0:01 We get started a little bit late tonight, but it's going to be a good show, so I'm glad you're tuning in. We're at 9.46 p.m. on a Sunday night, Eastern Time, at the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains in Chattanooga, Tennessee. We have a lot going on. I want to show you. I wish I could tell you everything that we are doing tonight, but it's a pretty good episode. I was going to talk about Olympics, MPOCs, Tucker's free speech thing, and TikTok, but I don't want to. We're going to talk about what we normally talk about. Stay tuned. I don't care if you think I'm Satan reincarnated. The Interspirit will declare themselves to be inhabitants of five distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet Earth of the impending destruction of the planet.
1:24 It is now 90 seconds to midnight. I still think these are what people call angels. I'm dying to know what they've got to say. Pretty severe suffering brings them. These entities have the ability to appear in any form. Welcome to Strange Normal. My name is Bradley. We talk about the stranger things that happen in your normal life to give you a biblical understanding of what is going on. And there's a lot going on, so make sure you hit that subscribe button. Make sure you hit that bell icon. And the like button, too. So you recognize and you can get notified when things like this happen.
2:59 Folks, we've had a little bit of a bump on the road as we get started here, and I want to get right into it. But let me tell you, I've got these weird little white headphones in my ear, these Bluetooth ones right now, because I can't find mine. After we had an awesome show with Walter Veith, I hid my headphones, apparently, and I cannot find them for the life of me. But, um... Pray that I find them. I don't know where they are. I've looked everywhere. Maybe at my wife's work or something. I don't know. Anyways, we're going to get right into it. I do have an echo in my ear, and I've had to turn it down so I don't stutter. And so let me bring in my guest tonight. If I miss what my guest says, it's because I can't hear you very well. But, Andrew, let me bring you in. How are you tonight? I'm doing good, and you're forgiven in advance. Very good.
3:52 We've got an amazing show. So, I dug into some stuff. Despite this being my 10-year anniversary, wedding anniversary, I wanted to look into some stuff tonight. It's cut into this show for good reason, but I think I still pulled up some pretty interesting stuff. As you know, Andrew, because you're one of the Patreon members, you're in the Discord, we've gotten a lot, a huge influx of people just recently, this last episode, because of the Walter Veith, a lot of Walter Veith friends out there that came in. Almost 1,000. We almost hit 30,000 views on this last video. If you haven't seen it yet, everybody, you've got to go see it. It's really interesting to hear his story behind this whole thing and hear him confirm what we've been studying for the last three years on this channel. So, it's an interesting episode.
4:44 And so, what we do every day, and I'm not necessarily talking to you, Andrew, because I know you know this. But to everybody else that's brand new, we look at what's going on in your strange, normal life to try to figure out what is happening biblically. And sometimes, we are heavy, heavy into the Word, and we try to always look at the lens of the Bible, but sometimes we're just looking at this and going, okay, this is the UFO mantra that's happening. This last week, we try to watch the news and go, okay, this is what's happening. Let's keep track of this because this is what we're told to do. There is absolutely something happening spiritually right now in our current events, and we want to keep track of that.
5:39 So, I'm going to do that anyway. So, I thought, why not start a YouTube channel and present what I'm seeing every week? That way, everyone else can keep track of it as well. That seems... It seems that people do want to understand what's happening. So, that's kind of the background. Tonight, we have three things we're looking at. Matthew Pines is a new character that came on the scene. He's a part of the government. He's helping the government understand what to do in crisis, and he brought up this understanding of aliens and UFOs and all this UAP stuff and NHI. All the stuff we talked about on this channel that the government is looking at, All the stuff we talked about on this channel that the government is looking at, looking into the U.S. government. We're also going to dig into Anjali. She's also a new character that we haven't discussed yet. Very interesting character, and what she says has been channeled about 2027.
6:40 I always like to preface it. We don't necessarily believe that what demons think are going to happen about the future is absolutely what's going to happen about. But we want to make sure we're keeping tabs on the crazy guy in the middle of the square down here that's yelling that he's going to do something on a certain date, so we can avoid it, or at least be ready for it. The third thing we're going to discuss tonight is Joe Rogan. The reason why we're discussing him is because he's with Peter Thiel. Thiel? Thiel? He is the co-founder of PayPal. And so these two, with a big voice, Joe Rogan, and also a well-known character, are discussing... are discussing the idea that they could be angels. So it's kind of an interesting thing that we're going to do overnight, and I thought maybe we'd get right into it. But Andrew, I want to give it to you. Do you have anything to say before we go? I mean, I just... I'm curious to see what's in there.
7:38 I barely even peeked at the outline before signing up. Very good. Let's dig into it. And by the way, I just want to say also, I'm wearing a Roswell shirt tonight. This is not because I'm like, huge into the UFO scene. When Walter Veith came, he's, he, I had a dress shirt on and he's like, so what got you into UFOs? And I said, nothing, really. I mean, prophecy, the Bible. Actually, I said, you know, it was the revelation from, what's that guy's name? Morneau, Roger Morneau. And then digging into it further and realizing that this is actually talked about in spirit of prophecy in the Bible. So, I have been studying this. I've gone to different places. I've dove deep into it to understand what they're trying to say about this, because this is the coming religion that people are talking about.
8:41 And it's important to understand that stuff. So, that's a long explanation of why I'm wearing a Roswell shirt tonight. So, let's talk about Matthew Pines. Let's get an introduction to him first. This is from a different podcast. We're going to talk a little bit about Matthew Pines and who is he. And then we're going to see what he has been saying about this stuff, which is fascinating. Okay. Let's see if I can get right into it here. Don't have my B roll up. Let's see here. Boom. There it is. I have a sort of a non-traditional background. My undergrad was in physics and philosophy. I did a master's in philosophy and public policy. Found my way to DC. DC. Worked for the National Science Foundation for two years. And then stumbled into consulting for the government on sort of range of projects for the past 10 years.
9:32 Generally, the through line is helping the government sort of think through and prepare for bad scenarios. And then assess how they're prepared for those bad scenarios. And then also along the way, do various assessments of emerging technology. And sort of jump around from project to project. I originally shifted last year away from sort of government-focused security consulting to private sector security consulting. So, I joined a firm called the Krebs. Stamos Group, which is a startup focusing on the intersection of geopolitical and cybersecurity risk and really advising multinationals sort of like their senior sort of business strategy. And so, I recently took over as the director for security intelligence there. I'm also affiliated with the Bitcoin Policy Institute as a national security fellow. About a year ago, connected with those guys and really trying to help, you know, put out some, you know, rigorous long form and insightful analysis, at least I think, on the intersection of Bitcoin and U.S. national security. Okay. So, that's interesting. Let's bring it back to us real quick. So, this guy's heavily influenced the government.
10:31 And he's going to be heavily influencing the government on what's going on. So, it's good to listen to what he has to say about this. And he talks very authoritative about it. Not only that, he's also very deep into the finance area. I think Bitcoin and cryptocurrency or perhaps the government's version of that is going to be a big deal here. Pretty soon. And I think that this is part of that and how it's going to evolve in a sense, microevolution, in this tiny world we live in because lots is happening right now. And so, now we have a background in him. I want to hear what he has to say before we comment on it. So, let's dig right into that. Here we go. It's interesting. The day we recorded last year, I believe, was the day. The day that several senior senators introduced a bill, an amendment to the FY24 National Defense Authorization Act that was called the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Disclosure Act, UAPDA.
