0:05 So this is a Pentagon. This is a Department of Defense official saying, stop looking at UFOs because they're demonic? Correct. This is a person I respected tremendously. Very, very senior person. He told me, he said, Lou, I want you to stop doing this. I said, okay, sir, I certainly can, but may I ask why? And he says, well, we already know what it is. And I said, okay, sir, so it's ours? And he said, no, that's not what I'm saying. He asked me point blank, have you read your Bible lately? And I wasn't quite sure where he was going with that. I said, well, sir, I think I know what it says. Where are you going with this? And he said, well, then you would know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them.
1:01 And what I've been trying to do is to use the special privilege that I've been given of getting access to a Harvard education and a law school education and with the Jesuits. And all the different people and meeting, you know, Baba Muktananda and getting to meet all the spiritual leaders of our people and our planet is to try to develop a really intelligent, sophisticated, spiritually informed, but rationally developed set of policies for our dealing with extraterrestrial civilizations. The showings of the angels or the showings of God always showed up as orbs of light or things like that. And today. We see this as we see these as we call them UFOs or maybe again, the things that we have peopled our religions with in the form of spirits or gods or what have you are really just these things showing themselves as they appear to be now religions have made conclusions about the data have become set in their ways and that is, frankly, what sets up this potential conflict amongst the religions because they've all come to a conclusion.
2:16 Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. A pillow of fire at night and confuse Russian troops. It has some asking are Ukrainians receiving heavenly help. There is some miracle happened. It looked like some spaceship, like there was like an attack from the spaceship. There was some kind of a light means was starting shooting from the sky and sparks were going well, like spreading everywhere. And then they on the morning they discovered that the whole. The whole machinery was destroyed. Revelation 16 says these unclean spirits, they go and they perform signs and wonders.
3:07 And Jesus warns in the Gospel of Luke, and it's repeated in the book of Acts, chapter 2, that there will be signs in the heavens. And a lot of people are going to be seeing things in the skies in the last days. The Bible says that in prophecy. So we need to know what the truth is, what to believe and what not to believe, because I think that evil spirits are going to use that to manipulate people in the last days. We're now less than 16 minutes away. The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third world country crazies. We now call them nations of concern. And the next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials.
4:12 That would be the final card. And over and over and over, during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card and remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card. We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens. And all of it, he said, is a lie. No, I'm not talking to you about this. What am I going to tell her or him? You know, these little kids, you know, 10, 11 years old. Yeah, that there's a force that exists out there that can control our environment, that can put thoughts in your head, that can lie to you, trick you, deceive you. To say that to a 12-year-old? I mean, we're already saying it to a certain extent. 14 minutes, 30 seconds and counting. If you're an alien and you want to get baptized, the Pope is in favor of it.
5:10 Pope Francis reiterated his view Monday that everyone has the right to be baptized. And apparently that invite extends even to Martians. You know, there were no questions that prepared me for what I was about to get into. You know, people often say, oh, it must have been fun, it must have been exciting. No, it was pretty sobering. You know, I liken this conversation to like having a conversation with a loved one about maybe, you know, cancer. Now, the good news is the diagnosis looks fine. You're going to recover, but it's a serious conversation. This is something that we are challenging people to reevaluate their philosophical, psychological, sociological, and theological belief system. Anytime you ask humanity to do something like that, it usually takes generations.
6:00 You can't just pivot because, you know, for example, let's just take culture, for example, of a country. It's like an aircraft carrier. How long does it take to turn an aircraft carrier? Well, it takes quite a bit of time and a lot of effort and whatnot. Well, this topic is the same way because we're challenging people to reconsider, if you will, reevaluate their understanding of what they've been told about the universe and, more importantly, our place in it. What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a... To be perfectly honest, a demon. Yeah. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years, in Jesus's name, get it away from me and never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. These so-called alien beings are actually manifesting at times as dead relatives during the abduction experience to challenge a person's belief system as Christian theology in the idea that...
7:15 Dead relatives can be talked to or even spoken to or that they're even around to be able to hear what we have to say. No evolutionary or religious belief system shows that this will end well by contacting these things. Evolution says that these things are likely to be superior and so survival of the fittest will destroy us. Religion says that these things are deceptive and dangerous and the evidence, if you want to include all the theory and all this... The stories of these sincere people, it says they've damaged crops, they have mutilated cattle, they've abducted people beyond their will, they've messed with our highest security protocols, they enabled and disabled dangerous warheads, forced pregnancies, forced surgeries, burned victims, killed pilots and lied to people.
8:11 And most experiencers have experienced at least one terrifying alien experience. So to say that these things, they haven't destroyed us yet, so they must be good. So to deny the fact that there might be a universal court saying these earthlings are protected here on earth, and that's what Christianity believes. We've passed the 11 minute mark, now T-minus 10 minutes 54 seconds on our countdown. Both of us separately without communicating, we're studying this and going, wow, there is something going on here since this is out, it's in Congress and they're discussing this right now. This isn't conspiracy. Sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Very eye opening. The Defense Intelligence Agency has just released that program's 2010 report on UFOs. And among other things, the document tells us the government can prove that UFO sightings have caused radiation burns, paralysis, and brain damage.
9:13 The report also says that some people who saw UFOs experienced, quote, perceived time suspension. They also saw ghosts and other spirits. In all, that report lists 42 cases of adverse effects from medical files and another 300 adverse effects from unpublished documents. Mark, T-minus 10 minutes and counting, T-minus 10. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. There is a professor for the Pope's University in Rome, and he is a very highly respected intellectual. His last name is Tanziniti. And he has written a paper now in which he is saying that very soon, non-evolutionary intelligence, he is gonna get close toNO. No, he's gonna get close toNO. soon, not right in the beginning. We won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning, but there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a rereading of the gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican intelligentsia. Hear what I'm saying about the nuclear weapons. The UFOs were turning our weapons on, and just so Russia could pick up that we're firing our missiles and fire theirs first. It was a big chess game. So these guys went into complete secrecy to start coming up with a defense system against this phenomenon. There's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory.
11:09 They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is. There are things flying around up there that we haven't fully identified yet. And keep in mind, there are basically a billion galaxies in an ever-expanding universe. I mean, you can't even get your mind around the sheer number of things that are out there. But you've seen this. You've seen the data. Well, no one knows, but I think that the probability is that there's something you would call life somewhere else. The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles, what I guess in the vernacular you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs.
12:10 You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you, it's real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? My name is Tom DeLong. Most people know me as the founder of the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182. I started a company called To The Stars that eventually became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. We are literally the group that is responsible for why you read about UFOs in the papers today without all the stigma. It's the first time that we had the videos properly declassified. And because of that, then we had information as far as altitude and speed, eyes on target, different radar systems, different sensors that all corroborated what was happening. People start to understand more about the UFO phenomenon, when they follow what Secret Machines is going to teach them. And mind you, as we'll talk about this in a little bit, it's not all coming from me. It's coming from other people of the highest places. The term the occult in that whole world is much more a part of the UFO phenomenon. And that's part of what makes it more complex than just little green men and flying saucers and tinfoil hats. There is a very, very strong link between what people think, what they're seeing, and what we think demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO phenomenon. And what you have is something that doesn't like man period. And something that feels either jealous of or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. Over the next 10 years, I have now worked with over 400 cases.
14:16 of people that have been able to stop the abduction experience in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. This is documented evidence. But what they're saying to us now is it's going to affect Christian belief. Very soon, not right in the beginning, we won't have to deny our Christian faith in the beginning. But there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed, it is going to require a re-reading of the Gospel as we know it. And that's the kind of information that we are receiving from the highest levels of Vatican Intelligentsia. We're now passing the 4 minute 30 second mark in the countdown. Still go at this time. And the priest told us...
15:13 Could I have a bit more of your time? I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says the grain plain. The Master's grain plain. For harvesting the nations, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So we continued, you know, after we expressed ourselves that we're deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This grain plain, he says, is going to take people. People are going to eat the stuff. Because he says spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet. Unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it. All right, hit that like button. Thank you guys so much for being here. It's looking forward to seeing you guys tonight. Go ahead and comment. I want to see where you guys are from.
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18:29 T minus 60 seconds and counting. We passed T minus 60. T is to the universe we were never meant to solve, but who we are and why we are here are not among them. Ignition sequence five, six, five, four, three, two, one. Welcome to Strange Normal. My name is Brad Burnham. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what's going on. And tonight has been quite a night. And I'll explain why. In just a second. But before we do, I want to say, hey, this is May the 4th.
