godly leaders and godly pastors and godly voices all go silent or refuse to be clear on issues related to politics and government, then the only voices that are left are the godless ones.

1:32:13 Politics can't save anybody from hell, but the book of James says that our everyday decisions either pull heaven down into our lives or pull hell up into our lives. So politics can't save anybody from hell, but they can save us from pulling hell up into our cities, states and nations. All right, that one right there, when I was watching this, made me pause. I'll have to admit. But we're gonna dig into this further in just a second. Listen to what else Kirk says and then we'll do this. But let's get to the inexcusable facts that every pastor in America should be speaking about. If I ask you a hypothetical, would a pastor be in error if he did not speak against slavery in this country? Say of course. Would a pastor be in error if a pastor not speak about how kids are being sold into sex slavery? Well newsflash, there are more people being sold in slavery in this country right now on the southern border than any time in the last couple hundred years and the church is silent.

1:33:05 Pastors are too interested in bigger buildings and more budgets and not in the fact that kids, God's children are being sold as sex slaves in our own country. This is not happening in Afghanistan. This is not happening in some far off distant land. This is on our turf. This is in our own nation. And I can't make the moral argument more clear than that. If there's just one issue, just vote to end modern day slavery. That's it. But I just get at this is that many of these pastors either don't know this or they don't know the stakes of this. I know we're over time or whatever. But it's very, I cannot drive this point home enough, which is that don't judge the world for their failure if the church is silent. We will be hold to a higher account. It will go down. This will go down to a similar, but not the same.

1:33:54 It's in the ballpark of the church's failing during Nazi Germany. We will be judged for this. Boy, oh boy, oh boy. That's a lot to talk about, huh? So what do you see happening here? Because what I see happening here is, is the pendulum swinging in real time. Before it was swinging slowly, we could see it slowly happening just another administration ago. But we are in full tail swing right now. I mean, it is happening real fast. We are at the, I'd say even at the bottom. I forget if there's actually a word for that when the pendulum actually hits the bottom and starts to creep up the other side. We are experiencing this right now where people have had enough of issues and one side is gonna start hitting really hard.

1:34:43 Christian nationalism is what is happening right now. And if you think that word is not a big deal and maybe you think that we should be more nationalistic in our ideas, I beg to differ. Because America was founded on the principles of being away from having this connection from the church and the state together. Because you had a lot, a lot of oppression when the church had combined with the state. Primarily the Catholic Church, which still believes today that they should be in charge with real teeth. And that's gonna happen again. And we're swinging real hard towards that place. And my prediction is, and this is based on Bible prophecy, when you go full tail into that, past the point of no return up into that part where you say, yeah, I don't think it's necessary that the church should be separated from the state.

1:35:39 We should be able to have the church come in. Have the church come in and decide what the rule is. That's when it gets really scary, folks. And that's where we're heading. So let's look at what the Bible says about this. John 18, 36 says that my kingdom, Jesus says, is not of this world. It says, if my kingdom were of this world, then my servants would fight. But now is my kingdom not from hence. Now, did Jesus have a truth that he believed in truth? Yeah. He says, follow the commandments. He didn't tell just the Jews this. He told everybody this. Commandment, the Sabbath is made for man, not the Jews. And so was he, did he care about morality? Should we talk about morality in the church? Absolutely, folks, we should. But Jesus didn't try to change the state.

1:36:32 He didn't go to Rome and say, we need to change how you guys are doing things. He chose a different way. In fact, he says in, in fact, it says in 2 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, excuse me, 2 Timothy 2, 3 through 4, no man that entangleth himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. In other words, you can't, you can't entangle yourself with this life. You have to focus on what is going on in the next life. Yeah, you can state this is the correct way to do things. And if you are in power with the state, you can push in your ideals because you are not of this world. In fact, that's, that's what it says in 1 Samuel 8, 4 through 7 says, when Israel demanded a king, God told Samuel, they have not reject, they have not rejected thee, they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. Remember that story about Israel? They, they wanted so badly that they didn't want Christ to reign over them. They wanted a king. They wanted Saul. They wanted someone to come in there and actually be their king for them. They wanted to separate this idea of religion and, oh, oh, oh, from the true God.