11:41 That was just almost a little over a year ago. And that bill, which I encourage everyone to just Google, look up the UAPDA and read it. 64 pages of densely well-constructed. Seriously, you know, organized legislative language that states in no uncertain terms the Senate's view of this subject as being very, very serious. And that, so we can talk about the substance, but just kind of the process since then has been, it was introduced, passed out of the Senate. It was a mannish amendment actually from Senator Schumer and Senator Rounds. So, Senator Schumer was the majority leader. And he was co-sponsored by Senator Todd Young, Marco Rubio, Gillibrand. And Martin Heinrich. So, folks of very senior positions, both sides of the aisle, representing the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Senate Armed Services Committee, the majority leader. Folks that are part of the Gang of Eight, which is the most sort of senior group in the Congress, clear to our most sensitive programs. And the interest of this bill.
12:42 So, we're in this position now where coming into the summer, there's going to be some major things happening. So, the objective, essentially, of the things that are going to happen the rest of this year. As close to the full package that's in the UAPDA passed. Okay. So, let's pause it right there just for a second. He wants to get, he's speaking very authoritative now. He says, look, this is what we want to do with this UAPDA, whatever it's called, to pass. And so, he's going to explain more about the process. And they call it the seven-year process, which is already. We're already in it. To reveal what's going on here. It's very interesting. I'm going to continue. Right. So, the next president will essentially preside over the nominations.
13:36 And then review the declassification and disclosure determinations of the review board. Only the president will have, essentially, the final veto, right, over those determinations. The review board has to provide, like, a UAP disclosure campaign plan. And there's all these, you know, restrictions on, like, what the agencies, if they say that we don't want this to happen. To be declassified. There have to be, like, specific reasons published. So, there's a lot of stakes coming on, like, this bill. That's going to be, you know, now reintroduced as part of the FY25 NDAA. And that will likely, you know, come to a similar sort of contention in conference committee later this year. Probably November, December. Where, behind closed doors, will be a debate about how much of this package will actually make it into law. Because the NDAA is one of those bills that always gets passed. Right. And so, this is the fight that's happening. And so, there's going to be a wave of public discourse that's going to start next month in August that is designed to generate such momentum to push the UAPDA across the line.
14:38 So, in particular, what's going to start this will be a book that's coming out by a gentleman named Lou Elizondo. Oh, we've heard of him. Who was kind of the original guy. Started this all in 2017. Helped get those videos out to the New York Times. He was a guy who sort of is a career, like, you know, absolute boss inside the Pentagon. He was a member of what's called the Intelligence Support Activity. Kind of like Delta Force, but would go behind enemy lines to, like, scout things out. He, counterintelligence officer, counterterrorism officer, did a bunch of stuff. And it was tapped, basically, to run sort of this UFO program inside the Pentagon in 2008. And so, he's coming out with this tell-all book, basically, called Imminent. Good title. In August. Then there's going to be two documentaries coming out with people that no one's heard of yet. That are... That are going to make pretty eye-opening claims. And that those people will have the credentials to back those claims up.
15:30 Can you say what those claims are? I mean, basically, that everything David Grush said in testimony is true. So, that they've retrieved craft. Yes. And that they've found, like, biological beings. Yeah. Essentially, what the UAP says, which is that there are these legacy programs to retrieve and exploit, reverse engineer technologies of unknown origin and biological materials. Those programs exist. Like, the Senate legislation is premised on those programs existing. The purpose is to investigate those programs and to force the information and records and materials that they hold into a more formal and legitimate and accountable process. And to disclose certain elements of those programs to the public. Hmm. So, that's the goal. That's what he's going towards. That's what the whole process is. There's a group of people that's kind of pushing this forward. And they are a formally part of the government. Yeah. We've talked a little bit about them. One of them, I believe, is Lou Elizondo. And there's a bunch of other people in there as well.
16:31 Andrew, I know you're way privy on this already. So, I'm kind of giving a background to all this. David Grush, as you know, is one of the biggest wigs that came out of the Pentagon and said, yeah, this all is real. We have biologics. We have all this stuff. What I like to call them on this channel is meat puppets. Because I think these things, if they have found something weird. I don't believe it's actually E.T. But I do believe the devil doesn't create. But he can puppet things around pretty good. So, I wouldn't be surprised what he has. There's going to be a big deception coming. And we, as Christians, need to know what's happening. And so, there's much more to this clip. But I want to turn it over to you, Andrew. Do you have any comments on it before we get started? Yeah.
17:21 It seems to me kind of like a bunch of these guys got together. They're friends in a little group here. And they're trying to make a plan for how to push and influence the government into getting their plan, getting their idea pushed through. So, like, you have – he's working with, obviously, behind the scenes, this Elizondo guy. And clearly, they're trying to lay out a plan if we want to push these guys and these guys and these guys at this certain point to actually push our legislation that we're asking for into law. Yeah. And they're very well organized about it. It's interesting to me, though. They're maintaining a level of plausible deniability by the fact that they are pushing the government, supposedly, right? But, you know, they're lobbying, basically, you know, through their documentary, through their book, through timing all the releases out.
18:20 It really looks like they're trying to make it appear that they're lobbying. You know, from this position of we know something's going on here. But they're keeping enough plausible deniability that it can't be strictly said, in fact, that the government itself is pushing this, but rather the people that are associated are, if I'm making any sense here. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. There's a big push. And it's – they've said since 2020 that there's going to be a seven-year plan. And we're going to talk about the reason behind that, too. They don't want mass panic. And if you believe in conspiracies, look, I'm not a big conspiracy person. But there is something going on, and we've absolutely proven, and they've said it, that they are going to reveal this thing slowly. And something is happening starting in two days, which is the release of El Lozano's book that's going to start a process of legislation and stuff like that in the U.S. about this.
19:22 The book comes out on the 20th. On the 20th? 20th? 20th? 22nd? I forget. But we're going to be covering that on this channel when it does come out. I have the audio book queued and preordered so we can kind of analyze what the – I call it the narrative that the government has been given. It's the lie, basically, by the spiritual realm. And we're going to dig into that so we're not deceived by it. This is huge. And so let's dig into. I wanted to kind of review what David Grutch said about biologics because I think that's going to be the big mind blower if something like that happens. There's a lot of Christians that understand this stuff that don't believe there's going to be biologics and that they haven't shown anything yet as possible. But just in case, it's good to look into it to understand what they're claiming so we can have an understanding of the whole thing.
20:24 Okay. Let's watch this short clip on David Grutch from the Senate hearing. Senate? I think it was Senate. Here we go. If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human. And that was the assessment of people with. Correct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary references, video, photos, eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a skiff about. Interesting. That's a popular news organization covering this. So is this a distraction? I don't think so.
21:21 And here's why. Because although it seems like nonsense. But Revelation talks about this exact thing. If you go to Revelation 16, 13, it talks about the three frogs. The three frogs, Revelation said they go out to all the world and to all the leaders of the world to deceive them. And ready them for battle of the great day of God Almighty. That's Revelation starting with Revelation 16. And so this is that part. If you want to understand Bible prophecy more, I mean, even the USA is in Bible prophecy. The lamb-like beast. And so this is huge stuff that's happening here. And we need to understand exactly how we fit into the mix of this. Because it's very evident, especially if you study your Bible. You can see that the devil came to Eve in a deception.
