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Keep listening. As I mentioned earlier, we're only a month before higher-ups accepted these reports with eager interest. Suddenly, they asked, why are we doing this? Jay and I both sensed a vibe that Jim did not. He was…
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His career was on the line. I remember a meeting in fall of 2009 that Jay and I attended with Jim, in which we openly talked about the wisdom of Jim dropping the investigations OSAP had gotten involved with that many con…
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Jay and I admired him for that. I asked Jim if he wanted me to attend the meeting with Deputy Secretary Lynn as a show of solidarity. I figured he could use a human shield. Jim told me, it would be best if he went alone.
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Hmm. And I was also trying to figure out who Jim Lukaski was, what he did, and Jay, I'm not exactly sure who he was, William J. Lynn, Department Secretary of Defense, he mentions too. There's a couple of people that coul…