0:00 Satan doesn't usually create new ideas. He just counterfeits, right? And so his idea is he's counterfeiting people from fallen, unfallen worlds. In the Civil War, there's many stories of generals who say that they had dead soldiers come back to them or angels fighting for them on the battlefield. Them coming here to help us is what caused Satan to say, whoa, the other worlds are here? Let me counterfeit that. Do you think that this sets up Adventists to be more deceived than the rest of Christianity? I mean, this is a heavy question. Noamico is an ex-Hollywood actor that is a Seventh-day Adventist. He became very interested in what is happening with this strange phenomenon that the news keeps reporting is in the skies of the military called UAPs. Tonight, we're going to talk with Noamico about this a little bit and get to know what Adventists believe about this strange phenomenon.
1:25 Full disclosure. I am a Seventh-day Adventist as well. But some things Noamico says tonight surprised me. And as usual, this is where we start studying and learning a little bit further about what the Bible says about this and what different writings from different religions talk about. This is part of a series we're doing on different religions, primarily focused on how that religion will be either deceived or play into the final deception. As we find subject matter experts, we will produce more and more videos on that specific religion. Thank you, Noamico, for coming and doing this presentation. I think it's a fascinating topic you're going to present to us tonight. Tell us a little bit about yourself before you do. You work for a ministry or you have a ministry that you've started. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yes, that's correct.
2:18 Thanks so much for having me, Brad. It's great to be on. I'm definitely a person that appreciates the strange normal. So, I have been doing this for a long time. I have a ministry that I started and founded many years ago. It's called Certain Sound Media. And the big thing that we do is produce documentaries, promotional videos, and music. So, just using the media to create stuff that's going to promote the gospel, that's going to promote positivity, promote other churches as well. And so, I kind of have it as a business tree. It's a blend of business and my ministry as well. And it's also a preaching ministry as well. So, I've been running that for like 12 years. But I'm kind of shifting more into like a full-time version of it right now. We have a lot of really awesome projects like a creation film that we want to work on as well as making The Conflict of Ages in a fully 3D animated film and releasing that in theaters.
3:16 That's been the big dream for a couple of years. And we actually have made Segway. We actually have the company ready to do it just to raise the funds. Tell us your background. Where did you come from and what are you doing this for now? Sure. So, I was kind of raised as a Christian. And I just really wanted kind of the message that I had been exposed to as a kid to kind of reach the world. And so, I thought the best way to do that, I was raised around the Adventist faith. But my parents said I could go be anything. And I did do comparative religion in high school. I was like looked into Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Methodism. All the different isms. And I thought, you know what? If I want to promote this thing because it seems to make the most sense, I need to become like an actor. So, I literally got into acting.
4:04 Started doing movies and television. And like, yeah, long crazy story. Yeah, I was doing stuff for Hollywood and Canadian and international productions. And I did that for about five years. And then God is like, I need you to lead the industry. And actually, some crazy spiritual things happened. I won't get into that now. But after that. After I left the industry, it was like the great controversy started becoming really real to me. What we described about today. It became much more real. And I became much more aware of this push between good and evil that's unseen. And so, I started to start my ministry, Certain Sound Media, to basically help bring this alive to people. To basically help heal back all the layers that are hidden from us so that people could really be in touch with the spiritual side. Because that's what I see. Most people are not.
4:52 They're just kind of really disconnected. And I think my ancestry, my experience in the entertainment industry and some of those other things. And then just like my gift, I guess, would be my creativity. All of those things combined. And most importantly, the Holy Spirit is what allows me to kind of convey things in a way where people can kind of see behind the curtain. It helps people see the other side and the reality that's there that they're just not in touch with because they can't touch it or see it. So, that's it. So, that's the big thing. We're working on music. We're going to be doing a big launch, Certain Sound Media, on the YouTube channel. We're going to be putting out a really cool video very soon to relaunch the ministry, starting a Patreon and stuff like that. So, look out for it soon. You're very humble. You got into acting. You have your own IMDB page, sir. You're not just… I was acting in high school. Yeah. Well, the weird thing is like so the Wikipedia page, those are like even more…
5:47 I don't know who created the Wikipedia page with me. And like I was like, who's editing that? I've never once edited that thing or created it. So, like that's totally like after I had gotten certain jobs in a couple leading roles and stuff like that. So, I'm just kind of like, okay, I have no idea who's doing that. Wow. Very good. So, I guess today the thought that came to my mind to just have a conversation about and really a conversation, you know, because it's two-way is the idea of the other side. And I mean, I put the slide up here and so somebody might ask the question like, what is the other side or this veil or this curtain? So, there's this story that takes place in the Bible and it's in 2 Kings 6, verses 15 to 17.
6:40 You see something really cool take place. It says, And when the servant of the man of God was risen early and gone forth. Behold, an host came past the city, both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master, how shall we do? What I wanted to talk about and have the conversation on today was discussing something that is not typically discussed. And that's the other side, the spiritual unseen world. Many of us are Christians and, you know, we kind of read the Bible. And our imagination is kind of what's going on. Our imagination is kind of what informs us about what's going on that we can't see. But there's so much more that we don't really realize because we're just kind of imagining it. And sometimes we're not reading between the lines and looking at all the details to really get a sense of what's going on in the unseen world.
7:34 So, we're looking behind the scene as opposed to behind the scenes from typical movies. We're looking behind the scene to kind of understand a little bit more what's going on in the unseen world. Because it's going to have huge implications. Because it's going to have huge implications in the near future, I believe. So, I titled like this discussion, The Other Side. And, you know, another way to phrase it is like on the other side of the veil or the curtain. Right? And where do I get that idea? Well, there's a story in the Bible in 2 Kings 6, verses 15 to 17. And it says there that there's this guy named... He's at Gehazi and he's there with his master or the prophet Elijah.