22:27 A snake. He's going to come again in a deception. And mask himself as something else. And he's going to want worship. Because Revelation 14, 12 talks about that. No, I'm sorry. Revelation, Isaiah 14, 12 talks about that. Any comments? Andrew? Mainly just going back to Grush himself. The way that it's described. He's not deceptive. But you know, deceptions are in a way a distraction. Like he's basically getting two birds with one stone here. Because this is a distraction. Right? Because the most important thing in this world is your personal relationship with Jesus.
23:16 So in the strictest sense of the word, this is a distraction. And it's an attack against Christ. You know, it's not a mutually exclusive kind of thing. Yeah, I agree. I agree 100%. So what else does this guy say about this? Let's dig further into this. I should have been looking at my notes here. The objective. Here's where we talk about the seven-year plan. This is interesting. So watch this. That's not it. But if you understand that, though, these are real. And we have five years from 2022. So this is all about, again, Grush. I don't think the job is to say anything new. It's to get more senior people to say, basically, the same thing. OK. So take it more seriously. So David Grush was sort of the first door opener to establish, and into the discourse, this concept of retrieved craft and biological materials.
24:14 That was like the, oh, what? And you saw the people in Congress being like, what are you talking about? And then the Senate comes out with this bill that says, biological materials, technology of unknown origin, defines legacy programs. It ensures that nobody that's on this review board can be associated with the legacy programs. What do you think biological materials means? Bodies. Of non-human beings. Entities. Aliens. I don't know what you mean by aliens, but a biological creature of a morphology that we don't recognize as being associated with any sort of phylogenetic tree. It came from another planet. Or has it been here forever? There's other hypotheses. Yeah, it's been here forever. I mean, we are about to create synthetic life. We are thinking about engineering complex synthetic biological systems, biomechanical systems. Most of the things on DARPA's drawing board for 20 years is the convergence of synthetic biology, robotics, and AI.
25:07 So you can imagine these being synthetic biological creatures designed to perform certain functions, not necessarily. But come from somewhere else. Or made by something else. Not necessarily coming from somewhere else. What the folks pushing for disclosure don't want is what they call catastrophic disclosure, which is the sort of uncontrolled spilling of all the stuff associated with this topic in a way that would cause social fear. Yeah, but we want to see shit. Let's be honest, we want to see a spaceship. But that's the objective. The objective isn't to convince everyone at the same time. In fact, it's the exact opposite objective. Because if everyone all of a sudden went from thinking this isn't true to thinking it is true, well, you could have disruptive social effects. So the objective is to increase the number of people that think this is true by a few percentage points every few months. But we gradually get there. And that's the point. That's the point of having this seven-year project where you establish sort of a rolling consensus on these things. Fascinating. What I think is most fascinating about that is that he says, no, not necessarily. There's other theories of where these things came from.
26:11 But if you take what Roger Morneau says, he'll say that this absolutely will claim to be things from a long ways away, which the ancient Hebrews were also deceived by. According to Spirit of Prophecy. So I think it's really interesting that this is happening right now, or it's going to happen very soon. I dug into this guy, and I was like, how does he know so much about this all of a sudden? He speaks so authoritatively about this. Where's he getting his information from? Well, a long time ago, there was this—see if I can do this. Yes, I can. Okay. This is a news article about a UFO whistleblower, who can't be seen. And he says, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't want to say anything. I'm just going to talk to you because this is not what I'm saying.
27:03 Andrew, can you see my screen? Yes. Okay. So, UFO whistleblower had held Secret Talk with Wall Street — this is from Daily Mail — where he claimed the U.S. was in possession of 40-foot TARDIS-like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there he is. This weird thing is that, after he spoke at the government, he went to this private big-wig Wall Street conference. He had a secret talk. He was sitting in front of a wall. He was like, Wall Street, uh, investor thing held by, let's just read it. Daily Mail understands the guests included officials from the FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, and tech entrepreneurs and Wall Street bigwigs. All in all, Grutch gave a talk to 60 people in his penthouse in Manhattan. Photos were banned from the event. Uh, the only information about the meeting was leaked by anonymous attendee who took pictures of Grutch. Daily Mail has since verified that the meeting took place and was told by sources that Coinbase advisor, John, I can't say his last name, and a high-powered attorney, John, another attorney, hosted this event. Coinbase is a publicly traded company, and the two men are said to host monthly events at this apartment, focusing on different topics. So what I think is going on here is, this guy that's talking was a part of this group. And so this group, because he already said he's a part of this Bitcoin thing, he's a part of the finances of Wall Street and all this, and he's advising the government. And so he's saying, hey, let me lay it all out here. This is what the plan is. We're going to go ahead and do it this way. And it's going to start with Lou Elizondo's book that's happening. I'm keeping abreast of what's happening, making sure I understand the pieces that are being put into place and how fast things are happening, because I think it's important that we connect all the dots here and follow this as it comes down. Any comments before I go on, Andrew? Just two of them. We kind of dug into a little bit with you. And my first one was, who's we? He speaks very authoritatively. Clearly, he's working with other people behind the scenes. And this little forum you talked, well, I could get very speculative, but it almost sounds like somebody else has helped a big rig, rich environments with presentations, who in the 1940s. But anyway, it's being a little bit speculative. Another thing I want to point out was the instant reaction where the guy said maybe they've been here forever. It was not him. It was the man that instinctively, when he did not say it was aliens, the first reaction, that man was maybe they've been here forever. Now, that seems kind of odd to me, unless part of his mind must have thought maybe there's some truth to this being angels. Because if he says they're not aliens, why is his first reaction, they've been here forever in the interviewer?
30:16 So I think that's interesting. I think people, maybe not consciously, but subconsciously, can see the spiritual reality. And they're just, not putting it together yet. And I think that's what's going to come out at the end, because these things are going to present themselves as beings from far, far away that have been caring for our race and has seated here for a long time. At least that's the narrative that they're pressing. And then it's going to be like, well, these are the angels of the Bible. And it's all going to be deception, because they're going to start speaking against the Bible according to what we understand is going to happen. So unless you have something else to say, I want to jump into John Ramirez real quick. Go right ahead. John Ramirez is a former CIA agent. And he said something interesting also about this, because they said it's a seven-year plan in that last clip. The objective they have is a seven-year revelation project. And John Ramirez echoed something similar. And so let me play that clip real quick. John Ramirez But if you understand that, though these are real, and we have five years from 2022, or maybe now four years, if they come in 2027, for the US government to prepare the people about what is up there. And in many ways, I think the word got out within the government that they're showing up in 2027, and we better be prepared. And if not, there's going to be a lot of explaining to do.
31:59 John Ramirez So John Ramirez is a former CIA agent. And if you understand that, though these are real, and we have five years from 2022, or maybe now four years, if they come in 2027, for the US government to prepare the people about what is up there. John Ramirez I think that dialogue has happened with these decades. And this show up, there will be mass panic. John Ramirez Then that's what they're trying to avoid. They said they want to avoid mass panic. So they're doing this seven-year revelation type thing. And so he said that this is all happening. And he's a former CIA agent, all these government officials that are coming out right now and saying, Oh, yeah, look, this is what's happening. This is what's happening. All this US government stuff. And you get it. John Ramirez And you got to sit back and go, wow, these guys have credentials. Why in the world is this happening right now? Well, it's Bible prophecy. That's why. So let me also get into a little bit of the wild. If that wasn't wild enough, let's go into the strange. Anjali. Anjali is also a government employee or was a government employee. We're going to look at her background first, but then we're going to see exactly what she's saying as well with all these people, David Grutch, John Ramirez, Matthew Pines.