19:55 Does anybody know what May the 4th is? May the 4th is very important because May the 4th be with you. That's right. The guy in the center. May the 4th. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Let's not do that. Let's go back to me instead. All right. Let's bring in our guest tonight. Mr. Matthew, how are you doing tonight? I'm doing well, Brad. And wow, you must be doing a lot better yourself, huh? We almost didn't go live tonight. Well, I was sitting here scratching my head for a long time. We had an audio interface. The thing that controls this microphone, the cord, I sat down and I looked at the cord and thought, why is this thing not on? Well, the cord had bent sideways and it was off and the whole entire thing is not working.
20:43 But God willing, I was able to get it back and back running again. Let me tell you what we have going on tonight. Before we begin the show. Let's get started. Because that's what I was supposed to do. And I completely am completely off my script tonight because of the chaos that ensued. We have we have National Paranormal Day. Do you know that was National Paranormal Day this week? I thought that was interesting. Who makes this stuff up? National Paranormal Day was a couple of days ago. That's what all these states were saying. I kid you not. And I'll prove it here in a second. There's a new balloon being tracked over the US. That's happening right now, too. Brazilian. The return of the balloon. It's more balloon fiascos? I mean, they're having a party over there in China, I guess. I don't know. They're just letting all their balloons go. But it's a little late for their New Year's celebration, right?
21:35 Right. Brazilian officials. Okay, this is a new documentary that's coming out. Brazilian officials have released the officials. What I mean by officials are like government officials. The people that have are the people that have the power. Right. The people that have are running the government agencies. They're coming out and saying, hey, you know, we have we're talking about these extraterrestrials. I'm going to use my finger quotes for those listening that we have seen over here. And they're talking about how they're working with the USA to do it. USAF. They call them USAF because I guess U.S. Air Force. That's what we call them. Interesting. We're going to dig into that and wonder exactly what's going on here. Because I don't think they I think they're being deceived. UAP legislation on material retrieval.
22:26 That's that's happened recently. And Jeremy Corbell speaks about his first UFO appearance of what he saw with a friend of his just recently. We're going to look at that just to kind of see some characteristics about it that happened that we can learn from. Because it's really interesting what he says about it. And and how it indicates it's something totally different. And so we're going to get into that very soon here. Let's do it. You ready, Matthew? I am so ready, Bradley. Let's get into it. All right. Strange normal time. So first thing we got here going on is is let's let's look at this balloon thing. This is fascinating. You ready for this? Here we go. Cut right. Good.
23:14 Three U.S. officials tell NBC News. Another UFO over American soil. Joining me now is NBC News Pentagon correspondent Courtney Kuby. I came to you a little fast, Courtney. I'm being cheeky about UFO. It's another balloon. Tell me what we know. So it appears to be another balloon. I will say the officials that we're speaking to say that they don't believe this is a Chinese balloon, but they don't really know who owns it. It's been flying. It did fly over the last several days over part of Hawaii. Now, it appears to be moving east towards Mexico. We don't exactly know where it is on that transit at this point. Unlike the Chinese spy balloon from a couple of months ago, this balloon does not appear to have maneuverability or propulsion. So in other words, it seems to just sort of be floating along with the wind. That's according to these officials. But it does have a payload. So at this point, it's just not really clear what this is. Now, the officials say it also is not presenting any kind of a threat to aviation, to commercial aviation or planes in the sky.
24:12 And it does not appear to be any kind of a national. It's a security threat. But, Katie, you know, we pointed out to our viewers because there's another balloon, unknown origin, and the U.S. is tracking it to see exactly what it is and where it goes. Is there now a policy in place of what the government will do with it, with these balloons? I mean, is there talk about when you shoot something down and when you don't? I know we asked officials this over and over again during the last melee, and there was never really a clear answer. Has one since been formed? So from a military perspective, there is a very clear checklist that existed. It existed during all of the February time of the balloons that were shot down over several days to now. And it still exists. And if it's an immediate threat, the commander of NORTHCOM NORAD, General Glenn Van Hurk, actually has the authority. If it presents an immediate threat, they know it's armed and it may be something that could do immediate damage.
25:02 He actually has the authority to shoot it down. But there's also a checklist that exists. So if something they look at things like commercial aviation, does it present an immediate threat to those? Is there something about any kind of an unknown flight? Is there any kind of an unknown flying object that it could be a threat to people on the ground? Those are things that they go through. Again, in this case, that does not seem to be a case from a military perspective. But then there's also other layers of government bureaucracy. So if it seems that it is an ultimate threat, so not immediate, obviously it's going to go to the White House. It's going to go to the Secretary of Defense. They're going to discuss the possibilities. The FAA would be brought in. At this point, none of that seems to be the case. The U.S. military is still tracking it to see where it goes. But they're watching it. It's not impossible, by the way here, Katie, if this thing goes over U.S. soil that they would shoot it down.
25:50 That's still in the realm of possible. Just not at this point. Courtney, thank you very much for joining us. So what I find interesting about that, Matthew, are you still there? Yeah, you're not frozen, are you? No, I'm not frozen at all. It's another balloon, and it's over Hawaii right now. I don't know if they mentioned that. Did they mention it was over Hawaii? Because I think in another clip I saw that. But they said if it's coming from over Hawaii, then it's probably coming from China again. And this time it doesn't have the payloads and all the military stuff to survey us anymore. But, you know, balloons is how we used in another war to bomb people.
26:37 And so I'm sure as they're gearing up to look at us as a potential threat, they're testing our boundaries right now. And on a spiritual level, like we've said in previous broadcasts, these old balloons are there to make sure that our radar systems can actually see these UAPs that are happening. So they're more reported by the military. That's what I believe. What do you think? Yeah, I think it's to help keep our eyes in the sky. That's a big part of it. A lot of Christians do have the notion that, OK, Jesus is returning in the clouds. So they just miss out on some of the crucial details about Jesus is returning, like that the world gets destroyed and that at that point the dead are raised and the living who are saved are brought up to meet him in the air.
27:29 All of that kind of gets overlooked. But they know at least that he's coming in the clouds. That's a given, right? So, yeah, the balloons cause people to look up. I think it's just pretty funny the idea that China at this point is just lighting up balloons probably every other week. They're just going to start sending them our way. I mean, they got such a reaction last time. When was this balloon in the news? This is this week. I'd have to look up the exact date of my news clip, but it was this week. Everything I pull, I pull weekly. So it's a lot of work for me. I try not to pull anything that's too old. OK. But all the new stuff is weekly. Oh, and were you going to say something? Go ahead. I cut you off. Oh, I was just going to say I'm wondering.
28:18 So last time people were saying that the balloons, it was a distraction from the pipeline being busted. You remember that? I do. Which that was a big, big deal with the Russia-Ukraine conflict being escalated. The oil going from Russia to Europe was disrupted there. I just know recently, there was a drone that detonated above the Kremlin. Are you aware of this? Yes. A detonator crashed into the Kremlin, right? Detonated crashed something. A drone exploded. Who knows what anything is? But we got to take it at face value. I'm just for this sort of stuff. But yeah, so there was an explosion above the Kremlin. And now that's kind of escalating tensions there.
29:06 I read that a Russian military official was saying that now we have to have Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, dead. Like that's now that's the stakes. Like we got to kill this guy. So I'm just saying if there's more balloon stuff, that's really nonsense. I don't know if because I believe that there will be war on Earth. I think there's going to be a force. Wars and rumors are wars. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. And as I've said on this broadcast, old Pope Francis last June said that as far as he's concerned, World War Three has begun. So that's I don't take him at his word for a lot of things. But that, you know, maybe he's onto something. Because if he's the guy pulling the strings and saying waving the flag, then, yeah, I guess World War Three is upon us, even though it's in that warm phase, it's heating up.
30:04 So. If you have that clip, I'd love to get that clip of him saying that. It's an article. It's an article. I don't know if there's an actual video of him saying it, but it's a legitimate article. I can get it to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was last June. I'll pull it up. I'll get it. I'll put it in the Discord. Yeah. Perfect. For anyone watching who hasn't joined the Discord. Absolutely. There'll be an article in there. I'll get it. I'll drop it off later tonight. You know, there's so much going on in the Discord. I don't think I was able to get everything in there tonight. But we have about 20 minutes of B roll, so we better get started. Usually 15 minutes makes an hour and a half show. So let me let me see what we can do. This this is. Oh, oh. And I remember what I was going to say now. These next clips, what we got here from are from around the country.
30:52 OK, you get ready for this. We got some from Pittsburgh, Washington, Texas, Maine, Virginia. And so all these are news clips from all around the country. You know how I got them? I got those, Matthew. I got those. Are you asking me to as is rhetorical? I'm so excited. I want to tell you, I got them from TV eyes. So this this new thing and let me show you how great this is. OK, if you watch this program, you're tired of me talking about this. Let me just play this and I'll tell you about it later. Watch this. Welcome back to Talks Pittsburgh. Right now, we're talking all about sightings in outer space. We wanted to know if people believe in UFOs, aliens and other aliens. And other extraterrestrial activity. Our associate producer, Alonte Walker, went out to get some answers. Do you guys believe in UFO sightings or aliens?