8:20 And he basically goes out and he sees that they're surrounded by mountains. And I'll just read what it says there. It says, And when the servant of the man of God was risen early and gone forth, behold, an host came past the city, both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master, how shall we do? Because we're surrounded by this huge army. And he answered, Fear not. For they that be with us are more than they that be with them. And Elisha prayed and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw. And behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha. So that is a really, really powerful story that kind of encapsulates the idea. But Ellen White goes a little bit further to give some more detail on that type of occurrence happening.
9:12 So here's another statement. And she says here, Sometimes the heavenly intelligences draw aside the curtain which hides the unseen world that our thoughts may be withdrawn from the hurry and rush of life to consider that there are unseen witnesses to all we do or say. And sometimes we need that, right? Sometimes we need a little bit of a reminder that, hey, life is not just this layer that we see, you know. In fact, scientists tell us that. We actually only see a small portion of the visible spectrum. We see from about 400 nanometers to 700 nanometers, right, is the visible color spectrum. But then lower than that and high above that, ultraviolet and infrared, there's so many more bands of light. And we, our eyes just can't see those bands of light.
10:05 But there's so much more going on in those bands of light. Insects can actually see much of those other bands of light. And so what I think is going on. What I think is going on is that the angels, they just exist in those other bands of light. They are able to step out of the 400 to 700 nanometers and they exist in that other space. They're not in another dimension. I've heard people say angels are in another dimension. And like there's this CERN device that might pull them out of. And it's like, no, no, dude, they're already here. They're like already here. There's like stories of where people see stuff in their house moving. And they're like, what's going on? Like a boot will fly from one end of the house to the other. And they're like, how in the world did that happen? It's not because angels are in another dimension. They're already here. We just can't see them. That's a good point. I never thought about that because, I mean, I've heard people say that over and over again, even in Christianity.
10:56 I mean, people say, oh, well, they're in, they've gone to another dimension. But I can't find in the Bible proof of another dimension. I mean, you know what I mean? I can't find where there's, I see where there has been. I think in the New Testament. In the New Testament where someone teleported, I guess, from one point to another. Or they don't remember where they were and they went from one section to another. But that's not proof of another dimension. And so someone correct me in the comments if you see. Maybe we're wrong. But I think absolutely that you're 100% right. It's probably more aligned with light spectrum and just not being able to be visible. That's fascinating. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's so many stories that we can use for examples. But it's just that angels just operate in a different spectrum.
11:43 And that's why she says, like, could our eyes be opened or can the veil be lifted? It's just, it's a very simple change. It doesn't need, you know, what is it, the proton accelerator that's over there in Switzerland. You don't need that to pull demons out. You know what I mean? Demons are there, but we're just protected by God. And that's something we're going to go into in a second. But to kind of lay a foundation. It's just funny. Because I grew up in Canada. I'm Canadian and grew up in Montreal. But my ancestry is Caribbean. And so that's one of the things that, like, prepares you for an understanding of the spiritual world, I think, better than typical North American culture does. And why I say that is, like, for Caribbean kids, like, Halloween is not a holiday to be celebrated.
12:31 Like, most Caribbean kids are like, yeah, I'm not celebrating the devil's holiday, you know. And, like, horror movies. Like, I still don't get horror movies. Because I'm like, why would you pay money to be scared about, like, spirituality that's actually real? Like, I don't get that. Like, what's going on there, right? And so part of the reason why is because you grow up with your grandparents from the Caribbean telling you about stories of, like, spiritual things happening. And it's, like, very real to them. They tell you, like, these harrowing stories. Like, my grandmother told me a story about, like, there was this crazy stretch of land where there was no streetlights when they grew up. And, like, they knew that some sort of spiritualism was going on in that area. And literally one time they said they saw something that was, like, super tall.
13:22 It was, like, 12 feet tall. And it was throwing boulders at them as they were sprinting home. Like, boulders were knocking down. Yeah, yeah. Like, this is in Jamaica. So, like, crazy stuff like that. And, like, they're running home and they're screaming. And then the dad hears and he goes outside. And then he starts, like, yelling rebukes, like, you know, like Christian rebukes, like, in the name of Jesus, I rebuke you. Like, to whatever it is because he hears something in the bushes and he sees something coming out but literally, like, some crazy tall being. Like, so what we experience in North America is kind of not the norm for the rest of the world, which is interesting. And there's studies that actually show that there's a correlation between. Spirituality and wealth. Right? And it makes sense because the more affluence you have, the more money that there is, the less you feel the need for God or for prayer.
14:16 Right? And so you just think, well, like, that's why God says, he literally says, either you serve God or you serve mammon. You either serve the real God or this fake God, which is money. Like, you feel like I don't need anything. Right? And so. But. But the reality is, the spiritual world is definitely here, definitely real, but it seems to be a bit more veiled in the North American culture because it works better for the dark side, unfortunately. They feel like, well, we can hide ourselves and deceive people into thinking, yeah, there's no God. Yeah, there's no controversy for your soul. And it just serves their purposes. That's interesting. You should use that word veiled. I think the Bible uses that word. And it makes more sense than. Yeah. Than, than, uh, uh, uh, than, uh, than, uh, than, uh, uh, than, uh, than, uh, uh, than, uh, than, uh, than, uh, than, uh, uh, than, uh, than, uh, than, uh, than, uh, than a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, I would. I can use that.