33:07 Now let's dig into Anjali. Who is she? Thank you all for coming here to this beautiful setting for one of the most amazing announcements I think the planet will hear. This is Anjali who's had direct experience with these beings. They've come to her. They've directed her to be here. And she's going to deliver a statement. From her experience and also see what else wants to be said today. So thanks so much for being here, Anjali. I'm Anjali Steinfeld. Go ahead. It's all yours. Thank you all for being here. We'll take questions after. Yes. I'm going to pause it just for a second. She's going to introduce herself and tell her where she's from, who her actual name is because that's her pseudonym. And also, it's going to explain a little bit. you're going to see that she speaks a little odd, and I'm going to explain that at the end before we get done talking about her.
34:08 Watch and listen. Good afternoon. Many of you know me by Anjali, because that's how I chose to come forward with the name of what the higher beings that I am here to disclose to you about today have called me since I have become aware of their presence. My legal name is Anjaliya Lynn Schultz. That's A-N-G-E-L-I-A. Lynn is L-Y-N-N, last name Schultz, S-C-H-U-L-T-Z. I attended graduate school at South Dakota State University in the Department of Rural Sociology, where I was pursuing, my master's degree. At that time, during my coursework, I was recruited by the Defense Intelligence Agency to come to Washington, D.C., and be an intelligence officer.
35:18 What's with that long pause? Did you see that? That's what I'm talking about. This is going to happen over and over again, and we're going to find out why. In the effort of full disclosure, I was trained in information operations and information warfare, and human factors analysis. Weird. This is not the type of intelligence that is ever directed at any of the interests of the United States people, our citizens, or our corporations. We have absolutely zero domestic charter for that, and so I want to just make sure that everybody is clear that I am not saying that we were using information operations here. I'm saying that this is our home office, and I was trained in that, and I just want you to understand that it wasn't for any other reason but to help our senior commanders and our executives of this nation to know how to best influence state and non-state leaders to influence their decision-making for our best interests.
36:30 For our best interests. Now, I'm going to just reveal the secret here because we're going to get to it at the very end. She's going to say exactly why she's stuttering so much, and then she's going to speed up and start talking like she's normal. She's channeling. She is taking these things immediately, what they say, and they're telling her exactly what to tell everybody here at this news broadcast. And we're going to see exactly what they're telling them. And it's no lie. We're going to find out it's very similar to what we've seen John Ramirez say and all these other people that are trying to reveal something in the near future. So here we go. In 2015, I was recruited by a contractor on the behalf of the United States Marine Corps to work at the Marine Corps Tactical Operations Group.
37:34 The beings that I am in contact with refer to themselves as the council. Thank you to address that. They are guardians over this world. Because they were asked to be. Guarding this, allowing us our free will to explore and to learn without remembering who we are. So that we can return, recognize, and experience the full breadth of consciousness again and again and again. Before our no threat to humanity, they have a job. It is the end of a cycle of birth and rebirth. And it's also the end of an earth cycle. And they're here to help facilitate our growth into the next thing that comes. Boom. Okay, so she's, this isn't her talking. This is the narrative that's being presented by the spiritual realm.
38:33 They are here to help. It's kind of like the government. We're the government. We're here to help. What do you think about this, Andrew? What's going on with this? I've been typing a lot of notes. Get ready. So I want to rewind back to that first clip. Yeah. Because I had a comment on that. You know, he just says it so casually you might even miss what he was saying. There was a warning that came around the government that in seven years they were going to show up. You know, he just cruised right on by that like that was nothing. And he just offered it without any proof. Just said, hey, word got around. The government aliens are coming in seven years. So hold up. How do they know that? You know, that would, that would seem to indicate that the government, at least according to his claim is in direct contact with beings telling them I am coming in seven years.
39:31 And he's basically telling people this by slight, by implication with what he's saying. Right. So that's a fascinating thing. Um, and then interestingly enough, um, when you see how she was saying, I'm here to disclose to you, she could have just said, Hey, the aliens, this is what they want me to say. You know, she, she went, she could have told them directly what the story is that they're trying to, that the narrative is right. She could have just directly said, Hey, listen, they created us. They're watching over with the cycles or may not remember, right? All that's fun, good stuff. But instead she gives her whole life story of how she came into contact with them. Now, hold up. This sounds like a very clever counterfeit of the commands of Jesus in the Bible. When the demoniacs were possessed by demons and they wanted to be with Jesus in Mark five 19, he turns and says, Hey, no, go tell your friends what great things the Lord has done for you.
40:30 And then we see prophesied in revelation 12, 11, that God says that we overcome the enemy, Satan, by the blood of the lamb and by the word of our testimony. And so basically here comes Satan to offer a counter. Fit by having this girl give her testimony, which then gives credence to, it gives, it gives people something to connect to in the word of the aliens. I mean, it's a direct counterfeit of how God has laid out that we evangelize. And, and funny enough, this is not only that, this is a false Christ because the new age, they believe in Christ consciousness. And this is exactly what she is coming to speak up. You know, saying, Hey, you come to rejoin that. And I forget the word she just used, but it was Christ consciousness. Basically the, the breath, the power of God, you know, you come and you'll get it back. You came here to experience, um, these trials to make you fit all a big deception and all, it's not, it's like a false Christ layered with false testimony layered with just.
41:36 It's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I'll let you start talking again. No, no, no. I love it. And spiritual. The spiritual understanding that she's trying to give or they're trying to give through her is really interesting because at the very end, they're going to ask him about this. Let's, let's continue to what she's, what she's talking about here. And I'll see if, um, let me see if I got that clip here. I got so many things on my screen. Yeah, here we go. I would, I would recommend that you pray or you meditate. Whatever it was with an open, kind heart, ask for acceptance of our oneness and our connection to one another. Seek to better understand your own existence. Seek to elevate your conscious connection to all other expressions of life and the creator here.
