0:01 let's watch this clip it's it's two short clips we're going to cut in half and we're going to talk about what it's what it says at a key point because uh that's what's that's what's happening here here we go angela uchi who dabbled in astrology hosted a very popular astrology podcast to the moon and back and then got into all sorts of weird new agey occult things reiki manifesting crystals tarot cards all the rest of it until she realized it was all really really bad and gave it all up here with me is angela uchi now the host of the heaven and healing heaven and healing heaven and healing thank you for coming on the show thank you for having me so i was involved with occult practices for almost a full decade um you i had an extremely tragic death in my family in 2014 we touched on this briefly when we spoke my grandmother died i was on a cruise ship in the middle of the ocean when it happened and she was like my best friend in the world i grew up with a single mom did the best she could love her to death but she could only do so much um so grandma really kind of stepped in and took over with after-school care things like that so we were very very close growing up she was my everything kind of in hindsight she was my god um and when she died it was absolute tragedy for me it was the worst thing that's ever happened and once that occurred um i was desperate for any way to connect with her to talk to her again to experience her again and i didn't know any better all i knew was my pain and i know now that satan kind of capitalizes on trauma everyone i talked to that's coming out of new age doesn't have the same story as me, but often there is a pinpoint traumatic moment where they've started to go down this rabbit hole. And so I went to see a medium. I consulted a psychic medium after she passed and the medium knew things that she just really had no business knowing. It was astounding at the time. And I was, I was hooked. All right. Stop it right there just for a second. So recapping what she said, she had this traumatic experience. Someone that she really loved died. And then Satan's going to try to use that and he's going to try to manifest to her. And as she tries to contact her dead relatives, we know that's a no-no. The Bible says that's necromancy. Trying to contact something to hear more about someone else that's in the dead is taking the place of God because God wants to be the one contacted for advice. He doesn't want to be the one to be the one to be the one to be the one to be the one to be the one to be the one you going to the dead who can't hear you to uh to that and that's uh that's that's that this is uh this is her story so these next two clips are the other of the long pieces that that are interesting with the whole star seed thing that just got me obsessed with space um wanting to find my star family i would do meditations and like walk through things to try and can like connect with those beings the star the star people did you did you connect i had experiences where i felt like i saw things and um felt things like in my room they were always like blue yeah really really strange and i don't have a shape long like you like like the typical you know kind of alien that you see in sci-fi movie but like not scary like light but What do you think that was? Just a hallucination or a...
3:54 To be perfectly honest, a demon. That's my understanding of ghosts, anything of that kind of sort. You don't believe in ghosts? I don't. There's a ghost in the Bible. Is there? So when Saul goes to the witch of Endor, Saul has outlawed necromancy, all the stuff that we're talking about right now. Right. And he goes to the witch of Endor and he says, summon up a ghost. And she says, no, I can't do that. Saul outlawed it in the land. And he goes, don't worry about Saul, him being Saul. And so she does. And it's a really curious moment because she says, oh my gosh, you've deceived me, because she calls up the ghost of Samuel. And it's a very interesting moment because it seems as though the witch of Endor is actually sort of surprised by what she's done. So it raises the question, was she sort of just a fraud, like a dime store boardwalk psychic, you know, who is just selling nonsense? And then all of a sudden she conjures a ghost.
4:52 But regardless, she does conjure Samuel. And then Saul talks to Samuel. So we have at least one example of a ghost. So I don't know. A lot of times when people say they've seen a ghost, which has happened many, many times, I wonder if they're... It happened to me too when I was little. It did. Well, I wonder if they're hallucinating, if it's a demon. But I'm not totally sure there aren't ghosts too. So let's stop and talk about that for a second. He says he's not sure if there aren't ghosts too. And what he means by that is he's not sure if... These are entities that are good beings that have come back to help us and that we can be helped by them, whatever form they are. A lot of people believe that they are former dead relatives or dead friends or things like this. This is not the case. The Bible says over and over again, Ecclesiastes 9.5, the dead know nothing. Job.
5:44 Is it Job that says, you know, the dead don't come back to your house. Um, the... I believe that was Job. Yeah. And so you have all these, I mean, there's just stacks and stacks and stacks. The Bible talks about this. And you have this one little verse that says, oh, look, it's Samuel. And it says, he perceived it was Samuel. She perceived it was Samuel. And then she got all excited because she didn't realize what was going on here. This, this is because the devil can't call up God. And say, hey, you know what? I want Samuel to come back from heaven. Hey, can you just do that for me? Because I have summoned him. What part of Christianity believes that you, that the devil can have more power than Christ? That's what I want to know. And so there is absolutely no possible way that this could be the devil calling Samuel back to earth to be a spirit.