1:37:46 And so they pushed for the idea that they were going to have this political idea over here. That doesn't mean that, I think you should join church and state again, but that was with true God. And so politics shouldn't seek a human government. If you are, I mean, excuse me. If you're a Christian, you shouldn't seek a human government. Understand that you are not from this world and you should be, uh, you should absolutely believe in the truth. Don't kill, don't, you know, all this other stuff that does kind of fit into some politics, but don't push it on people because you could be very wrong in how you, you present it. If it's not presented the correct way with love, Satan has devised teams. This is how he's always worked with the competition between two. And then he says, fight, fight amongst, choose quickly, and then fight between these two tribes. And if you don't, then you will, uh, suffer.

1:38:45 But God always has a third option. One that we can't always see. And so that's, that's important. Politics, bury it. And gospel workers page 392, it says the Lord would have his people bury political questions on the themes. Silence is eloquent. In other words, if you see something that, that is political, but it primarily is not necessarily a good, uh, um, uh, use of your time as a Christian. Don't argue about it. You could be, uh, get your emotions inflamed, or you could have something else, inflame your emotions that causes you to misstep on how you present things. Another thing, uh, probably you should say, the desire of ages, which is an amazing book about Christ.

1:39:33 I think everyone should read the desire of ages. It's called as a quote from there. It says the savior's words render therefore unto Caesar, the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's, were a severe rebuke to the intriguing Jews and to the hypocritical Pharisees. Christ plainly showed that his kingdom is not of this world. It's very different, very, very different, this world compared to heaven. And we should be people that are planning to go to heaven. Does that mean that in Bible times that some of these people that truly wanted to manage the government on earth were doing wrong? No, absolutely not. That's a different time. We are in a different area today. We're going home very soon, and I think Bible prophecy, just this program, shows you how close we are to the end. I mean, we are on just the cusp of something very, very big that's happening right now that everyone should be aware of. I lost my notes here. Let's see what's next. So that's a good thing. That's essentially what's going on. I have this little collage I want to show about Charlie. One thing that I think that was very, very, touched me greatly is watching this. And we'll kind of just, we'll talk about this afterwards, but I also have a little commercial I'm going to present to you as well after this. Watch this.

1:41:05 See, Charlie, this is why I can't believe in God. How could you believe in God after this? I do believe. That we have free will. And that individual woke up with the free will and used that free will to murder. That's evil. And we know it's evil because we are appealing towards a transcendent truth standard. You only know something is evil if you have good to compare it to. You only know something is right because you have a standard of right. But if you don't believe in God, then you say evil is no problem. But if you are upset with it, you actually are implying that you believe in God. You might be angry at God. You might be wrestling with God. You might be mad at God. You might think that God is unjust. That's a completely different thing than not believing in God. And remember, Christianity is the answer to the problem of evil. Evil exists, but it's not outside of God's control. He can overrule and redeem it at times. He allows it to happen. The question is, why does evil exist? Instead, it should be, what has God done about it? And the cross is the answer to that. Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish, because they received not the love of the truth that they had received, but the love of the truth that they had received.

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1:46:31 Along the way, Bradley has also stepped into unexpected arenas, even attending meetings with former Pentagon official Lou Elizondo in March to question his claims and to expose the deeper spiritual agenda behind these stories. No one else is lifting this warning in quite this way. Through it all, strange normal has remained laser focused on unmasking the spiritual delusions of our age and to point men and women back to Jesus, the solid rock of truth. Friend, none of this could have happened without you. Your prayers, your encouragement, and your gifts have carried this ministry across states, nations, and platforms. Together we are preparing souls to stand when an overwhelming surprise of false spiritualism breaks upon the world. But the work is far from finished.

1:47:21 As this year comes to a close and the doors open in 2026 and beyond, we need your partnership more than ever. Will you stand with us? Will you help keep this message going in every place God calls us? If that's your mission too, go to strangenormal.org slash share truth and be a part of this prophetic mission. Together we can lift up Christ and expose the enemy's last deception. Thank you and God bless you. All right, we're not complete yet. We're almost done though. I want to show you something I didn't have in my notes and I didn't really have a place to put it. And so I thought it would be interesting, even though that I really pushed back on the idea that there are conspiracies among this and I truly think it was just some dumb kid.

1:48:18 The only other way it could be is that they convinced this guy that he needs to do this or else something bad is going to happen. But that'll all come out. I hope if that's the truth. But really, it's a spiritual deception. That's what I believe. It's a spiritual deception. They rocked this guy's emotions so much, the demonic entities, that he decided to do this atrocity. And for the purpose of pushing this pendulum far to one side. But there is one curious thing that really bothers me about this whole thing. Did you know that both Kirk and his wife, Eric, didn't see eye to eye on religion? In fact, they were, at the very foundation, very different in their understanding of religion. Yeah.