31:44 Anything out there in space? What do you guys think? Yeah, I believe that there's something out there. Yeah, I think there's a lot of unexplained things. And I don't want to say yes or no. You watch to talk a little bit. There would be UFOs, all that. They'd be saying ABC and stuff. I don't know. Maybe I might not. Because, I mean, you got to think about it. They didn't really explore the whole world. So, I mean, that's what I think. There's got to be something out there, right? I mean, the government released a report a year or so ago talking about UFOs and all the strange sightings. And you got pilots up in the sky that see stuff. So, there's probably something out there that we don't know about. And now they have evidence. Like, they see, like, they have recently found out, like, they found water on Mars. Like, they say it might be some existence of some life on other planets.
32:30 What sort of? What sort of thing would happen if we encountered aliens? I think humans would attack them first. More than likely, they're not going to be so friendly. But you never know. You could find a good one out there. I think they'll be nice. Because if you're nice to someone, they should be nice to you. Yeah, they should. I wonder if they practice the same principles as we do, though. I know. It's so interesting to hear what people say. This is all stemming, by the way, because today is actually National Paranormal Day, which has nothing to do with UFOs or aliens. But there was actually the 15th annual Pittsburgh UFO Conference was held over the weekend in Westmoreland County. So, there were tons of people gathering to talk about sightings and what they believe in. And so, this kind of prompted us to get out there and ask people what they think. Makes your mind go . What do you think?
33:17 Do you think that there's something else? Well, here we go. Listen to this. So, there's 100,000 million stars in just the Milky Way alone. Okay? And then 100 to 200 billion galaxies. That's crazy. So, think about that. And then, here's some more statistics for you. It would take 4.24 light years to get to the closest star, which is 186,000 miles away. That's how fast it is. So, yeah. I mean, it's far. I don't think it would be near here. Yeah. But it's possible because, you know, there is stuff out there. I think it's really hard for people to conceptualize that we are alone, you know. And so, the U.S. government recorded more than 350 new reports of unidentified UFOs. Unidentified aerial phenomena since March of 2021. So, there are hundreds of new sightings every year and over the course of these last couple of years.
34:06 So, you know, we know that people are seeing things. It's just what's real, what's not. I have a headache from all those numbers now. And we leave you with no real answers. Anyways, thanks for weighing in. We appreciate it. Okay. So, interesting. So, what I got from that was, did you see how they took a survey from all these people? And they were like, okay, let's talk about this. What is going on here? What do you think? And the first guy, one of the first guys, he was in his 20s, maybe he was a teenager. He said, have you seen TikTok? We did a whole show on TikTok, didn't we? Yeah. I mean, so, that proves to me that people are learning from TikTok and saying, well, look, it's on TikTok. So, it has to be true. I see aliens. I mean, I don't know. It must be something.
34:52 And so, he said, well, I don't know. Yeah, you've seen TikTok, right? Now, then they went to a guy in his 40s, 50s, roughly, maybe 60s, I don't know. And both those guys were like, well, the government says it. So, they've been watching the news. This stuff's all over the place from the primary news sources for those in high school to the Pentagon talking about this in Congress. I mean, it's all over. People are just eating this stuff. And it hasn't even begun yet. So, I think that's something. Now, they also mentioned it's National UFO or Paranormal Day. We're going to go further into that when we talk about Washington, Texas, and Maine, and Virginia. What do you think about that? Anything I've said there? Matthew? Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. I think that definitely the entire world is being fed this stuff. It's at the forefront of some people's minds, and it's in the back of other people's minds.
35:54 But no matter what, it's there. The seeds have been planted. So, we just need to keep those seeds watered, and you're going to see them come to fruition. Now, I thought it was really funny. I laughed pretty hard. I mute my mic during the clips, but I actually busted out laughing when she said, it's National Paranormal Day. Oh, but there's no connection between aliens and UFOs and paranormal. I laughed so hard because anyone who's watched this channel. Who are those ladies? We need to link them this channel so that they can get the scoop here that absolutely it's related to the paranormal. I mean, we have all these experiencers who say so. We have people who are observers of the phenomenon, and they talk about it. Yeah, totally paranormal. And Tucker Carlson has actually said he found a link between both the paranormal, he said, paranormal events happen when these UAPs are around.
36:52 And so, absolutely, it's connected to the paranormal. Dead people appear when these things are around, supposedly dead people. These are actually deceptions. And did you notice how now it's rational to believe in extraterrestrials? I remember when I was a little kid, my grandmother was working out in the garden, and I just wandered up to her. And I was just like, hey, Nan, do you think that there are aliens out there? And she looked at me. She's like, no. Are you kidding? No. We're from Long Island. There's no such thing as aliens out there. And she just goes back to weeding. It's just so stupid that I brought it up to her. But now you see the difference is that this woman sitting here with her little tablet rattling off the distances to the stars and how many there are. It's got to be.
37:42 It's got to be. Yeah. Take all that into consideration. We're not alone. I mean, she's not wrong. We are not alone. There certainly are. There certainly are other intelligences out there. But it's not in the way that they think. I don't know. It's a comedy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm not going to bore everyone with these long presentations from the news, but I'm proving a point here that there are a significant amount of propaganda happening right now. And it's not just in one central location or on cable or prevalent. I've actually had to mute. I've been on TVI's. We're trying to raise money for this program that I want to use to gather the news and watch this phenomenon as it develops because it's becoming a bigger and bigger prominent part, as Roger Murnau talks about.
38:32 If you don't know what I'm talking about, watch Starfall. Go to StarfallMovie.com. I'm going to show a little clip here. The Starfall movie, you've got to go see it. If you don't go see it, you don't know what I'm talking about and you won't be in the know. And so you've got to go see that. StarfallMovie.com. We want to monitor. We want to monitor what's happening here because we know this is a part of Bible prophecy and it explains everything I'm talking about in that movie. And so what we do, what we want to do is watch the news in every state. And I'm doing that through a trial version of TVI's. TVI's is a service that lets you search through all this stuff and gather the news, gather the video that's the most important. So here are some news clips that I've gathered this week through my trial version of this software.
39:18 Check this out. Well, they say there's a national day for everything. And today happens to be National Paranormal Day. This morning, CORE explores how you can track UFOs, Bigfoot, other supernatural beings pretty close to home. And now to Texas' most famous ghost town. Apparently, there are a lot in the running to celebrate National Paranormal Day. But VetTexas.com researched ghost and UFO sightings in each state. Oh. It's ranked second with nearly 13,000 behind only California. As for ghost towns, the Lone Star State claims 307 spooky stuff. That's your eye on Texas. That's your close your eye on Texas. There are 307 spooky stuff? I'm trying to figure out what that classifies. Somebody call Scully and Mulder.
40:08 Get them here. We need investigations. Stat. It is 539 right now. Well, Ghostbusters TV's back. We didn't even know that was going to be a thing today earlier in the show. It's foreshadowing. All right. So you're going to need the Ghostbusters today because it is National Paranormal Day. That's the thing. This is a day where everybody who has had a paranormal or otherworldly experience is encouraged to tell their stories to others. Now, you might think of ghosts as paranormal. The term can also cover things like UFO, maybe even a strong sense of deja vu, anything that cannot be explained by normal science or reason. So that brings us to our Stumper. And we're sticking with the unexplained. But specifically here in the state of Maine. There is more than just music with something in the water. The festival is also about aliens. Earlier today, a group of UFO researchers hosted a happy hour at Abbey Road Pub.
41:00 So what's the deal with that? Well, Sarah Hammond joins us now live with the answer. Hey, Sarah. Hey, guys. So, yeah, this might seem like a random part of the festival. But if you think about it, it's really not. There's outer space and alien imaging all over Stumper. There's something all over something in the water. And Pharrell invited Enigma Labs to come here to the festival to launch their new app called Enigma. And they want to hear from you. Have you ever seen a UFO? When Richard Warren was just 8 years old, he says he saw something he could not explain. I was looking up in the sky, just stargazing, and I saw a traveling light. He said from where he was, a plane or military jet just didn't make sense. I definitely believe there's other life out there. And he's not alone in that belief. Alejandro Rojas and Ben Hanson have been studying UFOs for decades.
41:55 If you're a fan of the Discovery or Travel Channel, you may have seen some of their work. I think we know so little about the universe that we're living in very exciting times. They're hosting happy hours in Virginia Beach during Something in the Water to launch a new app called Enigma. Their goal is to compile sightings from all over the world into one place to help researchers gather data on UABs. Or unidentified aerial phenomena. About 90% of the cases turn out to be something that is misidentified, nothing unusual. 10% do end up being pretty strange. A lot of kind of orbs. Lights in the skies that kind of zigzag. Black triangles. They both say Virginia Beach has been a hotspot for UAB sightings, including a pretty famous case in 2014. Navy pilots on USS Roosevelt reported seeing multiple unexplained flying objects. And the Navy has said that had encouraged them.