6:44 Because the devil doesn't have that type of power. And so that is only... There is only one reason why that this absolutely isn't Samuel. And it was a deception. So that's why we get the idea that this, that you can see clearly in this, in this, in this scenario. And this is the story that this is absolutely a deception of the devil. And the devil, we can perceive here, loves, he loves to do impressions. He wants to do these impressions. And he has carefully calculated. And deceived a good portion of Christianity into believing that the dead people are immediately gone to heaven and can come back as ghosts. Can you imagine if there was a deception at the end of time? And all of a sudden these things started coming back on, dare I say, ships.
7:37 And they said, I've been in heaven with these angelic beings that you've been seeing in all their ships. And I can tell you that everything you understand on the other side is light and love. And we love to... Just be there. All you have to do is just follow this thing. Do this one thing and you will be with me too. The deception from the knowledge of good and evil that comes from these things will just, just, just completely ruin this whole generation of people that truly think and truly do believe in God. And so that's, that's my greatest fear is that people won't understand this. And this is a deception. And people don't even realize is a critical, critical doctrine that we have to understand. So that's my thoughts.
8:27 What are yours? Yeah, no, it's good right now. I'm just keeping an eye on the chat here. It says, so there are people who have some different opinions on the ghost of Samuel. Some are suggesting that that was actually Samuel. Some are suggesting that it was... A demon or a metaphor, even in some cases, but yeah, my, my, my take on that is, oh, which I, what I believe is the biblical take is that, um, well, for one, your soul doesn't detach from your body. They are one of the same. When you die, your soul is dead. You are your soul, your soul is you and dead means dead. That doesn't mean that you become made into a higher state. And that's what the modern teaching of death becoming a departed soul or spirit is.
9:25 It's this concept that you become higher, you know, but the Bible doesn't teach that when you die, you become lower, you're reduced. Sin leads to death, unless you are a Christian, in which case in the resurrection, you're raised from the dead. Now, if your soul was somewhere else, your body need not have been raised, but the whole point of your body being reconstructed on a molecular level. And perfected, um, beyond our imagination. I mean, it's going to be amazing. You know, that's what the Bible teaches that we have to have new bodies. If we could just exist as souls without the physical aspect, then, um, you know, I think God would have skipped that altogether. Right. We would have never been, um, flesh to begin with. We will never have a new body. There's no need. Cause you don't, you don't need to die, go to heaven. And then. And then be put back inside a new body. It doesn't, it's just, it's a redundant step. You know, you can just eliminate that altogether.
10:26 When you die, you are dead. And that's a big issue with, it really comes down to if we accept the authority of the Bible authority of, of God. When he says that the soul that sin shall die, it means you're dead. When he says that the day that you eat thereof, you shall surely die. It means you're dead, but we have this rebellious nature and a lot of false. Doctrine and errors that have been handed down to us through paganism that says like, well, you know, when you die, you don't really die. You just become as gods, right? Like that's what happens when you die. And that's the original lie that starts in the garden is that, yeah, you become this higher state when you die. So don't worry about dying. You're just going to become something better. Yeah. Genesis three is very dangerous.
11:12 Genesis three. So exactly. So it said that Eve did God say that you should not eat of this fruit. You will not die. You will become as God knowing good and evil. Oh, and bear with me for those of you. Yeah. And for those of you who are hearing this for the first time, sorry, Brad, there was a little delay. I didn't know you were finished, but for those who are hearing this for the first time, or maybe it's like, Aaron, what are you talking about? Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, this is crazy. You know, no, no, no, totally. You can become a ghost. Um, you have to take the concept of death and its entire context. And you also have to understand that the entire. Pagan and heathen framework relies on the fact or relies on this concept. So it's not a fact relies on this concept that the human being is flesh and a soul.
12:07 And that when you die, you can live on and become something else. I mean, the aliens teach this, uh, so-called aliens, the, all the heathen religions. I mean, it's, it's very uniquely Christian. And very counter. Worldly to teach that when you die, because of sin, you are dead. And that is the glory and the power of Christ to raise us from the dead. And now if we are just raised without Christ, if we're inherently immortal, we don't need the resurrection. Right? So, so you're the entire, you know, ministry of your channel brings so much clarity to the truth about the state of the dead. And most people say like, oh, this. Is just an alien YouTube channel. No, it's much more than that. We are bringing a reformation on this channel. To this concept of what the human being is, who the angels are, who God is. Cause those waters have been muddied, but I'll get the microphone back to you.