42:34 And then whatever your spiritual philosophy, you already got it. You got it. I'm going to pause right there just for a second. There's definitely more to talk about there, but I cut out a lot of her. She just has some good background and how she discovered this and all this. She waxes long about this, but I thought what was interesting, and because this, this video is from three years ago, yesterday that she did this August 17, 2001, 2021. And, um, and the reason I'm playing this, because we're going to see what she has currently said currently. And, um, but we had to get some background on her. And so she's, she's, she's a woman. She's a woman. she's saying, what she just said here was very interesting. She says, I don't care what your background in religiously is. I want you to go pray. I want you to go meditate. I want you to do whatever it is you're spiritual, you believe spiritually, and then you'll have it. We've seen with the blood sow incident, where he prayed to the universe and said, I don't know what's going on. Please help me, universe, everyone, you out there. And something answered him. So I want to make a point that I've always made on this channel. It doesn't matter. Satan doesn't care if you're praying, as long as you don't know who you're praying to. He is permitted to answer these prayers if they're just to nobody. And that's really, really disturbing. I mean, even he said that, blood sow. If you've seen a couple episodes, if you haven't seen a couple episodes on blood sow, go watch everything I got on blood sow on the channel, because that is one of the most interesting characters that I've ever covered, and he's real today. And he said, if my prayers are being answered by satanic entities, then I don't want to pray anymore. Now, I'm not the one that's going to step out and say, you gotta pray. I'm not the one that's going to step out and say, you gotta pray. I'm not the one that's going to step out and say, you gotta pray. I'm not the one that's going to step out and say, you gotta pray. I'm not the one that's going to step out and say, you gotta pray. I'm not the one that's going to say the name of Christ like this or like that, but you at least, I mean, in the Bible, they say, look, my God is the same God as Isaac, Jacob, you know, they specify it's the Creator. And I think as things get very, very confusing at the end of time, and Satan becomes or tries to be Jesus Christ, the rest of the universe, the courts of heaven are going to be like, oh, my God, wait a second. God's going to know, but we got to be very specific. That's what I believe. I digress. Maybe you believe something different, Andrew, but this is what I'm gathering out all this time. I've got a couple thoughts here. One of them is the interesting hook around the ecumenical movement that was thrown in there, because that is the exact message of the ecumenical movement. So there, if ecumenism is being taught by these people, maybe take a closer look at that, because if they're connected, there's a reason. Think through from cause to effect, those of you who have not looked into ecumenical movements, because again, if these guys are talking about it, and we know that they've got all these connections to the occult, do some math on that one. And the second one, I just want to briefly mention your subject about prayer. And that is that, you know, we have examples of people in the Bible that, didn't know per se, the God of the Bible, but they reach the God of the Bible. And I would argue that is because they have a willing heart, and God knows people's hearts. I don't want to lean so far as to say that we should trust our heart. We don't know our hearts at all. You know, God says our hearts are deceitfully wicked, and who can know them? But the fact is, God is who can
46:41 know them, not us. So we should trust our hearts. And I would argue that, you know, we have a trust them, but the fact is, God is able to tell. And so that's kind of where I'd lay the line out with you and your little, your point about, we don't have to say it a certain way. God knows if you're reaching out to him, or if you just want a free ride, or you're deceived, you know? Yeah, yeah. Anyways, keep going on with your point. No, no, I think you stated it well, and I probably didn't state it very well, but I think it's 100% true. God knows what we are trying to reach, and sometimes I think people like blood, so are just like fed up, and they just like reach out to anything, and that gets really scary. And so, yeah, there's a ditch on each side of that straight and narrow path, and I don't want to be caught on either side. Let's dig further into what she's saying here. Let me make sure I got this last clip. Yeah, this is the one. Let's see. I clicked the wrong button. Let's see if we can play it. I may have mentioned this in the podcast, but when you're speaking to us and answering these questions, is it you, or are you speaking via the higher beings coming through? Did you hear what he said, Andrew?
48:02 Not quite. Yeah, so he said, It was scratchy. When you are speaking of these higher beings, is it you, or are they speaking through you? And listen to her answer. Are they answering? Yes, they are answering today. Yes. Is there anything special they want to tell us today, like right now, that we can do? Is there anything that they want to tell us today that we can do? Look at that pause. We must recognize that we are all connected, and that needs to frame every decision and every intention that you set in your life. Consciousness is much more complicated than we think it is.
48:59 They want us to grow. They want as many of us as possible to be ready for the next step. The next step? And to be ready to accept them without fear, without threat of violence, but hand in hand. Okay, wow. In a nutshell, you could define what the narrative is. I think that's it right there. They want ecumenicalism. They want you to come with accepting hearts when you realize that these things are not human, and when they come and appear. What do you think about that, Andrew? I see a thread running through all of this. Good, good. I'm going back to very constantly. I think that's the concept of evolution, and it's this idea of growth occurring, where rather than we come down from our pride, like you see in the Bible, we come down from our pride and we surrender to Christ and he exalts us, rather that this false way, even the evolution says that we go up to God's level and we ascend up to being like him.
50:27 Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Like him, not in character, because this God doesn't, the God they speak of, the only thing this God cares about is growing power, which is not what we see of the God of the Bible. But you see this constant lie about we go up, we grow, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you know, it reads or it listens just exactly like in Isaiah when it speaks to Satan. You know, I will become exalted above the clouds. I will be like the most high, and it's an appeal to be like Satan in character, to grow if it were even possible. It's not, but they want you to believe it's possible to grow up to that high plane. And, you know, if we want to make it simple here, because sometimes we have differences of understanding in theology, we have differences in religion, a simple way, I would argue, to tell the God of the Bible, the real God. The real God from these false gods, like the ones we see spoken of here, is just simply look at the character and the way of salvation.
51:35 Because you see in all of these false religions that you work your way to being higher. You work your way to being better. And there's different ways. Some of them, it's you pay money. Some of them, it's you write down your good deeds in a book, and when you get to heaven and you got married in the right place, bam, all of a sudden you're exalted up to the next level. And you're a God. There's different ways. You know, some of them, it's you meditate a certain amount of time, you know, but they all come to the same idea that you exalt yourself, that you are growing, and not that you are coming and surrendering to Christ and he's living in you. And so it's like, a lot of times I think we overcomplicate these deceptions. And I know I'm probably just spoiling the entire show, but a lot of times we get overcomplicated and we say, hey, well, what about this little detail here? What about this little? What about this little story over there? But if we just look at the character, right, the character of God and the character of Satan, the one who tries to and creates all these false gods and the ideas of them, you can see there's a distinction here.
52:42 And then as we go forward, I think it's going to be manifest even in like the false circles of Christianity that this growth in ascendancy and this surrender and coming down to serve God as a servant are going to become more. Obvious and opposed and people are going to have to choose. Do I want to surrender self or do I want to go and become a air quotes God here, right? Of my own. 100%. That's it. So I want to try to tie this all together because this is the main clip that we're about to play. This is what led up to this. All this other stuff was, who is this woman? Introduction. And how does she tie into this whole thing? But remember when we talked about John Ramirez, Lou Elizondo, David Grutch, everyone that's and Matthew Pines talking about how there's something coming.
53:42 This really blew my mind. Watch this. Listen to this. It was another organization. It was an organization that was sent to me. Omnicron is that's not your organization. If you could. It's not. It's not my organization. This is her talking today, like just a few days ago. This was a 12, 24 hour long thing they did. I got this from a vetted podcast and he was invited to be on this long thing. He's the V, the red V there. But this is the same lady you saw in the blankets and she's going to say some something pretty wild. About what they told her. Watch this. It is an organization that I am a part of and I haven't been heavily involved in the organization because I've had other things that I have been focused on.
54:41 But my understanding from many conversations in meetings is that there is a possibility that we currently have. A it has been described as a fleet of ships that was identified via remote viewing experience and also identified by a a in-person contact experience with non-human entities that showed that in twenty twenty seven there is. It's to be an arrival of a fleet of non-human intelligence beings, one of which is in one of those those craft is very large and nearly planetary size will have it will affect our solar system.