42:46 To kind of redo their UAB sighting reporting protocols. To say, look, it's okay to report. We're taking this seriously. Last year, Deputy Director for Naval Intelligence Scott Bray said they were investigating approximately 400 reports of UABs. Help us solve the mystery. And if you miss them today, they'll be at Harvest tomorrow from 3 to 6. And they'll have a free drink for you. Yeah, right. Well, somehow the spirits are involved with the UFOs. I see. Free drinks. There's all kinds of the spirits, right? Some are in the air. Some are in your gut. So you got Washington, Texas, Maine, and Virginia Beach.
43:34 And showing that there's a new app to allow people to compile these sightings and kind of send them to the people that are researching this. I mean, this stuff is just, now it's cool. I mean, now it's cool. Yeah. I was going to say that. Yeah. No. You're so right. She said that Pharrell brought these guys? I don't know. To debut their app? Pharrell is the guy who, I mean, he's done other, he's like a producer of music. But he did that big song like, cause I'm happy. Oh, that? That's Pharrell? Yeah. Yeah. That's Pharrell. How can you not hear? You can't un-hear that song. It's like it was all over the place for a while. It's inspired. It was a 24-hour website. Yeah. Yeah. It was a 24-hour website that just played that one song over and over.
44:19 Oh my goodness. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. I know that song. But that's the thing. So you've got him promoting UFO. You've got all sorts of weird stuff. I mean, recently, what, when Vanessa Hudgens was doing talk shows talking about how she's doing witchcraft? All of these people who are in the pop culture scene are just really letting it all out. They're just showing it straight up what they're into. I mean, the fact that, so back in the late 60s, you have Jimi Hendrix who was confiding with his girlfriend saying, I'm possessed by a demon. I need help. She said he was standing in the mirror ripping his hair out, sobbing. And this was a really guarded secret of his. It was not something that he would publicly speak about. But the people who were close to him said, yeah, this was something that he struggled with.
45:09 Now you have celebrities that are on stage saying, hey, download this app and tell me about your UFO experiences because I believe in UFOs. What a wild time. We did a show. We've done a show about so many of these. Lady Gaga secretly sits in on UFO meetings dressed as something else and with well-known Cornell University professors. Or was it Stanford? It was a Stanford University professor in this one. And that was a whole other show. There was, what was the other lady you said? You just said a minute ago. Vanessa Hudgens. Vanessa Hudgens. She recently started talking openly about witchcraft. Yeah. And yeah. But there was another girl. And she was, man, she's on the tip of my tongue. She's lost her mind. The one who shaved her head. She was baptized in the Jordan River. Here. Someone in chat knows. If you're in chat. Demi Lovato. There you are. Demi Lovato.
46:06 Man. Christine. Christine Laxton. Yeah. Laxton is on the ball tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah. Thank you very much. I was like, I don't know how you got that so fast. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. We just looked down there. Demi Lovato. Demi Lovato. There it is. Very good. Love it. And so let me tell you. All those news clips that you saw and more, there's some I couldn't include because it was just repetitive information. I don't want to repeat the whole thing and become a mundane show. But what I want to do from now on, if we get this software, is we take this and make it its own show. If you want to see the up-to-date minute, I'm going to put these clips as they come out on Patreon, patreon.com slash strangenormal. And so we'll have up-to-the-day minute of these clips. What happened? What happened yesterday in the news about this stuff? And every week, we'll come out with a new show.
46:59 It won't be produced like this. It'll just be, hey, these are the clips that happened this week. And so people can watch and do this. If that is valuable to you, if that is something that is of value that you think that you would like to see on this program. If you would like to be committed, me to commit to you, to bring you this content, sign up for our Patreon, patreon.com slash strangenormal. Every little bit helps, patreon.com slash strangenormal. And if you want, become a part of the Discord, join our Discord server for, if you want to say it, Matthew, for the cost- Oh, for the low, low price of $20? For the cost of a sit-down meal? Yeah. For the old heads who are in the audience, we know, Brad used to always sell the Discord by saying, it's for the price of a sit-down meal, and it's just funny, because I always think that.
47:55 And you're on the Discord too, right? I am. I am on the Discord. And every time that $20 comes out on the first, I think to myself, well, it's worth my monthly sit-down meal. Of course. Because it really is. I mean, you got to eat all the time, and you got to eat, and you're like, well, okay, I can pay that. All right. I got to be on the show. I can pay the tip and everything. Hey, just, if you think that's a lot of money, that's 20 bucks. You sit down at a meal, you eat that. And so, if you want to help push this agenda forward, this agenda is what the Bible's talking about. It's the two main things, worship and spiritualism, are happening at the end of time. Help us help the world see the problem with this. This is the big deal. So go join patreon.com slash StrangeNormal. Okay. see us get TV eyes so we can do this better for you. Anyway, I really I did like it, though, Brad. I like that presentation. That was really cool. I know we kind of focused on the something in the water a little bit, but even the other stuff that was cool to the guy talking about the Texas spookies. I got a laugh out of that. I love that. That was fun. And before we totally move on, and I know you've got footage, I know you've got to move on. But wasn't it interesting that it was something in the water, too? That's something we often neglect on the show, I feel.
49:12 It's not just the UAP, but I suppose the UUP, right? Yeah, USO. USO, is that what they call it? Yeah, Unidentified Submerged Object. Submerged Object, right? Yeah. Well, that's interesting that, yeah, it was something in the water. And then it was UFOs shooting around in the water. I think that's definitely going to be playing in somehow to this weird deception. Yeah, I just thought it was interesting, too, that the woman caught on. And she said, there's already alien iconography all over the place here. So it fits right in. Wow. I didn't catch that. I'm going to include that in the bumper. That's really telling. There's actually a lot of clips in here that are going to go in the bumper because this is a night of nights. You're going to see some things in here that's pretty remarkable. So hang around, because especially until the last bit, we really hit the punchline at the last. I've got another clip. We're going to go into... Into Brazil. We're already going into what the title is on this program, and we're only halfway through the program. So let's dig into it, because we got a lot even better stuff after that. So check this out. Joining us now is filmmaker James Fox. He's got a new documentary out, Moment of Contact. It's been out for a little while. He was on the Joe Rogan Experience, and it details an extraordinary incident in Brazil from the 1990s. James, it's very... We're very excited to have you join our show.
50:41 Thank you. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much. Thank you guys for having me on. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. Yeah, it's our pleasure. Let's put the poster up there on the screen for those who are interested, and I do encourage everyone to go out and to rent the documentary, to watch the documentary wherever it's available. Moment of Contact, the Roswell of Brazil. Joe Rogan heard about the case a number of times. He had some of his guests talking about it. We had sent him links. The level of skepticism is warranted, and I understand. And I understand that. But all I ask people is that suspend judgment and just listen to the evidence of the people that were there, the firsthand eyewitness testimony from military officers, from firemen, from doctors, from civilians, lawyers. It's absolutely mind-bending, and what you're left with is something truly extraordinary took place in Virginia, Brazil, January 20th, January 1996. And we're going to get into it. We're going to get into what he said in just a moment.
51:43 So that was kind of the intro, and this guy, he's been to Brazil, he's been doing this documentary, and he's found some incredible things. Do you have anything to say before we get into those incredible things, Matthew? No, just that I think it's telling that he was on Joe Rogan, because Joe Rogan is, I mean, his audience has just grown and grown and grown, and people watch Joe Rogan religiously. Like, it's a whole other level. I know we've got our weekly viewers here. But there are people who, they watch Joe Rogan, and they are like, this guy has wisdom. Everyone he brings on, it's like, whoa, my mind is blown. So the fact that he was on there saying this stuff, and then you see what happens. Now the news organizations are picking up Joe Rogan's guests to bring on to their shows because he's so much more popular than they are. It's just crazy how the tables have turned. It's like you've got the suits are sitting there. Probably watching Joe Rogan together, like, who's this guy, huh?
52:44 Jeremy Fox, who's that? Get him on the phone. What does he want, money? Exposure? We've got it. We're the news. We're the news. Come on there. Everyone has cut the cable and left, but that's exactly it. So let's get into what he actually says here. This is what happened in Brazil. I still have trouble believing. I'll put it that way. Here we go. In and around the town of Virginia, Brazil, January 1996, you had farmers, you had truckers, you had professors, and in particular, Carlos Sousa, who's also an ultralight pilot, who witnessed a cylindrical, sort of cigar-shaped object about the size, a little bigger than a really big school bus. It was metallic. It didn't have any wings. It didn't have any exhaust vents or visible means of propulsion. It was just a cylindrical-shaped object with a gash in the side of it that looked like it was in trouble. We filmed a number of witnesses that saw this in the middle of the night, and it was just struggling to stay.