1:49:06 I should have told you guys about this before, but I didn't cut these videos up. So we're going to have to do this in real time a little bit because I've thought, you know, this would actually be very interesting to at least talk about or at least have some comments about. So I'm going to scrub through this real quick. This has probably got all his commercials in it and everything. Just hold on. Let's see if we can do this. Let's see. If your portfolio is over $250,000 and you aren't hedged, you are... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So David is our first member. David, thank you for being a member. Members.charliekirk.com. Thank you so much. What's on your mind, sir? Well, hello, Charlie. Good to talk to you. I watched your video with Michael Knowles debating Catholic versus Protestant. Your argument was the best argument I've heard on this subject. I'm a Protestant like you and I've been listening to the Michael Knowles show for years and he is a great guy.

1:49:56 But sometimes Michael Knowles is so Catholic, he could have been the new Pope. I'm glad you laughed at that. I know, Charlie, a lot of Catholics are real Christians, including Michael Knowles. Amen. But we are the people of the Bible and Catholic theology can be like Swiss cheese, lots of holes. Their obsession with Mary is completely unbiblical. I used to go to the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California once in a while and then they were sold to the Catholic Church. And in the prayer room I used to use, they now have a... It's called the Crystal Sculpture of Mother Mary at the center of the prayer room where you can kneel and pray to Mary. Plus a 20-foot tall statue of Mary in the courtyard titled Mary, Queen of Heaven. I don't know exactly where this Mariology comes from, but obviously Jesus didn't believe in it. All throughout the Gospels, he never mentions it. If anything, he taught against it. I was wondering, could it be, since you and Michael Knowles both have a big following, that you could do a one-hour debate about Catholic versus Protestant?

1:50:52 What do you think, Charlie? I love it. First of all, thank you. Thank you for being a member. You've actually hit on one of my major, major concerns of Catholicism. And I mean, look, I love Catholics. You know, as people know, I'm very close to even my local Catholic priest, Father Klein, great guy. My wife was baptized Catholic, but... Okay, did you hear that? His wife was baptized Catholic. That's interesting to me. He's very Protestant. But I have some big disagreements with Catholicism, and the first of which would be Mariology. All right, so before we get into this, for those of you that don't know, Protestantism is a group that came out of the Catholic church to protest, that's the name of it, Protestant, protest against the Catholic church. So they're two absolute opposing ideas. Protestants primarily left Europe even to come to America. So America, a lot of people that established the establishment of America were protesting the Catholic church.

1:51:50 We didn't like the Catholic church. I'm a Protestant. I believe my church is one of the only churches left that are truly Protestant, because a lot of churches have kind of wanted to join the Catholic church again. But I digress on that. Let's hear what Charlie has to say about it. But let me first say, I think we as Protestants and evangelicals under-venerate Mary. What? She was very important. She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior. I think that we as evangelicals and Protestants, we've overcorrected. We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough. Mary was clearly important to early Christians. There's something there. In fact, I believe one of the ways that we fix toxic feminism in America is Mary is the solution. Have more young ladies be pious, be reverent, to be full of faith, slow to anger, slow to words at times.

1:52:47 Mary is a phenomenal example and, I think, a counter to so much of the toxicity of feminism in the modern era. However, I would say Catholicism goes way too far. Catholicism believes two things as dogma. And most Catholics, if you ask them this, some don't even know. Number one, do you believe that Mary was sinless? The Catholic Church does. There is no biblical basis for this, the only of which would be that Mary was full of grace in the Annunciation. The Annunciation of Mary in Luke 1, that is a big stretch. By the way, that was not even added into official Catholic dogma until the mid-1800s. The second of which, which is called the Immaculate Conception, there's a second form of Catholic dogma that believes that Mary was assumed into heaven, that her physical body was actually the assumption of Mary, was assumed into heaven.

1:53:39 Again, that is a pure faith claim. It is not biblically supported at all whatsoever. So I think that we as evangelicals can do a better job of, remembering, studying, talking about, and pointing towards Mary, because she was a vessel chosen by God Almighty that brought our Lord into this world. But I find, in fact, I find biblical evidence to the opposite. I find biblical evidence to show that Mary was sinful like all the rest of us. In fact, I see biblical evidence that, it says very clear, I think, in the Book of Romans, that no one is sinless except Christ Jesus. Amen. The other one is more of a technical theological debate, which, again, Catholics have a very firm belief on this, that Mary was not the mother of Jesus' half-brothers. It's just not supported by Scripture. However, you could say that it was Joseph's other kids from another marriage.