55:53 It will affect our sun. It will affect our electricity. It will affect our solar system. It will affect our electromagnetic electromagnetism of the earth and our our tides. And these are very old, very old incarnate beings of their their ancient beings. They all house within the inside of this this ship that appears from the outside to be very planetary. It is a living craft and they are not happy with the way that the human experiment has been going. And my position is that they are coming to observe another position that has been posited is that because of how large their craft.
56:56 Is and their fleet is that it has a a drag, it drags other cosmic bodies along with it. So remnants of previous stars and and planets, basically what we would consider to be asteroids, very large, loose objects that are that become kind of trapped in their field. And there's a potential for. There's a potential for. There's a potential for. That for these objects to cause a catastrophic damage to the planet. So we have opportunity by proximity to a to be able to interact with who may actually be. I don't want to see our our makers, but they may have had a hand in conceptualizing. Yeah. Who we are and what we're doing here and why this is necessary. And they may have been involved in the original seeding and the the original structuring of the human experience and setting down the rules of what's been allowed.
58:15 But because they've been gone for so long, you know, things change a little bit. You know, I always wonder. OK, we're going to pause it right there. Wow. OK. Anyway, you catch that she called them the ancients and she catch that these benevolent beings that wouldn't hurt us are somehow dragging along. They can't help. They're so advanced, but they can't help but drag along things that are going to destroy the planet that they're going to. I think it's interesting because we know in Revelation it talks about how it's gonna be traumatic things that happen at the end of time. Things that fall in the city. The cities of the earth. You know, I think you think of fire and brimstone and Sodom and Gomorrah and stuff and these things she can't paint it as if they are doing it themselves.
59:11 She's going to paint it as if, well, they're just they just got caught in the gravitational pull of this giant ship and, you know, it just kind of hits going to hit earth. So maybe we should do something about that, which is interesting to me because Carol Rosen, who is not a Christian. Carol Rosen, she's the one that always says, you know, the big white haired lady that that says her boss used to say, we must stop the weaponization of space because she says there's going to be terrorists, there's going to be asteroids, and then there's going to be an alien threat, according to what her former boss told her, who was part of NASA. Forget his name. Someone in chat is going to tell me. Warner Von Braun. Warner Von Braun. Yeah, there you go. And Warner Von Braun was her boss. And so he always told her that. So I'm not saying that she knows what's happening.
1:00:09 It's just interesting to box up and put in the back of your head and go, could this be some of the terrible things that happen at the end of time? Could this be the spiritualism that we're talking about at the end of time? I don't know. What do you think, Andrew? I've got an alternative theory for you. Yeah, do it. Okay. I think there's bits and pieces of this. In part of this, I can see a case for building an arsenal to fight something in space. Absolutely. Okay. And I think we all know what they're getting at here because we know that the armies of God are going to come and they're going to bring an end to this world. But in that funny side tangent here. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's true.
1:00:59 I think that's true. You know, with the asteroids, you know, we have some verses in the Bible that speak of judgments on the earth in the last days, not connected to the second coming, right? We have these trumpet judgments and, you know, some of them we can see some fulfillments in history, but I think not all of them. And I think when I read the Bible and when I see what's in it and I see some of the other people that are out there that have kind of studied the end times. some of them that received visions like for instance we have one i know you and i agree with brad but the visions of sister white you know we i see a connection here of judgments on the earth you know especially you go to revelation 9 and 18 it says by these three was the third part of men killed by the fire by the smoke and by the brimstone um so i see there's a potential here that maybe satan wants to try and explain away the judgments of god as a coincidence that men would not turn in repentance because you go down a few lines here in revelation 9 and it says in relation 921 this is why i'm sure this is talking before the second coming these judgments it says neither repented they of their murders nor of their sorceries nor of their fornications nor of their thefts so this is referring to the judgment of god this is referring to a time of judgment before probation closes on the earth which we see in revelation 15 and parts of it in 16 and parts of it when jesus is speaking of the sheep and the goats in matthew 25 right so we have a time of decision coming up and before that time i if i read my bible right and i believe i do there will be judgments coming on the earth to warn the inhabitants of the earth that they need to turn and here's a convenient theory to explain away the judgments of god as well they were just caught in the tale of these these aliens and so now people you know they want to turn anything they can to bring people's eyes away from christ whether it's you can become christ whether it's well the aliens said christ wasn't really real as disciples were lying and what they put in the books you know whatever kind of deceptions they can throw out here their idea is to get your mind off of christ and distract you from making the all-important and the all-important and the all-important and the all-important and all-important decision to turn to jesus but anyways let's let's hear this last one no that's that's the clip from uh for her i mean she's saying that all this thing i'm going to go into joe rogan and the discussion with peter thiel uh next but um that's what she's saying these things are gonna uh they're gonna say things are gonna happen in 2027 now how this comes together with 2025 and all this stuff i don't know i i don't know if 2025 was what he what they told allister bailey or whoever it was back then and they've had to bump it up a little bit because they they can't keep their timeline straight or or if there's going to be two events that are happening we know that it talks a lot about 2025 i've heard things about 2026 from blood so and we've heard things about 2027 these are the big big years for some reason and again nothing's confirmed because this is finite beings smarter than humanity but finite fallen beings that are trying to play god so it's really interesting to kind of follow this and go we've got a few years of very interesting stuff coming up and that's why this channel is here um unless you have something else to say uh andrew i'm gonna jump right into joe rogan hey i just had one thought here and that was on these dates right they throw these dates out but we know that god doesn't want us to look for the end times based on dates he wants us to look based on events you know he says no man knows the day nor the hour but he also says you brethren are not in darkness that that day should come upon you unaware so how are we supposed to know how
1:05:20 do we tell the truth here because again the devil's not going to come across the truth here he's going to bring a deception and i think these dates on every side they're used are just a fancy distraction and a deception because jesus says you know look at the events you know you see thick leaves and you think okay spring and summer is coming in the same way look at the events and see how they go so i don't think we're going to have an actual timeline at least according to what i read in the bible and i don't think that satan is going to be able to overrun god and make these things happen but he served surely wants people to be so obsessed in this so interested in this that again as i was saying earlier they take their eyes off christ they look into these things oh that's fascinating and you know they're you know this might seem unpopular there's even people that are christians that get caught up in a date setting i mean we had like harold was it harold camping like 10 years ago he went and set a date for the second coming or the rapture whatever he called it and it deceived millions and then they were let down so this is a tactic that isn't just used in like the ufo arena but i think it's interesting that it's a favorite tactic but anyways that's all i gotta say on that you know let's go to tucker yeah absolutely very interesting well joe rogan i see i hear an echo in my ear so i'm stuttering already joe rogan and peter thiel thiel i hope i'm saying that right discuss aliens versus angels so peter thiel is a commentator and he's a commentator and he's a commentator and he's a co-founder of paypal he made the first outside investment in facebook and the author of the number one new york times bestseller zero to one and so joe rogan had him on but they had some interesting conversations about whether or not these things are spiritual entities or not because joe rogan likes talking about aliens it's in his logo and so we cover that just to understand what in the world is being broadcasted out there to the public because joe rogan is the biggest internet and a lot of people aren't getting their news from the news anymore they don't trust the news they're going to podcasters and stuff so let's see exactly what he has to say about this let's get started you know i always wonder and again this is a little bit too simplistic an argument but uh i always wonder that i'm about to give but what what the alien civilization can be like and if you have faster than light travel if you have warp drive which is probably what you really need to cover interstellar distances um you know what that means for military technology is that you can send weapons at warp speed and they will hit you before you see them coming and there is no defense against a warp speed weapon um and you could sort of take over the whole universe it it tells us that uh i think that if you have if you have a faster than light travel there's something um really crazy that has to be true on a cultural political social level and there may be other solutions but i'll give you my two um one of one of them is that um you need complete totalitarian controls and it is like it is the people the individualism they might be might not be perfect they might be demons doesn't matter but you have you have a demonic totalitarian control of your society where it's like you have you have like parapsychological mind meld with everybody and no one can act independently of anybody else no one can ever launch a warp drive weapon and everybody who has that ability isn't like a mind meld link with everybody else or somebody else or somebody else or somebody else or somebody else or somebody else or somebody else would be similar to you won't be able to be like a gentle person to be able to something, something like that. You can't have libertarian individualistic free agency.