15:06 So fascinating. Interesting. Yeah. I'm gonna have to look that up a little bit further. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and, and so, and so, like, I guess the next thing we can go into is kind of like, why then does God not show us more, um, in general, what's the purpose of kind of like the, the veil being there in the veil, um, being hidden from us? Yeah. Yeah. does God not show us more in general? What's the purpose of the veil being there and the veil being hidden from us? And I'm going to bring up some statements here that might help us get some insight into that. So why doesn't God let us see behind the veil more often? Here's another quote that kind of describes what's going on. It says, could our spiritual vision be opened? We should see that there, we should see that which would never be effaced from the memory as long as life should last. We should see souls bowed down under oppression, loaded with grief and pressed down as a cart beneath the sheaves and ready to die in discouragement. We should see angels flying swiftly to aid the tempted ones who stand on the brink of a precipice. These tempted souls are unable to help themselves and avoid the ruin which threatens them. But the angels of God are forcing back the evil angels and guiding the souls to the right path. And we should see that there, we should away from the dangerous places to plant their feet on a sure foundation. We should see battles going on between the two armies as real as those fought by opposing forces on earth. Exactly, right? So that's how real their war is. Here's one other statement. It says, we do not understand as we should the great conflict going on between invisible agencies, the controversy between loyal and disloyal angels. Over every man, good and evil angels strive. This is no make-believe conflict. It is not made-believe. It is not made-believe. It is not made-believe. It is not mimic battles in which we are engaged. We have to meet the most powerful adversaries and it rests with us. Can you read that last part? And it rests with us to determine which shall win. Right. And so unfortunately, we have this kind of mentality like from the Flintstones and some of that other stuff that like there's these little angels on our shoulder and they're like, hey, you should do good. Hey, you should do bad. Like, and that's kind of the extent of the conflict. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't understand.
17:09 If you want to go buy some milk, the devil's like, can I destroy him on this trip? Can I like make a spark, hit his gas can and blow up his car so that he could die? Like, like that's how intense it is. And if we could see that stuff, it's literally like a war. And so when you think about why God hides that from us, like, could you imagine like, okay, going to go for some milk and you open the door and you see like angels fighting with flaming swords and you're like, you know what? Maybe I'm not going to go for milk. Maybe I'm just going to go. I'm going to go under my bed and like pray for the rest of my life. Like, you know what I'm saying? We probably would be traumatized if like we were constantly exposed to the reality of the spiritual world. So God just kind of keeps us mostly hidden, gives us the information and says operate in, in the real for, for the most part, so that you don't get traumatized by what's going on in the unseen world, because it's really, really intense. Have you, um, there's a guy named Forerunner. He runs a channel Forerunner777. His name is Chris. Chris Hudson. Chris Hudson. Yeah, that's right. I had him on the channel once. He, he, um, he did a video about 10 years ago about him and his friends that were out and they actually saw.
18:20 Did you see this video? I might insert it in here. It's, it's wild. Some, some spiritualism that he actually saw physically. I mean, all of a sudden they were praying and this angel, this bright thing came down and, and wham. And, and this, they saw the spiritual battle happen right in front of them. They said, we have never seen anything like this happen before. I'll insert it right here if I can find it. But anyway, continue going on. It's, it's pretty wild. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's, I'd have the same face if, if, if you were telling me this story because it's, it, it was too weird, but it just flow with it. Cause it's actually a pretty amazing story. No, that's cool. That's totally cool. Like, here's the crazy thing. I could tell you equally wild stories. Like a few weeks ago, I was just preaching at a church and like the pastor was just telling me, he's like, man, he's like, you use a lot of illustrations about your own life in your sermons. He's like, I don't do that. And he's like, I need to, I need to maybe incorporate that. Cause it's so powerful when it's not just the word, but it's also life. And I'm like, I'm thinking, you know, that's, that's actually how we're supposed to overcome in revelation. It says by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony. So it's like what Jesus did, but what his light, what his blood did for you being applied, you know, those are the two ways that we're going to overcome. And so he started sharing like his dad or his grandfather was like this big sorcerer in the Caribbean. And like, he would have weird things happening around his house. He literally said, he got to the point where I had to get up and like walk out the room. He literally said, he's like at every single night I would go on the balcony and lay down to look at the stars because I knew that something would pick me up and carry me back to my bed. And he said, literally something, not his parents, something would literally come.
20:07 And pick him up and carry him back to his bed. And he said, one time he said, it wasn't the being, he said, it was like bats. A bunch of bats came and then picked him up and carried him back to his bed. And then, and then he's like, he's like, and then this is the fun. This part was the funniest. He's like, I used to glide. I was like, what? And so like in Caribbean, they use English, but it's kind of like a blend of like broken English and British English. Right. And he's like, I used to glide. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, I also could. Basically like lean forward off the balcony and then I can float forward and backwards like laid out. And I'm like, how old are you? He's like eight or nine years old. And I can just do this. And my parents wouldn't see. And then he's like, I would do it all the time. And then he said, one time I tried to do it backwards. He tried to, he basically tried to do the backstroke in midair. And then he said, as soon as he went backwards, it stopped working. And then he literally dropped and he bumped his head and he had a huge gash. And he turned around and showed me the gash. Like in his head. And so I was like, this is insane. Right. So, so in, in that instance, so was his name Peter Pan? Yeah, right. Exactly. I'm like, you're the Peter Pan pastor. Literally. I saw, I was going to say to him, I was like, dude, you're like the Peter Pan pastor. But I was like that limitation about the backstroke. You need to work on your backstroke. But no, the funny part was that I was like, because his, his, his home was so saturated in spiritualism that had been like, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't normalize for him as a kid. Right. And like he was tapping into that, not knowing that it was the dark side. Right. And it just, it just should tell you about when you have a Christian household, when you raise your kids in the fear of the Lord, just by them being around that they're being steeped and immersed and, and marinated in good spirituality.
21:58 There are angels in your home that are bringing your kids closer to God just by the fact that you're a Christian yourself, you know? So that's something that should be super encouraging to people. Um, so yeah, so he shared that and I was just like, yeah, there's, there's, there's a whole spiritual layer to this life that we don't typically see and live in North America. Cause it's just like, Hey, make money, survive, get a girlfriend, get a wife, you know, like the day-to-day things are, are totally absorbing our attention. But God is like, you know, sometimes I kind of need you to think about eternity. Cause like, that's the longer distance journey. Like there's going to be a point where every single person in this universe is going to want salvation. Whether you want it right now or not, there's coming a moment where everyone's going to realize its value. And I need you to wake up to that. Like, because everything that you you're, you're chasing after in this life, it's all going to burn up, you know? But, but salvation is the most important thing. So, so Jesus is trying to get our focus shifted there.