1:54:30 Again, that is just a faith claim. That would be, of course, James and Jude, the two half-brothers of Jesus. This is not a major issue for me between me getting along with Catholics, me loving Catholics, me thinking that Catholics are doing a great job for the planet and for the world. But I personally would not be able to, to enter into a faith that believes that anybody except Jesus Christ our Lord was without sin. And that's my final comment on Mariology. Happy to debate it with others if that ever surfaces. So, again, we're also here on The Charlie Kirk Show. We're very ecumenical. I just want to say again, Catholics are just fabulous. Well, I do believe that Catholic people are fabulous too, and I'm not into ecumenicism, because I don't want to combine my faith with another faith that causes me to have to make decisions, because I don't want to combine my faith with another faith that causes me to have to make decisions, with that group, because I believe we're coming upon a time where it's very difficult. But this guy, even, even though I probably would have worded things a little bit different, at least he maintained his, his belief that Catholic Church is crazy. At least, not the people, but the, the faith in general has kind of lost its mind.

1:55:40 Kind of like Candace Owens, but I digress. This is the next clip I have. This is in, oh, by the way, Candace Owens has become Catholic too. That's why I made that comment. Okay, so this is him on a show with the most Catholic man I've ever met, or met, excuse me, that I, I'm in the same state with, I guess I could say. I haven't met him. I'm sure he, he's a very nice guy, but listen to what he says here. Okay, question over here. So my, my question to you, because you're such an inspiration to Catholicism, Mr. Knowles, what advice would you give to somebody who's trying to spread the love of the Eucharist to the world? Okay, well, you know, that's wonderful that you're going to do that. I think it's great. Most, did you see, did you see his face? Not, not Michael Knowles, Kirk's face when he said that. He grimaced. Because you're such an inspiration to Catholicism, Mr. Knowles, what advice would you give to somebody who's trying to spread the love of the Eucharist to the world?

1:56:38 Okay, well, you know, that's wonderful that you're going to do that. I think it's great. Most of the time people say, Michael, I want to start a podcast. What's your advice? And my advice is don't, because too many people have them, and I think every white man on the stage under the age of 75 has one now, and it's by law or something. But this is the first time in memory that someone has proposed some new content project where I've thought, great, you should do that. That's really good. And my advice is you should recite the St. Thomas Aquinas prayer that he would have before study or writing or speaking for God to illumine his darkened mind. And then what you should do is, you know, pray a little bit more. Praying is the first resort, not the last resort. And then, this is something, Charlie, that, you know, we mackerel snappers, we get. We don't need to, you know, reinvent the wheel every year. We got 2,000 years of people who are much smarter than you and I who have thought this out, who have debated these questions.

1:57:32 So if you just bring that, if you convey that, you know, this is, I'm trying to sell Charlie on this right now. I know I'm answering you, but I'm really speaking to Charlie. If you just do that, that's all you're doing. You're just telling the story. You're telling the greatest story ever. You're telling the greatest story ever told. And you have the deposit of faith and you have the magisterium behind you as a hermeneutic of interpretation. But just do that, you know, and do that in sincerity and do that with the best of your effort. And I think it'll be wonderful. As an evangelical who loves Catholics, I love that you're doing it. But let me just, let me just edit what you say. Here's the but. Here's the but, hold on. It's a big one. You didn't catch it, Michael, is that your goal should be to bring people to Jesus, not Catholicism. So hold on. What's the difference? What's the, I don't think. What's the. Hold on. Hold on.

1:58:22 I'm not saying that they're contradictory, but your goal should not be to bring people to a specific sect of Christianity. It is to bring people to the cross. You're saying to bring people to the fullness of the truth and the universe, but not not the maxims of every Catholic dogma. No, I mean, for example, am I a Christian if I don't believe in Maryology? Well, we're talking about the. Fullness of the truth. You know, we're talking about, but you, but there's, but you still, you still. Am I a Christian if I don't believe in transubstantiation? You are a little confused if you don't, but you, but you can, but you can have sincere, but you can have sincere faith. No, it's fine. I just, I think that bringing people to Catholicism is fine. Of course. Great. Terrific. But that is hopefully a means to the ultimate end. You exist to bring to people to. Yes. No, of course. Of course. And no, and that, that is the goal. I'm just maybe being.

