22:40
It was very, very, well, yeah, so I was in, uh, so while I was in Hollywood, we were, I was working on a TV show, uh, this is much after 13, well after 13 years, no, this is in my thirties and stuff. And I, I was in Holl…
30:08
And I'm like, no, no, it happened. I remember I was there. So you know, years later, my memory was jogged by finding that book in that, in that place we were shooting that show on a show in, and I, I just started to thin…
41:48
I invested in laser projectors and professional laser control, like Pangolin software, laser designer software, and start experimenting with that and working in completely dark black spaces with cameras. Yeah. Shooting l…
46:33
I just felt like, and then I started looking and it's like, it's looking at me. Why is that helicopter looking at me? Maybe a little paranoid. I don't know. But I was like, why is that helicopter looking at me? And I jus…