22:58 Um, so let me share a couple of more statements and then we'll, we'll just continue wrapping here. Um, so it says here, but if the curtain could be rolled back and eyes now blinded, blind to the invisible agencies could view with restored spiritual vision the conflict continually going on in behalf of souls perishing away from Christ. What a difference would be made in the working of the agencies in this world. Decided advanced movements would be made. Without delay, their entire influence for good would be thrown on the side of Christ. They would behold intense interest of angels of God in behalf of souls who are throwing away the opportunities and privileges now so valuable to them to obtain an experimental knowledge of God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent. Right? This is another one showing the other side. If our eyes could be open to discern the fallen angels at work with those who feel at ease and consider themselves safe, we would not feel so secure. Evil angels are upon our track at every moment. We expect a readiness on the part of bad men to act as Satan suggests. But while our minds are unguarded against his invitation, visible agents, they assume new ground and work marvels and miracles in our sight. Are we prepared to resist them by the word of God, the only weapon we can use successfully? Now, it's important to understand you need to frame the spiritual world in the right context because it's easy like as we share some of these stories, it's easy to kind of get caught up and drawn away like, wow, the dark side is so powerful. You know, like they seem so mighty and a lot of people are getting into like spiritualism in this day and age because they're like, man, I can have power. I can like cast a spell for somebody to fall in love with me or to make more money and to do all these different things. But you need to see it from the biblical perspective, like where the balance of power actually is. So I'm going to share a couple more statements and then we're going to continue going here. So what is the balance of power in the unseen world? This was powerful to me. It says, Jesus knew that angels were witnessing the scene of his humiliation when he was on the cross. And then she says this, the weakest angel, the weakest angel could have caused that mocking throng to fall powerless and could have delivered Jesus. Okay.
25:14 So literally like all the priests and the soldiers, she says that the weakest angel could have probably just sneezed and then like everybody was done. You know what I mean? Like that's the amount of power that God's good angels have. But not only that, check this out. I found this really crazy statement that describes what Satan was thinking. And it says here above the roar of the tempest was heard the wailing of a people that had despised the authority of God. Satan himself, who was compelled to remain in the midst of the warring elements, feared for his own existence. So this is the most powerful angel right after Christ. He's literally like in the flood. Like it says that the devils believe in trouble. Well, like, like, and, and, and there's something that, you know, a thought hit my mind this morning as we, as kind of throwing these slides together, the judgments that you see taking place in the world right now, it, this is all Satan causing them. The earthquakes, the fires, the floods, that's, that's Satan causing that stuff because God literally is withdrawing his protection because people don't want his protection.
26:27 If you reject God, you're also rejecting his protection. So these people are like, we want to live how we want to live. We just want to do it this way. Get away from us, God. Like let's live this progressive lifestyle that everybody wants to live. And so God's like, okay, I want to protect you though. And they're like, just get away, God. So he's like, okay. And what happens is Satan comes in and then he causes the destruction that you're seeing, the destruction that you're seeing mostly in the world, the fires, the floods, et cetera. But in the seven last plagues and the flood are different in that those judgments were caused by God. They were actually God's angels doing them. So it's an entirely different thing from what we see happening every day. And now like, like these judgments are bad, but when the flood happened, even Satan was like, oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh my goodness. Like I'm scared. Right. And so that's just some perspective to let you understand how powerful God is and how powerful his agencies are. Just a second. Just a second. Let me look something up. I want to make sure I'm double checking your status. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, man. Triple check it. Triple. I have one more and then we can, and then I'll get off. I want to put your, let's get you back on the screen so we can just chat a bit. Can I share one more statement while you're looking that up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Go for it. Okay. So there's one other statement here that I thought was relevant. So after the war in heaven, angel and Satan's angels, they get kicked out of heaven. Right. And we know that the third that was defected to Satan, they get kicked out by the two thirds of Jesus in heaven. So, so interesting statement about that.
28:01 Notice this. It says, it says these angels, after they got kicked out, they were planning. They're like, man, we got to get Adam and Eve so we can take over the garden. And this is what they were thinking. It says, and if they could gain access to the tree of life in the midst of the garden, their strength would, they thought be equal to that of the holy angels. And even God himself could not expel them. So the evil angels literally were hoping, okay, if we defeat, if we cause Adam and Eve to fall, we can basically get access to the tree of life and then we can eat that fruit. And then we'll be powerful enough to go back and win the war that we just lost. Right. Like, isn't that, yeah, you're just like, what? So it makes, it makes the great controversy like this amazing, like, almost like a fictional story, right? You're like, what, this is like Lord of the Rings or something. And literally it is, it's just that you and I can't see it like that. We just can't see it like that, but it's a lot deeper than we realized. Like, and it's very physical. Like a lot of, I've heard people say that, uh, because the Greek word for war there in, in, in, uh, revelation is polemos that it means, oh, it's just polemics. They were arguing. They did argue, but there was an actual fight. There was an actual war where strength was involved. And they literally thought, man, if we get access to the tree of life, we can actually fight and be as strong as God's angels because God's angels are that much more stronger. Wow. Wow. This, this is a really a physical, a physical thing. I mean, we've talked about that on the channel before, but I mean, that just gives more legitimacy to it. Wow. This is actually a, a real thing that's, I mean, man, I say it out of my mouth because I, and it sounds like I'm, I'm just becoming a Christian. You know what I mean? But I mean, it's, it's a new realization that it's like, whoa, wait a second here. This isn't just some ethereal thing that's happening in, in different protons are hitting each other. This is, this is a battle of minds and entities and physical powers, uh, of darkness. So I think that's fascinating.