1:59:17 Semantically, you know. But think about this, this question. If what happens when you want to bring people to, to our Lord and what happens when there are disagreements over important things? I mean, not. We'll schism and say, you guys got it wrong. Or we do a reformation. But you know, so we're, we're at, uh, we're at Christmas right now. We're at Christmas time. We're talking about, uh, St. Nicholas, you know, Santa Claus Jesus. And well, no, but I'm talking about Santa Claus. There's before we talk. We're talking about our Lord, the, but, but you know, there's this story. Characters is Jesus. This focus on the main thing. But there's this, this story about St. Nicholas who the, the legend, I don't think it's literally true, but the legend goes that St. Nicholas who Santa Claus is based on shows up to the council of Nicaea and he smacks the heresiarch areas who denied the divinity of Christ smacks him in the face.

2:00:09 And this has led to a meme that I really like at Christmas, which is an icon of St. Nicholas. And it says, I've come here to give presents to children. And to punch heretics in the face and I'm all out of presence. And, and so I don't know, I don't think it really happened and it would have been a corrective slap and all the rest, but, but the serious question is what, what happens when someone has a question on something really important, like is Christ God, you know, the divinity of Christ, there has to be an interpretive hermeneutic to figure it out. Of course. Yeah. And look, to be very clear, like nine out of 10 of Catholic dogmas, evangelicals hold nine out of 10. Right. Yeah. And that, that is why I believe Catholics are Christians. Yeah. Even though you don't give me that same. No, I, I would, I would, I'm giving you a hard time. And I, I mean that it's, it, it, again, if you are a Catholic who loves Jesus, therefore, and I know that it just, I believe that there are personally some fundamental issues with, like I say, Mariology, trans trans transubstantiation, which we're not going to get into, but the biggest one is the papacy.

2:01:08 I can't get over the idea of this Marxist who calls himself the head of your church, being a representation of Christ our Lord. I just, and I, I mean that as someone who loves the Catholic impact on the world that says it openly and by the fruit, you will know it. And you have very Marxist fruit, but what I guess my, my, my sort of last question on is evangelism or evangelization, but both, okay. What, uh, what happens when we get the next Pope, can we pull you over them? You know, what if we get like, well, I will say, I mean, John Paul, the second was a, it was a Catholic christian станов Oh, that's amazing. I just think that there is, there is a question to be asked of why is that specific process, that mechanism given more merit than let's just say, the local church and or the word of God, and you would say, okay, interpretation, you know, it's the, the, with, with the final resolution to that, that's fine.

2:02:10 I just, that I would, I asked the question if you are all in on, you know, the papacy and the Vatican. No practicing Catholic can look and say, this is the best that my religion has to offer. Charlie, you're thinking too much about it. You've got to have the Italian spirit. Now, the Italian spirit is when, you know, someone asks, hey, in this newspaper, the Pope said something. Well, you say, oh, well, maybe the Papa was misinterpreted. You know, it's no big deal. Forget about it. You're too Anglo to understand that. Too Anglo attitude. So I have to just hope, you know, oh, no, he doesn't mean that, you know, homosexuality is bad. You know, okay, we should just. No, he said God can't bless sin. I know, sometimes it's confusing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to give you that one. He's been way more open on that topic. Or the climate change thing. Climate change. And all this sort of stuff. You just have to kind of hope that he's saying that we want him to say it.

2:03:04 You just kind of, it's like my grandmother sometimes. When she, one of her grandchildren says something that she doesn't like. And she kind of turns down the hearing aid a little bit. And so sometimes, you know, if you turn down the hearing aid on certain issues. And I mean this like non-sarcastically. But like why should I care at all what that guy from Argentina has to say? Well, because you care what your pastor has to say. Yes, but if my pastor starts saying crazy things, I find a new pastor. So if your pope starts saying crazy things, maybe he's not the pope. And like maybe that's a bad representation. Well, I guess. If your pastor says crazy things, you go to a new pastor. And then you have division in the church. It used to be, in the old days, it used to be. If the pastors disagreed, they'd go to an elder or a bishop or someone. Unless the bishop is corrupted.