54:00 According to the witnesses, it was struggling. It looked like it was going down, but struggling. And then eventually, there was a witness at a place called Maialini Farm on the outskirts of Virginia that saw it impact. The ground went up there. Military arrived. He was met at gunpoint to leave the area. Never once did Carlos Sousa think that I just witnessed something that crashed potentially from another world. He thought it was some super-secret government craft. He had no idea. A few days later, there were reports in the town of these, like, four feet tall. I know this sounds crazy. Believe me, I do. But these are very credible and lots of reports coming in. Okay. Entities that have brown skin, no hair, oily, big, big red eyes, ridges on the forehead, spindly, weak, frightened, and scared, cowering, non-threatening.
54:57 And these reports came in from fire department, from police department, from local civilians. I mean, one of the most incredible accounts is from three girls. So I think what's fascinating about that is listen to how he described them. Weak, spindly, scared, almost their head hanging down. Not once did they even describe something that looks like what the typical alien gray looks like, if you know what I mean. And I think this is part of the deception. They want to make them look like, oh, these things are non-threatening. Oh, we can trust these things. They just happened to crash their billion light-year-away craft. That is super high, high advanced into the earth because, I remember one report said, because we shot our radars at it.
55:51 We shot our radars at it. It made it crash. How in the world do you make an advanced ship crash by shooting a radar at it? And not only that, if they are so advanced, why do they keep crashing all the time? Ever thought about that? Maybe they haven't got around to implementing like DUI, intergalactic laws, you know, just totally soft stop ramming. They're on those free spirits they're giving around with the app. That was a good one. Yeah, no, these, the way he talks about them, it's like, these are basically, they're cosmic puppies, you know, like, look how cute, look how cute they were. Except for like, I guess the oilier part that he described them as. I was like, yeah. It's a little bit off-putting.
56:44 But he did say specifically, like, harmless or what was it? Not intending to cause harm. Right. Okay. People are going to fall head over heels for these aliens. And I believe that it's going to be a variety. I think the introduction of the deception won't just be, we are the one species who has been around. It's going to be the federation. It's going to be the expanse. They've got all shapes and sizes. So anyone. You know, if you like the little, you know, brown wrinkled aliens, you've got them. If you want the Nordic looking aliens who look more like humans, you've got them. You know, you want some toads? Sure. I'm out too. You know, whatever it takes. Satan and his minions are there. Just, they will do whatever. Whatever.
57:35 There's no boundary that's going to remain intact to fool people and get them to be sympathetic. Yeah. To their cause. Right. And if my buddy Mikey was here, he'd say, you need to say, Revelation 16 says they look like frogs. Of course, Revelation is symbolic. And I know I'm going to be crucified in the chat room for that. But I mean, absolutely. They, I mean, it's interesting that, that Revelation uses frogs to describe these things. And what do most alien greys look like? These big eyed, you know, green looking frogs. And so that's fascinating. And just, just, just that parallel. In and of itself. But, so what do you think about this, this, they're working, so they said they're working with the U.S. Air Force. You were in the Navy at one time, right?
58:26 Do you just pull up to Brazil? Pull up to a, well, a coastal region. In your ship and say, hey, we're here. We just run, run, run out of shore. Right in there? No. No. No. We don't typically, there are times where I guess without getting into too much details, there have been times where we've been on one mission doing one thing and then something changed, something new popped up and then we quickly diverted and it's like, okay, we're doing this now. And there were times even when just being privy to that, I was a sonar technician. And so I had a secret clearance and in the Navy. So sometimes, you know, a little more of what's going on than say the. The boats and mates or, you know, the, the cooks that all they know is like, oh, we were going towards Japan and now we're going towards India.
59:19 I don't know. That's just what's happening. But it's like, okay, there's a little, there's something going on. There's a method to this madness. But I, yeah, I think it's interesting that the U.S. Air Force is just swooping in to Brazil, which tells me that maybe, okay, on its face, just looking at this on its face, you have to wonder if they just Winston Churchill. Who was a Freemason, by the way, and the Satanist, probably in everything, but name, he said, never let a good crisis go to waste. And that to me is a very sinister principle, isn't it? Because what he's saying is if something goes wrong, use it to your advantage. So what could have happened potentially? And I don't know all the details is just me. I'm theorycrafting here. If there was some type of a prototype drone or aircraft or something that crashes in Brazil. Yeah. Maybe then you start manifesting to the people around and they start seeing aliens.
1:00:18 But really, really, it's it's a piece of technology from the United States, but they're going to capitalize. They're not going to let this crisis go to waste. So they're going to start appearing to people so that they think, oh, no, this was an alien craft that went down. That's that was something that looking over this material that I thought that could be the case. Hmm. Interesting. So they said that. Well, we're going to get into this now where they they said they actually had deaths because of this. This is interesting. Watch this. But one of the points that is being taken away is that these pathologists describe a bacteria that's never been seen before on Earth and of killing a person who ended up transporting these creatures and alluding also to E.T. and kind of the light at the end of this. Can you translate some of that for us as to. I get the chills. I get the chills as someone who's been looking into this case for 12 years. And I know that Marco Leal, my my Brazilian counterpart, has been doing it much longer than I have. The fact that we've got these guys and I tell you, I literally was doing Zoom calls a couple of days leading up to going on Joe Rogan, begging and pleading with these doctors to come forward.
1:01:26 And one doctor said, hey, if this if he comes forward, I'll come forward with him. We'll do it together. Power in numbers. And then ultimately they did. And they provided us with long form. But basically what they're saying was in their entire career. They've never seen anything like this bacterial infection that killed a perfectly healthy 23 year old military police officer. And they said that they threw the I even interviewed we even interviewed Dr. Cesario, who worked on him while he was alive. He said, I threw the kitchen sink at him and this nothing was working. And this bacteria, it was just a they never seen anything like it. So they took samples, which I know that they're going to have more details. On about this type of bacteria. But those are just the initial statements that they're making. And again, I have to remind your audience, this is an ongoing investigation. I'm not going to put this in another film.
1:02:22 I'm going to put it out to the general public immediately because I think that this is this is a story that could prove once and for all could settle the debate once and for all. Whether these things are real or not, because we have a case, unlike Roswell, that's so recent that the vast majority of people in. Which. Witnesses are still alive and they're coming forward right now in droves. So they're saying that this is this is like Roswell. Well, we're not even sure. I mean, the law says that Roswell was a UFO crash incident, but they said that this is a more recent event. And so they have witnesses that are still alive. So I think that's that's interesting that they have all these witnesses that are coming around. I'm going to go watch this documentary just out of curiosity and to see just how credible it is, because. Yeah. Fascinating. But what do you think about that?
1:03:13 What do you think about the bacteria that killed the 23 year old officer? I. I know at the end of time, it says in Revelation that he will be able to. The Antichrist heal. So what if something was introduced here on Earth that seemed otherworldly? Using my finger quotes again for those who are listening. They have bacteria that we have never seen before, but they can heal us. Hmm. Sounds like an episode of V. ABC did a TV episode a long time ago called V. They came and they healed people in the sky. Hmm.
1:04:02 Hmm. I. I think it's so the bacteria thing. I was showing up a little bit of the scripture just so we can go into that. It's it's interesting because. So a lot of psychological conditions. As a Christian, I look at those and I think that some of them may be chemical imbalances. Maybe there are issues people are having other times. It seems like there's something deeper that maybe there is some demonic direct demonic influence or possession or something. I can't deny the scriptures. When Jesus around on Earth, he was driving out demons in every town. It's not like he just happened to go to one place where it was like, oh, this is the really, really bad part of Israel where all the demons live. No, he's he's walking around and they are everywhere.
1:04:53 I mean, it's. It's what they really are all over the place. And if you go into Luke 13. Scene here and Jesus is addressing the people and he's saying. And ought not this woman being a daughter of Abraham whom Satan hath bound low these 18 years be loose from this bond on the Sabbath day. And he's referring to this woman who has. It says in in 1311 and behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infamy or infirmity 18 years and was bowed together and could no wise lifter lift up herself. So we know that. Demonic spirit. I mean, I wouldn't put him past doing something that is like a bacterial infection into the medical world. Yes, they identify it.
1:05:49 They say this is the means by which this person was killed, but. Yeah. An evil spirit could be the direct cause. And that's just we're looking at basically the smoking gun. But the one who was holding the gun is some type of evil being. Right. Right. We can't perceive. What was the Bible passage, or what was the story you mentioned? That was out of Luke 13. So the full thing is Luke 13, 10 through 17. If anyone wants to. Which woman was it again? So it's just a woman that is mentioned when he was teaching in the synagogues on the Sabbath. Okay, okay, okay. I didn't want to duplicate what you just said because I was thinking about something totally different. The Pool of Bethesda comes to mind, too, when they— Oh, that's John 5, I think, right?