30:04 Yes. And we need that. We need to know that because the Bible says in Psalms, I think it's 37 verse four or 34 verse seven, uh, 37 verse four, I think that angels encamp around about them that fear him. Right. So there's literally an angel assigned to guard everyone for their entire life. That angel is really good at what they do. They are really powerful and really good at what they do. Now, granted bad things do happen. Yes. You know, and God typically, um, he's always working for our good at the end of the day. Right. But we need to understand just how powerful are the forces that have been spent to save us and to, to, to, to, to, to protect us, not just physically, but spiritually. Like most people worry about in this life, physical protection, which is important, but the more that the greater thing that angels are invested is your spiritual protection. They literally want to make sure that your eternal life is saved because why would you, why would they just want to protect your, your physical life and then you you'd be lost for eternity when it's like no let's protect both the main thing is is the long-term game because heaven is much is excuse me eternity is worth much more than the present so that's their focus i i think i found a statement um and tell me if this this is um uh contrary because i don't maybe i didn't understand what you were saying correctly but this is this was an impactful statement so i saved it it says um satan um it says this it's in last day events page 242.1 let's see i was shown that the judgments of god would not come directly out from the lord upon them but in this way they place themselves beyond his protection he warns corrects reproves and points out the only path of safety then those who have been objects of his special care will follow their own course independent of the spirit of god after repeated warnings if they choose their own way he does not commission his angels to prevent satan's decided attacks against them um i believe this is talking about the last the last plagues i gotta go back and look at that to be absolutely sure but so so okay so thank you for that thank you for sharing that that's a great great point so she actually does say and that's kind of what i'm alluding to with the judgments that we currently see but um the the difference is that in in revelation 16 you see that the there's the seven angels and they're the ones that are given the vials and they come from the sanctuary so it's not um satan's angels right it's god's angels who are giving these vials and then god's angels pour out these vials and actually god's angels are the ones that go around protecting everybody by putting the seal on them before these vials are poured out why and so actually that's your biggest hint your biggest hint right there is ellen white says that satan can't see the seal he doesn't know that there's a seal right um he doesn't know he he he There's a statement where she says he infers that their sins are forgiven, but he doesn't not know that their cases are decided in heaven.
33:03 So he can't see the seal. The seal is for God's good angels to know, okay, don't let that person go down because they're the ones who are actually dishing out that final judgment. That's what's crazy about it. The seven last plagues are specifically only for the people who receive the mark of the beast. And so therefore it's not Satan's angels. This is God's, like the one time where God is like, it comes out without mercy. It says it, that's why it says it's his wrath without mercy, because he's like, really, I have to make this statement at the end here because of what everything that it built up to it, which is a whole other conversation. But the judgments that are falling now, I believe she's in, you read the statement that you just read. She says judgments and that's the stuff that's happening now. But when the seven last plagues actually take place, I have another statement that I just read this morning where she says the same forces, which are enforced now for Satan, she says, God's forces are about to release judgment in the seven last plagues.
34:00 And it makes it really, really clear. Send that to me. Yeah. Cause this is a study I haven't, I haven't. Wow. Yeah. Cause I haven't quite figured this all out yet. And, and, and, uh, wow, that's, that's, that makes a whole not a sense. I mean, you're right in the Bible. It's, it's God's angels pointing out the vials. So it would make sense that this is God's judgments. Fascinating. Fascinating. Yeah. Let's continue. Yeah. No, but listen, and I have no bones about being corrected on something. So please, you know, whatever thoughts, keep them flowing. This is, I love having this conversation. It's very rare that we get a chance to talk about deep spiritual things. So if you have something, a point that, you know, corrects me, I'm, I'm well, willing to receive it. So just jump in at any time. Um, so, so, so here's this, this last little bit that I want to look at because, um, the spiritual kind of veil that's over everything is about to kind of be lifted in a major way. Uh, everybody's going to kind of be exposed.
34:51 Now the challenge with, uh, having spiritual insight is that you, then become spiritually responsible, right? Like if, if God shows you great things, then it kind of means that now he's expecting great results from those great things, right? Like according, according to the light that you, you've been exposed to. So, so check this out. Um, is the veil about to be lifted in public much more? Here's a statement by Ellen White. She says, as we near the close of time, there will be greater and still greater external parade of heathen power. Heathen. Deities will manifest their signal power and will exhibit themselves before the cities of the world and this delineation has already begun to be fulfilled. She wrote that in 1903, she's literally saying that these fallen angels are going to pretend to be like heathen deities and powers that we don't understand that are from, you know, uh, the other side of the spiritual world or far away from this planet and funnily enough, she said that in 1903.
35:55 And I have an article here, which shows you that this was taking place all the way back then in the Stockton Evening Mail, there was the story of, uh, Colonel, uh, Shaw. He basically was riding a horse and he saw a UFO ship crash and three strange creatures literally tried to abduct him while he's riding on his horse. His source stopped moving. Yeah, it's crazy. He, and he said to the ship was like 125 feet long and then like, they tried to grab him and they had this weapon. Weird clothing. And he's like, no, I don't want to go. And then they're like, okay, fine. Then they jumped in their ship and this, this thing just took off and flew. And this is like in 1896. So like that stuff has literally already been happening since that time. But now it's going to happen even more as we come to the very, very final stretches. Things are going to be start to start to be shown in a very supernatural way. Part of the reason for this is so that all the people who are atheists and, you know, like science versus science only, um, their eyes are basically going to deceive them.
36:55 It's. It's, it's, it's for the purpose of everybody who's like, uh, seeing is believing. Well, Satan's like, yeah, great. Seeing is believing, believe this, you know, and he's going to get them to, to, to swallow his Kool-Aid hook line and sinker. And so, so the danger is there is, there is, uh, an awareness that we need to, to, to have of the reality of what's taking place in our minds so strongly. So that when we see these deceptions, what is still in our minds is the truth. It's like, yeah, we were waiting for you guys. You guys are on cue. Your fate, we know who you are, you understand, and we can be that anchor for other people when they're just kind of like, I'm not understanding what's going on. Um, but okay, but now here's the good news. There's, there's even more going on for us than we realize because typically Satan is usually doing counterfeits, right? Satan has a counterfeit Sabbath, right?