1:09:31 And then I think the other, the other version socially and culturally is they have to be like perfectly altruistic, non self-interest. They have to be angels. And so the Pazolka literal thing I'd come to is the aliens. It's not that they might be demons or angels. They must be demons or angels if you have faster than light travel. And both of those seem pretty crazy to me. So we're going to pause it right there. And we definitely got some more to talk about with Joe Rogan and stuff. But before we get into it, I hope you took notes because I have a couple for myself as well. Like I've said in the beginning of the program, we cover this, everyone out there that's listening right now, we cover this stuff so that we can be abreast of what's going on. And I think that's a really important thing. And I think that's a really important thing. And I think that's a really important thing. And I think that's a really happening in our world. All this stuff that I cover is usually current, even up to the last few weeks that we want to know exactly what's happening and how this stuff is coming to your current normal life in a very strange way. And if that's something that you agree we should reveal through the lens of the Bible, current events, some even call it present truth, we have a Patreon that I hope that you would join, because we have lots more information on there. In fact, we have a private community that both of us are a part of. And you can join that too at patreon.com slash strange normal. You can join that anytime. So what he said here was very, very interesting. He said, if you have faster than light travel, then you must need a full control of society.
1:11:17 You must have altruistic showing a disinterest in society. Self, which is what altruistic means. Concern for well-being of others. Unselfish. Is that true? I think there's a bit of individuality in God's dealings. Each one of his beings have its own ability to decide for themselves. He doesn't have full control of everybody. That's why we're in this mess. But there is a court, and there is a case, and both sides are very, very committed to submitting their answer. One is already lost. So what do you think, Andrew, before I continue with that? I need just one more second. I know, you got so much to write down. There was a lot in that clip. So I want to start out this interesting note here. So he says they might be demons.
1:12:27 And he just says that so nonchalantly. Oh, well. But then he, you know, he kind of lays out the demons would do it. There'd be no freedom of choice. So, okay. I got to give him one little bit of credit, because that is actually something that was against the way God works. We know God created us with free choice. We know that God respects our free choice. So I hate to say it, but I got to give him that brownie point. He's a correctly identifying demon. But I think it's a good point. It's interesting. Could you twist that? You know, he says that they wouldn't because their minds would be worked together in such a way that they'd be of like one purpose. You don't have to have no free choice to be of one purpose. But he kind of creates this distinction. So in my mind, it's almost like he's labeling out. Let me get you a Bible verse here real quick. Yeah, yeah. He's going into, well, he's portraying this through an idea. Well, it was really confusing to me, too, because he was like, well, they either got to be altruistic aliens, I mean, altruistic angels or demons. Well, demons aren't altruistic.
1:13:46 I have a theory for you. Okay. So Galatians 3.28, there is neither Jew nor Greek. There's neither bond nor free. There's neither male nor female. For here, all one in Christ Jesus. So I honestly see him building out this image that if you are one of purpose, you must have no self. Let me get back my notes here. You must have no freedom of choice, and therefore you are under the control of demons. So I see a Gnostic image of God being painted here, and then he lays out these other guys are the altruistic ones, the angels. And I see Satan trying to set up a little bad cop, good cop here, and he's putting God as the bad cop, and he's going to lie and say that, yeah, he's going to say that the controlling one whose people are one of one accord, clearly, he's the bad guy, and we're showing up, we're the altruistic good guy. Why won't you listen to us? You know, he's setting up this artificial distinction, and I don't think it's him, obviously. I think that's coming from, you know, the as it says in Romans, to whom you yield yourself servants to obey, his servants you are whom you obey. So clearly, you know, it's not his word. It's the one speaking through him. But this is the lies being set up to deceive people, malign God, and create a, we're the heroes here. Listen to us, because those are the bad aliens. We're the good ones. And putting it on God explicitly. I think you said it. You said it best. Yeah. Anything else to say about that? Because that's pretty much what I want to say, too. Go. No, you took the words out of my mouth. That's fantastic. And I think it's, like I said, altruistic, you can, you know, having, showing no disinterest, showing a disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others. That's, that's God. But you can't have that in the demon realm. And you're right. They're setting up this idea that God is, you know, is this control freak.
1:16:00 And that's exactly what Satan wants everyone to believe. And so he goes into less... Obviously, Joe Rogan doesn't believe this. He doesn't believe anything about God. And so he's going to use a different worldview and start arguing with him a little bit. So let's see what he has to say. Watch this. Well, they're definitely pretty crazy, but so are human beings. Well, they're crazy in a very different way. Yeah, but not crazy in a different way when you compare us to a mouse. Compare us to a mouse and what we're capable of and then from us to them. Not much of a leap. And here's my question about it all. But it is a very big leap on a... If we say that something like evolution says that there's no such thing as a purely altruistic being. Right. If you were purely altruistic, if you only cared about other people, you don't survive.
1:16:51 Well, why would you necessarily think that they'd think that? Because... Because then... Beings that are not perfectly altruistic are somewhat dangerous. Let me... And then the danger level gets correlated to the level of technology. And if you have faster than light travel, it is infinitely dangerous. I got to give them something here. What do you think about that? Because it's bending my mind a little bit. I want to play that clip one more time. It's only a minute. Here's my theory. I think that what human beings are, the fatal flaw that we have, is that we're still...
1:17:44 Well, they're definitely pretty crazy, but so are human beings. Well, they're crazy in a very different way. Yeah, but not crazy in a different way when you compare us to a mouse. Compare us to a mouse and what we're capable of, and then from us to them. Not much of a leap. And here's my question about it all. But it is a very big leap on a... If we say that something like evolution, says that there's no such thing as a purely altruistic being. Right. If you were purely altruistic, if you only cared about other people, you don't survive. Well, why would you necessarily think that they'd think that? Because then beings that are not perfectly altruistic are somewhat dangerous. Let me... And then the danger level gets correlated to the level of technology.
1:18:36 And if you have faster than light travel, it is infinitely dangerous. I mean, I got to give that to them. I mean, if you're not perfectly altruistic, which is selfless, then you're looking to yourself for, you know, you're in survival mode, basically. I will do it myself. I will survive myself. I need to feed myself. But God says, you know, if you reach out and do stuff for others, that's how the universe works. That's how the universe works. That's how the universe works. You have all these examples in the Bible. Not in the Bible, even. All over the Bible. But in nature of how everything works together. And the only reason it works together is because it's helping other things. Oxygen comes from plants. We breathe in oxygen, put out carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide provides the plants with something to breathe.