1:06:41 Yeah, so when Jesus came and healed that guy, he said that people had gathered at this pool because they saw that when it was stirred, you could be healed. And so at least one, we assume, at least that's the lore at the time, one person was healed when they got into the water when it was stirred. Well, we know that wasn't a good angel. It says there was an angel that stirred the water. But we know it wasn't a good angel because a good angel wouldn't want everyone climbing in over each other and defeating the other person that was weaker than them in order to heal themselves. That's the characteristics of Satan. And if he was—and just to further your point, if that angel was on God's duty, if that angel was placed there by God, Jesus Christ would have came to the Pool of Bethesda and rather than healing that man himself, he would have said, See, look upon this pool.
1:07:34 This is what we—like, my father. My father has set this forth as a place of healing for the people. Like, he wouldn't have messed with it. It would have been something that he wanted to happen. But as you're saying, yeah, there's competition. There's people scrambling over each other. Sorry, it's just an interesting thing because there is a bit of debate surrounding that pool sometimes. It's a weird point in the scriptures where I feel like people are—the footing just isn't quite right. It's like the demon visiting Saul, right? Like people say, oh, no, that was Samuel's ghost. It's like, back up, back up. Exactly. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. The Witch of Endor. Sorry. Yeah. Continue. I just wanted to— No, yeah. —discuss what you were saying. Let's finish what this guy is saying about the fascinating UAP incident. He's got one more thing to say about legislation that's happening. Check this out. Well, one of the points that is being taken away is that these pathologists describe a bacteria that's never been seen before on Earth.
1:08:30 They end up killing a person who ended up transporting these creatures and alluding also to E.T. and kind of the light at the end of the spectrum. Can you translate some of that for us as to the big takeaways? I get the chills. I get the chills. As someone who's been looking into this case for 12 years— Is this the clip we just watched? I think it is. —that Marco Leão, my Brazilian counterpart— Absolutely. While we're on the subject matter of crash material, just before we get into this, your audience just has to hear this, okay? This is the recently passed—excuse me while I put my old man glasses on. UAP. UAP. UAP legislation by Senator Gillibrand and Marco Rubio, Gallego, and Gallagher also contributed to this. But in any case, this just passed, signed into law, the UAP legislation. I'm going to read you one of the bits of text, and I'm going to ask your audience, what prompted this?
1:09:24 Okay, here we go. Any activity or program by a department or agency of the federal government or contractor of such a department or agency relating to— Any activity or program by a department or agency relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena, including with respect to material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research and development, detection and tracking. They talk about potentially crashed materials, like covered UFOs. The legislation's right here. You can go read it. So that's fascinating, huh? I mean, I've watched every single episode of these. These boring C-SPAN reports that have them in Congress talking about this or whatnot, wherever it is. But before I go on and talk about that, I want to thank you, Julianne Cotter. She gave us a super chat.
1:10:22 She says, like this video, everyone. And I'm looking at the graph right here. When she said that, all of a sudden, viewers started going up. I think that's fascinating. So please like the video because it brings it out to more people, puts it in their timelines, puts it in their front page. So they— They can find this content, too. More likes, the more you can help us. And if you would like to help us further, please join our Patreon and Discord. What do you think about that clip, Matthew? What do you think about him saying all that? I always have a hard time when people say they've retrieved pieces of a craft. Or they say, we have— We have physical bodies, too. That— It always— It never sits well with me because, to me, this is a spiritual deception.
1:11:17 Yeah. So whatever— Theoretically, if they actually are retrieving something, my thought would be that there are, like, I guess, agents on them outside of their control that they don't know about, maybe with technology more advanced than what they're used to, that could— See— Under them. I don't necessarily know. And then it begs the question, because people have also said, okay, maybe demons can manifest craft or material or something like that. It's just very weird, though. Obviously, the nature of this thing, it's secretive. We're never going to have all of the facts presented before us. But, yeah, I don't know. There's— Yeah, it's interesting, huh? I'm not alone in this. It's just— It doesn't— Like I said, it doesn't sit well with me, huh?
1:12:09 It doesn't. I'm like, hmm. I got my doubts, man. And I don't know why. You keep breaking up every now and then. But I don't think we can fix that tonight. I don't think it's your microphone, because you skip ahead. But I agree. Every time you— Every time we have a problem, every time this comes up, I mean, either about physical craft or physical aliens, I think, oh, come on. But we do know that Satan can change himself. He can change himself physically into anything that's— I mean, he's changed himself into a snake. If he can do that, he can change himself into a number of things. We know he can manifest himself as a physical being that looks like someone that you know or an apostle or a dead loved one. And I think that's going to happen more and more as time goes on. I've had friends that tell me that they have known people that have had this happen to them. So I think that alone is fascinating. Because you can't say, oh, yeah, I'm going to go, and I'm going to believe whatever my dead relative or whatever it was that appeared to them.
1:13:16 I believe what they said. Well, if you are taking their word for it over what the Bible says, if you're taking their word for it over what God says, that's called idolatry. Idolatry. And that's a sin. That's what God hates the most, and he's not going to allow that back into heaven. This isn't salvation by works, folks. This is obedience. Is obedience, this is what I'm going to say, is obedience legalism? Is it legalism to say, I absolutely won't do bad things. I won't go and unlovingly do something to my brother. I use the analogy, and I think you brought this up to me, Matthew, earlier this week in the Discord. I think this is a very good analogy. When you are, let's say it's.
1:14:06 Mother's Day, or if you have, if you, everyone has a mother, but if you have a wife or a husband, and you want to buy them flowers, you go to the cash register, you give them flowers, and you're like, ah, ah, I got to give them flowers. Otherwise, I don't love them. And the cashier is like, yeah, you do. Here, pay for that stuff. And you go and you unlovingly give them flowers because that's how you love someone. What is that? That's called legalism because you're doing something. But you're not. Loving. That's not. That's not the motive is completely disconnected. However, what if that cash register, you go to that person and you have a complete change of heart with your loved one, your mother, your, your significant other. And you say, man, I love them so much. I want to go and I want to give them flowers. So you go to the cash register and she's, she's looking at you again.
1:14:58 She's like, oh, that guy's here again. He's here to, uh, uh, he's such a legalist because he came in the last time. He was like. Oh, I don't want to do this. Ah, and you buy it, but this time your mindset is different. You love, love the person so much and you buy them flowers and you give them to them and, and your, your actions are exactly the same, exactly the same, except the cash register. The person that was cashing you out can't read your mind. So she thinks you're a legalist. I think there's a lot of confusion at the end of time. There's going to be a lot of people that are doing. Obedient things to God out of love, and this is what God means by having a change of heart, because he said with the new covenant is about changing the heart of the person. I will give a new heart to them and they will keep my laws. So, so the covenant continued, but how, what changed better promises? God is promising that he will change the heart of the man. And so those better promises.
1:16:05 Are instilled on the heart. Are we still keeping the same laws? Yeah, but not out of absolute, oh, you know, I have to do these things, but because you absolutely love God. And so I think that's, that's fascinating. What do you think, Matthew? Am I, am I completely out of my mind here? No, I don't think so. I think that, I mean, I want to be obedient to the precepts of God. Because that's what he wants me to do. Do I think that being obedient to those precepts is going to somehow help me earn salvation or I'll achieve salvation through that? No, I won't. You can't do anything for salvation. But it's, it's clear that we bear fruit. Scripture talks about it over and over. You can't help but bear fruit. It's going to be a wicked fruit or it's going to be a fruit that is born out of the spirit of God.
1:17:04 That fruit that is born. That fruit that is born out of the spirit of God. That is not your ticket into heaven. That's not how it works. Jesus Christ, faith in Jesus Christ. That is it. It's, it's his works. It's his sinless sacrifice on the cross. That is where we find redemption. There is absolutely nothing I have to offer. All of my righteousness is as filthy rags. That's the truth of the matter. However, I am going to strive for righteousness. Always. Because that is what my God wants of me. Because you love God. Yeah. I love him. He's done so much for me. That's the least I could do. The least I could do is just try to emulate his character with his help too. Not even just on my own. It's impossible for me to do it on my own.
1:17:56 The commandments that God has given to me, I could not have come up with on my own. This is an objective truth that's beyond myself. And that's, I think... I think what God admires is someone who was born into sin, sinful being, takes a look at their condition and says, this isn't good. This isn't the best that there can be. There has to be something better. And when you see the character of God reflected in his law, it's reflected in his law, in the person of Jesus Christ, who lived out God's law. You then say, wow, this is what I want to be like so desperately. Please, in your prayers, ask, let me be like this man and not like the man that I am today. And the law, the law, God's law of love. I mean, that's what this is. The commandments are, you know, love your God.