37:53 Uh, he has a counterfeit health message. He has a counterfeit. Almost everything. That God has, he has a counterfeit, right? That's a whole other talk by itself, but I believe that what you see him doing there is a counterfeit of something else based on a statement. I want to share with you, right? Because Ellen White tells us that there are unfallen worlds. Okay. And she says the angels and the holy inhabitants of other worlds watch with intense interest, the events taking place on this earth. Right? So we see that there are angels and then there's also the inhabitants of other worlds, right? And they're not, they're not. The same thing. That's like apples and oranges. Okay. Another statement. She says, though, the plan of salvation through the pen of salvation, we see mercy and truth met together, righteousness and peace of bracing each other. There is no vacillation in the principles of God's commandments, but they are pronounced by one, the angels of heaven and two by the inhabitants of unfallen worlds and by soul justified as holy, just, and good.
38:50 So this is when people get to heaven, that the angels in heaven and the inhabitants of unfallen worlds are going to like acknowledge, Hey, they're holy. Just in good. When they make it to heaven. Now here's, here's the bombshell statement. This was the most surprising statement I've ever read in the spirit of prophecy. And I only found it like less than a year ago. Okay. Wait, wait, I'm going to, oh man. All right. All right. I'm going to cut that out just for a second so we can play that in just a second. But, but, um, I want to, I want to stop you for just a second. I'm going to, I want to, uh, legitimize this because this is a heavy topic among non, uh, among, among, uh, Christians, lots of Christians, uh, uh, for. For some reason, it's not a salvation issue at all, but there's very much, lots of contention behind the idea that God created more than, uh, just this world and angels. Right. And I, I think that's, that's fascinating. And I, I, I have to say there are reasons behind it.
39:45 I a hundred percent agree with, they say that there's not a lot of information in the Bible that pertains to, um, uh, and the Bible is our only source. Uh, we have some. Commentary that we think is fascinating, but, uh, I think it's fascinating that, uh, there's not a lot of Bible about in the Bible about these different, different fun, fallen worlds, but there is some, and I think that's, that's worth bringing up before we get into this last final quote. Do you know some of those things I'm talking about? Some people may ask the question, like what biblical evidence is there for the idea that there are unfallen worlds, right? Um, like what evidence is, is, is there, because yeah, there's UFOs and aliens. And like. We kind of already know that those are like, not the good side, but did God just create the earth or are there other unfallen, uh, lives or, or beings that are out there? Let's, let's look at what the Bible says in Luke chapter 15. Jesus tells a really interesting story.
40:43 Um, he says, what man of you having a hundred sheep, if you lose one of them, does not leave the 99 and in the wilderness and go after that, which is lost until you find it. And when he found it, he laid it on his shoulders rejoicing. And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbors saying unto them, rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep, which was lost. I say unto you that likewise, joy shall be in heaven over one sitter that repenteth more than over 90 and nine just persons who never, which need no repentance. Okay. So typically as we read that, that, uh, parable, we, we focus on, you know, the person who's lost. We think the shepherd is either. Jesus or, you know, the person who's going to save somebody, uh, the one lost sheep is one lost individual. And then the 99 sheep are 99 saved individuals. But I'd like to suggest something about that idea, because think about it.
41:40 Are there 99 in this people in this world that never needed repentance, right? Are there 99 people in this world that never needed repentance? Actually, no. Isaiah 53 verse six says, all we like sheep have. What gone astray. We have turned every one to his own way and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us. What all. So everybody is like that lost sheep. So this entire planet is more like a lost sheep than just one individual. All of us are lost, right? So watch this. So who are the 99 then that are needing no repentance? Uh, one commentator says it like this. By the law. Sheep Christ represents not only the individual sinner, but the one world that had apostatized and had been ruined by sin.
42:35 The inhabitants of all other worlds are loyal and true to God, but he will not permit this one lost sheep to perish. The God of heaven is not unmindful of the world and its concerns. So, so Fred, when you think about that parable, like, yeah, the 99 can't be other human beings because they all need repentance. We're all sinners in need of, of the grace of God. So it can't, you can say that the minimum you can say is that the 99 is the angels, but I don't think that it makes sense that they're compared on the same way angels and, and, and humans, because angels were there in heaven and created in that, in that instance. And it's, and it makes it sound like they're together, right? So in my mind, the 100 altogether is all the different planets. If you look through the universe, there's so many other sons. There's so many other, um, galaxies. There are out there and, and it just would seem very limiting in my mind to think that God is the earth is the only creation that exists.
43:34 Like it says that there's a greater light and a lesser light in Genesis, right? We agree, but there are also other sons and other galaxies. We know this. So that one greater light doesn't mean that's the only greater light for the entire universe. The sun is not the only sun in the entirety. There's other sons. There's way more star systems, right? So that logic alone should just tell us. Combined with the parable that, yeah, that, that the evidence is there, that there's, um, uh, life beyond just this planet in my mind, at least. Fascinating. Very good. I think, um, also there's other, other things like the worlds, like you said, there's plural form in Hebrew. Hebrews. Yes. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Hebrews talks about worlds. I don't know. Yeah. I guess we'll find out when we get there, but, uh, well, so, so part of the reason why.
44:25 I think that this is significant is remember, I started saying that Satan doesn't usually create new ideas. He just counterfeits, right? And so his idea is he's counterfeiting people from fallen, uh, unfallen worlds. And I think that's one of the things that he's doing. He got that idea from what I'm about to show you. Okay. He got the idea. Yeah. So check out this statement. Okay. And she says here, many under different circumstances have listened. To the voices of the inhabitants of other worlds, they have come to act a part in this life. They have spoken in assemblies and open before assemblies, human histories, and have done works, which it was impossible for human agencies and agencies to do time. And again, they have been generals of armies. They have sent forth to cleanse away the pestilence. They have eaten at the humble board of families.