13:08 No, you're a hundred percent correct. The waters have been muddied and it's really messed a lot of things up. I'm going to load a video up here real quick if you're confused or if you're searching for an understanding of what this is. And you've never heard this concept before. Maybe you've heard it preached as if it's heresy. I want you, I encourage you to go take a look at my video on this channel called the number one deadly belief that will destroy Christians. That's what it's called. You need to go check that video out. It's we did a whole video on that, uh, dramatized. I mean, it's, it's, it's not just us talking back and forth. This is a, this is a, a video doc, mini documentary doc, you drama doc, you documentary, more documentary style. And it really goes into the detail behind this. Because it's, it's a very important topic. That's going to be used by the devil at the very end. This is not just, you know, a topic like the Pharisees would go to Christ and say, Hey, so tell me if this is true or that is true.
14:02 And Christ was like, this doesn't even make, this doesn't matter. This is something that matters. This is a, this is a teaching of the Bible that really will mess with Christians at the end. So it's, it's a, it's not just one of those things that the theologians need to argue about. This is something that everyone needs to understand. So go to. Uh, on my channel, the number one pound sign one hashtag, if you're of the, uh, younger generation, hashtag one deadly belief that will destroy Christians. Check it out. Really good, really good video. Let's continue on and what she says, unless you have something else you want to bring up. Nope. That was it. Okay. Here it is. Yeah. It's not a hill I'll die on, but, um, Because then you might become a ghost. Fair. I just.
14:49 With it. Alien thing specifically. I think that's the demonic kind of realm that we shouldn't really have any business playing with. And I mean, the Bible says the first that sticks out to me most coming out of new age is that Satan himself disguises as an angel of light. Yes. And that was always what I thought was coming to me. That was my spirit guides. That was my star family. That was my grandmother. You know, it's actually interesting because I had something attached to me for the. Past since she died in 2014 that because I would call on it, I would say, please come, please come, please come like hug me like I would let like I would feel hugs. I would feel I would feel something near me and, um, after my conversion, if you will, I felt it. I was in the kitchen by myself and I felt it come up next to me and I said out loud, I said, God, whatever this is, that's been posing as grandma for the past seven years in Jesus's name, get it away from me.
15:49 And never let it come back. And it hasn't been back since. So, wow, you said you saw something like a ghost when you were a kid. When I was, was that the thing that you know, I saw when I was a kid, what I thought was my great grandpa. So it was very, very young at the time. And then I kind of that really spooked me. So I would kind of like block that out. But I always grew up with this interest in the paranormal. So there's something there. To I always sought out scary movies for some reason. Now, I kind of want no parts of them. Like, why would I entertain it even? Yeah, but I always sought out scary movies and like was so big on haunted houses, like wanting those thrills. And I and when I reflect on that, I wonder what that was. Why was I so interested in terrifying myself? Essentially, why were you so interested in terrifying yourself?
16:43 You know, something she said at the beginning there, Aaron, was that she quotes the Bible and says that. Satan manifests as an angel of light, she says, that's always what my spirit guides would come around as a light being. And she said that these aliens, these things will present themselves as as a luminance character, as she said that in the other the other video. And so it's it is interesting that you have all these these beings presenting themselves and they all look very luminescent. What? Why? Why? You got to wonder if that's the same character. Now, I don't believe they can always manifest themselves that way. But it's it's interesting that we gravitate like moths, moths, moths, moths towards light and like anything that's lit up must be must be good.
17:36 No, no, that's not the case at all. So we we should be very careful about any beings that are a let the Bible says test the spirits if they speak not according to the Bible, according to the word of God. Then there is no light in them, zero light. So there's the there's the the balance there. What do you think? Yeah, that's a really good point, you know, that we look at the stars, we assume nothing but benevolence. And I think that if you look at anything on Earth, that does not seem to be the case, whether man or beast, there are both malevolent and benevolent forces at work in our. Cosmology, and I would assume that the thing that's right above our head fits into that. And so it's naive to think that, oh, you know, we look up and it's just pure, you know, bliss and anything that comes down from there is also well intended.
18:37 I don't think that's the case. In this interview, I think he was like, why haven't you joined Catholicism yet or something like that? And she's like, because I studied that. I don't believe that's where I see it. Yeah, at some point he did try to shield Catholicism. That's Michael Knowles from from Daily Wire. But at some point, yeah, he was trying to shield Catholicism. And I was when I was listening to this, I was like, you go, girl, like you were able to, you know, on somebody else's podcast, you didn't cave to being, you know, brought over to something that, you know. Yeah, so something that you just don't align with, you know, and I'm glad that she was able to kind of withstand and even her being such a new Christian. Right. I suspect. I could be wrong. I suspect that maybe she's found some in her searching and seeking and exposing darkness.
19:25 She's probably found some ties with the Roman Catholicism and the Vatican and stuff, not saying that Catholics are all evil or anything, but she's probably found some useful information about the truth of that church state system. Right. Thanks for watching this segment. Subscribe to our channel and join us every Thursday night for more daily strange topics. Find us on Discord by accessing patreon.com slash strange normal. See you there.