1:19:33 Or, you know, even down to what the plants eat in the soil. It's all a big deal. It's a big cycle. Rain cycles up in the air. It comes back down. It's a precipitation, evaporation, condensation. And so I do think that if something is selfish, then we have an inherent danger in that. And so I do believe what he's saying there. But what do you think? You know, what's interesting in his mind game is that he kind of gives this, he gives a, a suggestion of doubt to evolution in his mind game in regards to the aliens. You know, he does. Which is interesting to me because, I mean, if you go through like the testimony of Roger Morneau, and you look at the effect the evolution teaching has had on society, it's always been one to undermine the Bible and undermine faith in God and a higher power.
1:20:40 But, you know, it makes me wonder if there isn't a goal of pulling away that doubt after it's been built up so that people are ready to accept the new narrative when it comes because they've been so conditioned their whole lives, especially and specifically through the teaching of evolution, that such a supernatural world is impossible and how that might be preparing people. Because, you know, we see that, the demonic realms and a lot of the occultists, they throw their weight behind evolution historically as something they get behind to slam God into the dust and prove he doesn't exist. And then now just by sleight of hand, casually, they're like, well, we won't really think about that. It doesn't fit with what we're actually seeing. And so clearly it's, it's almost like evolution's brought along to serve a purpose and it's almost done with its purpose to move on. Like, yeah, they still maintain it, because I'm sure in the final version of their narrative, they'd be like, yes, we brought you here and we seeded you to over here, but it still changes the idea from, well, you went from this tat, from this little, you know, protein to man, you know, it changes the way we've been taught for a hundred and almost 150 years of how we came along.
1:22:06 The lie, obviously. But anyways, let's keep going with this, because I'm curious the rest of what he has to say. Yeah, Joe Rogan is going to go off on this in a second, because he believes a whole different idea. But what I think is very interesting, exactly what you were saying, is that this whole thing, the whole evolution thing is going out the window, sort of. It's changing. And it has to, because, well, we see that in prophecy, that this whole thing has to change and everyone has to believe something. And so it's not just a belief in evolution, as it is also a belief in evolution, as it is also a belief in the world of faith, but it's more of a something created us. And the narrative here with this alien narrative is that something came and seeded us and is monitoring how we are growing. This goop they poured into the water or something, according to that narrative.
1:23:03 But anyway, listen to this next clip. Here's my theory. I think that what humans, human beings are, the fatal flaw that we have is that we're still animals and that we still have all these biological limitations and needs. This is what leads to violence. This is what leads to jealousy, imitation. This is what leads to war. This leads to all these things. As AI becomes more and more powerful, we will integrate. Once we integrate with AI, if we do it now and then we look at a thousand, we scale it up exponentially a thousand years from now, or whatever it's going to be, we will have no need for any of these biological features that have motivated us to get to the point we're creating AI. All the things that are wrong in society, whether it's inequity, theft, violence, pollution, all these things are essentially poor allocation of resources combined with human instincts that are ancient.
1:24:06 We have ancient tribal primate instincts, and all of these things lead us to believe that this is the only way to achieve dominance and control, allocation of resources, the creation of technology. New technology eventually reaches a point where it becomes far more intelligent than us, and we have two choices. Either we integrate or it becomes independent and it has no need for us anymore, and then that becomes a superior life form in the universe. And what does he mean by that? He means God. And so he's taken it from an evolutionary standpoint and pushed it into AI and been like, look, the whole point of this is so that we can evolve. And so once we've evolved into this AI-type thing, it's just blown my mind. We have this transhumanism, I forget what you call that, where you have your body with the AI machine thing.
1:25:09 What? What brings to mind is, what I think about when I think about this is how the amalgamation of man and beast was before the flood. And now, right now we have human beings trying to amalgamate ourselves with machines. We are pretty close to the end, especially if we're going to call this machine God. I digress. What do you think? I've got a couple interesting observations, and the one is, he equates not being flesh and blood as growth. Well, that's an attack on God, because it says, in the image of God created he them. So when we're made in the image of God, he wants to eliminate, one, the image of God from people, right? Two, it says we become our own gods, right?
1:26:03 We become immortal, we live forever, no longer in need of these functions, too. So not only is it, hey, let's not be in the image of God, let's become our own God. And then interestingly enough, in the process of becoming immortal, he directly states and implies that we would grow our own morals by the work of building these technologies. So we're growing, we're becoming, I'm going to use a religious term here, and then I'm going to use a strict literal term, but we're becoming righteous by works. We're becoming morally better by our own efforts, and so that begs the question, by what standard are we going to judge our moral improvement? How would we judge that we are actually getting morally better? Because clearly, these guys don't believe in the Ten Commandments. So it's a fascinating idea that Joe Rogan's putting forth here, or I think, was it Joe Rogan?
1:27:04 Yeah. Of how we would better ourselves, righteous-wise, become our own gods, and deface the image of God from man. Mm. Mm, mm, mm, mm. Yeah. I think it's very interesting, because all this stuff, it's going to come down to worship. What are you worshiping? Are you worshiping man? Are you worshiping what man has done? Are you worshiping creation? Are you worshiping the created? Like beings from other worlds? Or are you worshiping God? I think that's why the first angel's message is, fear God and give glory to him. And so, and worship him. And that's essentially what the saints, the Bible says, the saints that go to heaven, there's two main characteristics of them, is that they obey God, keep his commandments, and they also, through the testimony of their own, overcome, not that it's their own, but that it's God giving it to them.
1:28:13 Fascinating. Any other thoughts? Closing thoughts? Worship him who made. Well, what was the last thing God created? Man. So again, this idea that our flesh and blood human bodies are not good enough. And why are they not good enough? Well, he kind of dances around the point, but he thinks we need to get better morally. So he has the peace that sin, Mm-hmm. is causing the degeneration. But rather than looking to God, hey, let's go make ourselves immortal so we don't need him. And then we'll sort out, at that time, by our own power, the moral problems we have. You know, these false ways of salvation. I see it. Yeah, yeah, that's 100%.
1:29:04 You wanna close us out with prayer? Sure, Brad. All right. Father in heaven, thank you for showing us, that you are not caught off guard by these lies, that you, you have the answer to unveil these deceptions. And that you're still working to reach all of them. You know, they're seeds of truth, I see. Even in what is said by the interviewer with Roken. They see, they see bits and pieces of your character and they misattribute it. But you are able to open their eyes as you're able to open our eyes. And help us to look to you, and to God, and to God, and to God, and to God, and to God, and to God. And look to you, and look in your word and find you. And not to fall for these deception. And Lord, open their eyes. Remove the blinders from their eyes. That they would see and hear and know you.
1:29:59 You know, you're able to save anyone that turns to you. It says everyone that calls on the name of Jesus will be saved. And I mean, you caught Saul on the road to Damascus. You can reach these men and women. And I ask you to do that. And I thank you that no matter what happens, I know you are going to reach them as best you can. And with God, all things are possible in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much. And let me close this out real quick. Stick around. Father, I was going to pray again. Guys, this has been another Strange Normal. And if you think this is important, if you think it is important to look through the Bible and understand what's going on here, then I think that you want to do this 24-7 too. Go to my Patreon and join us on our Discord server.
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