45:19 Often they have appeared as weary travelers in need of shelter for the night. But, but. So she's saying that the great controversy is not just everybody looking at, at, at earth. They're actually coming here to be invested in, involved in stopping the danger that the enemy is trying to, to, to, to, uh, put out on human beings. It's actually, man, there's so many things I can say about this. Like in the civil war, there's many stories of generals who say that they, they had dead, um, soldiers come back to them. Or angels fighting for them on the battlefield, like supernatural things taking place. There's many, many, uh, records of that, like straight up supernatural things, which didn't make sense to the soldiers, to the generals at that time, uh, both on the good side and on the bad side. So you can look that up, but she's basically saying here that they're invested the rest of the universe because their mind is already made up at the cross.
46:21 They're like, nah, we're choosing God. They're not choosing Satan. So now they don't have this danger of like, well, will they follow this? Yeah. Yeah. They're like, no, we want to help. We see humanity suffering and they're coming here to help us. And so in my mind, them coming here to help us is what caused Satan to say, whoa, the other, the other worlds are here. Let me counterfeit that. Let me let you guys pretend to be those guys and then show up before the cities of this world and start telling people, oh yeah, they, they need to start keeping Sunday. They need to start joining the new world order. They need to start, you know? Uh, caring about the environment, which is a good thing, but then how you save the environment is, which is the key thing, which by like, let's say having work free Sundays, right? Forcing everybody to not work on a Sunday. That's a problem because that's not according to what the Bible says. The Bible says the seventh day is a Sabbath day of the Lord. I got right. And so it makes a difference to him. Timing is everything. So this is what this controversy is literally about. Like this unseen help is being sent here so that we can have.
47:27 All the resources at our fingertips so that we can save, be saved and save others a hundred percent, a hundred percent. Wow. That's something that's really exciting. And it's good. Yeah, it is. It's the best news, man. It's the best news because like most people don't care. We typically just don't, we're just like, ah, salvation, uh, hockey game, uh, life, uh, like I caught this, like the rest of the universe is here to help you. Yeah. Like you have no idea how invested they are and it's only with spiritual insight and the Holy Spirit working on your heart that you can be awakened to these realities and to, to cooperate with them, to accomplish the great good that God wants to do through you. If you say that, well, we have other entities from other worlds here to help us. We know their angels are here to help us. But if you say that there is other angel, other, other worlds, other entities that have been from other places, the typical, uh, response I get from most pastors and, and, uh, inside and outside the church is that, you know, we believe that there is not, uh, other, uh, planets that have come to help us, uh, and, but there are angels that have come to help us.
48:44 And, and, and I understand why they're saying that because you don't want to say, you know, the huge deception that's about to come, uh, that's legit and that's, that's real. So how, how are we, I'm kind of setting you up. How are we to differentiate? Differentiate, differentiate. What's that word? Differentiate. That's the word. Differentiate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Between the two. So first thing I'll say is that, um, spiritual things are spiritually discerned and advanced spiritual truths are not necessarily for everybody. Sometimes people just need a little bit of light. They can't handle all the light, right? You got to lead them step by step. And I'll just use a quick example to kind of illustrate this. Like there was a fly in my house not too long ago. And it was like flying. And I was like, that's, this is annoying. They're not too many flies in Alberta.
49:30 I was telling you about that. And I was like, I got to get this fly out, but it was like flying around the ceiling. So I was like, Hmm, wait a second. It's evening. I don't like a dude. I turned off all the lights in my house and I closed all the blinds and then I opened the door just a little bit. So there was like a sliver of light and immediately the fly flew towards that little bit of light. Right. When, when, when all the lights were put out, he would ignore all the darkness and he would focus. On the little bit of light that was available. And sometimes that's how you have to lead people. Sometimes you can't give them a whole too much light. You need to shut off all the rest of the light and just feed them a little piece. So that guides them to where they need to go. Okay. So that's what I'll say to that. But explaining that now going more in detail, um, if you're a Seventh-day Adventist, you were baptized, uh, expressing belief in fundamental belief number 17, which is the spirit of prophecy, right?
50:25 Uh, expressing the idea that the remnant church in the last. Days is going to hold to two things, the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus, which is through his prophets. Thank you. And so, um, so, so that idea is espoused in, um, the writings of Ellen G. White. And she's the one who's putting forth this idea. I'm not kind of coming up with it or manufacturer. She says, many have listened to the voices of the inhabitants of other worlds. Now it's very, very clear that, and this is why I always set it up. Like, like I, I just, it's just played English. Let me, let me just show this one more time on screen. It says the angels and the, and the holy inhabitants of other worlds watch with intense interest. The events taking place on this earth, if there are angels and holy inhabitants of other worlds, can they be the same body?
51:20 If this, if I say there's angels and inhabitants of other worlds, like, and like, if I say there's apples and there's oranges, I can, I can't say that apples are oranges. Right. That's like, like, that's not how English works. So, so she's the one who's making that clear distinction. And so she's saying, listen, they are talking to you guys, whether you accept it or not. That's fine. I, I totally understand. It's a new, what seems like a newer novel idea and people want to reject it, but I'm just reading literally like anybody who's coming up with a different interpretation has to be adding something to the text or denying what she's saying. Those, those are the individuals who are saying that's not what she's saying. And this is like, okay. Okay. Why? So do you think that this sets up Adventists to be more deceived than the rest of Christianity? I mean, this is a heavy question. I have to admit, because what I'm saying is if you say, well, we believe that there are other inhabitants and they have come and helped us out.