2:03:55 Then you're taken up higher. And then maybe the pope is corrupted. And we write 95 points of complaint. Hammer him to a door and get back to the word. Well, the issue is that one of the marks of the church is unity. So you can't have constant. You know, schism. And so I'm not disagreeing about difficulties in the prelature at all. But there's a line from Hilaire Belloc. And he says, he has to take it on faith that the Catholic Church is really what it says it is. But for those who don't believe that, one mark of its divine institution is that no other institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight. And I think there's actually a lot of truth to that. That, you know, when one points to the corruption of individuals or bad popes or whatever, but plenty of them.

2:04:43 That actually that's kind of an evidence of the, because so many other ecclesial communities, you know, they appear and then, you know, you leave this pastor. Yeah, I just, I think that's fine, I guess. I mean, I think that if you have the Bible as any sort of semblance of a bedrock, you're going to, you're going to last. But who, who canonizes the Bible? Well, who canonized it when we, what was. Like, where do we get it from? Our Lord didn't leave us a Bible. He left us a church. Well, church that. That's sort of true. I mean. I think our Lord, as part of Godship, God is the author of all 66 books, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. And we, we had. Wait, oh, you slipped that in. Hey, come on. You can't do that to me all the time. No, this is interesting though. Why, why is it that Catholics acknowledge divine books that Jews themselves don't think are divine? The keepers of the Torah don't even agree with your canon.

2:05:34 It's a, well, it's, it's. Like the wisdom of Ben Sera, first and second Maccabees, according to rabbinical teaching, those are not divinely inspired books. Yet Catholics say we like them. Who knows why? Yeah, well, so for, there are a few reasons. One, that the Douay Rheims is, which is the Catholic Bible, is based on the Septuagint. The Masoretic texts, which come later, are the ones that the Protestant Bible and the more recent Catholic Bibles are based on. And there's, there is some discrepancy, at least in numbering of certain things. But also, I mean, you say, well, if rabbinical Jews think one thing, why don't you think that? And I'd say, I don't know, because we're, we're a different religion. No, but hold on a second. No, no, no, but no, but we, we're in the inheritors of the Torah as referenced by people that were schooled in that. So, and the Tanakh. So, Protestantism has an identical mirrored image of the Torah and the Tanakh. And, again, in traditional rabbinical teaching, they do not believe those books are divinely inspired.

2:06:25 Anyway, I know the answer, and you're not going to like it, but that's fine. It's because in those books, it allows for a lot of the practices of the Catholic Church and gives justification for a lot of that stuff. However, I don't want to get too deep in this. I actually think the world is a better place because of faithful Catholics. I've spoken out with great criticism of how evangelicals remained quiet here in Arizona. On Prop 139, while the Catholic Diocese was so courageous on the fight for life, while evangelicals were silent. Anyway, he gets into it. If you want to watch the whole thing, that's interesting. I appreciate you guys hanging in there and watching this with me for the first time. Very, very funny stuff. And I truly think that Charlie Kirk, as best as he knew how, he kept the commandments of man. Excuse me. He kept the commandments of God and had the faith of Jesus Christ.

2:07:15 I hope to see him in heaven someday soon. I think it would be fantastic. And I think God gives him a gift of, even though things had to happen this way, probably for prophecy to be fulfilled. He let him go peacefully without any hurt because he was out like a light. He was already dead before anything happened, anything major. But I trust. I truly believe. I hope to see him soon. He would have been a fun friend to be around, that's for sure. And a very smart guy. And again, I'm not saying that politically. I politically have a mother who's Republican and a father who's Democratic. I'm neither one. I'm just here to get home. And I hope you guys are too. And I hope to see all y'all around here in heaven with me someday soon. Okay, let's have a little prayer. Father God, thank you for this day. Thank you for everything you've given us.

2:08:12 Thanks for the ability to go through this stuff and kind of look into what's happened. Seeing how things are really wrapping up here pretty soon. Guide and direct us and help us to stay in your way. And help us to see what's going on. In Jesus' name we pray, amen. Hey, if you want to help us do this all week, you can be a part of our Discord by going to patreon.com slash strangenormal. You should do that because we want to be a part of this with you. And you can join this small private community that we have. That go over this stuff all the time. That we get most of these clips from. You should do that by going to patreon.com slash strangenormal. Patreon.com slash strangenormal. It'll be in the comments below as the top pinned comment. Check it out. My name is Bradley. And this has been Pure Strangeness and Absolute Normalcy. Strange Normal. We'll see you later. You're watching Strange Normal.

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