1:18:52 The first four are love God. The last six are love your neighbor, your other person, you know, that's in your vicinity. Everybody's your neighbor. I mean, Christ emphasized that in the New Testament. So what is it that God... Christ came and changed. Because it says, a lot of times I hear people say, well, you know, I don't believe that Christ came. He came to fulfill the law. So it's over. So does that mean I can go, I can kill, I can remove my pledge of keeping my oath? I can lie? I can take my neighbor's wife? I can steal? Is this all stuff that I can do now? Well, yeah, you can do it, but that's not loving. It's still sin. It's still sin. So what does that mean? If those things are still sin, it still means we're under the law. It still means... I said in the last broadcast, the biblical definition of sin is transgression of the law.
1:19:50 If the law no longer exists, then we are no longer sinners. That is not the case. Any man who says that he is not a sinner is a liar. Read 1 John. The fulfillment of the law, fulfilling the law, is Jesus living the law out. It's like a contrast. If you fulfill a contract, then you've completed all of the terms there, and you're good to go. You've fulfilled it. Jesus fulfilled the law. He checked every box, and he never violated it once. And that is why he is the sinless lamb that is offered for us, who are all violators of the contract. Yeah, I have not come to destroy the law. I've come to fulfill the law. And so you can't say...
1:20:37 Not one jot or tittle will pass away either. I mean, he was very clear on that. It's an interesting thing. Yeah, sometimes you can be accused of legalism, but at the end of the day, I just don't see what the problem is with trying to keep the Ten Commandments. Like I said, not keeping them to be saved. Not why you're keeping them, but you're keeping them out of obedience. And Jesus said that in rebuking a woman who was talking about how holy, and Mary must be. This is another thing we had going on in the Discord. We were posting about this. Maybe this is why it's kind of fresh for people. It was dropped out of nowhere. There's been little discussions in the Discord and stuff of just us, people sharing scripture back and forth, talking about this. But yeah, anyway, he says that...
1:21:25 He's like, blessed is the person who hears the word and keeps it. It's like there's a lot of... Obedience goes hand in hand. With having faith in Jesus. If I'm going to listen to what Jesus is saying, Jesus is constantly telling you to live by his precepts. Which a precept is like a behavior. It's just, this is who I want to be. A really excellent way I've actually heard the commandments described is that when you read them, don't read it as like, thou shalt not, thou shalt not. Read it as a character assessment where you're saying, thou shalt not. Thou shalt not. Thou shalt not. You know, like if you're talking about like with your wife, thou shalt not commit adultery. You know, thou shalt not kill. It's not a, like coming down on you and grinding you and being like, don't you dare do this. It's a definition.
1:22:21 And that's when we're changed, what are we going to be changed into? In the twinkling of an eye, we're going to be transformed. What will we... Ask yourself, what will it be like? What will I be like? Well, take those commandments. That's what you're going to be like. You're not going to be someone who kills. You're not going to bear a false witness. You're not going to commit adultery. The Bible explicitly says that we get a new body. Our body will be perfect. But our character, our character is what we take to heaven. So you, you know, he's not going to change your memories. He's not going to change your, your, your, your love for the things. So let's, let's, let's, he says, work on that. This, let me, let me correct that with you. You can't do it on your own. But if you work with me, not that we can do anything. Christ living in us can do everything.
1:23:11 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me, the Bible says. Anyway, we've, we've gone way too far over this. But I think we can talk about this forever. I'm glad. We need to take some time out every once in a while and just talk about biblical concepts. It's how we're going to root it in our faith. And speaking of... Well, let's get back to the madness. Let's get back to the Christ. Crazy stuff. Absolutely. So check this out. This is, this is nuts because... Tell me what an alien smells like. This is Korbel. He saw a UFO just recently. And Korbel, we know he's been around this program quite a bit. But he's going to describe something that I think is pretty remarkable here. And we're going to get into... The main thing I want to talk about is did it appear when he said it did?
1:24:01 Watch this. Think about that while you're watching this. Hey, man. So cool. Coming up to hang out with the UFO expert. I was kind of hoping I'd see a UFO, you know, just kind of digging at me. I've never seen one either. Never really a machine that I could say that's a UFO. But within a few moments of asking to see something, I think I was looking and I hear... And Jeremy goes, Dave, turn around. And I turn around. And in the distance, there's this bright orangey gold thing kind of pulsing with orange gold light. And with some white lights on the front of it, or assuming it's the front, because that's the way it was traveling. And looking at it, and it's clearly... And you see the commercial air traffic all around it. And the difference is very stark. Very stark. Okay. So that was the intro into what's happening. I want to quickly move right on to the next one, because I think the next one has a little more info.
1:24:59 Here we go. I'm looking. And he's standing there. His back is to it. And from a 45-degree angle, which looked from as far as the distance could be from high up, seemed like it came from space. This thing just shot down at a 45-degree angle, just glowing, right? And then it, boom, hits and levels off. So that was the first thing. And that's when I was able to say, hey, turn around. I already knew this was weird. I thought maybe it was a comet or something. I thought it would end up being super pro-Zix. I've never seen bonafide machine UFO. And we were both kind of like had never seen anything like that. And the thing that really struck me, for me, and I know this is maybe different than for Dave, but it was self-luminous. And so it was, you could say it was glowing. It was self-luminous. But it would pulse with this extreme power.
1:25:50 That's the thing that really struck me was the power that it took to do this. And there were four pulses. And when it pulsed, it kind of went, like, and there was no sonic boom. It was these movements. And seeing it descend in from 45 degrees. And it was so, to me, this tremendous power. Because you could see it was a machine. It had these big three lights that weren't shooting, like, beams. Yeah, two smaller lights with a larger white light in the middle of it. And they were pulsing, too, but at a different tempo than the rest of the craft. Than the body of the craft. So, interesting to me that he said that he saw a machine. I go back to the same concept that if they can appear as a snake, if they can appear as a dead relative, they can appear as a machine, too. And a big one. And it was powerful. That reminds me, the Bible says that these angels, the good angels, actually, they came down in the Bible, and they said they destroyed how many men in an army?
1:26:52 I forget what it says. I mean, like, armies and armies of people. These things are incredibly powerful. And so, I think... The only salvation we have is our reliance on Christ for safety. I think it's going to become more and more evident as time progresses. Because they can appear as anything, they can deceive as anything, and they can also be very powerful. What do you think about that? Yeah, I think that they're definitely putting on a show, by the sound of it. They seem to know when people are observing them, and from different accounts that I've read, there are people who are standing there, and they're like, there are UFOs in the sky! And some people are saying, I see them, I see them! And other people are like, what are they on? Because I don't see anything up there.
1:27:46 So, they even can have this selective nature, where certain people... I think it has to do with a certain mindset, I think it has to do with a certain willingness, I think that that's the boundary line that most people have yet to seriously cross, but it seems like more and more people are crossing the boundary. They are saying, show me yourself! Like, if you're out there, I want to see you! It just reminds me of poor old Chris Bledsoe. We did a show on him a while back, and that's what this all began with. He was at the lowest point in his life. He said he went out and prayed out loud into the heavens to just show him. And it's like, at that point, you're leaving the door wide open, that's it. And Jeremy Corbell, I mean, I think he's been desperate for something like this. And so is his friend. That's what they said. They were wishing to see something.
1:28:39 They said, man, I'm out here with the UFO expert, and all I want to see is a UFO. And they saw one. You know what that reminds me of? Disney. And you know why that reminds me of Disney? Why, because you wish upon a star? When you wish upon a star. So, I mean, they always say... Nailed it. You should... We need an album. Don't you think that would be great? Maybe that's a good way to raise money. Oh, you're going to be blush. Oh, man. So, I think it's fascinating, because what are stars in the Bible? The dragon, according to Revelation, swept a third of the stars out of the sky. And we recognize that as angels, because in other places, they're congruently matched angels. I mean, that's what they call them. And it's interesting, also, that they look like stars when they're flying around in the sky, because they're big. They're bright, glowing orbs of light way up high in the sky.
1:29:37 So, the Bible has all the answers already. And you don't want to be wishing you saw one of these things. Definitely not. We've had absolute... I forget what it is. Pentagon officials? I want to say it's Pentagon, where they have said, we've had military men die because they go up to these things and say, hey, what is this big, bright light out here? And the... The energy from these things rattles their brain and kills them, basically. They have brain trauma by getting too close to these things. That's another show. You've got to binge watch the entire channel to see some of the stuff we've been covering here. What do you think? Yeah, I think you're right on the money with this one. Yeah, that whole wishing upon a star thing, it's so weird that that's... I was just... I had to look it up, the lyrics to that.