52:15 And other Christians, let's say the other Christians don't believe in other inhabitants from other worlds. And they say, well, we see all these things, but we don't believe in them. How, why? You know what I mean? Why would, why would. Sure. And so I also go, go ahead. Go ahead. Answer that first. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Second question. Not second question. I have a statement to read after that. Go ahead. Okay. So, so when I first presented this, I did a video at another channel, um, like channel and, and I recorded this and presented it and I shared it with the world at that time. And then a friend shared that with his brother and he wrote me and he said, my brother told me he was crying after that statement. And I was like, he's crying. He's like, he was in tears. And I was like, why, why was he crying? And he said, because if that statement is true, that means God is invested in our salvation.
53:11 The good angels are invested in our salvation. Ministers and missionaries are interested in our salvation. Even the devil cares for us to lose our salvation is working that we can lose it. But we are the only ones that are totally apathetic about our own salvation. We don't even really care. It's like other worlds are coming here to literally save us. And we are the ones who are just kind of like, ah, hockey game, TV, bubble gum life. You understand? And like the weight of that reality is something that should draw your heart out in love to God because he's spending every single resource that he possibly can to help save humanity. I just thought, you know, in the statement, she says that they, they came to grab away the pestilence, right?
54:03 And as I think about that, I'm thinking right now, right now in Florida, they're releasing these genetically modified mosquitoes. Bill Gates has some genetically modified mosquitoes that like are being released on the population. I'm like, man, what a horrible thing. What a horrible, like who knows what that's going to do, right? But I, I, I praise God statements like this. Give me encouragement that they're going to stop that stuff. There's good angels that are from heaven that are doing that, but it's not just the angels. Like there's the investment of the unfollowed. And that's supposed to, the whole question to going back to answer your question specifically about what does this do to Adventists? It shows us and should show the world that we knew what was going to happen before it happened. Right now, the Pentagon is having all these, you know, conversations and there's testimonies in the Senate about aliens and all. We should have been like, yeah, we were waiting for that. We, a hundred years ago, we were on the ball and we know that it's a deception.
55:00 But there's actually good news too. The universe is much bigger. God's love is much bigger than you realize. And they're here to help us. But these guys, yeah, these guys are the fakes. Like we're that on the ball that we're telling you what is actually happening, which you guys don't realize. Like not because of us, don't get it wrong. It's not because of us. It's in spite of us. And because of Christ, Adventists are broken people. I can emphasize that like, like hardcore Adventists. Are not perfect people. Okay. Just, just hear me say that. But Jesus is, he's a perfect person and therefore he's the one who's created a perfect movement so that people can join it and be ready for his coming. I guess, I guess that all, um, I guess it makes more sense, I guess I should say that, uh, first John four says, beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God for false prophets have gone out into the world by this, you know, the spirit of God.
56:00 Every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Boy, that's quite a test is from God. And every spirit does, does not confess Jesus Christ is not from God. This is the spirit of antichrist, which you have heard was coming and is now in the world already. Fascinating. So I, that's, that's the ultimate test. Uh, do they speak according to the Bible, the word of God and are they confessing Jesus? Christ in the flesh? I think that's fascinating. Yes. I, I will add one quick more thing. Um, Paul says that many of you have entertained angels unawares, right? So that's a key factor as well. Typically when there's angel angelic interaction, uh, they don't let you know that they're from other planets. They just show up as human beings because they're not trying to spur on our pride or, you know, they're not trying to make us feel any kind of self inflation.
56:57 They're just doing a job. And they typically get out of. There's as quick as possible. I had crazy stories about that too. Like I have a friend, I mean, in Africa, she literally was like, had to, she was trying to get from one village to another and the sun was setting and she was walking and she has a daughter. She was a single mom with a little daughter. Daughter's like, you know, five years old. And then she got to the town to catch the bus, but then the bus had left. She got there late. And, um, as she was looking around, she saw all these men kind of in the town and she's like, this is dangerous. So she starts walking to the next village and the sun is setting. And she's like, oh my goodness, Lord, please let somebody pick us up or something like that. And as she's walking, the daughter got tired, like being, she got tired of holding her and the daughter was walking up in front of her ahead. And so the daughter was kind of walking up behind her. And as she was walking, she heard some, some movement in the bushes and she looks to the side of the road and it's a leopard.
57:51 There's literally like a leopard and it snarls. And I was like, and then it ran and it didn't move it. It came close to the daughter and it was literally recorded. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was going to pounce. And then right at that second, she just heard pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. Like this crazy sound of a, like a really busted engine. And then she said, she looked, no, she didn't look. She said her daughter looked. Then she said she saw the leopard looked. Then she looked. And then she said, right in between the girl and leopard, this old looking vehicle pulls up. And the guy's like, get in. And he grabs the daughter, puts her in and tells her, get in right now. And she jumps in the back of the car. And then they start driving. And there's like, in this like, rickety. Rickety vehicle they're driving. And it's like, and she's like, she's like, who are you? Who are you? And she's like, like, what, what, what just happened? He's like, ah, don't worry. I go to the next village, next village. And he's not saying anything.
58:40 Like she's trying to get information. He doesn't want to talk. She gets there. He drops her off. He's like, okay, you can go there. This place and catch the next bus at that area. And she turns around, she looks back and then the car's gone. The truck has gone rather, you know? And so stories like that, let me know, like, that's how they operate there. They're they mean business. Whereas, you know, Satan's angels, they want to wine and dine you make you feel good. Like they're spent your special and all of that nonsense. But Paul says they typically, you entertain them without being aware that you're working with them. Um, so that's kind of another hint as to, to kind of how these, these spirits operate. Wow. Wow. Praise the Lord. I think it's, it's a fascinating topic. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate everything you've you've taught and that you're, you're talking about, and we will check out that your ministry and, uh, and I hope to have you on here some more and we'll talk. We'll talk more story about the strange things that are happening in your normal life, everyone's normal life.
59:35 This is about to become a very big deal. So I'm, I'm excited to, um, to dig in further and see what God has in store for us, because it's, it's going to be a blast. So thank you for what you're doing, Brad. This is definitely needed. I appreciate your channel and I appreciate your ministry brother. God bless.