1:30:34 Have you seen the full lyrics? No. Yeah, it's been a while. Jiminy Cricket's the one that sings it, so it's like, it's been a while, but... When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are. Anything your heart desires will come to you. If your heart is in your dream, no request is too extreme. When you wish upon a star, as dreamers do. And it's just funny that it specifically is saying, if your heart is in your dream, because that's what... I was thinking, any old person can go out there and just say, like, I want to see a UFO, you know? I just think of, like, some guy, like, in college getting stoned and sitting down on his balcony, like, man, it'd be cool if I saw a UFO. And he's like, and nothing happens. This is not... He's not someone with his heart in it, you know what I mean?
1:31:24 He's just, like, a casual, like, oh, it'd be cool if that was there. In the same way, he kind of wants to see, like, a little magic trick, you know? These are people who they're... Their heart is in it. It's going to give them a sense of purpose. It's going to give them a sense of belonging. It's going to make things more comfortable for them to see a UFO and to know, I'm not alone. There you are. And then that's what's really taking place here, I think. Right, 100%, absolute. Next clip. This is interesting. Here we go. This is a common occurrence that happens. And I just thought, I thought that I'd throw this in here because oftentimes people get so wrapped up in what's going on, they don't want to pull out their cameras and record it, including the guy who knows better to pull out his camera and record it because everyone always tells the people, hey, what is that UFO guy?
1:32:22 Why he's talking and he didn't get it on camera? Why didn't he pull out his phone? I think there's something spiritual happening here. I don't think it's just people are forgetting because there's too many of this happening. Take a look. It was almost... It was comical. It was like what you'd imagine drawn in a 1940s comic book. I wanted to see it... Retro, kind of. Retro. You drew it, right? I did draw a picture of it, yeah. But our reaction was pretty crazy. I practiced the quick draw on my camera. I'm not going to be that UFO guy that doesn't pull out his camera, right? But I'm thinking the whole time I'm sitting there, I literally said out loud, I'm not even going to try to film this. Yeah, and I remember hearing that and going, it's... In my mind, it just seemed like, that's a weird thing. And then I also, in retrospect, go, it's really weird that I didn't call you out on it right away. But neither was... Except for that one time that Jeremy said, yeah, I'm not going to try and film this.
1:33:16 Neither of us spoke for the entire event. And it felt like you were addressing somebody. But it wasn't... You weren't really addressing me. I hadn't said anything. Yeah. You were just saying it out loud like somehow that thought popped into your head. Okay, let's stop it right there. I'm going to move it right on to the next one. Here we go. It was almost comical. It was like what you'd imagine drawn in a 1940s comic book. What do you make of that? That you say it and then boom, one appears. Is that an invocation that it appeared because you said it? I don't... It seems... It seems like it was. It seems almost weirder if it wasn't. You know, that we were just coincidentally... We were just coincidentally discussed this.
1:34:05 Two people who were interested but have never seen anything. And there it is. And how long did it last and what happened at the end? It was a few minutes. Yeah, a few minutes. Yeah, we watched it. Never pulled out that camera of mine. And as I said, except for that, we didn't say anything until it went away behind the mountains. And just the weirdness that it felt like it was being presented to us. It was like a display, a performance for your benefit. Because it circled the valley. Yeah. And it didn't... It didn't go past us. It got to where we were and hung there for quite a while. You know? I don't know what to say, man. It was soft and weird. I don't know what to say. It'd be interesting. Well, we'll put the image out on this episode of Weaponized. And hopefully our listeners, our audience can react. Or maybe some of them have seen something similar. Because I've never seen an image like that. Like what you guys showed me.
1:34:55 Yeah. I've never even heard of a UFO shaped like that. That's the other thing. I wanted a disc. I wanted a cylinder. You know, I want to see something. Something? He wants to see something. I want to see something! And you know what often happens? They see something that their heart desires. And it's not necessarily what they want. Because the way I've seen dreams and visions and things that are manipulating your mind work. And this isn't always the case. This isn't like a hard fact. But what I've seen in the Bible is when God gives something... To someone, dreams and visions, they use objects that are very familiar to them. And so you have, it wasn't Pharaoh, it was, why does the big green cucumber come to my head?
1:35:47 Because I watched too much VeggieTales as a kid. What is his name? The other king. Larry? Not Larry. It was the other one. Maybe it's a pickle. He was a pickle! That's what he was. He wasn't a cucumber. Cucumbers are pickles. Boy, we are off topic. I don't know. It's Nebuchadnezzar. That's what he was. Nebi. Oh, okay. So he, Nebuchadnezzar, used to have these, he had this dream, right, in the Bible, where he saw this, and prove me wrong, maybe I got this wrong, but he saw this, right, it was the skinny cows and the skinny corn, and they ate up, right? This was before the big famine. Am I completely off? No. You're thinking of Genesis. Am I? Yeah, it's Joseph. Joseph? And the dreams. Which one is it? I'm gonna go look it up, because I remember this. It's the son of Israel. Son of Jacob. Who was it? What was the king?
1:36:44 Okay, chat. Who was the king? His brother sold him. It was Pharaoh. It was just a pharaoh. Pharaoh had that dream? His brother sold him into slavery. He was bought by the Egyptians. He was so good that he worked for the Egyptians. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. He was the king. And he was so good that he worked his way up through the ranks. Pharaoh's wife... This is like a Cliff Notes version, people. Go and read it yourselves. This is great stuff in the Bible. But Pharaoh's wife tried to sleep with him. He struggled with her, got away from her. She said, he was trying to assault me. Pharaoh throws him in jail. Then Pharaoh has disturbing dreams and he's like, I really need these dreams interpreted. There's Joseph who is sitting in that cell. Okay. I'll call him out.
1:37:29 I need his help on this. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm thinking of the dream of Nebuchadnezzar. Well, I was thinking Nebuchadnezzar, but he had the dream in Daniel. Yeah, Nebuchadnezzar dreamed a lot. In your defense, there are quite a few Nebuchadnezzar dreams. That wasn't the one I was thinking of, though. You're right, that was Pharaoh. So Pharaoh had a dream of the cows and the corn. So what was that? That was cattle, livestock, and that was farming. So that's what he was familiar with. So God used what he was familiar with and put it in his dream. And all throughout the Bible, we see common things that people are familiar with. What did John have dreams about? Well, he had dreams about primarily, I mean, these things look like crazy beasts, but they were things he was familiar with and that he described, right? And so oftentimes, I think it's interesting that when we see things, let's say Korbel and his friend there saw something, they were actually seeing something that was already in their mind.
1:38:28 So I think that's interesting because often at the end of time, we might also see things. Maybe it's dead relatives, something we're familiar with. They like to use what's familiar to us. So I'm going to let that rest and I'll come back to that later. But that's fascinating. Did you see anything else that was interesting out of that clip? Oh, it was just cool that the host identified what I had just said, where it was like, oh. It seemed to be like a show just for you. I'm like, bingo. I'm not the only one who realizes this stuff. Really, but it's just true. It's not like you have to have a genius intellect to understand any of this. Just look at it enough times and it's going to make sense to you. It's a pattern.
1:39:15 It repeats. That's why we're able to have this channel and go into detail on these things because they have a mode of operation. And once you understand it and you pick it out, all of a sudden it all just falls into place and you can see it for what it is. Yeah. I just think it's funny that he wanted the cylinder or the disc and he got like a calzone looking thing. They're just messing with him at that point. It comes down and he said, yeah, it came down and it stood there and it left. Just like you said, it came down and then it's left just for him. So that was actually one of the points I wanted to pull out, but I was too interested in some pickle's dream apparently. VeggieTales, man. I know every song I grew up on. Well, we'll add it to the album. When You Wish Upon a Star, a couple of VeggieTale tracks in there. That's useless.
1:40:16 Oh, no. What are you going to do? The king likes Daniel more than me and you. Okay. All right. For real now. You want to say it? Let's close with prayer. Yeah, sure. Father in heaven. Thank you for the opportunity to come on the air and to have some fellowshipping, share some lighthearted laughs about some of the ridiculousness that's out there. I'm just so grateful that we have these eyes to see the deception for what it is. And I'd like you to open the eyes of as many people as possible. All of those people who have an interest in UFOs, they're seeking after the UFOs. But I know that there are people out there who are seeking after the UFOs. There are people who are seeking after you. And I just want to pray for those people, because I know that as we near the end of time, you're calling people to yourself. And yeah, tonight, I just, I want to reach out for those people and have them have an experience with you, Lord, and not with anything creepy and harmful.
1:41:19 In Jesus's name. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much, Matthew. Hang out. We'll talk a little bit at the end for a post show that we'll post on Patreon. Folks, I cut him off. I'm Brad Burnham. This has been pure strangeness, absolute normalcy. We'll see you later. Thanks for watching this segment. Subscribe to our channel and join us every Thursday night for more daily strange topics and more. Find us on Discord by accessing patreon.com slash strange normal. See you there.